What big game studios fail to realize if they created a game like skyrim or gta five. Games that can be played for years. People. When it needs to buy the games, they would just buy ad.D ons because They like the story so much.They don't want it to ever end
@kevinvu5432 Nobody else can really say what are their games they make without looking it up though. So on. The level of everybody , knowing who you are based off of one game that's all they had
I grew up playing the Fable games starting with the very first one, Fable: The Lost Chapters is my favorite game of all time and I've watched all interviews/behind the scenes videos about the Fable series. You did a fantastic job with this video, man.
Honestly for me its biggest flaw was the fact that all of the enemies took forever to die because every attack was incredibly weak except for high level magic Which just led to me spamming the same high level spell over and over and over again which led to combat being incredibly boring either I would use the boring to cast magic or the much finer sword and gun but those takes so long to kill an opponent that it then became also boring doesn't help that There was no consequence really for dying and it was hard to die anyways I ended up beating the game without dying once on my first attempt
For all his talents, PM had a tendency to take the wrong lessons from feedback. The emote system, to me, felt shallow and pointless. So if people weren’t using it, the right move wasn’t necessarily to make things even more shallow.
Yeah, It was like he just felt the need to keep, i dunno if dumbing down would be the right words, but that's what it felt like. He just kept moving so far from their original Fable audience that eventually, it wasn't even for them anymore.
I thought that was kind of dumb, but so was kicking chickens. It felt like a familiar mechanic because I had been playing the Sims for years. I took it in stride because it was already well understood.
Talents?! Get out. He was a con man who made promises he knew perfectly well that his team could not deliver on. He’s a bad guy. I’d love to meet him and tell him what it was like to try to be a fan of his games. B&W and its sequels were awful… Fable was garbage.
@@gatorhoy0420Wow what a first world problem angry about a video game not living up to its promises and angry about so much that you would go out of your way too personally inform the maker of that product you didn't like it Not going to lie he probably wouldn't care in the slightest He made his money off of you As for Being a bad guy again you have a pretty First World View of what makes a bad guy ooh he made a video game that didn't live up to its promises big deal Honestly it's kind of a catch 22 we always want video games to be bigger And better And want game creators to be ambitious But also then we demonize them for being too ambitious And them being unable to make the product they Envisioned for whatever reason such as money or time Or the technology of the day
I was one of those people. I was part of the beta from the start. I wasn’t online when the news broke, I was at work. We were in the middle of shuttering our company and all facing redundancy too. I locked myself in the toilet and cried, ngl. It felt too close. :(
It has been well over a decade since I played "Fable 3" but my memory of it is that I preferred "Fable 2" but I did think "Fable 3" had a lot of fantastic ideas, but just often not coming close to reaching their potential.
The big offender was the awful UI and how there wasn't just a simple menu, but instead a series of slow clunky character animations you had to deal with. I feel like it is something they wanted to try out, and if they had the time to try different systems, it would have been changed. But Microsofts deadlines meant they had to make choices that were sometimes bad, and run with it.
Whats that? A beloved franchise bricked due to irresponsible, unrealistic direction and Microsoft's love of unreasonable timelines and corporate nonsense? Never heard that one before. "There's no future in single player RPGs." and "You've had three shots and you've only tripled the money. It's not good enough." This. This is the reason that corporate culture is going to be the death of humanity. The first statement is braindead, in the era of Skyrim. And the second is simply unhinged. How are these people trusted with this level of power?
Didn't seem very beloved if they were so finacially unstable from the first 2 they needed the help of microsoft just to stay open in the first place. But don't want to mention that part right? Even now people are mocking Fable 3 like people mocked the first 2 when some they didn't like them even if you liked them. Now everyone is wondering why they don't make more games....
the morphing was always such a cool idea in general. I wish more games had things like that. Whether it was pulled off successfully is another story lol but its still dope
Good idea with a bad execution as was most of Fable 3. With the weapon morphing in mind alone there are some issues. 1) The conditions are too easy to reach and is subject to RNG. Namely to reach the point that handles evolve you are forced to murder countless Hollow men in the main story ending with a massive chance to get the ugly bone handle with no controll or avoiding it short of save scumming. 2) they removed unique weapons to make all legendaries you get be some variation of morphs you can get for your hero weapon meaning nothing is unique. In fable 2 you could fight with a Lute, giant purple hammer and more. This unique aspect was removed so every single weapon is just a different combo of basic morphable parts. 3) weapon morphs does nothing for performance meaning your hero weapon is always the weakest. They could make it so the bone handle makes it do more damage vs Hollow men etc so you can personalize your weapon to be good if niche.
Every time i open the Fable legends art book, i have a mix of sadness and frustration. I hope the new Fable game will capture the same magic of the first game, or at least the second
That snide comment towards Oblivion, only for Skyrim to come put a year later and basically take over the world. Must have felt like a big gut punch to that guy when Skyrim actually released and they got to see what an actual open world is like 😂
It is pretty crazy when you think about it. The scope of Skyrim compared to any of the fable games is insane. Hell, the scope of even Morrowind is insane compared to any fable game.
Microsoft "Hey add this, hey add this too, oh don't forget this and make sure you put these in" also Microsoft "Why are you adding so much stuff and taking so long? You're wasting time i'm just going to shut you down"
See, I don't think you need 100% of the people to understand 100% of the game. I think you can aim for 100% of people to be able to complete the main plot of the game, throwing them some simplicity where they need it, but giving everyone the same experience so that the lowest common denominator is just unfair to those who can and want to do more. A simple example is that Mario Kart 8 offers a steering assist that keeps your kart from flying off the course at the cost of not being able to do level 3 mini-turbos. Beginners aren't going to be able to do those anyway, and the steering assist goes a long way to make the game accessible while not ruining anything for experts. Accessibility does not mean everyone gets the same experience, just that everyone gets a fair and enjoyable experience that caters to their needs.
Honestly I have always found game makers take the wrong path for Accessibility and simply make the product as dumbed down as physically possible and it rarely works as at the end of the day it doesn't matter how accessible they make fable 3 casual people who need games dumped down that much We're never going to purchase a game called Fable three to begin with
Man fable 2 was special place in my heart I played first one so many times as little kiddo and watched development for what felt like years it’s legit the reason I first got on RUclips loved that game
Going on from here, we have a Fable 4 announced from Microsoft. Peter moved on to create 22Cans, and produced The Cube and Godus. Godus is abandoned incomplete.
Im really interested to see how Fable 4 comes along, if they can somehow recreate the atmosphere of Fable1 in an open world setting, it would be a great start for them bringing the series back
I do hope when playground games and Microsoft complete and release Fable 4 it's what made Fable 1 and 2 great mixed into it, with some custom weapon elements from 3, and I do hope that they make it co-op both couch and online
I HOPE TO GOD THAT IT HAS COUCH CO-OP. And proper couch co-op. Not the "Co-Op" of Fable 2, where they give you 5 preset characters that cannuse the stats of another player character.
@@raspiankiado i would like that Fable 3 co-op where you could bring in your custom character from your actual save and run for miles ahead of your friend in another region entirely the length of fairfax castle all the way to driftwood and then meet eachother in sliverpine
I subbed the shit out of this channel thanks to your three fable retrospective documentaries I built a bed and to the first two then cooked dinner to the third Incredible work man
@@leatherhidegamingsee I got it bc it came with my Xbox 360 and we were poor. I had this, Forza(which I hate lol) and the first ultimate alliance. I played this game after ultimate and it was my first taste of rpg so for that I’m grateful
I have played fable 3 the most, the coop was really good and the story was good, sure the magic system wasnt as fun and you couldnt min max as much but I found it a solid experience and still want to play it today. I think the clubkiest and hardest to play and finish is the first game since some bits feel like a absolute slog.
There was a lot about Fable 3 that I really liked. The start of the story was strong, the combat was ok, and the evolving weapons were amazing. Sadly, the story's charm faded halfway through, the combat was too easy, there were too few side quests, and the ending felt forced and hollow.
It was a hard lesson to learn and it's definitely one of the things where I mean that's how it worked with movies bigger actor names did make movies make more money So it was natural for them to assume the same would apply to video games
I wish Fable 2 would get an FPS Boost or something. I tried playing it recently and something about it hurt my eyes. Which is weird because I played it so many years earlier without issues.
Hey, but, I thought we were getting Fable 4? Might not be from those guys, but it’s coming, right? Anyway. Say what you like about Legends, it still remains the most unique and entertaining multiplayer games that I have ever played. There’s never been anything else that has come close. Being the god-like villain was tough, the odds were stacked against you, but I got a real kick out of designing those maps, placing enemies and traps and then watching four poor hapless individuals run straight into it. My favourite tactic was to let half the team past a hidden trap fine, then spring it and split the team up. At one point I had some poor guy trapped in a room with a tree monster. He was running around doing circles around this well feature in the middle of the room, with this huge, hulking tree-beast chasing him like some kind of benny hill sketch, until his companions could somehow get back to help him. Fun times ^^ As a hero, I adored most of the characters. They were classic Lionhead takes on subverting tropes and were very satisfying. The only thing that was looking off for me was the random loot-box element that was obviously going to make the game pay-to-win and turn it into a nasty money generating beast the minute it went live. As a beta player who had been there from the start and literally experienced them building this game up around us from wire-mesh models to a fully rendered environments and voiced characters- I’m still genuinely shocked that it was cancelled. They were weeks from release and it was practically finished. You’d think M$ would have wanted to get it out there and at least claw back some of the money they put into it, even if it failed. It may not have failed if M$ had marketed the game properly, and Fable fans clearly understood what they were getting. No, it wasn’t Fable 4 BUT it was a Fable game that was freakishly good fun to play. That studio and those people did not deserve what happened to them. We lost an important part of the UK games development scene that sad day. RIP Lionhead 😢 Damn you, Microsoft
Unrelated, but I specifically remember when in Fable 2, finishing the child intro and being set free, starting in the caravan camp. The first thing I tried to do was smack a child, and was incredibly disappointed to find that it was no longer possible. I knew then i was in for much more disappointment.
Monoluex was wrong, people want more of the same stuff they love from the same franchises, to do new stuff u need to create another game but new stuff is what makes games original and amazing iften, we rarely get that these days but its not a good idea to do it with the sequels otherwise people lose interest and trust as soon as they realise they arnt really playing a sequel but a different game just with similar basic appearance.
I do think game sequels need to grow and incorporate new ideas, but it is a fine balance of keeping what made the original so good and creating a new experience.
All I remember from fable 3 was I realized my xbox360's clock setting was wrong mid way between the game so I changed it to the correct time resulting in earning a shit ton in rent money and interest in game. I accidently cheated in a fortune, so the ending of "would you like a lot of gold?" was completely pointless to me.
One of the craziest things about these games to me was the decision to pull them off PC. I completely stopped following the games when I couldn't buy Fable 2 on PC. Surely the money made from a PC audience would have helped.
this was a dope idea, and somethig I hope gets looked at by Playground games for the new one, but I doubt theywill try and be too crazy for the first attempt
I only played Fable III and I didn't really like it. I found the gameplay shallow I also found the point it was making about the burden of leadership to be shallow as well because it completely undermines its own point by making it very easy to circumvent the problem by just having a lot of money.
bro I just discovered your channel from the algorithm randomly, but it seems really obvious to me that you put a ridiculous amount of effort into your videos. This deserves so much more views and attention, and I wish you all the best. Amateur tip, I'd advise maybe focusing on more modern/recent games since the algorithm usually recommends those over older boomer games like this.
I always hoped that the Fable franchise would make a comeback. I know Lions head studios is defunct, but that doesn't mean that it's IP can't be purchased and reinvigorated. I mean, so long as it stays true to the original title...and not "made for modern audiences."
Oh the irony of making a game about meeting a deadline to fulfill the treasury, while you yourself are trying to meet a deadline to fulfill the treasury.
I have literally only read the video title but I really enjoyed enjoyed Fable 3. I still dig up the old 360 to play it every few years and I'm a devout Sony Man. I'm definitely interested in what the video has to say though! It is a far from perfect game and I've no illusions about its quality. Ok, going to go watch the video now! 😊
I mean if a man's worse sin is What Molineux did that's far from a villain in the world he didn't live up to all his promises on a video game hardly a demon hell I would hardly say that someone who's even going to go to hell and I'm going to be honest with you viewing someone like that as that villainous is pretty immature and shows a real lack of real world experience and social interaction
@@yami122 You have to be joking, please tell me you are joking? This is clearly a reference to the game, how the main character sprouts horns and gains buzzing flies, and his pushing his team to do ridiculous things, making them change directions mid project repeatedly, he is "their villain" Did you even watch the video? Have you even played the game?? If you are serious, I feel very bad for you. Despite all this my comment was CLEARLY satirical. I think you may be projecting here as your tonedeaf response is pretty immature and shows a real lack of real world experience and social interaction.
As usual, too much executive interference caused terrible games which caused the downfall. Like 90% of stories are this. When will executives finally learn to just let creatives do their thing?
Nah, PM was just as much a part of the problem, if not more. Dude had no idea what gamers wanted, and couldn't make his damn mind up. Holding hands to lead characters, removing traditional game menus, dumbing the game down more and more, isn't "being a creative".
The removal of the action system from Fable 2, and making us level up via the road to rule; were just bad ideas. Fable 2 was introduced me to the series so I realize I'm a bit biased; however I also really loved Fable 1 as well once I got the chance to play it when it was remastered.
Lionhead should have told them “we aren’t releasing it until it’s ready” then take to social media to show the players would rather wait… Public pressure would have allowed them to take longer.. All it would have taken was a head to have some balls and stand up to the overlords.
I played Fable 1, 2 & 3. I got Fable when it first dropped and it was a lot of fun to play, I enjoyed the combat, environments, most of the Demon Doors, collecting books & Silver Keys but sadly once the story was over with everything done there was nothing else left to do. I was sad I couldn't return to the Arena to put my most powerful equipment to the test, couldn't refight Jack of Blades' Dragon form again or refight the bosses for the fun of it. Fable 2 was great, the emotes were more fun to use, the inclusion of the dog was great, the story progression was well paced, the angel / demon forms were better than Fable 1, the larger variations of weapons were a welcome inclusion as was the inclusion of clothing and clothing customisation. I really liked testing my mettle at the Colosseum whenever I felt like it, I had fun robbing Reaver's place hundreds of times so I could buy his mansion and the Castle, the capability to purchase and upgrade houses to rent them out was nice. The Demon Doors were fun, the combat system was better and more fun than the original as was the Enchantments system. Fable 3 sucked ass! The emoting was incredibly lazy and rather difficult, the characters were bland and boring, got sick of NPC's getting in my face, the ranged & magic was op as hell while the melee combat sucked major ass, money was extremely easy to get (was able to get $6,000,000 in 3 days of play), the road to rule was boring and uninspiring. The angel / demon forms were crap, the costumes were very limited and ass, the tattoos, hairstyles and facial hair options were shit, the variation between dyes were pathetically limited, the dog was brainless, the Demon Doors were boring to interact with, the enemies were either braindead run headfirst into you types or the types that'd strafe, attack you and laugh at you. It was too easy to end the game with all the kept promises, get enough money in the vault to get the special chest, sacrifice all the money and remake the exact same amount in 3 hours. The relationship quests for every character was too easy to do and was too boring because it was the same quests over and over and over again. I ended the game by owning every single property in the game and with max level furniture, I put the rent on the lowest cost but still got millions in hours and with nothing to spend the cash on.
i think this nicely sums up everything really. Instead of building on what worked, it was decided to go in a different direction and completely change it. All while running out of time >
If I just quit my job, there is no way in hell I would go back to that place for a meeting with the boss. The second I walked out that door I no longer work for you
Wow. We got 1/3 of the intended game. Sounds like the full game wouldve been incredible. The creator got greedy and stupid. We need a remake of fable 3 with all the ideas implemented and it being more of an rpg than an adventure game
Weird I'm pretty sure there was an announcement for a new fable entry. Ofc not from lion head studios. Your video give the vibe that the franchise is dead, but in reality Microsoft gave it another shot and didn't buried it. Edit: I love your video. Nice voice. And you are calm and collected. Now I will binge watch some of your content :D
Fable III took me Four or so hours to beat on the day I purchased it and I was so shocked I finished it that fast then was disappointed that it had no depths when I thought I was getting to the point of depth in the story
The cast list is legendary. I seem to hear more and more famous people each play through like mark heap who plays Brian, the owner of all the gnomes. You probably know him from Friday night dinner Shalom jackie
Peter Molyneaux was a huge part of the problem. The guy just couldn’t rein himself in. Always shoving in costly and completely unnecessary features like the pause menu in Fable 3. The new fable that’s coming out looks terrible.
1 piece of gold for 1 person. Our brother did it the evil way and struggled so much. I said, bro hold my Jameson. Did it the good way. Too bad that meant not building the brothel. If you want to play a game, that's very interesting and made by the creators of Fable. Play Kynseed.
To this day i am still angry about what happened to fable. One of my most favorite videogames of all time and the game just died and disappeared. I loved all of them, fable 1, 2, and 3.
What's also crazy is Lying Peter original said in an interview that the original king/queen in Fable 3 was going to be your hero in Fable 2 ported over. Then you'd over throw your father or mother in a epic fight... we all saw how that turned out.
I still think fable 1 the lost chapters was the best. If it was remastered for the recent console and update SOME of the mechanics id still happily buy it again.
It actually was my favorite version. Fable 1 was too clunky and unresponive. Fable 2 was alright but too many ways to exploit the game. Gable 3 plot was fantastic. You might have no idea how difficult it is to manage every property in Abion, keep everyone happy and still save everyone possible. Daunting task but doable with enough diligence. Plus spell weaving was amazing like seriously who wouldnt want to cadt flaming tornadoes?
The issue with fable is depth. No amount of emoji wil replace real life interactions .oblivion made u want to keep playing while fable 2 which was the compatitor was like a small trip with no depth. Fable 2 had some great ideas like jobs wives. But it overall had zero depth.and man microsoft are the worst. Lionhead made games that made profit 3 to 4 times yet for microsoft they wanted more so they shove this team to do a multiplayer only game service game an impossible task to finish. What an awful company. Now they bough bethesda. But at this point everhthing is for a live service app anyway
So basically PM was just too old by this point and was way out of touch with what gamers of that time actually wanted. I'm sorry but every quote from him in this video just makes me scream "WTF???" Hand holding makes you feel more powerful???? Are you kidding me? Removing health and experience? No traditional menus? Dumbing down everything so that a toddler can play? What on earth was this guy smoking? It's no wonder I hated Fable 3 so much. It honestly sounds like the guy just wanted to make a boring interactive story/sim game, devoid of any actual rpg elements or gameplay. Like go ahead and do that...with a new game, not your existing franchise and destroying it.
After every fable entry he went further and further down the "casual" route. I really think his end goal was to just sell to a large amount of people and to him, specifically targeting people who weren't gamers and getting them into games was the answer.
I can’t believe they made one sequel let alone two. I was excited for the first game, but it was over just when it started getting good. I think I did everything and the game was less then 20 hours(so long ago) may have been 12 hours. I wanted a refund.
It’s just sad because all anyone wanted was more fable 2. If another fable 2 dlc was released today it would probably make more money than fable 3 made.
I love Fable as separate games, but as a franchise I just wish they kept it going along the same lines as Fable 1… as in keep the fantasy, heroes story. Instead of completely wiping out heroes, vilifying the Heroes Guild & turning it Victorian/modern and adding in guns etc. I just wish they kept and expanded on the original lore instead of time jumping so drastically. It made me so mad they turned ‘natural’ magic into gloves🙄 if the protagonist was really a hero and descended from heroes they shouldn’t need some freaking gloves to use magic. While I did like the spell weaving… the lore just did a 180
Tbh if you want to make the player feel powerful, you've got to do it through game mechanics. Games are an interactive medium, so I don't think that narrative is the way to go here, for example I think having the combat system be more complex and function like a sandbox could definitely make a player feel very powerful. The dumbed down combat in Fable 3 really just isn't it, I also really disliked the road to rule as the way it's designed made me feel like I had a lot less control over my build.
I always thought this game got way more hate than it deserved, I could restart this game rn...actually may do it this weekend. The only thing I really hated that reeked of "corporation" were the paywalls. No game should make it impossible to collect all weapons/armors or skins or whatever without paying for them. Also I really hated how some items could only be able attained if you traded with an online player, so you invite a rando in your world and then they immediately start GTAing your world and killing everyone
Rng ruined this game for me. Everything is RNG like some MMO instead of the single player game its supossed to be. Counter kills? Nah removed for random finishers that can or cant happen. Sub targeting? Nah chance of random finishers you can't controll. Set chests and loot? Nah rng items show up in the chests. Customizing your weapons? Nah RNG upgrade when you upgrade. Weapons in shops? Nah rng. Dialogue wheel? Nah 3 choices thats purely RNG so have fun slow dancing as 2 straight dudes trying to become friends for a discount. Set unique children like Lady grey giving zombie kids in Fable 2? Nah your white hero with white wife/husband has a kid from Aurora or black because RNG is fun! Kids dressed as their parents and enviroment? Nah your kids with a noble wife living in the caste dresses like Bowersome poverty. They literally went out of their way to replace every system they made for Fable 2 with RNG for no reason that I can see beyond being too lazy to properly code
microsoft gonna miccrosoft. Sad that they just do this to studios instead of letting em make games. Like amazon they basically have unlimited money and if they put even a fraction of that to their side projects they'd make lots more
Check out How Fable 1 was made here. ruclips.net/video/5IzamQvbYhY/видео.htmlsi=SZ1l5HzguM3F9eLU
What big game studios fail to realize if they created a game like skyrim or gta five. Games that can be played for years. People.
When it needs to buy the games, they would just buy ad.D ons because They like the story so much.They don't want it to ever end
Manu Biggest vice was that he wanted everybody to play a role playing game
Fable 2 as far as i am aware sold 5 million copies world wide
Fable 3 wasnt the death of lionhead.
@kevinvu5432 Nobody else can really say what are their games they make without looking it up though. So on.
The level of everybody , knowing who you are based off of one game that's all they had
"Microsoft bought all these studios up, their games are gonna be soo good now" flashbacks to this and rare games
>< Rare man.. Feel like ive been waiting for Everwild for like 10 years
@GameStudioLore well it's been 5 years so nearly there
I grew up playing the Fable games starting with the very first one, Fable: The Lost Chapters is my favorite game of all time and I've watched all interviews/behind the scenes videos about the Fable series. You did a fantastic job with this video, man.
Thank you! I appreciate it. Im glad you enjoyed it!
Tried so hard to figure out why this game is so different from I remember... the one I played was the second one. It all makes sense now.
lolol thats funny. Glad you got clarity
Fable 3’s biggest flaw was the outrageous amount of bloom that makes it practically unplayable in the best of circumstances.
just hit me with flashbacks of having to turn the contrast down every time
It was so slow and clunky too
Honestly for me its biggest flaw was the fact that all of the enemies took forever to die because every attack was incredibly weak except for high level magic Which just led to me spamming the same high level spell over and over and over again
which led to combat being incredibly boring either I would use the boring to cast magic or the much finer sword and gun but those takes so long to kill an opponent that it then became also boring
doesn't help that There was no consequence really for dying and it was hard to die anyways I ended up beating the game without dying once on my first attempt
That brightness thing happened to me constantly but with fable 2. it became unbearable
For all his talents, PM had a tendency to take the wrong lessons from feedback. The emote system, to me, felt shallow and pointless. So if people weren’t using it, the right move wasn’t necessarily to make things even more shallow.
Yeah, It was like he just felt the need to keep, i dunno if dumbing down would be the right words, but that's what it felt like. He just kept moving so far from their original Fable audience that eventually, it wasn't even for them anymore.
I thought that was kind of dumb, but so was kicking chickens. It felt like a familiar mechanic because I had been playing the Sims for years. I took it in stride because it was already well understood.
Talents?! Get out. He was a con man who made promises he knew perfectly well that his team could not deliver on.
He’s a bad guy. I’d love to meet him and tell him what it was like to try to be a fan of his games. B&W and its sequels were awful… Fable was garbage.
@@gatorhoy0420Wow what a first world problem angry about a video game not living up to its promises and angry about so much that you would go out of your way too personally inform the maker of that product you didn't like it
Not going to lie he probably wouldn't care in the slightest He made his money off of you
As for Being a bad guy again you have a pretty First World View of what makes a bad guy ooh he made a video game that didn't live up to its promises big deal Honestly it's kind of a catch 22 we always want video games to be bigger And better And want game creators to be ambitious But also then we demonize them for being too ambitious And them being unable to make the product they Envisioned for whatever reason such as money or time Or the technology of the day
@ or he lies to children because he’s greedy.
Good thing he’s got people like you to keep his boots licked, right?
So sad to hear about the person crying while Fable Legends went offline
Yeah that hurt me too learning that. They put so much time into it =(
I was one of those people. I was part of the beta from the start. I wasn’t online when the news broke, I was at work. We were in the middle of shuttering our company and all facing redundancy too. I locked myself in the toilet and cried, ngl. It felt too close. :(
Thank you for sharing, I'm sorry that happened to you guys =(
@@TheKillaBunny77that must be hard. My cousin in Ukraine is also going through hard times. You guys are so tough.
@@kyledodson2992Go cry about it somewhere else. No reason to be a dick online.
It has been well over a decade since I played "Fable 3" but my memory of it is that I preferred "Fable 2" but I did think "Fable 3" had a lot of fantastic ideas, but just often not coming close to reaching their potential.
The big offender was the awful UI and how there wasn't just a simple menu, but instead a series of slow clunky character animations you had to deal with. I feel like it is something they wanted to try out, and if they had the time to try different systems, it would have been changed. But Microsofts deadlines meant they had to make choices that were sometimes bad, and run with it.
Fable 1 and 2 were the best, but I did like the housing and romancing in the 3rd. And had great voice actors.
Fable 3 was alright but when the competition is skyrim....yeah
Not having a health bar made the game wayyyy to easy... I didn't get knocked out once and got the achievement my first playthrough.
The "industrialized fantasy" setting with some steampunk elements was a fresh take on the genre. It had a lot of potential indeed.
Whats that? A beloved franchise bricked due to irresponsible, unrealistic direction and Microsoft's love of unreasonable timelines and corporate nonsense? Never heard that one before.
"There's no future in single player RPGs." and "You've had three shots and you've only tripled the money. It's not good enough." This. This is the reason that corporate culture is going to be the death of humanity. The first statement is braindead, in the era of Skyrim. And the second is simply unhinged. How are these people trusted with this level of power?
Didn't seem very beloved if they were so finacially unstable from the first 2 they needed the help of microsoft just to stay open in the first place.
But don't want to mention that part right?
Even now people are mocking Fable 3 like people mocked the first 2 when some they didn't like them even if you liked them. Now everyone is wondering why they don't make more games....
Moral of the story is, don't sell your golden goose to the rich bridge troll. Who will eat everything in the end.
It happens all the time, money grabs
There's still some great stuff in Fable 3. How the weapons morph is one of my favourite things in the series
Drops in an ocean of bad ideas
the morphing was always such a cool idea in general. I wish more games had things like that. Whether it was pulled off successfully is another story lol but its still dope
@@GameStudioLore I always wound up with the same sick looking katana. Creature of habit
Good idea with a bad execution as was most of Fable 3.
With the weapon morphing in mind alone there are some issues.
1) The conditions are too easy to reach and is subject to RNG.
Namely to reach the point that handles evolve you are forced to murder countless Hollow men in the main story ending with a massive chance to get the ugly bone handle with no controll or avoiding it short of save scumming.
2) they removed unique weapons to make all legendaries you get be some variation of morphs you can get for your hero weapon meaning nothing is unique.
In fable 2 you could fight with a Lute, giant purple hammer and more.
This unique aspect was removed so every single weapon is just a different combo of basic morphable parts.
3) weapon morphs does nothing for performance meaning your hero weapon is always the weakest.
They could make it so the bone handle makes it do more damage vs Hollow men etc so you can personalize your weapon to be good if niche.
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn valid critiques
You've kind of killed it for me lol
Every time i open the Fable legends art book, i have a mix of sadness and frustration. I hope the new Fable game will capture the same magic of the first game, or at least the second
That snide comment towards Oblivion, only for Skyrim to come put a year later and basically take over the world. Must have felt like a big gut punch to that guy when Skyrim actually released and they got to see what an actual open world is like 😂
It is pretty crazy when you think about it. The scope of Skyrim compared to any of the fable games is insane. Hell, the scope of even Morrowind is insane compared to any fable game.
LETS GOOO SHITTING ON FABLE 3 IN 2024
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Fuck off, 3 was a blast.
Microsoft "Hey add this, hey add this too, oh don't forget this and make sure you put these in"
also Microsoft "Why are you adding so much stuff and taking so long? You're wasting time i'm just going to shut you down"
Fable 1 was one of the best games of the early 2000s
See, I don't think you need 100% of the people to understand 100% of the game. I think you can aim for 100% of people to be able to complete the main plot of the game, throwing them some simplicity where they need it, but giving everyone the same experience so that the lowest common denominator is just unfair to those who can and want to do more. A simple example is that Mario Kart 8 offers a steering assist that keeps your kart from flying off the course at the cost of not being able to do level 3 mini-turbos. Beginners aren't going to be able to do those anyway, and the steering assist goes a long way to make the game accessible while not ruining anything for experts. Accessibility does not mean everyone gets the same experience, just that everyone gets a fair and enjoyable experience that caters to their needs.
Honestly I have always found game makers take the wrong path for Accessibility and simply make the product as dumbed down as physically possible and it rarely works as at the end of the day it doesn't matter how accessible they make fable 3 casual people who need games dumped down that much We're never going to purchase a game called Fable three to begin with
Man fable 2 was special place in my heart I played first one so many times as little kiddo and watched development for what felt like years it’s legit the reason I first got on RUclips loved that game
Man I loved playing Fable 3. I wished they had expanded it with a few DLC expansions
Bower lake music, pre-tower, still gives me chills to this day. So good.
Going on from here, we have a Fable 4 announced from Microsoft. Peter moved on to create 22Cans, and produced The Cube and Godus. Godus is abandoned incomplete.
Im really interested to see how Fable 4 comes along, if they can somehow recreate the atmosphere of Fable1 in an open world setting, it would be a great start for them bringing the series back
I do hope when playground games and Microsoft complete and release Fable 4 it's what made Fable 1 and 2 great mixed into it, with some custom weapon elements from 3, and I do hope that they make it co-op both couch and online
I HOPE TO GOD THAT IT HAS COUCH CO-OP. And proper couch co-op. Not the "Co-Op" of Fable 2, where they give you 5 preset characters that cannuse the stats of another player character.
@@raspiankiado i would like that Fable 3 co-op where you could bring in your custom character from your actual save and run for miles ahead of your friend in another region entirely the length of fairfax castle all the way to driftwood and then meet eachother in sliverpine
I was in 10th grade when I first played this game and was ADDICTED. End game as leader was peak for me.
DUDE FINALLY !!! Been a second love it ! Don’t stop ❤🙏💪🏻💪🏻
haha i know right? Been busy with new baby whos 4 months now! I appreciate the support! Thanks for watching!
@@GameStudioLore thank you sir !
I subbed the shit out of this channel thanks to your three fable retrospective documentaries
I built a bed and to the first two then cooked dinner to the third
Incredible work man
I've got a huge nostalgic soft spot for Fable 3 actually LOL
I never played it >< Was Busy with college around this time. i hope the video was decent for ya tho lol
@@GameStudioLore You bet! Loved the video! Nicely done.
I played it after the other two and found it to be mostly disappointing compared to its prequels. It was barely fun enough to finish for me.
@@leatherhidegamingsee I got it bc it came with my Xbox 360 and we were poor. I had this, Forza(which I hate lol) and the first ultimate alliance. I played this game after ultimate and it was my first taste of rpg so for that I’m grateful
I have played fable 3 the most, the coop was really good and the story was good, sure the magic system wasnt as fun and you couldnt min max as much but I found it a solid experience and still want to play it today. I think the clubkiest and hardest to play and finish is the first game since some bits feel like a absolute slog.
There was a lot about Fable 3 that I really liked. The start of the story was strong, the combat was ok, and the evolving weapons were amazing. Sadly, the story's charm faded halfway through, the combat was too easy, there were too few side quests, and the ending felt forced and hollow.
sums upfable 3 perfectly lol
My main character got stuck in a bugged instance of that wheel of misfortune mini game and I never touched it again... It was so heartbreaking.
Honestly, Id prolly do the same>
Bigger budget and bigger voice acting names don't make a game better. Studios and publishers would learn that eventually.
It was a hard lesson to learn and it's definitely one of the things where I mean that's how it worked with movies bigger actor names did make movies make more money So it was natural for them to assume the same would apply to video games
I still love fable 3 but it's not very good, one thing I can say is it has the best multiplayer out of the 3.
I just hate the menu because it lagged a lot. If the load time for the menu hub was fast then I would’ve less issues with the game.
@@JosephConrad-z9j Yeah I agree
Fable 3 pissed me off to no end. Peter is/was such a liar.
Fable is the reason I originally got an xbox. Played it at a friends and it absolutely blew my mind
I wish Fable 2 would get an FPS Boost or something. I tried playing it recently and something about it hurt my eyes. Which is weird because I played it so many years earlier without issues.
Probably your TV.
Did you get a new one since the last time u played it?
And true coop like the 3rd game
Hey, but, I thought we were getting Fable 4? Might not be from those guys, but it’s coming, right?
Anyway. Say what you like about Legends, it still remains the most unique and entertaining multiplayer games that I have ever played. There’s never been anything else that has come close. Being the god-like villain was tough, the odds were stacked against you, but I got a real kick out of designing those maps, placing enemies and traps and then watching four poor hapless individuals run straight into it. My favourite tactic was to let half the team past a hidden trap fine, then spring it and split the team up. At one point I had some poor guy trapped in a room with a tree monster. He was running around doing circles around this well feature in the middle of the room, with this huge, hulking tree-beast chasing him like some kind of benny hill sketch, until his companions could somehow get back to help him. Fun times ^^
As a hero, I adored most of the characters. They were classic Lionhead takes on subverting tropes and were very satisfying. The only thing that was looking off for me was the random loot-box element that was obviously going to make the game pay-to-win and turn it into a nasty money generating beast the minute it went live.
As a beta player who had been there from the start and literally experienced them building this game up around us from wire-mesh models to a fully rendered environments and voiced characters- I’m still genuinely shocked that it was cancelled. They were weeks from release and it was practically finished. You’d think M$ would have wanted to get it out there and at least claw back some of the money they put into it, even if it failed.
It may not have failed if M$ had marketed the game properly, and Fable fans clearly understood what they were getting. No, it wasn’t Fable 4 BUT it was a Fable game that was freakishly good fun to play.
That studio and those people did not deserve what happened to them. We lost an important part of the UK games development scene that sad day.
RIP Lionhead 😢
Damn you, Microsoft
Unrelated, but I specifically remember when in Fable 2, finishing the child intro and being set free, starting in the caravan camp. The first thing I tried to do was smack a child, and was incredibly disappointed to find that it was no longer possible. I knew then i was in for much more disappointment.
lol thats a funny example to be disappointed with right off the bat
Monoluex was wrong, people want more of the same stuff they love from the same franchises, to do new stuff u need to create another game but new stuff is what makes games original and amazing iften, we rarely get that these days but its not a good idea to do it with the sequels otherwise people lose interest and trust as soon as they realise they arnt really playing a sequel but a different game just with similar basic appearance.
I do think game sequels need to grow and incorporate new ideas, but it is a fine balance of keeping what made the original so good and creating a new experience.
This. This right here I 1000% percent agree with.
People always want the same stuff from their games. That's why Call of Duty will always be a world war II shooter hahaha @@GameStudioLore
The problem was he would promise so many great things and never delivered any of it.
I felt like fable 2 was also rushed
All I remember from fable 3 was I realized my xbox360's clock setting was wrong mid way between the game so I changed it to the correct time resulting in earning a shit ton in rent money and interest in game. I accidently cheated in a fortune, so the ending of "would you like a lot of gold?" was completely pointless to me.
One of the craziest things about these games to me was the decision to pull them off PC. I completely stopped following the games when I couldn't buy Fable 2 on PC.
Surely the money made from a PC audience would have helped.
Fable 1 was the most memorable, fable 2 was fun, 3 i just couldnt stand the hold hands mechanic
Awesome video
I loved Fable 3. Played it again during Covid and I felt like a kid again
A kid? How old are you?
way younger than me lolol
The fable games were part of my peak childhood memories
yuh esp Fable1
The only thing i liked about 3 was combining the powers
this was a dope idea, and somethig I hope gets looked at by Playground games for the new one, but I doubt theywill try and be too crazy for the first attempt
Fable 3 was so painful it made me quit rpgs for a long time.
Good video. Such a shame the game didn't reach it's full potential. But such is the legacy of Fable.
I only played Fable III and I didn't really like it. I found the gameplay shallow I also found the point it was making about the burden of leadership to be shallow as well because it completely undermines its own point by making it very easy to circumvent the problem by just having a lot of money.
Exactly! Id give Fable 1 a chance tho if you can. its awesome
It was my first fable game and i loved it ngl. Maybe i was blinded by my ignorance. But i still love it
bro I just discovered your channel from the algorithm randomly, but it seems really obvious to me that you put a ridiculous amount of effort into your videos. This deserves so much more views and attention, and I wish you all the best.
Amateur tip, I'd advise maybe focusing on more modern/recent games since the algorithm usually recommends those over older boomer games like this.
Thank you so much! Appreciate it! Is fable 3 boomer now =((( Im old!
The guy seriously needs to learn how to read. He says the wrong words constantly while reading quotes and sounds like a buzz feed AI voice
I always hoped that the Fable franchise would make a comeback. I know Lions head studios is defunct, but that doesn't mean that it's IP can't be purchased and reinvigorated.
I mean, so long as it stays true to the original title...and not "made for modern audiences."
There's one in development.
@HallowedKhaos91 yeah, I heard about that shortly after this comment. And, unfortunately, it is being "made for modern audiences." So, hard pass.
The best story arc in Fable 3 was the intro with the chicken.
I have to say Fable 2 has some of the best post game content in any fable, I just couldn't really get past 31 hours in Fable 3, like i have in Fable 2
I remember a bug in the original that allowed you to save your sister and still get the most powerful sword, ahh good times!
Fable seemed to always have some fun bugs within it
Oh the irony of making a game about meeting a deadline to fulfill the treasury, while you yourself are trying to meet a deadline to fulfill the treasury.
I have literally only read the video title but I really enjoyed enjoyed Fable 3. I still dig up the old 360 to play it every few years and I'm a devout Sony Man. I'm definitely interested in what the video has to say though! It is a far from perfect game and I've no illusions about its quality. Ok, going to go watch the video now! 😊
Hope you enjoyed it lol.=)
I honestly loved fable 3. But It would have been interesting to see how much better it could have been .
The premise seemed pretty good, even if it was miles from the OG fable.
@ I would have to agree, I still play fable 1 from time to time. Great game
Fable 2 is still one of my favorite games to this day, I wish I could play on my pc
And years later corporations still havent learned... hope we can get back to good games one day
A lot of indie games have been pushing the boundaries and making some dope games. But yeah, the "AAA" space is all about the money now
I liked this game but HATED that they removed the follow command so you had to hold hands with some other dude when leading him somewhere.
Peter Mol-Lie-Neux He was the villain of his own devs. I wonder if he started sprouting horns and buzzing flies halfway through.
I mean if a man's worse sin is What Molineux did that's far from a villain in the world he didn't live up to all his promises on a video game hardly a demon hell I would hardly say that someone who's even going to go to hell
and I'm going to be honest with you viewing someone like that as that villainous is pretty immature and shows a real lack of real world experience and social interaction
@@yami122 You have to be joking, please tell me you are joking?
This is clearly a reference to the game, how the main character sprouts horns and gains buzzing flies, and his pushing his team to do ridiculous things, making them change directions mid project repeatedly, he is "their villain" Did you even watch the video? Have you even played the game?? If you are serious, I feel very bad for you. Despite all this my comment was CLEARLY satirical. I think you may be projecting here as your tonedeaf response is pretty immature and shows a real lack of real world experience and social interaction.
@@nebulouscat2210 I haven't played the game since it released
As usual, too much executive interference caused terrible games which caused the downfall. Like 90% of stories are this. When will executives finally learn to just let creatives do their thing?
Then you never release anything and you loose millions
Nothing will ever change as long as it's not their jobs on the line if a project is unsuccessful
I'd look at star citizen as a reason why it's not always greener on the other side.
Nah, PM was just as much a part of the problem, if not more. Dude had no idea what gamers wanted, and couldn't make his damn mind up. Holding hands to lead characters, removing traditional game menus, dumbing the game down more and more, isn't "being a creative".
At least it was on PC unlike some other Fable...
yeah i never got that. It has to be some license issue or something >
The removal of the action system from Fable 2, and making us level up via the road to rule; were just bad ideas. Fable 2 was introduced me to the series so I realize I'm a bit biased; however I also really loved Fable 1 as well once I got the chance to play it when it was remastered.
Lionhead should have told them “we aren’t releasing it until it’s ready” then take to social media to show the players would rather wait…
Public pressure would have allowed them to take longer..
All it would have taken was a head to have some balls and stand up to the overlords.
I played Fable 1, 2 & 3.
I got Fable when it first dropped and it was a lot of fun to play, I enjoyed the combat, environments, most of the Demon Doors, collecting books & Silver Keys but sadly once the story was over with everything done there was nothing else left to do. I was sad I couldn't return to the Arena to put my most powerful equipment to the test, couldn't refight Jack of Blades' Dragon form again or refight the bosses for the fun of it.
Fable 2 was great, the emotes were more fun to use, the inclusion of the dog was great, the story progression was well paced, the angel / demon forms were better than Fable 1, the larger variations of weapons were a welcome inclusion as was the inclusion of clothing and clothing customisation. I really liked testing my mettle at the Colosseum whenever I felt like it, I had fun robbing Reaver's place hundreds of times so I could buy his mansion and the Castle, the capability to purchase and upgrade houses to rent them out was nice. The Demon Doors were fun, the combat system was better and more fun than the original as was the Enchantments system.
Fable 3 sucked ass! The emoting was incredibly lazy and rather difficult, the characters were bland and boring, got sick of NPC's getting in my face, the ranged & magic was op as hell while the melee combat sucked major ass, money was extremely easy to get (was able to get $6,000,000 in 3 days of play), the road to rule was boring and uninspiring. The angel / demon forms were crap, the costumes were very limited and ass, the tattoos, hairstyles and facial hair options were shit, the variation between dyes were pathetically limited, the dog was brainless, the Demon Doors were boring to interact with, the enemies were either braindead run headfirst into you types or the types that'd strafe, attack you and laugh at you. It was too easy to end the game with all the kept promises, get enough money in the vault to get the special chest, sacrifice all the money and remake the exact same amount in 3 hours. The relationship quests for every character was too easy to do and was too boring because it was the same quests over and over and over again. I ended the game by owning every single property in the game and with max level furniture, I put the rent on the lowest cost but still got millions in hours and with nothing to spend the cash on.
i think this nicely sums up everything really. Instead of building on what worked, it was decided to go in a different direction and completely change it. All while running out of time >
If I just quit my job, there is no way in hell I would go back to that place for a meeting with the boss. The second I walked out that door I no longer work for you
Fable 3 was a good game it was fun. Not great but good.
29:48 Interesting and creative choice, adding a D into the word "vulnerable".
Gotta mix it up sometimes
Wow. We got 1/3 of the intended game. Sounds like the full game wouldve been incredible. The creator got greedy and stupid. We need a remake of fable 3 with all the ideas implemented and it being more of an rpg than an adventure game
Weird I'm pretty sure there was an announcement for a new fable entry. Ofc not from lion head studios.
Your video give the vibe that the franchise is dead, but in reality Microsoft gave it another shot and didn't buried it.
Edit: I love your video. Nice voice. And you are calm and collected. Now I will binge watch some of your content :D
Fable III took me Four or so hours to beat on the day I purchased it and I was so shocked I finished it that fast then was disappointed that it had no depths when I thought I was getting to the point of depth in the story
dang 4 hours? Couldve traded it in at Gamestop for 1.54$
WE ARE BACK!
I would love to see you do Batman: Arkham Asylum next, it's one of my all-time favourite games! :D
Someone should do a go fund me for it. Fable 4 would be a huge refresher
The cast list is legendary. I seem to hear more and more famous people each play through like mark heap who plays Brian, the owner of all the gnomes. You probably know him from Friday night dinner
Shalom jackie
Lol Mike West dissing Oblivion when in least it’s an interactive and alive open world. Immersion is what people want in a role playing game.
Ha yeh, in the recording you can hear my kinda laugh lol. I was like dude, what are you talking about
Great video
Man, I still remember killing everyone in town in Fable 1 just so that I could buy their houses, haha
Vicious lol
Peter Molyneaux was a huge part of the problem. The guy just couldn’t rein himself in. Always shoving in costly and completely unnecessary features like the pause menu in Fable 3. The new fable that’s coming out looks terrible.
1 piece of gold for 1 person. Our brother did it the evil way and struggled so much. I said, bro hold my Jameson. Did it the good way. Too bad that meant not building the brothel. If you want to play a game, that's very interesting and made by the creators of Fable. Play Kynseed.
Wow it does looksuper fable-y. Ive never heard of that game, thank you
Fable 3 was so disappointing, especially because 1 and 2 were so good. 😢
To this day i am still angry about what happened to fable. One of my most favorite videogames of all time and the game just died and disappeared. I loved all of them, fable 1, 2, and 3.
I honestly never had a problem with Fable 3, and i played it quite a bit. For what it had, to me it felt like a continuation of the second game
What's also crazy is Lying Peter original said in an interview that the original king/queen in Fable 3 was going to be your hero in Fable 2 ported over. Then you'd over throw your father or mother in a epic fight... we all saw how that turned out.
I never saw this while reading interviews. Interesting
Everyone loved fable 3 idk who is smoking good drugs but literally no one I’ve ever met hated that game as a kid
Ya i just replayed it recently and i still really enjoy it.
Angry joe hated it but i liked it
Playing fable 2 right now
I still think fable 1 the lost chapters was the best. If it was remastered for the recent console and update SOME of the mechanics id still happily buy it again.
i miss this game
I miss all the fables =(
I wish I could get a steam copy of this game, all I want to do is play coop with my gf.
It actually was my favorite version. Fable 1 was too clunky and unresponive. Fable 2 was alright but too many ways to exploit the game. Gable 3 plot was fantastic. You might have no idea how difficult it is to manage every property in Abion, keep everyone happy and still save everyone possible. Daunting task but doable with enough diligence. Plus spell weaving was amazing like seriously who wouldnt want to cadt flaming tornadoes?
Honestly, if it wasn't for the "money as XP" and end money- i mean "morality" system, this game would of been great.
The issue with fable is depth. No amount of emoji wil replace real life interactions .oblivion made u want to keep playing while fable 2 which was the compatitor was like a small trip with no depth. Fable 2 had some great ideas like jobs wives. But it overall had zero depth.and man microsoft are the worst. Lionhead made games that made profit 3 to 4 times yet for microsoft they wanted more so they shove this team to do a multiplayer only game service game an impossible task to finish. What an awful company. Now they bough bethesda. But at this point everhthing is for a live service app anyway
So basically PM was just too old by this point and was way out of touch with what gamers of that time actually wanted. I'm sorry but every quote from him in this video just makes me scream "WTF???" Hand holding makes you feel more powerful???? Are you kidding me? Removing health and experience? No traditional menus? Dumbing down everything so that a toddler can play? What on earth was this guy smoking? It's no wonder I hated Fable 3 so much. It honestly sounds like the guy just wanted to make a boring interactive story/sim game, devoid of any actual rpg elements or gameplay. Like go ahead and do that...with a new game, not your existing franchise and destroying it.
After every fable entry he went further and further down the "casual" route. I really think his end goal was to just sell to a large amount of people and to him, specifically targeting people who weren't gamers and getting them into games was the answer.
Fable went from RPG to Action Adventure.
Assassins Creed went from Action Adventure to RPG.
I can’t believe they made one sequel let alone two. I was excited for the first game, but it was over just when it started getting good. I think I did everything and the game was less then 20 hours(so long ago) may have been 12 hours. I wanted a refund.
It’s just sad because all anyone wanted was more fable 2. If another fable 2 dlc was released today it would probably make more money than fable 3 made.
I love Fable as separate games, but as a franchise I just wish they kept it going along the same lines as Fable 1… as in keep the fantasy, heroes story. Instead of completely wiping out heroes, vilifying the Heroes Guild & turning it Victorian/modern and adding in guns etc. I just wish they kept and expanded on the original lore instead of time jumping so drastically. It made me so mad they turned ‘natural’ magic into gloves🙄 if the protagonist was really a hero and descended from heroes they shouldn’t need some freaking gloves to use magic. While I did like the spell weaving… the lore just did a 180
Tbh if you want to make the player feel powerful, you've got to do it through game mechanics. Games are an interactive medium, so I don't think that narrative is the way to go here, for example I think having the combat system be more complex and function like a sandbox could definitely make a player feel very powerful. The dumbed down combat in Fable 3 really just isn't it, I also really disliked the road to rule as the way it's designed made me feel like I had a lot less control over my build.
yeah the idea didnt work. PM goal was just to try and market the game to non gamers to try and sell a certain amount of copies >
I always thought this game got way more hate than it deserved, I could restart this game rn...actually may do it this weekend. The only thing I really hated that reeked of "corporation" were the paywalls. No game should make it impossible to collect all weapons/armors or skins or whatever without paying for them. Also I really hated how some items could only be able attained if you traded with an online player, so you invite a rando in your world and then they immediately start GTAing your world and killing everyone
Rng ruined this game for me.
Everything is RNG like some MMO instead of the single player game its supossed to be.
Counter kills? Nah removed for random finishers that can or cant happen.
Sub targeting? Nah chance of random finishers you can't controll.
Set chests and loot? Nah rng items show up in the chests.
Customizing your weapons? Nah RNG upgrade when you upgrade.
Weapons in shops? Nah rng.
Dialogue wheel? Nah 3 choices thats purely RNG so have fun slow dancing as 2 straight dudes trying to become friends for a discount.
Set unique children like Lady grey giving zombie kids in Fable 2? Nah your white hero with white wife/husband has a kid from Aurora or black because RNG is fun!
Kids dressed as their parents and enviroment? Nah your kids with a noble wife living in the caste dresses like Bowersome poverty.
They literally went out of their way to replace every system they made for Fable 2 with RNG for no reason that I can see beyond being too lazy to properly code
No, it completely deserves all the hate it receives and then some.
Microsoft destroys everything it touches.
microsoft gonna miccrosoft. Sad that they just do this to studios instead of letting em make games. Like amazon they basically have unlimited money and if they put even a fraction of that to their side projects they'd make lots more