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POWER Tom Drums! | 5 Reasons They Are Awesome!
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- We often don't give enough attention to our tom drum sounds and sizes, but they're still a very important part of your drum kit. In this video, I give you 5 reasons why POWER TOMS are awesome and are primed for a comeback!
POWER TOMS!
5 Reasons Why!
1. It’s the tom sound of 80’s metal. You can get that 80’s ballad tone, especially if you throw a bunch of reverb on the toms
2. If you tune them high with coated heads, you basically arrive at the John Bonham tom sound
3. More depth and sustain in your tom sounds, which in my opinion makes it easier to get a fuller sounding recording
4. Effects, effects, effects!
5. This is the most shallow reason on the list, but simply put, in an era of shorter toms coupled with a strong sentiment of 80’s nostalgia, these simply look awesome because they’ve been out of style for so long. They’re going to stand out on the stage and catch attention, and let’s be honest, we’re drummers, it’s not like you’re playing a 100 decibel plus instrument so people can ignore you.
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Idk if anyone else has mentioned this, but part of the reason I love power toms are the feeling you get hitting it vs. a more shallow shell.
It’s kind of indescribable but if you hit both a shallow and a power tom, you know what I’m talking about!
Buddy....
You convinced me..
Put up my hyperdrive 4 sale tomorrow.
Im from 60 and grew up with power toms, just didn't realize how much more power you get out of them.
Thanks
Been a power tom guy my entire life. Been saying the same thing forever. They'll be making a comeback soon.
That would be awesome!
I respect every drummer, but the most drummers that i respect, are that ones that use big massive powertoms, like me!
I agree. I just bought a Pearl Reference...rack toms 6x8, 8x8, 10x10, 12x10, 13x11, 14x12, 15x13, 16x14; floor toms 16x16, 18x18; bass drum 24x18 (2). Total rocking sizes!
Yes
It would be nice to see that.
Nicko McBrain's opening fill on Powerslave is the quintessential power tom steez
They were also concert toms.
Aneurysm intro !! Love to see it
In fact, that stainless steel rack tom that JB used was actually a 12x15 which is considered standard. It seems deep due to the long mach lugs and the high position and angle. Power toms are awesome! I hate fast and hyperdrive toms!
This was a surprisingly cool video! I dig the drum sound you got coming off of that kit.
Awesome vid, thank you! Still using 1988 Pearl BLX. 33 years. My forever kit. 12x10, 13x11 over 22x16. Frustrates as a 5 + pce for playing jazz, etc., but excellent for rock, blues. Finally got a bop kit for jazz & new.
oh my god! Is this a demo video that actually plays the toms? Incredible!
Classic example of a power tom user/player from the 80s up till now is nicko Mc brain from iron maiden.
I love power toms.
I'm also in the process of building my own kit at work from scratch and yes bass drums 20 inch deep and toms all square sized, floor tom's over square sized, same depth as kick drums.
Yeah so square size rock mate.
Power toms are awesome. I've been playing and recording an old beat up late 80s Premeir Projector kit with 12, 13, and 16 power toms and it sounds better than my shiny new modern Yamaha Stage Custom.
I'm 52 and just bought a late 80's Granstar, 24 x 16, 16x16, 13x12, 10x9. I was only able to get it because it was cheap. And I've played for years but this is my first 24" bass drum which is cool. I'm just trying to decide what heads to go for and what type sound I want. PS - Bonham did play CS black dots at some point in the 70s with the vistalite kit.
Sold my modern pearl masters to get 2 killer 80s power tom kits.
Very cool video man keep going!!! :)
I have several kits, and though the tone of my kit with the power toms is nice... the reason fast toms became so popular (IMHO)... is the fact that you can get them to sit way closer to the bass drum, and actually hit the drum at a far better angle (flatter). The disadvantage of power toms is that they either have to be set at an extreme angle relative to the snare (See Lar's kit @ 1:50) or you need to sit lower than you'd like to hit them at a more appropriate angle. By "appropriate angle" I mean that the distance from the snare to the upper toms should be minimized as much as possible. Everyone plays differently, but fast transitions between snare and toms is very difficult at best when the upper toms are set high relative to the snare. To counter this... drummers had to angle the upper toms drastically. You also run the risk of poking holes in your heads :-( I honestly think that these are the main reasons they went out of style. Power tom kits are great for groove rock, because you're playing at a slower tempo with feel. The distance between the snare and the upper toms is less important for this type of drumming, and you can set your toms at a better angle of attack. Thanks for the video!
I just put my 13 x 11 on a snare stand in front of the snare. Then have the ride nicely over the kick.
@@timbretrent113 ... yep. That technique works well if you only use one upper tom. If you add another though, you have to completely alter your playing style by having two toms on stands to the left of your kick drum. Either that... or put your toms at extreme angles to minimize he distance between the snare and the tom for quick transitions between them.
@@footnotedrummer I have actually started putting my 12" tom to the LEFT of my hat on a stand, at the height of a floor tom so it's more like a cross pattern. The drums are also spaced out more so it's more challenging to run a fill down the toms but I don't do that very much and find I get more creative with this set up. Mine goes, 12", Hats, 13", Kick/ride, 16" FT
@@timbretrent113 ... you can't argue that your setup isn't unique. That's why experimentation is fantastic. If you're not playing speed metal, with fast tom rolls... it really doesn't matter. However... if you want to see something unlike any other setup that you've ever seen in metal... check out Jinjer's Drummer, Vlad. You can really see his setup clearly in their live song Pisces. Very unique, and he plays quite fast/technical. Keep it up, and have fun.
@@footnotedrummer I only wish I had the left hand control to be able to play like that. I'm stuck crossing over to the hat for now. Interesting set up! And, yeah I don't play speed metal, more 70's / 80's type rock, blues and progressive, think Zeppelin, Rush, Heart, GNR, SRV, Fleetwood Mac. I'm old guy haha
Glad I came across this video, Yes, I agree. What really influenced to start off was the Guns and Roses Monster Kit from Matt Sorum and Lars Ulrich. I love the look and feel of it.
Smooth dude
I also do think these are making a comeback
Power toms all the way! I'm using a 10x10 12x11 13x12 14x13 16x16 18x16 on my 89. I wouldn't have it any other way
I have always said the same about Bonhams drums his awesome stick Precision has contributions by the fact that he has really tight drum heads on big drums.
Does anybody remember Square Times I believe Weckle played them when he first joined Yamaha.
I had brand new standard drumsets and still didnt like them. So I sold them and bought a Yamaha Stage Custom from the late 90s. Love them.
hate myself for knowing that you're playing along to DCFCs "Cath" @2:57 hahaha
Seeing your drums reminds mo of dave grohl 💕
I remember power Toms. They were a bitch to get em to sound good. F.A.S.T. sets are my go to these days. It was easier for me to get a 12x9 rack tom to sound good than it was to get a 12x10. That or traditional sizes. Wish theyd expand both types these days to include more
I bought a new tama super star classic and immediately swapped it for a "vintage" Tama kit I love the deep, low tone. The new ones made from maple are way to high and I cant cut through the guitar and bass
I got to be frank, the fusion sized toms have been boring the hell out of me. I just purchased a set of 90s Tama Art Star IIs and am loving them for all the reasons you mentioned.
IMO I think power toms sound great for fusion. Traditional jazz, not so much. I have a mid 80's Tama Granstar set that I will never sell.
Love big drums. Never understood the trend to smalker drums. Little drums have their place, for little music. But nothing like the sound if big drums.
I like that Ludwig drum kit I would trad in for my accent combo power kit.something different
Hopefully the Ludwig element evaluation could make power tom’s.that would be great
I have both shorter and power toms and i prefer the shorter one because it has more power and resonance since is less body to vibrate from the drumhead, also you can fit them easily for giging and definitely in your drum set, power toms are heavier and well bigger so is not cool to move around, if you want to go smart go for normal shells
I love power toms, and by the lack of it I use a 14' floor tom as a rack, and I can't play anything lower than 13' anymore, it's just too small, and Dave Grohl it's my drum hero, so that kinda explains a lot, but it's also because I really like alternative rock, so I really enjoy more punch and deeper sounds, and FU if you say that no one is looking for that anymore because I am, and so a lot other drummers do, I believe
I've never had issues with setting power Tom's up. I keep mine similar to Lars Ulrichs 1991 setup. I use to 13" racks but I use to use a 14
Power toms are cool, but square toms are even more kick ass to my taste, traditional 70's depths are cool but I hate fast 10x7 10x6 toms.
Power toms should come back. Go retro with it and go BOOM!!!!
They're only power toms when you hit them with power 😉
Correct.
I sometimes get lost in terms... what depths are we exactly talking about when we say "power toms", "fast" ,"standard", etc...?
For example, you say the floor tom is 16" deep instead of the normal 14" (being a 16" in diameter). Well, for me the "normal" sizes are 16"x16", 18"x16" or 14"x14" (FT). With the 13" rack tom, you say it's 12" deep instead of the normal 9"... again, for me a "normal" one would be 13"x11" or at least 13"x10"... anything shorter than that, I would consider it as a shallow size. In fact I think those terms change with time, what today is considered standard is not what it was years ago.... I don't know, maybe it's just I'm an old dog.
My tom set is 10x9, 12x10, 14"x12 (rack), + 14x14 and 16x16 floor toms. For me they're pretty standard sizes (and so it was considered when I bought it, back in 2000), but now the trend is to make them shorter, so I guess today they're not "standard" any more. However, by no means I can consider them "power sizes" (well, with the floor toms there can be a coincidence). So, how would you call them...?🤔🤔🤔
I mean, use which ever size you want. But I like big drums, the problem is I haven't been lucky finding some.
I still prefer fast toms.
I've always played and liked power toms way more than the pissy little toms of today
The first drum beat is similar to aneurysm song from nirvana
Well this is the kit that dave grohl used live at paramount
Theguitaristthatdrums he used a Tama Granstar not a ludwig
@@theguitaristthatdrums6062 no it isn’t. That was a 1991 Firestorm Red Tama Granstar Custom in 15/18/24.
Is that suppose to be Aneurysm by Nirvana in the intro?
What Drumhead combination ist the best for deep power toms?
If you want more warmth like Dave Holland of Judas Priest go with Remo pinstripes. If you want more midrange attack? Go with Remo CS clear black dots.
@@Greggyboyz60 What about the bottom drumhead?
@@Sunriseblues5150 So sorry I miss read your question. I can’t answer your question. I can only suggest what heads work best for single headed power Toms. Pins and clear black dots. Sorry about the mistake
02:05 "When the levee breaks".
Dave Grohl. Nobody had a bigger rack Tom than Dave while he was in Nirvana. Hilariously big. Also nobody set thier hi hat higher either.
*Lars Ulrich enters the chat*
I agree power toms are awsome !!! I have a pearl export from the 80es and 90es to me there better then the newer pearl exports. Because there a lot bigger toms the smaller toms suck to me !!!
Go retro with it. The big classic Playstation video consoles also returned as small versions.
I totally agree! I too have an 8 piece Pearl Export set from the 80s or 90s. Deep Toms.
Reason 1: just listen to nicko mcbrains drumkit and weep
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PLEASE hit the bass drum at the same time as the crashes. i hate that so much lol
Only 5 reasons? 1000 reasons! 😀
Cathe?
Why dont they sell new power Tom's anymore
Because smaller drums are in style now. They are easier to lug around and easier to tune. It's just not the 90's anymore
@@ChristopherSackett Although the small drums exists since long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
@@tieukhavu8832 well yeah, they always were around, they were just less common
Go retro with power toms. Short toms are for non men's. MORE POWER!!!!!!!
@@ChristopherSackett what does style have to do with what your ear likes?
Its more like dave grohl set
Power Toms are more better than shorter Toms why because its way more better for rock and metal and sometimes other genre’s like pop, and R&B and a better tone, and as for the shorter Toms give me a break they are used for gospel the most , fusion, and jazz and metal drummers too and I don’t know why metal drummers these days won’t use power Toms but I know some drummers do, I’m really a big fan of power Toms and like I said they’re way more better than shorter Toms
Power toms are kinda awkward to play esp. high up on a big bass drum. Put them on a tom stand with a 20 by 18 bass drum and let's rock without a mullet, a perm, Spandex or a ponytail haha those should be illegal !
They make you sound like the cannibals are restless. Run for your life.
More sustain in a power tom? I disagree. It's just a different tone compared to short-shell toms. You get more low-end out of a shorter shell. As John Good of DW pointed out, the time it takes for the vibration to get from the top to the bottom of the shell is shorter. I think longer drums were mostly a marketing thing. In the late 80's and 90's, big drums meant a big and powerful sound.
When 16 inches deep is big
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They are so muffled you can't hear.
1 rack tom? What genius came up with that idea? Wonder why Neil Peart didn't use a ridiculously tiny set? Maybe guitar players should cut off one of their strings. Do you really need six? Smh.
I would never consider a 16x16 floor tom a power tom. That particular depth has been standard for decades. The 16x14 hasn't been around for nearly as long.