Denying Your History | Armenian Genocide
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2019
- The Holocaust was not the first genocide, not even the first of the 20th century, and it was inspired by an event which took place three decades earlier.
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BIG OOF. :(
Sorry about that man well now you know better 😂😂 jk knowing better
That's a load of shit. damn. smh.
Where are the right wingers complaining about de-platforming and censorship now.
“It didn’t happen”-Turkish nationalist
“They deserved it”-also Turkish nationalist
* visible confusion *
Yılmaz Eren Aytekin You’re the one insisting for a lie.
Yılmaz Eren Aytekin we do have evidence.
Turkic Federation No matter what you say, there is concrete evidence that a mass killing occurred. It was a genocide.
@@feudela4357 I cannot say much about the topic since I do not have any ofical papers but my grandfather, who is currently almost 100 years old, used to tell me stories about how "Armenian traitors" were killed. We still have got a cassette tape of him telling the stories. However I do believe this matter is being over exaggerated. It was not orders straight given by Ottoman Sultans or Pashas, it was commaners who have planned most of it out locally. Actually government took actions once they saw the massacres were taking place but they did not do much. When it comes to your concrete evidences I hope you could read them well from this video as it is not really visible and that could be anyone's speculation. I would not suggest you make any accusation without knowing all the sides to the story
@Kayden Bolin There is some difference between 60k and 1.5-2M you know?
It disgusts me how many still deny the genocide today.
Glad to see you here
Many people still deny the Holocaust and Holodomor as well... Ignorant people have big voices
@@notallopinionswerecreatede4465 also there are tons of videos that atually have sources and reports unlike the holocaust deniers, the holdomor is a myth that only has lies and deceptions also most photos were from Hungary or lets say ww1 Austria Hungary whatever that shithole Monarchy was called kill all Kings alright
@@ShoreshFathi I found the tankie
Shoresh Fathi Are you a communist?
Edit - Tankie
Even if committing genocide technically 'wasn't against the rules' there comes a point where something so universally and immorally wrong shouldn't need to be explicitly stated for it to be considered immoral, if we went by the whole "wasn't against the rules at the time" argument then specific Germans wouldn't have been able to be prosecuted after WW2.
So why were Britain, France, and other Entente powers ever charged for any such crimes considering their history?
@@pressftopayrespects6325 War crimes only count if you lose. Winners never get prosecuted for their war crimes. That is the ultimate truth of geopolitic.
@@pressftopayrespects6325 because the amount of people they killed was much lower compared to these.
@@mechanicalsilence1 Nope, Britain and France in certain colonies alone killed far more people than the Ottomans in their entire history, wars included. Where the Ottomans necessarily good? No, but they were fairly normal and much less atrocious than other European colonial empires were.
@@pressftopayrespects6325 source ? Also, if you take in percentage, Ottomans killed much more, about 75% to be precise. The goal of colonies were never to exterminate another group of people. On top of that, France and Britain did admit that they participated in war crimes in colonies and they are not trying to belittle the unethical actions their ancestors made while Turkey does not even admit their was a massacre.
In regards to the rape aspect that you mentioned about 11 and 1/2 minutes into this video, it's because of one major thing: rape isn't done for sexual attraction. It's done to exert power and to harm and to humiliate or even dishonor someone. To destroy them. And that's why it's done so much in situations like these.
It can be both. It's mostly both. A lot of rape is over sexual attraction, but a lot of rapists also have issues with a lack of power (or the feeling of, lots have power but do not feel they do, people are complicated), and a need to exert said power in an unhealthy way. Some of the power stuff is in normal healthy sex too, this stuff is too complicated to say "x is always true and y is always false". Power is part of it, but also lots of soldiers are horny assholes with all the power and can do whatever they like. It's a big assumption to assume every soldier is a ideologue, most are just normal people who want a job, or a gun, or a position, or some mix. Most of the people who participated in genocide probably were less invested in the concept of genocide than in their paycheque. Indifferent even. They killed because they could and it was considered acceptable, if not encouraged, by their peer group and commanders. Doesn't mean they agreed with it. Apathy is it;s own evil.
It was about defiling the helpless innocents. There is nothing attractive or manly about it. It's dastardly.
Thank you! Another part of it is the middle eastern "ownership of wives" sentiment. It's thought that a way of exerting power over a man is to rape his wife.
There’s a symbolic aspect to it as well, especially during the time period being focused on in this context. Women were seen as a sort of motherly embodiment of their respective national identities, and sexual assault was weaponized in order to defile the “honor” of the enemy as a whole.
It's about power. That's what excites them.
"It's not genocide when the people I don't like die" - people who commit genocide
It's more like, is this objectively true or not? The truth is, people call lots of things genocide that aren't, by definition.
The issue isn't the atrocity itself. Rather, it's whether or not you are strict with how you label things.
Der el zor is not a dessert. Der el zor is very fertile. Because it's near the Euphratus River. In Mesopotamia, crops are harvested ten times a year near the river. Because there is no frost in the winter.
In addition, the Ottomans did not have any extra ships to wait in vain in the Black Sea during the war only to kill civilians. Also, what do you think happened to the captains and crew of the ships? Did they, too, commit suicide for this ridiculous mission? If the Ottoman wanted to kill the Armenians, why would it spend time with a fantasy by using ships? The state could kill them directly if they wanted to. So nothing like that happened. Those ships went to Russia. This was a deportation.
"Its not genocide when we almost killed everyone in that region but its genocide when we get responded with force" - Armenia
@@orkunyucel3095 Lol what are you smoking turk. "Relocating" someone in the middle of the desert with little to no food given is not a genocide eh? If the ottomans did have economic sickness (which they did) then why tf did they send these poor armenians in the middle of nowhere eh? Using your logic then they shouldve sent some turkish people as well eh? I mean turkish civs are just as vulnerable as the armenians were so why would they specifically "relocate" armenians only?
@@orkunyucel3095 You do know you sound like a Nazi defending the Holocaust right, finding excuses for actions or denying historical fact, does not help your case.
My Turkish Armenian grandfather had 4 of his 7 brothers killed during the Armenian genocide. Another was smuggled out of the country in a wagonload of dead bodies (he could never talk about this without crying) & the sixth brother presumably died when he was sent off on a forced march into the wilderness with nothing but the clothes on his back. All of his family's lands, wealth & possessions were confiscated. My grandfather & the remaining brother managed to escape to the US to establish themselves & hoped to move the rest of the family here. However, when it was time to send for his family, there was no one left to send for.
Thats so sad. Its truly disgusting to see Turks in the comments deny this.
This is so disgusting and sad. :(
im so sorry for your grandpa's loss
its sad to think same thing happening to yourself
@@stolenmemesfromdiscord im a Turk, and i still do not claim that Armenian "Genocide" existed, yes countless civilians gave away their lives in the event but all of it was west's fault, Armenians were one of the most honest societies in the empire and in some cases they were called "trustful citizens"
Armenian Genocide happened in 1915, but Turks are in Anatolia since 1071
if we take away the ones who fought in the War between nations, Armenians didnt rebelled until the 20th century
heck there wasnt even hatred to Armenians, during the Genocide Armenian doctors ( Avedis Cebeciyan ) and soldiers were fighthing in the Gallipoli War, alongside with Kurds, Arabs and Turks, its dumb to think that Ottoman Empire just belonged to Turks, the founders were Turks not everybody was Turkish at 1915
@@M60T goofy ahh comment 🤦🏿♂️
My grandfathers grandfather was killed in the pontic genocide, which went alongside with the armenian genocide. My grandfather still speaks pontic greek, and the way the international community ignores his reality and history upsets him to this day, it's something that weighs on me as well.
Thats terrible. I'm sorry that your forced to carry such horrible legacy
My great grandmother's father was killed in Smyrna. My family comes in large part from Asia Minor refugees. I am very happy that the Armenian genocide is recognised and I hope the Genocide of the Greeks from Pontus and other parts of Asia Minor is also recognised.
Don’t let it be forgotten, if you don’t speak it already learn Pontic Greek while you can
@@nickklavdianos5136 Most people are reactionaries. Greeks invaded Turkey and Turks massacred them. It was the Greek government that didn't evacuate the greeks form smyrna in fear of protests and coup. So the cycle goes on forever fueled by government propaganda
Thank you for mentioning this. I just looked this up and need to learn more Yes, we should reflect on this Holocaust. If you are American encourage the federally funded, 63 million annually, to have an exhibit on this. I am hopeful they will have Remembrance 2025, Armenian Holocaust, 110 Years. The federally funded US Holocaust Museum is in DC. I am hopeful the museum will look more holistically at Holocausts,which effected Americans including the Holocaust faced by our native people.
“It’s entirely possible that another war could break out at any minute”
This aged like wine
Came here to search for this comment lol
More like milk
And the USA (in essence) blocked almost everyone who wanted to help militarily, again placating Turkey.
@@pointingsoyjak4271 milk would be implying he was horribly wrong
Wait did another war break out?! I’ve been so damn out of the loop on international news.
"History rhymes more than it repeats."
That's a good quote, I think I'll use it sometime.
It's a variation of a Mark Twain quote
"History does not repeat itself, but it rhymes." -Samuel Clemens
It's a history mystery
Rhyme entirely intended
It's like poetry, it rhymes
The Star Wars trilogies rhyme too. Let the hate begin!
A quick correction: Anatolia has been called Turkey way before WW1. Many Italian cartographers during the 11th century AD, after Byzantines had lost much of the heartland, had already taken to labeling the interior Seljuk controlled territory as "Turchia". And Anatolia is still widely used both by the Turkish government and the people to refer to the region.
I have original copies of the British government's blue books series of correspondence and in 1895 they refer to Turkey on the covers.
@@artinvartanian4631 yeah turkey and ottoman difference are just fabricated by historians to teach them more easily (much like byzantine and east roman)
@@artinvartanian4631 anatolia called turkey during the 11th century AD this is even in history documents described and there was no armenian genocide anatolia belongs to Turkish people not to armenians death to Asala
@@rageywrath5020 Gosh, why do genocide deniers have such poor grammar?
@@emperorpalpatine6239 cause they are ignorant liars, however, they know turks were foreign invaders to Anatolia
As a Turkish person I can say that they don't teach the armenian genocide at all here to students and if they mention it they say it didn't happen it's disgusting honestly
Is it because of natinalism ?
Atatürk'ün nutkunu aç da oku neler yapmışlar Ermeniler
Sakin kendine ben Ataturku seviyorum, Turkiye benim devletim falan deme tamam mi? Kazim Karabekir'in kemikleri sizliyor. Yazik.
To recognize that a Genocide took place is only an acknowledgement that it happened, not an accusation against modern Turks. We in the U.S. have our own sordid past (slavery for one, and the horrible treatment of Native Americans). I dont think acknowdging the genocide reflects or shames Turkey today. It was a different time.
glad to see a woke turk
Germany: doesn’t lie about their history, apologizes for what they’ve done and educated future generations
Japan: *I’m gonna do what’s called a pro gamer move*
@JAMES FARIA turkey did not do it , ottomans did . We are not ottomans anymore so why do we need to apologize, will apologizing give the dead back ?
@@overabusedsalmon1238 apologising once would be a good start
@@overabusedsalmon1238 Atleast don't fucking deny it
@@nunoramos2027 I dont deny it but I think apologizing for a century old thing is ridicilous
League of Anime Uçak Well it was still a genocide, a single actual apology would help.
that Archduke guy sounds pretty cool
He killed lots and lots of animals
👌
Watch out in Sarajevo bud
Great music
Oh, what fun!
I only learned of the Armenian Genocide in high school because I listened to that nu-metal band, System of the Down and while reading about them and their heritage, I came across it.
Finally, two years ago, Biden made a statement recognizing it. But only because it became politically expedient to do so.
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same. some girl i ask if she liked them she said she hate byob. 'my (family member) wont stop playing it on guitar hero and it's about nothing' im like 'its literally about genocide' n it kind of obvious she into tokio hotel mostly cos she thought the guy was hot n she liked the aesthetic. idk thanks for bringing back memories.
😂😂
False
At least he did it.
My great grandmother lost everything to this genocide, her home, her family, and most disturbingly... her name. Because it happened when she was young, she didn't even know her birth name, just the name given to her in a greek orphanage, Esther Acsorian... Acsor meaning exile/deportee
Lies 😂
@@HioloiDegenerates like you shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
@@HioloiI eat turkey everyday lol
Not Even My Name, by Thea Halo, published 2000: "Although Turkey actively suppresses the truth about the murder of almost three million of its Christian minorities--Greek, Armenian, and Assyrian--during and after World War I, and the exile of millions of others, here is a first-hand account of the horrors of that genocide."--Goodreads
That's horrible.
You’ll notice that the same people who deny genocide, often will imply that it would have been totally deserved if it did happen.
Just like Nazis
It's not their fault. I'm Turkish and this is what our schools teach us so this is what we are supposed to say
Lol
@@elmascapo6588 just like the antifa and the billionaires
@@plasma2125 What the fuck does that have to do with any of this?
"in every friend group there's always that 1 person that doesn't quite belong"
Damn I know that feeling
im the one that doesnt belong 🥺
I would be in the same situation but I'm not in a friend group..
Wait, if I don’t know who in my friend group is that person…
That hurt
you caused a genocide too?
"We didn't do anything. But they deserved it"
-Ottoman Empire
POV : your living in christian country who needs blacksheep country
Also we dont say they deserved because of genocide we talk about how russians provocation armenians in north. Most of them were traitors. They lived with us even sultan called them trustfull nation and even gived them hazine anahtari(bank key or treasure key of country idk how you translate this to the nglish) when rums (or other minorties)and armenian were in fight we always were armenians side bruh you guys dont even know other side of story and talk sh#t on us. I wish you could talk about England and Spain(colonism,genocides,making people of the same race fight) like that
If you really wanna blame someone blame austria and russians who maked them rebel to ottoman with slavism(they even make bulgarians slav which they are'nt with slavism)
@@ampulsuper Plenty of people in European countries or European descendants will acknowledge the atrocities committed by their ancestors. You should stop deflect blame and acknowledge that Turkey is almost entirely at fault for what happened to the Armenians.
@@benz6217 can you shut up and search slavizm. Did you really think we hated armenians why we attacked them ? Did we just change our minds and said wow this race isnt have same religion like ours and killed all of them(!) Are turks barbarian to you? We had war with our citizens(armenians) because we wanted have fun?
8:50 Thanks for mentioning Assyrians, who history often forgets. Although 350,000 is on the lower end of the range of estimates, it is a large percentage of a population of about 3 million at the time. However, I will say that ironically, the "deportation" of Assyrians from different parts of the Ottoman Empire (which also occurred in Persia) to Syria and Iraq was a big step in reuniting many disparate tribes of Assyrians and led to a stronger national consciousness which today pervades much of the diaspora around the world.
What next, you gonna tell me something happened in Tiananmen Square as well?
Haha, yeah. Or that the US committed a genocide?
@@internetomatic Worst part is that the face of the man who did it is on the 20$ bill.
What
Nothing happened nope nothing at all. Hold on someone is knocking at my door
Олег Козлов capitalist propaganda!
Now buy our cheap products.
“Turkey is that friend to the United States”
Just Turkey? Could have sworn we had a ton of those
We are one of those friends
**cough** Saudi Arabia **cough**
cough North Korea cough
Well so long as they got beef with Russia we pretend they are ok
@Matthias W
Um, what? North Korea is not a US ally 😂
It’s crazy to me as a descendant of polish holocaust survivors that this Special Organisation was almost identical to the SS-Einsatzgruppen that burnt down my family’s homes and marched them off into the forest…
Armenian genocide denial is enabling fascism just as holocaust denial is
why?
i mean you guys are denying the genocide you people committed towards turks
"49 states recognize it--and before you ask, it's Mississippi." I shouldn't have laughed, but it was executed so well.
This comment has the perfect amount of likes, keep it that way
What is the deal with mississippi and with the feds?
@@Jabberwockybird
As someone from the South, Mississippi is extraordinarily backwards, even by southern standards. There is a NOTICEABLE difference when crossing the border into Mississippi.
@@WelloBello no missisipisi just based
@@niggacockball7995 Based on who? Some quaint little French town called Mississippi?
RIP to monetization. Another necessary video censored by RUclips because it talks about unhappy topics
Well I guess there is only so much RUclips can do when the advertisers have been known to leave when too many ads are shown with "unhappy topics"
*Cough* adpocalypse *cough*
You also lied about this topic on your channel, you won’t reply because facts are not in your favor. No wonder you call yourself the “AlternateHistoryHub.”
@@pressftopayrespects6325 Okay then, mind telling us why? I’ve done my own research on the Armenian Genocide and it seems like both Cody (AlternateHistoryHub) and Knowing Better were accurate. I care a lot about the accuracy of historical depiction, and these people seem to be doing that job quite well, in spite of RUclips’s unprecedented corruption, they refuse to stop educating people on these events, and the Armenian Genocide is necessary for knowledge because it’s denied by its country, even civilians who speak the truth about this mass murder of the Ottoman Armenians are punished. Because they speak the truth. As someone born in the UK can say, every country, ethnicity or group in history has done something we’re not proud of, which Cody said best in his video. And by acknowledging this genocide for what it really is, then we can learn from it and become better people. Historical inaccuracy - whether downplaying or glorifying these events, should be discouraged because it paints an unfair picture that we can’t properly learn from because it doesn’t correspond with reality. So please, lay out the information for why these people are wrong.
RUclips is Ratarded
This is like Japan in WW2, where they will ALWAYS deny it, where RUclips is on their side and will demonitize truth
There are two ways that genocide denial can be done. One is to excuse or ignore the deaths. The other is to paint any event which causes widespread deaths as a genocide. One minimizes the fatalities, the other trivializes it.
And yet somehow Turkey manages to do both at once.
you also deny turkish genocide by greek,s , armenians revolt and killing thousands of turks and kurds .
@@eroseros47 I have done nothing of the sort. Were you replying to the wrong comment?
@@eroseros47the turks killed a million Armenians
@@eroseros47 because there was no turkish genocide done by armenians and greeks
Thank you for doing this! My family fled during the Armenian Genocide and we ended up in New York City. It’s shocking how still today, people ignore or don’t know about the Armenian Genocide. 🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲
Please support Remembrance 2025,Armenian Holocaust,110 Years at the federally funded US Holocaust Museum in DC by contacting them requesting this exhibit.
of course people dont know because it didnt happen
@@ugurkaya31 I wish you were correct. My family would not have had so much heartache.
The term Holocaust was first used by Churchill to describe the Armenian Holocaust. I think this term is more meaningful than genocide.
😂😂 lies. They migrated to USA because ottomans were collapsing and had no resources left.
Next episode of "our allies are monsters": Saudi Arabia
I don't think that'll surprise anyone
Israel, Lebaneese Forces, and the Juntas of the Middle East
Abdallah Manasrah pretty much everyone from the Middle East is a monster
@@seanhurley9216 I must be the cookie monster then
Most people don't know the evil those monsters have brought to the world
Saudi Arabia is a small pet compared to the monster the US has been all these time
I beg you, don't disable comments! I will return later with popcorn.
Right? Angry Turks incoming
Ulttin ne? Qazaqsın ba?
Make me some too
@@blgramҚазақпын, иә. Сонымен?
Nurauzhan .Kushkinbayev чё
I would really love to listen to your take on Holodomor in Ukraine.
Hi
Sadly, there are deniers of that event
@@exudeku as with every genocide
@@pidpilnahumanitarka some people are ideots
Holodomor was caused by Ukrainian farmers who refused to collaborate with the Soviet Union. It wasn't a genocide
I did not know anything about this until several years ago, when a group of local businesses run by Armenian American families began running radio ads where they would explain parts of the history. It was interesting to hear an ad with another bit of information about the history, and then have it say, "brought to you by..."
I also didn't know there was such a large Armenian population where I live, either.
I often wondered if the station was run by someone of Armenian descent, because while very informative, I could also see an adult contemporary music radio station not wanting to touch the subject with a ten foot poll. It is kind of a 180 to fade out from early 2Ks pop, into a commercial break length story of genocide, and then go back to some 80's song.
It’s like, how Belgium’s king killed 10 million Congolese, yet everyone forgot.
The only difference there really is Congo was deemed the private property of the king. Not really a part of the state at all.
DMTTMC Yes.
@@DMTTMC Yet there's still a king, probably from the same royal family too so there's that.
@@johnd.7606 says something about the internet that I can't tell if you're joking or not
Listen to the yell of Leopold's ghost,
Burning in Hell for his hand-maimed host.
Hear how the demons chuckle and yell,
Cutting his hands off, down in Hell.
- The Congo, Vachel Lindsay
It's crazy to me that this video is demonetized. I understand the "algorithm" thinking it may be inappropriate but seeing that the manual review wasn't approved either...
RUclips is silly
Yea well it has to do probz with advertisers. It'll be an easy scoop for media: "Pepsi sponsors a vid aout the armenian genocide" and a chunck of revenue in turkey is gone.
@@Benbobr RUclips really needs to have a different ad system for educational creators with a proven record of being advertiser friendly. Especially when it comes to history.
@@maxhydekyle2425 agreed but that still doesn't defeat his argument that this vid would play horribly in many countries
They should just show ads for Butterball and just act like the algorithm got confused.
My guess is "the algorithm" has a list of words and phrases that if it detects it automatically demonitizes to be safe
14:00 "All Turks hate Armenians", simply not true. Central Asian Turks, such as myself, do not hate Armenians. I am an Uzbek we never had a historic interaction with Armenians, thus, no hatred nor love could be possible. We are neutral towards Armenians.
Theres not even "hatred to armenia" at here turkey. The whole video is complete bs made to satisfy armenians.
@@justarandompersonininterne6583 I don't know about the situation in Turkey because I have never been there. However, I have noticed while I like his videos for their depth of the subject. In most of the videos the author is little biased, which is OK in most of the times I guess. But sometimes, like in this one. It is just not acceptable.
He meant Turks from Turkey not Turkic People from Central Asia .
@@britishcountryball8812 so what,we dont even give any fucks about armenia at here turkey,no one fucking cares about thrm except erdog supporters thinking were going to be a caliphate. Also no,you cant say 1.5 million died while theres only 880 thousand lived in ISTANBUL. Not eastern turkey. "Genocide" is complete bullshit made by russians to make armenians revoly
@@britishcountryball8812 bruh... Did you watch the video at all? Literally at 13:45 he generalized all Turkic speaking nation into "Turks"
You remind me of my favorite high school history teacher. He was really old and back from retirement but when actual history wasn’t in the text book, he would read to us from HIS history book, an American history reference book he acquired while getting his doctorate in history. He was very animated when he spoke. You could tell he loved history.
none of my history classes ever talked about the Armenian Genocide. as someone with heavy Armenian heritage, it’s a little frustrating to see the suffering of my ancestors ignored.
Archer Is Trash hey man I hear your suffering same about the Ukraine 1932-1933 millions of Ukrainians
Nikolay Lesiv it’s crazy how many mass deaths are ignored for convenience
As a Turkish person it frustrates me to just think that people deny this, because of too much nationalism.
I learned about it in eight or ninth grade, so hopefully it's becoming less common.
Archer Is Trash I’m Greco Armenian so yeah I rlly understand
The map of recognition isn't correct, Sweden recognizes the genocide and did so in 2010.
Hopefully, more countries recognize it. I also hope at some point Japan cleans out their skeletons.
@@saber2802 I agree, and looking at Germany it shows that accepting the guilt, paying for the crimes and moving on is better than perpetual denial.
What was the Holdup?
@@steamnamebbderinvade__ like knowing better said. A lot of countries rely on Turkey in one way or another, the refugee crisis is a good example of that. Where Turkey made a deal with the EU to deal with a large portion of the refugee coming from the middle East.
@@ShallowContrarian LOL Germany is only accepting their own guilt because they are cucked by the allies and that Germany itself is controlled by outside powers.
Rape in genocide is usually committed as a humiliation tactic
Well, now I know how the nazis got all their ideas
They were also allies in WWI
@@Anonymous-cm8jy not allies but gave a lot of help with exports and pr support.
@@Anonymous-cm8jy not true
@@xander1201 They were officially friends, all that Turkey didn't do was declare war. Turkey was the one country where gold taken from murdered Jews fetched a decent price, the Turkish gold Market helped keep the German war machine afloat. Also essential exports of minerals ect
"History rhymes more often than it repeats"
goddamn
And now Turkey is at it again in Kurdistan
“It’s like poetry, sort of they rhyme. Every stanza kinda rhymes with the last one. Hopefully it’ll work.”
-George Lucas on the genocide of childhood memories of a galaxy far far away.
“Yousa people gonna die”
-Darth Binks
@@robinlinnekausrud5246 kurdistan doesnt exist u ballsack
@@tarkates4005 Not yet. Besides, you understood what I meant perfectly.
@@robinlinnekausrud5246 not yet and never will, only in your dreams commie
A lot of Armenian Genocide Deniers sound like Holocaust Deniers. They try to argue stupid technicalities.
Same as people who try to excuse Stalin's regime. Or those denying genocides of people based on race during colonialism in multiple places
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 As long as you downplay other sides suffer you should not expect them to respect or understand you. This is the main reason you hate Turks but you do it yourself.
Gkh Cft He didn’t say he hated Turks. We can maintain harmony while recognizing a side is being fairly one sided about their nation’s involvement in a crime.
@@feudela4357 No one in Turkey wants to maintain harmony because of revanchist attitudes of Armenians and no Armenians want to maintain harmony because Turkey does not recognize what happened to Armenians as genocide. And I can't see a future where Armenians and Turks live side by side ever again even if Turkey recognize genocide.
@@gkhcft4149 Downplay other side? You really are coming from nowhere with your argument... What am I downplaying exactly? The Ottomans killed pver 2 million Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians combined, and today they occupy their land and spit on their graves by denouncing the existence of the genocide... Not saying all Turks are like this, but Erdogan and his supporters certainly are. There has been for a long time a presence of fascism in Turkey, this is the problem.
Stumbled upon your site. History lover and happy to see folks like you posting historical events.
empires inciting rebellion through cruel treatment and then claiming self defense in order to commit genocide? sounds like something happening rn…
It is not that rare with radical extremist goverments. After Three pashas it was national struggle from thereon.
Wait a minute. There's a class on skillshare about commiting genocide?
It's just a Turkish history book
Learn a new skill
@@someonedraws4208 r/cursedcomments
Based skill share
I know just think how much more efficient solutions to the "Armenian question", the Jewish Problem" could have been!
wait a non-armenian talking about the genocide not on the anniversary?!?! thank you from a greek-armenian.
This guy looks like he could be Armenian tho 😂
Greek armenian is basically the arch nemesis of turkish nationalist
@David McDonald if your grandmother and/or grandfather were procecuted made to walk through deserts and lost countless of their relatives you would want their suffering to be recognised
@David McDonald i do agree it won't change much but still it is a nice thing to do
@David McDonald then we can talk about reparations
Thank you for this video 💚 I don’t think you know how uplifting it is to see a non-Armenian educating about very real horrors that keeps being undermined and denied. I personally have already become so numb to the denial, the gaslighting makes me feel like I’m crazy. Thank you for validating our experience 🥰
I swear the sponsor and end scene comes sooner than I want every time
Just keep talking, I love the teaching style
16:30... Wait... They actually use that as a "defense"??? Wow.
"I didn't know murdering a lot of people based on ethnicity was bad, we hadn't invented it as a concept yet."
It's not _"I didn't know",_ it's that it just wasn't on the books. Wanna hear a better one? Nazis successfully used _"You did it too"_ as a defence in their trials.
@@Ronni3no2a fair distinction, thanks to good ol American apple pie! ;)
That's probably one of the strongest arguments actually. It's not that the word didn't exist. It's that the act at the time wasn't regarded as such a bad thing as it is today.
It's anachronistic to try to judge them with today's values. At the same time we can use those same values to remember and learn
@@fgsaramago Not true. It happened only one century ago. Christianity, Islam AND international law forbade it, using different words than "genocide". If genocide had been an acceptable thing a hundred years ago, it would have been acceptable 20 years later (the Jewish holocaust) as well. It wasn't. The fact that people all over the world were reporting on it and eventually came up with a term for it, further illustrated the inacceptability of it. The world was horrified. The Armenian genocide is unknown to youth today NOT because it wasn't a big deal back then, but because corrupted politicians won't let us mention it.
@@TheJenniferKK I'm afraid you're right. Even before WW1, the Turks had a history of shocking the world by doing some pretty brutal things.
"Not everyone should achieve their goals."
Hitler's goal was to be an artist.
Artist with blood as main colour
Jack Wilson as crazy as you sound, you are closer than most people would care to believe.
@@jackwilson9468 this has to be one of the most confusing things I have read. The second world war came from the after effects of the end of the Great War in Germany. How Hitler came to power was basically because of all the economic hardships and social tension present during the interim wars in Germany. Had nothing to do with Jews other than them being a comfortable scapegoat for Hitler to blame all the socio-economic problems of Germany on, which, he isn't alone doing so in history.
Go watch some from Potential History, might help you.
@@Newkeassassin please tell me you are joking and not just a brainlet
Jokes aside, he wasn't even bad at it.
The Turkish official government website claims that just as many Turks died during the same time period😂😂
It did. That doesn't mean genocide didn't happen.
@@fatihkilbil exactly. The Turks died cuz of the soldiers in the war. Not innocent civilians that were genocided
@@johnford9070 Nah, there were Armenian insurgents that killed Muslims civilians.
It’s clarifying to Google “turkish genocide”, “armenian genocide”, “greek genocide” and “assyrian genocide”. The results are relentless.
I did a paper on this for my history workshop class this semester. This video was part of my initial research.
Who today remembers the annihilation of the Armenians? Hitler August 1939
Amen and thanks for mentioning that!
could you prove this? When and where did he say that? I am sure you cant because this is a made up thingy
@@ugurrr literally google "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" and look it up.
@@ugurrr Seriously? You're talking about made up thingies? Come on Even some of your own people find it hard to believe the lies turkey spreads i suppose it's a struggle to live in a country like that, people there are getting cynical about everything I see ...
@b12 o Wow! Fox News owns your soul! Go light a candle and rub some honey on your brass idol of Ann Coulter. LMAO
To maybe help with the confusion on why rapes happen in events like this or wars in general. Rape is not sex. Rape is violence.
@@weakspirit_ whos denying genocide?
@@TheMaxwilder Turkey.
Yeah, even with stranger rapes outside of war, it's usually an expression of hatred towards women or a specific ethnic group, etc.
True. Its about flexing power and domination.
It is a snuggle with a struggle.
I have a small circle of Turkish friends and all of them told me that they are disgusted by this genocide and how their government still encourages denial of it.
Many Turkish Muslims tried protecting their Christian neighbours just like how a lot of Polish Christians tried protecting Jews during the Holocaust. Also many Turks are educated, it is the government that is the problem. Turks are mostly cool. Nice fashion industry, great hair follicle surgery industry, etc.
Let me explain you what happend really and not just say bad shit about the country ı dont like . So basically , turks were in a war , (ww1) ottomans were starting to corrupt , while they were in ww1 russians started to make ermenians ( olso ermenians were called ‘’millet i sadıka ‘’ which stands for trusted race , trusted people ) attack the east side of the ottomans this ermenians were killing turks and putting turkish houses on fire ect. And the goverment had to do smt abt it so they decided to move them ( and do not forget ottomans were a muslim country they nearly never did a genocide ) but while moving them what coudle ottomans do ? They didint had much money and force , they did their best but some ermenians died and it wasnt really ottomans fault ( ı mean it was ermanians attacking turkish villages at the first point ) and you can go read the ‘’ tehcir law ‘’ if u dont belive me ( dont be a sheep , read some books)
@@levverc-opsyt688 Dude, you're literally the exact type of genocide denier the video talks about. The Turkish propaganda taught you right.
@@fooooooooooooooo also the ridiculous religious justification, "we are innocent, as we are of the good religion"
"a muslim country they nearly never did a genocide".
Which is ludicrous knowing that religions+politics is often a dangerous mix.
One of the saddest things is going to my family history tree and seeing so many ancestors and relatives death date be 1915 😔
"History rhymes more often than it repeats." That's a wonderful line.
I believe the original phrase is "history doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes" by Mark Twain
The US and our strained relationship with the Native-Americans... or the Mexicans...
*US has left the chat*
@@scottjs5207 the USA has a great relationship with both Mexico and Canada and natives Americans are like less than 5 million in this country that is like 1 percent of this country there are more immigrants in America from different countries and how is our relationship strained with them nobody is racist to native they have programs to protect their heritage and shit like that hell they even have pocket nations inside the United States if that isn’t having a good relationship with them I don’t know what is imagine if in America ethnicities like Hispanics Germans French British Africans and so on had their own mini pocket nations and weren’t told to assimilate into American culture and had programs that made them connected to their culture and you have the audacity to say we have a strained relationship with Mexico and native Americans your not only a liar but a stupid one too :/
@@bornstar481 you literally spell it out in front of you
"The native americans arent even 1% of this country"
"We have sites dedicated to keeping their heritage protected"
Hmm, the Native Americans are only 1% of the population of America? And need cultural sites to keep their culture alive? Why the fuck do you think that is? Its almost like we nearly wiped out their population due to nationalist and racist motivation, and we now need to keep them on reserves like theyre some kind of endangered animal. You contradict yourself in each sentence that you type but youre calling him stupid? It wouldve taken you 5 seconds to read your own damn comment and connect the dots.
@@davidthelong2154 someone failed history...
Russians and Turks: Have conference in Berlin about the “Armenian Question”
Germany: *Write that down, Write that down!*
Probably shouldn’t have laughed at that but, that comment was funny.
A turtle doesn't approve of this cursed comment.
@@just_a_turtle_chad a sus turtle
Haha 😒 funny
Nice pfp lol
Thank you for having this video, it's always nice when someone brings attention to the event that Turkey continues to deny.
Armenian Genocide 2.0 is currently happening in former Artsakh.
11:40 Rape in these cases is rarely about sexual desire and is mostly fueled by control, desegregation, and hate. It's motivated by a desire to demonstrate that you can take whatever they want from them and there's nothing they can do about it. You own them, it's the ultimate crime to be committed against a person. Hate for a person fuels rape, love motivates you to stop rape. You can't rape someone you love, so hated groups will always be the most susceptible to rape. BTW I really like your content
@J purple ramen Yeah but people hate rape more than murder. Just watch an action movie, often the good guys kill lots of people but the good guys don't rape, because it's considered an unjustified crime under all circumstances.
Sure, but good guys usually dont murder. To kill and to murder is not the same thing. To kill someone can be justified, and it is murder when no such justification exists.
yea I get what u mean, taking someone else’s life can be justified there is no reason to ever rape someone
@@TheKripox murder is a legal term and it has nothing to do with justification and everything to do with local law. Oftentimes the good guys kill whether it's legal or not.
So they raped men as well?
Ladies and Gents, grab your popcorn! You're about to see a completely civilized and mature discussion in this comment section.
Knowing Better comment sections are pretty good. Well relatively.
@@maxhydekyle2425 Shut up!!!!! Sorry. I just had to ruin it.
WHAT DID YOU CALL MY MOTHER?
The comment section be like "well actually..."
There is no single comment that starts with ''well actually..'' you just wanna start some shit and then complain about it.
One of the things I was most grateful to my history teacher for was spending time on this topic and making sure we all knew the truth about it
I am of turkish descent and unfortunately have to confirm that irrational hatred of arminians is deeply rooted in turkish society.
It's desperate.
it did not happen
@@ZaxTheAl1en It did lol, denying it is like denying the holocaust
@@UserOfTheName I think it was 6 billion right?
@@ZaxTheAl1en The Holocaust was 6 million Jewish victims and around 4 million other victims
The most ironic thing: Archduke Ferdinand supported Serbian independence, he would have let them leave after he became emperor; he was The crown Prince.
I thought he would have let the Southern Slavs form a third kingdom in the Austro Hungarian Empire and elevate them. This action would have prevented Serbian political hegemony of Yugoslavia. A Serbian officer ordered the assassination after all... (and why would any Emperor let someone go?? We're talking about Bosnia not Serbia which was already independent. The nationalist Serbs sought Yugoslavia not just Bosnia, which had many ethnic groups)
Why didn’t they assassinate the warmonger of the dukes instead of the peacemaker?
@TheBrodsterBoy xD
@@jwil4286 They killed him because of that not despite that. Serbian-Jugoslav ambition went further. The crown prince's ideas wasn't enough but enough to appease most of the region. Serbs and Bosnian Serbs wanted all of Jugoslavia. That's why anything exploded in WW2 again with Croatians collaborating with the Germans. Tito's Serbian led communist Jugoslavia was the result and with Tito's death, the genocides of the 90s. Which were successfully stopped by NATO. Today the region is at peace. But Serbia still dreams of Greater Serbia and is erecting statues of Gavrilo Princip. Since more and more ex-jugoslavian countries join EU and/or NATO. Their dream, anybody's else's nightmare, is dead.
Yeah he supported lots of modern reformation along with social welfare but some people dont really care about that they just see him as an obstacle towards freedom.
I don't blame the son for the sins of the father, but at least recognize and acknowledge your ancestors mistakes. The past can't be changed but the future can.
@hasan veysel erol
A thief who robbes out of greed or out of hunger? That makes a difference.
A murderer who kills out of joy or out of danger? That makes a difference.
A genocide for what ever reason?
I need the reasons from the criminal himself to evaluate the degree of cruelty.
And if you dont agree with this simple principle of justice than you are either emotional which impairs your sense of justice or a uncivilized, uncultured swine.
@hasan veysel erol" if a person defends a genocide, than he is also a criminal"
I seriously hope that you are joking. Are you still a child?
Thats like saying a lawyer ,who defends a 100% criminal person, becomes through the act of defending a criminal himself. You really are living in a dream world.
LOOK I AM NOT SAYING THAT THERE COULD BE ANY JUSTIFICATION GOOD ENOUGH FOR SUCH A CRUELTY, but your low brain capacity really hurts my brain.
@hasan veysel erol MY GOD!!!
I told you everything in my first comment in a coherent way and you still act like you dont know.
I can believe how dumb people can be smh...
@hasan veysel erol nobody gives a shit if you like it or not. Thats not the point. The point was that YOU said every defendant is a criminal.
Now tell me again that you agree with that. I want to see your ass in court one day without you allowed to say a word and without a lawyer.
Very true
In Gallipoli there were also Australians and it has become one of our most significant and symbolic military actions FYI. Every year, Australian's make the trip there with the support of the Turkish government to commemorate the event.
another thing the armenian genocide has in common with the holocaust is that the turks also used poison gas to kill armenias like the nazis would eventually do. and while we are on the topic i would like to mention that the 3 main leaders responsible for the genocide met violent deaths. enver pasha was killed in combat leading a revolt against soviet russia and the other 2 talaat pasha and djemal pasha where tracked down and killed by armenian assassins.
"But 49 states do. It's Mississippi, before you pause the video to google it"
Of COURSE it's Mississippi! It's ALWAYS Mississippi! What is wrong with that state!?
You answered yourself "It's Mississippi"
Everything about Mississippi is what’s wrong with Mississippi. I mean, their state flag says it all.
Although I’m sure the people down there are nice.
@@ajiththomas2465 we need to make a missisipi sea
@@ajiththomas2465 *mississippi
there name has no a
Knowing Better: "I don't wanna be known as 'The Genocide Channel'
Also Knowing Better: *Posts this video*
Chrissy The Conqueror
I remember when he said that
it was necessary to spread the word, and to debunk these awful lies. you can never hide the truth.
@@adrianatgaming8640 But the irony is still visible
*Denies Knowing better saying this in a turkish accent*
@@nekomancie7419 from where does he come?
I know this is a bit if an ild vid and not likely a comment you’ll read but I’d like to leave this message here anyway. Thanks for making the videos you make. I’ve never found school engaging and I often zone out and don’t learn much. Your videos are very interesting and fun to watch. (if im not crying about history I should have known) Thanks a bunch for making these videos they have made learning fun for me.
Your videos are amazing! I'm sorry they demonetize you for them but you are teaching people some of the only things that really matter... And for that I am beyond thankful!!
Knowing better: The first world war was the first global war in history
Seven years war: Am I a joke to you?
Hell, The 7 years war is can be called WW0
@@givemeyoureggs456 no it's the real world war one the one he's talking about here is the real world war 2
Brandie and UK&Colonies. owning France,Austria,Sweden and Russia colourised
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that
*The Prussians won that war*
@@theyoshi202 that's why it's not considered as one you're a genius
My great grandmother was an Armenian genocide survivor. In 1915, the Ottoman Turks showed up to her house when she was a child. They demanded my great great grandfather convert to Islam or die, and they beheaded him. They also beheaded his wife and nine year old son. My great grandmother and her three sisters ages ranging 4-12 knew this was coming and had prepared for it. They ran away into the wilderness and hid there for a few months. One day they saw a group of people marching and they were excited to see people who they though could save them. It was a death march. They joined the death march and realized what it was when it was too late. the youngest sister, age 4 was lost and was cut up and left in a mass grave. She was found be a Turkish or Arab family and taken in as a slave. She was a slave until she was 18 when she was able to leave. The other three made ur thorugh the death March until 1918 when Syria was given to France and they were sent to an orphanage in Lebanon. That was the first time in 3 years they had stable food and water and loved the orphanage. They eventually found a relative in America and went to live with them. The four sisters werent reunited until 1959, 44 years after they were split up. I don't get how Turkey cna continue to deny this.
I don't want to sound like an asshole nor am I denying the facts that it happened but was it this gruesome? I just have trouble believing the convert to Islam or die part because there was a thousands if not millions of non muslims in the Ottoman Empire
@@eatass1332 That's what I was told by my mother, but there is a book about it which has all of the events in it
This is terrible and I'm so sorry that your ancestors had to endure this unthinkably despicable sin. I give my condolences to your family.
@@eatass1332 You have to take Balkan Wars and WW1 into account, as well as change of Government.
Before that non-Muslims were fine, after Balkan Wars Turks started to forcefully convert people because non-Muslims could not be trusted anymore.
Just look at Eastern Anatolia, it was 50-50 in Greek/Turkish population. By 1923 there were less than 10% of Greeks in Eastern Anatolia.
my great grandparents fleed armenia sadly they never told there story to anyone :/
Thank you for talking about this. It's, never nice, exactly, to see people talk about it. But, it's always good to see. Nice to not have the genocide completely forgotten or brushed over for once.
Van wasn't a Turkish town, it was a Armenian town but under the occupation of the Turks.
Van was always a Turkish city. There was never an Armenian city.
@edaaslan7347 You don't even know your own history. If you like Turkey so much, you'd know you invaded everywhere that is the current borders of Turkey. Your homeland is central Asia.
@@Turdinkledge Turks, like every country, won their lands by fighting. The Turks did not invade, they made it their homeland. In addition, the fact that Armenians, Greeks, Kurds and Arabs other than Turks live in Turkish lands does not make Turkish lands their own. Our homeland may be Central Asia, but Turks are Anatolian.
My AP World History teacher went in depth with the Armenian Genocide and made sure we understood. I loved her. Her teaching style was to unearth history's secrets and then connect them to larger ideas. What an icon.
only if all history teachers were like yours.
We need more teachers like her.
@@Descreeet we learn all of this in our basic world history courses the more advanced the class the more in depth. World history gets taught over two years separate from American History which is also taught over two separate years
Esas Çocuk oh yeah marching them to deserts with no food and expecting them not to die is not genocide
@Mobile Emulators well, thanks for generalizing a whole race I guess. Whatever, everybody wants to play the victim card. Turks say Armenians killed men and raped women, Armenians say Turks killed men and raped women. I am not here for that shit. I just want you to look at demographics of Ottoman Empire in 1906-1907, weird right? If nobody can read the archives as everybody says, how this one is publicly shared? Whatever, just look at the numbers and come again if you find something interesting.
Aannnddd..... insta-banned in Turkey. (If Turkey hasn't banned RUclips already).
Turkey actually disabled RUclips for 6 weeks back in either 2012 or 2013, I can't remember.
@@talos_the_automaton2329 wtf? I am from Turkey and Instagram isn't banned
As if freedom measured by how much American platforms are accessible to you.
apple's lover buuut it is rather unfree to choose what your people have access to
Suprisingly Erdoğan didn't drop the ban hammer yet, i too am extraordinarily humble
Fatih Gul and you guys are just okay with the government banning platforms?
Thank you 🙏 love ❤️ this! You’re so appreciated!
I wonder how many angry Turks are in the comments.
So goddamn many
@@WaliTV-zr1yt A shame on both ends, and while I understand that the children of today are not beholden to the sins of their grandparents (or in some cases great-grandparents), the genocides must be acknowledged before they can move forward. Turkey wants to be seen as a great country? Start by acknowledging the faults of your recent history.
@@WaliTV-zr1yt why are you repeating (generally greeks and armenian) "don't deny" word every day? When armenians and greeks relaxed, we Turks can talk with them. They are more angry and brainwashed than us
Hitler: hey can i copy your work?
Turkey: Sure, but change it up a little so nobody notices.
Hitler: Okay!
Stalin to
@@aleeoid3410 * Mao
@@chillaxo9863 double fixed it.
Oh really u think Turks actually killed all those Armenians? U dont have proof to accuse us of doing so and ur just going on the internet accusing people of not doing ehat u think they did. Let me tell u the truth. They did bad stuff in our country so we got them away from the capital. To syria they went until they stopped doing what we told them to do and they died because the way was tough and they didnt eat much bc they wanted to disgrace everything we had. U happy now that u know the truth i dont think this will change ur opinion since a lot of u guys hate on us but im just tryina help u really
@@cyluxty3371 the Armenian genocide happened there is overwhelming evidence
It doesn't help that you have apologized for it
Shame on you
A sincere thank you for shedding a light on this.
As a christian lebanese, i learned the history of my ancestors who were persecuted during the maronite genocide by the ottomans which killed 1/3 of the country’s population
so Maronites were also targeted? Damn the Ottomans must have really held a massive grudge against the Christian minorities in the Empire
@@nguyenbaokhiem6728 yeah also assyrians and other christian minorities across the empire
@@nguyenbaokhiem6728 they were against basically every group of people they encountered and slaughtered into submission, something turks will also deny because apparently the ottoman empire was heaven on earth.
@Henzo88 who cares about regional dna changes for survival anyways.
11:49 That's because rape isn't really about sex. On the surface level, it is. But deep down, it's about power. It's about feeling strong, and in charge. It's about humiliating the person you think is "beneath" you. It's "soiling" them and making the relatives of the victim feel powerless when they fail to stop it. It's psychological torture as well as physical. Even outside of the context of War, rape is mostly some douchebag, frustrated about something, and releasing that frustration in the most base, personal, and invasive way. Regardless of gender, age, sexual orientation, etc, it's more about being "in charge", "in control", to be in a position of power above the person you are abusing.
Sexual gratification for the rapist is more or less secondary. Dominance upon the other is the priority.
I was hoping I'd find this comment somewhere. Such an important note.
@@saintjezebel My point being, if they just wanted sex, they'd have consensual sex. The fact that they decided to get sexual gratification through other means than consensual sex denotes something more brutal and debasing in their reasoning. As in, "I do not believe the person I raped for my own sexual gratification is worthy of respect/consideration/pity/etc." Whether you choose to believe it or not.
Edit: you don't even need some 50 pages long psychological study on the matter to see the truth in it. Just listen to the words of the rapists when asked why they did it. Some will say "for the sex", yes. But many others will also say several variations of "I wanted to put those bitches back in their place", or "I wanted to hurt them". To put it back in the context of war, some might even say "They were the enemy, therefore they were sub-human/did not deserve respect".
@@spearmint1570 Indeed.
@@saintjezebel Of course rapists say that. Many (especially date rapists) may even believe it. But even in their case... the reason it's rape is that they needed to control the other person. Maybe it's not about humiliation in their case, but it's still about control and subjugation and dehumanization. Otherwise, they'd take no for an answer, or not impair the other person's judgment, or not use their physical or economic power, or whatever other means they use to rape the other person.
And stranger rape, as described in this video, is absolutely an act of, not just violence, but outright hatred, not of sex.
Rape is always sex. Why are you adding so many other things up to name it from the "mating" category?
“Two olympic sized swimming pools full”. Americans will literally use anything other than the metric system
We use the metric system in our drug war. For example, as per 21 USC 841, under 5 kilos of coke is 5 to 40, while over 5 kilos of coke (or 400g of fentanyl) gets you 10 to life (first offense).
Friend 1: Hey man there's a fine ass lady two meters behind you..
Friend 2: What? 2 meters? What the fuck you talking about?
Friend 1: Sorry my bad, she's 264 golf balls behind you..
Friend 2: Damn right she's gorgeous
What would you prefer? Kiloliters?
@malcolm caden Did you not go to school?
@malcolm caden ... it's literally just 1000 liters
"It is possible for a war to break out at any moment"
That aged well
Thank you for raising awareness about Armenian genocide 😢🇦🇲
This is one if the bravest videos on RUclips. You should really be proud of yourself and please keep it up.
It is but it shouldn't be
I mean he did a lot more contraversial topics before.
Brave? Lol
Omega 01 dude in 2019 saying “hey guys” is brave 😂
Glink (cute Armenian youtuber) made a video about this a while back. History is sooo important and there is so much nuance that most people ignore totally. We need to speak about it.
I speak on behalf of the Armenians when i say we appreciate you and your efforts put into this video
Yep, it's the best video on the topic
100% with ya there. I wish he did a video on what recentely happened
You don’t speak for all of us
@@joeybradbury7684 They speak for everyone who’s correct
Same here
Great video. And congratulations on the demonetisation - a badge of honour on this platform.
But I have to say that the opening fooled me with the tolerated friend with skeletons in the cupboard. I was all ready for a video on Saudi Arabia. Ironic really, given where we are now.
"I don't care how you arrive at the right answer, just that you arrive at the right answer"
*school teachers want to know your location*
Thanks a lot for shedding light on this matter. Our Armenian brothers went through a lot. They deserve their history to be remembered. From a Kurd.
Bijî Kurdistan!
@@amirsur1596 Biji Shtr Bremin ❤️
The long and sordid history of the treatment of the Kurds also badly needs to be addressed. Maybe on this channel. Many Americans, for instance, have only recently learned about what happened under Saddam and Daesh.
Biji Kurdistan.
Love from Texas.
@@OlOleander Yes, agreed a hundred percent. The bad treatment is from all sides. Thank you for addressing it.
i hope that your people won’t need to suffer what we did
Fine, then don't call it 'genocide'. Call it, maybe, 'happy happy kill-kill time'. It still happened.
That makes it sound like it was perpetrated by Chinese laundromat owners rather than Turkey.
Could you imagine?
Some people did something.
15:08 Seeing my country as a full denier of this genocide is just horrible
Survivor of lifelong sexual abuse here.
Rape is an inherently violent act. You wouldn't do that to someone you respect, someone whose autonomy and boundaries you respect. It's dehumanizing and humiliating, and more often than not in those contexts, they use it as that. As a weapon.
It is why it tends to be more commonly used against marginalized people. (people of color, women, trans people) They see us as subhuman.
(maybe not all cases, I know one of my abusers' mentality is much more complex. maybe he genuinely believed he cares and tried to rationalize his abuse or buried it. it is different when it is someone within your circle of trust, I suppose, but he is.. sexist. so I don't doubt that played into it.
Turkey: "It wasn't technically a genocide!"
The word genocide was literally coined in order to describe what you did. All other genocides are measured in terms of what you did.
I would argue that all genocides are probably compared to the holocaust
Seth Tucker so you can’t think that this event happened in imperialism era and england, france easily blame us
Murat Emre Taş you’re doing what every Turk does when this is mentioned. Just say the same thing has happened before, so it’s fine.
@@rosspatterson1233 it's cockroach logic, ignore him
@@oklitus_1049 UK and France don't deny the atrocities they did in the past unlike Turkey, so what's your point?
There were, like, 12 russo-turkish wars. Only several of them are remembered, but all are named the same.
Except for Crimean War. :P
@@martinmortyry7444 Yeah, you're totally right. That very war in which Leo Tolstoy famously took part when he was a young guy.
@qwertyuıopğüasdfghjklşizxcvbnmöç Yeah, wild times, multiple wars at any given moment in time... Oh, except nothing has changed since. Wars still lead to a whole lot of awful deaths, no matter on which side, and too bad we as people don't even get to choose if we actually want to fight. And when we do, it's always a civil war, which is even worse. Russians call a civil war (and THE civil war, the only one we had, which lead to the creation of the Soviet union) "the brother-killing war". But isn't any war like that?
There's 30 treaties of Paris. History is just like that sometimes.
Damn history does repeat itself
My friend, I can confidently say that school curriculums have seriously changed since you been in school. I recall spending an entire class period in history with my teacher explaining nationalism. And I remember struggling on a test of which the trail of tears was a huge part of.
I really like your interpretation of the difference between nationalism and patriotism.
You do? It's the international socialist interpretation of Nationalism. Nationalism is bad if you want to conquer the world.
I'd just reverse the definitions.
If you’re doing another video about ethnic cleansing, you should do it about Communist China’s cleansing of Uighurs and Tibetans, which is still happening today. Like Turkey, western governments only ignore it so they can continue trade.
I think they are about to slaughter or starve a lot of Uighurs ...theyve imported 10s of thousands of Han Chinese to take the place of the locals when it occurs...and block outsiders from filming almost anything at all there
They try to assimilate them by making their tradition illigal and importing foreigners(han chinese)
+Louis 494 We all accept he 'played it safe' - he'll never do any explaination nor acknowledgement about north and south american ethnic cleansings & genocidal massacres/butcherings against native americans; but he has his own agenda; unsuprisingly
@@thedoruk6324 He talks about American crimes against Native Americans in multiple videos.
@@maxhydekyle2425 Only mildly - inconclusively. 'Tad bit is the right word. He never made a whole video about this; or any similiar ethnic cleansings.