Protein Myths Busted: DO THIS, Gain Muscle & Live Longer | Dr. Gabrielle Lyon & Dr. Steven Gundry

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • In this episode, we’re challenging the conventional view of obesity as America's primary health issue. My guest joins us to argue that the real problem isn't that we’re overfat - but undermuscled.
    And that society's obsession with losing fat, instead of gaining muscle, is one of the reasons so many of us struggle with achieving weight loss and optimal health.
    She’s Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, a board-certified, fellowship-trained physician, and author of the new book, Forever Strong: A New, Science-Based Strategy for Aging Well.
    We explore this perspective further and explain why the benefits of having muscle go WAY beyond physical strength and appearance.
    Then, we’ll have a friendly debate about how much protein you should REALLY be getting and the RIGHT way to exercise for your health.
    On this episode you’ll learn:
    00:00 - Why you should stop focusing on losing FAT (and start focusing on gaining THIS instead
    3:59 - The surprising truth about when diseases actually kick in - it's much earlier than you might expect!
    11:02 - If Dr. Lyon believes increasing protein intake equals gaining more muscle (and what it means for your diet)
    13:30 - The real story behind daily protein requirements, why Dr. Lyon says the recommended amount falls short, and how it plays a crucial role in aging gracefully
    17:30 - How FASTING can = MORE muscle
    19:16 - One of the WORST diets for your body (and what to do instead)
    25:30 - The fascinating possibility of producing your OWN essential amino acids (and how it could be beneficial)
    26:49 - Valuable tips on how to slow down aging
    27:19 - The critical distinctions between plant and animal protein (and why your choice matters)
    Dr. Gundry is the author of The Plant Paradox - A New York Times Bestselling book. Please subscribe to The Dr. Gundry Podcast to learn more about Polyphenols, Leaky Gut, Lectins, and other essential information.
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  • @jonathanmagic5633
    @jonathanmagic5633 4 месяца назад +6

    She's a rare find, someone who actually knows what she's talking about rather than simply reading up on the studies of others as most 'experts' on utube do.

  • @Masterr59
    @Masterr59 5 месяцев назад +84

    My respect for Dr. Gundry just went way up for letting Dr. Gabrielle talk, and not interrupt her, while she talked highly of animal proteins, even though he probably disagrees with some of what she is saying. These are the scientific conversations we need more on, respecting fellow researchers. I listen to a lot of Dr. Gundry's videos and am a big believer in plants needing to be in our diet, but am also a defender of (quality) meat for our protein. Ground beef is a staple in my recovery, and I feel great with it, along with my salads.

    • @kenhnsy
      @kenhnsy 5 месяцев назад +1

      She does the same courtesy for skinny, weak, masochistic sicklings on her show. No harm in letting people speak.

    • @emh8861
      @emh8861 5 месяцев назад +7

      Great to listen to all sides and see what’s best for your own body . BeYourOwnStudy

    • @Isaac5123
      @Isaac5123 5 месяцев назад +3

      He is getting paid to stay quiet. He changes with the wind

    • @Isaac5123
      @Isaac5123 5 месяцев назад +3

      He disagrees with most that she says. She promotes protein where he does not.

    • @aliciastanley5582
      @aliciastanley5582 5 месяцев назад

      I agree with you.

  • @Hippy2021
    @Hippy2021 4 месяца назад +4

    There's no one method fits all to everyone. That's why human have unique DNA. I tried everything, from keto to carnivore. None work for me. I tried by curiosity to find the best for my health but I am healthy, no prescriptions, no vaccines of any kind, exercise religiously and fasting daily. Like everyone we constantly research and do the best we can. After 3 weeks carnivore, my body developed weird reactions, not seriously but kinda scary. Stopped carnivore, everything returned back to normal less than 48 hours. Same with Keto, after 2 weeks, gave up and back to Mediterranean diet as always before. Am good now. 70 years old, blood glucose stable at 85 fasting, 120 or less after 2 hours eating. Blood pressure daily measure around 117/76/65. I truly believe in fasting, exercise and eating a proper diet are the most important in our daily life. Take care and keep up .

  • @chewie94116
    @chewie94116 5 месяцев назад +30

    This is one of the best conversations/presentations I have seen on your channel. Like a meeting of the brains, sharing ideas and theories. Some of your guests seem less intellectually grounded in science /research and more interested in selling a product. Love it. Very useful and helpful.

  • @AlmaPopovski
    @AlmaPopovski 5 месяцев назад +28

    I’m 65 years old, on no medications, and have been on the carnivore diet for the last 6 months. Cellulite gone, energy excellent skin improved, gout in big toe gone, arthritis only 10% of what it used to be. No sugar, no bread, rice no fruit, no vegetables….only animal products mainly meat. I don’t even crave any of the other the other stuff. I feel great doing what I’m doing.

    • @michaelkisil4052
      @michaelkisil4052 5 месяцев назад +4

      Me too, 3 year!

    • @HegelsOwl
      @HegelsOwl 5 месяцев назад +2

      Please: continue about how important your life is at the center of the universe. We've never heard this sort of thing before.

    • @AlmaPopovski
      @AlmaPopovski 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@HegelsOwl hey owly my life is extremely important to me and at the very centre of my universe …there, you happy now 😘

    • @Hippy2021
      @Hippy2021 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@AlmaPopovskithere's no one method fits all to everyone. That's why human have unique DNA. I tried everything, from keto to carnivore. None work for me. I tried by curiosity to find the best for my health but I am healthy, no prescriptions, no vaccines of any kind, exercise religiously and fasting daily. Like everyone we constantly research and do the best we can. After 3 weeks carnivore, my body developed weird reactions, not seriously but kinda scary. Stopped carnivore, everything returned back to normal less than 48 hours. Same with Keto, after 2 weeks, gave up and back to Mediterranean diet as always before. Am good now. 70 years old, blood glucose stable at 85 fasting, 120 or less after 2 hours eating. Blood pressure daily measure around 117/76/65. I truly believe in fasting and exercise are the most important in our daily life. Take care and keep up .

    • @kutrabilada8865
      @kutrabilada8865 Месяц назад

      I am 73 and every time I try to eat even a whole chicken breast I feel bloated and it feels like it takes a long time to digest. Do you have any such problem?

  • @cocoazen
    @cocoazen 5 месяцев назад +14

    Dr. Gundry, I hope you read this comment. My appreciation for you as a person was bolstered watching some of your interview with Dr. Mike. He is like a lawyer in his tactics, and has so many contentions he didnt let you speak, and i felt that while he borders on disrespect, you calmly and amicably support hypotheses, correlations and conclusions without getting your feathers ruffled. He is so by the books that he leaves no room for hypotheses of his own. Your approach of both observing outcomes and asking questions where there may not be a study yet is forward thinking, and we need both Dr. Gs and Dr. Mikes in this world. Only, Dr. Mike could stand to step back and recognize the value in looking beyond peer reviewed published papers and asking far reaching questions of the existing data.

    • @edcreedon1957
      @edcreedon1957 5 месяцев назад +5

      I agree with your observations. It was evident that Dr. Mike was closed-minded, whereas Dr. Gundry remained humble and focused.

    • @-JD56
      @-JD56 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah D Gundry used to be A researcher, and loves research, he's always intrigued, where as Mike seems to go bi what the establishment wants

    • @wheelofcheese100
      @wheelofcheese100 4 месяца назад

      This. I didn’t really care for dr Mike

  • @marionalbergo1146
    @marionalbergo1146 3 месяца назад +2

    Dr Lyon is a special person and obviously a great doctor. She is self assured , sees the point clearly and speaks clearly and concise. I’ll probably order her book and I’ll surely start to follow her utubes

  • @donnacoudes6301
    @donnacoudes6301 5 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you Dr Gundry for allowing Dr Lyon to share her wealth of knowledge. I have been following her for years and am reading her book now.

  • @scottschille4839
    @scottschille4839 6 месяцев назад +9

    There wasn't any clash here! I'm so glad you had her on your show Dr. Gundry!

  • @lkpnda287
    @lkpnda287 6 месяцев назад +40

    I love Dr Lyons! She is awesome and her podcasts has been so helpful and I’m a former nutritional nurse that also was a personal trainer while in the Air Force, but I keep learning more and more listening to her!

  • @rocofit
    @rocofit 5 месяцев назад +9

    Gabrielle Lyon you are so strong on many levels. Brilliant interview.

  • @robinferrary3247
    @robinferrary3247 4 месяца назад +3

    I loved this conversation between Drs Gundry and Lyon - They are both right and appreciated that Dr Lyon suggested combining their efforts - Their work is so very fluid - it will continue to evolve, but it is so much better than conventional medicine. I lost my mother to Dementia/Alzheimers and wish this information was available years ago.

  • @vimala_9
    @vimala_9 5 месяцев назад +7

    I really appreciate your open-mindedness, Dr. Gundry!

  • @vanessac1965
    @vanessac1965 5 месяцев назад +7

    I got both of my parents following your advice! They're stubborn, but they feel better on more protein and fewer lectins. Thank you for helping my family ❤

  • @olwill1
    @olwill1 5 месяцев назад +5

    Dr. Atkins NEVER even remotely said anything like, "The more protein you eat, the more muscles you will grow", and I never met anyone who thought that. People used to call the Atkins diet "high protein" but after reading his book, I decided that it was simply a carb-restricted diet. All Atkins said was, essentially, you could eat all the fat and protein you wanted and still lose weight. 10:50, or so.

  • @tonythagard
    @tonythagard 6 месяцев назад +17

    ready for part 2 because historically he's chosen more plant based protein and Dr G is all-meat protein advocate. This conversation was cut off abruptly no doubt.

    • @emh8861
      @emh8861 5 месяцев назад +2

      He looks great. She has used Ozempic and Testosterone herself.

  • @bricklawson9745
    @bricklawson9745 5 месяцев назад +9

    What a great debate / interview!Very informative and well done. Respect to you both.

  • @Dmwntkp99
    @Dmwntkp99 5 месяцев назад +17

    Thank you, I knew there was a difference between animal and plant protein, so in theory the amount of plants you have to eat to equal meat would result in oxalate overdose.

    • @emh8861
      @emh8861 5 месяцев назад +1

      And too many carbs !

    • @JCKeus-cx1wm
      @JCKeus-cx1wm 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@emh8861
      Plants are (very) low carb.
      Carbs are mostly delivered by bread, rice, potatoes.

    • @jellybeanvinkler4878
      @jellybeanvinkler4878 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@DeLeahMariecooking won't affect the oxalates much.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 4 месяца назад

      ​@@JCKeus-cx1wm fruits are plants...

    • @JCKeus-cx1wm
      @JCKeus-cx1wm 4 месяца назад

      @@szymonbaranowski8184
      And most of the fruits are low carb too, lower than bread, rice, pasta, pizza, patatoes.

  • @zorinaganpaul1598
    @zorinaganpaul1598 5 месяцев назад +10

    Dr. Lyons has outdone herself in this discussion. So impressive, so articulate, so knowledgeable! Keep spreading the word doctor ❤

  • @larrysbrain1627
    @larrysbrain1627 6 месяцев назад +4

    She makes sense to me, because our closest relatives are Chimpanzees and are primarily meat eaters... And humans evolved eating what they could find; 10lbs of nuts isn't as good as 2lbs of fresh meat.

  • @user-vm3fk6io5h
    @user-vm3fk6io5h 6 месяцев назад +12

    I have minimal muscle at 60 yrs plus. On keto but lost too much weight. I need to get this guests book !

    • @samlopez1013
      @samlopez1013 6 месяцев назад +1

      Muscle, B-vitmins increase and Amino acids like citrullie, + L-Arginine Glutamine, and BCAA's to go with Risistance Training youll grow, look and feel stronger

    • @enricodonaruma3344
      @enricodonaruma3344 5 месяцев назад +2

      You can stay on ketosis with substantial protein consumption. 1gram of bioavailable protein per pound of body weight

    • @user-vm3fk6io5h
      @user-vm3fk6io5h 5 месяцев назад

      @@enricodonaruma3344 Thanks kindly. Yes, I need to increase protein and am working on it !

    • @M3W3
      @M3W3 5 месяцев назад +3

      Eating protein alone not enough, must send the right signal to the body through strength training. Without strength training, the body won’t get the signal to increase muscle mass.

  • @nikkr3584
    @nikkr3584 5 месяцев назад +3

    That's why our grandparents lived till their 80s and 90s. They were all day moving , contractring their muslces. Our generations are all rhe time sitting.

  • @ameliarodriguezvisconti3674
    @ameliarodriguezvisconti3674 5 месяцев назад +2

    Respect for the discussion of polar views. I am disappointed though that what was not addressed in digestion topic, is the decrease in hydrochloric acid in aging and in great part responsible for undigested proteins, incomplete disgestion and constipation.

  • @anthonyc362
    @anthonyc362 6 месяцев назад +9

    Dr Gundry needs to deeply explain why he went dark about the heart inflammation he saw in long time patients after the you know what. He raised the alarm then nothing. Did they all of a sudden heal? What happened ?

    • @alexanderohanlon8825
      @alexanderohanlon8825 5 месяцев назад +3

      Lol he wanted to keep his income.

    • @anthonyc362
      @anthonyc362 5 месяцев назад

      @@DeLeahMarie I have no respect for him because of this.

    • @TheIndianscout
      @TheIndianscout 5 месяцев назад

      No respect for who?Mercola??

    • @jonathanmagic5633
      @jonathanmagic5633 4 месяца назад

      Mainstream medicine has a lot to answer for. @@anthonyc362

  • @myjesus1st
    @myjesus1st 4 месяца назад +1

    I’ve been on the tripeptide for almost a year and I’ve lost 45 pounds. And I just did my bone density which I haven’t done it since 2015. I don’t like to do any type of x-ray mammography whatever very much because it’s still radiation, sidenote.but my bone density is exactly the same as it was in 2015 that was my last bone density test so the Mounjaro/tripeptide has done nothing but good! I’m so grateful it was such a game changer when my body changed. My waist line went up starting in my mid 60s now I kept my figure up into 64….27 inch waist line. And yes I’ve had to work my whole adult life at keeping my figure and I did, but when it just started getting bigger, no matter what I did… Finally, even though I was not type to diabetic, but you don’t go from 27 inches on your waist line to 40 inches and not have insulin resistance I mean come on. So I have done really well with this.

  • @Bomber389
    @Bomber389 6 месяцев назад +9

    What I like about Dr. Gundry’s work is that muscle focused people are getting closer to applying some of the mechanics he uses and Dr. Gundry’s theory is a much more complete theory of metabolic disfunction. We have made such significant progress in observing and understanding biology the past few years, I think we really have an interesting future full of more interesting things to discover and understand.

  • @billkeegan3566
    @billkeegan3566 4 месяца назад +2

    Gabrielle is a knowledgeable in health studies

  • @mariaroqueta3135
    @mariaroqueta3135 6 месяцев назад +21

    Great topic and wonderfully insightful info from both doctors. Yes Dr Gundry is my fav.💯
    I would love to see a part 2 of this episode including and expressing what specific protocols should be taken to maintain skeletal muscle for those geriatric patients who can not consume enough protein. Due to gut issues and low appetite.
    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @YasminA-jm9zs
    @YasminA-jm9zs 5 месяцев назад +3

    There is more things you both agree on than I previously thought. Great conversation!

  • @belindamolina6354
    @belindamolina6354 5 месяцев назад +4

    Dr. Lyon is amazing!! Thanks for sharing her knowledge!

  • @samlopez1013
    @samlopez1013 6 месяцев назад +3

    Dr. Michale Colgan of the Colgan Institute, said our gut can only absorb 20-25% of food eaten, that is due to lack of chewing properly lack of saliva and enzymes to brake down nutrients, in addition we need more B-6 vitamin to provide digestión of Meat protein, so many more variables

  • @l.sophia2803
    @l.sophia2803 5 месяцев назад +4

    Aha moment, severe brain fog after chasing a vegetarian Mediterranean diet Gundry recommends. Pursuing 100g of quality protein daily and I had moments of true clarity and real joy. Gundry lies to you. His advice is wrong in the extreme and its cruel that people like myself believed him for so many years.

    • @l.sophia2803
      @l.sophia2803 3 месяца назад

      @blobmonster9494 He used to. Now, (and perhaps you consider this in the definition of eating meat) he speaks of how he eats a nice steak because hes from Wisconsin and loves his beef... every two months. He splits it with his wife. You need to see his more recent stuff to understand he has progressed his 'advice'. He did a huge marketing campaign after the mTOR study came out.. and he misrepresented it egregiously. Im assuming he sold some of his corporate rights that he now curtails the old message toward. Good luck with that..

  • @ToniDJohns
    @ToniDJohns 6 месяцев назад +1

    Really good info update. Thanks !!

  • @michellesiedler2781
    @michellesiedler2781 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is such an amazing video!
    Thank you both for the extraordinary work and for getting information out there in such an easy understandable way to the comum people like me.

  • @joerockhead7246
    @joerockhead7246 5 месяцев назад +3

    loved this. thanks for posting.

  • @DT-wh4qr
    @DT-wh4qr 6 месяцев назад +9

    This conversation needed to not end ao abruptly. Both are great physicians. Would have been helpful to talk about protein powders out there that are all the rage. Could have been a better in depth interview.

    • @misse2013
      @misse2013 6 месяцев назад

      Dr Lyon has a RUclips channel and a podcast too. Maybe she has more info there

    • @phil-spinelli
      @phil-spinelli 5 месяцев назад

      protein powder can useful to add to your meal, and some powders , especially whey isolate are very well absorbed. little is lost in the digestion process

    • @lisafiel8457
      @lisafiel8457 4 месяца назад

      Pea protein is highly estrogenic avoid

  • @cayennepeppa707
    @cayennepeppa707 5 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely wonderful conversation. Loved it from beginning to end.

  • @Lightseeker333
    @Lightseeker333 5 месяцев назад +7

    Dr. Lyon nailed this interview! She is fantastic! She is very gracious to Dr. Gundry in this interview.

  • @russellseah2347
    @russellseah2347 5 месяцев назад +5

    Dr Valter Longo prescribes low protein consumption for longevity. Less stimulation of MTOR. So confusing and conflicting.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 4 месяца назад

      idiotic,
      without muscle you die early, all organs borrow material for re building at night from muscles
      you could argue it's possible if you are able to keep decent amount of lean mass until old age but you won't do it without weight lifting stimuli and adding enough protein to build it

  • @saatchi67
    @saatchi67 5 месяцев назад +4

    Dear doctor, it was very enlightening, I am grateful to you for explaining it in a way we can understand.

  • @krissyshull4893
    @krissyshull4893 4 месяца назад +1

    This was a discussion I'd been wanting to hear!

  • @tupscolls776
    @tupscolls776 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wow absolutely informative! Thanks!

  • @Thaythichgiachanh262
    @Thaythichgiachanh262 6 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you very much for your valuable information ♥👍👍

  • @myflesh10
    @myflesh10 6 месяцев назад +6

    as far as muscle mass connected with longevity yes but there is a point of diminishing returns. And yeah many of her references to vegan protein were high lectin low quality proteins

  • @yezkex
    @yezkex 5 месяцев назад +4

    Dr Gundry please do a app where we can quickly look up which foods are good not and why. thanks.

  • @cates_keto
    @cates_keto 5 месяцев назад +3

    Fantastic video!!! ❤

  • @jilll4649
    @jilll4649 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think B12 and iron absorption needs consideration. Which beef is best and supplements are necessary is excluded from diet. Dr. Gundry has some valid points and she does too.

  • @kimnenninger7226
    @kimnenninger7226 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. So much to learn and to see.
    The overlap of good nutrition from a plant based and an animal based diet as pointed out by these two great doctors really helps the viewers understand what is important in your diet.
    I was doing almost a carnivore diet but I just didn't have enough energy to do my aerobic exercise. Lifting weights on a carnivore diet was really great but I couldn't run. Knowing what is important for protein helps me to get the rest of my macros in line. I thought peanut butter was a suitable protein but I was wrong.

  • @erwinrogers9470
    @erwinrogers9470 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great interview👍

  • @jlangeles23
    @jlangeles23 6 месяцев назад +13

    What, that's all? 🤔 Such a great conversation! We might see another 2nd, 3rd, and probably a 4th part...

  • @operasinger2126
    @operasinger2126 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you!

  • @dawnr8811
    @dawnr8811 5 месяцев назад +2

    Love Dr Lyon 🎉❤🤗🙌

  • @joesteinbrecher3647
    @joesteinbrecher3647 6 месяцев назад +3

    What is your opinion of plant based protein powders to help get daily or help with daily intake of protein.

  • @erwinrogers9470
    @erwinrogers9470 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love it🔥👏

  • @Raxados
    @Raxados 6 месяцев назад +4

    older adults experiencing a natural decline in levels of stomach acid.

    • @emh8861
      @emh8861 5 месяцев назад

      Great point !

  • @stevemitchell7981
    @stevemitchell7981 5 месяцев назад +1

    what a great video.

  • @jilltatehiggins
    @jilltatehiggins 6 месяцев назад +6

    I quit carbs and sugar and lost too much weight. I’ve worked with a dietician (I’m 67) and it took a year to gain the 9lbs I lost over a 7 month period. No time restriction. I’m afraid if I do that I’ll lose weight.

    • @user-vm3fk6io5h
      @user-vm3fk6io5h 6 месяцев назад +3

      I commented earlier on my 10lb weight loss at age 63. Very little muscle. I’m struggling to gain it back and had to do as they say “Cheato”. Maybe I need to up my protein and do resistance exercises to keep muscle. And like you see a dietitian?

    • @jilltatehiggins
      @jilltatehiggins 6 месяцев назад +3

      I started pilates 5 times a week in July and I’m staying stable weight wise and seeing muscles…

    • @willcook403
      @willcook403 6 месяцев назад

      @@user-vm3fk6io5h100% that’s the name of the game ! Protein supports growth and resistance maintains muscle

    • @PeterNorthCumshotLegend
      @PeterNorthCumshotLegend 5 месяцев назад

      ​you are hilarious bless you @@user-vm3fk6io5h

  • @missdoom1
    @missdoom1 5 месяцев назад +2

    I think individuality should be discussed here too. Otherwise I really wonder how I bulit muscle myeself. I am 51 and I eat vegetarian and probably do not meet those proteinmacros. Also, Dr. Gundry must have changed his mind rather quickly on this subject? He said in one episode that we ate too much protein in general? Also, all those doctors and other health and wellnesspeople seem to think that just because the animal protein is better for muscebuilding, many of the vegetarians and the vegans will start to eat meat again. That's not going to happen in my case, I'd rather work harder on not loosing tissue. Ethical reasons for not eating meat must be considered, and help people by telling them how they can do their best instead of dissing plantprotein! Most people I know here in Norway at least, are vegans for the animals! So doctors should educate themselves to be able to give advice on that too!

    • @l.sophia2803
      @l.sophia2803 5 месяцев назад

      Gundry goes with the view count. He changes his tune so often that people who built there podcasts on his work gave up because he makes no sense. He is a shill like the rest of his corrupt ilk.

    • @jellybeanvinkler4878
      @jellybeanvinkler4878 5 месяцев назад +1

      And vegans must educate themselves that animals still die for plant production. Lots of them. Lots and lots.😢

  • @waltmueller8850
    @waltmueller8850 6 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent! Many thanks to you, both. Very important information.

  • @WoodyRe
    @WoodyRe 2 месяца назад

    I am not really follow with her opinion about vegetable protein, what she take examples of vegetable food are not the right food that should eat for protein. I really appreciate what Dr Guntry said about what we should better to eat for protein from vegetable food in the other video of this channel.

  • @sueorosz8886
    @sueorosz8886 4 месяца назад +1

    I ❤ peanuts 🥜 and I eat them everyday… I eat ground peanuts as my nut butter w no added oils salt or sugar … I eat peanuts in the shell w the red skins on! I will continue to eat peanuts because they are filling and delicious! I also eat meat and chickpeas… and fruit and broccoli 🥦 idk 🤷 don’t we need a variety!? That said, building muscle 💪🏻 is not easy after a certain age even w good food… 🍱 you do the best you can.

  • @sherlynpatterson4304
    @sherlynpatterson4304 6 месяцев назад +5

    Why didn't your guest mention lamb protein? Lamb has one of if not the best amino acid profile closest to human amino acid profile in proportion and types of amino acid essential and non essential.

    • @alexanderohanlon8825
      @alexanderohanlon8825 5 месяцев назад

      Nice to know.

    • @sherlynpatterson4304
      @sherlynpatterson4304 5 месяцев назад

      @blobmonster9494 Lamb tastes terrible when cooked with margarine or hydrogenated seed oils. If you bake a lamb shoulder chop using a reverse searing method you may change your mind about the flavor. Margarine or all hydrogenated seed oils except grape seed oil makes lamb have a real spoiled gamy smell and flavor. If you want to season the lamb chop use a slice of butter and the original Mrs. Dash / Dash. Or grape seed oil( should always be flavorless)or olive oil with Italian seasoning. A third spice option is by Spice Hunter called Chef Blend. A fourth seasoning option is Trader Joe's 21 seasoning salute. A spicier version of the 21 seasoning salute is Steak Seasoning by Marcum. Badia brand of Andrew Zimmerman Mediterranean Magic has the addition of mint. If you only want to use oregano, salt and pepper make sure you use Greek Oregano it has a sweet savory flavor that is totally different from the oregano people use in Tex Mex food or other Italian blends. It will be a good compliment to sweet Thai Basil. Some people also like the spice blend called Spike Original Seasoning because it has a sweet smell and flavor. If you don't want to use spices you can use mint jelly, a horseradish sauce of choice, Outback Steakhouse blooming onion sauce or Sweet Baby Ray Secret dipping sauce. Sweet Baby Ray'sauce is the closest thing to the Outback Steakhouse sauce that's premade. Hope these cooking tips are helpful.

  • @ruthbiafora5443
    @ruthbiafora5443 6 месяцев назад +5

    I love Dr. Lyons and also Dr. Gundry. If I’m correct, their diet choices are quite different because Dr. Lyons consumes good sources of animal protein like bison.

  • @ethimself5064
    @ethimself5064 6 месяцев назад +2

    I tried the Atkins diet decades ago and lots 10 pounds in 7 days. One question I have here - The Dr. Atkins diet was only meant for people to lose weight. He clearly stated that when one starts reaching their goal is to slowly increasing carbs until one can maintain their weight.

    • @jellybeanvinkler4878
      @jellybeanvinkler4878 5 месяцев назад +1

      The problem is carbs tend to cause more carb cravings. So some ppl gain easily once carbs are added to the diet. This is why many people stick to low carb indefinitely.
      No carbs=no cravings= no weight gain.

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 5 месяцев назад

      @@jellybeanvinkler4878 It worked fo many although many also rebounded

  • @shekatagani
    @shekatagani 5 месяцев назад +1

    Exercise and eat a balanced diet, Great advise!

  • @stephenhodges1048
    @stephenhodges1048 6 месяцев назад +15

    I had low levels or protein in my blood a few years ago so I started eating a high protein diet. I gained 20+ pounds of fat and my protein levels did not improve. I switched to the plant paradox way of eating to fix my gut. Since then I lost the extra weight and my protein levels are normal.

    • @samlopez1013
      @samlopez1013 6 месяцев назад +5

      Did your workout or stimulate your body while eating more protein??

    • @stephenhodges1048
      @stephenhodges1048 6 месяцев назад

      @@samlopez1013 I’m an active person who always gets plenty of exercise. That’s not really the point. For a long time I’ve had stubborn belly fat that never went away no matter how much I exercised. A couple of years ago a blood analysis showed that I had a low level of protein in my blood. Typical advice from doctors is to just eat more protein or drink protein shakes such as Ensure. Bad advice as those are usually high in carbohydrates. No matter how much protein I ate my levels did not improve. Then I starting listening to Dr. Gundry who has explained in many of his podcasts and books that the real problem is leaky gut. This makes it very hard to lose weight and also lead to malabsorption of protein among many problems. About a year ago I started following his advice on how to eat to repair my gut. Since then, I’ve lost about 40 pounds and my protein levels have gone up even though I eat less of it than I did a year ago.

    • @mareksumguy1887
      @mareksumguy1887 5 месяцев назад +1

      ??

    • @emh8861
      @emh8861 5 месяцев назад +1

      Too much protein turns into sugar. Also some people have problems with digestion.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 4 месяца назад

      you didn't train or overate

  • @user-dc6cm1iu3j
    @user-dc6cm1iu3j 5 месяцев назад +2

    Dr Gundry I am a big fan. I thought this was a good interview. I was expecting more at the end on the types of protein. I thought you would have had more to say in response to doctor Lyons last comment on animal protein . I'm a big fan of hers too. And it would just would have been nice to hash things out a bit more about new5GC

  • @user-cl7pm7zm3x
    @user-cl7pm7zm3x 5 месяцев назад

    The amino acid composition and nutritional value of leaf protein is similar to milk protein, which is understandable since cows produce milk from the amino acids produced in their rumens by bacteria digesting the leaves the cows have eaten

  • @kit0kat101
    @kit0kat101 Месяц назад

    i'm curious what you both think of the brand Truvani. I love their protein and how there's no hidden anything or gums/binders but it's primarily Pea protein

  • @nathan500100
    @nathan500100 4 месяца назад +1

    if the ultimate goal of eating protein is to get the aminos and minerals could someone just eat a little less protein and add some amino and mineral supplementation? some people might have issues with high uric acid and eating the high purines with meat could cause some problem as well as the Nu5Gc with beef,goat,pork and from what i recall some studies showing all cause mortality with high red meat intake.

  • @docgl8301
    @docgl8301 6 месяцев назад

    Great conversation. What about the effect of statin drugs on skeletal muscle on seniors (60+), recent or long term use of these drugs. Does daily 30 minute exercise balance out any effect of the drug?

    • @hikari8858
      @hikari8858 4 месяца назад

      People who eat mostly meat do not need statins.

  • @ainisepalu8427
    @ainisepalu8427 6 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing interview by Dr Gundry, absolutely love Dr Lyon.

  • @yaserkazerani5878
    @yaserkazerani5878 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can someone please summarize this? What protein and how much is Ok?

  • @chewie94116
    @chewie94116 5 месяцев назад +3

    To get 2.5 gm Leucine, you can eat 100 gm chicken breast (165 calories) or 150 gm firm tofu (218 calories) or 500 gm soft tofu (365 calories). Conversion 1 lb equal about 453 gm.
    Both tofu and chicken contain all essential amino acids needed for humans. Therefore, you need to decide which is more accessible and less expensive. Chicken might have the lowest calories, but there are not enough pasture raised organic chickens in the world to feed everyone. So, tofu might be the better option. (the bad lectins should be reduced when soybean is converted to tofu)

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 4 месяца назад

      you want all amino acids in meal
      the fact 3 or 4 have higher importance doesn't change fact that can't be used when domino cascade lacks pieces

    • @chewie94116
      @chewie94116 4 месяца назад

      @@szymonbaranowski8184 Agreed

  • @YAHdozinda
    @YAHdozinda 5 месяцев назад

    I know dr gundry says no bread...but does anyone know if you could make bread from millet, sorghum and syllium husk, which has no lectins

  • @rodbarkley2518
    @rodbarkley2518 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have always thought that when Dr. Atkins died he had Anasarca and was not fat.

  • @danmichaels3548
    @danmichaels3548 6 месяцев назад +11

    Dr Gundry agrees with Dr Valter Longo that If you are below the age of 65, keep protein intake low (0.31 to 0.36 grams per pound of body weight). That comes to 40 to 47 grams of proteins per day for a person weighing 130 pounds, and 60 to 70 grams of protein per day for someone weighing 200 to 220 pounds. Dr. Lyon INCORRECTLY stated that Dr. Longo recommends 0.36 grams PER KILOGRAM and Dr. Gundry mistakenly agreed with her. She meant per pound. Her own diet plan recommends much more protein, which Dr. Gundry disagrees with. Why does he do interviews like this? It can be confusing.

    • @engineerman7463
      @engineerman7463 6 месяцев назад +5

      I think they agreed on time restricted windows and cycling... But she has another video interview with Dr Hyman where she says to have three meals a day and every meal has to have animal protein with the portion of your hand palm....so it is confusing lol... But they are both great doctors and I respect them..

    • @M3W3
      @M3W3 5 месяцев назад

      I replayed the video, Dr Lyon got it correct, she did not quote anything wrong, but she quote twice in the interview , the second time she quote wrong, so it should just be a careless mistake

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 4 месяца назад

      who cares how much protein
      its important how much muscle you have in result

  • @myflesh10
    @myflesh10 6 месяцев назад +4

    Many of The people in numerous blue zones are slim people yes? Many people in the long lived Loma Linda area are vegan as well. I tend to have more faith in the Blue Zone research and decades long clinical practices than I do many studies out there, but I dont discount them either. For muscle mass alone though I tend to agree animal protein is where it's at but not nessesarily Health/Longevity

    • @jellybeanvinkler4878
      @jellybeanvinkler4878 5 месяцев назад +2

      I know that most all the blue zones include animal products. Some of them include a lot of meat. Loma Linda may be the only exception.
      Also, of all the long-lived ppl I know personally, none were vegan, or even vegetarian. 100% omnivore.🤷‍♀️

    • @myflesh10
      @myflesh10 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jellybeanvinkler4878 good points! Thats whaT I keep telling people hah my two great grand mothers lived into their late 90s eating some moderate meat

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 4 месяца назад +1

      it depends if you burn your stem cells with heavy training or not
      you can get higher muscle mass with minimum required effort or burn yourself down growing too much or training too much

    • @myflesh10
      @myflesh10 4 месяца назад

      @@szymonbaranowski8184 good point! Bodybuilders are not known for long lives

  • @shelleyjohnson345
    @shelleyjohnson345 15 дней назад

    Have you heard of the starch factor, Mcdougal? Plentiful Kiki lost 70 pounds. Eats no meat. I’d like your educated thoughts?

  • @udaybapat887
    @udaybapat887 5 месяцев назад +1

    Am from Mumbai....India.Take home mesage? For viewers.... Just confusion state no final authentic solution , in dilemma, which is right path to follow non veg Vs veg/vegan diets. These bloody so called trials are funny and partial or biased... always favours the follower of that perticulour school of thought ! After watching marathon interviews of many doctors cum scientists youtubers scientist always found that all the reporst and clinical trials are equivocally contradictory ! seldom decides the final result which a layman expects from them. Wiseness ... is to follow our long living family member's conventional regional diets they are following decades and still healthy .Chances thst we may become a lunatic due to dilemmas created after watching such contradictory facts..God bless us.

    • @marktapley7571
      @marktapley7571 5 месяцев назад

      India has a type 2 diabetes rate close to that of the U.S. so clearly many people are consuming too much carbohydrate. Lyons was vey clear that animal based protein is far superior to plant sources, not only in getting better amino acid profile but also in avoiding the huge amount of carbs that would have to be eaten in plant protein sources in order to get the necessary protein.

  • @olwill1
    @olwill1 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dr. Gundry talks about being sad that people quitting drugs like Ozempic gained back 50% of the weight they lost in three months. Has he never hear of low-carb? Has he never heard of Keto? Would he rather worry about the effects of Ozempic rather than have his patients eat meat and be healthy?

  • @YamatoForever
    @YamatoForever 5 месяцев назад

    What do I do as a person with kidney disease regarding protein? I'm 6'5" and if I ate 1 gram of protein per optimal pound of weight (let's say 200) will that hurt my kidney's?

  • @Rureal42
    @Rureal42 5 месяцев назад

    When you say eating carbs throughout the day is bad for stimulating MTOR are we talking about all carbs or just refined carbs?

  • @CarenWilson
    @CarenWilson 5 месяцев назад +1

    I like to throw in the studies from Dr Peter DAdamo blood type matters live right with blood type. We are getting there 0 + makes a great difference and carnivore

  • @user-py7wp6nw9h
    @user-py7wp6nw9h 6 месяцев назад +1

    oh my god, Dr Lyon is soooooo gorgeous

    • @emh8861
      @emh8861 5 месяцев назад

      💀

  • @emh8861
    @emh8861 5 месяцев назад

    I love chickpeas and tofu ! I don’t eat it everyday.

  • @kst157
    @kst157 6 месяцев назад +2

    She’s wrong on so many fronts & gets her protein figures mixed up with per Kg & per lb so they are wrong in the episode… as an expert you’d expect her to know her numbers. She’s also wrong about plants & I agree with Dr. Gundry & Dr. Walter Longo instead of her views. Agree with limiting eating window.

    • @M3W3
      @M3W3 5 месяцев назад +2

      She got it right

  • @heithm38
    @heithm38 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bodybuilders have been saying this for years. Better late then never for the medical industry.

    • @agx8120
      @agx8120 6 месяцев назад +1

      Sure they have bud lol

    • @ToXiiCRaZz
      @ToXiiCRaZz 6 месяцев назад

      What does they been talking for years?? Haha

    • @redliner1408
      @redliner1408 6 месяцев назад

      Lmao

    • @milycome
      @milycome 5 месяцев назад +2

      The very most important question ⁉️⁉️⁉️ to ask is are Bodybuilders long lived or short lived. Do the heavily muscle bound live long, or are the very slim underweight live long despite experiencing some muscle atrophy ???

    • @heithm38
      @heithm38 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@milycome good question. A lot of body builders have higher blood pressure do to wanting to have all the extra muscles weight. I consider that a health risk. Personally only wanting to add limited muscle and drop weight as an offset. Then you have the body builders that want to take PED (performance enhancement drugs) that would not be me. I simply thought the medical community would say the same thing having the same data available.

  • @SHGmail-rj2tj
    @SHGmail-rj2tj 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why was this talk so short?….. Was it ended early for some reason? …….. So many more important topics to discuss and it would have been so good to hear scientific opinions from 2 people with slightly differing ideas in this space….. There must be more of this talk available no?????

  • @myananda4293
    @myananda4293 3 месяца назад

    WHAT? I spent all morning looking up all the medical words they used to understand what the heck they were saying in layman's terms because I am trying to find very specific numbers for protein intake etc. as I have serious illness. She actually gave all that, and I know he does not agree, and wham! the video is over! Is this You Tube or what? Very frustrating! I want to hear what HE has to say. Who cares about anyone else if it doesn't support HIS research! He did NOT bust any myths! Why are many of his video titles misleading?

  • @TestTest-tp2bz
    @TestTest-tp2bz 4 месяца назад

    Is it 0.8 gram per pound or per kg? A lot of confusing 😕 info.

  • @trotskyite1
    @trotskyite1 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wow those cultures that are high carb and have robust health must be metabolically devastated and they don't know it😂

  • @atherton7662
    @atherton7662 5 месяцев назад

    Dr Gundry lookin sharp

  • @bizzbuilder
    @bizzbuilder 5 месяцев назад +1

    We don’t have the slightest idea what M tour means so it would be helpful if you would be less technical in your speech so that people that are not doctors can understand what you’re talking about

    • @hikari8858
      @hikari8858 4 месяца назад

      MTOR. Just google it.

  • @42klamato
    @42klamato 5 месяцев назад

    What about amino acids/protein in spirulina?

  • @richricogranada9647
    @richricogranada9647 4 месяца назад

    How come I’m so muscular if I do not eat Animal flesh for more than 45 years? Am I an Elephant, or a Horse, or a Bear?

  • @royalewithcheese25J
    @royalewithcheese25J 20 дней назад

    It is about fat and muscle

  • @DrJK-wm9ec
    @DrJK-wm9ec 5 месяцев назад

    Interesting exchange….but now I’m confused on how many grams of animal protein I need ….

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 4 месяца назад

      20g+ per meal minimum of balanced one source so that body would at least try to use 0.4g per kg more optimally

  • @erwinrogers9470
    @erwinrogers9470 5 месяцев назад

    Any suggestions, for a, mass gainer?

  • @jim-se5xc
    @jim-se5xc 6 месяцев назад +1

    i keep waiting for you to knock the glass over.