VW ID. Buzz vs Tesla Model Y: Is VW's reborn bus a Tesla-beater? / Electrifying
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When it comes to choosing a new car, do you let your heart rule your head or vice versa? The amazing new Volkswagen ID. Buzz is one of the most in-demand and desirable electric cars on the market. It creates a stir wherever it goes and has a two-year waiting list. But look at the Buzz’s figures, and they don’t really stack up against its main rival - the best-selling Tesla Model Y.
They cost the same to buy, but the VW has a worse range, is less efficient and considerably slower. On paper, it’s a clear loser when pitched head to head with the Tesla, which also boasts full access to the Supercharger network.
Join Nicki and Ginny as they pitch the two head-to-head. Which would you choose? Let us know in the comments below.
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I love MPVs so think the Buzz is great. Unfortunately it is so inefficient and so expensive, the looks just can't make up for those issues.
You could buy a used Model 3 and an e-Berlingo and scratch both itches and win
And not to forget the lousy VW software , capacitive buttons and terrible app.
It looks so good! The Y is boring but such a good car.
I think the outside looks ok, but the interior is abyssimal. I would tell the Skoda designer to make a real car of the Buzz and call it Skoda Evanne.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Hah, I've never been inside one!
The only thing that puts me off is the network, the buzz has dreadful range, making the network even more important...
If you are a 95% short drive family I'd say go for it, but if you travel 160+ miles it does get tricky, not impossibly tricky but its worth a consideration.
The other day we had my friends Tycan and we had to hunt for a working charger with 1% battery remaining it felt scary.
1% battery in an EV is not exactly the same thing as 1% on a smartphone
You can go a legitimately long distance on 5% battery charge in an EV. Whatever EV it is.
i have a buzz for commerical work and range is not a single issue. only people that never driven a proper EV complain about range or simply refuse to learn proper charging etiquette.
I think Range play a part to new EV owners..
Its a big bus, consumption is high compared to the rest, thus it costs more to run.
We have an Id3 and a Tesla, we always take the Tesla when we go on long trips/ abroad, as its hassle free, and while I drive both, the standard network just needs more planning, while the Tesla does not.
One thing to mention about the new Model Y: there are no parking sensors. This is due to be remedied when they eventually get Tesla Vision (camera-only parking aids) to work properly, but right now there are no audible parking aids on the vehicle. Even the Dacia Sandero Expression gets rear parking sensors, and that costs £45k less than the Model Y. Appalling
Are parking sensors the only and most significant feature you shop for?
@@Kenbark42 No. I’d also like suspension that isn’t made of concrete, headlights that don’t blind oncoming cars all the time, as well as ‘advanced’ features available in cars costing less than a quarter of the price, i.e. parking sensors.
@@SpenceW well with such specific demands, it sounds like you have fabricated a series of very specific requirements for a vehicle. Perhaps VW will be a perfect choice for you! Their cars hardly work, and will piss you off so much you won’t want to drive them. Enjoy
That Buzz looks more like a Playmobil toy than the actual Playmobil VW Van toy I had as a kid... And you can get a Model Y RWD with still more range and power than the Buzz for an even bigger €20k saving. It's amazing how much space that has for just €50k.
I'd take the Tesla all day long. Infrastructure, reliability, efficiency, tech and and and....
Up to 3 hour waits because of being oversubscribed in busy times at some chargers, infrastructure?
@@stevezodiac491 not at a Tesla charger yet, already at a public charger or it being Ice'd / not working
Infrastructure is moot. People charge at home 97% of the time. Tesla doesn't have the edge when there are 5 hour queues does it?
@@bodrulm1 what 5 hour queue? Also its case by case where charging is done
@@chargeheadsuk see the news. Tesla drivers in large snaking queues during this holiday season.
I wish I could afford either. I do wish a car manufacturer would build a stripped down electric car. I'm not bothered about screens in the cockpit or designer textured dash boards, I just want an electric car with enough room for my family and a decent range.
I work with OEMs, they can't outside of China. Batteries and motors are expensive so they need to absorb the cost of them in the profit margins of premium/luxury cars, they wouldn't make profit on a back to basics EV.
Hopefully you research the radiation levels in electric cars, which are unfortunately very high if you want to prevent cancer.
@@chippycut1406 That's a myth.
@@austinbeige No it's not. I've measure radiation levels in multiple Teslas. It's unsafe for adults, but especially kids.
Radition from what?
Y for the safety, software and the charge network! VW bus looks nice for a minivan.
You don't mention the amazing capability of the Model Y to switch from RHD to LHD... and change its number plates from UK to NL and back! (13:40, etc.)
That's the 007 version
It says „Activist“ 😂
haha
They are both fantastic. I agree with you, the Model Y makes more sense, but I love the Buzz so much. The Fisker Ocean might change things though
"The Fisker Ocean" 1: When will it be built for real? How much will it cost? Where are the service centers? Where do i get parts and Add-Ons? Where do i get winter tires? Where do i get information how to service the Fisker?
@@wolfgangpreier9160 well it’s already in production and you can order now. I’ve already had a look round, and it’s better built than either of these two.
You choose the Model Y with your head, You choose the ID Buzz with your heart
and you also can choose The Fisker Ocean with your imagination and bravery... and delusion.
@@stoner27th actually I choose the one with the most space. May as well go for an ID4 GTX
Fisker is unlikely to ever be built. Bankrupt 2023 or 2024 is the only question?
Love the design / colours of the ID Buzz, but I can't handle the small range and software issues. Tesla are just plain boring... Lack of colours and don't have a heads-up display. In balance I wouldn't waste my £60k+ on either....
So an mix of these 2 like the iD-Buzz body shell on top of the Tesla skateboard battery +electric motors it would be the most epic thing for the moment..
Happy New Year Everyone... !!!!
The people have spoken…and the model Y was a top seller in Europe in 2022 not only for electric vehicles but for ALL vehicles!!
1 year on & a bit of haggling.
The commerce plus made more sense.
DIY conversion in progress.
Bought one of the first delivered with only 4k on the clock.
Very pleased with the van.
As a camler & mobile storage, workshop it is ideal.
When I fit the pop up tent on the roof I will probably be sleeping in it @ home also.
Such a nice looking thing to be in.
Comfortable & roomy.
Sound system, lcd screens, fridge in the back.
Open the rear hatch & side doors. Lights on party in the driveway.
Sleepover in the roof tent.
I absolutely love it.
Charge over night @ home.
Caml site hook up & pitch.
Then off the following morning.
Trip to Cornwall was a hoot. Cars flashed & waved. People spoke to me in the car parks.
Never got that in most other cars I have had. Got used to operations OK. Can't see what the moans are about personally. I have bought an emergency spare & jack kit. Solar battery charger & off grid battery & inverter fo camping.
The buzz does come with a 300w inverter but Mine powers an air friar. The 12v system is good for the fridge though.
Terry.
A not so known factoid: Tesla has reworked the Y’s suspension 30 times since launch in 2020. Meaning, yes, the earlier builds do indeed ride too stiff, but the 2022 and especially now the latest ones, ride noticeably nicer, while still handling just as well. I am not sure if they also reworked the model 3 as such of as much, but probably.
If they have *really* reworked the suspension more than 30 times, they need to try again. My Model Y LR was delivered in Dec ‘22 and ride quality is terrible - harsh, noisy, uncomfortable. By contrast, my June ‘21 Model 3 LR is MUCH more comfortable, as well as handling better. If I was being generous, I’d score current Model Y ride quality at 3 out of 10. That’s appalling for a vehicle costing over £60k (US$80k equivalent)
@@SpenceW oh dang. Really? That’s disappointing to hear for sure. I haven’t tried any of the newer to compare but that’s what they been saying.
@@raheeb1 I got my Model Y in October '22 and it rides great. Mine was built in Giga Austin, so I wonder where Spencer got his from
my 22 Y was too stiff so i went for aftermarket coilovers, transforms thercar
@@bvzweig as he is quoting £'s it will be a Shanghai car
Objectively the range/charging/network alone give it to the Tesla, subjectively I think there is definitely a niche for the ID.Buzz' style (however I much prefer the Model Y appearance, I think it looks great!)
LOL... Model Y appearance, I think it looks great! - Tesla's are the most boring looking cars out there. (that cost over 40k)
Tesla chargers are open to others hello.
@@safercyclinguk not all... plus my comment is over a year old lol
@@djonharms I never said all, just others.
@@safercyclinguk you're arguing a point I made over a year ago lol...
Both a Tesla and VW van fan boy here.... well as much as I totally LOVE the iD buz the efficiency is where I lose total interest oh and the software/infotainment! Right now I'd buy the Tesla.
I doubt if Tesla had similar size van it wouldn't be much difference in efficiency.
I need to get my windsurfing equipment into the car. Not a chance in the Tesla. I can sleep in the Buzz, an awning in front and you can stand comfortably 1-2 weeks in a bay. Back to the roots ;) . And he also just caught me emotionally. In March mine should be delivered, after three years I'll get the longer version with larger battery and awd. I never smile at a Tesla, but about every buzz I encounter. Then I just need an hour longer for the distance on vacation.... a good price for a good mood. And in leasing, the Buzz is significantly cheaper for me than the Tesla!
By coincidence, I took my two teenage boys with me yesterday to test both these cars.
We loved the tech and cockpit of the Tesla, it drove beautifully BUT all three of us chose the Buzz asour favourite. There's much more personal space in the Buzz especially in the rear (important for the kids) and as said, made us feel happy.
Somehow, despite all the benefits of the Y, it was a more joyous drive and I'd like more joy rather than more efficiency in my life.
Hey Grant - any updates on how you are feeling now about the buzz? We are about to flip a coin to make our choice :)
@@peterharrison110 hi Peter, I ordered a first edition Buzz but after production changes, price rises and a poor finance offer I cancelled.
At that time Tesla offered zero percent finance on the Model 3, so that's what I'm driving now. I have no regrets.
It’s a really odd test comparing a van to a car. Different needs and a different customer base. Both are great, both are not comparable with each other.
In that respect yes, but they will be cross shopped in a market for those looking for 7 seats and electric mobility - or more likely half the marketplace for these cars would be for image and credibility, that makes the Buzz and Model Y cross-shop competitors of BMWs, Audi's, etc.
@@toyotaprius79 Outside of the EV space I’ve never known a VW Transporter people van to be compared with, for example, a Volvo XC-60, or similar.
I can see a huge potential in the market for the VW ID Buzz, but it’s more likely to be compared with a Vauxhall Vivaro-E Life or Mercedes eVito Tourer. These are like-for-like comparisons for customers.
Just my opinion, but it was my first thought.
Same Monday, similar core proposition…
I’d agree except the Buzz is just a big car with a big boot. Not a van, not a camper, not a 7 seater. I don’t really get it as a proposition - everyone that’s seen it wants an EV california or a 7 seater EV of which this is neither. You’re spending quite a bit more than an ID4 on an ID4 with a makeover
Not really as the Buzz is based on the same platform as the other ID cars, so more car with van body than traditional MPVs
This is an odd comparison and really only highlights the lack of EV models (this is changing quickly though!). Objectively the Y wins hands down for many more reasons than listed here. But if you want a van and not an SUV then that just doesn't matter. The Y was designed to appeal to the widest possible audience, whereas the Buzz is more of a niche vehicle like the Mini, which I'm sure will be reflected in the sales numbers (the Y is pretty much set to be the #1 selling vehicle in the world next year, and I doubt the Buzz will sell 1/20th the number of cars). The Y will also likely be coming down in price, widening the price gap. It's already pretty silly that the Y is such a better vehicle for less money than the Buzz.
I had a crew van before.
looked at both VW ID, bus and model Y,
I picked the model Y. Added a tow hook option, 4x carrier and trailer. I can carry more now than I could with the van.
I don't think I could fit a bike in the ID buzz.
I just got one, and you can fit 4 adult bikes just by removing the wheels, and in the rear without folding the seats :)
@@StefanoGirolimetto why not 6 if you take all the bikes apart? Maybe even 10 if you grind the bikes into dust?
A lot of bikes have a quick release for the front wheel. So it’s not a hassle.
I have yet to drive the Buzz, but I’ve driven the Y on British roads and the suspension is utterly appalling. It’s so harsh that it’s un-liveable and I’d never buy one for that reason alone. The rest is actually good, the Y is an excellent car.
The Buzz is just cool, but that infotainment is appalling. Wait for the Buzz refresh with updated tech, drive-train and battery.
Hopefully the Y gets air suspension and then becomes an option to drive on our terrible roads.
If you can put up with VW crap software.... and really bad range....
ID buzz,only EV that’s actually cool,Tesla’s are becoming a little common,a bit like Ford cortina’s we’re in Dagenham in the 70’s.
If Ford would introduce the e-Lightning to European market then it can be configured to match these EV's prices,
in lower PRO trim pack and that might be an even cooler option not just more practical but also with off-road ability,
If price is no problem then Rivian (R1T/R1S) or GMC Hummer EV (pick-up truck or SUV) would be the top dogs in EV sector..
Model Y all the way. It’s fun exciting. Safety is top notch. If your care about your family’s safety go with the one that will get them home.
Have eagerly anticipated the Buzz for years. Problem is, over those years so many more options are available now and more coming soon and not at $60k which is patently absurd for basically a minivan.
Credit for being an MPV, but discredit for being a VW.
Re: storage space, Tesla figures are completely out of whack because they ignore the parcel shelf. Other manufacturers measure up to the parcel shelf. There are direct comparison tests out there showing you can actually fit more in a Skoda Enyaq boot than you can in a Model Y. So comparing it to a Buzz based on Tesla figures is bonkers. Bjorn's banana box tests are instructive. With back seats up up he got 10 in an Enyaq, 9+1(frunk) in a Y and 30 in a Buzz. Yes, 30. Rich Symons has also done Enyaq v Y practicality comparisons showing the Enyaq is bigger.
Surprised this channel don't know this. Tesla's figures are misleading. They measure up to the ceiling/rear windscreen. They should perhaps trust their eyes a bit more?
Wow, these two are not in the same league... The VW is heavier, slower, more expensive, charges slower, has smaller boot capacity and was released years after the Tesla... Dr. Winterkorn said years ago that VW would manufacture electric cars which are twice better and cost half than the Tesla's... I'm wondering when VW is planning to do that. :-)
I have yet to find a Tesla with a 650 mile range, like my 2008 e class diesel ? If you ever do, tell me.
@@stevezodiac491 OK, will do. Please tell me when you need that 650 miles range. I'm asking because my diesel car has the same or slightly better range but I hardly ever need to use it.
Eh... smaller boot capacity?
@@evboy4287 late reply I know, but it's sloppy journalism to not realise Tesla (like prehaps Landrover) measure boot capacity to the ceiling, where as most manufacturers measure to the bottom of the rear window. Which as you can imagine is a fairly significant difference. So where the boot of the id Buzz is about 1120 liters, the boot of the Tesla will be about half that (excluding under-boot and frunk).
I wouldn’t buy either as they don’t meet my needs, but the Y can go in the bin purely on looks. I have more attractive margarine tubs!
Well, my 2016 e-Golf infotainment system hasn't crashed once, so there! :)
Good to see the magic VW figure generator is still working its tricks. That real world range and poor warranty rules it out. A 2 year wait, no thanks.
Hmmm looks matter and what a car makes you feel like .... So Tesla Y,3,X are boring and even ugly to make it efficient. I would get a BUZZ as a family car and live with its short coming plus better ride 😁
Lovely review. Just wondering if the Tesla Mode Y RWD wasn't a better fit for the comparison 🤔
The model Y long range is nearly £5k cheaper than this ID Buzz Style variant in the video
That's a 2021 Model Y. There have been multiple changes to improve both comfort over bumps and sound isolation. They have always been two of the biggest complaints, along with the build quality, which has also improved massively. I'm surprised no UK site has reviewed a newer Model Y.
The number plate on the vehicle states that it is a 72 plate !! hence late 2022🤔🤔
@@stevie007 That is the point; they did not mention how much the Y improved in a short time and continues to do so.
Just leased a fully loaded ID Buzz for half the price of a model y long range. They are totally different cars but couldn't resist that deal. Only a 2 year deal but pretty amazing value.
Team - can you please put up metric conversion footnotes?
I really had the impression they were more advanced with the metric conversions in the past, it’s like they’re all falling back into this medieval unit system. And if that’s their choice, fine, but then I demand to have the weight figures provided in stones as well please.
Model Y now starts at £44.990 in the UK (£52.990 for the long range)
Tesla price cuts make this comparison a no brained.
I think the ID buzz can fit bulkier items in the rear and I personally would wait for the larger 111kwh battery with AWD in my cold climate. To me, it comes down to price and range (to overcome rural living).
@@Moody_Blues_ Love your name! I’ve seen them live.
Yeah, I’d hope the DCFC speeds will be higher when it comes around and they can eek out more efficiency out of their drivetrain by the time it comes around. I’ve been watching the Buzz development for some time, but it’s more of a heart decision like they said in the video.
@@Moody_Blues_ The charging curve is actually better than most batteries. You would never start from zero. That would destroy the battery. So it would not be an hour of charging, even if the vehicle stopped completely.
@@therookienomore88 Charging is better on the ID Buzz than you might think. But if you have a 230-240 volt outlet, which you probably do if you live in Europe, then you will do well to charge at home.
The Buzz's boot is 1.581 liters, the Model Y's boot is only 854 liters. Both numbers are with the seats up and partial shelf removed. These people pulled numbers out of their asses.
@@Anonymous-sb9rr Yeah. Actual tests show the Buzz has twice as much cargo space as the Model Y.
Yh... bricks aren't very efficient. But I love ❤️ the look of the buzz!
Keep the speed under 65mph and air resistance is not that much of an issue, at 55 and lower it's not an issue at all.
I own a Tesla Model Y and love the car. But the appeal of the Buzz is undeniable. The only thing that would keep my from putting it in the garage next to my Tesla is the range. In the rural US you real need about 300 miles of range.
Tesla just needs to make an ID Buzz like shell for the Model Y skate board. Put a circle around the Tesla T badge and bingo.
From Canada...looks like buzz grl hates Tesla jus cuz its a Tesla! Y is tested n soaked than any other EV! Test drove Y other day, my wife fell in love with it and excited wht the car future looks like. Astonishing wht they have accomplished
How can you not even get the size of the battery correct for the model Y, as a channel that is devoted to EV's?
They changed batteries a long time ago, the current LR version is 82 kWh.
You could argue about kWh usable, but if the ID buzz is 77, then the model Y is 82.
The short range in the Buzz and long waiting times are a bit of a deal breaker. Also, not only was the Model Y cheaper already, but since this was published, Tesla has dropped its prices by 15%.
Drove both last week. Buzz was slow and boring to drive, Tesla blew it away in every aspect, other than the obvious loading capacity (tested cargo Buzz!)
I own an ID Buzz and love its very relaxed on road manners. It certainly doesn't need to be any quicker in my opinion, but I do have a 600 LT Spider and 718 Spyder tucked away in my garage which tick the entertaining drive box for me. .
They need to make a Buzz GTE!
@@JBthemanwithcars I think a dual motor Sportline version would be amazing. I currently drive a VW T6 4Motion and it’s mapped to 235bhp and the Buzz felt a bit slower.
Just for illustration, that 500 mi trip would take 200 kWh with the ID Buzz and 113 kWh with the Model Y.
I don't know what the price at rapid chargers in the UK is, but that is a saving of more than €50,= in the Netherlands using the Fastned chargers. Assuming 10k miles per year, that adds up to €1200,= per year.
As a Honda E owner , heart wins obviously the Buzz wins!
Both are too expensive... Not for me, but great video and channel 😊☺️☺️
Great ! I know the model y is boring but it is such a great car . We don;'t have the buzz in the US yet
Boring….until you drive it.
@@shou635 Great way to describe it. I call it the most fun soccer mom car 😅😅
A model Y 2022/2023 with 533km WLTP has a 79kWh battery. So it is not 2kWh smaller than the Buzz, but 2kWh larger.
I can understand why the buzz over the car.
But if I went for a van, it would be the new delivery van made by Rivian.
Now that would make the ideal camper van! Mmmm
Sadly, I won't ever be in the market for a car/van this expensive, but in the days of a post Musk Twitter world and Tesla's association (and it's stock taking a beating) - those factors alone would be enough for me to lean Buzz. The decision is already made without even watching the video comparing the two (though I will anyway!).
Wouldn’t believe everything you read about musk. Ignore the silly tweets he’s doing what any business leader would do to rescue a loss making company
It's really interesting you comment this as VW are one of the most indebted companies in the world at $166B in Sept 2022 and was set up by the Nazi's all those years ago, how quickly we forget...
Odd that people will reject Tesla because of Elon Musk but are happy to buy VW, a company associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazis
@@MrQwerty3000 well, to be fair, it became an even bigger loss making company since Elon and his ego took over the company. And quite a few of the tweets simply cannot be excused by “Ah well, that’s a CEO trying to do everything to salvage a los making company”.
@@marcd6897 No. Thats not true. Twitter may actually turn a profit in 2023. If that happens lots of people will be eating their hat. If you truly feel that politics is the primary factor in picking a car "That persons politics does not 100% align with mine..." then you are making a political mistake. Who founded VW again??
Great review, but I dont understand why you didn’t choose the Tesla Model Y RWD for the test. It’s still a lot faster than the VW, but a lot cheaper: the Tesla costs £45.000 (all options included) and the Buzz 1st edition £ 63.000. That difference makes these cars almost incomparible.
Yep the Tesla's look boring. Why I didn't buy one. Might be os-m but bland
Genuine question - how much does it cost to insure a 60 grand car?
Road noise in that Buzz is terrible at highway speeds. Impossible to talk with rear seat passengers.
I'll take Tesla cause VW have major software issue, however love the Buzz looks.
The Model Y LR have/is:
1. 27% more range
2. 2,5 x the horsepower
3. Better software
4. 17% cheaper
This isnt even a competition.
Great review from two lovely ladies.
It is so nice to hear a detailed and comprehensive review from a woman's point of view.
They point out important things that the men simply overlook.
Well done. Subscribed.
Model Y warranty is 4 years and 50,000 miles for the main car and 8 years or 120,000 miles for the battery and motors
The original 14:38 Car Manufacturers have to keep their original branding and style to keep their customers happy and different to its competitors , then make their cars Electic which is a tough ask … where as Tesla got a state of the art battery & drive train then built a new car on top with new technology….. so the future could be Google, Apple etc cars which have no limitations…whilst Merc , BMWs & alike have to look a certain way …
It is misleading to compare the battery size in these two vehicles without also comparing the overall efficiency (measured in watt-hours per mile). Efficiency also affects charging time. An EV with less efficiency will take longer to charge to the same number of miles than an EV with more efficiency. There is a glaring error at 4:32... the Model Y most certainly does have window switches, located on either door armrest. Likewise with the seat adjustment controls, which are located on either front seat. Steering wheel and outside mirror adjustments are made with scroll wheels located on the steering wheel.
70k for a minivan. With a relatively small range. Hmm.. ID buzz would be nice. If priced below 40K.
Why don't they talk about building quality ? What car last for 20 years ? The buzz has more practical place.
Model Y suspension is very firm, you can understand but I would like to see air suspension like in model S&X but overall I love my model Y, it is a iPad with wheels.
how to skip the point it hasn't 3 full rear seats... how they could put the same seat bank like in an ID4.... 3 single seats like in the Touran or T6 would have been perfect
Very odd how the rear passenger windows on the Buzz aren’t operable 🤔
awwwhh thats annoying
Buzz looks great but performance not great , biggest problem apart from the software is how to get one
Great for carrying mountain bikes around, its the buzz for me.
The appearance of the Tesla Model 3 & Y remind me of the Chrysler Neon I had 15 years ago.
Heart or head, if you can’t buy the car it doesn’t matter how you decide. I’ve wanted a buzz for a few years, but have a Y standard range as the two tested are too expensive for me.
We’d trade in our SR model Y in a heartbeat. With cheap power in Australia, range is important, efficiency is irrelevant. The tech in Y is often more annoying than it is innovative.
In this day and age its not about speed its more about how much its weight is and how and how far it will go as well as the tesla network of chargers if you had the option for both of these I the TESLA every time.
Honestly VW should launch their diesels again. Got 830 miles range on one tank, three minutes charge time! Incredible vehicles that electric can't match. They are clean despite what was said if you actually understand science. 10x cleaner than Tundra for example.
Most important and often overlooked is the American and EU safety rating on the Model Y ranks it tops in safety around the world. Speaking of family and children traveling in both EVs this is probably why I made the decision to buy Tesla over any other. My family and kids safety beats out over any other aspect of owning a vehicle. Toodles
2 year wait for VW? 3 year warranty for VW?!
Just had a purchasing conversation with VW rep in UK. 18-24 months wait for a green two tone at over £65000. Can only place £19000 deposit for PCP with a £38000 bubble payment on 3 years contract. That implies that in 5 years time VW believe that this car will still bed worth about £40000 ! Seriously ? In 5 years time the 210 miles range and out of warranty (3 years for car ) ! Heart over head ? On both counts this car is just too expensive, too late and too inefficient. I feel VW are fleecing us both emotionally and financially. Needless to say my dream of owning one of these babies stops here. 😢 VW Buzz is a cynical bit of marketing.
@@Banyan314 Well said. I am no Tesla fan-boy, but so many Tesla killers are just vapor-ware. Even Rivian is a year wait or longer. If the car can't be had before 2024 then don't even bother to review it, please.
Love the channel but I’d rather see comparisons of cars that people are actually going to cross-shop
I would choose the Buzz in a heartbeat, when I sat in one it just put a huge smile on my face. A hugely practical family vehicle and a van when you need to go to the tip
It looks like such a fun car - we don't have it in the US yet
@@thatevchick you are going to get the big battery long wheel base version, I’m sure it will do well in the US
A huge dumb clown smile
Interesting comparison! I couldn’t buy the Tesla, it just doesn’t feel like it’s worth the money. No mention made in the review of Tesla material and build quality which are really poor..
The Buzz is a complete disappointment on so many levels, but the nostalgia will be the main reason someone buys one likely because it reminds them of their youth. Their might be light at the end of the tunnel and they fired the head of VW design and replaced them with the head of Porsche design so hopefully version 2.0 will improve on so many levels including the marmite looks.
The ID just goes to show how expensive the Tesla Y is. It looks like a car that has been built to the lowest price possible.
what's under the pretty shell is where Tesla has spent the real money, with real results.
Tesla indeed looks cheap. Cabin is no frills. it doesn't justify it's price. Worse still, it's a ubiquitous car and who wants to drive something everyone has.
@@bodrulm1 What car do you drive that nobody else has?
So glad I'll never have to drive a model Y again. Looks like a 90's Pontiac before they went bankrupt. Yikes.
Remember, you cant get an id without major software problems.. yaik.. of course i would go with the Tesla.. even if it was twice the price
I cant help thinking whos paying the bills in the mainstream media..👍🇳🇴
Both bargains on lease, got a buzz life coming soon for not much as 2nd car, ipace going out afer long lease may go model y along side the buzz. Problem solved lol But the buzz is clearly more practical as well as a bit more special?
Tesla has essentially become the new common "peoples car" (Volks Wagen), all the looking the same with few options to stand apart and all offering a good bang for the buck after price cuts
So the new + for legacy is that the infotainment does not crash :)))
If you just have to sit in it, look at it and pack stuff in the back, the Buzz is great. But if you want to drive it over long distances, not so much. And usually family Vans/SUVs are bought for that.
The enormous consumption of the Buzz is not only terrible for range but also an economic factor with rising electricity prices.
For me the Buzz is THE EV that we’ve been waiting for: just try to fit 3 full size child seats in the Tesla…
The Buzz is the ONLY electric car which allows a young children power 3 to travel together, and that’s unfortunately how we can choose our next EV, which in a way is not so bad ‘cause we love it’s design!❤
You do know that the Tesla has a 7 seater that you could very easily fit 4 large child seats in right?
@@Kenbark42 Yes, I do. However, what a hassle to buckle up 4 times a day munimum the kid on the back, plus where do you fit the luggages when traveling? ;-)
Buzz is useless until,the 7 seater version is released, should pick id4 or id5, it if you have the money go for the Y
The id4 is inefficient and bad enough without putting a bus on that platform. Definitely would go with the Y and would pay more to do it. The id4 doesn’t have battery preconditioning and slow charges in the colder temps
Buzz definitely wins in looks. It is basically an ID4 van though. heart over head definitely. Efficiency is definitely why the USA is getting the long wheelbase.
Aren't these cars very very different types of cars? I would compare the ID.4 with the MY.
The Buzz seems to be a nice car, but the highway range is just not practical.
Don't understand how anyone can be a "VW fan-boy/fan-girl", they were literally the automaker of Hitler and then did Dieselgate? Why does everyone ignore that, it's bizarre to me
I’m a huge Tesla fanboy, yet I’m also a huge VW camper van fan, of which this will become in one of its many guises. The ‘ICE’ versions of the VW vans were also very inefficient so this battery version follows suit and therefore I can’t see putting people off……..
As for my choice? I’m completely torn as my heart loves both…….
Well you cannot get an ID Buzz... so that might make it easier. Now if we are talking imaginary ownership... then sure.
I wish the Buzz was great, but it just falls FAR too short compared to what you get with the Tesla.
But my preferred news source told me that Elon Musk is an evil man. VW wasn't founded by Hitler or anything, unlike Tesla.
I’ll wait for the 7 seater longer range ID Buzz. Till the. It’s still not as practical as my previous Seat Alhambra.
I have driven both and the Tesla was... well, frankly boring - the Buzz, on the other hand, is everything I want from a car, when it comes to vehicle layout, use of space and driving experience. 0-60 times and top-speed s are quite irrelavant in the real world. Having good visibility and being able to easiliy fit a mountainbike is way more important. MPVs just make more sense. Shame it was a bit compromised , though. I guess you'd better buy the re-freshed version in a few years time instead.
Buzz needs bigger battery. 600km would be a better selling point
Buzz with Tesla drivetrain and tech would be a killer product.