He was working for the British war effort, but he wasn't enlisted when he was killed. The plane he was in was a commercial Dutch airliner and not a military aircraft. He was a civilian and too old for active duty. Howard did his bit in uniform during the First World War.
The best thing about this story is that almost all its characters are grey. There aren't just good guys and bad guys. Each person is both and each has reasons for the way they think, act and react. Guess, that's what makes them humane and extraordinarily powerful and different from other classics.
Exactly. I feel like people overlook Scarlett's strong will and integrity in keeping Melanie safe. She had some decent traits, although the convict labor is deplorable. People demonize Scarlett and hold Rhett on a pedestal and say she didn't deserve him, like he treated her like a princess. In the book, Mitchell even says that he's the one man who doesn't respect Scarlett and wants to domesticate her basically (loving her like a "pet"), like that's a good thing. He loved her because she was like a wild horse, but did not see her as an equal.
@@sammavacaist not really. She did kill a man. Also, she knew her strength was in community service but when her community toppled she had to bank on Scarlett for survival.
@@moon66651 Scarlett killed the Yankee soldier who broke in. Melanie wanting to take his wallet after was practical because Confederate money was worthless and they were starving. One reason she had to rely on Scarlett was because she was so sick and weak after giving birth. Nothing immoral about that. She repaid Scarlett with fierce loyalty. Defending her when no one else would. The whole point of the Melly character is to contrast her virtue with Scarlett's deception and greed.
Leslie Howard was a brilliant actor, IMO. I have seen 25+ of his movies. He only agreed to do GWTW bc he was promised he could act in & produce Intermezzo by Selznick. Intermezzo is a terrific movie. He didn't like the milquetoast character of Ashley. He never saw the completed movie bc his visa was about to expire & he had to return to Britain & he forfeited his profits from GWTW. He wanted to do what he could against the Nazis & he gave his life for his efforts. Love you forever, Leslie!
The actor playing Ashley (Who's name I sadly forget) was killed in WWII when he was shot down while flying over the English Channel. In fact, a lot of the actors we see in this film died during the war. I appreciate the film even more knowing this tragic end for a lot of them.
Exactly. Ashley found Scarlett charming and sexy. He was impressed with various aspects of her personality, but he was not in love with her. She was the kind of woman he'd flirt with or date, but never marry. And once he was married to Melanie, he was too decent to cheat on her with Scarlett. Scarlet mistook his intrigue with her to be genuine love and thought that it was only Ashley's sense of duty and honor that kept him from being with her. She was right that Ashley should have told her years ago that he really loved Melanie. Scarlett had spent years loving the fictional Ashley and not the real Ashley.
@@maryk446, actually Ashley was v.much attracted to Scarlett, but realised earlier that her recklessness , selfish and tactless behaviour would have proved destructive for him- Melanie was the safe, steady bet that could guide him into clear waters ...and yet... :)
@@maryk446Ashley attraction to Scarlett was purely physical. And he wasn’t honest enough to tell her that. And her naive mind confused that with love. Ashley never would’ve dated or even been attracted to a woman as saintly like Melanie, but once he was married, he would never step out on her. Scarlett kept chasing a dream that didn’t exist.
Ashley was weak. Pining for the past that could never come back. Scarlett figures it out by the end of the movie, that it was a girlhood crush, but she could never really respect a man that weak as an adult woman who lived through everything she did.
I don't think it was a crush. Scarlett did love Ashley, but part of her infatuation was that she really thought Ashley wanted her. First she thought, as she said when she broke the vase, that he was too afraid to marry her because they were very different. Then she assumed he had too much honor to leave his wife and child for her. At the end she realizes that he found her charming and sexy, but he never really loved her the way he loved Melanie. That's why she got over him so quickly and turned to Rhett.
@@Zohra-lu5tg Well, for one, he actually married her. Second, he never left her for Scarlett, even though he clearly was attracted to Scarlett and found her charming. But ultimately, Ashley loved Melanie because she was virtuous and had honor. Remember at the party when Scarlett accuses Melanie of not meaning it when she complimented Scarlett? Ashley replied "No one could accuse Melanie of being insincere." Also, Ashley's reaction when Melanie died was genuine. Didn't he refer to her as "the only dream I had to die in the face of reality."
@@SomeDude518except for the kiss in this scene we just watched 🤣😂🤣 actually most people look upon a kiss or “ more than a kiss” as more adulterous than an emotional affair which is what scarlett and ashley had secretly lusting after each other behind melanie’s back- a lot of people don’t understand that that’s every bit as much cheating as the physical part because an emotional affair almost always leads to the bedroom which is why rhett in his drunken rage explained to scarlett why he despised ashley so much because Ashley had scarlett’s heart and he didn’t
Ashley was one of the worst characters in the book. He's victimizes himself for not being able to adapt to the post-war life and dwells on past privilege and tradition. He just bitches and moans and does a horrible job getting his hands dirty to survive (how he sucks at chopping wood lol).
I didn't think this was manipulation. It was his true self. He was being honest about attracted to her but he was also honest that he couldn't leave his wife and son behind. But I do think his ego was properly stroked by having a woman like Scarlett (beautiful, passionate, strong) wanting him and repeatedly coming on to him. I think he found her properly 'hot' (for lack of a better term) and would have sex with her if his 'honor' didn't prevent him to do so. He is human, come on LOL. But y'all are right that he was not very able to adapt to the post-war life like Scarlett and Rhett (who are willing to get their hands dirty literally and figuratively). Melanie noticed this too, that's why she asked Scarlett to care for Ashley after she's died.
@@tracys169 you r right. Ashley is stuck up in the lost world.cant adapt to the post war world. Many were like this. In "Glass menagerie" these stuck up ppl are shown living in an imaginary world. They continue their old life of grandeur in imagination living in poverty ,hard up to pay their bills, but won't lose their honour. Like fragile glass pieces in a menagerie they live and the least reality will shatter them to pieces. Here Ashley is pathetic when he says he wants to escape from reality. Scarlett on the other hand is strong. She delivered Melanie's baby with little knowledge of "birthing babies", drove the hard rode to Tara amidst war with a new born baby ,tired Melanie and the "simple minded"Prissy.She asks to tie the stray cow in Twelve oaks to feed milk for Melanie's, baby. She is the real fighter. Rhett goes to fight in the end of war ashamed of himself after seeing scarlet's fighting spirit. The true fighter in Gone with the wind is Scarlett who always works hand to have "food on the table"for her folks and "pay taxes"for Tara which is her only sheter.she became a business woman trading in lumber a great leap in those days. She is shrewd ,as timber is an important raw material for connstruction in post war Atlanta burnt down by Sherman. Tara is her driving force and she will live with her land and saw mill even after Rhett leaves.. If Rhett wants her let him come back to her...
Her obsession with Ashley turned an otherwise incredibly strong woman into a complete ninny. And Ashley kept stringing her along. He tried so hard to be a gentleman but he was so flawed.
She was obsessed with Ashley the way Rhett was obsessed with Scarlet. Only difference was she couldn’t pick Ashley up and force herself on him like Rhett forced himself on Scarlet.
@ThatsNotPoetry I think that was intentional. The film seems to be aware that while Scarlett and Rhett have good in them, they are at times the most spoiled, whiny, selfish, and manipulative people you would ever see. However that's what makes them so entertaining to watch (particularly when together) and makes their positive elements shine all the more. Scarlett holds her family together and Rhett's willing to help others when the time comes and he doesn't put up with nonsense.
@Darth Traya That wasn't necessarily a declaration of love as much as lust. In modern terms, he said he wanted to fuck her. In the book, Scarlett walks away feeling disillusioned,
It's a shame that Ashley is portrayed as such a bland character in the movie, whereas in the book he has a much more conflicted, somewhat darker personality. In the novel it is strongly implied, several times, that he feels desire and lust for Scarlett. The movie is more "proper" and doesn't really address this aspect of Ashley's personality.
@@pepper1188 yeah I know Clark Gable was one beautiful guy but Ashley, who's played by Leslie Howard is my top just for his lovely eyes. Don't you find him lovely at least?
THis scene is one of the greatest love scenes in any movie at any time--and it will never be equaled. It is proof that they loved--no matter what the ending of the film suggests.
i don't think ashley ever loved her. he cared for her deeply and he was very attracted to her physically. i think what he felt for her was lust. love is somethig else entirely. they also were too different to work it out.
It's a great scene true but it's not a scene of true love. It's a naive teenager who is obsessed with the idea of the only man who never fawned over her and a 30 year old man driven wild by lust.
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She threw herself at him, and look closely, she initiated the kiss. HE broke away, HE renounced the relationship. But he was careful to not break her heart wantonly. He reminded her that she had Tara and she loved it more than her. Then she admitted she cared about Tara. Ashley never wanted to be a jerk about anything. He cared about not breaking Scarlett's heart. He was a true gentleman.
At tbe end of tbe book they both realize they never really loved each other. He admitted he lusted after her but that his true love was Melanie and that he couldn't live without Melanie. Scarlett realized that she loved an illusion she invented in her head and that she really loved Rhett.
She loved the idea of him. They were intoxicated by lust but real love? No. They were never a good match or equals. Scarlett realizes that at the end when it’s too late.
rockNroll Actually I am sure he did give a "fuck", and brought joy to many in this film, though admittedly gwtw was not his ultimate showcase of talent.
In part because it doesn't really break the story. The southern accent Scarlett and the other aristocrats of the south before the war is an exaggerated southern accent based in reality, since back then the south tried to mimic the British accent
the love between Scarlett and Ashley was so powerful that it frightened him because his sense of honor denied him any chance of his leaving his wife to run away Scarlett. Ashley realized the truth!
well actually if you read the book it's all clear there what Ashley really wants from Scarlett... he just wants her body all along! He can't be with Melanie either because another child would kill her (as it happend in the end), and this is why he is "suffering" so much. So it is his honor what is holds him back to fuck Scarlett nothing else. And do you want to hear another "funny" thing? Scarlett never thought of Ashley with lust EVER. She thought their "love" is pure - haha, how she was wrong all along, it is really tragic.
I agree with hcoffeegirl. Ashley lusted over Scarlett. His 'gentleman' sense of honor obviously prevents him from having sex with her. While Scarlett's perception of Ashley was completely idealized in her head
@@hcoffeegirl really good comments. Ashley lusts after Scarlet, and in doing so is behaving much more like Rhett than Scarlet could possibly imagine. It's only after Melanie dies that Scarlet realizes just how little Ashley cared about her as a person. Rhett was perfect for Scarlet. Melanie understood that. She also understood that Ashley was just as attracted to Scarlet as every other man in her orbit. The great tragedy is that Ashely is horribly weak and ambiguous with Scarlet. If he had said, plainly, "no Scarlet. I don't love you. I love Melanie" back at the barbeque in 12 Oaks she would have gone off with Rhett then. But there would be no story.
Gone With the Wind is actually the story of how one man didn't follow his heart and marry the woman he truly loved, and four people suffer for it the rest of their lives.
It's not even close to the truth. The whole book is about a woman that tries everything to get what she wants for no reason whatsoever because she do not understand the man that she desires.
to me scarlett is looking for love in the wrong places even when she wants to force the person who doesnt love her like this song i remembered called i cant make you love me if you dont i cant make your heart feel something it wont and scarlett just doesnt understand ashley does not love her and she is doing everything in her power to win him but it never ever going to happen and just like clark and lois lane in the scene where she said that she was jealous that she had to share him with the world and they couldnt be tgether please dont force someone to love u let it happen naturally it will make them and urself miserable
Well, Leslie Howard _was_ British. And apparently was the most reluctant of all the actors to have anything to do with the film, so I imagine he just didn't give a damn whether he kept the accent Southern or not - bear in mind, this was not a very popular book with men in general, at the time.
aww from 2:11 to 2:35 you can really tell how much she wants for him to love him...it actually made me sob little lol but i think in the end what Scarlett just wanted is to win his love just because she was a really determined girl to always have her things her way.
He was totally leading her on! @1:12 he specifically says "well even if it is a lie..." The truth is if he didn't love her or was not interested in her in anyway, he would have maintained that I don't love you. He was confused himself and did string her along
Kelly oxo I agree he was so wishy washy. He should have told her straight out then that he loved Melanie and their life and not her and walked away from Scarlett instead of kissing her and making her believe she had a chance.
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Was that really YOUR secret to tell, Scarlett? About Miss Melanie not being able to have more children? And are you REALLY using this secret to justify you stealing Melanie's husband when she's just had a baby of her own? That's just cruel and selfish.
Ashley isn't a wimp he is just proper and reserved. And I'm not just saying that because I'm a guy and Ma gave me the middle name "Ashley" after him. You're right about not deserving Rhett, she doesn't deserve either of them.
He was like a chicken he didn t fight for anything he doesn t know to do anything! He s living in a dream world! Scarlet took too much time to understand that they are too far to their hearts meet! Even rhet was so rude with her all the movie! The only person that I truly love is Will and Milany! The rest are melted with feelings, angers and pride...
There's definitely a hilarious aspect to this scene.Actually, the whole movie is hilarious. When they all had to take a nap for example. Hey, cooling systems matter.
People are mean about Ashley. He always respected Scarlett and championed her when everybody else badmouthed her. Or do you women prefer seeing Rhett talk down to her and manhandle her constantly? You have issues.
They wouldn't be happy. Scarlett would get tired of him and would do what she wanted to do despite conventions to his (and his family's embarrassment), and since she's good in business, she would take care of everything financially...and Ashley would be disillusioned by her and drifted even further emotionally. Although in the beginning, I'm sure the two would have a pretty good sex life but yeah, Ashley's idealization of Scarlett would fall away sooner than later.
Ashley was her true love.... unless she had him. If she had him, then she would not love him. Tara, Mammy, and her sisters (not as much as Tara/Mammy) are the ones she love more than anything. She wants what was a reminder of the good ol days.... Knowing Scarlet, when mammy died, she took the olden days with her. Rhett will not come back, hes a man of his word. Ashley will not either, probably died a lonely man with his books.
Cracked is right on the money with this one..... although I feel somewhat sorry for Scarlet because Ashley's so much of a worm he leads her on. He needed to be firm and maybe even a little hateful with her so she'd leave him alone.
I don't necessarily like Ashley's character, but tbh, I kind of 'get' why he's lusted for Scarlett. His wife is so frail that sex would probably hurt her and they probably had to have very little of it or abstain because she would probably die if she got knocked up (and they're pretty fertile that he managed to knock her up the first 'leave' he had). So, in the book, he is this young mid 20s man, red-blooded (sure he may be quiet/introverted but still a sexual being) and to have this gorgeous, charming young woman (who's the belle of the ball basically) kept throwing herself at him, professing her love. Who wouldn't be tempted? He's human. But at least, he was 'honorable' enough to stop from having sex with her... Yeah, imo, he's too 'honest' to admit that he was lusting after her but he was honest to tell her that he wouldn't leave and hurt Melanie. Even when he did say he didn't love her, she wouldn't 'take' it. That's how stubborn our Scarlett is lol.
They always go for the quiet good girl like Melanie in the end BUT they still secretly pine after -- and these days often do a lot more than just pine after! -- the fiery, feisty, hot-blooded woman like Scarlett.
A história de vida de Scarlet, podemos observar que em meio suas lutas, derrotas e desilusões amorosas (NADA RESTOU PARA ELA.) Mas... Scarlet encontrou forças a cada dia em TARA para recomeçar e construir sua vida!!!
I'll always find it funny that they weren't satisfied with the American actors they tested that they cast two English actors for the lead parts, except for Clark Gable.
Maybe if they had hooked up once, it would snap both of them out of the fantasy. Sometimes u have to see for yourself that it's simply lust and nothing more.
I think Ashley knew it was a fantasy the entire time but just didn’t have the courage or moral fiber to admit it. As for Scarlett, if Ashley had slept with her, I think it would have confirmed in her mind his feelings for her and would have made things worse.
Rhet was insulting her all time, each single time they meet she tell him That her wish is to do not see him again, yes he gave her money but in a very rude way! It s not enough to love someone and to do not respect him! He was a friend that she feels happy and comfortable when she can confess all her mistakes! But money can't buy hearts
Have read the book several times and I still dont understand Ashley. It's obvious he's very much in love with Melanie. What exactly did he feel for Scarlett?
PrincessA Lust. He loves Melanie because she’s mature and kind, but he loves Scarlett’s spirit and passion for life. In the book, Melanie is described as not terribly attractive, while Scarlett is supposed to be gorgeous beyond measure.
Very shallow replies. Mitchell is highly perceptive about Ashley and Scarlett. They do love each other but they could not live together. Mitchell says as much and she is correct. One must be emotionally mature to understand this, and Mitchell was. She was totally blind about slavery, though.
You know, people always thought I was crazy when I said I didn't find her particularly admirable. Thanks to Cracked, I now know I'm not the only one to think so. =P
ashley love scarlet but he knows that he is not match for her because they were different in character.in the end he realized that he loves melanie.but melanie is going to die.scarlet in the end realized too that the man she really like is rhett.she realized too that she dont realy like ashley.she thinks ashley will like a baby that she need to take care too.instead that ashley will take care of her.rhett is so manly and strong and always care for scarlett.but sadly rhett is already gave up on her because he thought scarlett will never loved him and rhett go away from scarlet.in the end scarlett choose not to give up on rhett and decide to find him
Ơ nhưng mà Ashly đã hôn Scarlett khi anh ta đã có vợ, đây là hành động ngoại tình mà??? Hay thời xưa người ta sống thoáng vậy chứ mình xem bị giật mình luôn á, xem cut nên chưa hiểu toàn cảnh, ai giải thích cho tui vớii
BLTKellys and he left her in the woods in the middle of the war with a dying woman and her newborn child, continually cheated on her, and was extremely emotionally abusive. Scarlett “emotionally cheated” on Rhett with Ashley but he married her knowing she loved him, so he lashed out by actually physically cheating on her. He demonized Scarlett for not loving him back, but he was such a dick to her that I don’t even blame her. I could go on and on lol
She idealized her feelings for Ashley due to how much she misses her old life before the war. What she felt for him was more of an obsession due to Ashley representing everything that she lost and hoped to regain. In truth, her feelings for Ashley is just a teenage girl crush that never disappeared. (Also, the actor in the film was a complete miscast, because in the book, Ashley is a handsome young guy.)
They don’t deserve each other - I like Ashley as a character because of all his dignity and honour but somehow I feel like they manipulate each other throughout the book
Lee la novela. Scarrlett solo al final Conprendio que no era amor.era capricho.y el verdadero amor lo dejo Pasar. Un problema muy recurente entre Las mujeres.
Watching Gone With the Wind, especially during the aftermath of the Civil War, I totally understand why the memory of the Civil War is still so vividly alive in the South. The Confederate monuments we see in the South were a bone tossed by the North as some sort of olive branch. Hence I cringed at the SJWs of today who are trying to remove these monuments, trying to be relevant and historically significant.
In all honesty, Scarlett really is a total bitc* and I do not know or remember ever hearing that Scatter the character has a mental disorder of any kind. Please correct me if I am wrong or if in the book it says anything about her having a mental disorder. I know she is very self centered and only cares about herself. But she lives in a marriage to Rhett who she does not ever love. She lives her life in complete bitterness and unhappiness. I know in real life the actress Vivien Leigh did have severe bioplar disorder and depression. That is not out of disrespect for her. She is an incredible amazing actress. I just mean that I feel that she was able to connect very well with Scartlett in this iconic classic role. I do not know really what kind of person Viven was but I do know that she was somehow able to her emotional stability and latch it to connect that element with Scartlett O'Hara. Just some of my thoughts
now you do really made some comments over here... ;) i just watched the film, so what do i know... i can understand if you think director could have made a better interpretation of the characters. i just dont agree with many other people that rhett guy is that awesome, unless you are a really boring person with very low self-esteem
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In case anyone doesn't know, the actor that played ashley enlisted after this movie, and died in action during world war II. RIP.
Yes his aircraft was shot down he was only 50. They have a placard in his and commrads memory in Spain. RIP Leslie Howard
He was working for the British war effort, but he wasn't enlisted when he was killed. The plane he was in was a commercial Dutch airliner and not a military aircraft. He was a civilian and too old for active duty. Howard did his bit in uniform during the First World War.
Leslie Howard. RIP.
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R.I.P. Sir,you’re such a fine young man.May the souls of the departed R.I.P.,Amen.
The best thing about this story is that almost all its characters are grey. There aren't just good guys and bad guys. Each person is both and each has reasons for the way they think, act and react. Guess, that's what makes them humane and extraordinarily powerful and different from other classics.
Moon Dasgupta exactly
Exactly. I feel like people overlook Scarlett's strong will and integrity in keeping Melanie safe. She had some decent traits, although the convict labor is deplorable. People demonize Scarlett and hold Rhett on a pedestal and say she didn't deserve him, like he treated her like a princess. In the book, Mitchell even says that he's the one man who doesn't respect Scarlett and wants to domesticate her basically (loving her like a "pet"), like that's a good thing. He loved her because she was like a wild horse, but did not see her as an equal.
Melanie was saintly.
@@sammavacaist not really. She did kill a man. Also, she knew her strength was in community service but when her community toppled she had to bank on Scarlett for survival.
@@moon66651 Scarlett killed the Yankee soldier who broke in. Melanie wanting to take his wallet after was practical because Confederate money was worthless and they were starving. One reason she had to rely on Scarlett was because she was so sick and weak after giving birth. Nothing immoral about that. She repaid Scarlett with fierce loyalty. Defending her when no one else would. The whole point of the Melly character is to contrast her virtue with Scarlett's deception and greed.
powerful scene. nobody gets what they want. and Rhett unfortunately ends up in the game too--only Melanie stays true to herself..
Melanie and Mammy.
Leslie Howard was a brilliant actor, IMO. I have seen 25+ of his movies. He only agreed to do GWTW bc he was promised he could act in & produce Intermezzo by Selznick. Intermezzo is a terrific movie. He didn't like the milquetoast character of Ashley. He never saw the completed movie bc his visa was about to expire & he had to return to Britain & he forfeited his profits from GWTW. He wanted to do what he could against the Nazis & he gave his life for his efforts. Love you forever, Leslie!
I just wish he tried a bit more with the accent lol
The actor playing Ashley (Who's name I sadly forget) was killed in WWII when he was shot down while flying over the English Channel. In fact, a lot of the actors we see in this film died during the war. I appreciate the film even more knowing this tragic end for a lot of them.
Leslie Howard is his name. The actor
He actually died in a plane accident.
Lesley Howard.
It’s quite telling how he says “I love your courage and your stubbornness” instead of “I love you.”
Exactly. Ashley found Scarlett charming and sexy. He was impressed with various aspects of her personality, but he was not in love with her. She was the kind of woman he'd flirt with or date, but never marry. And once he was married to Melanie, he was too decent to cheat on her with Scarlett. Scarlet mistook his intrigue with her to be genuine love and thought that it was only Ashley's sense of duty and honor that kept him from being with her. She was right that Ashley should have told her years ago that he really loved Melanie. Scarlett had spent years loving the fictional Ashley and not the real Ashley.
@@maryk446, actually Ashley was v.much attracted to Scarlett, but realised earlier that her recklessness , selfish and tactless behaviour would have proved destructive for him- Melanie was the safe, steady bet that could guide him into clear waters ...and yet... :)
@@maryk446Ashley attraction to Scarlett was purely physical. And he wasn’t honest enough to tell her that. And her naive mind confused that with love. Ashley never would’ve dated or even been attracted to a woman as saintly like Melanie, but once he was married, he would never step out on her. Scarlett kept chasing a dream that didn’t exist.
@@flyingsnow00Melanie was wife material Scarlett was just someone you sleep with not even a mistress cause she is a trouble maker
@@maryk446good analysis!
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I had the hugest crush on Ashley when I as a kid, oh my!!!
Ashley was weak. Pining for the past that could never come back. Scarlett figures it out by the end of the movie, that it was a girlhood crush, but she could never really respect a man that weak as an adult woman who lived through everything she did.
I don't think it was a crush. Scarlett did love Ashley, but part of her infatuation was that she really thought Ashley wanted her. First she thought, as she said when she broke the vase, that he was too afraid to marry her because they were very different. Then she assumed he had too much honor to leave his wife and child for her. At the end she realizes that he found her charming and sexy, but he never really loved her the way he loved Melanie. That's why she got over him so quickly and turned to Rhett.
@@maryk446 explain how he loved Mélanie ?
@@Zohra-lu5tg Well, for one, he actually married her. Second, he never left her for Scarlett, even though he clearly was attracted to Scarlett and found her charming. But ultimately, Ashley loved Melanie because she was virtuous and had honor. Remember at the party when Scarlett accuses Melanie of not meaning it when she complimented Scarlett? Ashley replied "No one could accuse Melanie of being insincere." Also, Ashley's reaction when Melanie died was genuine. Didn't he refer to her as "the only dream I had to die in the face of reality."
1:40 " Nothing except honor..." What a value, that this generation knows Nothing about it.
And yet Ashley has no honour. Cheating on his wife and stringing another woman along so that she never found happiness.
You obviously took from this film what you wanted to take from it instead of the intended message. Christ.
True. A beautiful idea now long forgotten.
@sims2lovealot it's a Grey area. He was emotionally unfaithful but they never hooked up.
@@SomeDude518except for the kiss in this scene we just watched 🤣😂🤣 actually most people look upon a kiss or “ more than a kiss” as more adulterous than an emotional affair which is what scarlett and ashley had secretly lusting after each other behind melanie’s back- a lot of people don’t understand that that’s every bit as much cheating as the physical part because an emotional affair almost always leads to the bedroom which is why rhett in his drunken rage explained to scarlett why he despised ashley so much because Ashley had scarlett’s heart and he didn’t
Ashley really did manipulate her. I think he got off on her pawning after him.
Ashley was one of the worst characters in the book. He's victimizes himself for not being able to adapt to the post-war life and dwells on past privilege and tradition. He just bitches and moans and does a horrible job getting his hands dirty to survive (how he sucks at chopping wood lol).
I didn't think this was manipulation. It was his true self. He was being honest about attracted to her but he was also honest that he couldn't leave his wife and son behind. But I do think his ego was properly stroked by having a woman like Scarlett (beautiful, passionate, strong) wanting him and repeatedly coming on to him. I think he found her properly 'hot' (for lack of a better term) and would have sex with her if his 'honor' didn't prevent him to do so. He is human, come on LOL. But y'all are right that he was not very able to adapt to the post-war life like Scarlett and Rhett (who are willing to get their hands dirty literally and figuratively). Melanie noticed this too, that's why she asked Scarlett to care for Ashley after she's died.
Many, many people do. It's very common behavior unfortunately
@@tracys169 you r right. Ashley is stuck up in the lost world.cant adapt to the post war world. Many were like this. In "Glass menagerie" these stuck up ppl are shown living in an imaginary world. They continue their old life of grandeur in imagination living in poverty ,hard up to pay their bills, but won't lose their honour. Like fragile glass pieces in a menagerie they live and the least reality will shatter them to pieces. Here Ashley is pathetic when he says he wants to escape from reality. Scarlett on the other hand is strong. She delivered Melanie's baby with little knowledge of "birthing babies", drove the hard rode to Tara amidst war with a new born baby ,tired Melanie and the "simple minded"Prissy.She asks to tie the stray cow in Twelve oaks to feed milk for Melanie's, baby. She is the real fighter. Rhett goes to fight in the end of war ashamed of himself after seeing scarlet's fighting spirit. The true fighter in Gone with the wind is Scarlett who always works hand to have "food on the table"for her folks and "pay taxes"for Tara which is her only sheter.she became a business woman trading in lumber a great leap in those days. She is shrewd ,as timber is an important raw material for connstruction in post war Atlanta burnt down by Sherman. Tara is her driving force and she will live with her land and saw mill even after Rhett leaves.. If Rhett wants her let him come back to her...
Yup.
Her obsession with Ashley turned an otherwise incredibly strong woman into a complete ninny.
And Ashley kept stringing her along. He tried so hard to be a gentleman but he was so flawed.
She was obsessed with Ashley the way Rhett was obsessed with Scarlet. Only difference was she couldn’t pick Ashley up and force herself on him like Rhett forced himself on Scarlet.
And Ashley didn’t string her along. The dude rejected her and got married. What else was he suppose to do? Beat and insult her?
@@Sam-zb8qt 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Sam-zb8qt He didn’t force himself on her.
Oh shit. You’re right. This is like that one guy. That one guy
@ThatsNotPoetry
I think that was intentional. The film seems to be aware that while Scarlett and Rhett have good in them, they are at times the most spoiled, whiny, selfish, and manipulative people you would ever see. However that's what makes them so entertaining to watch (particularly when together) and makes their positive elements shine all the more. Scarlett holds her family together and Rhett's willing to help others when the time comes and he doesn't put up with nonsense.
Aw he didn't say that thing about "loving her so much he was going to take her on the ground like a heathen."
What do you mean?
😳 well I declare
@Darth Traya That wasn't necessarily a declaration of love as much as lust. In modern terms, he said he wanted to fuck her. In the book, Scarlett walks away feeling disillusioned,
It's a shame that Ashley is portrayed as such a bland character in the movie, whereas in the book he has a much more conflicted, somewhat darker personality. In the novel it is strongly implied, several times, that he feels desire and lust for Scarlett. The movie is more "proper" and doesn't really address this aspect of Ashley's personality.
He's saying it's her strength he loves. He didn't say he loved her.
He led her on. He wasn't noble.
@missmuggledetector Ashley didn't just want Scarlett's body- what he loved her for was her spirit and strength
...and yet he understood how destructive she would've been
He wasn’t that interested in her it was just lust 🤣
Man I kinda get her. Ashley is cute and fine as hell
Not a bit. Rhett was the gorgeous one
@@pepper1188 yeah I know Clark Gable was one beautiful guy but Ashley, who's played by Leslie Howard is my top just for his lovely eyes. Don't you find him lovely at least?
@@futureai2702 I do!
@@futureai2702 i found him better than Rhett the whole movie
He was too weak for her. Scarlett needed a man as strong as she was. Rhett understood her and loved her strength.
How beautifully tragic....
Tragic??? How???
THis scene is one of the greatest love scenes in any movie at any time--and it will never be equaled. It is proof that they loved--no matter what the ending of the film suggests.
i don't think ashley ever loved her. he cared for her deeply and he was very attracted to her physically. i think what he felt for her was lust. love is somethig else entirely. they also were too different to work it out.
It's a great scene true but it's not a scene of true love. It's a naive teenager who is obsessed with the idea of the only man who never fawned over her and a 30 year old man driven wild by lust.
She threw herself at him, and look closely, she initiated the kiss. HE broke away, HE renounced the relationship. But he was careful to not break her heart wantonly. He reminded her that she had Tara and she loved it more than her. Then she admitted she cared about Tara. Ashley never wanted to be a jerk about anything. He cared about not breaking Scarlett's heart. He was a true gentleman.
At tbe end of tbe book they both realize they never really loved each other. He admitted he lusted after her but that his true love was Melanie and that he couldn't live without Melanie. Scarlett realized that she loved an illusion she invented in her head and that she really loved Rhett.
She loved the idea of him. They were intoxicated by lust but real love? No. They were never a good match or equals. Scarlett realizes that at the end when it’s too late.
Why did I never wonder till now why the hell Ashley has an English accent when he's supposed to be Southern?
The actor didn't give a fuck.
rockNroll Actually I am sure he did give a "fuck", and brought joy to many in this film, though admittedly gwtw was not his ultimate showcase of talent.
In part because it doesn't really break the story. The southern accent Scarlett and the other aristocrats of the south before the war is an exaggerated southern accent based in reality, since back then the south tried to mimic the British accent
Leslie is wonderful
the love between Scarlett and Ashley was so powerful that it frightened him because his sense of honor denied him any chance of his leaving his wife to run away Scarlett. Ashley realized the truth!
I couldnt resist Scarlett
well actually if you read the book it's all clear there what Ashley really wants from Scarlett... he just wants her body all along!
He can't be with Melanie either because another child would kill her (as it happend in the end), and this is why he is "suffering" so much. So it is his honor what is holds him back to fuck Scarlett nothing else. And do you want to hear another "funny" thing? Scarlett never thought of Ashley with lust EVER. She thought their "love" is pure - haha, how she was wrong all along, it is really tragic.
I agree with hcoffeegirl. Ashley lusted over Scarlett. His 'gentleman' sense of honor obviously prevents him from having sex with her. While Scarlett's perception of Ashley was completely idealized in her head
@@tracys169 yes, agree, the book makes it clear. Ashley truly loved Melanie and only lusted after Scarlett.
@@hcoffeegirl really good comments. Ashley lusts after Scarlet, and in doing so is behaving much more like Rhett than Scarlet could possibly imagine. It's only after Melanie dies that Scarlet realizes just how little Ashley cared about her as a person.
Rhett was perfect for Scarlet. Melanie understood that. She also understood that Ashley was just as attracted to Scarlet as every other man in her orbit.
The great tragedy is that Ashely is horribly weak and ambiguous with Scarlet. If he had said, plainly, "no Scarlet. I don't love you. I love Melanie" back at the barbeque in 12 Oaks she would have gone off with Rhett then.
But there would be no story.
Gone With the Wind is actually the story of how one man didn't follow his heart and marry the woman he truly loved, and four people suffer for it the rest of their lives.
It's not even close to the truth.
The whole book is about a woman that tries everything to get what she wants for no reason whatsoever because she do not understand the man that she desires.
You should (re-)read the novel, I think you are confusing desire and love here!
to me scarlett is looking for love in the wrong places even when she wants to force the person who doesnt love her like this song i remembered called i cant make you love me if you dont i cant make your heart feel something it wont and scarlett just doesnt understand ashley does not love her and she is doing everything in her power to win him but it never ever going to happen and just like clark and lois lane in the scene where she said that she was jealous that she had to share him with the world and they couldnt be tgether please dont force someone to love u let it happen naturally it will make them and urself miserable
"Oh Ashley."
Ashley always Ashley with Scarlett lol.
I'm not gonna lie Ashley is extremely cute
He spoke his lines in a British accent 😂
LOL
Well, Leslie Howard _was_ British. And apparently was the most reluctant of all the actors to have anything to do with the film, so I imagine he just didn't give a damn whether he kept the accent Southern or not - bear in mind, this was not a very popular book with men in general, at the time.
I KNOW he was British. And that's interesting. I just sort of assumed he forgot he was supposed to be speaking in an American accent. :)
Turns out that he’s actually English, but whatever😂
Neha Chander, Indeed, and Vivien Leigh was also British and she held to the southern accent throughout the entire movie.👍
aww from 2:11 to 2:35 you can really tell how much she wants for him to love him...it actually made me sob little lol but i think in the end what Scarlett just wanted is to win his love just because she was a really determined girl to always have her things her way.
So relatable . Even in few situations today
Ashley was a creep, he was just leading her on.
Ye nothing says leading on quite like marrying someone else
He was totally leading her on!
@1:12 he specifically says "well even if it is a lie..." The truth is if he didn't love her or was not interested in her in anyway, he would have maintained that I don't love you. He was confused himself and did string her along
Art notforthesakeofart he is a human. They both led each other on
Kelly oxo I agree he was so wishy washy. He should have told her straight out then that he loved Melanie and their life and not her and walked away from Scarlett instead of kissing her and making her believe she had a chance.
she just got friendzoned in a nice manner
I've always loved Leslie Howard
“Um filme maravilhoso sobre “esperança” que resistiu bem ao tempo, uma obra prima, talvez a maior da era de ouro Hollywoodiana, que nem o vento será capaz de apagar!!!”
Was that really YOUR secret to tell, Scarlett? About Miss Melanie not being able to have more children? And are you REALLY using this secret to justify you stealing Melanie's husband when she's just had a baby of her own? That's just cruel and selfish.
i wish they had been able to get together
No she would have destroyed him
She would have been bored of him. And he only lusts her.
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Ashley isn't a wimp he is just proper and reserved. And I'm not just saying that because I'm a guy and Ma gave me the middle name "Ashley" after him.
You're right about not deserving Rhett, she doesn't deserve either of them.
My family named me like her because of this movie. And My Love life is just like this scene!!!
Pshhh I don't have a love life.... And I guess I'm proud of it.... Yeah I'm proud of it
Scarleth Bula Paez your lucky to hey the female name my mum named me Ashley 😆😆
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Ashley is a milquetoast bore, but I do give him credit for knowing Scarlett enough to remind her that her true love is Tara.
He was like a chicken he didn t fight for anything he doesn t know to do anything!
He s living in a dream world!
Scarlet took too much time to understand that they are too far to their hearts meet!
Even rhet was so rude with her all the movie!
The only person that I truly love is Will and Milany!
The rest are melted with feelings, angers and pride...
It's HILARIOUS if you watch it w/ subtitles and the sound off!
There's definitely a hilarious aspect to this scene.Actually, the whole movie is hilarious. When they all had to take a nap for example. Hey, cooling systems matter.
EXCELLENT SCENE!!!
Always honour / honor, duty and prudence - Elinor in Ang Lee’s Sense and Sensibility - Perfection. - Tamara P. O’Connell
I love Ashley.
People are mean about Ashley. He always respected Scarlett and championed her when everybody else badmouthed her. Or do you women prefer seeing Rhett talk down to her and manhandle her constantly? You have issues.
Yup. Team Ashley here.
oh bore off you 🤡
@@missjemma9978triggered much?
Hello, i love Rhett,but Ashley is a gentleman and a handsome and refinated guy this was the reason why Scarlett love him so different at she was...❤❤
just finish this book .I'm really sad to see Scarlett story end like that , I wish she marry with Ashley
They wouldn't be happy. Scarlett would get tired of him and would do what she wanted to do despite conventions to his (and his family's embarrassment), and since she's good in business, she would take care of everything financially...and Ashley would be disillusioned by her and drifted even further emotionally. Although in the beginning, I'm sure the two would have a pretty good sex life but yeah, Ashley's idealization of Scarlett would fall away sooner than later.
i always shipped ashley and scarlett more than rhett and her...dno why...they just have more chemistry
Ashley was her true love.... unless she had him. If she had him, then she would not love him.
Tara, Mammy, and her sisters (not as much as Tara/Mammy) are the ones she love more than anything. She wants what was a reminder of the good ol days....
Knowing Scarlet, when mammy died, she took the olden days with her. Rhett will not come back, hes a man of his word. Ashley will not either, probably died a lonely man with his books.
Maddie Wilson i think she was married to the actor in real life if i recall...
Maddie Wilson I respectfully disagree. Ashley is so wishy washy.
Blah hh he was like 20 years older than her I recall. Also, he was married to someone else and had two kids.
Blah hh she was married to Laurence Olivier.
Cracked is right on the money with this one..... although I feel somewhat sorry for Scarlet because Ashley's so much of a worm he leads her on. He needed to be firm and maybe even a little hateful with her so she'd leave him alone.
I don't necessarily like Ashley's character, but tbh, I kind of 'get' why he's lusted for Scarlett. His wife is so frail that sex would probably hurt her and they probably had to have very little of it or abstain because she would probably die if she got knocked up (and they're pretty fertile that he managed to knock her up the first 'leave' he had). So, in the book, he is this young mid 20s man, red-blooded (sure he may be quiet/introverted but still a sexual being) and to have this gorgeous, charming young woman (who's the belle of the ball basically) kept throwing herself at him, professing her love. Who wouldn't be tempted? He's human. But at least, he was 'honorable' enough to stop from having sex with her... Yeah, imo, he's too 'honest' to admit that he was lusting after her but he was honest to tell her that he wouldn't leave and hurt Melanie. Even when he did say he didn't love her, she wouldn't 'take' it. That's how stubborn our Scarlett is lol.
In the end they always go for the quiet good girl AKA women like Melanie
They always go for the quiet good girl like Melanie in the end BUT they still secretly pine after -- and these days often do a lot more than just pine after! -- the fiery, feisty, hot-blooded woman like Scarlett.
Ashley is leading her on. If he loved Scarlet he would have married her.
He wasn’t going to abandon his wife and baby. He hoped Scarlett would forget about him but she never did.
@tasceaie1493: Preach it! Leslie is the only guy I would have cried of a broken heart for.
A história de vida de Scarlet, podemos observar que em meio suas lutas, derrotas e desilusões amorosas (NADA RESTOU PARA ELA.) Mas... Scarlet encontrou forças a cada dia em TARA para recomeçar e construir sua vida!!!
Scarlet is probably an example of: Life is a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing.'
I'll always find it funny that they weren't satisfied with the American actors they tested that they cast two English actors for the lead parts, except for Clark Gable.
Owwh its so beautiful the fact is Scarlett loves Ashley but he dosnt likes her just because he wont 😬😬
Huh . . . . ??
Maybe if they had hooked up once, it would snap both of them out of the fantasy. Sometimes u have to see for yourself that it's simply lust and nothing more.
I think Ashley knew it was a fantasy the entire time but just didn’t have the courage or moral fiber to admit it. As for Scarlett, if Ashley had slept with her, I think it would have confirmed in her mind his feelings for her and would have made things worse.
@@abandonallhope.1040 oof good point
She's got Rhett Butler, funny and caring, and she wants her stupid Ashley.. honestly what's wrong with her !
If i was scarlett i could never love rhett
Rhet was insulting her all time, each single time they meet she tell him
That her wish is to do not see him again, yes he gave her money but in a very rude way!
It s not enough to love someone and to do not respect him!
He was a friend that she feels happy and comfortable when she can confess all her mistakes!
But money can't buy hearts
Have read the book several times and I still dont understand Ashley. It's obvious he's very much in love with Melanie. What exactly did he feel for Scarlett?
PrincessA Lust. He loves Melanie because she’s mature and kind, but he loves Scarlett’s spirit and passion for life. In the book, Melanie is described as not terribly attractive, while Scarlett is supposed to be gorgeous beyond measure.
gorgeous, self centered, bitchy and two faced. What's not to love? *sniff*
PrincessA He's flattered. He secretly likes the attention which is why he won't freaking tell Scarlett that she and him will never happen.
Very shallow replies. Mitchell is highly perceptive about Ashley and Scarlett. They do love each other but they could not live together. Mitchell says as much and she is correct. One must be emotionally mature to understand this, and Mitchell was.
She was totally blind about slavery, though.
@@squares4u Scarlett is actually described as not being incredibly beautiful, but her charms were what lured people in.
You know, people always thought I was crazy when I said I didn't find her particularly admirable. Thanks to Cracked, I now know I'm not the only one to think so. =P
Director: can you do a Georgia accent?
Leslie Howard: sure . . .
Ohhh Ashley !!
ashley love scarlet but he knows that he is not match for her because they were different in character.in the end he realized that he loves melanie.but melanie is going to die.scarlet in the end realized too that the man she really like is rhett.she realized too that she dont realy like ashley.she thinks ashley will like a baby that she need to take care too.instead that ashley will take care of her.rhett is so manly and strong and always care for scarlett.but sadly rhett is already gave up on her because he thought scarlett will never loved him and rhett go away from scarlet.in the end scarlett choose not to give up on rhett and decide to find him
Ashley is bipolar. So is Scarlett and Rhett. As a matter of fact, everybody is kinda of bipolar to some extent.
How could they bear with burdens at the time? It totally makes sense all of them in war and after war were bipolar
Monique Vaughan bipolar? ahahahaha
Ơ nhưng mà Ashly đã hôn Scarlett khi anh ta đã có vợ, đây là hành động ngoại tình mà??? Hay thời xưa người ta sống thoáng vậy chứ mình xem bị giật mình luôn á, xem cut nên chưa hiểu toàn cảnh, ai giải thích cho tui vớii
Ashley is such a WIMP while Rhett is so awesome!!!!!!!!! Why Can't Scarlett be satisfied with Rhett? (who she doesn't deserve!) Oh Scarlett.....
BLTKellys and he left her in the woods in the middle of the war with a dying woman and her newborn child, continually cheated on her, and was extremely emotionally abusive. Scarlett “emotionally cheated” on Rhett with Ashley but he married her knowing she loved him, so he lashed out by actually physically cheating on her. He demonized Scarlett for not loving him back, but he was such a dick to her that I don’t even blame her. I could go on and on lol
Unfortunately people down to the Earth have such a crush for people who like to dream.
this isn't all of it.
Hey I'm a guy and my name is Ashley -------why mom why did you name me this?!!!
If Jenny is a villain, Ashley is an arch villain. Jenny at least bore Forrest's child...
I dont know what Scarlett saw in him.
She idealized her feelings for Ashley due to how much she misses her old life before the war. What she felt for him was more of an obsession due to Ashley representing everything that she lost and hoped to regain. In truth, her feelings for Ashley is just a teenage girl crush that never disappeared.
(Also, the actor in the film was a complete miscast, because in the book, Ashley is a handsome young guy.)
жаль их обоих...😢😢😢
more than that, Rhett is immature, but, yes, he has experience, if that's what you mean! :p
They don’t deserve each other - I like Ashley as a character because of all his dignity and honour but somehow I feel like they manipulate each other throughout the book
I love the way Cracked comments are always at the top of these videos within a day of the article being posted.
I dont get Scarlet she could never marry him because the Wilkes ONLY married their COUSINS and she is NOT his COUSIN
I feel like Scarlett here....💔
@ViewerMovies3001: Obviously you didn't understand the movie and the characters...
I cant see Scarlet cryies for the one who love
2:13 you fail Ashley! What a derp!
This is the best scene in GWTW. Scarlett's true love will always be Ashley, not Rhett.
Lee la novela. Scarrlett solo al final
Conprendio que no era amor.era capricho.y el verdadero amor lo dejo
Pasar. Un problema muy recurente entre
Las mujeres.
@missmuggledetector agreed. i just dont agree that he should be remembered for wanting scarletts body
Should I name my son Ashley??
I thought that was a female name.
2:13 : beware the wall hahaha
Is true 😀
Watching Gone With the Wind, especially during the aftermath of the Civil War, I totally understand why the memory of the Civil War is still so vividly alive in the South. The Confederate monuments we see in the South were a bone tossed by the North as some sort of olive branch. Hence I cringed at the SJWs of today who are trying to remove these monuments, trying to be relevant and historically significant.
la restauración del color la ha puesto ocre, marrón,sin blancos.
Scarlett-Aries
Ashley-Pisces 😂
STAP 😭😭😂😂
What's "Cracked"???
2 accents you definitely never would have heard back then
I wish Scarlett had ended up with Ashley, the man of her dreams.
@TraceurMeeka Yes she does. Cracked just proved it.
Its unfair for Scarlet doesnt be loved frm Ashley
How can a man resist her !!
This is a movie
Smh. he NEVER did . Fool. Smh. Since the first clip. Smh..
The sound and the image feel out of sync for me
1:55 - 2:38 ♥
Scarlett ne renonce jamais!
In all honesty, Scarlett really is a total bitc* and I do not know or remember ever hearing that Scatter the character has a mental disorder of any kind. Please correct me if I am wrong or if in the book it says anything about her having a mental disorder. I know she is very self centered and only cares about herself. But she lives in a marriage to Rhett who she does not ever love. She lives her life in complete bitterness and unhappiness. I know in real life the actress Vivien Leigh did have severe bioplar disorder and depression. That is not out of disrespect for her. She is an incredible amazing actress. I just mean that I feel that she was able to connect very well with Scartlett in this iconic classic role. I do not know really what kind of person Viven was but I do know that she was somehow able to her emotional stability and latch it to connect that element with Scartlett O'Hara. Just some of my thoughts
now you do really made some comments over here... ;)
i just watched the film, so what do i know...
i can understand if you think director could have made a better interpretation of the characters.
i just dont agree with many other people that rhett guy is that awesome, unless you are a really boring person with very low self-esteem
Feminist icon, right there...is it any wonder that the women's movement is so out of balance?
she's feminist icon---there's different types--has own business, plays both Ashley and Rhett, does her own thing.
That's a funny way to make me a sandwich.
Both British.
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