MONAT ZOOM CALL | Top earners give mathematically incorrect advice on how to rank up

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @unumatochild
    @unumatochild 2 года назад +647

    BACK IN MY DAY WE HAD TO WALK UP AND DOWN FACEBOOK CARRYING 50 LBS OF SHAMPOO ON OUR BACKS, YELLING LIKE 1920s NEWSIES TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY OUR WARES!

    • @HannahAlonzo
      @HannahAlonzo  2 года назад +154

      I just spat out my margarita

    • @unumatochild
      @unumatochild 2 года назад +44

      @@HannahAlonzo I'm sorry about your magarita, but happy I could make you laugh.

    • @LaLa-xf7ku
      @LaLa-xf7ku 2 года назад +5

      Brilliant! 🤣🤣❤

    • @MrsMuffin11
      @MrsMuffin11 2 года назад +4

      🤣🤣🤣 oh my gosh

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @yolandaponkers1581
    @yolandaponkers1581 2 года назад +568

    “Ignorance on fire is better than analysis paralysis” has to be one of the most troubling and problematic sentences I have ever heard.

    • @MrsMuffin11
      @MrsMuffin11 2 года назад +5

      🤣🙌🙌🙌

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад +8

      So culty

    • @AndeLikeTheMint
      @AndeLikeTheMint 2 года назад +27

      RIGHT?? Giant Red Flag!!
      "Please come into this with no background knowledge of this company, less than zero training, and your ass literally on fire. No questions please!"

    • @katelynhart8
      @katelynhart8 2 года назад +26

      I wanna shake her and say “no hunny. Stop drop and roll.” Have they never heard of fire safety???

    • @majak1515
      @majak1515 2 года назад +31

      King Julien's quote comes to mind: Quick, to the volcano, before we all come to our senses!

  • @hadsaw
    @hadsaw 2 года назад +638

    It drives me nuts when they take an incredibly common thing and try to force it into a “rags to riches” story. A couple sharing one vehicle? That is so normal!

    • @anon8068
      @anon8068 2 года назад +25

      Just playing devil’s advocate here, but just because something is common/normal, doesn’t mean it’s okay. Sharing a vehicle is totally fine though. More people should do it.

    • @Johanna77777-z
      @Johanna77777-z 2 года назад +51

      @@anon8068 I agree, but sharing a vehicle is normal because many people chose to. Because it's most of the time unessecary to have two cars.

    • @CrystalCat24
      @CrystalCat24 2 года назад +31

      Also her not knowing anything about rank, numbers, car or trip programs but just blindly running with it it SO SAD and a huge red flag.

    • @krissyhenderson4089
      @krissyhenderson4089 2 года назад +7

      Yes I’m a stay at home mom to an infant, my husband works sales from home. My husband got into a wreck last Easter and I lost my 10 year old Nissan Rogue. Now we have a 2017 Kia Forte and even that is too expensive! 😝 we just don’t really need two cars. We barely use the one haha!

    • @majak1515
      @majak1515 2 года назад +31

      YES and I find it so distasteful. It reads to me as privileged people who never really suffered from poverty wanting to get the "points" for being poor. But they are so detached from what the actual "rags" story is bc of their privilege that they end up taking something completely normal and pretending it's somehow tragic and not even noticing the absurdity. AGH. It makes me angry. It just has this "no bread? let them eat cake" vibe.

  • @kateemma22
    @kateemma22 2 года назад +636

    I work in a real marketing job (you know, one that pays, and is for a non-pyramid business) and ‘ignorance on fire’ is the exact opposite of marketing. Marketing is completely understanding the product, understanding the consumer, then figuring out how the two can work to achieve each other’s end goals. If I walked into work and said ‘alright guys, I have NO IDEA about our customers, and not a single clue what this item is about, but I have enthusiasm!’ then my manager would drag me back out by my ear and tell me to come back when I’m no longer drunk.

    • @MrsMuffin11
      @MrsMuffin11 2 года назад +36

      that last sentence sent me 😂😂😂

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @btuck0813
      @btuck0813 2 года назад +3

      Hahahaha

    • @DocBree13
      @DocBree13 2 года назад +1

      This!!!

    • @msmagsmn
      @msmagsmn 2 года назад +4

      This is excellent - I'm laughing so hard 😂

  • @mcjordie
    @mcjordie 2 года назад +111

    absolutely *living* for the cat content in this video lol (as a cat mom, I can totally relate to the melting at your cat deciding to stay in your lap 🥺)

  • @milkteamachine
    @milkteamachine 2 года назад +400

    I don't what it is about this call in particular, but it suddenly hit me how weird it is to go to a "business call" and have the host just give their whole life story. I think it's ok to talk about your career path a little bit, but the amount of detail, her husband's job, her personal life, seems really uncomfortable.

    • @freeflyer151
      @freeflyer151 2 года назад

      Right! Those things wouldn’t even come up in a real business call or meeting 🤦‍♀️ so weird. It’s just a pathetic attempt to brainwash people.

    • @LaLa-xf7ku
      @LaLa-xf7ku 2 года назад +48

      I feel like they all want to stay in their fantasy world. They are not a business owner, she is not a real marketing representative for a legitimate marketing or advertising company. They do not have resumes that are reviewed and then go through the interview process, get an offer letter, accept the offer or counter and sign with the company. They do not receive benefits, 401ks. They dont meet with real clients who dont want to be recruited. These reps PAY the mlm to let them sell shampoo and recruit other people with exaggerated opportunities and their sad personal stories. They then spend all day posting more crap and fantasy bs on reels to try to lure others in to do the same thing! WTF??

    • @jeanieolahful
      @jeanieolahful 2 года назад +32

      It’s supposed to feel like friendship. It’s not friendship.

    • @Anna-Rose-
      @Anna-Rose- 2 года назад +4

      She would sell her soul 🎸

    • @fireplacetunes1311
      @fireplacetunes1311 2 года назад +5

      That's how they get you. I almost got sucked into World Financial Group that way and the guy who was trying to recruit me told me how he was living in his car and could barely afford to buy food...and joining WFG changed everything for him. Crazy thing is this man was crying and I started crying because it was so heartfelt

  • @yesiamsharon
    @yesiamsharon 2 года назад +291

    Zeke's close up!!! Also I should share a decades long joke in our family. When something goes awry, we say at least we aren't in an MLM.

  • @juliebaird4539
    @juliebaird4539 2 года назад +242

    I’ve wanted to be a lot of things in my life but “ignorance on fire” is the absolute worst thing I can think of

    • @tarajh
      @tarajh 2 года назад +14

      That was some next level nonsense! "Share it like crazy even though you don't understand it!"
      Ma'am, WHAT??

    • @jeanieolahful
      @jeanieolahful 2 года назад +1

      What does that even mean?

    • @pattipeters9861
      @pattipeters9861 2 года назад +5

      I read your comment about 4 seconds before she said it. I thought you were making that up, like a parody. Nope! She actually said it. Unreal.

    • @kristenskrenes5093
      @kristenskrenes5093 2 года назад +9

      I saw them open for The Huns back in ‘97.
      😜

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад +1

      @@kristenskrenes5093 🤣🤣🤣

  • @luvzdogz
    @luvzdogz 2 года назад +247

    "I'm just a dumb girl, I'm not good at math or handling money. I'm just a pretty face who says funny things." Oh my barf!!! Is this really the stereotype a young, educated woman should be promoting in this day&age!?!? Gimme a break with that nonsense!

    • @joannachen76
      @joannachen76 2 года назад +37

      I don't think she's targeting educated confident women to be honest, that would be a hard sell demographic. I think she's also saying that to show that this business is so easy, you can do it even if you're not knowledgeable about business or finance at all.

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад +20

      Very problematic. She's exactly the kind of person MLMs target.

    • @normanbelanger729
      @normanbelanger729 2 года назад +34

      “I didn’t really understand the numbers part. I just manifested a Cadillac”

    • @natalietitus3234
      @natalietitus3234 2 года назад +5

      Does she hear herself. Who believes this crap

    • @gregjayonnaise8314
      @gregjayonnaise8314 Год назад +6

      A lot of MLMs target women who are not very financially literate, such as, for example, older housewives who have been dependant on their husbands’ income for decades and would struggle to start careers, or younger women who are struggling to find jobs but haven’t been exposed to the market very much. It’s all about exploiting a vulnerable audience.

  • @georgia777
    @georgia777 2 года назад +107

    My only encounter with a MLM was when I was invited to a neighbor's party selling Pampered Chef. I started laughing at all the specialized tools she was telling us were absolutely necessary to make a decent meal. I am a trained chef (trained in Paris) and the entire table of fancy specialized tools could be easily covered with one decent pairing knife.
    By the time you hunted down your Pampered Chef tool you could have easily accomplished what you wanted with a simple pairing knife.
    I was never invited back

    • @spokenwordpoetries
      @spokenwordpoetries 2 года назад +18

      Never invited back? You won!

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад +8

      They hate when you laugh at them!

    • @creatrixZBD
      @creatrixZBD 2 года назад +6

      I will assume that it’s the fault of autocorrect, and that as a chef, you know how to spell “paring knife” 😂

    • @georgia777
      @georgia777 2 года назад +15

      @@creatrixZBD I'm dyslexic so my spelling is usually poor but I do have a Master's degree.

    • @beepboop449
      @beepboop449 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@creatrixZBDwas that necessary

  • @sandralofgren8266
    @sandralofgren8266 2 года назад +50

    If I went to a zoom call called "training" and had to listen to some random chick talking about her personal life for 30 minutes I'd be pissed. Like imagine going to a college class Economics 101 and then you just have to listen to the professor talk about why he's a professor... Like, what? I'm here for the class, not a novel! Must be the same with these zoom calls, like "I'm here to train and learn, what are you talking about? I don't care at all about you spending time with your hubbie." I don't understand how these zoom calls keep people invested. As far as I can tell, they're time wasted, even for the people within the company.
    Thanks for making these videos, they're great fun!

  • @samlangham7511
    @samlangham7511 2 года назад +107

    I love how often these huns mention that they “aren’t a math person”. Uhhh yeah…. we can tell 😬

  • @mrsmandim
    @mrsmandim 2 года назад +124

    Yes to those in the middle! I was in the middle of the Young Living comp plan for nearly 4 years and could NOT move up no matter how much I tried. I always felt like those at the top made it sound SO EASY to sell and recruit. But I could have “classes” in person and online with 5-40 people and may only sell 1 or 2 kits… and very very few ever wanted to do the business… and the few who did were having a harder time making money that I was. But the vast majority of “trainings” just made me feel like I was terrible, like there was something wrong with me for not being able to succeed. When I would speak up about being stuck at my rank they would say, “just stick with it and you WILL succeed, the only ones who fail or the ones who quit” or “don’t say you are really doing ‘all the things’ because if you were really were then you wouldn’t be stuck”. So I just thought, I must be lazy and terrible at this business, there is something wrong with me that makes others not want to sign up with me. I’m glad I can understand now that it was never my fault, it was a pyramid scheme with products.

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад +12

      That's the perfect definition of an MLM: a pyramid scheme with products. So glad you're outta there.

    • @danielletaylor9733
      @danielletaylor9733 2 года назад +7

      Yes... I fell for Younique and all we heard was 'fake it till you make it' and 'hustle.'
      If we weren't having a party every week we weren't hustling hard enough 🤪

    • @cherylanne6549
      @cherylanne6549 2 года назад +6

      This was the same with me. I got talked into selling Discovery Toys. There were about a hundred other people in my ZIP code selling Discovery Toys. First they let me believe that I could make money just selling and not recruiting. Well after 2 years, I never had a party, I never had a paycheck, I did nothing but boots at craft shows where we never sold anything because everybody showed their friends what they had already and maybe the friend bought it, but we never even reached the amount we had paid for the booth. I went to lots of meetings where I was berated and berated for not working my business hard enough.But I had never made a cent! So I quit and had to hear about how I had failed and it was my own fault. Whatever. I was so much happier afterwards.

    • @ladidaohoh3168
      @ladidaohoh3168 Год назад +7

      Wow Mandi, instead of feeling like a failure you should honestly be giving yourself super kudos, for being able to endure 4 years in a pyramid scheme without getting any proper praise for the work you are doing and getting blamed when it didn’t work. What that tells me about you is, that if you were ever to attach yourself to a business opportunity that was designed for you to succeed, like marketing for a real actual business, the sky is the limit for you, given that you could tolerate being in a pyramid scheme designed for you to lose money for 4 years and not give up, tells me you are goal oriented, you are good enough and you will be super successful, you just need to put your energy into something that is made so you succeed not designed specifically so that only less than half a percent of ppl can succeed.

  • @emilydennie2712
    @emilydennie2712 2 года назад +283

    I kinda like how all the anti-mlm RUclipsrs have different mlms that they get sent a lot of content for. I enjoy how we get a lot of information on different companies depending on the creator!

    • @CHloE748
      @CHloE748 2 года назад +8

      From what I’ve seen (and I’ve seen a TON) every single anti MLMer gets sent Monat more than other MLMs, unless the creator is a former hun with a different company. Like I’m guessing Jessica Hickson for example gets a lot of itworks vids sent to her

    • @rebeccahart
      @rebeccahart 2 года назад +13

      Of course the anti mlm-er with the prettiest hair has monat content 😂

  • @secondsofglory
    @secondsofglory 2 года назад +167

    I'd rather a business sincerely sliding in my DMs and asking me to check them out and not pretending to have any other intentions than a stranger pretend to care about me and pitch me a sale or an "opportunity".
    It's like these people forget to socialize as real human beings!

    • @yolandaponkers1581
      @yolandaponkers1581 2 года назад +11

      Same here! Maybe this sounds extreme, but I sincerely believe this sales pitch disguised as friendship should be illegal. I really do. It can be so destructive for those in a low place that I think it should be outlawed.

    • @livprimitive
      @livprimitive 2 года назад +2

      Right?! #hunbots

    • @melissafernandez9535
      @melissafernandez9535 2 года назад +8

      I think it's incredibly off-putting. I had someone message me on Instagram. I can't remember which company she worked for but I told her I wasn't interested 3 times and she wouldn't quit asking me when I thought I might be interested. I don't typically block people, but I blocked her.

    • @debramccord7707
      @debramccord7707 2 года назад +1

      I would roast someone if they pulled this sleazy crap on me. It’s positively ghoulish and predatory.

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад +1

      @@yolandaponkers1581 enticement law might be applicable, but Im not an expert.

  • @alexst.germain1545
    @alexst.germain1545 2 года назад +42

    You can tell you are an educator by trade. I think videos like yours are exactly what someone contemplating entering or leaving an mlm needs; a rational, thoughtful dialogue delivered with a calm and consistent cadence. As someone who saw the anti-mlm light a long time ago, I find some other creators fun to watch, but if I was still in an mlm, their content could be abrasive. Your content on the other hand I think is both entertaining and welcoming of all audiences.

  • @thebosshouse
    @thebosshouse 2 года назад +73

    Even if their math was correct, they have to account for replacing the downlines who don't stay and those who aren't effective salespeople.

  • @catsav1
    @catsav1 2 года назад +70

    "Ignorance on fire" speaks volumes. One of their 'sayings' in the business is to openly admit that the reps just say whatever they want and make whatever claims and promises they want about the product as long as it sells and recruits.

    • @killerqueendopamine
      @killerqueendopamine 2 года назад +7

      I had to do a metaphorical double take on that phrase. Like did she actually say ignorance on fire? Almost self-aware wolves material…

  • @msmagsmn
    @msmagsmn 2 года назад +12

    'Ignorance on fire' is a terrifying phrase.
    All I can think about how much damage is done by people who don't know what they're talking about but are CERTAIN they're right. It's so destructive.

  • @kerryconklin9828
    @kerryconklin9828 2 года назад +57

    The more of these I listen to, the more exhausted I feel. I thought one of the draws was supposed to be it was easy and you didn't have to work as hard and it fit into your down time. Now you have to do social media, stay on your phone, AND throw parties. It's ridiculous. I'm going to take a nap now.

  • @elizabethgrogan8553
    @elizabethgrogan8553 2 года назад +31

    Well, I've just done the conversion from Euros to dollars. My 6 figure annual salary gives me more than $11k per month. My company car is mine, no taking it back. I have medical cover, 5 weeks paid annual leave, paid sickness leave, shares and other benefits. The lowest paid member of my staff earns $2,500 per month. We are all highly educated and our company is just amazing. These MLM hustlers are just conartists. I fear they will pull in people who simply don't have the money to buy starter packs. Telling them to use their credit cards is shameful. Thanks for highlighting these cons.

    • @LaLa-xf7ku
      @LaLa-xf7ku 2 года назад +1

      I love you for posting this!! I posted the same thing, but different wording. They are playing "marketing leader" it is insane!

  • @kareenah.kreations
    @kareenah.kreations 2 года назад +77

    I cannot with Erika. She has been targeting mom’s since the moment she announced she was pregnant 🙄

  • @bekalynn1994
    @bekalynn1994 2 года назад +92

    Your theory about social media and your feelings of living an unfilled life is spot on. I had to unsubscribe from several accounts on IG because of this exact notion. I saw that I was comparing my life with theirs.

    • @maggiehern3530
      @maggiehern3530 2 года назад +10

      I took a detox from instagram and Facebook in November 2021.. it's been so soothing. That weird feeling I had before is gone. Now I feel more like myself. I'm thinking about going back on soon but I almost see no point.

    • @LaLa-xf7ku
      @LaLa-xf7ku 2 года назад +4

      @@maggiehern3530 I took a break with just fb first Aug 2019 and it was so freeing! Then I turned off notifications for IG & Twitter so if I hear about something that I want to see I log on but it isnt constantly popping up on my phone or computer. It has been wonderful! I feel less anxiety and my self doubt is the lowest it has been for years. The other benefit is control over who I share things with and no pressure to post everything like I did before. We are social beings but everyone has a level they are comfortable with. I even know a few people that were introverts and once the pressure to keep up with all of it was gone they became more social in person. Try turning off your notifications so it isnt a huge change. I really think you will love it.
      Btw ~I do have notifications on for certain RUclips videos but they are completely different interactions than the others. I love the anti-mlm community and the supportive interactions.

    • @Nocturnalux
      @Nocturnalux 2 года назад +2

      This happens even when you have zero interest in flex culture. The only social media I use is goodreads and often I find myself upset when friends and connections read and/or review more than I do.
      So even though I read 158 books in 2021, across three languages, including Japanese, I still find myself feeling like I am missing out.

    • @amieparham7657
      @amieparham7657 2 года назад +6

      I have never been happier than I have been since deleting my Instagram and Facebook accounts. I have a group chat with my mom, sister, sister in law, and a couple of our mutual friends, and that's it, besides actually texting my friends. 😝

    • @maggiehern3530
      @maggiehern3530 2 года назад +1

      @@LaLa-xf7ku yes! 🥰 notifcations are off for everything on my phone as well, just this week I decided to turn on notifications for you tube channels i love and enjoy! hence why i am commenting now something i would have never done in the past however you tube is my only social platform at the moment. Very freeing 😌 I didn't like the constant dings coming from my phone either. I'm so happy to know I'm not alone ☺️ 😍 I also didn't get the ding tho, I have sounds turned off. I just used my phone at proper times off day now lol

  • @keldamiano
    @keldamiano 2 года назад +56

    I’m not from the US, I don’t know any of these companies from your videos, still I like to watch you (for over 1h) 🥺 We have our own MLM companies in my country and once I was stuck on a zoom call like that, but thank God I didn’t fell for it ! All I was thinking during that call, was “please God help”, now I’m just thinking “why I didn’t switch my modem off?” …. Anyway, it’s always a pleasure to see a smart woman putting so much work on educate other women not to fall into traps like those! Thank you for what you do!

    • @sadrabbit53
      @sadrabbit53 2 года назад +5

      Yeah, I would've just left 😂
      If they followed up like "where'd you go?", I'd then go "my internet went out haha"

  • @raquelroberts7267
    @raquelroberts7267 2 года назад +104

    Ummm….how many ways can you say pyramid without saying pyramid? When she says the comp plan is designed to “grow wide”. If I picture her, one single person, at the top of a wider group of people….you don’t have to be a cheerleader to know that’s a pyramid, hun! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @lingodelfo5415
      @lingodelfo5415 10 месяцев назад +3

      You know what, I like your comment. Let me see how many times they do that.
      1. Then you also STAIRSTEP to the next rank.
      2. And also I laughed that the most important thing is to get those two people. Cos that's what a minimal pyramid is.
      3. "One tiny bite eats the whole pie". You mean, as in one percent at the top takes all the money?
      4. "You will never be as excited as in the beginning" correct, cos timing is key, the longer you are in, the harder it is, the more you understand it's a scam

  • @kitashlin
    @kitashlin 2 года назад +225

    Hannah, your beautifully calm demeanour and rational arguments make your videos so relaxing as well as educational. I love so many anti-MLM creators but your videos are the absolute best for helping me on days when anxiety takes hold. Thank you so much, love your content. ❤️

    • @Briar_
      @Briar_ 2 года назад +8

      So calming aren't they!

    • @honeylis7
      @honeylis7 2 года назад +10

      I agree. Sometimes I just turn on videos I've heard before because I like her voice. Is that weird??

    • @StayWildMoonChild-111
      @StayWildMoonChild-111 2 года назад +4

      Same

    • @spacepastry2744
      @spacepastry2744 2 года назад +4

      Yep. Same here.

    • @Hanulkamik
      @Hanulkamik 2 года назад +4

      Same here! Using Hannah’s videos to ease my anxiety. Thank you🙏

  • @laurataylor5884
    @laurataylor5884 2 года назад +83

    I have to second the sound logic and calm demeanor when you pull back the curtain. It is soothing, it’s fascinating, it gives me hope that the message will continue to spread and help many to turn the other way when they are approached. Thank you to those who send the content, and thank you Hannah for delivering it in such a clean way. Not to discredit other major anti MLM channels. There are so many other fantastic women in this. But this is definitely your personal brand and I’m here for it! 👏🏻

  • @Ruthy101
    @Ruthy101 2 года назад +27

    1:03:56 imagine an employer telling you it’s OK if you don’t understand the compensation plan 😬

  • @coracade7940
    @coracade7940 2 года назад +30

    I'm listening to the first woman speaking and I've never been so thankful to be a hermit/introvert.

  • @lane6216
    @lane6216 2 года назад +17

    When I make a new friend now I come right out and ask if they’re in an MLM. I’m not taking any chances.

  • @darksidelaegrinna
    @darksidelaegrinna 2 года назад +57

    Omg Zeke is such a cutie pie 😸 Your math lesson absolutely floored me, that's insane! And wow does all that fake socializing they're telling people to do sound utterly EXHAUSTING, especially for an extreme introvert like me. Not to mention incredibly scummy and deceptive.

  • @jilliansmaniotto2326
    @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 года назад +31

    monat is really legendary with their MATH THAT JUST DON’T MATH

  • @MadamCougarGaming
    @MadamCougarGaming Год назад +6

    Zeke is like "Scuse me Mom! I need to say Hi too!" hahah so cute!

  • @Brianybug
    @Brianybug 2 года назад +8

    Social media is absolutely the best thing that ever happened to MLMs. This video really made me see this for the first time.

  • @yolandaponkers1581
    @yolandaponkers1581 2 года назад +62

    Not at all related to the topic, but I am so happy for you that your channel has grown so quickly! I’ve been around since about 4,000 subscribers and am so excited to watch you grow!

    • @fireplacetunes1311
      @fireplacetunes1311 2 года назад +2

      Her content is amazing! She deserves all the success

    • @meghansullivan6812
      @meghansullivan6812 2 года назад +1

      Fr!! I haven’t watched Hannah in a bit and I was so pleasantly surprised to see she already reached 40k like damn go off

    • @lpronovost84
      @lpronovost84 2 года назад

      Too bad she doesn't read any comments

  • @elsieesoteric
    @elsieesoteric 2 года назад +10

    I snorted when she said that all her recruits were acquaintances and that none of her friends or family were into that... almost like her family and friends know what's up 🤔😂

  • @_kd_
    @_kd_ 2 года назад +21

    Loving the extra kitty appearances 😻

  • @CarboneCat
    @CarboneCat 2 года назад +9

    9:35
    As a GenXer, I saw the evolution of how MLM roped people in. The overall selling points were the same (being independent financially, time freedom, being your own boss) but the means to spread the message multiply with the decades and technology. Before the internet, it was either through in person meeting and/ or conference (Amway), product parties (Tupperware, Mary Kay), door to door (Avon) or through posting job ads (Cutco). With social media, it gives people more tools to reach people and sell the dream.
    She was saying that both her and her hubby were dissatisfied with their genuine jobs. Did either of them attempted to change employers within their respective domains? This is a detail that is conveniently left out.
    My hubby did changed jobs within his domain twice for the very same reasons the first lady stated. No MLM were involved in this process.
    OOT: Zeke’s so adorable.

  • @thrifthavenct558
    @thrifthavenct558 2 года назад +10

    Confirming your suspicions about how social media makes some people feel like “if they can do it, why can’t it?” I’ve totally felt this before when I’m particularly stressed with balancing work and home life. It’s actually why I started Poshmark and eventually found your channel! So I guess some good comes from it

  • @Suz_Salvages
    @Suz_Salvages 2 года назад +15

    This has happened to me. I was trying to make friends in my new city and I was trying bumble bff to meet people and I met a girl who I really liked, she was so smart and funny and really put herself out there and was asking me about my goals in life and invited me to an online event her mentor was hosting and it was during the depths of lockdown and I was suspicious but so desperately bored that I agreed. It turned out to be an Amway recruiting call! I was so disappointed that we didn't genuinely hit it off. I told her I wasn't interested and she probed why but wasn't overly pushy, which I appreciated. She was only 23 and married with a son and was so confident and sure that her life would be perfect and that she was building her dream life. Was a very interesting experience.

  • @elizabethmiller9632
    @elizabethmiller9632 2 года назад +11

    First girl was my upline. She asked me what I was doing for personal development anytime i told her I was struggling to recruit.

    • @andrear2184
      @andrear2184 2 года назад +4

      She was mine too! Though I was never invested enough for her to reach out/give advice before I quit 🙈

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад

      Yeah, eff her.

  • @TiggiTheWillful
    @TiggiTheWillful 2 года назад +68

    Hi Hannah. New sub here. You’re awesome! a few weeks ago, you did a video where you placed cult tactics info on the screen. It was great but I have a small suggestion.
    I’m hard of hearing and love that you have subtitles on! However, you placed your cult pointers in blue boxes at the BOTTOM of the screen. This means, those of us who have the subs on, wouldn’t be able to read the extra info without turning the subtitles off.
    Would you mind placing extra info at the top next time? There is a lovely space to the top right of you (as I look at the screen) Hope this is helpful for future videos. I did post a comment on the video this suggestion refers to, as well. Only posting on this video, to insure you see it. ❤️
    Lots of love. Keep up your hard work, you’re a badass!

    • @creatrixZBD
      @creatrixZBD 2 года назад +6

      Lots of creators forget about screen placement. You see it on thumbnails too, where the video length obscures any words because they have positioned it across the bottom. There are a lot of little things to think about when you’re a one ‘man band. Feedback like yours is really important.

    • @TiggiTheWillful
      @TiggiTheWillful 2 года назад +4

      @@creatrixZBD that’s why I make sure to bring stuff like this up. Can only help in the long run

  • @exploringwitherlin3115
    @exploringwitherlin3115 2 года назад +32

    Hannah, I love watching your videos before bed. You’re always so calm! The majority of your views by me happen when I’ve fallen asleep 😂 but I promise I go back and rewatch it all the next day when I’m awake.

    • @hubabaloop
      @hubabaloop 2 года назад +5

      Lol same

    • @Maddsgigi
      @Maddsgigi 2 года назад +2

      Same here. Every single time I fall asleep then watch again the next morning. Double, sometimes triple the views. So glad to help Hannah out cause I love her ❤️

  • @CnaScott
    @CnaScott 2 года назад +37

    It’s always a good day when Hannah uploads a new video 😍 congrats on 23k subscribers!!

  • @jericabenson857
    @jericabenson857 9 месяцев назад +3

    In this day and age the irony of technology is that we have the capability to be so connected but are more disconnected than ever. To prey on the lonely is disgusting. This should be criminal

  • @bethanyn95
    @bethanyn95 2 года назад +7

    At 40:41- I love how she used air quotes when she said “connect” because we all know it’s not genuine connection.

  • @aleey_yo
    @aleey_yo 2 года назад +18

    The noise I made at your air quotes of "genuine" was not human. I love how natural, calm, and well spoken you are! These videos are incredible and I'm so happy to go back and watch your deep dives, too.

  • @aryelc7357
    @aryelc7357 2 года назад +7

    I love LOVE that you snapped a pic of your kitty and inserted it mid-call. I found your channel recently and I absolutely love you and the content you put out. You're always so detailed and prepared, and for whatever reason when you explain things it just clicks for me. Thank you!!

  • @mothwings8795
    @mothwings8795 2 года назад +8

    I know you mentioned the Zeke cuddles during the live but I was NOT READY. Omggggg

    • @tarajh
      @tarajh 2 года назад

      I think we all collectively melted! 😻

  • @hcwally
    @hcwally 4 месяца назад +2

    It blows my mind that they alternate between "you don't need to work; this opportunity is to help you be available at home" and "stop making excuses, you need to fill your calendar you need to be constantly making content, turn everything into a sales pitch" 🤢

  • @viviantong6396
    @viviantong6396 2 года назад +20

    Definitely echo that sentiment that you and Chelsea express that their general advice for marketing on social media is sound but it just doesn’t work for an MLM. It’s almost like… they’re not actual business owners 👀
    Pls send Zeke and Cooper my love 😭❤️ (and congrats on 23k! Well deserved and happy for you!)

  • @MissWascallyWabbit
    @MissWascallyWabbit 2 года назад +6

    40:06 Yeah, I agree that the long game of befriending someone is way worse than cold messaging, I'm still sad about when that happened to me several years ago

  • @Patricia-te2we
    @Patricia-te2we 2 года назад +7

    Absolutely true that the overwhelming influence of social media has contributed so much to people feeling dissatisfied with their lives. Previously it was evident that the lives we saw in tv and movies was fiction. Now the line is blurred and it’s easy to think that the lifestyles we see on insta, fb and RUclips are all real

  • @soundbysamantha
    @soundbysamantha 2 года назад +10

    "Ignorance on fire is better than analysis paralysis" - did I just hear that correctly? Do without thinking is essentially their motto lol

  • @beepboop449
    @beepboop449 9 месяцев назад +1

    i screamed when you made a face at “she has HAIR!” lmaoooo

  • @WickedV93
    @WickedV93 2 года назад +22

    Would you ever do videos on those “tell me a name that starts with T and end with A to win $1,500” things. They need to be exposed too. I love watching your videos btw! You’re great!

    • @Momnpop98
      @Momnpop98 7 месяцев назад

      I hate those. Like name a US state that contains a "Y"😂

  • @Melavara
    @Melavara 2 года назад +11

    Shewwwwww if someone messaged me and was like “can I plug you into a Facebook group” I would run EVEN FASTER than a normal pitch

  • @VTSEA213
    @VTSEA213 2 года назад +8

    Gg😅osh when you broke down the numbers it was just like a mic drop moment . I wish anybody who has been in an MLM or is thinking of joining could just hear that portion of your video because it speaks volumes. especially when you mentioned the amount of VIP customers that monat has and if it were so easy how many they should have and they don't. that just was all the confirmation I would need if I were ever considering joining an MLM.
    and I agree it sucks that some people who have been roped into to this and may have lost money or may feel like a failure if they never found the anti MLM movement or were just never told that it wasn't their fault that they will go on thinking that they failed at this. that's why I'm so happy you're doing what you're doing and I love your content.

  • @daisietrains9981
    @daisietrains9981 2 года назад +6

    Happy people don’t spend time on zoom calls to tell people how happy they are

  • @janellp
    @janellp 2 года назад +8

    I just have to say this because I’ve never seen it brought up when discussing the car programs. When you actually have a hun that’s honest about the program, and they say “if you lose the car bonus, just return the car!”, that’s such bad advice! I’ve been in the finance field for decades, and any time you have a voluntary surrender of a vehicle, whether it was a lease or purchase, it will DESTROY your credit! Just had to get that off my chest.

    • @joyfuljaj
      @joyfuljaj 2 года назад

      I've never heard that said. wow, I can't believe they think it's that simple.

    • @nikit0r
      @nikit0r 2 года назад

      That’s a good point! I didn’t know they said that. And most don’t even accept you just “returning” the car willy-nilly. The finance companies consider that a “settlement”, which hits your credit in a specific way.
      I guess you can’t expect anything better from people who tell you to “put it on a family member’s credit card” haha 😅

  • @GG-or6eq
    @GG-or6eq 9 месяцев назад +1

    What in a... I wonder who is paying for all these mimosa mondays and taco tuesdays. Also these ladys do not account for how many people that they recruit will never reach corresponding level for them to level up. You can recruit hundreds of people a month but if none of them go up in ranks, your rank does not move up as well.

  • @DG_212
    @DG_212 2 года назад +28

    This is my third post but I can’t help it - this second woman, after I was already fully disgusted, then co-opts an AA saying? “It works if you work it” - no, ma’am. No. Do NOT be even more disrespectful than you already are. Does she not understand how unbelievably disgraceful it is to apply a saying associated with people overcoming an addiction to alcohol to her exploitative POS garbage “opportunity”? Utterly repellent.

    • @ryleighsweet2375
      @ryleighsweet2375 2 года назад +3

      I hear huns say that all the time and it always irks me 🙄

    • @juliekennedy9891
      @juliekennedy9891 2 года назад +5

      I will give her this-I have heard that used in so many contexts and even minored in Linguistics ( so I am adept at language/communication). And I HAD no clue that this was an AA aphorism. She probably didn’t either.

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад

      These huns use recovery terms a LOT. Yeah, equate your pyramid scheme to people trying to rebuild their truly messed up lives.

    • @vitisxvinifera
      @vitisxvinifera 8 месяцев назад

      I remember one of the former LuLaRoe consultants in the docuseries LuLaRich who said that she was told the same thing. “It works if you work it.” Oh, come on…

  • @sierrasnode
    @sierrasnode 2 года назад +21

    An hour long video from Hannah?! Day made 😄🎉

  • @luizaviktualia
    @luizaviktualia 2 года назад +11

    2 new market partners a month means 24 per year
    If all current US market partners in Monat recruit 2 new people a month, that's
    Year 1: 320 000 x 24 = 7 680 000
    Year 2: 7 680 000 x 24 = 184 320 000
    Year 3: 4,4 Billion people
    Year 4: 106 Billion people
    Totally doable, totally not a pyramid scheme.

    • @HannahAlonzo
      @HannahAlonzo  2 года назад +3

      YUP! 👏🏼 Gotta love that exponential math!

  • @Sally0779
    @Sally0779 9 месяцев назад +1

    I just found your channel several weeks ago. Honestly I sometimes watch your channel just for the kitty sightings. I have cats too, love them!! Great job on these videos. Trying to binge all videos. ❤

  • @this_is_chycanthropy
    @this_is_chycanthropy 2 года назад +9

    Hannah, I love love LOVE this new thing you're doing where you insert pictures of Zeke being a cuddle monster. ❤️ Please make this a regular feature.

  • @EvosAndMakeup
    @EvosAndMakeup 4 месяца назад +1

    “Ignorance on fire…” sure is. Sure is ignorance on fire, burning people’s lives away in these pathetic cults.

  • @AmandaBBC
    @AmandaBBC 2 года назад +3

    i'm absolutely LOVING how for the past few videos you've started adding pictures of your cats when they come up to hang with you!!!! i'd always keep looking at the edge of the videos trying to catch a glimpse of them before hahahaha they're too adorable!!! and zeke's expression looking up at you before falling asleep at the end of this video just ended me your babies are too sweet

  • @WaddlyP
    @WaddlyP 2 года назад +4

    Hannah, I just want to say how beautiful you are inside and out. When someone has such a beautiful soul, their outer beauty shines as well. That is what my husband tells me all the time. :-D
    I always enjoy watching you and Zeke when he comes on. I love your transparency and your demeanor. You have such a calmness about you when you speak. I am so thankful for the anti-mlm community. I have learned so much more since coming out of the mlm I was in, 2 years ago. It's nice to hear your passion and where your heart is at. Thank you for all that you do for us and others out there.

  • @Stacie2440
    @Stacie2440 2 года назад +5

    This is crazy I stumbled on your video!! I am that person who thought she was content and happy until I let social media influence me. Currently self analyzing my worth and where I’m at all the while trying to convince myself that my choice is actually ok. Great video, perfect timing thank you!

    • @MrsMuffin11
      @MrsMuffin11 2 года назад

      aww I hope Hannah sees this comment!

  • @jamlisa4696
    @jamlisa4696 2 года назад +4

    I’m at home recovering from surgery and I’ve binge watched your videos the last 2 days. It’s been so much fun watching your follower count go up by 6K in the last 2 days🥳
    Well done young lady. You are articulate, respectful and beautiful inside and out. How proud your parents must be! What a wonderful teacher you would have been.
    (And might still be, if you were to return to the profession)
    All the very best with your channel. Blessings💗

  • @FateWorseThanDeath
    @FateWorseThanDeath 2 года назад +23

    Living for Zeke's close up moment 😻😻

  • @karenlynne8155
    @karenlynne8155 2 года назад +2

    You make so many good points honestly I couldn't of said it better myself. Whenever I meet an mlm hun bot I ALWAYS know because of how they are glued to asking me about me and how complimentary they are and you can feel the predator vibes. It's not authentic. It's so gross. I watch these people pick their prey in public!

  • @lmsmith015
    @lmsmith015 2 года назад +12

    Every event she lists at 1:15 sounds nice IF I weren't going to get pressured into buying an overpriced product or "starting my own business."

  • @selkieskins
    @selkieskins 11 месяцев назад +1

    I know this video is a year old so it's weird to comment, but the kitty cuddle sesh in it was so cute it made my eyes water. Everybody who reads this needs to give their pet a lingering loving look and a big ol' cuddle

  • @BusyBeadBoutique
    @BusyBeadBoutique 2 года назад +5

    Completely agree in the thought that social media has greatly impacted & increased the thought processes of 'I don't have enough - my life isn't all that great - I haven't reached my goals/dreams -etc'. As scripture reminds us- in the 'later days' people will become 'lovers of self' -- social media has really sped that along in my opinion.
    Have a blessed day!

  • @vaneruizm
    @vaneruizm 5 месяцев назад +1

    "If you're not embarrassed by your first version, then probably you didn't start soon enough"
    Can ANYONE explain how those two things correlate????

  • @meytish
    @meytish 2 года назад +6

    Congratulations on 23K subscribers!! Love your videos!!

  • @reanndacli3421
    @reanndacli3421 2 года назад +5

    Haven’t even watched any of your videos for longer than 10 mins yet but you’re anti-MLM which means an automatic subscribe and like every video I see posted hah, let’s go algorithm! Excited to explore your channel :)

    • @Momnpop98
      @Momnpop98 7 месяцев назад

      That actually hurts the algorithm more. It tells the algorithm that the video was not interesting and will not recommend the channel as much, if ever. Better to let the video play at 2x speed.

    • @reanndacli3421
      @reanndacli3421 7 месяцев назад

      @@Momnpop98 by commenting on it, liking it, finishing it, and subscribing? 😅

    • @Momnpop98
      @Momnpop98 7 месяцев назад

      @@reanndacli3421 yes. At least from what I've heard from some other tubers during their videos.

  • @debramccord7707
    @debramccord7707 2 года назад +25

    I feel like this call is gonna be a symphony of cliches. The talking points never change.

    • @luvzdogz
      @luvzdogz 2 года назад +2

      And a lot of "right?" Right? Right?

  • @st3218
    @st3218 8 месяцев назад +1

    1:14:33 "KISS it", "Keep It Simple, Stupid", not keep it stupid simple... I hate that saying, my awful American History teacher in HS loved that phrase, but it sounded so unnatural to hear her say it wrong!

  • @Mahoragax114
    @Mahoragax114 2 года назад +9

    FOMO is fear of missing out, and that’s what mlms lead on. Envy. (Your friend’s buying and getting free items when having a party, you should too! ) (we’re all going on a girls trip during a stressful pandemic, look how happy you can be too!)

    • @kenn4eva
      @kenn4eva 2 года назад

      FOMO is the path to the MLM. FOMO leads to Envy. Envy leads to coveting. Coveting leads to DMing Huns.

  • @kelseyholtz2213
    @kelseyholtz2213 2 года назад +1

    Hannah!!! That spiel about the grass being greener was AMAZING! You have such a way with words that resonates so well. Thank you so much for sharing your brain and heart!

  • @themediocrehomestead
    @themediocrehomestead 2 года назад +10

    Hannah- When you say to someone I don’t support MLM’s and they ask why, what would you say back? Like a short answer that gets your point across without explaining everything wrong with them 😂

    • @HannahAlonzo
      @HannahAlonzo  2 года назад +18

      Ugh wow such a good question 🤣 I would say something along the lines of “I’m familiar with how to find/read the income disclosure statements and I haven’t found an MLM that compensates it’s reps appropriately for the amount of work they do”
      Or something similar regarding how most people in MLMs are paid basically nothing 🤣

  • @erinlee920
    @erinlee920 2 года назад +1

    The warmth and love that radiates from you when your little boy snuggles you like that is beautiful 😍💕

  • @DoingStuffWithDiana
    @DoingStuffWithDiana 2 года назад +7

    I watched this after a lil 🍃 💨 and Hannah’s deep dive (around @12:00) about social media influence effects on our psychology made me like nah she a homie lol
    Edit: also imagine having a BROKEN UP CAR that just splashed you in the face cause of the broken sunroof back when you were turning into your block and when you get out you’re all wet and think, “ I’m gonna get into Monat.” LMAO. 🤣 that imagery popped into my head and it cracked me up.

  • @VanessaChats
    @VanessaChats Год назад +1

    I am glad I decided to watch this one - saw the photos you sneaked in whilst she was talking. The photos were better than listening to this lady's dribble.

  • @YourNightmares333
    @YourNightmares333 2 года назад +6

    I've been asked to do so many different types of pyramid schemes it's ridiculous. This morning I woke up to a woman trying to get me in on one of her MLM fitness scams it just gets so old.🙄I'm never going to do a pyramid scheme. People try to deny that they are part of a pyramid scheme so they call them MLMs But they're really just pyramid schemes and they should be illegal in my opinion

  • @33corsaire
    @33corsaire 5 месяцев назад +1

    Oh my god I can’t with the “my business”… honey this ain’t YOUR business

  • @CHloE748
    @CHloE748 2 года назад +9

    It’s like someone selling a class that’s how to make $10 a month lmao

  • @katrinaosorio2134
    @katrinaosorio2134 2 года назад +1

    Omg I love the cat nose bopping the camera 😍😍 here for it

  • @tcort
    @tcort 2 года назад +7

    Love Hannah’s Hot Takes! Telling it like it is.

  • @Kreepie11
    @Kreepie11 Год назад +1

    Hahaha 1:12:51 is just my life experience with anyone asking me to go out... not that it ended in a pitch, just that it wasn't fun lmao

  • @thekat4493
    @thekat4493 2 года назад +9

    Just discovered your channel today and have been binge watching. Interesting content. And adorable kitty!!! Not sure if this was an actual MLM, but WAY back in the 90's, I felt that "Pre-paid Legal" was a pyramid scheme. It was all about joining to get others to join. But now, when I look them up, it seems like it's a legit service??? Not sure.

    • @PaigeThePuppet
      @PaigeThePuppet 2 года назад +3

      We did an interview with a real lawyer on my channel who had several good reasons not to join the pre-paid legal type services - pretty sure it is mlm, but haven’t fully checked it out…yet…

    • @Maddsgigi
      @Maddsgigi 2 года назад +1

      Yes, they def adopted the pyramid, MLM, marketing style. They were bought out in 2011 & are now known as ID Shield & Legal Shield.

  • @freelancingwithsilvia
    @freelancingwithsilvia 15 дней назад +1

    watching on a monday!

  • @martylovellmusic.
    @martylovellmusic. 2 года назад +10

    This feels like the end of MONAT and i'm here FOR IT.

  • @draconicfeline6177
    @draconicfeline6177 2 года назад +1

    i hate how they go "ha ha math hard" it's like they are weaponizing incompetence to seem relatable, you need to learn the numbers if you want to really run a business.

  • @alfalfa2155
    @alfalfa2155 2 года назад +5

    It’s crazy how much crossover there is between the content of “training” calls and opportunity calls. The speakers always spend so much time hyping up the company, which you’d THINK they wouldn’t have to do in a call with people who are already in it, and therefore presumably wouldn’t need to be constantly told how great it is because they’re living it! Right?
    It really brings home how much the real work of building and maintaining a “team” is continuously selling the opportunity even to people you’ve ALREADY recruited, to keep their belief in the dream alive as long as possible before they get discouraged by the reality of what they’re doing, which is spamming on Facebook and sending hey girl messages for next to no pay. I mean, imagine any other company that has to spend THIS much time and energy having its own employees keep convincing other employees how amazing their job is, to the point that it’s a standard part of every single business meeting. You are basically ALWAYS selling the dream, forever, because if you let up for even a second, your struggling downline might realize they’ve signed on to a bait and switch.

    • @kikiTHEalien
      @kikiTHEalien 2 года назад

      I work for US company in Europe and see the same corporate culture presented in these calls, only the people who speak during our work calls keep an air of professionalism. It is all there- the mandatory "start from the bottom" story, recruitment bonuses, hyping up the company for things that are not true, constant attempts to take over one's spare time, etc.

  • @maryamzaky3672
    @maryamzaky3672 2 года назад +1

    I dontcare alot about MLM but you absolutely have a beautiful voice and good story teller and I love listening to u
    I think you can cover a wide variety of topics besides MLM
    Keep the great work

  • @jpt610
    @jpt610 2 года назад +5

    Looking at the population numbers they can only "count" with about 202M men & women in the U.S. (18-65). Subtracting the VIPs and MPs they already have about 199M left. Suppose they had this list of 199M and it was evenly divided among their current MPs, each MP gets to contact about 613 people. This means they would reach all the eligible U.S. population in 2 - 3 months. And then what 🤷‍♀ Are they going to sit outside colleges & universities and pitch to freshmen every fall and spring semester?

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 2 года назад

      They've already started on students.