Been using the Caron R5 for a couple of years now and I've not come across a better explanation of focus settings for the camera yet.. Thanks so much for the video, extremely helpfull!
Another RUclipsr said if you're testing what's the best AF on R5 you must hit record. If record is not enable the AF is set at factory setting no matter the setting you are adjusting if only going by the view finder.
Thanks for the test! My biggest challenge was getting my R6 to get the objekttracking to really stick to the object I actually want to have in focus when shooting video. It took me some tries and I found that I have to put the two servo settings to -3(!). This was quite a challenge, since I am filming myself drumming with my R6 sitting on a slider, while the angle is sideways. And like you said, tracking children is quite a challenge! I often try to film my 2+4y old, and they really are making it hard to keep them in focus. I consider this a good training :)
Having kids in the house definitely means you get the chance to push that AF to the max, that's for sure! I really liked how the AF would stick at -3, too. Good luck getting your shots out there, and thanks so much for the comment!
This is SO helpful! I love the notes that you've included right on the screen and the live examples of what the adjustments do! Thanks for getting straight to the point and sharing tangible notes for where to jump to! SO helpful!
Thanks so much! Glad it could help. I know these questions were itching in my head, til I finally set down to test them all out. I appreciate the comment and I hope you have a great day!
@@DeafDirector I know these things take time but I'd love to see more of your tips and tricks with the R6 if you're up for it! I hit that subscribe button and can't wait to follow along.
Thanks forthe effort, been using R6 for a little while now, didn't had the time to do all this work. Going to try settings a people / object settings on C1 and C2 for my talking heads aroll and my products brolls! Then again, thanks! 🤘
Really helpful - thank you! I have recently added a Canon camera to the armoury for its autofocus capability, but have very much fallen foul of it on a couple of occasions so far... This was really helpful in understanding what I was trying to set!
This is fantastic. Thank you so much. Just goes to show that all these tweaks make a massive difference and it's all about testing and getting to know your kit. Thanks again for the time, effort and the great explanation to each of the options.
Thank you for your effort. I am a canon R6 user and from my experience I can tell you that canon AF is unreliable. If i have a family gathering and shoot with tested settings I still find later many signs of hunting in the footage in post. I bought a Sony a7siii and the AF on that thing is perfect. I am disappointed in many RUclipsrs arguing how good canon AF is compared to Sony. No comparison…. Sorry. Canon might be good as a stills camera but so far I don’t like it for video. My opinion and everyone can disagree.
Hey Sammy, I have gotten a chance to see the two systems side by side, and while I think you can tweak the Canon to get really good results, I would say that, out of the box, the Sony system is terrific. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
I was nicely surprise once I started playing with it to see the difference that it made. These test definitely showed me there is no "one size fits all," setting when it comes to AF. Thanks for the comment!
You are definitely my one and only source to learn about how to use my Canon R5. Fantastic video as always. I have a question about recording RAW. The R5 allows you to record RAW and not to assign any Log. What's better pure RAW or RAW assigning Log 2 or Log 3. I am obviously new to video and don't understand this that might seem silly to most people. My second question is a request. Can you make a video of how to record a soccer game with the R5? I was trying to record my daughter and I was not able to keep up to change quickly when the ball changed from one player to the next. Thank you very much in advance
Only annoying part is the fact that u can hear the lens. Even with a Rode mic attached to the R5 u still hear the screaching from the lens focusing. Curious to know if the Sony cameras have this problem
Thank you! This is great! I am looking for a camera for product videos, but with demonstrations where the focus needs to stay on the product while I demonstrate how to use. Think this will work? Especially if I am moving the subject around?
Very helpful video. That said, it raises one question in regard to the Movie Servo AF tracking sensitivity setting when shooting with the single point focus method. The only focus method that involves tracking is Face / Tracking. Therefore I wonder if that setting even makes a difference with the single point focus method. It didn't seem to in your test. The term "tracking" is confusing because before a camera could track a face or object around a frame, people thought of continuous AF as focus tracking. But that's not what it means anymore in modern Canon bodies. Tracking only refers to the movement of an active AF point around the screen. Servo AF-adjusting focus continuously under a particular, stationary AF point-is not tracking. This is the only thing happening with most of the other focus methods. (Zone focus will track eyes and faces within that zone so it is kind of a hybrid.)
What are your suggestions for fast action sports? I tried videoing my son's flagfootball game today and it was a struggle to keep eye focus attached to the player that was my subject. Ended using Horizontal Zone focus.
Hi! Can you change the speed of focus shift between a subject in front and the in the back and viceversa? Mine is doing a very no natural fast movement and want to make it look more like a normal soft focus puller….thanks!!!!
good video - thanks - shooting at 1.8 gives you a very narrow depth of field - I would shoot 4 or 5.6 to give added focus depth to cover whatever the locked auto focus misses - you can crank the ISO on the R5 and R6 and still not get much noise - you can blur the back with ND filters
Thanks for the video! Iv been shooting (photo) with canon for 15 years but I actualy never tried the video functions. But now when I bought the R5 I thought I would give it a try. However one of my main intrest in shooting is Motocross / Dirtbikes. So I guess still would use AF tracking but use vehicle as subject. Anything els you suggest as setting wise? //Mikael
I can't thank you enough for your very informative videos. So helpful! For the second time I will be using my R5 on a shoot next week as a B-cam to my C70 for interviews and for B-roll. Some of the B-roll will again be a large conference table with a number of people sitting around it. The last time it worked out well for what I needed and I don't remember my autofocus settings. I was wondering if you have any suggestions for a situation where I might be panning across a few faces at the table. Any experience with autofocus on the R5 when you want to smoothly switch between people like that? Thanks again! Love your channel.
Need help. What kind of focus point should I use for video work when there are multiple people in the shot? Let's say I am conducting an interview of two people who are sitting in different positions. Eye autofocus focuses on one person's eye.
FYI you're doing your focus tracking wrong. When you put the R5 into tracking mode you have to tap the back of the screen to tell it what to track. You weren't doing that and that's why you lost focus on the cup and the kid. You'll know it's tracking the object you selected when you see the double white lined box around the subject being tracked. For example you have to put the R5 in tracking mode, make sure to disable eye tracking, than tap on the cup on the back LCD screen and the R5 will have no trouble tracking the cup. :)
This is a great point. When I did these tests I was really testing out the R5's AI and internal tracking capacities in camera, but I definitely use the back screen touch selection method when I am out shooting in the field. Thanks for posting this tip for others to see. Have a great day!
@@DeafDirector thanks for your video. What do you do when out in the field with an external monitor? I guess you have to rely on the AI to get it right because you lose the touch screen, right?
Hey Bryan, did you mention which lens you were using in this test? It's my understanding that the Canon USM lenses tend to autofocus overly quickly in video scenarios and the STMs tend to be more gradual and less jerky.
Hey Britni, I used the Canon 16-35/2.8L III lens for these tests. I found that I was able to get a pretty natural shift between points if I lowered the speed. I haven't gotten the chance to test between the USM and STM, but that would be interesting to see the differences.Thanks for the comment!
Hey Bryan, thank you so much for this amazing Video. It helped a lot to set up my Canon R6. I came across an issue and struggle a lot and I hope you have an answer for it :) I use for filming an external Monitor and when I use the Face or Eye Tracking Autofocus while Recording a few (3-5 People) sometimes it happens that the two Arrows appear and disappear randomly and sometimes it happens (while people are dancing or quickly got out of the frame and come back again) that the Focus loses the Object and I cannot put the focus back and need to stop the Recording. Can I re-arrange the Focus with an external Monitor while recording? Thanks in Advance!
Unfortunately the camera does not transfer AF info via the HDMI cable so you cannot use an external monitor for focus aides. Thanks so much for the comment and have a great day!
Great video - one question left : on my r6 and its 35 mm lense the autofocus seems to be soooooooo slow - like unusable slow - is there anything that I can do?
Excellent video, I wonder if you can tell me what setting is making the camera move. I have my camera set up with a tripod for an interview setting, and sometimes when it’s tracking it seems that the camera moves a little bit and seems that I was moving the camera but I’m not I am sure that the same but I can’t find what it is.
@@DeafDirector Thanks for the reply, this is what I mean, you can see at the beginning of the video how it seems as if I was moving the camera, but its on tripod. ruclips.net/video/mylxdKfqr9k/видео.html
@@mnorena Possibly the in-body stabilization is moving your sensor for some reason. Try turning it off when it's on a tripod and see if you notice a difference. Also, it could be caused by just vibrations in the room -- if the floor is wooden for example, and people are walking around on the set.
You need to enable servo in the AF setting then you can enable and disable on the left bottom corner while in video. You can also make a custom button to do that. I mapped the one next to the lens to do just that. Good luck and let me know if you need more help.
So sorry about that. I have total high range deafness so I can not hear that. I have thrown out the mic that caused the issue and the section is captioned if you need to mute it. Have a great day!
Look - your good - you know what your doing - but for people learning the camera you move through your settings so fast its annoying. If your doing a training video slow the hell down. If one of my video editors when this fast in one of our training videos I would give them a D- grade - especially when they have the knowledge (like you have) to get an "A"
Been using the Caron R5 for a couple of years now and I've not come across a better explanation of focus settings for the camera yet.. Thanks so much for the video, extremely helpfull!
I agree with below. By far the best explanation/demonstration that I have seen. Thank you!
as a rookie photographer can't thank you enough . very useful for Me.
Another RUclipsr said if you're testing what's the best AF on R5 you must hit record. If record is not enable the AF is set at factory setting no matter the setting you are adjusting if only going by the view finder.
Thanks for the test! My biggest challenge was getting my R6 to get the objekttracking to really stick to the object I actually want to have in focus when shooting video. It took me some tries and I found that I have to put the two servo settings to -3(!). This was quite a challenge, since I am filming myself drumming with my R6 sitting on a slider, while the angle is sideways. And like you said, tracking children is quite a challenge! I often try to film my 2+4y old, and they really are making it hard to keep them in focus. I consider this a good training :)
Having kids in the house definitely means you get the chance to push that AF to the max, that's for sure! I really liked how the AF would stick at -3, too. Good luck getting your shots out there, and thanks so much for the comment!
This is SO helpful! I love the notes that you've included right on the screen and the live examples of what the adjustments do! Thanks for getting straight to the point and sharing tangible notes for where to jump to! SO helpful!
Thanks so much! Glad it could help. I know these questions were itching in my head, til I finally set down to test them all out. I appreciate the comment and I hope you have a great day!
@@DeafDirector I know these things take time but I'd love to see more of your tips and tricks with the R6 if you're up for it! I hit that subscribe button and can't wait to follow along.
@@frameoflifeproject I'll definitely keep trying to have more coming along!
Thank you for taking the time to make this. The demonstration along with the setting changes was so helpful.
Thanks forthe effort, been using R6 for a little while now, didn't had the time to do all this work. Going to try settings a people / object settings on C1 and C2 for my talking heads aroll and my products brolls! Then again, thanks! 🤘
Awesome test. I didn’t even realize any of this but man you did a perfect job explaining. Thank you!
Really helpful - thank you! I have recently added a Canon camera to the armoury for its autofocus capability, but have very much fallen foul of it on a couple of occasions so far... This was really helpful in understanding what I was trying to set!
This is fantastic. Thank you so much. Just goes to show that all these tweaks make a massive difference and it's all about testing and getting to know your kit. Thanks again for the time, effort and the great explanation to each of the options.
Excellent video!!
Thank you for your effort. I am a canon R6 user and from my experience I can tell you that canon AF is unreliable. If i have a family gathering and shoot with tested settings I still find later many signs of hunting in the footage in post. I bought a Sony a7siii and the AF on that thing is perfect. I am disappointed in many RUclipsrs arguing how good canon AF is compared to Sony. No comparison…. Sorry. Canon might be good as a stills camera but so far I don’t like it for video. My opinion and everyone can disagree.
Hey Sammy, I have gotten a chance to see the two systems side by side, and while I think you can tweak the Canon to get really good results, I would say that, out of the box, the Sony system is terrific. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
Thanks, man! A great reminder of the camera capability
I hadn't adjusted my "locked on" settings with this camera. Thanks for reminding me it was there!
I was nicely surprise once I started playing with it to see the difference that it made. These test definitely showed me there is no "one size fits all," setting when it comes to AF. Thanks for the comment!
Great video! I was looking for this type of video all over RUclips. Thank you!
You are definitely my one and only source to learn about how to use my Canon R5. Fantastic video as always.
I have a question about recording RAW. The R5 allows you to record RAW and not to assign any Log. What's better pure RAW or RAW assigning Log 2 or Log 3. I am obviously new to video and don't understand this that might seem silly to most people.
My second question is a request. Can you make a video of how to record a soccer game with the R5? I was trying to record my daughter and I was not able to keep up to change quickly when the ball changed from one player to the next. Thank you very much in advance
That was great info!! Thanks for that!
Form Tracking at -3 (locked on) and Switch Sensitivity at 0 works best for the stuff i create.
Only annoying part is the fact that u can hear the lens. Even with a Rode mic attached to the R5 u still hear the screaching from the lens focusing. Curious to know if the Sony cameras have this problem
It’s usually more of a lens issue than it is a camera , sigma lenses make horrible autofocus noises as do cheap lenses
Thank you so much! Really helpful!
Thank you very much for this video. There is a lot of great content here.
Lots of usable information I. This video Thank you so much.
Very good examples and settings comparison. Your video helped me a lot to re think the AF logic of my R6.
Thanks a lot and regards from Buenos Aires
Thanks so much! Great to hear from Buenos Aires
Thank you! This is great! I am looking for a camera for product videos, but with demonstrations where the focus needs to stay on the product while I demonstrate how to use. Think this will work? Especially if I am moving the subject around?
Man you are good! Thank you so much‼️🔥
How to get a like in the first few seconds; Adorable! Oh yea thanks for the rest of the video too! Lol
Great video, thank you for shareing.
Very helpful video. That said, it raises one question in regard to the Movie Servo AF tracking sensitivity setting when shooting with the single point focus method. The only focus method that involves tracking is Face / Tracking. Therefore I wonder if that setting even makes a difference with the single point focus method. It didn't seem to in your test. The term "tracking" is confusing because before a camera could track a face or object around a frame, people thought of continuous AF as focus tracking. But that's not what it means anymore in modern Canon bodies. Tracking only refers to the movement of an active AF point around the screen. Servo AF-adjusting focus continuously under a particular, stationary AF point-is not tracking. This is the only thing happening with most of the other focus methods. (Zone focus will track eyes and faces within that zone so it is kind of a hybrid.)
Can you tell what you set " Movie servo AF speed !?
It looks like there is a "-" in the menu for Movie Servo AF speed which means he left it at default. If he had changed anything there would be an "*".
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What are your suggestions for fast action sports? I tried videoing my son's flagfootball game today and it was a struggle to keep eye focus attached to the player that was my subject. Ended using Horizontal Zone focus.
Thanks! This helps a lot!
Nobody shows this kind of test wirh multuliple faces on the screen. its most challenging scenario
Hi! Can you change the speed of focus shift between a subject in front and the in the back and viceversa? Mine is doing a very no natural fast movement and want to make it look more like a normal soft focus puller….thanks!!!!
Awesome video thank you for this. I have a question can this be applied to photography?
Thank-you for this! 🙏
My pleasure. I hope it helps you out there shooting!
good video - thanks - shooting at 1.8 gives you a very narrow depth of field - I would shoot 4 or 5.6 to give added focus depth to cover whatever the locked auto focus misses - you can crank the ISO on the R5 and R6 and still not get much noise - you can blur the back with ND filters
Thanks for the video! Iv been shooting (photo) with canon for 15 years but I actualy never tried the video functions. But now when I bought the R5 I thought I would give it a try. However one of my main intrest in shooting is Motocross / Dirtbikes. So I guess still would use AF tracking but use vehicle as subject. Anything els you suggest as setting wise? //Mikael
Did you ever change the "Movie Servo AF speed" away from 0 (default)? If so, what did you change it to for each?
It looks like there is a "-" in the menu for Movie Servo AF speed which means he left it at default. If he had changed anything there would be an "*".
I can't thank you enough for your very informative videos. So helpful! For the second time I will be using my R5 on a shoot next week as a B-cam to my C70 for interviews and for B-roll. Some of the B-roll will again be a large conference table with a number of people sitting around it. The last time it worked out well for what I needed and I don't remember my autofocus settings. I was wondering if you have any suggestions for a situation where I might be panning across a few faces at the table. Any experience with autofocus on the R5 when you want to smoothly switch between people like that? Thanks again! Love your channel.
I would like to know too
Very helpful
Need help. What kind of focus point should I use for video work when there are multiple people in the shot? Let's say I am conducting an interview of two people who are sitting in different positions. Eye autofocus focuses on one person's eye.
FYI you're doing your focus tracking wrong. When you put the R5 into tracking mode you have to tap the back of the screen to tell it what to track. You weren't doing that and that's why you lost focus on the cup and the kid. You'll know it's tracking the object you selected when you see the double white lined box around the subject being tracked. For example you have to put the R5 in tracking mode, make sure to disable eye tracking, than tap on the cup on the back LCD screen and the R5 will have no trouble tracking the cup. :)
This is a great point. When I did these tests I was really testing out the R5's AI and internal tracking capacities in camera, but I definitely use the back screen touch selection method when I am out shooting in the field. Thanks for posting this tip for others to see. Have a great day!
@@DeafDirector thanks for your video. What do you do when out in the field with an external monitor? I guess you have to rely on the AI to get it right because you lose the touch screen, right?
Hey Bryan, did you mention which lens you were using in this test? It's my understanding that the Canon USM lenses tend to autofocus overly quickly in video scenarios and the STMs tend to be more gradual and less jerky.
Hey Britni, I used the Canon 16-35/2.8L III lens for these tests. I found that I was able to get a pretty natural shift between points if I lowered the speed. I haven't gotten the chance to test between the USM and STM, but that would be interesting to see the differences.Thanks for the comment!
Thank you! How can I witch to other face lock when there are more people in the shot?
Hey Bryan, thank you so much for this amazing Video. It helped a lot to set up my Canon R6. I came across an issue and struggle a lot and I hope you have an answer for it :) I use for filming an external Monitor and when I use the Face or Eye Tracking Autofocus while Recording a few (3-5 People) sometimes it happens that the two Arrows appear and disappear randomly and sometimes it happens (while people are dancing or quickly got out of the frame and come back again) that the Focus loses the Object and I cannot put the focus back and need to stop the Recording. Can I re-arrange the Focus with an external Monitor while recording? Thanks in Advance!
Unfortunately the camera does not transfer AF info via the HDMI cable so you cannot use an external monitor for focus aides. Thanks so much for the comment and have a great day!
Great video - one question left : on my r6 and its 35 mm lense the autofocus seems to be soooooooo slow - like unusable slow - is there anything that I can do?
Same problem here. Canon slows the lens in video. It becomes unusable for me. I am selling.
Excellent video, I wonder if you can tell me what setting is making the camera move. I have my camera set up with a tripod for an interview setting, and sometimes when it’s tracking it seems that the camera moves a little bit and seems that I was moving the camera but I’m not I am sure that the same but I can’t find what it is.
Good question. I'm not 100% sure but some lenses "breath" as they change focus, this could be what you are seeing here.
@@DeafDirector Thanks for the reply, this is what I mean, you can see at the beginning of the video how it seems as if I was moving the camera, but its on tripod. ruclips.net/video/mylxdKfqr9k/видео.html
@@mnorena Possibly the in-body stabilization is moving your sensor for some reason. Try turning it off when it's on a tripod and see if you notice a difference. Also, it could be caused by just vibrations in the room -- if the floor is wooden for example, and people are walking around on the set.
This is likely caused by image stabilization. If you have the camera on a tripod, you can turn that off on the lens and/or camera.
How did you get the gridlines to stay on while recording?
I really need help PLEASE!!!! when I shoot video I am not able to start and stop servo AF by touching the screen. How did I enable that?
You need to enable servo in the AF setting then you can enable and disable on the left bottom corner while in video.
You can also make a custom button to do that. I mapped the one next to the lens to do just that. Good luck and let me know if you need more help.
Yo, what happened to the audio in the product shot autofocus part 💀
Yeah that high pitched shrilling sound is rough. But great video otherwise, really good info
the product section is unwatcheable with the crt like high pitch coil whine, i dont think you noticed that
So sorry about that. I have total high range deafness so I can not hear that. I have thrown out the mic that caused the issue and the section is captioned if you need to mute it. Have a great day!
@@DeafDirector no problem, otherwise great video
Is it possible to assign these three setup to custom functions?
for canon r6 no. you cant save custom functions for video.
I think Sonys real time tracking is better.
Look - your good - you know what your doing - but for people learning the camera you move through your settings so fast its annoying. If your doing a training video slow the hell down. If one of my video editors when this fast in one of our training videos I would give them a D- grade - especially when they have the knowledge (like you have) to get an "A"