Uruguay was the fist country to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide in 1965. To this day, Uruguay has a large and prosperous armenian community.
Thank you, Simon. My old algebra teacher was born on a US merchant marine ship after his mother was taken on board in Lebanon. She had passed out on one of those marches in the Syrian desert and found by a man and his wife who lived in the area. They nursed her back to some semblance of health and passed her along a chain of relatives to the coast where she found berth on the American ship. I can´t bring myself to write about the things I grew up hearing growing up in Fresno, where so many surivors ended up settling. People can be so demonic.
@@johnotm and Iraqis. Many Armenians still live there and have a great love of Iraq. They took Armenians in, they were being attacked by the ottoman dogs as well.
@@wasbruda2098 you're not doing shitm You're just a sad key board warrior talking big game. Turks kept their mouths shut when we put our memorial here in Sydney. They'd get eaten if they opened it.
It's ironic that Turkey demands countries like Germany respect and pander to the Turkish minorities living in those countries but Turkey itself mistreated the minorities living in Anatolia. They even expelled thousands of Greeks to preserve the "Turkishness" of Anatolia but at the same time claim that Turks make Germany a more "diverse" country.
Political and religious extremists never had integrity and never will. You would think that even at the ends of the political spectrum people still value honesty, but they dont because if they would, they wouldnt be extremists in the first place.
One thing that has come up for me when researching the scottish side of my family is that there is an interesting mindset, comon among the more clannish folks but not limited to them, that nothing we do to anyone else comes close to what has been done to us, and therefore the wrongs WE do are negligible. Always. History becomes a game of "whataboutism".
@@rohiths9099 and thank goodness that political ship has sunk. Considering the level of automatic hostility Israel has faced- they really try hard to keep the few “allies” in their good books. Thanks to erdogan, most relations with turkey have been sabotaged- allowing the Israeli government to openly recognize the genocide of the Armenians. But hey, why be surprised if the whole world currently kissing CCP’s ass?
The whole band are descendants of genocide victims. Theyve been fighting for the admittance of the genocide since the 90's. They seem to be doing good work.
As a descendant of Armenia and the genocide, I grew up hearing the stories of what happened to my family and our people. Truly brutal and heartbreaking stories, then to look over to my great grandma who survived the genocide and what she had to do to survive. Thank you for sharing this Simon and Team. As Ellie Wiesel said, “if we forget the atrocities of the past, we will blind ourselves to the atrocities of the present.” Much Love y’all ✌️💙
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 you've copypasta'd this incomplete statement several places in this thread? Didn't know turkey had a "Democrats" if you're talking about the Americans... It's not the Democrats who try to rewrite history heh... That's literally peer reviewed fact... Poor right wingers in America... Sooo sad. Can't even man up and admit their own mistakes. Bunch of snowflakes that bunch...
@@pavlinthedentist sen imparotorlukta köle olup nasıl hala bulgarca biliyorsun asıl köle 1451-1870 yılı arası türklerdi bulgarların kaçtane veziri vardı o dönem biliyor musun üstüne üstlük asıl soykırımı bulgar rejimi yapmadımı ve de baskıyı örnek Naim Süleymanoğlu
It really is depressing that genicides not only keep happening, but are attempted to be erased. Currently there are so many genocides happening right before us in India, China and other areas. Yet, nothing happens to stop it.
Because humans are predictable animals. People delude themselves into thinking we have changed at all. We are just as savage and vile as we were 1000 years ago. And a 1000 years before that.
@@LaFonteCheVi Reminds me of the quote from Kohelet (Ecclesiastes) 1:9 "All that is, will be, and all that was done, will be done, for there is nothing new under the sun"
I am Turkish-German and my great aunt used to talk about the killings (my family used to be nomadic and live in what is today Northern Syria. Before they were expulsed by the Arab nationalists themselves). My father's cousin also had an "unusual name" which was different than what was written on official documents. I later found out that her mother was Armenian. Given the fact that my parents village lies on the road to Syria, I only had to count 1+1 together in order to actually know that the Genocide happened in a large scale and wasnt just a "limited tragedy" or whatever you hear from the propaganda.
In Greece we have many people with unusual names as well Usually is an obviously greek or Armenian surname with " - oglu " at the end , the usual explaination is that in some areas the local authorities was pressing people to take the name or the religion ...
@@Pavlos_Charalambous depends on the name I think and the region where the person came from. Surnames weren't something "normal" in the Ottoman Empire, they were only officially introduced during the Turkish Republic. The only people who really carried Surnames were Non-Muslims. I know that many officials and Private persons alike used "nick names" in order to identify families or indidividuals. The name "Papasoglu" for example, it literally means "son of the priest." There were regions where officials oppressed Christian communities, in others they mostly assimilated culturally but stayed Christian (either Greek Orthodox or Armenian Apostolic) or they were descendants of Turkic tribes who moved to the Byzantine Empire and converted to Christianity ever since. I also know of Jewish families who changed their name when they moved from Spain or Italy to the Ottoman Empire (e.g. Toledano became Hekim, Cuenca became Antebi).
@@hakanozaslan9571 am aware of that as well, there were even Turkic tribes assimilated into the Byzantine society for example the surname " Tourkopoulos " literally means " the son of the Turk " or " Turkish lad " if you like . Things often are more complicated than the official national narratives often are 😉
You’re not “Turkish-German” but a Kurdish-German, First you should stop the denial of Armenian revolts and terror which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead Turks in the Eastern provinces of the Ottoman Empire. You should accept the great treason by the Armenians against their own state during the WWI by collaborating with the invading Russian and French armies. And finally you must apologize for your lies. Only then we'll take you serious and start talking seriously.
@@DevletGM you aren't even from Turkey and you try to define my ethnic roots? 🤣 Sorry dude, family is from Gaziantep and my ancestors have been living there since they arrived from Horasan in Central Asia. And nope, not Kurdish or Arab either.
Comparative Genocide class didn't have time to cover the Hamidian Massacres. Thanks for adding to the background. Seems like prior instances of mass violence towards a people is a prerequisite to normalize genocide.
My friend teaches a course on genocide at an American museum, I believe she is a professor in the criminology department. She actualy managed to sneak me onto the basic course and it was incredibly interesting. But I must admit at times, say whilst watching men talk about what they did during the Rwandan genocide, that I wished I could reach through the screen and throttle people. You really had to know when to just take a break before it got too much.
thank you for covering this. I'm not Armenian, nor related... although maybe very far...I never were educated about it. great first introduction. hope people will pick that up and keep educating themselves. long overdue.
@@muhan6831 then obviously what China is doing to its Muslim minority. After all its against extreme groups that have killed Chinese citizens so its justified right?
The final project I did in college was a five minute podcast on the Armenian Genocide. It was difficult to find information about the genocide from reliable first hand sources. I remember opening the podcast with a quote from Adolf Hitler in reference to the Armenian genocide to justify the Holocaust. Thank you for producing this video bringing more attention to this event that is so often overlooked.
@@fusionreactor7179 no it’s not lol his quote came from his order to Wehrmacht commanders on August 22, 1939, a week before the Nazi invasion of Poland, the creator of the word genocide even said he coined that term after hearing how Jews and Armenians were being treated
@@muhan6831 I understand you are insecure about your own culture but why do you have to spread outrageous misinformation. 😂😂 Armenians were the first ethnic group to settle in the Caucasus it's physically impossible for the minority amount of Armenians to kill 3 million Turks. Just because you have no history doesn't mean you have to change other people's. I hope one day you can cleanse the jealousy inside of your soul.
As a descendant of Armenian Genocide survivors (and a big fan of all of your channels) I truly appreciate the time you took to make this video. It’s been over a century (4 generations in my family) that we have been forced to live away from our ancestral homes in the western portion of the Armenian Highlands (falsely relabeled as “eastern Anatolia” in 1941) and we still hold on to our heritage, our faith, our language, and our culture despite being forced to live away from our homes. Thanks again!
Armenians commited the circassin genocide together with their russian masters! Of course circassians were not happy with armenians in the ottoman empire
What do Armenians think of Jews and Israel? Since they under the Genocide that Muslims did to them, I think Armenians would be supporters of Israel and the Jewish people and against Muslim Terrorist GRoups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
Please can you cover the formation of Northern Ireland, and “The Troubles”? I know it’s a scary place to explore (especially with Brexit flaring issues) but I think more people need to understand the history and situation.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see it coming from an English guy (I know he doesn’t care and says what the truth is, which we all should applaud him for)
I don't know, one he did on Maori was dissappointingly inaccurate and when he got criticism he just said a real historian wrote this. It was still not accurate.
@@CashelOConnolly he used to put resources but got in trouble when one of his very old sources on an old video was turned in to something pornographic So tends to leave sources on some of the websites that are linked.
If Turkey does what Germany did that’s recognizing and apologizing for the Holocaust. Turkey would have so much to return. To Armenians, Greeks, Kurds, Assyrians. There would be no Turkey left
UK and USA tried hard to find evidence in Malta island and they could not find any. They even confess that there is no hope to find any evidence of genocide.
My Master's Thesis related heavily to the genocidal policies of the Ottomans (titled "Humanitarian Efforts of Dunsterforce"), and have to say you did a great job surmising the main points. However, there are a few points I wish you elaborated upon more. Firstly, much of the violence was left up to the discretion of provincial governments. Mehmed Reshid, the "Butcher of Diyabekir", was particularly brutal. He would hire Kurdish tribes explicitly to hunt down Armenians, divide the wealth, and eliminate the evidence (i.e burn or drown the bodies). Secondly, the Policies were not just isolated to Ottoman territory. The Persian (now Iranian) Offensive by the Ottomans during 1915/ 1916 aimed at breaking the Russians on the Caucasus Front. Many Christian Minorities (Armenians, Chalcideans, Assyrians, etc) were also targeted and murdered by Ottoman soldiers and irregular militias (with certain figures, like Shimko Shikak, assassinating key religious leaders and harassing communities like Urmia). Essentially, the conflict between ethno-religious groups spread wherever the Ottoman forces were present, such as Iran and Azerbaijan. This pushed many groups "on the fence" about the war to join the Russians in pushing the Ottomans out of Iran and deep into Anatolia itself. Russia may well have defeated the Ottomans single handedly by 1917 if they were not stopped by the Bolshevik Revolution. Thirdly, the Orphans were treated far worse than just being "orphans"... A common insult, used both now and back then, was to call these children kılıç artığı , which means "Leftovers of the Sword" in Turkish. This is akin, if not worse, than calling an African American the "N" word to their faces in terms of generational trauma. Fourthly, the conflict between Armenians and the Turks was, at the time, a subsection of a broader ethno-religious conflict. Following the Armenian situation, the Greeks also went to war against the Ottomans. When it ended in 1923, there was a population swap where Greek speaking Muslims and Turkish speaking Christians were "swapped" between countries, and were not allowed to return to their homes. Some of these empty villages exist to this day though they are isolated. Fifthly, during the fall of the Ottomans, many attempted to establish "Armenia" as its own state. When the Ottomans defeated Armenian in 1918, they melted away due to the Russian support dissipating. Armenia would eventually be divided between the Turks and the Russians in 1921 despite the Bolsheviks promising they had no ambitions to annex them. Lastly, the precedent set by the Armenian Genocide, and the ensuing political fall out in the 1920s, were direct inspirations for the Third Reich's genocidal policies on European Jews. As there was a lack-lustre international response from the international community in what was the "first" internationally recognized genocide, the Germans believed they could follow through with what had come before. What the Nazi's did was not "new", it was perfected from a system that had already existed previously. Genocide denial is an extremely important subject to call out, recognize and criticize. If we do not, then we not only set a terrible example for those that come after us, shame the sacrifice these people made to ensure this lesson could be learned, and potentially lead to worse violence in future generations.
Well written. I will just add a veryyyyy small correction the exchange of populations was between Christian and Muslim populations of Greece and Turkey , that means Turkish, Cretain Albanian and slav Muslims from Greece and Greeks , Armenians , circisians , westerners and some Christian Turkish minorities from Turkey 😉
@@Pavlos_Charalambous ah perfect! Appreciate the correction, it's extremely important to me and academia in general to get the info correct, so thank you!
@@wildmanhistory it's a detail that people often forget because the refugees in general adopted the nationalism of each host nation , for the Greek case those who wasn't Greeks was merged into to the Greek refugee populations and the local one creating in many ways a new culture in the areas that was settled 😉 An other detail of the agreement was that the populations of Eastern Thrace and Instabul was to not to be exchanged , although how that worked out is a different story..
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as a turkish person it is difficult for me to find an objective and true information because you can guess our "history books" dont cover this case like this im no denial in Armenian genocide and even my family members trying to deny it which disturbs me a lot so it is really nice for you to share your research like this i hope one day my country accepts and owns its terrible crimes against Armenians❤❤
They were taught the falsified history of Turkey. I had a Turkish friend who was saying that Greeks, Armenians and Iranians invaded Turkey and stole from them.
As an Armenian and a long time fan of all your channels (even before becoming an OGBB), I really appreciate this episode and you using your platform and your voice to talk about an issue that's not talked about as much as it should be with a lot of fabrication and falsification that comes from the side of the perpetrator. Thank you for making it a point to mention the "memorial" in Turkey that solidifies the aforementioned falsification as well. Great summary, suits the high standard you've taught fans of your channels to come to expect.
It never happened. They were casualties of war like many people of different nationalities during WW1. Armenians chose to be allies with enemies of Ottomans hence why Ottomans responded against the enemy during a time when Armenians were sabotaging for the British Empire. It is just another fraud to get reparations at UN just like their fraud schemes in the US. If not, other nationalities fared much worse during WW1 than Armenians.
@@jacqueslee2592 Thank you for proving my point regarding falsification. I appreciate your contribution to the cause, together we'll get the genocide recognized and the souls of the innocent will finally be able to rest in peace.
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 I read that Cenk Uygur doesn't deny the Armenian Genocide anymore, but still...the name for his talk show "The Young Turks" is a slap in the face to Armenians. Jön Türkler or Genç Türkler (The Young Turks) was the name of the political group that massacred Armenians under the guise of the "Committee of Union and Progress."
@@itsmaam742 I am a Christian. I am not a Democrat, but I am not a Republican or a conservative either. To me, conservative politics don't resonate with Jesus' teachings of non-judgment and caring for and walking with the poor and downtrodden. RUclips comments are really not the place for an argument on the matter, so I want to suggest we stop here and consider the other's point of view by looking up articles from the others' perspective and talking and listening to people in our lives who don't have the same view as we do. We can all learn from each other, but lets do it locally instead of devolving into RUclips comment arguments. It's difficult to continue a civil conversation virtually, and, its great to strengthen ties with our local communities even when we disagree with others on certain topics. Not that you've argued with me! I just worry about how these things end up going! I looked up more about Cenk Uygur because of you, so thanks for sharing and giving me an opportunity to be openminded to new facts and ideas. God bless!
@@marcusg.2910 conservative politics don't resonate with Jesus teaching? Dude, Dems do not like christians. what about abortion? maybe your still in college and dont really get the real world or how politics really are
I was a pen pal with a Turkish fellow years ago. It's amazing how much talking about this triggered him what was at the time eight decades after the fact. Thank you for sharing this!
It's ironic that Turkey demands countries like Germany respect and pander to the Turkish minorities living in those countries but Turkey itself mistreated the minorities living in Anatolia. They even expelled thousands of Greeks to preserve the "Turkishness" of Anatolia but at the same time claim that Turks make Germany a more "diverse" country.
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
Turkey's official stance in the matter has always been and still is a sign of weakness and fear. Fear of what it would mean when they admit what everyone already knows. A fear that has no basis in reality.
it's not fear or weakness. It's contempt and disdain for the Armenians (and pontic and smyrna Greeks) and the international world, and the absolute non-presence of any feeling of responsibility for their own actions because no one ever held them accountable for anything. The same rotten organisations and countries that turned the Germans into a backward guilt-ridden people after world war 2, failed to ever hold the Turks (and the Kurds for that matter) accountable for these mass killings, and actively prevented anyone from doing so, because of NATO-interests. It's beyond sad.
@@ericvosselmans5657 Of course they show contempt to minorities, in an official capacity at the very least, but I firmly believe that they are frightened to admit wrongdoing. We didn't call the Ottoman empire a 'clay legged giant' for no reason...
Turkey is afraid of the consequences if they recognize the genocide. The Turkish government certainly have to pay reparations to Armenia and Greece. Turks don't want another headache. Much more now, Turkey's economy is in a tailspin! The Turkish economy is stagnating since last year
@@armandotalampas4800 The reason Turkey doesn´t and will not accept any responsibility is, due to both Greeks and Armenians doing the same thing to the Turks, that we get accused of doing to them. Crete, Thessaloniki, Yerevan, Stepanakert were places with each 40% turkic populations, they all were killed or deported in much the same manner. The conflict also didn´t start randomly with Turks doing this, it started with the Greek revolution of 1821, way way before the Turks committed any of the supposed crimes. Turks don´t claim innocence, surely people died, we do not deny the deaths. We deny causation, big big big difference, which is often overlooked. Also, this topic is always fed through the biased lense of armenians who are emotionally invested in this, to reach a consensus you need to listen to both sides, as history is not black and white. Greece and Armenia are ethnically homogenous, I wonder what happened to all minorities in those countries, while in Turkey the people still exist, next to my village is an armenian one, next to that a circassian one. Also. if the Genocides were so bad then how did so many Armenians and Greeks escape from the desert to land in america a nation on the other side of the world. As stated before, I do NOT deny human tragedy and loss of life, I simply am adding that the causation wasn´t ethnic cleansing and that we ourselves have suffered at the hands of armenians, just as much as they claim they have from us. P.S If you want someone to blame for atrocities, the kurds were actually the forces that did the crimes, as all turkish soldiers were at one of the 4 fronts, just a side note for you. This is also why there was a demographic shift in eastern provinces where mostly armenians lived, now live mostly Kurds, I wonder why, hmmm.
4 weeks ago I made a comment on your channel asking to cover this, and I just see this video. Not sure if my comment had any effect or not, but as an Armenian subscriber thank you Simon for covering this.
In a dark sense, it's ironic... Turkey lashed out at Armenia, it's culture, and the Armenian race in some violent death rattle as the empire collapsed. It's a fairly good example of an old Armenian proverb, "A drowning man will clutch at straws."
How ironic. Now we are independent state and not a mere puppet of other world countries and the ones who rebelled are just a satellite to russia and slave to their hatred...
Lately I've seen comments about how accepting the ottomans were and how they allowed Christians and Jews to practice their faith freely and safely. But i never get a reply when i comment "what about the Armenian Genocide". In their position I'd stfu too.
When Hitler invaded Poland on Sept 1st, 1939 had a meeting 2 weeks before this event, on Sept 20th during this event he pointed out that his SS Troops had been given orders to Kill every Man, Woman, and Child of Polish Blood. He made a statement "Who Remembers The Armenians?"
What you have written is not based on any genuine evidence. What you are referring to is a document that purports to be the record of an address made by Hitler to his military leaders shortly before the invasion of Poland in 1939. The address was made on 22 August 1939, and we know what Hitler said because a number of those present made notes that have been preserved. In none of those preserved notes does Hitler make any reference whatever to the Armenians. Furthermore, in that address, Hitler made no reference to the Jews either. The purpose of his address was to tell the military leaders what he saw as the essential aim of the invasion, which was to destroy the military power of Poland. What you are thinking of is a falsified version of what Hitler said at the meeting, a version that was handed over to the British Government during the war by an American journalist, Louis Lochner, and published by the British as wartime propaganda. From 1924 to 1942, Lochner was head of the Berlin Bureau of the Associated Press, and he reported on the German invasion of Poland. After Germany declared war on the United states he was interned, but was released in 1942. After the war, he presented a document to the International Military Tribunal containing his version of Hitler’s address of 22 August 1939, but it was rejected as not genuine; because its origin could not be verified. Lochner was not able to say how he got the document he was holding. Two genuine records of Hitler’s address were found at the end of the war among seized German documents, and these were used as evidence. Neither of those documents contains any reference to the Armenians. The claimed reference to the Armenians occurs only in the falsified version held by Lochner. Historians think that Lochner obtained at Transcript of Hitler’s address from one of the participants at the meeting, most probably Canaris, and rewrote it to make it more brutal. For example, in the genuine versions of Hitler’s speech, he says that the aim is to destroy the enemy forces; in Lochner’s version, those words are falsified to be an order to kill all Poles, men, women and children, without pity. You can read a translation of the genuine version of Hitler’s speech here: reader.library.cornell.edu/docviewer/digital?id=nur%3A00458#mode%2F1up If you can read German, you could have a look at this official version of Hitler’s speech, contained in the official war diary kept by Halder.www.ns-archiv.de/krieg/1939/22-08-1939-halder.php The part falsified by Lochner is this one: II.) Forderungen des Führers an die militärischen Führer.
@@DevletGM I am Turkish and welcome to "our side". Since you did excellent and non-biased work and proved Hitler didnt say such thing, even you believe Armenian relocation was genocide, everyone will still hate you and blame you of being Turkish.
Great thing that the Armenian genocide is becoming a more well known event. On a similar note, you shold do a video covering the Greek genocide, as more than 500,000 Greeks of Anatolia, Asia Minor's shoreline and the Black Sea suffered the same fate as the Armenians, plus forced labour death-camps, just like in WW2 Germany. These actions of the Ottoman/Turkish state led to the death or deportation of the Greeks of Asia Minor. Those people had lived there since 1100 BC, suffered greatly when the Ottoman appeared, all the way until they were finally exterminated or expelled. Some excellent novels have been written on the subject, from people that saw first-hand the destruction and escaped the slaughter. Some of them are: "The Number 31328" by Ilias Venezis, "Matomena Chomata" (Land drenched in blood) by Dido Sotiriou and "The Testament Of Ionia" by Filio Chaidemenou. Must-reads for everyone, highly recommended.
Assyrians as well! I feel like people fail to realize that it wasn’t just us Armenians that were targeted. Millions of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians died at the hands of the Ottomans.
My great grandma was an Armenian born in turkey in 1906. Thank you. The fact that so many people don't acknowledge that this happened (and that so many Americans don't even know what Armenia is) blows my mind. It's offensive how much this is swept under the rug
A very tragic story😶. One thing is for sure - Turkey will never officially recognise it. The incompetent Enver Pasha had to try find a way to cover his ass for the disastrous loss at Sarikamish, and he latched onto the Armenian angle. What a coward…
Parts of Armenia were kept being chipped away, latest last summer by Azerbaijan. And those left behind in those territories were always forced to move, sooner or later, leaving their ancestral lands. Also can't not leave without mentioning that Israel does not recognize the Armenian genocide, despite to the connections to their own. And even more, they were continuing to supply Azerbaijan during this latest war.
Really want that Armenia grossly overstated its own and understated the military strength of Azerbaijan, leading to a military debacle on there said, all this by the way has nothing to do with the genocide
@@mkoschier Guessing English is not a language you know well, considering how little sense you made with that comment, but assuming you meant to say that during the latest Azerbaijan-Armenian war, then there was some ethnic cleansing during and after that war by Azerbaijani troops, yet not exactly on genocidal scale (that event alone). Nor I stated that. What I did say was that Armenians are continuously being pushed out of their native lands. Which also happened during/after that war.
@@IlmarKiisk I laughed a lot against your fake comment Azerbaijani soldiers did nothing there, they just prepared a link for Karabakh While saying this, the Turkish section living there and the border villages raided and killed the Turks. and deliberate artillery. causing 100 deaths in cities Why did you ignore Armenia? Or do you know that in the 90s, with the help of the new Russian government, thousands of people were killed and children were skinned?
@@0816M3RC Chimps are the best example. They even use some of the tactics humans employ. Its funny cohencidence the tact is referred to as guerilla warfare. Yet its human and chimps, not gorillas that use this tactic. I know its of Spanish origin, not after the primate. Plus Chimp Warfare don't sounds right.
This will be a personal one to me; some of my ancestors sought refuge here in England at the time, and we may well have been directly affected by the genocide. Some of us were Armenians, the rest Palestinians - as for those who were connected to both sides, and had to endure both this and the Nakba of 1948, I have no idea how they must have felt. I hope I never have to find out for myself what that is like.
I did a report on this in High School, my partner and I went on to have the paper published in the school newspaper because of the fact no one really knew about it other than us because his grandparents had lived through it. Sad times, truly a tragedy.
That sucha. Lie, the balkans were all Christian were they not… now they are. Jumbled mess of religious conflict because ottomans brought Islam into the mix.
Been talking to this cute Armenian girl and we were making plans for dinner So Iasked her if she'd like to go to this Turkish restaurant and she responded with a link to the Wikipedia page for the Armenian genocide
In 2016 the current President of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, declared that his country will never accept what happened to the Armenians as genocide. Members of the german parliament from turkish descendence who voted for a declaration that said exactly this were designated by him as terrorists and traitors and he recommended their blood to be examined because they can not truly belong to the turkish people. I have no clue what to say about that but I think they are truly courageous and as they all have German citizenship I am delighted to call them compatriots. „The Herero Genocide“ would be a good topic for another great videos on this channel, btw.
I can't hear, read, or learn anything about the Armenian Genocide without being reminded of the song P.L.U.C.K by System of a Down, its actually quite a lyrically powerful song
My very first boss when I was 14 in 1994 was an elderly Armenian man. He told me he was given the name the Puma when he was in the Armenian military. What I wouldn't do to ask him questions about this and his life because it's very clear to me now that he had to have lived through this 😢 as a child. He was a sweet Wonderful man who looked like he had seen some shit for sure.
One correction: while the term genocide has been most connected to the Holocaust and thus systematic mass murder (Raphael Lemkin being Jewish himself) he believed the creation of the term necessary not because of the many mass killings in the 20th C per se but because of what some of them were meant to do: destroy a people. And he made clear in his writings that while in many cases this of course has included the killing of individuals as part of a larger whole, this is almost always accompanied by other methods and genocide could occur without that. The important factor is not the death count, though those alone are tragedies of the highest order, but the attempt to destroy a people as a whole with their language, customs, works, and “soul”, which can occur in any number of ways-many of which were deliberately omitted when it was crafted into international law by nations uncomfortable with their own pasts and presents. In his 1953 speech on the Holodomor as part of a wider Ukrainian genocide he even states that if a genocide were carried out without any individual suffering we would be required to condemn it as among the worst of crimes. The primary focus on death makes sense, but it’s also something deniers of nearly every genocide seize on to create false doubt. The other aspect deniers focus on that Lemkin made clear in his writings was that intent in genocide can be read by behaviours, it need not be found as an explicit order in writing. It’s unfortunate that his works and words are rarely read or even mentioned in most history classes that cover genocides, even at university level.
The exodus of Jews from Arab/Muslim countries that took place during and after the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 can be considered a "genocide" of sorts, even if only a few here and there in those lands were actually killed. It was no less than a cultural genocide and it was every bit as catastrophic for them as the Holocaust was for European Jews, the Ottoman-orchestrated genocide was for Armenians and other Christians, etc., but it's far less discussed than certainly the Holocaust and even the Armenian Genocide.
Under this definition, the othering of a certain group/sex of people in developed nations would fit. As the Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association put it: "x"-ness is a disease. Coca-Cola has training telling their employees to "be less X". The Salvation Army has "apologized for our X-ness". Academia refuses to allow these people to become professors without jumping through hoops, and large corporations (Hollywood, Amazon) are literally rewriting their historical figures by substituting them with other ethnicities. The Associated Press has issued writing guidelines to refer to these people with a lower case while referring to all other groups with capitalization. To bring this up however will see myriad "ism" pejoratives hurled at you.
@@yodorob Yes and so can what China has been doing to Tibet. Sure, there might not have been significant numbers of deaths and violence, but the Tibetan culture was being eradicated through a variety of measures.
@@wezzuh2482 Uyghurs as well comes to mind, China is very explicit about its intentions of erasing their cultural identity and religion. Other examples of cultural Genocides are most notable for examples like West Papua, Native Americans and Indigenous Australians.
Careful Simon, you've just triggered every Turkish nationalist with this topic. Of course even President (for Life) Erdogan falls squarely into that category to his nation's everlasting disgrace. Turkey was a great country when I was there 15 years ago. Now, I wouldn't spend a dollar helping a regional bad actor.
The EU loves him ! They pay him 6 billion Euros to stop immigrants from getting into Europe . ( They would build a wall but unfortunately even by their standards that might be just TOO hypocritical - after their criticism of Trump . )
@@2msvalkyrie529 Ah, yes the EU is hypocritical for not building a wall. But the USA building a wall are not? It's not like Reagan made a speech shaming the Russians for building the Berlin Wall in 1987...Oh, wait, actually, he did... Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby?
@@adrien5834 First off, think you missed his point entirely... Second of all, did you just compare the Berlin Wall to Trump's stupid wall? It'd be comparable if Trump's wall was meant to divide a single, pre-existing city (inside a preexisting country) in half... but 2 separate countries having walls along their borders is nothing new. Walls splitting a single country in half, are not normal, and walls dividing a single city in half are even more rare. One of the few places that even still happens (and to a much lesser degree) is Jerusalem, with a wall dividing Eastern Jerusalem & the Palestinian side... and even that is to break up 2 ethnicities Jews/Palestinians. Berlin Wall breaking up Germans from other Germans, due to an outside country's decision (USSR) was worse (way more guarded & far more fatalities trying to cross). Anyway, the original post you responded to said the EU would be hypocrites if they built a wall to block immigration after bashing Trump for doing the same just years earlier. Trump building a wall to keep out illegal immigrants 35-40 years after Regan talked about brining down a wall dividing a city composed of the same families (within the same former country) isn't hypocrisy... Trump did a TON of hypocritical things, especially when you looked at what he criticized Obama for when Obama was still president, but building a wall isn't one of them (though it was a stupid waste of money anyway).
@@corey2232 Of course I've missed his fucking point, he doesn't have one, and neither do you, because, and this will blow your mind, East Germany and West Germany were, in fact, two different countries, so I've no idea where you are going with this. I've also no idea why you're wasting your time trying to explain this idiot's stupid post, but hey, it's your life.
Thank you for this. My childhood friend's grandmother survived the genocide and flew to my country to be safe. Her Armenian relatives told her they would send her a picture. If they were up, it meant it was safe to come back. If they were sitting down, it would mean the situation was terrible and she should stay there for her own safety. She received the picture where they were laying on the ground. The situation was horrible for Armenians. I'll always remember this story. Many Armenians took refuge in my country in that city and I still can't believe people and government would go to such effort to lie and be in denial and protect their ego and History like that.
@@thechosenone1533 Possibly. The mother of my friend went back to Armenia some years ago and managed to find some friends and members of her mother all these years ago.
It shocks me when turkey is a big supporter for palestine and condemning israel for genocide, but then they forget in history they commited genocide on armenians, pontic greeks and assyrians.
Dude ur comment is so funny u cant change past many countries made worst things because of stupid goverments and some dmb sht speech.I didnt see any european knows some turks burned by greek and armenians too all was dumbest things for me.
But ik i am smarter than you guys i know 4 language and watching all european historical videos u guys are just hating turks because of ottomans but i cant understand how all european people know ottoman but dont know the Ataturk Lol Also race is not exist for me we all are made by atoms
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 Stop being easily duped(I know that's *_EXTREMELY_* hard for you to do by your (mis)information, propaganda mouth piece that you call (faux) "news"🤦♂️🤣😂
@@jonhall2274 Yet you refute no claims, you just resort to the Leftist methodology of insulting people, and indirectly bringing up your Great Satan, Rupert Murdoch. Cenk is well known as a hard-Left shill, even outside the US.
@@itsmaam742 you're wrong, everyone knows that it happened. All of the people at TYT have admitted it happened. You should read newer articles. Positive vibes from New Hampshire, remember to be kind to each other and yourself during this pandemic and social crisis
so uruguay is $$hit country it seems. Accepting one sided story is fair what do you think? Do you heard armenian tashnak hincak gangs? What they did in anatolia with help from russia and west? While Turks are under attack from western coalition armenian and greeks from inside attacked Turks for destroy whole Turks This was real genocide attempt we defend ourselves. Yall tried real genocide against Turks but its failed. West hates Turks because we doesnt fit to their agenda because always Turks stand up against them for a thousand year even Turks fought back agains crusader all the time so ı understand this pain from this west. Armenians arent saint or innocent. They tried build greater armenia with western support and promises but we didnt let them. Westerners are biased people mind with their one sided stories. Westerners and russians provoked armenians against Turks this two sided war not genocide was your fault. While ottomans collapse with promises from armenians see this as a opportunity for create greater armenia and they start killing Turks Armenians killing villagers and attack Turks joining invading forces but Turks shouldnt protect themselves?
Your audacity is indeed impressive. Well done Simon and the whole team of the channel. As a descedant of Asia Minor Greeks I can understand what you are talking about. Well done
Driving into SF there was always a banner on Treasure Island midway through the Bay Bridge that said "RECOGNIZE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE." Was always very powerful.
Armenians are very resilient people. They were victims of horrendous acts of artocities but still preserved their identity and many of them made significant contribution to science, technology and literature. Just like Armenian genocide, the Bangladesh genocide of 1971 is also ignored by everyone!
Thank you 🙏 for this video. Most of my own grandfather’s family was murdered in the 1915 genocide. He and his only surviving brother were hidden away. At 2-3 years old they were orphaned and had lost their identities. As a result, I don’t have a real last name. My father and his siblings grew up with made up names. Genocide cut out their roots! Armenians if revolted it was due to for our own native lands and the lies and oppressive conditions by the Sultan and the Young Turks. They ultimately broke trust between our people.
Armenians broke the trust first by killing the turks in the lands that russian empire gained throughout the war. I dont defend what happend but you cant just talk about this without mentioning the turks that were killed by armenians
I've been kind of stuck reading up on the Circassian Genocide as well in the latter half of the 19th Century. All part of Imperial Russia's expansion into the Caucus Region.
Turkey's refusal to acknowledge the horrors they have committed has meant they continue to commit crimes against humanity today, eg. their invasion and occupation of northern Cyprus and their persecution of the Kurds.
Don’t forget the Alevis (the Sivas Massacre, for example) and the Greek/Turkey “population exchange” after WW2 and them burning down Smyrna (now İzmir).
@@TheBLGL Greek Turkey exchange was not our choice it was what the entente wanted and secondly why should we burn the city we just reconquered? Makes no sense
As an Armenian going to school in Los Angeles I would be so confused why they talked so much about the Holocaust but only had a small paragraph about the Armenian genocide. As I got older I realized the textbooks we've been reading in schools have all been funded by Turkish interest groups in the United States to spread their own propaganda....this taught me at an early stage to question everything historical and to always look at both sides...a famous quote can't remember who said it said...."history is written by the victors."
I had always thought it was because Simon and Schuster were Jewish, so they delve more into the Holocaust, but you've got a point that it seems all of the history textbooks are like that.
My great grandma was a survivor of the death marches, and my great grandpa left Armenia as a refugee but went back to fight Turkish forces with the Foreign Legion
I am a Muslim. My profound apologies for the past crimes of the ottomans and the on going crimes of the neo ottomans. May God bless my Armenian brethren.
@@cazwalt9013 unfortunately humanity has lost the capacity to think and the ability to distinguish between good and evil. The lord god is just and there will be justice done, if not in this world most certainly in the next. May god have mercy on all the victims of oppression.
These idiots do not know history, why did this kick off? Because armenian communists believed in russian lies and were tricked into rebellions. How many turks died?
As a Greek-American, I grieve for the Armenian victims of the Turkish genocide. Let no one forget, at that point in history, the Turks had victimized and slaughtered other Ethnic people. Principal of which is the genocide of the Pontic peoples living on the shores of he Black Sea. Also, but more egregious, was the murder, depopulation, and expulsion of Ethnic Greeks living on the shores of Asia Minor. One city, Smirny, was ethnically cleansed of all Greek-speaking peoples who had lived on the shores for the last 2500 years. English and French ships witnessed the slaughter and did absolutely nothing. 200,000 Greek-speaking people were murdered. The rest were expelled from Asia Minor. ... Now there's a story for you, Simon.
Yes, Sir Simon Whistler, please feature also the Greek genocide and the Asia Minor catastrophe. People need to know about the War crimes and atrocities Turks committed in the same period. 300,000 Assyrians were also butchered by Turkey
Ahahaha you guys are just pathetic, you guys think ottoman empire slaughtered all ethnic groups in its own territory guess what ottomans ruled nearly all balkans and greek regions for centuries but neither of these balkan countryies or greeks speak turkish but france and britain colonized africa for just like 200-300 years and all of that african countries are speaking french-english and if you think they murdered millions in africa but you greeks or armenians or all europe never talk about this yet europe still tkaes money from african goverments but still pretends like an Angel and no one talk about that shit or you guys begging germany for money(turkey too) but you guys never blame or talk about jewish genocide or americans you said you are half american right?they murdered millions of American indians but no one blame or talk about that too as i said you guys are pathetic most of the people like you just racist to turks,you guys dont give a shit about armenians or genocide you guys just hate turkey and searching something to blame about (im turkish yes but im not nationalist but people like you making me mad as i said you dont care about armenians you are just hate turkey) and you said about pontic or whatever those shit look you are just saying turks slaughtered greek speaking areas but dou you have any proof or document you are just speaking like that those you said problably never happened (if course some people died at wars or something but never they said like oooo im bored let go kill some greek ) fucking history
Once upon a time I had a patient who was a survivor of this genocide. She did speak english but she had dementia and sometimes her brain would go back to those days, so guess who she thought we were when we were all speaking English (orbmore simply NOT her mother tongue) you cant calm or redirect that when its your language being a trigger in that moment. She would completely forget all her English and get extremely violent. I can't imagine what terrifying reality her brain was crafting in those moments. What horrors she was forced to relive. I will never forget that woman for as long as I live. Dementia can be so fucking cruel.
Wow I already loved you and your channel but covering something so close to my heart as an American Armenian. Growing up in late 90s and being a fan of the OG History channel, I wouldn’t in my wildest dreams have thought The Armenian Genocide would be discussed/recognized by such respectful far reaching channels such as yours Simon. Much Respect to you for all your work giving us true entertaining media in the age of mindless TikTok 🌸 💜
Just a suggestion ; if you're really interested in the Armenian Genocide maybe you could go to the effort of doing some research yourself ? Plenty of source material available . Then again : maybe a 15 minute Y T video is all your brain can cope with ?
@@2msvalkyrie529 lol I’m Armenian and Greek I think I know my fair share 🙉 lover …go be a negative YT commenter somewhere else …because you’re a sad little person who’s got nothing better to do
@@2msvalkyrie529 Read the comment man. They are just thanking Into the Shadows for acknowledging the genocide, is a single sentence all your brain can cope with?
As an Armenian, thank you for covering this. I get so exhausted of turks and Azerbaijanis trying to justify murdering my ancestors. That's the part that makes me sick today, when they say we deserve it and proudly say they will do it again.
Maybe the Turks want what happened to them recognized first. In the Balkans for example. (1912-1914) Do you find that "heartbreaking" as well? Or when it's the Turks you don't care? Or... Did you even ever hear of it? 5 million Turks living in the Balkans. 3 million killed by the Christians. The remaining 2 million civilians deported.
@@James-rf1wn They do this in Syria, there is war in Ukraine, there is war in the Middle East, millions of estimated 10 million refugees come to my country, some of them are shot while trying to escape to Greece. they don't care, a couple of children with blond hair are crying, they are doing their best, then after a war the Turks deport the Armenians, the Armenians are starving, they say genocide but they comment. Ignoring that the Anatolian people are hungry, have maggots in their stomachs and are about to die of hunger, these events bring Turkey closer to the east. But you are right
Simon thank you so much, for covering such an important historical event. Suggestion for another video: "the years of lead" in Italy. I recently found out about it (I was born in the 90s) and I find it very interesting, as I bet many of your other viewers would as well.
I had an Armenian American coworker, and he was 5 years younger than me (66), and he had horror stories of his paternal grandparents' escape from this nightmare. His family hates Turks with a passion.
Thank you for this. Genuinely. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone go to such great detail with the background of my ancestors and the events leading up to the genocide as well as all the motivations and smaller “justifications” along the way. This is a necessary video and should be shown in schools along with other Genocide education. My own family history stops at 1915. My great grandfather refused to talk to us about anything. Even changed his last name to assimilate into the culture of Fresno, CA and hide. No one in my family even speaks the language anymore because he refused to teach my grandparents. I’m a scientist and I’m too scared to take a DNA test because I’m worried I’ll find Turkish DNA… which we all know how that would’ve gotten there. It pains me to even think about
Look at a population distribution heat map of Armenians, Pontic Greeks and Assyrians around end of the 19th century and then compare with today. Obviously something happened to them.
Look at the demographics in Greece and Armenia of Turkish populations and compare them with today, big big difference. Just for your information during the 1990´s Karabakh war around a million azerbaijani turks were cleansed of their home, this wasn´t the first time either. Yerevan was majority Azerbaijani at the start of the 1900´s
@@adidoki At no point in history there were million people in Karabakh, let alone million Azeris. At most there were 600K Azeris and Kurds combined. Also the same can be said about 500K Armenians in Azerbaijan who got brutally pogromed by Azeri/Turkish nationalists Before the war even started. For example, Baku used to be 40% Armenian by the end of 1900s. I'm not even gonna mention that cities, such as Khojalu, Shushi, Jebrail, etc. were majority Armenian until they were deported or massacred by invading hoards and Persian shahs.
@@adidoki The majority of the population living in Artsakh/Karabagh were Armenians that is 90% of the population... The Azeris were mostly living in Susha/shushi and Agdam ... The hundreds of thousands of Azeris exiled were from Soviet Armenia during the Karabagh war , The same thing happened to Armenians living Soviet Azerbaijan ...
@@adidoki The majority of the population living in Artsakh/Karabakh were Armenians that is 90% of the population... The Azeris were mostly living in Susha/Sushi and Aghdam. The hundreds of thousands of Azeris exiled you talk about were from Soviet Armenia during the Karabakh war , The same thing happened to Armenians living Soviet Azerbaijan .
@@adidoki The majority of the population living in Artsakh/Karabagh were Armenians that is 90% of the population... The Azeris were mostly living in Susha/Sushi and Aghdam ... The hundreds of thousands of Azeris exiled you talk about were from Soviet Armenia during the Karabagh war , The same thing happened to Armenians living Soviet Azerbaijan ...
As a Turk, im on the edge when it comes to 1915 tbh. If i consider the incident as a Turk, obvious that Turkey would’ve no chance to win the independence war. Turkey fought on one front (western) due to relocation. But on the other hand, a whole nation relocated to a desert.. Im a Bulgarian Turk whose family migrated to Turkey during f*ckin’ dictator Zhivkov’s era. So i do know how it feels. But one for sure, i hate how politicians trying to gain political influence over Turkey admitting a nation’s trauma. It’s so vile and disgusting. Only Turkey and Armenia can overcome. I feel like relocation was “whatever it takes” policy. If Armenian people want Turkey to recognize the incident as genocide, we have to. We owe them a deep/honest apology
You think the Armenian genocide is going to be rough to deal with Well I’m an Iranian Azerbaijani and the army of Islam tried to annex Iranian Azerbaijan the leader of Iranian Azerbaijan started guerrilla warfare against army of Islam we lost Tabriz for months and Nuri pasha put the rest of Iranian Azerbaijan through a famen in an attempt to annex us but here is the catch 22 the British empire didn’t allow us into the paris conference in an attempt to cover their ass for what they them self did so the Persian genocide during WW1 by Russia Britain and ottoman is covered up in a shit tone of crap
My Turkish Armenian grandfather had 4 of his 7 brothers killed by the Turks. Another was smuggled out of the country in a wagonload of dead bodies (he could never talk about this without crying) & the sixth brother presumably died when he was sent off on a forced march into the wilderness with nothing but the clothes on his back. All of his family's lands, wealth & possessions were confiscated. My grandfather & the remaining brother managed to escape to the US to establish themselves & move the rest of the family here. However, when it was time to send for his family, there was no one left to send for.
Thank you for making this video. My grandmother fled the genocide and she was the only one left in her family afterwards. Through hard work and perseverance she made it to the US and my family lives on with pride as Armenians. Stay strong.
I was in Armenia earlier this year and visited the holocaust museum, it's a harrowing story that I hadn't been aware of and you didn't mention the fire of Smyrna which was the ghettoing and then burning of a whole city of Armenians, up to 100,000 of them. Many of the visitors were tourists, although there were lots of Armenians leaving tributes by the flame that I presume lost family members in the genocide and were clearly emotional, but the tourist element were largely Russian, all looking very concerned whilst Russia is arming Azerbaijan in the border conflict and their motherland, having already conducted their own genocide in Ukraine, the Holodomor, were once again slaughtering Ukrainian civilians with their, "special military operation" We often see these things as historical anomalies but they continue today conducted by despotic leaders and with the tacit support of their citizens.
Thank you Simon. My grandfather came to America in 1914, just before things got really bad. He intended to become a doctor and return, but of course there was nothing to go back to.
Thank you for this. Although I am not Armenian, their genocide coincided with 3 others in the Ottoman Empire perpetrated by the the Turks as well: Sayfo (Assyrian Genocide), Pontic Greeks Genocide, and the Kafno (Mount Lebanon Famine, the targets were mainly the Maronite Catholics). I'm a Maronite and wish to point all of this out. The Ottomans were evil rulers towards the end of their reign.
You should do an episode on the Nanking Massacre, not a genocide in the "traditional" sense since the number killed is only a drop in the bucket for the greater Chinese population, but the amount of Chinese people senselessly killed by the Japanese Imperial Occupational Forces was still quite staggering. And like the Turkic government, the Japanese government still, to this day, refuse to acknowledge this event ever happened, going so far as to accuse the Chinese government of making up a fantasy tragedy despite the hundreds of foreign journalists, priests, and businessmen who witnessed the event. I believe that, at least according to some Japanese friends of mine, that Japanese history classes in school teaches that Japan only attacked China in response to a senseless slaughtering of Japanese nationals in Shanghai and that the occupational forces were "welcomed with open arms" by the repressed and enslaved Chinese people.
hi i am a japanese. as you mention, i believe there was a massive killing in nanjing. but the number just doesn't add up. can not kill more people than the population of city back then. i do believe most japanese people will accept there was a mass killing. but it can not be like 200,000 or more. japanese schools are garbage. forget about those. no japanese trust school class anymore. i am not making up this. there is a reason why japanese school became so fake. asian school are basically all fake or delusional about many things. this includes universities. but most people are kind of aware of the situation.
Uruguay was the fist country to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide in 1965. To this day, Uruguay has a large and prosperous armenian community.
I imagine Turkey 🇹🇷 was not happy with Uruguay.
@@itsblitz4437 Who gives a shit?
@@itsblitz4437 I bet their just shitting the bed thinking about what turkey could possibly do to a small country half way across the globe
@@problems3485 well that was the joke. Genius.
@@itsblitz4437 I was going along with it
Thank you, Simon. My old algebra teacher was born on a US merchant marine ship after his mother was taken on board in Lebanon. She had passed out on one of those marches in the Syrian desert and found by a man and his wife who lived in the area. They nursed her back to some semblance of health and passed her along a chain of relatives to the coast where she found berth on the American ship. I can´t bring myself to write about the things I grew up hearing growing up in Fresno, where so many surivors ended up settling. People can be so demonic.
I’m glad you and your mother made it. I hope you live a long and prosperous life friend
@@dragonfistotto9201 It was my math teacher😀 And he did, he did.
And may we not forget the kindness of Syrians
@@johnotm Absolutely!
@@johnotm and Iraqis. Many Armenians still live there and have a great love of Iraq. They took Armenians in, they were being attacked by the ottoman dogs as well.
As a Greek, I outstretch my love to my brothers and sisters of Armenia. May Greece stand with you, now and forever! 🇦🇲 🇬🇷
My great-grandparents survived the Armenian genocide and found refuge in Athens Greece, my grandfather was born in Greece.
Thank you my brother.
We love our Greek brothers and sisters and will always stand by and support Greece forever!!! 🇦🇲❤️🇬🇷
🇹🇷👌🇹🇷👌🇹🇷👌🇹🇷
@@turkoglu5177 go back to Mongolia
The Turks also committed Genocide against the Assyrians and pontic Greeks.Turkey needs to recognise the Genocide and quit trying to reinvent history.
Thats true indeed.
nawww dont cry
@@wasbruda2098 EAD dogg
@@paulw3747 no bro we are eating little children dont u know that?
@@wasbruda2098 you're not doing shitm
You're just a sad key board warrior talking big game.
Turks kept their mouths shut when we put our memorial here in Sydney.
They'd get eaten if they opened it.
Get ready for the Turks trying to frantically defend this
Yes, and most importantly , denying and downplaying it.
Im a turk and wont defend it! Only the islamists and nationalists will defend it with their lives!
I was looking in the comments for one but haven’t found it yet, shockingly.
Sadly there's at least one already.
@@TheBLGL They are all on the Young Turks channel anyhow...
It's ironic that Turkey demands countries like Germany respect and pander to the Turkish minorities living in those countries but Turkey itself mistreated the minorities living in Anatolia. They even expelled thousands of Greeks to preserve the "Turkishness" of Anatolia but at the same time claim that Turks make Germany a more "diverse" country.
Political and religious extremists never had integrity and never will. You would think that even at the ends of the political spectrum people still value honesty, but they dont because if they would, they wouldnt be extremists in the first place.
Yes, the Greeks were not diverse enough, for a homogenous Ottoman empire. Please, feel free to bitterly laugh in irony...
Talk about the jews. Even Israel doesn't recognise the Armenian genocide
One thing that has come up for me when researching the scottish side of my family is that there is an interesting mindset, comon among the more clannish folks but not limited to them, that nothing we do to anyone else comes close to what has been done to us, and therefore the wrongs WE do are negligible. Always. History becomes a game of "whataboutism".
@@rohiths9099 and thank goodness that political ship has sunk.
Considering the level of automatic hostility Israel has faced- they really try hard to keep the few “allies” in their good books.
Thanks to erdogan, most relations with turkey have been sabotaged- allowing the Israeli government to openly recognize the genocide of the Armenians.
But hey, why be surprised if the whole world currently kissing CCP’s ass?
System of a down did some amazing work publicising the Armenia Genocide. Serj even took Antony Bordain to Armenia and shared their culture with him.
Wonderful guy!
The whole band are descendants of genocide victims. Theyve been fighting for the admittance of the genocide since the 90's. They seem to be doing good work.
i wonder why soad is banned from turkey... 🤣😂
serj rocks! 🤘
If It hadn't been for System of a Down, this may have been the 1st time I'd ever heard of this tragedy.
As a descendant of Armenia and the genocide, I grew up hearing the stories of what happened to my family and our people. Truly brutal and heartbreaking stories, then to look over to my great grandma who survived the genocide and what she had to do to survive. Thank you for sharing this Simon and Team. As Ellie Wiesel said, “if we forget the atrocities of the past, we will blind ourselves to the atrocities of the present.” Much Love y’all ✌️💙
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 you've copypasta'd this incomplete statement several places in this thread? Didn't know turkey had a "Democrats" if you're talking about the Americans... It's not the Democrats who try to rewrite history heh... That's literally peer reviewed fact... Poor right wingers in America... Sooo sad. Can't even man up and admit their own mistakes. Bunch of snowflakes that bunch...
@@bayoubilly5176 Did I hurt little Billy's feelings?
eli wiesel is a known liar, why would you quote that
@@aWILDsomethingCAME What did he lie about? I look forward to your sources.
Shoutout to my fellow armenians from Bulgaria! We know, we understand, we support the armenian people in their battle!
Благодаря много
@Mehmed Islyamov No, man, we were slaves in the Empire…
@@pavlinthedentist sen imparotorlukta köle olup nasıl hala bulgarca biliyorsun asıl köle 1451-1870 yılı arası türklerdi bulgarların kaçtane veziri vardı o dönem biliyor musun üstüne üstlük asıl soykırımı bulgar rejimi yapmadımı ve de baskıyı örnek Naim Süleymanoğlu
@@tuna708 Anlatamazsın kardeşim boşuna yorulma.
AYYY
The paternal side of my family are descendants of survivors. Thank you for this.
My family, too are Turks descended from survivors of Armenian violence in Erzurum.
ruclips.net/video/1nij_I3RS6Y/видео.html Bernard Lewis,Hİstorian
It really is depressing that genicides not only keep happening, but are attempted to be erased.
Currently there are so many genocides happening right before us in India, China and other areas. Yet, nothing happens to stop it.
Never again- starting next time…
If we really knew how many tribes and cultures we've destroyed along the way it's probably more people than are currently alive
Because humans are predictable animals. People delude themselves into thinking we have changed at all. We are just as savage and vile as we were 1000 years ago. And a 1000 years before that.
More vile now cos we have the tech to kill industrially
@@LaFonteCheVi Reminds me of the quote from Kohelet (Ecclesiastes) 1:9
"All that is, will be, and all that was done, will be done, for there is nothing new under the sun"
I am Turkish-German and my great aunt used to talk about the killings (my family used to be nomadic and live in what is today Northern Syria. Before they were expulsed by the Arab nationalists themselves). My father's cousin also had an "unusual name" which was different than what was written on official documents. I later found out that her mother was Armenian. Given the fact that my parents village lies on the road to Syria, I only had to count 1+1 together in order to actually know that the Genocide happened in a large scale and wasnt just a "limited tragedy" or whatever you hear from the propaganda.
In Greece we have many people with unusual names as well
Usually is an obviously greek or Armenian surname with " - oglu " at the end , the usual explaination is that in some areas the local authorities was pressing people to take the name or the religion ...
@@Pavlos_Charalambous depends on the name I think and the region where the person came from. Surnames weren't something "normal" in the Ottoman Empire, they were only officially introduced during the Turkish Republic. The only people who really carried Surnames were Non-Muslims. I know that many officials and Private persons alike used "nick names" in order to identify families or indidividuals. The name "Papasoglu" for example, it literally means "son of the priest." There were regions where officials oppressed Christian communities, in others they mostly assimilated culturally but stayed Christian (either Greek Orthodox or Armenian Apostolic) or they were descendants of Turkic tribes who moved to the Byzantine Empire and converted to Christianity ever since. I also know of Jewish families who changed their name when they moved from Spain or Italy to the Ottoman Empire (e.g. Toledano became Hekim, Cuenca became Antebi).
@@hakanozaslan9571 am aware of that as well, there were even Turkic tribes assimilated into the Byzantine society for example the surname " Tourkopoulos " literally means " the son of the Turk " or " Turkish lad " if you like . Things often are more complicated than the official national narratives often are 😉
You’re not “Turkish-German” but a Kurdish-German, First you should stop the denial of Armenian revolts and terror which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead Turks in the Eastern provinces of the Ottoman Empire. You should accept the great treason by the Armenians against their own state during the WWI by collaborating with the invading Russian and French armies. And finally you must apologize for your lies. Only then we'll take you serious and start talking seriously.
@@DevletGM you aren't even from Turkey and you try to define my ethnic roots? 🤣 Sorry dude, family is from Gaziantep and my ancestors have been living there since they arrived from Horasan in Central Asia. And nope, not Kurdish or Arab either.
Comparative Genocide class didn't have time to cover the Hamidian Massacres. Thanks for adding to the background. Seems like prior instances of mass violence towards a people is a prerequisite to normalize genocide.
You took a Comparitive Genocide class? While studying History? Or Law? Just curious
My friend teaches a course on genocide at an American museum, I believe she is a professor in the criminology department. She actualy managed to sneak me onto the basic course and it was incredibly interesting. But I must admit at times, say whilst watching men talk about what they did during the Rwandan genocide, that I wished I could reach through the screen and throttle people. You really had to know when to just take a break before it got too much.
thank you for covering this. I'm not Armenian, nor related... although maybe very far...I never were educated about it. great first introduction. hope people will pick that up and keep educating themselves. long overdue.
Thank you as an Armenian for covering this. Not many people are brave enough to talk about this on their channel
And now it is repeating itself but with Palestinians and we have one of the most influential aremenian women on the planet able to stop it… but can’t
@@nah7140 Really i don't recall Palestinians being sent on death marches.
@@nah7140 don't hijack this tragedy to compare it to something much more complicated for your own agenda. shame on you.
I am very glad that Simon doesn't shill for likes at the end I'm glad he doesn't put ad reads in these. I'm glad it just let It drop and walks away.
@@muhan6831 then obviously what China is doing to its Muslim minority. After all its against extreme groups that have killed Chinese citizens so its justified right?
The final project I did in college was a five minute podcast on the Armenian Genocide. It was difficult to find information about the genocide from reliable first hand sources. I remember opening the podcast with a quote from Adolf Hitler in reference to the Armenian genocide to justify the Holocaust. Thank you for producing this video bringing more attention to this event that is so often overlooked.
that quote is fabricated, it would take you nothing more than a 5-10 min google research to actually discover that
@@fusionreactor7179 no it’s not lol his quote came from his order to Wehrmacht commanders on August 22, 1939, a week before the Nazi invasion of Poland, the creator of the word genocide even said he coined that term after hearing how Jews and Armenians were being treated
Werent ukraine and armenians in that same struggle at the same time almost?
@@brianticas7671 maybe,but because of Ukraine supports turkey and azerbaijan, obviously not many armenians support Ukraine
Thanks for your work , greetings from Armenia 🇦🇲
Thank you for covering this Simon. It needs to be talked about.
@@muhan6831 I understand you are insecure about your own culture but why do you have to spread outrageous misinformation. 😂😂 Armenians were the first ethnic group to settle in the Caucasus it's physically impossible for the minority amount of Armenians to kill 3 million Turks. Just because you have no history doesn't mean you have to change other people's. I hope one day you can cleanse the jealousy inside of your soul.
@@muhan6831Lies
@@muhan6831 What do u know 😂😂
@@muhan6831 Hamshens are Armenian bro
@Muhan youtube opinions aren't reliable sources lol.
As a descendant of Armenian Genocide survivors (and a big fan of all of your channels) I truly appreciate the time you took to make this video. It’s been over a century (4 generations in my family) that we have been forced to live away from our ancestral homes in the western portion of the Armenian Highlands (falsely relabeled as “eastern Anatolia” in 1941) and we still hold on to our heritage, our faith, our language, and our culture despite being forced to live away from our homes. Thanks again!
Armenians commited the circassin genocide together with their russian masters! Of course circassians were not happy with armenians in the ottoman empire
@@Hasanbas-rv3vmwhataboutism
Classic muslim
@@Софија-крафт every action has a reaction - isaac newton
What do Armenians think of Jews and Israel? Since they under the Genocide that Muslims did to them, I think Armenians would be supporters of Israel and the Jewish people and against Muslim Terrorist GRoups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
@@Софија-крафт crying about a fire that you have ignited, Classic Christian
Please can you cover the formation of Northern Ireland, and “The Troubles”? I know it’s a scary place to explore (especially with Brexit flaring issues) but I think more people need to understand the history and situation.
To do it any justice the video would need to be about 4 hours long.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see it coming from an English guy (I know he doesn’t care and says what the truth is, which we all should applaud him for)
I don't know, one he did on Maori was dissappointingly inaccurate and when he got criticism he just said a real historian wrote this. It was still not accurate.
@@flashrobbie :( I’m so sorry that’s awful 😞
@@CashelOConnolly he used to put resources but got in trouble when one of his very old sources on an old video was turned in to something pornographic
So tends to leave sources on some of the websites that are linked.
If Turkey does what Germany did that’s recognizing and apologizing for the Holocaust. Turkey would have so much to return. To Armenians, Greeks, Kurds, Assyrians. There would be no Turkey left
Why should Türkiye admit a lie? Is there any court decision about genocide existence?
UK and USA tried hard to find evidence in Malta island and they could not find any. They even confess that there is no hope to find any evidence of genocide.
@@ozlemozturk6763The only one lying is you
A country built on lies. Even now they are stealing more lands.
@@ozlemozturk6763 deny deny deny lol your whole identity is a copy and a lie my
Mongol friend lol
My Master's Thesis related heavily to the genocidal policies of the Ottomans (titled "Humanitarian Efforts of Dunsterforce"), and have to say you did a great job surmising the main points. However, there are a few points I wish you elaborated upon more.
Firstly, much of the violence was left up to the discretion of provincial governments. Mehmed Reshid, the "Butcher of Diyabekir", was particularly brutal. He would hire Kurdish tribes explicitly to hunt down Armenians, divide the wealth, and eliminate the evidence (i.e burn or drown the bodies).
Secondly, the Policies were not just isolated to Ottoman territory. The Persian (now Iranian) Offensive by the Ottomans during 1915/ 1916 aimed at breaking the Russians on the Caucasus Front. Many Christian Minorities (Armenians, Chalcideans, Assyrians, etc) were also targeted and murdered by Ottoman soldiers and irregular militias (with certain figures, like Shimko Shikak, assassinating key religious leaders and harassing communities like Urmia). Essentially, the conflict between ethno-religious groups spread wherever the Ottoman forces were present, such as Iran and Azerbaijan. This pushed many groups "on the fence" about the war to join the Russians in pushing the Ottomans out of Iran and deep into Anatolia itself. Russia may well have defeated the Ottomans single handedly by 1917 if they were not stopped by the Bolshevik Revolution.
Thirdly, the Orphans were treated far worse than just being "orphans"... A common insult, used both now and back then, was to call these children kılıç artığı , which means "Leftovers of the Sword" in Turkish. This is akin, if not worse, than calling an African American the "N" word to their faces in terms of generational trauma.
Fourthly, the conflict between Armenians and the Turks was, at the time, a subsection of a broader ethno-religious conflict. Following the Armenian situation, the Greeks also went to war against the Ottomans. When it ended in 1923, there was a population swap where Greek speaking Muslims and Turkish speaking Christians were "swapped" between countries, and were not allowed to return to their homes. Some of these empty villages exist to this day though they are isolated.
Fifthly, during the fall of the Ottomans, many attempted to establish "Armenia" as its own state. When the Ottomans defeated Armenian in 1918, they melted away due to the Russian support dissipating. Armenia would eventually be divided between the Turks and the Russians in 1921 despite the Bolsheviks promising they had no ambitions to annex them.
Lastly, the precedent set by the Armenian Genocide, and the ensuing political fall out in the 1920s, were direct inspirations for the Third Reich's genocidal policies on European Jews. As there was a lack-lustre international response from the international community in what was the "first" internationally recognized genocide, the Germans believed they could follow through with what had come before. What the Nazi's did was not "new", it was perfected from a system that had already existed previously.
Genocide denial is an extremely important subject to call out, recognize and criticize. If we do not, then we not only set a terrible example for those that come after us, shame the sacrifice these people made to ensure this lesson could be learned, and potentially lead to worse violence in future generations.
Well written.
I will just add a veryyyyy small correction the exchange of populations was between Christian and Muslim populations of Greece and Turkey , that means Turkish, Cretain Albanian and slav Muslims from Greece and Greeks , Armenians , circisians , westerners and some Christian Turkish minorities from Turkey 😉
@@Pavlos_Charalambous ah perfect! Appreciate the correction, it's extremely important to me and academia in general to get the info correct, so thank you!
@@wildmanhistory it's a detail that people often forget because the refugees in general adopted the nationalism of each host nation , for the Greek case those who wasn't Greeks was merged into to the Greek refugee populations and the local one creating in many ways a new culture in the areas that was settled 😉
An other detail of the agreement was that the populations of Eastern Thrace and Instabul was to not to be exchanged , although how that worked out is a different story..
Thank you for your informative posting. Please support Remembrance 2025, Armenian Holocaust, 110 Years at the federally funded US Holocaust Museum in DC by requesting this exhibit.
as a turkish person it is difficult for me to find an objective and true information because you can guess our "history books" dont cover this case like this im no denial in Armenian genocide and even my family members trying to deny it which disturbs me a lot so it is really nice for you to share your research like this i hope one day my country accepts and owns its terrible crimes against Armenians❤❤
Im surprised the comments are just a bunch of angry turks.. usually thats what happens with you mention armenians or kurds
You came too early. Come back in 12 hours.
They were taught the falsified history of Turkey. I had a Turkish friend who was saying that Greeks, Armenians and Iranians invaded Turkey and stole from them.
As an Armenian and a long time fan of all your channels (even before becoming an OGBB), I really appreciate this episode and you using your platform and your voice to talk about an issue that's not talked about as much as it should be with a lot of fabrication and falsification that comes from the side of the perpetrator. Thank you for making it a point to mention the "memorial" in Turkey that solidifies the aforementioned falsification as well. Great summary, suits the high standard you've taught fans of your channels to come to expect.
It never happened. They were casualties of war like many people of different nationalities during WW1. Armenians chose to be allies with enemies of Ottomans hence why Ottomans responded against the enemy during a time when Armenians were sabotaging for the British Empire. It is just another fraud to get reparations at UN just like their fraud schemes in the US. If not, other nationalities fared much worse during WW1 than Armenians.
@@jacqueslee2592 Thank you for proving my point regarding falsification. I appreciate your contribution to the cause, together we'll get the genocide recognized and the souls of the innocent will finally be able to rest in peace.
thank you so much for recognizing and covering the armenian genocide!
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 I read that Cenk Uygur doesn't deny the Armenian Genocide anymore, but still...the name for his talk show "The Young Turks" is a slap in the face to Armenians. Jön Türkler or Genç Türkler (The Young Turks) was the name of the political group that massacred Armenians under the guise of the "Committee of Union and Progress."
@@marcusg.2910 It was because they were Christians, and democrats and TYT don't like christians
@@itsmaam742 I am a Christian. I am not a Democrat, but I am not a Republican or a conservative either. To me, conservative politics don't resonate with Jesus' teachings of non-judgment and caring for and walking with the poor and downtrodden. RUclips comments are really not the place for an argument on the matter, so I want to suggest we stop here and consider the other's point of view by looking up articles from the others' perspective and talking and listening to people in our lives who don't have the same view as we do. We can all learn from each other, but lets do it locally instead of devolving into RUclips comment arguments. It's difficult to continue a civil conversation virtually, and, its great to strengthen ties with our local communities even when we disagree with others on certain topics. Not that you've argued with me! I just worry about how these things end up going! I looked up more about Cenk Uygur because of you, so thanks for sharing and giving me an opportunity to be openminded to new facts and ideas. God bless!
@@marcusg.2910 conservative politics don't resonate with Jesus teaching? Dude, Dems do not like christians. what about abortion? maybe your still in college and dont really get the real world or how politics really are
I was a pen pal with a Turkish fellow years ago. It's amazing how much talking about this triggered him what was at the time eight decades after the fact. Thank you for sharing this!
It's ironic that Turkey demands countries like Germany respect and pander to the Turkish minorities living in those countries but Turkey itself mistreated the minorities living in Anatolia. They even expelled thousands of Greeks to preserve the "Turkishness" of Anatolia but at the same time claim that Turks make Germany a more "diverse" country.
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 european democrats are in the process of turning western europa into a turkish province and it is sad to see they are succeeding as well.
why be his pen pal?
@@theawesomeman9821 I wasn't after that interaction.
There is nothing contencious about it. the Ottomans murdered millions wether the turks like it or not
Yes man. I mean, that's basic logic. You don't have an Empire by being pacifist, right? haha.
Probably your nation also murdered so many people in the past. There is no escape from it.
When Europe do it its wrong but when ottoman its right???
@@stevenpatrick3934 when Europe do it its wrong but when ottoman do it its wrong?
Turkey's official stance in the matter has always been and still is a sign of weakness and fear. Fear of what it would mean when they admit what everyone already knows. A fear that has no basis in reality.
it's not fear or weakness. It's contempt and disdain for the Armenians (and pontic and smyrna Greeks) and the international world, and the absolute non-presence of any feeling of responsibility for their own actions because no one ever held them accountable for anything.
The same rotten organisations and countries that turned the Germans into a backward guilt-ridden people after world war 2, failed to ever hold the Turks (and the Kurds for that matter) accountable for these mass killings, and actively prevented anyone from doing so, because of NATO-interests.
It's beyond sad.
@@ericvosselmans5657 Of course they show contempt to minorities, in an official capacity at the very least, but I firmly believe that they are frightened to admit wrongdoing. We didn't call the Ottoman empire a 'clay legged giant' for no reason...
Turkey is afraid of the consequences if they recognize the genocide. The Turkish government certainly have to pay reparations to Armenia and Greece. Turks don't want another headache. Much more now, Turkey's economy is in a tailspin! The Turkish economy is stagnating since last year
@@armandotalampas4800 The reason Turkey doesn´t and will not accept any responsibility is, due to both Greeks and Armenians doing the same thing to the Turks, that we get accused of doing to them. Crete, Thessaloniki, Yerevan, Stepanakert were places with each 40% turkic populations, they all were killed or deported in much the same manner. The conflict also didn´t start randomly with Turks doing this, it started with the Greek revolution of 1821, way way before the Turks committed any of the supposed crimes. Turks don´t claim innocence, surely people died, we do not deny the deaths. We deny causation, big big big difference, which is often overlooked. Also, this topic is always fed through the biased lense of armenians who are emotionally invested in this, to reach a consensus you need to listen to both sides, as history is not black and white. Greece and Armenia are ethnically homogenous, I wonder what happened to all minorities in those countries, while in Turkey the people still exist, next to my village is an armenian one, next to that a circassian one. Also. if the Genocides were so bad then how did so many Armenians and Greeks escape from the desert to land in america a nation on the other side of the world.
As stated before, I do NOT deny human tragedy and loss of life, I simply am adding that the causation wasn´t ethnic cleansing and that we ourselves have suffered at the hands of armenians, just as much as they claim they have from us.
P.S If you want someone to blame for atrocities, the kurds were actually the forces that did the crimes, as all turkish soldiers were at one of the 4 fronts, just a side note for you. This is also why there was a demographic shift in eastern provinces where mostly armenians lived, now live mostly Kurds, I wonder why, hmmm.
@@adidoki TU quoque/correlation-causation fallacies on full display.
4 weeks ago I made a comment on your channel asking to cover this, and I just see this video. Not sure if my comment had any effect or not, but as an Armenian subscriber thank you Simon for covering this.
In a dark sense, it's ironic... Turkey lashed out at Armenia, it's culture, and the Armenian race in some violent death rattle as the empire collapsed. It's a fairly good example of an old Armenian proverb, "A drowning man will clutch at straws."
How ironic. Now we are independent state and not a mere puppet of other world countries and the ones who rebelled are just a satellite to russia and slave to their hatred...
Lately I've seen comments about how accepting the ottomans were and how they allowed Christians and Jews to practice their faith freely and safely. But i never get a reply when i comment "what about the Armenian Genocide". In their position I'd stfu too.
Even fewer remember that the Turks also did this to Assyrian and Greek christians.
As a South African national I recognize that the Armenian Genocide happened. 🇦🇲❤🇿🇦❤
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@@Abdlsamett Turk detected
Do you want a fucking cookie?
@@maxbear7961nah dont want my data to get stolen
@@maxbear7961do you want your father to return from getting milk? 😢
When Hitler invaded Poland on Sept 1st, 1939 had a meeting 2 weeks before this event, on Sept 20th during this event he pointed out that his SS Troops had been given orders to Kill every Man, Woman, and Child of Polish Blood. He made a statement "Who Remembers The Armenians?"
or Herero for that regard and good measure...
What you have written is not based on any genuine evidence.
What you are referring to is a document that purports to be the record of an address made by Hitler to his military leaders shortly before the invasion of Poland in 1939. The address was made on 22 August 1939, and we know what Hitler said because a number of those present made notes that have been preserved. In none of those preserved notes does Hitler make any reference whatever to the Armenians.
Furthermore, in that address, Hitler made no reference to the Jews either. The purpose of his address was to tell the military leaders what he saw as the essential aim of the invasion, which was to destroy the military power of Poland.
What you are thinking of is a falsified version of what Hitler said at the meeting, a version that was handed over to the British Government during the war by an American journalist, Louis Lochner, and published by the British as wartime propaganda. From 1924 to 1942, Lochner was head of the Berlin Bureau of the Associated Press, and he reported on the German invasion of Poland. After Germany declared war on the United states he was interned, but was released in 1942. After the war, he presented a document to the International Military Tribunal containing his version of Hitler’s address of 22 August 1939, but it was rejected as not genuine; because its origin could not be verified. Lochner was not able to say how he got the document he was holding.
Two genuine records of Hitler’s address were found at the end of the war among seized German documents, and these were used as evidence. Neither of those documents contains any reference to the Armenians. The claimed reference to the Armenians occurs only in the falsified version held by Lochner.
Historians think that Lochner obtained at Transcript of Hitler’s address from one of the participants at the meeting, most probably Canaris, and rewrote it to make it more brutal. For example, in the genuine versions of Hitler’s speech, he says that the aim is to destroy the enemy forces; in Lochner’s version, those words are falsified to be an order to kill all Poles, men, women and children, without pity.
You can read a translation of the genuine version of Hitler’s speech here: reader.library.cornell.edu/docviewer/digital?id=nur%3A00458#mode%2F1up
If you can read German, you could have a look at this official version of Hitler’s speech, contained in the official war diary kept by Halder.www.ns-archiv.de/krieg/1939/22-08-1939-halder.php
The part falsified by Lochner is this one:
II.) Forderungen des Führers an die militärischen Führer.
@@DevletGM Good job.
@@DevletGM I concede that the veracity of the quote is dubious but this reeks of Turkish denialism
@@DevletGM I am Turkish and welcome to "our side". Since you did excellent and non-biased work and proved Hitler didnt say such thing, even you believe Armenian relocation was genocide, everyone will still hate you and blame you of being Turkish.
Great thing that the Armenian genocide is becoming a more well known event. On a similar note, you shold do a video covering the Greek genocide, as more than 500,000 Greeks of Anatolia, Asia Minor's shoreline and the Black Sea suffered the same fate as the Armenians, plus forced labour death-camps, just like in WW2 Germany. These actions of the Ottoman/Turkish state led to the death or deportation of the Greeks of Asia Minor. Those people had lived there since 1100 BC, suffered greatly when the Ottoman appeared, all the way until they were finally exterminated or expelled. Some excellent novels have been written on the subject, from people that saw first-hand the destruction and escaped the slaughter. Some of them are: "The Number 31328" by Ilias Venezis, "Matomena Chomata" (Land drenched in blood) by Dido Sotiriou and "The Testament Of Ionia" by Filio Chaidemenou. Must-reads for everyone, highly recommended.
Inventing more as we go
Assyrians as well! I feel like people fail to realize that it wasn’t just us Armenians that were targeted. Millions of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians died at the hands of the Ottomans.
@@blistertooth dont forget about the 3 million babylonians
As an Armenian, our Greek and Assyrian brothers deserve their recognition too.
@@fusionreactor7179 Denialism is a bad look dude
My great grandma was an Armenian born in turkey in 1906. Thank you. The fact that so many people don't acknowledge that this happened (and that so many Americans don't even know what Armenia is) blows my mind. It's offensive how much this is swept under the rug
Yes, please support Remembrance 2025, Armenian Holocaust, 110 Years at the federally funded US Holocaust Museum in DC by contacting them.
Armeninans commited the circassian genocide with the russians
@@Hasanbas-rv3vm no
@@kristaporkhach yes dont deny it
I’m excited to read all the kind, respectful comments later on.
You're new around here aren't you
Like mine??
Lmfao, can't wait
@@cravenmoordik And you don't seem to understand sarcasm, doofus.
@@bagsmohess And you seem to miss a person making a comment with their tongue firmly in cheek. I'm not going to call you a name.
A very tragic story😶. One thing is for sure - Turkey will never officially recognise it. The incompetent Enver Pasha had to try find a way to cover his ass for the disastrous loss at Sarikamish, and he latched onto the Armenian angle. What a coward…
Amen
Bruh don’t talk enver pasha did nothing wrong there is no genoicide cry
@@Emir0709 bunlar ya tarihten bi haner yada tarihi işlerine geldiği gibi okuyo
Enver Pasha should be declared a war criminal.
@@brkdgn2634 git taner akcam kitapı oku, kanıtı o buldu, talat paşanın kendi yazısıyla.
Parts of Armenia were kept being chipped away, latest last summer by Azerbaijan. And those left behind in those territories were always forced to move, sooner or later, leaving their ancestral lands.
Also can't not leave without mentioning that Israel does not recognize the Armenian genocide, despite to the connections to their own. And even more, they were continuing to supply Azerbaijan during this latest war.
Really want that Armenia grossly overstated its own and understated the military strength of Azerbaijan, leading to a military debacle on there said, all this by the way has nothing to do with the genocide
@@mkoschier Guessing English is not a language you know well, considering how little sense you made with that comment, but assuming you meant to say that during the latest Azerbaijan-Armenian war, then there was some ethnic cleansing during and after that war by Azerbaijani troops, yet not exactly on genocidal scale (that event alone). Nor I stated that. What I did say was that Armenians are continuously being pushed out of their native lands. Which also happened during/after that war.
@@IlmarKiisk why don’t you mention ethnic cleansing of Azeris in the 90s by Armenians in Nagorno Kharabagh? You conveniently left that part out.
@@IlmarKiisk I laughed a lot against your fake comment
Azerbaijani soldiers did nothing there, they just prepared a link for Karabakh
While saying this, the Turkish section living there and the border villages raided and killed the Turks.
and deliberate artillery. causing 100 deaths in cities
Why did you ignore Armenia?
Or do you know that in the 90s, with the help of the new Russian government, thousands of people were killed and children were skinned?
The Armenian Genocide never fully ended, it is still ongoing. A genocide denied is a genocide continued.
I got blocked because I spoke about the Armenian genocide on instagram
Nothing unusual.. still better than being attacked by Turkish fascist and having approximately a thousand Turkish flags under every comment
1:20 - Chapter 1 - Armenians
2:50 - Chapter 2 - The hamidian massacres
5:20 - Chapter 3 - The turn of the century
7:30 - Chapter 4 - WWI
9:35 - Chapter 5 - Deportation begins
11:45 - Chapter 6 - The death marches
14:15 - Chapter 7 - The 1st republic of armenia
15:10 - Chapter 8 - Genocide
- Chapter 9 -
- Chapter 10 -
It's amazing the horrors we unleash on our own species.
Especially when we believe we're not the same species
On other species too, we just don't care much...
@@FranFerioli Animals do the same things. They just don't have the tech or intelligence to carry it in a organized and large scale manner like we do.
@@0816M3RC And also not the cognitive ability to reflect on themselves the way we can. Kind of a big responsibility for us.
@@0816M3RC Chimps are the best example. They even use some of the tactics humans employ. Its funny cohencidence the tact is referred to as guerilla warfare. Yet its human and chimps, not gorillas that use this tactic. I know its of Spanish origin, not after the primate. Plus Chimp Warfare don't sounds right.
This will be a personal one to me; some of my ancestors sought refuge here in England at the time, and we may well have been directly affected by the genocide. Some of us were Armenians, the rest Palestinians - as for those who were connected to both sides, and had to endure both this and the Nakba of 1948, I have no idea how they must have felt. I hope I never have to find out for myself what that is like.
@@אילןאור-ח4מ "my genocide is better than yours!" You share more with the arabs than any of the victims
@@אילןאור-ח4מ
Look up the Zionist
Lehi Nazi collaborators
@@אילןאור-ח4מ
in your region Syria
Lebanon and Cyprus only
@@אילןאור-ח4מ Look up the Deir Yassin Massacre of 1948
I did a report on this in High School, my partner and I went on to have the paper published in the school newspaper because of the fact no one really knew about it other than us because his grandparents had lived through it. Sad times, truly a tragedy.
That sucha. Lie, the balkans were all Christian were they not… now they are. Jumbled mess of religious conflict because ottomans brought Islam into the mix.
To this day, you can still trigger a Turkish Nationalist by saying only one word.
"Armenia."
Now its Kurd.
Turkish nationalists deserve to be in a constant state of being triggered.
Been talking to this cute Armenian girl and we were making plans for dinner So Iasked her if she'd like to go to this Turkish restaurant and she responded with a link to the Wikipedia page for the Armenian genocide
@@theunbeatable6598 not surprised, since there might chances they would spit in the food before serving it, once they find out her nationality.
@@mannequinofscots5246 Not really, only the Armenians are extra salty about turks for no good reason
As a descendant of the Anatolian’s from Asia Minor I’m glad that this tragedy was featured on your channel Simon.
@@muhan6831 go spread your lies elsewhere
Thank you, friend. I'm an American Armenian, and I appreciate your digging into the history.
In 2016 the current President of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, declared that his country will never accept what happened to the Armenians as genocide. Members of the german parliament from turkish descendence who voted for a declaration that said exactly this were designated by him as terrorists and traitors and he recommended their blood to be examined because they can not truly belong to the turkish people. I have no clue what to say about that but I think they are truly courageous and as they all have German citizenship I am delighted to call them compatriots.
„The Herero Genocide“ would be a good topic for another great videos on this channel, btw.
I can't hear, read, or learn anything about the Armenian Genocide without being reminded of the song P.L.U.C.K by System of a Down, its actually quite a lyrically powerful song
I hear Holy Mountains, the song is haunting and what prompted me to learn more.
Holy Mountains got me wondering when I was a kid.
It makes me sick that the Armenian Genocide is not more covered and known. So many innocent people murdered. Also an attack against Christian people.
My very first boss when I was 14 in 1994 was an elderly Armenian man. He told me he was given the name the Puma when he was in the Armenian military. What I wouldn't do to ask him questions about this and his life because it's very clear to me now that he had to have lived through this 😢 as a child. He was a sweet Wonderful man who looked like he had seen some shit for sure.
Thank you for this video. My grandfather and his family had to escape from Armenia to Cyprus.
Mine ran to Syria and the states
I sure hope this channel starts landing sponsors, RUclips won't be monetizing
RUclips hates real history. The constantly fuckover Time Ghost’s channels.
One correction: while the term genocide has been most connected to the Holocaust and thus systematic mass murder (Raphael Lemkin being Jewish himself) he believed the creation of the term necessary not because of the many mass killings in the 20th C per se but because of what some of them were meant to do: destroy a people. And he made clear in his writings that while in many cases this of course has included the killing of individuals as part of a larger whole, this is almost always accompanied by other methods and genocide could occur without that. The important factor is not the death count, though those alone are tragedies of the highest order, but the attempt to destroy a people as a whole with their language, customs, works, and “soul”, which can occur in any number of ways-many of which were deliberately omitted when it was crafted into international law by nations uncomfortable with their own pasts and presents. In his 1953 speech on the Holodomor as part of a wider Ukrainian genocide he even states that if a genocide were carried out without any individual suffering we would be required to condemn it as among the worst of crimes. The primary focus on death makes sense, but it’s also something deniers of nearly every genocide seize on to create false doubt. The other aspect deniers focus on that Lemkin made clear in his writings was that intent in genocide can be read by behaviours, it need not be found as an explicit order in writing. It’s unfortunate that his works and words are rarely read or even mentioned in most history classes that cover genocides, even at university level.
The exodus of Jews from Arab/Muslim countries that took place during and after the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 can be considered a "genocide" of sorts, even if only a few here and there in those lands were actually killed. It was no less than a cultural genocide and it was every bit as catastrophic for them as the Holocaust was for European Jews, the Ottoman-orchestrated genocide was for Armenians and other Christians, etc., but it's far less discussed than certainly the Holocaust and even the Armenian Genocide.
Under this definition, the othering of a certain group/sex of people in developed nations would fit. As the Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association put it: "x"-ness is a disease. Coca-Cola has training telling their employees to "be less X". The Salvation Army has "apologized for our X-ness". Academia refuses to allow these people to become professors without jumping through hoops, and large corporations (Hollywood, Amazon) are literally rewriting their historical figures by substituting them with other ethnicities. The Associated Press has issued writing guidelines to refer to these people with a lower case while referring to all other groups with capitalization. To bring this up however will see myriad "ism" pejoratives hurled at you.
@@yodorob Yes and so can what China has been doing to Tibet. Sure, there might not have been significant numbers of deaths and violence, but the Tibetan culture was being eradicated through a variety of measures.
Shame that the genocide against Hawaiians was never acknowledged
@@wezzuh2482 Uyghurs as well comes to mind, China is very explicit about its intentions of erasing their cultural identity and religion.
Other examples of cultural Genocides are most notable for examples like West Papua, Native Americans and Indigenous Australians.
Careful Simon, you've just triggered every Turkish nationalist with this topic. Of course even President (for Life) Erdogan falls squarely into that category to his nation's everlasting disgrace. Turkey was a great country when I was there 15 years ago. Now, I wouldn't spend a dollar helping a regional bad actor.
The EU loves him ! They pay him
6 billion Euros to stop immigrants
from getting into Europe .
( They would build a wall but unfortunately even by their standards that might be just TOO
hypocritical - after their criticism of Trump . )
@@2msvalkyrie529 Ah, yes the EU is hypocritical for not building a wall. But the USA building a wall are not? It's not like Reagan made a speech shaming the Russians for building the Berlin Wall in 1987...Oh, wait, actually, he did... Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby?
@@adrien5834 First off, think you missed his point entirely... Second of all, did you just compare the Berlin Wall to Trump's stupid wall?
It'd be comparable if Trump's wall was meant to divide a single, pre-existing city (inside a preexisting country) in half... but 2 separate countries having walls along their borders is nothing new. Walls splitting a single country in half, are not normal, and walls dividing a single city in half are even more rare.
One of the few places that even still happens (and to a much lesser degree) is Jerusalem, with a wall dividing Eastern Jerusalem & the Palestinian side... and even that is to break up 2 ethnicities Jews/Palestinians. Berlin Wall breaking up Germans from other Germans, due to an outside country's decision (USSR) was worse (way more guarded & far more fatalities trying to cross).
Anyway, the original post you responded to said the EU would be hypocrites if they built a wall to block immigration after bashing Trump for doing the same just years earlier. Trump building a wall to keep out illegal immigrants 35-40 years after Regan talked about brining down a wall dividing a city composed of the same families (within the same former country) isn't hypocrisy...
Trump did a TON of hypocritical things, especially when you looked at what he criticized Obama for when Obama was still president, but building a wall isn't one of them (though it was a stupid waste of money anyway).
@@corey2232 Of course I've missed his fucking point, he doesn't have one, and neither do you, because, and this will blow your mind, East Germany and West Germany were, in fact, two different countries, so I've no idea where you are going with this. I've also no idea why you're wasting your time trying to explain this idiot's stupid post, but hey, it's your life.
@@adrien5834 bro i gotta say as an outside observer it seems you did not read his comment.
Thank you for this.
My childhood friend's grandmother survived the genocide and flew to my country to be safe. Her Armenian relatives told her they would send her a picture. If they were up, it meant it was safe to come back. If they were sitting down, it would mean the situation was terrible and she should stay there for her own safety. She received the picture where they were laying on the ground. The situation was horrible for Armenians. I'll always remember this story. Many Armenians took refuge in my country in that city and I still can't believe people and government would go to such effort to lie and be in denial and protect their ego and History like that.
Did any of the relatives make it out alive?
@@thechosenone1533 Possibly. The mother of my friend went back to Armenia some years ago and managed to find some friends and members of her mother all these years ago.
i love the new ending, it gives a better "umph" to the videos point.
the Pontic Greeks also suffered around 200K deaths from the Turks
Pontic greeks will never die in our hearts 💛😔 🇬🇷 🦅
It shocks me when turkey is a big supporter for palestine and condemning israel for genocide, but then they forget in history they commited genocide on armenians, pontic greeks and assyrians.
Dude ur comment is so funny u cant change past many countries made worst things because of stupid goverments and some dmb sht speech.I didnt see any european knows some turks burned by greek and armenians too all was dumbest things for me.
But ik i am smarter than you guys i know 4 language and watching all european historical videos u guys are just hating turks because of ottomans but i cant understand how all european people know ottoman but dont know the Ataturk Lol Also race is not exist for me we all are made by atoms
@@JYUSUF_F13knowing more languages does not mean you’re smarter😭
@@JYUSUF_F13what about the genocide of greek people in west turkey?
@@Alt300 Some one deleted my comment lmao
I am not an Armenian but I strongly believe that this needs to be talked about. No more denying.
According and Cenk Uygur and Democrats this never happen and everything he's saying is a lie. But then again Democrats are trying to rewrite history all together.
@@itsmaam742 Stop being easily duped(I know that's *_EXTREMELY_* hard for you to do by your (mis)information, propaganda mouth piece that you call (faux) "news"🤦♂️🤣😂
@@jonhall2274 Yet you refute no claims, you just resort to the Leftist methodology of insulting people, and indirectly bringing up your Great Satan, Rupert Murdoch. Cenk is well known as a hard-Left shill, even outside the US.
@@itsmaam742 you're wrong, everyone knows that it happened. All of the people at TYT have admitted it happened. You should read newer articles. Positive vibes from New Hampshire, remember to be kind to each other and yourself during this pandemic and social crisis
@@itsmaam742 is a genocide denier. He's not worth reasoning with
Great video. I'm from Uruguay, the first country to recognize the genocide, for that i knew of it but not that much. greets and keep the great work
so uruguay is $$hit country it seems.
Accepting one sided story is fair what do you think?
Do you heard armenian tashnak hincak gangs? What they did in anatolia with help from russia and west?
While Turks are under attack from western coalition armenian and greeks from inside attacked Turks for destroy whole Turks
This was real genocide attempt we defend ourselves. Yall tried real genocide against Turks but its failed.
West hates Turks because we doesnt fit to their agenda because always Turks stand up against them for a thousand year
even Turks fought back agains crusader all the time so ı understand this pain from this west.
Armenians arent saint or innocent. They tried build greater armenia with western support and promises but we didnt let them.
Westerners are biased people mind with their one sided stories.
Westerners and russians provoked armenians against Turks this two sided war not genocide was your fault.
While ottomans collapse with promises from armenians see this as a opportunity for create greater armenia
and they start killing Turks
Armenians killing villagers and attack Turks joining invading forces but Turks shouldnt protect themselves?
Arslan Yabgu here we go again...
You have been banned from Turkey.
Oh darn. Guess he'll have to visit any number of other countries that aren't run by egomaniacal rectal jesters. Oh, wait...
@@ATOMIC_V_8 Turkey is one of the most beautiful countries in the world. That sounds like cope.
@Daco-Rus Gay
You won't get banned because you believe the genocide is real. Stop propaganda. There are people in Turkey who believe it's a genocide
@@attilamert6973Turkey= Greece+Western Armenia+Cilicia. If it was not for the Soviet Union that literally saved Turkey it wouldn't have existed.
Your audacity is indeed impressive. Well done Simon and the whole team of the channel. As a descedant of Asia Minor Greeks I can understand what you are talking about. Well done
Anadolu'da öldürdüğünüz insanlar daha iyi anlıyor.
Driving into SF there was always a banner on Treasure Island midway through the Bay Bridge that said "RECOGNIZE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE." Was always very powerful.
I think when people think genocide, it has to correlate to the holocaust and gaza.
Armenians are very resilient people. They were victims of horrendous acts of artocities but still preserved their identity and many of them made significant contribution to science, technology and literature. Just like Armenian genocide, the Bangladesh genocide of 1971 is also ignored by everyone!
I stand in solidarity with everyone that was murdered during the genocide, and the survivors, and their descendants.
Thank you 🙏 for this video. Most of my own grandfather’s family was murdered in the 1915 genocide. He and his only surviving brother were hidden away. At 2-3 years old they were orphaned and had lost their identities. As a result, I don’t have a real last name. My father and his siblings grew up with made up names. Genocide cut out their roots! Armenians if revolted it was due to for our own native lands and the lies and oppressive conditions by the Sultan and the Young Turks. They ultimately broke trust between our people.
God bless you and your grandfather. Your grandfather's family are matyrs who are in heaven if they were Christians 🙏
@@Itsover..866 Thank you so much! Yes, we’re Christians. 🙏
Didn't any Armenians kill Turks then?
Armenians broke the trust first by killing the turks in the lands that russian empire gained throughout the war. I dont defend what happend but you cant just talk about this without mentioning the turks that were killed by armenians
What area of turkey was your family from ? My grandfathers whole family was slaughtered in Diyarbakir
I've been kind of stuck reading up on the Circassian Genocide as well in the latter half of the 19th Century. All part of Imperial Russia's expansion into the Caucus Region.
Yes, the brutality of the Russian Empire in the Caucasus should be covered here someday.
Whenever Russians bring up the Native American Genocide to criticize America, I always respond with the Circassian Genocide.
Turkey's refusal to acknowledge the horrors they have committed has meant they continue to commit crimes against humanity today, eg. their invasion and occupation of northern Cyprus and their persecution of the Kurds.
Don’t forget the Alevis (the Sivas Massacre, for example) and the Greek/Turkey “population exchange” after WW2 and them burning down Smyrna (now İzmir).
@@TheBLGL Greek Turkey exchange was not our choice it was what the entente wanted and secondly why should we burn the city we just reconquered? Makes no sense
Why tf should we celebrate turkish independance? After they commit genocide to many nations?
As an Armenian going to school in Los Angeles I would be so confused why they talked so much about the Holocaust but only had a small paragraph about the Armenian genocide. As I got older I realized the textbooks we've been reading in schools have all been funded by Turkish interest groups in the United States to spread their own propaganda....this taught me at an early stage to question everything historical and to always look at both sides...a famous quote can't remember who said it said...."history is written by the victors."
I had always thought it was because Simon and Schuster were Jewish, so they delve more into the Holocaust, but you've got a point that it seems all of the history textbooks are like that.
Turkish history is not a Turkish delight
Haha, both suck ass equally imo. Great dad joke!
@@Juliankb39 like ur mom?
@@bayhickimse3505 yes
@@Juliankb39 cope more
@@attilamert6973 with what exactly? I'm not Turkish ( thank God ) and Turkish delight really sucks ass. Baklava is good shit though
My great grandma was a survivor of the death marches, and my great grandpa left Armenia as a refugee but went back to fight Turkish forces with the Foreign Legion
So your grandpa was a traitor
I love the way he just stands up and walks off after these darker videos, correctly demonstrating there's nothing else to say.
I am a Muslim. My profound apologies for the past crimes of the ottomans and the on going crimes of the neo ottomans. May God bless my Armenian brethren.
Lmao kid
If only turks were like you
@@cazwalt9013 He is fake Turk may be armenian
@@cazwalt9013 unfortunately humanity has lost the capacity to think and the ability to distinguish between good and evil. The lord god is just and there will be justice done, if not in this world most certainly in the next. May god have mercy on all the victims of oppression.
These idiots do not know history, why did this kick off? Because armenian communists believed in russian lies and were tricked into rebellions. How many turks died?
You can spot all the genocide deniers when you sort the comments by new
yup
Yup
Reported them all.
Bustin' makes me feel good!
@@Eunacissnitch
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Mad respect for covering this tragic time in history. Thank you
As a Greek-American, I grieve for the Armenian victims of the Turkish genocide. Let no one forget, at that point in history, the Turks had victimized and slaughtered other Ethnic people. Principal of which is the genocide of the Pontic peoples living on the shores of he Black Sea. Also, but more egregious, was the murder, depopulation, and expulsion of Ethnic Greeks living on the shores of Asia Minor. One city, Smirny, was ethnically cleansed of all Greek-speaking peoples who had lived on the shores for the last 2500 years. English and French ships witnessed the slaughter and did absolutely nothing. 200,000 Greek-speaking people were murdered. The rest were expelled from Asia Minor. ... Now there's a story for you, Simon.
The British admiral ordered the band of his fleet to play music so he can't hear the screams....
Yes, Sir Simon Whistler, please feature also the Greek genocide and the Asia Minor catastrophe. People need to know about the War crimes and atrocities Turks committed in the same period. 300,000 Assyrians were also butchered by Turkey
Ahahaha you guys are just pathetic, you guys think ottoman empire slaughtered all ethnic groups in its own territory guess what ottomans ruled nearly all balkans and greek regions for centuries but neither of these balkan countryies or greeks speak turkish but france and britain colonized africa for just like 200-300 years and all of that african countries are speaking french-english and if you think they murdered millions in africa but you greeks or armenians or all europe never talk about this yet europe still tkaes money from african goverments but still pretends like an Angel and no one talk about that shit or you guys begging germany for money(turkey too) but you guys never blame or talk about jewish genocide or americans you said you are half american right?they murdered millions of
American indians but no one blame or talk about that too as i said you guys are pathetic most of the people like you just racist to turks,you guys dont give a shit about armenians or genocide you guys just hate turkey and searching something to blame about (im turkish yes but im not nationalist but people like you making me mad as i said you dont care about armenians you are just hate turkey) and you said about pontic or whatever those shit look you are just saying turks slaughtered greek speaking areas but dou you have any proof or document you are just speaking like that those you said problably never happened (if course some people died at wars or something but never they said like oooo im bored let go kill some greek ) fucking history
(I just found out there was a genocide against pontics but still this not the first genocide in history)
@@ismailakkoyun856 " whataboutism " is the definition of " pathetic "
But what you can expect from people who work for troll farms?
Doesn’t get mentioned a lot because people are too afraid of “offending” Muslims nowadays
No. Not really, it's just a topic that isn't talked about much.
Oooooooh dude erdogan is gonna be PISSED about this one.
yep lol
Once upon a time I had a patient who was a survivor of this genocide. She did speak english but she had dementia and sometimes her brain would go back to those days, so guess who she thought we were when we were all speaking English (orbmore simply NOT her mother tongue) you cant calm or redirect that when its your language being a trigger in that moment. She would completely forget all her English and get extremely violent. I can't imagine what terrifying reality her brain was crafting in those moments. What horrors she was forced to relive. I will never forget that woman for as long as I live. Dementia can be so fucking cruel.
Well, at least you were caring for her. You did good.
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Wow I already loved you and your channel but covering something so close to my heart as an American Armenian. Growing up in late 90s and being a fan of the OG History channel, I wouldn’t in my wildest dreams have thought The Armenian Genocide would be discussed/recognized by such respectful far reaching channels such as yours Simon. Much Respect to you for all your work giving us true entertaining media in the age of mindless TikTok 🌸 💜
Just a suggestion ; if you're really
interested in the Armenian Genocide maybe you could go to the effort of doing some research
yourself ? Plenty of source material available . Then again :
maybe a 15 minute Y T video is
all your brain can cope with ?
@@2msvalkyrie529 lol I’m Armenian and Greek I think I know my fair share 🙉 lover …go be a negative YT commenter somewhere else …because you’re a sad little person who’s got nothing better to do
@@2msvalkyrie529 is a genocide denier. He/she also denies the Holocaust. We don't waste our time and effort for people like him
@@armandotalampas4800 So he is a Nazi and a Turkish Nationalist? 🤢🤮
@@2msvalkyrie529
Read the comment man.
They are just thanking Into the Shadows for acknowledging the genocide, is a single sentence all your brain can cope with?
Well done Simon. I like everything you do and this one is close to my heart. Fourth generation living in Ethiopia.
As an Armenian, thank you for covering this. I get so exhausted of turks and Azerbaijanis trying to justify murdering my ancestors. That's the part that makes me sick today, when they say we deserve it and proudly say they will do it again.
Armenians commited the circassian genocide with russians
@@Hasanbas-rv3vmbut you won hear that in the west
One of the most heartbreaking things about the Armenian Genocide is that to this day, Turkey refuses to acknowledge it as such.
to regard a war as genocide is a western thing.
Maybe the Turks want what happened to them recognized first.
In the Balkans for example.
(1912-1914)
Do you find that "heartbreaking" as well?
Or when it's the Turks you don't care?
Or... Did you even ever hear of it?
5 million Turks living in the Balkans.
3 million killed by the Christians.
The remaining 2 million civilians deported.
@@James-rf1wn They do this in Syria, there is war in Ukraine, there is war in the Middle East, millions of estimated 10 million refugees come to my country, some of them are shot while trying to escape to Greece. they don't care, a couple of children with blond hair are crying, they are doing their best, then after a war the Turks deport the Armenians, the Armenians are starving, they say genocide but they comment. Ignoring that the Anatolian people are hungry, have maggots in their stomachs and are about to die of hunger, these events bring Turkey closer to the east. But you are right
Simon thank you so much, for covering such an important historical event. Suggestion for another video: "the years of lead" in Italy. I recently found out about it (I was born in the 90s) and I find it very interesting, as I bet many of your other viewers would as well.
I had an Armenian American coworker, and he was 5 years younger than me (66), and he had horror stories of his paternal grandparents' escape from this nightmare. His family hates Turks with a passion.
Well that´s racist innit, my families got butchered by Armenians as well, doesn´t mean I have the right to hate an entire ethnicity
Wow wtf, I hate these people with a passion as well. Like seriously, what did I do to you???
@@adidoki Point?
Israelis are fighting with Palestinians but y'all hate Israelis even more than Palestinians.
@@personaldove Who’s y’all? I love Israel, the Palestinians started this conflict and are continuing it, Israel is defending itself .
@@adidoki Not according to Erdogan and most of his supporters who are in the majority.
Heck you even gave platform to Hamas!
Thank you for this. Genuinely. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone go to such great detail with the background of my ancestors and the events leading up to the genocide as well as all the motivations and smaller “justifications” along the way. This is a necessary video and should be shown in schools along with other Genocide education. My own family history stops at 1915. My great grandfather refused to talk to us about anything. Even changed his last name to assimilate into the culture of Fresno, CA and hide. No one in my family even speaks the language anymore because he refused to teach my grandparents. I’m a scientist and I’m too scared to take a DNA test because I’m worried I’ll find Turkish DNA… which we all know how that would’ve gotten there. It pains me to even think about
Thank You Simon and crew for speaking out.
Look at a population distribution heat map of Armenians, Pontic Greeks and Assyrians around end of the 19th century and then compare with today. Obviously something happened to them.
Look at the demographics in Greece and Armenia of Turkish populations and compare them with today, big big difference. Just for your information during the 1990´s Karabakh war around a million azerbaijani turks were cleansed of their home, this wasn´t the first time either. Yerevan was majority Azerbaijani at the start of the 1900´s
@@adidoki At no point in history there were million people in Karabakh, let alone million Azeris. At most there were 600K Azeris and Kurds combined. Also the same can be said about 500K Armenians in Azerbaijan who got brutally pogromed by Azeri/Turkish nationalists Before the war even started. For example, Baku used to be 40% Armenian by the end of 1900s. I'm not even gonna mention that cities, such as Khojalu, Shushi, Jebrail, etc. were majority Armenian until they were deported or massacred by invading hoards and Persian shahs.
@@adidoki The majority of the population living in Artsakh/Karabagh were Armenians that is 90% of the population... The Azeris were mostly living in Susha/shushi and Agdam ... The hundreds of thousands of Azeris exiled were from Soviet Armenia during the Karabagh war , The same thing happened to Armenians living Soviet Azerbaijan ...
@@adidoki The majority of the population living in Artsakh/Karabakh were Armenians that is 90% of the population... The Azeris were mostly living in Susha/Sushi and Aghdam. The hundreds of thousands of Azeris exiled you talk about were from Soviet Armenia during the Karabakh war , The same thing happened to Armenians living Soviet Azerbaijan .
@@adidoki The majority of the population living in Artsakh/Karabagh were Armenians that is 90% of the population... The Azeris were mostly living in Susha/Sushi and Aghdam ... The hundreds of thousands of Azeris exiled you talk about were from Soviet Armenia during the Karabagh war , The same thing happened to Armenians living Soviet Azerbaijan ...
Greetings from Armenia. Thank you so much for creating this.
I'm sure the Turks in the comment section will be nothing but civil /s
As a Turk, im on the edge when it comes to 1915 tbh. If i consider the incident as a Turk, obvious that Turkey would’ve no chance to win the independence war. Turkey fought on one front (western) due to relocation. But on the other hand, a whole nation relocated to a desert.. Im a Bulgarian Turk whose family migrated to Turkey during f*ckin’ dictator Zhivkov’s era. So i do know how it feels. But one for sure, i hate how politicians trying to gain political influence over Turkey admitting a nation’s trauma. It’s so vile and disgusting. Only Turkey and Armenia can overcome. I feel like relocation was “whatever it takes” policy. If Armenian people want Turkey to recognize the incident as genocide, we have to. We owe them a deep/honest apology
You think the Armenian genocide is going to be rough to deal with Well I’m an Iranian Azerbaijani and the army of Islam tried to annex Iranian Azerbaijan the leader of Iranian Azerbaijan started guerrilla warfare against army of Islam we lost Tabriz for months and Nuri pasha put the rest of Iranian Azerbaijan through a famen in an attempt to annex us but here is the catch 22 the British empire didn’t allow us into the paris conference in an attempt to cover their ass for what they them self did so the Persian genocide during WW1 by Russia Britain and ottoman is covered up in a shit tone of crap
@Mi-Ae Hwang do you mean pantic Greeks
My Turkish Armenian grandfather had 4 of his 7 brothers killed by the Turks. Another was smuggled out of the country in a wagonload of dead bodies (he could never talk about this without crying) & the sixth brother presumably died when he was sent off on a forced march into the wilderness with nothing but the clothes on his back. All of his family's lands, wealth & possessions were confiscated. My grandfather & the remaining brother managed to escape to the US to establish themselves & move the rest of the family here. However, when it was time to send for his family, there was no one left to send for.
Thank you for making this video. My grandmother fled the genocide and she was the only one left in her family afterwards. Through hard work and perseverance she made it to the US and my family lives on with pride as Armenians. Stay strong.
I was in Armenia earlier this year and visited the holocaust museum, it's a harrowing story that I hadn't been aware of and you didn't mention the fire of Smyrna which was the ghettoing and then burning of a whole city of Armenians, up to 100,000 of them. Many of the visitors were tourists, although there were lots of Armenians leaving tributes by the flame that I presume lost family members in the genocide and were clearly emotional, but the tourist element were largely Russian, all looking very concerned whilst Russia is arming Azerbaijan in the border conflict and their motherland, having already conducted their own genocide in Ukraine, the Holodomor, were once again slaughtering Ukrainian civilians with their, "special military operation" We often see these things as historical anomalies but they continue today conducted by despotic leaders and with the tacit support of their citizens.
Greece burned Smyrna when Turkish Army came and took over Smryna again.
Thank you Simon. My grandfather came to America in 1914, just before things got really bad. He intended to become a doctor and return, but of course there was nothing to go back to.
@@muhan6831 citation needed
@@muhan6831 Of course the Ottomans lied about what happened.
@@muhan6831 See the article attached to the very video. Also, the 3 Pashas were convicted of crimes by their very own Turkish government.
@@muhan6831 I am Armenian of course.
He was lucky actually
Thank you for posting this. It heals us with every voice heard.
Thank you for this. Although I am not Armenian, their genocide coincided with 3 others in the Ottoman Empire perpetrated by the the Turks as well: Sayfo (Assyrian Genocide), Pontic Greeks Genocide, and the Kafno (Mount Lebanon Famine, the targets were mainly the Maronite Catholics).
I'm a Maronite and wish to point all of this out. The Ottomans were evil rulers towards the end of their reign.
You should do an episode on the Nanking Massacre, not a genocide in the "traditional" sense since the number killed is only a drop in the bucket for the greater Chinese population, but the amount of Chinese people senselessly killed by the Japanese Imperial Occupational Forces was still quite staggering. And like the Turkic government, the Japanese government still, to this day, refuse to acknowledge this event ever happened, going so far as to accuse the Chinese government of making up a fantasy tragedy despite the hundreds of foreign journalists, priests, and businessmen who witnessed the event. I believe that, at least according to some Japanese friends of mine, that Japanese history classes in school teaches that Japan only attacked China in response to a senseless slaughtering of Japanese nationals in Shanghai and that the occupational forces were "welcomed with open arms" by the repressed and enslaved Chinese people.
I believe he has at some time, he’s definitely talked about it before, on biographics
@@leviuzumaki3903 I know, but he would maybe do it again on here, I feel it belongs.
@@1003JustinLaw yeah I agree but I don’t know if he would but he might who knows.
hi i am a japanese. as you mention, i believe there was a massive killing in nanjing. but the number just doesn't add up. can not kill more people than the population of city back then. i do believe most japanese people will accept there was a mass killing. but it can not be like 200,000 or more. japanese schools are garbage. forget about those. no japanese trust school class anymore. i am not making up this. there is a reason why japanese school became so fake.
asian school are basically all fake or delusional about many things. this includes universities. but most people are kind of aware of the situation.
And now Turkey is murdering Armenians again and mo one is talking about it...
Thank you so much for calling it what it is - genocide.