Divers React to French free-diver inside a cave!
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2024
- A lot of people cannot imagine cave diving with two tanks because they worry they will run out of air inside the cave...now imagine doing that without tanks at all!
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The words "free-diver" and "cave" should never be used in the same sentence.
well if you have a problem it really doesnt matter if the next airbubble is 60m above you or sideways... no?
😅 oops!
@@will.green. Please explain
@zimenoschosch6764 I see what you're saying, I think, but that mentality is what kills. The issue with having a solid ceiling is that you can't bail if faeces hits the air conditioning unit. Travelling horizontally 60m is slower than ascending 60m, too, well if you don't have to deco at least.
@@BrazenBull91 its actually quicker in freediving because youre negatively buoyant below 13m
No way they said freediving is the ideal technique to explore that cave lmao, literally a death trap
LOL Woody,I liked when you said "their gonna say phwuckayou"🤣🤣
Best part of Mondays are the dive talk videos
That fan coral swimthru was sooo beautiful
1. Watching this made me feel out of breath.
2. If I were down there scuba diving, and I saw this guy just chilling down there, the look of surprise on my face would 100% flood my mask 🤣
(as the kid of a dive master, all the other dive masters have a tendency to love either making me laugh or scaring me underwater, and then mime-laughing at me when I inevitably have to clear my mask 🤣)
Free divers tend to use snorkels, but having a snorkel in during a shallow water blackout is extremely dangerous. We take our snorkel out after our last breath and do not put it back in until we’ve finished our recovery breaths (shallow water blackout frequently occurs after the first breath on the surface)
Why is it that you have to take the snorkel out? CO2 buildup?
@@jenniferphilly if you black out without a snorkel the pressure will keep your mouth shut. If you have a snorkel in, you will inhale salt water which is awful for your lungs
I've seen that entire documentary. It's really good. The amazing part to me is not he free diver but the camera man who has to hang with him and be behind him in the cave....
New episode 😍 I dont dive, terrified of water, but cant get enough of Dive Talk!
'Poor kuh roll' and 'poor crow' is roughly the right way to say it ;)
Oh I thought it was potpourri and polkaroo.
Mmm, pork roll...
@@ANYHOO0 Yes but the QE at the middle is pronounced normally
@@mekan0001 I wish haha
Thanks Gus and Woody. I've now been shamed enough by watching Dive Talk to start looking into getting rebreather certified. In all honesty, watching the life of the wreck completely alter after the bubble breathers arrived was very eye opening.
I can recommend a video of one freediver, can't remember exactly who, but he did a swim through the arch in the Red Sea. Without fins too if I am correct.
William Truebridge, diving the arch at Dahab, no suit, no fins. At 58m depth. ruclips.net/video/hrXQbucZUDA/видео.htmlsi=lpzENn_Gq-i-52Lk
I did free diving when younger. Never heard anyone doing freediving in a cave, it’s nonsense. Like in regular diving a buddy or “spotter” was also highly recommended. I would not be alive today without my diving buddy.
I am french and i love to lessen to you guys talking french!! 🤣🤣
That’s basically a football field swimming JUST to make it there and back not to mention spending time there. How incredible
That "khraw sau" at the end took me out lol
The "pucker factor" was high on that one.
Woody you always swagged out in the pink dive talk apparel, I’m gonna need to get me some soon
Gus your french is awesome! Croissant to you =)
There's nothing wrong with going into a cave as a freediver as long as you are certain of your abilities. That means lots of underwater laps at the pool with a dive buddy until you can comfortably swim 200m underwater on a single breath, and long holds at depth and under pressure again with a buddy for safety. Lots and lots of apnea tables every single day, yoga and lung packing for years until you develop the adaptations to allow you to do this. Even then it is never going to be completely safe, and only a very few will reach a level that will allow them to do something like cave diving.
Additionally, freedivers remove the snorkel from their mouth, because when you surface as a freediver, you want your first breath to be an inhale and not an exhale. Inhaling, adds additional oxygen to your lungs that are almost depleted, where exhaling removes that last remaining bit of oxygen, which may cause you to blackout. There are some Italian divers however who do the opposite and keep the snorkel in, believing that you should surface and purge the water from your snorkel. They believe that this way if you do blackout, then you are naturally able to breathe from the snorkel while unconscious on the surface. It is a divided matter of opinion with valid argument from both sides.
Just the wee problem of laying a bit of line! Lol
Love your videos, guys! While I have not begun scuba diving, you two have definitely got me to think about getting certified
i find it quite hard to do 25 metres under water... and i mean horizontally not down.. just about managed to do the entire length of my local pool
these are a bit different. Freediving involves being properly weighted so you only have to get past a few feet, and then can let yourself 'fall' down to the depth you want which conserves a lot of energy. Where as swimming along the surface of a pool, you tend to not have fins, and you have to propel yourself the whole way which uses a lot more energy.
Of course, when cave diving started in the UK, there was no way to breathe air - surface supplied or cylinders, so all the cave diving back then was by way of free diving!
I'm pretty sure it's like free climbing. You just assume you're going to die every time you do it and if you make it out that's a plus.
Guarantee Gus could learn French easily, as he is already bilingual and French is a romance language with similarities to Spanish.
First one teaches you nothing. If you speak two though, the rest are easy.
Yeah Spanish can help with certain aspects easier but it doesnt really make it simple.
French is gramatically very different dispite the Latin roots.
Btw I know this because Ive lived in Quebec all my life and I speak French fluently
Quebecois french would be grammatically unique. That makes sense.
“That was you” “you’re an elitist” get em woody!
“In Potpourri!” Hahahahaha!!
Gus lost it too.
😊
Intéressant , je ne savais pas que Gus parle Français.
I've come a long way dreaming from "I could never" to "I don't know if I ever could" when it comes to the idea of cave diving. Buttt... freediving... a cave? You have 5 to 7 minutes to fix any problem, then game over. Wow.
This is one of the best freedivers in the world, and this documentary actually got me into freediving in the first place. I can’t imagine ever having the physical capability to do this, nor the mind control, since you need to be in complete control at that depth. And you need to be able to do a bunch more, so this guy really does super hero stuff.
On that note: check out the part of the documentary where he spears white sharks to tag them for science.
Also for normal people freediving is really amazing. It’s fun and safe and very misunderstood. Anyone can hold their breath for 3 minutes with some training. Go check it out!
Holding your breath while resting and kicking for 5 minutes under water are different things. The world record for constant weight freediving in IDEAL condition with months and years of preparation is 131 meters. Variable weight is a little more than 150. So, what he is talking about saying they dive > 200 meters in the OPEN OCEAN with current, etc and hold their breath for 7 minutes? That is total BS.
@@Beyondthebreakers Maybe he was talking about no-limits? Herbert Nitsch did 214 meters in no-limits freedive. AIDA recognized record from 2007. He also went down to 253 meters in 2012 but got the bends and retired
@@Beyondthebreakers 7 minutes for a guy like this is credible to me. The static world record is currently at 11:35. This is without additional oxygen intake.
Also depth is another experience, because of freefall and pressure on the lungs, and in this case, Fred is able to pull himself to conserve energy. This guy is legit, just check out documentaries with him in it.
Again, there’s a lot of misconceptions about freediving. Just try it and see for yourself 😊
@@rykehuss3435 well, those dives include variable weight diving on the way down and assisted balloon inflation on the way up in ideal condition. Obviously, not something you would do in the open ocean on your regular dive. Furthermore, there are very people in the world who can do it. I would not even call it "diving", it is basically transporting your body down and up with assistance. The only true diving is constant weight diving.
@@ams_19_ Static apnea is laying motionless , not kicking in the cave. Molchanov spent much less than five minutes on his world record attempt, and he is the world record holder and significant part of his dive included just free fall in ideal condition with safety in place, not even kicking. Now, you want to say the guy is casually kicking in the cave at 20 m for 5 minutes? )))
Woody made a very intresting point about not breathing through your snorkel once you have surfaced. If you surface, and you are holding possition on the surface, your snorkel should be in your mouth at all times, in case you have a samba or a shallow water black out. Because the snorkel is in your mouth, if you black out, it hugely decreases the chance of your airways flooding. But if you surface and climb into a boat or onto land straight away you are safe to remove your snorkel for obvious reasons. Informative and captivating video, thank you guys ❤🤟🏼
I love that you guys have turned dive talk into mystery science theater 3000 ;) love watching you guys talk shop.
Great to see you guys!
The snorkel thing is that you should not have a snorkel in your mouth during the dive. This is because if you blackout, the snorkel becomes an open tube from the ocean to your lungs.
Breathing through your snorkel during your surface interval is fine
Fred was word champion free diving. I was lucky to do his safety in French Polynesia, when he was filming a documentary.
OMG, I was holding my breath along with them during that cave exploration. How spectacular though.
And the beauty of marine life on that wreck. And the colours.
'Underwater mass tourism'. Sacrilegious in fact. The fish simply fled.
Love the banter between you two; cracks me up.... I wanna go to Pot Pourri as well!
Dude needs a Dive Talk Go rebreather!!!! 😃. Phoko You!!! 😂. I have a brilliant DT marketing idea. The world needs the “Woody Alpern Rosetta Stone Language Module”. I think we could all greatly benefit from Woody’s linguistic brilliance!!!! 😂. Sharing means caring!!!
Wow I haven’t seen any videos in a while GUS you’re looking good bro ! You’ve lost a lot of weight
Good on you brother keep it going
Gus it looks like you are getting in pretty good shape, keep it up brotha!
Came here from a 2/3 year old video and wow Gus you look so different I’m very happy for you
Gus, i checked out the video you mentioned in the end and you are like twice the current size in it. Congrats on your fitness journey !
I used to sail to these islands. I call them 'profiteroles'. Easier :D
The french pronunciation wasnt bad!
Freediving in caves is it's own little thing actually, very advanced and you need at least a few years of training id say to even attempt it in my opinion. Either way there are diving videos of blue springs and ginnie springs on RUclips, I went to ichetucknee and ginnie and went freediving in ginnie ballroom, devils ear, devils eye, and little devil along with the blue hole and crystal river at ichetucknee. Absolutely gorgeous and a completely different experience with no bubbles. If you can get over the fear it actually is quite peaceful.
The ocean, such an amazing place and so beautiful but it also absolutely terrifies me and my fear is getting worse as I get older 😢
Woody I hope you are doing better. Gus Looking good. Proud of your work. Enjoy watching you guys
"Le Donator" is a magnificent wreck in the parc de Porquerolle near Toulon in France. located between two island, quiet close to the Var region coast, there is around this area a very constant and average strong current. That's the main reason of the presence of these purple soft corals call locally "gorgognes". as it is in the middle of nowhere (sandy sea bed), it fixed most of the local life surrounded by all local kinds of predators. the depth of the sea bed make it quiet not easy to dive and even if a lots of divers go for it, open circuit force them to say very short time on it.
Commonly, the RIB drops you by two divers every 3 minutes before the marking boey to let you immerge before the current push you to the boey rope you need to catch to go down. then you go down as quick as possible staying the more horizontal you can to reduce the narcossis effet at the descent. Then, 50m downer, you need to go under the hight of the wreck structure immediately to avoid the current to push you away and to make you abort inevitably the dive and start to re ascent. if you reach the rear of the wreck then, you can admire the router (around 54 to 58m depth) full of soft corals before re ascending to the helm wheel for a quick photo and then go up the front through the wreck structures (where you saw the purple/pink soft corals galery on the video) to reach the first hold that you see with an open top. It is after all a very safe wreck as long as you stay in the easy reachable areas as it is always open both sides or on the top. I did it 4 times and never went inside the hull in some difficult space to reach and there is plenty enough to see that way.
by the way, open circuit is quite the norm on this wreck in France and all diving centers I went there with, were extremly strict on the planning of the dive. You are ordered to leave the bottom at 12 to 14 minutes of diving time OR if you reach 110b left whatever comes first. If you don't, you will be blacklisted.
I did it the four times with a 18L air tank with two full reg and only ONE buddy. because it is very important not to look for any of us when time comes to make decisions! (no time for that) everything is minutes planned and normally, you leave the wreck after only 9 to 10 minutes on it and get blowned by the current during the ascent and spend the 14 to 17 minutes of deco in big blue while the RIB is following your orange stick.
The interesting thing about this area is that half a mile away from this wreck you have another one called "Le Grec" that is even nicer and a less deep (43m) with almost the same life. there are in the surrounding many wrecks from the second world war and even a french submarine that was intentionally sunk. a few caves or caverns and the marine life protection parc makes this place one off the most full of life in the mediterranean sea.
If you ever plan to go there once, don't hesitate let me know and I will give you many contact to help you in your organization. Same around Marseille where I saw last Saturday a Mola Mola (that's for Woody😉).
Beautiful place, amazing free diver BUT overhead environment at that depth it’s reckless at minimum. I don’t have a problem for them to do it, my issue is for them to publish it in a documentary like it’s a good thing! 🙄🙄
Looks very interesting, good show 😊
This is my favorite content on the internet
Yes!!! Another video right before I head to my tribes creek to dive and clean it out!! (: I’m recording it today
I love your guy's channel so much
Hi guys! Porquerolles and Port Cros islands are cool to explore underwater. Come fly to Paris then Marseille or Nice and we'll go dive on the Donator. By the way, yes we often dive 150ft on one tank :-) What's cool on the film is that the photographer Christian Petron (old white hair guy) that does security for the free divers is a french legend in underwater photography. Amazing guy! The idea was that the 2 free divers could stay 3mn in the cave and then come back out where Christian was waiting for them... of course they stayed longer and Christian Petron got super scared! Take care and enjoy your dives 🙂
Why do I feel like Woody and Gus are my buddies? I never met the chaps, if ever I did meet them I feel like I’d sit down expecting them to know who and I am, and would start a convo like “so what we doing now fellas?” 😂
Wow! Gus!!! Iv only today just started watching you guys, great channel btw! I started because I'm an mma fan and just watched your cowboy reaction. But my main takeaway is how good you look! You look in phenomenal shape. You look younger and more masculine... hope that doesn't seem condescending in anyway I was just seriously impressed with your transformation! Can't wait to do my first dive after watching these videos now but I don't think il ever go for the cave diving 😅
Thank you Gus and Woody 🥰 ❤️
The guy next to him in the zodiac is Christian Patron, the man who was the cameraman operator on the movie the Big Blue.
Guys, the Donator
Is the most amazing wreck to dive in porquerolles. And close enough Wild Cat, le Grec and the Rubis. Definitely must do !
I am new to the channel and I'm sure this has been beat to death but Gus my guy looking good! Nothing wrong with you in the old videos don't get me wrong but you know the love I'm sending I'm sure. Great channel both of you keep up the good work!
Cant wait for a clip of Woody making reservations with Delta to phukrow and Phakau😂😂😂
The snorkel comes out while submerged and during the first 2 or so surfacr breaths. That's to build a habit so it's not in your mouth if you did happen to black out giving water a path to lungs. But you can't explore without it.
Awesome channel! I found you from one of your cave diving gone wrong reactions. could you guys react to Scary Interesting’s video on the shaft cave disaster?
I'm not a diver but something about going down to that depth on ONE breath has to be very peaceful for that person and a personal challenging I can see why people would want to do this, would I ever do this heck noo!!
Hello! Love your alls videos as always 💚 i know this ones kinda older, however would you all be able to cover la fosse dionne - the spring? I believe access is closed now however was just curious. Have an amazing year!!
Beautiful love the water and being around it I would like to be able to do that
The snorkel is more for the breathe up before the dive. Some divers prefer to breathe up face down with a snorkel while other prefer resting on a pool noodle on their back for the breathe up. Primarily personal preference for recreational freediving although it tends to be a delineation based on if you came up through freediving for spear fishing or competitive freediving. I don't know of any competitive freedivers that use the snorkel method as it is added drag causing you to expend just a little bit more energy and it is easier to relax on your back while breathing comfortably without a snorkel. Freediving in caves is mostly considered a no-go zone, at least by any instructors I have ever met, but there are a handful of very experienced freedivers that will dive very specific caves. Usually, caves that are very well known and have limited issues regarding silt outs. Honestly though, I don't know a single person who is cross-trained in both disciplines enough to really consider it a smart or safe venture.
I dove the Donator last summer, it's really impressive but it's a short dive because of the depth (in France we can dive down to 60m/180ft, with proper training).
The biggest challenge of any free diver is resisting the urge to say WOW 🤐
Amazing! I could never!
I’m a surfer not a scuba diver (unless you count that one time in a pool).
I use the free diver tables to extend my breath hold times, when we are off to a big wave destination. I go from 1:30 to 3:00 minutes in about a month of everyday practice.
I am not sure if this translates to non surfer as we hold our breath a bit.
I have always wondered if breath hold training would reduce the amount of oxygen a diver uses. I smell an experiment
I would bet these free-divers panic every other dive thinking I'm gone drown, hurry, I'm gone drown!
2:22 Yes, you should really see the Donator! Considered one of the most beautiful wrecks in the world, for good reasons. I had the chance to dive on it in 2021, wearing two 12L tanks in sidemount (air) and an oxygen deco tank. That's the bare minimum in my opinion to experience this wreck in one dive. I had a great time, but the slight narcosis at 50 meters might have made me miss many great things.
That's a wreck made for rebreathers, on trimix. II'l be training in may on the Flex 2 just for the purpose of diving such great wrecks!
Have a good time!
Cheers from France
I have dived Port Cros, everyone normally goes to one of the two sites at La Gabiniere , and I have dived most of the sites around Porquerolles but never did I dive the Donator..
The Donator is actually between 35m and 50m, so it's doable on a single if you remain at the 35m mark, personally I don't think it's a great idea..
The south of France is great but many of the wrecks are 40 and beyond, The Grec, the Donateur and the Rubis to name the most famous.
@@FreddyNietzsche. Indeed! What was planned for me was a first dive on the Donator, lunch at Port Cros, then second dive on Le Grec. But Since the Mediterranean sea is so unpredictable, the weather went from an oily sea to agitated in the time I was under (around 1 hour). So the dive boat decided to make us dive at La Gabinière unstead. That was a deception, until I had an encounter with a Pastenague stingray measuring around 3 meters from tip to the end of its spaghetti tail!
Yes, it's doable on a single tank like you said, but not safe. What shocked me several times in the south of France, is that the great visibility gives a sense of safety to even the most seasoned divers. I've heard instructors say "go light, a single 10L tank is enough for a 50 meter dive! Just keep an eye on your pressure gauge", and practice this saying...
I often passed as a funny over-safe guy in the south, but I learned in the bay of Lorient, Britanny. Where the visibility isn't great most of the time. When something goes wrong past 30-35 meters, you'd better have a lot of gas on you, preferably divided in a twinset or sidemount, and be trained.
50 meters on a single 15L tank is common practice in France, and there aren't many accidents, but that's teasing the devil in my opinion...
The Rubis is on my dive list! I'm waiting to be rebreather certified on trimix, though. I'd like to be "sober" down there ;)
That Free diver is super well known. He is doing a lot of filming work. I think is now living on the Azoren Islands
1:13: Porquerolles island, in the Hyères archipelago.
that coral looks amazing from underneath it ?
From a free diving perspective - diving 20m down and 30m sideways - ie 50m to the surface is the same time to surface as simply diving down 50m.
While you definitely would not want to go into restrictions, beyond light, somewhere with the ability to get lost, etc, maybe it isn’t totally unreasonable to go in a little?
These free divers in caves with no air have huge brass balls that click when they walk.
Damn, the islands of Pork Roll 1 and Pork Roll 2 sure look tasty. I mean, amazing.
7 minutes without breathing?!?! Aw heck to the no, I would die.
Porquerolles. I dive there all the time. That's where I learned 30 years ago. Prequ'île de Giens. Near Toulon.
4:44 my ADHD brain instantly was like "that's like the ivory tower from fantasia in the neverending story!!!!" 😂😂❤❤😮😊
"Maybe in potpourri they do that." LOL
Yo where can we get that sweet grim reaper necklace?? Looks fantastic but I didn't see it on the dive talk shop
This is a custom necklace made to commemorate my 100th cave dive. It is not for sale and there is no other like it.
No line...Free diving in a cave... 😵😵💫
I drowned watching this.
"...or any scientific topic" 🤣🤣🤣
Hey guys, when it comes to freediving, one of my compatriots, Herbert Nitsch, is one of the absolute GOATs with a ton of world records to his name. He suffered multiple embolisms while resurfacing after a no limits dive to 241m, but recovered and is still free diving. He also does insanely good doc parts. Check him out!
❤️ from Austria
ruclips.net/video/tCpJST_c2Ko/видео.htmlsi=uj4dgB-hs7NjlBQo
This is insane , i was a commercial diver for over 9 years and i cant hold my breath more than a minute. lol i like to breath air, no thanks. Ive had to hold my breath before on some incidents when my air has frozen up in the dive hat and i was wedged working on a switch inside of the torpedo tube inside a nuclear submarine. We couldnt fit into area with a bailout bottle.
Thanks i got a idea 💡 after 30 second mark thank you for inspiring me
When I couldn’t sleep as a kid, I would lay in bed and practice holding my breath sometimes. Was able to go 4 1/2-5 minutes
You are the cure for a bad morning…thank you
Port-cros is the oldest marine reserve in the world, I was lucky enough to dive it back in the 90’s it was started in the 60’s with help of Jacques Cousteau it’s how the Med ecosystem should be, it’s expensive but you guys and Blue world should give it a go😎
Ok the faw-keru comment caught me off guard 😂😅
The Freediving community is a lot less “regulated” than Scuba Diving. There is formal free, diving training that you can get but most of it revolves around safety and rescue technique for those interested in depth, training and competition. It is great training for every free diver to get it by no means a requirement and just as if not more divers have no formal training. The only time any formal Freediving certification may be required. Is when your training with a group for depth and for competition. There the barrier to entry is rescue training certification classes provide because when you’re pushing your limits you need to know the person who is acting as the safety diver for you can save you if something goes wrong. There is no formal cave Freediving training and I think most free divers would agree that it’s pretty stupid. Again though Freediving is a lot less “regulated” than Scuba Diving and people are going to do what they do. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a terrible idea though.
Can’t wait till I book a trip to potpourri! 😂😂😂😂
For a free diver to cave dive, you would assume they have extensive cave diving experience with gear
WAS WAITING FOR A NEW VID YOU GUYS HELP MY DEPRESSION #TEAM WOODY ;D
"To overcome the breathing reflex"
When are you diving the Nullarbor plain in Australia 😊
The video makes it sound like they come to location, dive once, and leave. In reality they're doing multiple dives, right? I'd imagine that diving the same spot, going a few feet farther each time, would help you build up memory so you'd not get lost
Gus, you’re shrinking! If that’s something you meant to do, good work!