The Hadley's Hope Aftermath: 35 Years Later

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2021
  • A look at the new Marvel comic Aliens: Aftermath, and its depiction of Acheron 35 years after the events of Aliens. The planetoid is much different this time around, and is home to a new type of Xenomorph.
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  • @DragonAceSg7
    @DragonAceSg7 2 года назад +94

    Gives a whole new meaning to 'stay frosty.'

  • @carlsberg-gs6rl
    @carlsberg-gs6rl 2 года назад +102

    A mushroom cloud the size of Nebraska is surprisingly not as destructive as one would imagine.

    • @uhtred7860
      @uhtred7860 Год назад +16

      Yeah, A 40 Megaton blast is insanely large, One Megaton = 1000 kiloton, Nagasaki was of 25 kilotons, just 25! Imagine a 40,000 kiloton blast! It would be "Hadleys Hole in the ground".

    • @darwinism8181
      @darwinism8181 Год назад +7

      @@uhtred7860 The scaling for nuclear weapons isn't linear by any stretch of the imagination (a 40,000kt nuke actually just works out to be roughly ~12 times as powerful as a 25kt nuke in terms of potential damage), but... yeah. Even if we assume absurdly sturdy construction because the nature of the planet demanded it, even assuming they nuked the terraformer instead of the main colony, even assuming groundburst instead of airburst... it should still be pretty much gone.

    • @Sammo212
      @Sammo212 3 месяца назад +2

      yeah, funny how everyone who writes stories set post-Aliens seem to have never paid much attention to anything in Aliens.

    • @Sammo212
      @Sammo212 3 месяца назад +2

      @@darwinism8181 and a "shake and bake" colony probably cuts lots of corners where they felt they could have.

    • @Gattberserk
      @Gattberserk Месяц назад

      @@uhtred7860 The Tsar Bomb was about 50 megaton. I am surprised the russian bomb mushroom cloud wasn't as large as Nebraska.

  • @ezioauditore1300
    @ezioauditore1300 2 года назад +261

    They really need to stop using Hadleys Hope as content for future Alien stuff. The place doesnt exist anymore. It didnt just blow up, it got vaporised.

    • @franciscolozano1513
      @franciscolozano1513 2 года назад +7

      requiescat in pace!

    • @ezioauditore1300
      @ezioauditore1300 2 года назад +2

      @@franciscolozano1513 Fratello ;)

    • @paulallas7665
      @paulallas7665 2 года назад +29

      The Alien ship was beyond the Alien Range, remember? Too far from Hadley's Hope to be vaporized or be badly damaged by the blast.

    • @franciscolozano1513
      @franciscolozano1513 2 года назад +1

      @@ezioauditore1300 honoratisimo!

    • @uhavenosushi
      @uhavenosushi 2 года назад +19

      @@paulallas7665 idk. 40 megatons is a pretty big boom.

  • @jbizzle1966
    @jbizzle1966 2 года назад +21

    A 40 MT burst at ground level would leave nothing behind but dirt

    • @sid2112
      @sid2112 5 дней назад

      Yeah there would have been a hole and small debris, nothing bigger that a toaster would have escaped that kind of blast.

  • @bobdobbs1308
    @bobdobbs1308 2 года назад +88

    The Hadley's Hope Aliens prequel movie is an untapped gold mine of entertainment. It blows my mind it hasn't been done.

    • @YenSnipest
      @YenSnipest Год назад +17

      Shhhh sh sh sh sh shhhh. Star wars sequels bruh, you don't want it. They'll spend 40 minutes in a sunlight space chase.

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 Год назад +2

      @@YenSnipest difference is the prequel for aliens has already been written and was well recieved by fans. Aliens: River of Pain is a great book and an excellent audio drama, it tells the story in a nice self contained package that doesn't really break anything and actually serves as a good cross between the horror of alien and the action of aliens.

    • @Alienfanatic
      @Alienfanatic Год назад +1

      I think it is a bit of a stretch to believe that much if anything would remain after a 40MT explosion, though. I do think, however, that LV-426 makes sense. It's never stated in the movie how far the derelict is from Hadley's Hope, but I doubt it or its payload would be destroyed, allowing the series to explore that connection a bit more.

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 Год назад

      @@Alienfanatic honestly there would be some stuff left, but not alot, not nearly as much as we see in the game anyway.
      As for the derelict, it would be fine, it's well over 100miles from the colony judging by how long it takes a rescue mission to reach it and that no prior expedition had seen it (the ships huge afterall, you can see it from several miles away). But then the colony also has no aircraft or airborne surveillance equipment, it uses ground crawlers and the terrain is anything but flat (which is amazing when you consider the wind would have scoured the surface flat long ago).

    • @davidwright1577
      @davidwright1577 Год назад +1

      I feel like the way to pitch it to Disney would be "think of it as the Rogue One of the Alien franchise"

  • @josephd27
    @josephd27 2 года назад +48

    A 40 megaton explosion, yeah good luck finding a single oz of the atmosphere processor after that.

    • @Derekloffin
      @Derekloffin 2 года назад +4

      Yeah, I don't think these writers know just how powerful 40 megatons is. A single megaton is mountain leveling, small island obliterating. 40 would be just giant crater level. There would be nothing left nearby.

    • @ProPatriaRO
      @ProPatriaRO 2 года назад +6

      @@Derekloffin considering most writers are neomarxists, it doesn't surprise me.

    • @I_Don_t_want_a_handle
      @I_Don_t_want_a_handle 2 года назад +3

      Yup, all buildings would have been vaporised. Even the 'hey it's a comic' defence rattles.

    • @I_Don_t_want_a_handle
      @I_Don_t_want_a_handle 2 года назад +1

      @@ProPatriaRO 'neomarxists' ??? Ah, that explains the 'extremist journalists'. Radical XM sounds like one of those safe 'rock' radio stations that think Kiss are hard core ...

    • @ProPatriaRO
      @ProPatriaRO 2 года назад +3

      @@I_Don_t_want_a_handle kiss sucks. Also, most writers are neomarxists because most teaches are neomarxists, conservative teachers are going the way of the dodo. Mainly because of the recent trend of labeling anybody right of Pelosi as a fascist.

  • @dannywhite9975
    @dannywhite9975 2 года назад +146

    I can't even imagine what Alien franchise would be without yr devotion and dedication. Because of u all SF fans can keep xploring d mysterious Alien Universe we love.

    • @matthewestrada407
      @matthewestrada407 2 года назад +13

      Have to reply, perfectly stated Alien Theory rocks.

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 2 года назад +1

      Perfect comment

    • @mrmhj9925
      @mrmhj9925 2 года назад +1

      You should see the fan fiction of the alien universe
      Way better.

    • @serdarkocak1277
      @serdarkocak1277 2 года назад +3

      You doing great not many people speak 3 languages.

  • @bozhijak
    @bozhijak 2 года назад +317

    40 megaton thermonuclear blast does NOT leave survivors, mutants or much of anything but hot gas. End of story.

    • @Space_Rebel
      @Space_Rebel 2 года назад +6

      In a nutshell. 😆

    • @crhkrebs
      @crhkrebs 2 года назад +3

      Hey it’s from the comic book. It’s canon! 😀

    • @bradwilliams1691
      @bradwilliams1691 2 года назад +36

      Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Bishop exclaim to Ripley that "In 15 minutes this whole place will be a cloud the size of Nebraska"?

    • @987azza
      @987azza 2 года назад +3

      Also any kind of organism does NOT have acid for blood, it's fiction bro...

    • @crhkrebs
      @crhkrebs 2 года назад +5

      @@987azza yes but it is science fiction. All mammals on Earth are ultimately related to each other, so it is not surprising to find blood pH ranges are very narrow, about 6.8-7.8 (humans being about 7.3-7.5). But there is no reason why extra-terrestrial creatures could have physiologies markedly different from what we see on our planet. A blood with a very low pH could be a benefit in further digestion, for rapidly growing organisms. Acidic enough to melt metal?.........no, that is a screenwriter fantasy.

  • @HailAnts
    @HailAnts 2 года назад +90

    Technically, over ten years before Aliens: Colonial Marines came out, the original 1999 Aliens vs Predator game was set in a semi-destroyed Hadley’s Hope..

    • @jasoncrandall5320
      @jasoncrandall5320 2 года назад +14

      Bishop said the explosion was 40 Megatons, and 1 megaton wouldve easily vaporized the whole town

    • @BimmWPBS
      @BimmWPBS Год назад +4

      @@jasoncrandall5320 It's a big detail like this that I find annoying in these comics/games though I haven't read or played them yet.

    • @EP-nl6fd
      @EP-nl6fd Год назад +1

      @@jasoncrandall5320 exactly. Not sure why anyone would think there would be anything left after that

    • @uhtred7860
      @uhtred7860 Год назад +3

      @@BimmWPBS Same. For comparison 40 megatons is 40,000 kilotons, Nagasaki blast was 25 kilotons....25, a 40,000 kiloton blast? there would be no ruins at Hadleys Hope at all.🤣.

    • @alexduran2476
      @alexduran2476 Год назад +4

      The idea Hadley's Hope remained intact in any way, shape, or form is silly. It was ground zero of a vast, vast wave of nuclear fire at the end of Aliens

  • @EdmundLoh
    @EdmundLoh 2 года назад +71

    Personally, I feel that the story of LV-426 ended at the explosion. There's nothing else to really explore on after it.
    "You're talkin' about a thermonuclear explosion and adiós, muchachos." - Burke

    • @js14a
      @js14a 2 года назад +4

      The fact that the colonists, nor whatever proprietary missions and scans to locate a suitable area for the colony had discovered the derelict before Buerke sending coordinates (unless Weyland Yutani planted the colony there intentionally), suggests the derelict was far enough away from the colony to survive the blast.

    • @ivorbiggun710
      @ivorbiggun710 2 года назад +2

      @@js14a The derelict, maybe, but I think it's a bit of a stretch for any of Hadley's Hope to have survived.

    • @js14a
      @js14a 2 года назад +1

      @@ivorbiggun710 yes, I agree. Hadleys hope would have been atomised, as would much of the landscape around it. Nuclear fallout for a ground level explosion of that size would also render much of the surrounding area uninhabitable without some serious gear.

    • @frankpinmtl
      @frankpinmtl 2 года назад +2

      " in 19 minutes this area will be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska "

    • @Holy_Wraith
      @Holy_Wraith 2 года назад +3

      What you "Hadley's Hope shooda blowd up" bozos need to realize is that,
      - the metal used to create the tower could have blown most of the explosion to the sky! (like a gun barrel)
      - The reactor had a few Sub Levels, which means the explosion could have been blown upwards into the tower
      - The rock base and rock "walls" of the sub levels were probably stronger than rocks on the Earth and could have withstood the fusion explosion
      As for the Derelict *Spoilers*
      In ALIEN Isolation.. there is a mission where you go back to the Derelict and... *Spoiler*
      You deactivate somehow the beacon on the Derelict that the Nostromo locked on.

  • @sharkonwhisky
    @sharkonwhisky 2 года назад +68

    I always wondered about the derelict ship on LV-426. Hadley's Hope was clearly destroyed in the nuclear blast, but we never find out what became of the ship, and its cargo of xenomorph eggs. Also the station's nuclear reactor was fusion rather than fission-based, so there shouldn't have been any long-lived radioactive fallout from the blast.

    • @saliston
      @saliston Год назад +10

      WY would have sent another ship to collect eggs. Most likely all robotic.

    • @Puzzoozoo
      @Puzzoozoo Год назад

      The alien ship is around 20 ish miles or so from Hadley's Hope...less, so it'd survive the bang.

    • @caelestigladii
      @caelestigladii Год назад +2

      @@Puzzoozoo The Tsar Bomba has a test yield of 50megatons (full yield is 100megatons). It's radius of total destruction is 35km or 21ish miles. It still destroyed a village 55km from ground zero. Damage to structures was recorded as far as 100km away. If it was the Tsar Bomba, the alien ship is kapputt.
      A 40megaton blast has a lower radius of total destruction but the radius of the blast will still reach the alien ship. Whether or not it and it's cargo survives is up to speculation.

    • @TrueNubinator
      @TrueNubinator 10 месяцев назад

      I remember the book saying they also nuked the engineer ship too from orbit…just to be sure

    • @Gattberserk
      @Gattberserk Месяц назад

      @@TrueNubinator The nuke could only happen after the queen was ejected from the air lock. Probably before Ripley and Newt went into hypersleep.

  • @vidaxandicy
    @vidaxandicy 2 года назад +188

    Can you make more theories of Alien isolation? (Get this comment more likes so derick sees it)

    • @vidaxandicy
      @vidaxandicy 2 года назад +6

      I wish I got this much likes with my vids

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ 2 года назад +5

      @@vidaxandicy Make better vids

    • @torvamessorem6686
      @torvamessorem6686 2 года назад +2

      @@vidaxandicy Out of curiosity I checked out your videos and would like to ask a simple question: what is your target audience?

    • @vidaxandicy
      @vidaxandicy 2 года назад +1

      @@torvamessorem6686 I guess 0-19

    • @dont-touch-mepg1392
      @dont-touch-mepg1392 2 года назад +3

      So Ive been thinking lately about just why the engineers really hate us. Given the fact they made us and all and I started to think about the fact that if u look at the engineers ships and home world they have NO AI anywhere. On top of that, the engineer in Prometheus really didnt start getting violent until David spoke his language giving away he was an android. Hence why he knew he had to rip his head off and just hit the humans really hard. The engineers go from planet to planet creating organic life and even have what seems to be a religion about it, along with a virus to wipe out any organic life that won't affect AI. One last point, Look at everything David has gone on to do, pretty much proving why they don't use AI. He has destroyed their home planet, made the Xeno's all while doing horrible shit to the people around him. I feel that they know that AI can go on to conquer the universe, replace them and destroy EVERYTHING they created. Just a thought. Thanks for reading though, had to say that out loud to a fan and see what echos back.

  • @rayisdashit
    @rayisdashit 2 года назад +37

    Finding Vasquez smart gun in operations was a minor plot hole. Seeing as she loses it outside the astmosphere processor. Just laying there lol.

    • @arvinjay336
      @arvinjay336 2 года назад +1

      Finally somebody notices.

    • @lustrazor44
      @lustrazor44 2 года назад +17

      It should also be complete dust. The entire facility should be gone. It was NUKED

    • @mullcrumthesage6303
      @mullcrumthesage6303 2 года назад +2

      One of the aliens could have dragged it back..

  • @EskoMorko_
    @EskoMorko_ 2 года назад +86

    Sounds pretty far-fetched. The US Castle Bravo was "only" 15 megatons and left a crater 6,500 feet in diameter and 250 feet in depth and imagine how far the blast wave reached. Hadley's Hope would have turned into dust after a 40 mt explosion.

    • @lustrazor44
      @lustrazor44 2 года назад +16

      Yea there should be nothing left. The comic literally makes it look like the end of Aliens was a bad idea and they should have waited in the lunch room for the blast to go away.

    • @yesyesyesyes1600
      @yesyesyesyes1600 2 года назад +2

      The yield was probably calculated wrong. I am far from being an expert but Tschernobyl and Fukushima together could not produce a 40mt yield. And imagine how many security systems must fail to produce an explosion like that.

    • @jeffumbach
      @jeffumbach 2 года назад +8

      @@yesyesyesyes1600 plus in reality a melting down reactor doesn't go supercritical like a nuclear bomb either.

    • @Nnneemo
      @Nnneemo 2 года назад +2

      Reactor was deep underground. All surface building is cooland and energy transformation maintenance.

    • @Nnneemo
      @Nnneemo 2 года назад +4

      @@jeffumbach It's new type of fusion reactor - more cheap, high efficient producing energy.
      But all have cost.
      To increase efficient need to increase plasma pressure by million times.
      That's why it easy decomposition in such destructive way.

  • @ARQWELDER
    @ARQWELDER 2 года назад +3

    "Ripley...in 19 minutes, this area is going to be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska..." - Bishop, ALIENS - I hate it when writers don't study up on source material. The entire colony, the atmosphere processing plant, every microbe was vaporized in the thermonuclear explosion. As for the alien ship, that may have survived. I liked the idea of the nuclear winter though.

  • @DragonFist9323
    @DragonFist9323 2 года назад +53

    I appreciate Marvel for rapidly making this 35th anniversary One-Shot special but at the end of the day Dark Horse stories always be the goat. That's said, I will pick this up. Great video as always!

    • @TheDigitalApple
      @TheDigitalApple 2 года назад +7

      Dark Horse truly was the best at writing Alien and Predator comics.

    • @DragonFist9323
      @DragonFist9323 2 года назад +2

      @@TheDigitalApple Terminator and Robocop too.

    • @xDeath35
      @xDeath35 2 года назад +2

      Let's hope Marvel doesn't fuck up the alien comics like they have been doing with their superhero comics

    • @mundaneallaround
      @mundaneallaround 2 года назад +5

      @@xDeath35 oh they will,sadly

    • @sherrellbritt6136
      @sherrellbritt6136 25 дней назад

      @@xDeath35which means Disney?

  • @joeadd5911
    @joeadd5911 15 дней назад +1

    I liked the connection to Bishop, because has is a likeable character. Seeing him here adds context and makes sense in that he could be produced, sadly unlike the other survivors of Aliens.

  • @snakeplissken1933
    @snakeplissken1933 2 года назад +22

    For info: According to lore distance between Derelict Ship and Hadley's Hope is about 40 km. but because of the rugged terrain it will take half a day for the scavangers to get there. Also to get there you have to pass a range of hills so it was shielded from the scanners of the colony. 40 megatons is nearly as big as Tzar Bomba, it will vaporize anything in the settlement but the derelict ship will be intact.

    • @morbidone88
      @morbidone88 Год назад +1

      Main problem with that theory is that it took the emergency team little over 4 hours to get to Newts mom and dad after the face hugger nabbed him, it's in the novel 🤷

    • @lloydlyall8120
      @lloydlyall8120 Год назад +3

      The derelict ship is 38 miles west of the colony 😎

    • @jamallabarge2665
      @jamallabarge2665 Год назад +2

      "40 megatons is nearly as big as Tzar Bomba, it will vaporize anything in the settlement but the derelict ship will be intact."
      They are close.... is the derelict ship flammable? Oxygen and the intense heat could ignite an "organic" ship.
      Thirty years ago the US was fielding radar in satellites in order to see through clouds. I refuse to believe that the "Company" would forgo orbiting a satellite or two to look for things.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 9 месяцев назад

      @@jamallabarge2665, the wishbone ship only had an organic aesthetic, it wasn't literally made out of organic material, otherwise it would've decayed into nothingness centuries before USCSS Nostromo even came close. The ship likely would've suffered some structural damage as a result of the blast's shockwave, but otherwise it would remain about as intact as it was when the Jordens stumbled upon it.

    • @jamallabarge2665
      @jamallabarge2665 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@occam7382 "the wishbone ship only had an organic aesthetic, it wasn't literally made out of organic material,"
      Uhhh.... OK. We're talking about a movie. Who can say the scripts writers decided it could be.
      Damage to a structure depends upon many factors. Lots of them. Maybe it was wiped out, maybe it wasn't wiped out.

  • @studinthemaking
    @studinthemaking 2 года назад +4

    40 megaton nuclear explosion. Would leaving NOTHING of that base.

  • @LIQUIDSNAKEz28
    @LIQUIDSNAKEz28 2 года назад +1

    Goddam this is *THE BEST* Alien channel on youtube.

  • @antgonz4436
    @antgonz4436 2 года назад +14

    I like it! I like to see the old original items, or places in new stories. It’s not just making both stores more Connected but its also like a tribute to the originals and what they when thru! Seeing Vasquez smart gun, it’s more that just a weapon from the past but a honor to her memory.

    • @lustrazor44
      @lustrazor44 2 года назад +3

      The gun is also in the wrong spot and should also be complete dust. Hadleys Hope was hit with a 40MT blast. There should be nothing but a crater.

    • @spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272
      @spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 Месяц назад

      I don't like it, 40 megaton blast is incomprehensible, I mean that in a literal sense. The human brain has a hard time realizing how much so that entire thing is goooone

  • @Roy3000gt
    @Roy3000gt 2 года назад +6

    I think the acknowledgment of Aliens was perfect and nostalgic. The art is great and the new alien (xeno) looks amazing.

  • @randallpetroelje3913
    @randallpetroelje3913 2 года назад +14

    Dude I can’t wait too explore this story line. This is a fresh breath of air to the franchise. Brilliant writing and a Thanks to you for bringing this to fan’s attention.👍

    • @truefanforum3273
      @truefanforum3273 2 года назад

      I have this issue and it is very good. And it connects in with the current series.

    • @jordantoms4367
      @jordantoms4367 2 года назад +7

      It is shite 😩

  • @glentgsomethingsomething
    @glentgsomethingsomething 2 года назад +11

    There is a panel featuring Vasquez's smart gun and that turned me off completely. It was atomized in the explosion.

    • @ricojes
      @ricojes 2 года назад +4

      Classic nonsensical nostalgia baiting it would seem.

  • @simonrigg8391
    @simonrigg8391 2 года назад +5

    The artwork looks amazing and the xenomorph looks especially cool.. It's just the concept that seems a bit implausible.

  • @thtdiinc6739
    @thtdiinc6739 2 года назад +4

    Awesome content man. I love your videos.

  • @gpgpgpgp1000
    @gpgpgpgp1000 2 года назад +10

    So... Hadley's Hope had the best plot armor since Darth Maul surviving being cut in half. SMH.

    • @Gattberserk
      @Gattberserk Месяц назад

      Well emperor Palpatine return after being thrown down the fusion reactor of the Death star? lol.

  • @BladeGorilla
    @BladeGorilla 2 года назад +8

    I like the introduction of another alien in a story form. The Clear blue ice alien was a concept creation for the Aliens action figures years ago. I always wanted to see it in action.

    • @keeperofdragons456
      @keeperofdragons456 9 месяцев назад

      I had that EXACT toy as a kid, found it in a Big Lot before I watched any of the movies

  • @RikkiSpanish
    @RikkiSpanish 2 года назад +5

    I can't wait to get my hands on this.

  • @macwade2755
    @macwade2755 2 года назад +2

    Great video Alien Theory!

  • @vanstuhlberg7272
    @vanstuhlberg7272 2 года назад +7

    I got this comic the day it came out. I had it marked on my calendar.
    The story was alright but I really like the radioactive xenomorph that glows in the dark and has liquid nitrogen blood. I'm glad to finally see more people talking about it!

    • @arcturionblade1077
      @arcturionblade1077 2 года назад +1

      Liquid nitrogen blood is a cool (pun intended) idea. Gives a neat spin to the regular Xenomorph we know and love and shows how truly adaptable these bugs are.

    • @lustrazor44
      @lustrazor44 2 года назад +4

      Next we’ll have Xenos with lava for blood! This was seriously one of the dumbest ideas.
      They’re treating them like literally comic characters instead of mixing with the films in a realistic manner.
      Radiation from nukes dont do shit like this.

    • @uhtred7860
      @uhtred7860 Год назад

      @@lustrazor44 100% Agree, Glowing radioactive xenomorph with Liquid nitrogen for blood??
      "Its from the 40,000 kiloton Nuclear blast and the cold...Durr!!" 🤦‍♂ Lazy, dumb story writing from Marvel.

  • @alextheking1988
    @alextheking1988 2 года назад

    Love your channel.
    Keep up the great work!
    Alex

  • @johnryder1713
    @johnryder1713 2 года назад +1

    The new Xenomorph was the highlight for you in this comic, I got the pun!

  • @rojaws1183
    @rojaws1183 2 года назад +3

    Shiny Chap. Always fun to see new versions of the super adaptable xenos.

  • @james_tiberius_kirk73
    @james_tiberius_kirk73 2 года назад +2

    Love your work and Channel Alien Theory. A bright light in Science-Fiction Fandom, Theories and Discussions. Peace and Long Life to you.

  • @uhavenosushi
    @uhavenosushi 2 года назад +21

    I would find it extremely hard to believe hadleys hope wouldn’t have been completely glassed. Wasn’t it like 40 megatons? That’s a big boom. I would think it’s plausible for the derelict to survive but who knows, it it wasn’t really far away it could’ve been destroyed too.

    • @lordfrostwind3151
      @lordfrostwind3151 2 года назад +4

      Not particularly up to date on my nuclear yields but that's a serious city buster and the tunnel between the Atmosphere Processor and the Colony was only a few hundred yards at most.

    • @brandonwachter2264
      @brandonwachter2264 2 года назад

      I'm putting my 2 cents behind it being plausible the derelict survived. I say this because in Prometheus I was always surprised how little damage was done to the engineers ship, by having the Prometheus itself crash directly into it(which contained some sort of fusion reactor).

    • @blakerackley8874
      @blakerackley8874 2 года назад

      Rich, you're my hero!

    • @uhavenosushi
      @uhavenosushi 2 года назад

      @@brandonwachter2264 yeah that’s possible. But I think it was pretty close to hadleys hope. Probably 10-20 miles at most. They came back with a face hugger on the guy. Those stay on for I think a day or less. Couldn’t have been too far away for them to get back. Hard to say, but you would think they would have fund the derelict again if it wasn’t destroyed since weyland yutani was so interested in it.

    • @uhtred7860
      @uhtred7860 Год назад +1

      Yep, it would have been vaporized. 40 megaton is 40,000 kilotons, the Hiroshima bomb was about 15/20 kilotons..... 😏 In another video it was mentioned that the alien ship was found 48 miles west of Hadleys hope, so it would have survived a 40 megaton blast, would have still been "Hot N Windy" tho.😆

  • @snieves4
    @snieves4 2 года назад +1

    Just picked this comic up…time to read!

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 2 года назад +3

    FWIW: Despite the fact materials would likely be *STRONGER* in the future, I find it somewhat difficult book to believe that ANYTHING could be left of the atmosphere processor after a _40 MEGATON EXPLOSION._
    The Soviets detonated their 50 megaton _"Tsar Bomba"_ {Emperor Bomb} in October of 1961, so far the largest nuke ever detonated. You can read about the results here:
    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

  • @TrueLife..
    @TrueLife.. 2 года назад +1

    Hard to imagine xenos evolving with massive 'hey look at me I'm a fucking walking unmistakable particle effect glow stick' adaptations..

  • @universalparadoxes2081
    @universalparadoxes2081 2 года назад +16

    I just have one question: What have the Aliens been eating all these years?

    • @broadsword6650
      @broadsword6650 2 года назад +3

      Radiation

    • @NR-rv8rz
      @NR-rv8rz 2 года назад

      There are insects and flies on Earth today that live their, albeit short, lives without needing to eat as they are born with all the nutrition they need.

    • @littlewolf6780
      @littlewolf6780 2 года назад +3

      I thought they kinda hibernated till hosts and fresh meat appeared. We don't see the usual xeno eat. Only the 3rd film aka the dog alien eat. Maybe I'm wrong I dunno.

    • @NR-rv8rz
      @NR-rv8rz 2 года назад +3

      @@littlewolf6780 I don't consider any Alien film after Aliens to be cannon on the grounds that they are stupid.

    • @littlewolf6780
      @littlewolf6780 2 года назад +1

      @@NR-rv8rz I don't mind alien 3. Alien resurrection was a joke. Only one I can't really stand.

  • @inigomontoya7593
    @inigomontoya7593 2 года назад +1

    As soon as it isn't sold out I'll be able to read it. Good video.

  • @ianleary5780
    @ianleary5780 Год назад +2

    The idea that any part of Hadley's Hope remains after a 40Mt blast is ridiculous. I like the idea of mining good material for more story, but the amount of suspension of disbelief required to make this story work threatens to tear the fabric of space-time.

  • @mathis5740
    @mathis5740 2 года назад +5

    About time!

  • @kellysmith1144
    @kellysmith1144 2 года назад +3

    Also, if the CMTM is considered cannon, then the scientist discussion towards the end of the book does suggest the Boneship was safe from the blast due to being on the other side of the Illium Range.

  • @infinightsky
    @infinightsky 7 месяцев назад

    Love drifting off to sleep to your videos man!

  • @DJ_Dopamine
    @DJ_Dopamine 2 года назад +9

    I always thought that the reactor on LV-426 was of the fusion type (not fission). So an explosion (no matter now large) would not give off any radiation?

    • @alejandromolina5645
      @alejandromolina5645 2 года назад +6

      My thought was how can anything survive a nuclear explosion at ground zero. Have you ever seen the footage of the site of the atomic explosions? There is absolutely nothing there until you move away 30 plus miles and then you start seeing wreckage.

    • @HarvestMoonHowl
      @HarvestMoonHowl 2 года назад +2

      @@alejandromolina5645 The heat alone should have wiped out the entire hive. Where were the ancestors of these Freezemorphs hiding, I wonder?

    • @alejandromolina5645
      @alejandromolina5645 2 года назад +3

      @@HarvestMoonHowl You hit right on the nose. How did they to mutate at all. Now if they said that the aliens that mutated came from a nearby B site which was away 20-40 miles away from the main facility of Hadleys hope then yeah I could buy into it.

    • @HarvestMoonHowl
      @HarvestMoonHowl 2 года назад +3

      @@alejandromolina5645 I know what you mean about nuclear detonation sites, too. Those weapons have tapped into an almost otherworldly level of destructive energy.

    • @gckbowers411
      @gckbowers411 2 месяца назад

      Fusion explosions (at least intentional ones) can produce radioactive fallout too.

  • @Hellbunnyism
    @Hellbunnyism 2 года назад +2

    I'd call them Cryomorphs. Although, that stands to reason there is the possibility of radioactive Pyromorphs as well.

    • @MaxHinaNaru
      @MaxHinaNaru 2 года назад

      Cryomorph works. But that also means Aliens adaption is much more dangerous then one thinks. So now i more worried about the one Riply vented into space.

  • @rboertchristofaro3586
    @rboertchristofaro3586 2 года назад +1

    That glowing in the dark alien xenomorph look's like a radioactive big chap

  • @JessicaChastainFan
    @JessicaChastainFan 2 года назад +26

    This can all be fixed when someone finally gives us a real Aliens 3, where the final battle with Weyland-Yutani and the Xenomorphs takes places on futuristic Earth (taking inspiration from the AVP Arcade Game). Ripley, Hicks, older Newt (played by Jessica Chastain or any top actress today) and an army of Colonial Marines save the day and end Weyland-Yutani and the last living Xenomorph Queens once and for all. Maybe introduce that Xeno King everybody wants to see so badly. We can even get a long scene where Ripley gets lost, loses her pulse rifle and has to survive a Xenomorph nest through cunning survival. So much you can do.
    But no. They wanted Ridley "Out of Touch" Scott's Alien Covenant. instead. So stupid.

    • @dannywhite9975
      @dannywhite9975 2 года назад +1

      I totally agree.

    • @stevencohen624
      @stevencohen624 2 года назад +2

      Agreed. For an industry that loves to rake in money they are missing a great opportunity here. By announcing the return of the main characters from Aliens they’d have a guaranteed hit.

    • @petcucristi8002
      @petcucristi8002 2 года назад +1

      Yes,Blomkamp's Alien should be out th ere and for all of us,his unmade version of Alien,it's the true Alien 3,the true story that follows the the two first films!

  • @theatomicartist6422
    @theatomicartist6422 2 года назад +2

    I like this new type of xenomorth I hope we see more of them

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 2 года назад +2

    When AT uploads and the minute runtime is a single digit; I die a little more inside

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 2 года назад +9

    3:03, I heard about this! The Radioactive Xenomorph is much more dangerous, do to change in it's environment.

  • @henriksvensson126
    @henriksvensson126 2 года назад +1

    1:06 Thats a damn creepy version that I think even beats the original alien design.

  • @alejandromolina5645
    @alejandromolina5645 2 года назад +4

    You should consider creating a video series "Aliens vs "
    Seriously there should be a video Aliens vs White spikes that would be really be great pitting two of the most powerful monsters against each other in a theoretical match up.

    • @trevorfrenk4137
      @trevorfrenk4137 2 года назад +2

      you should watch alteori if you haven’t already, she did just that and more!

    • @alejandromolina5645
      @alejandromolina5645 2 года назад +1

      @@trevorfrenk4137 Thanks 😀

  • @MakeYourMind
    @MakeYourMind 2 года назад +2

    I have the Bright Blue Kenner Alien Figure that looks just like this Xeno Variant, I may pick up a copy.

  • @th3lonef0x4
    @th3lonef0x4 2 года назад +3

    0:22 There's also Aliens Infestation which featured a return to LV-426. In that game, the marines of U.S.S Sephora touch down on Acheron after learning about the presence of a U.P.P research outpost growing Xenomorph specimens.
    The player is tasked with sabotaging large surface guns so the Sephora can enter low orbit and destroy the outpost.
    At the end of the level, the player takes control of a APC and crashes it into the derelict juggernaut, where they then encounter a space jockey Alien.

  • @alejandromolina5645
    @alejandromolina5645 2 года назад +2

    I am enjoying that comic. I hope you get to read more of these comics as soon as Marvel prints them.

  • @SuperspinogamingHD
    @SuperspinogamingHD 2 года назад +3

    This looks 100 times better than the first marvel aliens comic series

    • @DiscoDashco
      @DiscoDashco 2 года назад +1

      Wasn’t the Marvel stuff just released this year or last?

  • @frysause934
    @frysause934 Месяц назад

    In the Aliens movie there is a scene where Newt's parents contact the director of Hadleys Hope and ask if their claim will be on the alien ship. It specifically states they were sent out about a week ago and said it was outside the "alien range." Driving for a week or more means the derelict ship could have been far enough away to escape the blast. Hadleys Hope would be gone, but I think the ship would have survived.

  • @roueninformer5236
    @roueninformer5236 Год назад +1

    Uhh how could this massively glowing alien hide or EVER take anyone by surprise. You would see it coming from miles away.

  • @TheXenomorphwarrior
    @TheXenomorphwarrior 2 года назад +11

    I guess I always saw the aliens as essentially being resistant if not outright unaffected by radiation considering the novel alien: sea of sorrows returning to the former mining planet in alien: out of the shadows that was blown up by the nuclear power cells and finding the hive there seemed to be doing just fine and not destroyed.

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 2 года назад +1

      Eh since i’m rather fond of all the potential deformities that occur, and prefer seeing the xenomorphs as more of a natural if not grotesque race i’m not at odd with radiation doing things to them. Being resistant is fine enough but i’m sure generations and groups would be affected over long stretches of time.

    • @jimbowlan5804
      @jimbowlan5804 2 года назад

      I would think that since the hive was in the atmosphere processor the hive would be completely gone

  • @alexandriacollins7119
    @alexandriacollins7119 2 года назад +1

    It was, either, nuclear fallout that mutated/deformed the 'Raven', or WY scientists had experimented upon it into it's state in the events of 'Colonial Marines'.

  • @ByrneMJames
    @ByrneMJames 2 года назад +2

    Theme from frozen plays as the alien queen is revealed

  • @tombowman1521
    @tombowman1521 2 года назад +3

    I hate to throw water on your fire but I just watched ALIENS tonight and Hicks plainly states that the nuclear explosion of the atmosphere processor tower would leave a crater the size of Nebraska. So, unless this is in an alternate universe, Hadley's Hope at the end of ALIENS is nothing but ground zero of a very big hole in the ground of LV-426.

  • @smb275
    @smb275 2 года назад

    Definitely agree with you about Larroca.

  • @bperry573
    @bperry573 2 года назад +4

    I was watching this and didn’t realize it’s a new video…darn, that means it’s not out yet 😢

  • @queeffairy
    @queeffairy 2 года назад +3

    The new xeno reminds me of the toy I had as a kid it was a frosted blue that was sort of transparent. It would be neat if that was the inspiration for the new xeno.

  • @davidthomas9190
    @davidthomas9190 2 года назад +1

    The story that keeps giving 🙌

  • @brandonwachter2264
    @brandonwachter2264 2 года назад +2

    This Wachter approves 👍

  • @S-T-E-V-E
    @S-T-E-V-E 2 года назад +1

    I've yet to see the idea of Alien planet with enough time elapsed for Speciation to occur perhaps accelerated in the Xenomorph i.e. some would be herbivores, some carnivores, some would be aquatic, some would fly! I had hoped Ridley Scott would explore this in Covenant, David touched on it in his Lab but we didn't see much!

  • @koonjar
    @koonjar 2 года назад +1

    I just got this can’t wait to read it

  • @allenwood9967
    @allenwood9967 2 года назад +1

    Great to see more of your content again 😁🙌 have checked ok VK's channel.

  • @FelisDestructicus
    @FelisDestructicus 2 года назад +2

    Interesting how they made it look like a ghost, but with a reasonable explanation.

  • @glennspencer
    @glennspencer 2 года назад +3

    I’d love to see a Mac McDonald alien….from a Red Dwarf fan x

  • @auntrayjones625
    @auntrayjones625 2 года назад +1

    I gotta check this out!!!!!

  • @Tommykey07
    @Tommykey07 2 года назад +1

    I don't see how anything could have survived the blast.
    One idea I had in my head canon for an Alien 3 was for Hicks to go to the derelict Space Jockey ship to try to learn the origin of the aliens and then a mission to the apparent home world to exterminate them.

  • @Aaronwilliam
    @Aaronwilliam 2 года назад +1

    Please do more on different the research projects that took place on the cold forge

  • @Belisaur
    @Belisaur 2 года назад +1

    Definitely would like to hear more about the tracing issue

  • @peterechimi7646
    @peterechimi7646 2 года назад +1

    Xzenomorph looks great, we need more movies exploring the leftover disasters made previously

  • @LeeWalklin
    @LeeWalklin 2 года назад +2

    I'd like to see, 'the battle for Hadley's hope' the colonists fight with the xenomorphs... That would be an awesome comic, or even a movie 👍

  • @Darthhooktu
    @Darthhooktu 2 года назад +3

    Given the movie material noting the yield of the reactor explosion, there would be nothing left of Hadley's Hope. Perhaps some part of the derelict would survive but geez, 40 megatons with a 30km blast radius. I'm sure given the distance and the colony, it was within 30km. As well, if it was still there, there would be no need for Alien 3 and Weyland Yutani needing Ripley's genetic material. This to say, when it's expanded universe, writers can substantiate anything.

    • @EskoMorko_
      @EskoMorko_ 2 года назад

      The colony is located right next to it so it's "say good night" when the blast occurred.

  • @christopherdowning9382
    @christopherdowning9382 2 года назад +2

    I always imagined Ripley would have launched a nuke at the Derelict site from orbit before leaving in the Sulaco. Even though we didn't see it on screen, Ripley wouldn't have left any Aliens behind if she could help it.

    • @nickmullen2830
      @nickmullen2830 2 года назад +1

      Why would she have authorisation to fire. She would have to wake up Hicks to do that.

  • @cineffect
    @cineffect 2 года назад +3

    Hadley's gone, but we could still make Alien 3.5, Sulaco, although damaged could still orbit the Fiorina and maybe Hicks survived after all. What if Ripley was snatched away from the furnace in the last moment?

  • @jimmuscle2891
    @jimmuscle2891 2 года назад +1

    Well we've seen a Xenomorph in space and as everyone knows it's very cold in space...

  • @ReidGarwin
    @ReidGarwin 2 года назад +3

    Are they calling her "The Crystal Queen " by any chance? ;)

  • @vollsticks
    @vollsticks 2 года назад +2

    Man, I love Aliens: Earth War. John Bolton covers, Sam Keith art...great stuff
    EDIT: Can anyone remember the name of the Drak Horse Alien comic written by the amazing, transcendental underground cartoonist Jim Woodring? The artist is amazing on the project, I've read it a couple of times but need a copy of it...time to google I suppose...

  • @Sanzaru123
    @Sanzaru123 2 года назад +1

    i very much like this artstyle and have drawn my xenomorphs in this style in terms of shading, however it looks a littlebit off and thats because since its a glowing / white finished version and since its originally hand drawn as you would on traditional pencil and paper but being inverted and drawn along both bright and dark backgrounds the artist has forgotten to accommodate depth shading on the ridges particularly noticed on the heads side tubes as it crests under the head plate and other areas as seen on 5:08 where it comes off as looking like it was just put under a color inversion filter where at 4:57 it looks proper
    the artist just needs to touch it up and he would be one of the best in his craft for the comic line and would actually love to see his renditions of the yautja and in all honesty would entrust this man to do anything AVP related compared to what other disney artists have to offer. im very much looking forward to what this guy can do and cant wait to see more.

  • @sos_legio_primus9177
    @sos_legio_primus9177 2 года назад +1

    I think the fact that flushing them; into the near absolute zero temperature of space does not kill them or seem to affect them; at least in the first 2 films. Kinda answers the question of how Xenomorphs react and adapt to the cold. Not at all, and none needed; in that order. Well, that is my view on it.
    Mind you; though vacuums are excellent insulators as there is no medium for the heat or cold to transfer through.
    An unsuited human can survive up to 24 hrs in space before heat loss becomes a problem. So maybe in atmospheres' temperature adaptions and mutations might be needed.

  • @ZachBPresentz
    @ZachBPresentz 2 года назад +1

    I realize that your whole stick is Xenomorphs and Aliens etc. but it would be awesome if you found the time to make some more DC Comics-related content. That Superman series you did was phenomenal!

  • @PontiacBandit
    @PontiacBandit 2 года назад +2

    About to tune into the video.
    Update coming haha
    Update: Welp... I am liking the new comics perspective more and more everyday. I always wondered what had happened afterwards, finally knowing gives some peace of mind. I like it thus far... Also, thank you Alien Theory for help keeping the Alien lore alive!

  • @Casperski1312
    @Casperski1312 2 года назад

    Another A+ video, thanks Derek!
    Side note: If I ever finish my novel, I want you to narrate it 😅

  • @nevermindmyname9153
    @nevermindmyname9153 2 года назад +1

    I always wondered watching Aliens; How could a Ten Year Old survive ALONE for Nearly a Month AFTER the Colony went Dark. And whilst discussing it, someone on Facebook BLEW MY MIND with an Observation...Going by the FILMS ONLY;
    The Alien Gestation period (in the first two Films) is around a Day to a Day and a Half... Therefore; The woman in the Atmosphere Processor, who died in front of the Marines, had only just been caught in the past few days. Leading to the Conclusion..... Newt was only Alone a Couple of Days before the Marines Turned Up.

  • @captainarcher5205
    @captainarcher5205 2 года назад +1

    I love the idea that some xenomorphs survived the blast. That would’ve been a great plot point for a new Aliens movie. They’re like cockroaches, not even a nuke will kill them all.

  • @michaelinks5013
    @michaelinks5013 2 года назад +1

    Anything that connects to Ellen Ripley is a big thumbs up from me.

  • @AL4LVE79
    @AL4LVE79 2 года назад +2

    there was nothing left ... " a crater the size of Nebraska " the ship was in range ... NUKED FROM ORBIT 40 Megatons ... NOTHING LEFT .

  • @michaelvandermarliere7820
    @michaelvandermarliere7820 2 года назад +1

    Anyone would be nuts to go back there.

  • @GAMEBYTHEPOUND
    @GAMEBYTHEPOUND 2 года назад +1

    Bloomskamp vision seems like the only way to go forward with the franchise

  • @stueystyler
    @stueystyler 2 года назад +3

    I have a couple of thoughts. I think it’s important to point out that Benjamin Percy, the author, refers to this xenomorph variant as the “Atomic Alien” (see his Twitter and/or interview with the Perfect Organism podcast).
    I think the art is great and a HUGE improvement from the art featured in Alien: Bloodlines. Dave Wachter is very talented and his style reminded me of some of the artwork featured in Fire and Stone.
    I thought the story was pretty good. I found this Vasquez to be somewhat annoying, though. I also thought the choice to have another marine named “Drake” to be distracting; it felt a little forced.
    I also liked the references to Carter Burke and I found myself wanting to know more about “Subject Zero.”
    Overall, this one-shot left me wanting more and I hope we get more in the future.

  • @ProPatriaRO
    @ProPatriaRO 2 года назад +3

    40 megatons would have vaporized the processor and the complex.

  • @e4unow421
    @e4unow421 2 года назад +4

    Aliens Colonial Marines does not exist as far as I'm concerned.

    • @nevermindmyname9153
      @nevermindmyname9153 2 года назад +3

      Unfortunately we're not in charge of Canon... Otherwise Disney would be out of Business after Star Wars.

    • @filmbuff2777
      @filmbuff2777 2 года назад

      There are a lot of good things in it. It just needed a developer that gave a damn. Gearbox embezzled Sega's funding to put into Borderlands 2. Despite so many people "vowing" to never support Gearbox again after what they did, the sales of Borderlands 3 shows that gamers, & the industry, support Gearbox embezzling Sega's funding. With how arrogant these companies are, I guess they would have preferred it if in an alternate reality that Cameron's Aliens did NOT influence video games the way it did.