John Adams Continental Congress and Edward Rutledge

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  • Опубликовано: 19 фев 2009
  • Edward Rutledge emphatically disagrees with John Adams
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  • @augustuslxiii
    @augustuslxiii 12 лет назад +796

    "We will not vote for independence, Mr. Adams. Not now, not... until... SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR!"

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 4 года назад +16

      " Our new Country needs a summer holiday; lest there will be no holiday between #DecorationDay and Labour Day " 😛

    • @alexanderhayward8505
      @alexanderhayward8505 2 года назад +4

      He even tells Adams in a later scene that South Carolina was never actually opposed to independence.

    • @RoadmanRob8
      @RoadmanRob8 2 года назад +10

      You’ve got to remember the colonists were not the usual British cast offs like crooks or poor people who went everywhere else in the British empire. They were proper English folk who just wanted to be English somewhere else. I personally think what really turned the tide was Canada. When the British received it in the peace settlement with France. They started making new rules for them. I think the colony’s felt betrayed. A bit like when a wife finds out there husband is in a relationship with someone else. They think they are exclusive.

    • @Therightisright
      @Therightisright 2 года назад +2

      Gave me a good chuckle with this one

    • @codyrodgers6426
      @codyrodgers6426 Год назад

      @@cornusia Britain didn't have enough support from the loyalist who were vastly outnumbered by the patriots.

  • @fubaralakbar6800
    @fubaralakbar6800 5 лет назад +1094

    "We will not vote for independence Mister Adams!" --South Carolina, first to secede from the Union.

    • @ReformedSooner24
      @ReformedSooner24 5 лет назад +76

      Fubar AlAkbar
      Ironic isn’t it?
      They voted to do so TWICE

    • @austinpairsc
      @austinpairsc 4 года назад +49

      @@ReformedSooner24 You could really say 3 times. They'd formed a new legislature in Charlestowne and declared independence in December 1719 from their rulers (Lords' Proprietors). They after convinced George I to adopt SC as a royal colony.

    • @jarrodmurdock5689
      @jarrodmurdock5689 4 года назад +15

      Ironic, considering South Carolina declared independence and formed its own new constitution in March 1776.

    • @JuricksEnterprise
      @JuricksEnterprise 3 года назад +32

      Agreed, South Carolina was always the problem child through the Civil War (John C. Calhoun was a particular Bastard!) and then General Sherman came in for payback!

    • @JuricksEnterprise
      @JuricksEnterprise 3 года назад +12

      @@Spindacre Calhoun was an ass!

  • @rickwillard2002
    @rickwillard2002 8 лет назад +1086

    The good people of my class still discuss Edward Rutledge's hand wave.

  • @blu7855
    @blu7855 7 лет назад +725

    if they had air conditioning back then, they wouldnt have been so angry i think

    • @EmilioReyes_97
      @EmilioReyes_97 5 лет назад +104

      Maybe thats what congress needs, less comfort to get things rolling

    • @ReformedSooner24
      @ReformedSooner24 5 лет назад +41

      Emilio Reyes
      Honestly yeah. I think that should extend to their private life. They should all have to live on a big facility away from any major city. Basically it should be like a military base, but for the Legislature. They shouldn’t be getting such fat paychecks either. Overall make it a position of service, not an elite ruling class.

    • @revo1974
      @revo1974 4 года назад +9

      FrontLineTexan 21 Or maybe if their paychecks were fatter they would be less inclined to do the bidding of the corporate owners?
      There are very few men and women of principle entering politics these days.

    • @ShamanMcLamie
      @ShamanMcLamie 4 года назад +10

      Being half drunk all the time probably didn't help either.

    • @ReformedSooner24
      @ReformedSooner24 4 года назад +6

      revo1974
      By making it a position of service you still make it so more people who actually have some principles come in. Again make it a position of service. Make it uncomfortable like it was back then.

  • @gracemorey9226
    @gracemorey9226 9 лет назад +615

    is no one gonna talk about that sassy hand flip at the end? honestly my favorite part of that whole movie is that 2 second hand flip

    • @tavingtonloverforlife23inl2
      @tavingtonloverforlife23inl2 8 лет назад +40

      You mean miniseries

    • @IronMan-tk8uc
      @IronMan-tk8uc 7 лет назад +37

      Gay fashion and mannerisms in colonial times.

    • @KiloByte69
      @KiloByte69 6 лет назад +12

      You would think he of all people would be delighted to join arms with the dandy boys in France.

    • @Rikard_A
      @Rikard_A 6 лет назад +1

      Grace Morey 200 years without a King or Queen and US is still oppresive.

    • @ctrain149
      @ctrain149 6 лет назад +22

      Oh shut it. You've never lived under any real oppression

  • @lucakrokrowinkel9576
    @lucakrokrowinkel9576 2 года назад +250

    I love that guy screaming back "FRANCE!?".
    One of the most britain things an american has ever done.

    • @vinnynj78
      @vinnynj78 Год назад +3

      I'm guessing he also didn't want the Irish

    • @szahmad2416
      @szahmad2416 Год назад +11

      And the look on Ben Franklin's face was priceless too, after Adams said France.

    • @Agent1W
      @Agent1W 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@szahmad2416 "Trust the French." --Benjamin Martin

    • @mauricio460
      @mauricio460 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@szahmad2416 A look of "I knew this was a bad moment for this proposition"

    • @jcharlescarroll
      @jcharlescarroll 2 месяца назад

      ​@@vinnynj78insert Blazing Saddles quote here

  • @pieceofschmidtgamer
    @pieceofschmidtgamer 3 года назад +159

    "We will not vote for independence Mister Adams! Not now, NOT EVER!" Mr. Rutledge disagreed... calmly.

    • @Agent1W
      @Agent1W 10 месяцев назад +3

      Then his left hand sprang up and took life of its own as the rest of Rutledge's body turned away and ushered his decided spirit out and away from all of John Adams' consideration. In spirited convulsions of something like the demoniac, the hand would have had more to say whilst listening not, like an angered headmaster towards an insolent student.

  • @870Rem12gauge
    @870Rem12gauge 6 лет назад +258

    Adams, though a determined patriot, had an abrasive approach, and that worked both for him, and against him throughout his career.

    • @scottaznavourian5791
      @scottaznavourian5791 5 лет назад +22

      Sometimes it helps to be abrasive when dealing with idiots

    • @EmilioReyes_97
      @EmilioReyes_97 5 лет назад +15

      Ironic seeing as how his cousin was the one who started the Boston Tea Party

    • @jgrj52
      @jgrj52 4 года назад +9

      It helped him with the dutch

    • @Wayoutthere
      @Wayoutthere 3 года назад +9

      @@jgrj52 I can confirm they instantly respect you when you are DIRECT AF in your questions.

    • @shogan8460
      @shogan8460 2 года назад +7

      People with characters similar to Adams don't often get appreciation for their service, public or otherwise, because of the brusque, direct mannerism is disliked.

  • @connormcmurphy4276
    @connormcmurphy4276 4 года назад +434

    I love when Adams is asked who will join them in this "folly" to which he proclaims "France!"...and the expression on ben Franklin's face lmao the pursed lips and exascerpated look of "okay, well, don't go about it like that, John ".

    • @MrMikado282
      @MrMikado282 4 года назад +107

      The entire fight for everything the Continental Congress does, Jefferson stays silent or makes a very clear thought provoking point, Ben says something that makes everyone laugh and realize he's right, Adams says something that may be true or false in such a way as to piss off everyone in a 5 mile radius.

    • @ItsVinnyBoy
      @ItsVinnyBoy 2 года назад +12

      Mr Adams would make us French subjects!

    • @bobsnow6242
      @bobsnow6242 2 года назад +17

      It was a pretty bold play by Adams. Many of these men fought against or fled from the French in what was essentially a war of existential importance just over a decade prior, and many still clung to their national identity as Englishmen, albeit disaffected ones. To suggest that France would be the savior of their cause would be tantamount to a modern-day American dissident calling upon Russia to help overthrow the US government.

    • @javaelamar9629
      @javaelamar9629 Год назад

      ​@@bobsnow6242 johjv40

    • @mizar010
      @mizar010 Год назад +1

      @@MrMikado282 Well, Adams is from Boston

  • @typo1345
    @typo1345 3 года назад +61

    0:11
    I love that they kept Franklin's smartass humorist side

  • @charleslemos5833
    @charleslemos5833 9 лет назад +120

    Edward Rutledge does steal the scene. Great acting.

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 4 месяца назад

      The actor is Clancy O'Connor. He hasn't done much since he was an understudy for a Broadway show in 2014.

  • @caitsidhe
    @caitsidhe 12 лет назад +29

    Edward Rutledge of South Carolina (wealthy Southerners wore brighter clothing, elaborate wigs, and adopted European mannerisms), was a British-trained lawyer, described by Dr. Hall of GA (iirc) as having a "very nasal voice, like New Englanders when they sing hymnody." His opposition, having been overridden, Rutledge went on to serve his new country with distinction. He was 26 at the time of the Continental Congress.

  • @roba1899
    @roba1899 2 года назад +55

    "The question is not whether by a, by a, Declaration of Independence that should make something of us that we are not .. but whether we should declare a fact, something that already exists" ~ Benjamin Franklin

    • @dodoria19
      @dodoria19 2 года назад +6

      I loved this passage!

    • @souperstar7050
      @souperstar7050 Год назад +3

      Yes, Ben Franklin said this in the John Adams miniseries.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 Год назад

      The first time Franklin spoke what he thinks and believes.❤️

  • @tribefan9112003
    @tribefan9112003 4 года назад +43

    Ironic how Tom Wilkinson played General Cornwallis, commanding the British Army in 'The Patriot' and then turns around and becomes Benjamin Franklin here.

    • @DARisse-ji1yw
      @DARisse-ji1yw 2 года назад

      Not sure it's ironic, but interesting...

    • @johnweber4577
      @johnweber4577 6 месяцев назад

      @@DARisse-ji1yw I'd say it's amusing more than anything.

  • @TubeRJF
    @TubeRJF 3 месяца назад +3

    At the very end, Rutledge makes the gesture, "Talk to the hand!" LOL

  • @folklore19
    @folklore19 13 лет назад +164

    Ladies and gentlemen, our Founding Fathers
    Truly God blessed America, because there is no other explanation for us getting passed the Second Continental Congress.

    • @dreamtheater6343
      @dreamtheater6343 3 года назад +21

      To Quote Ben Franklin: "God Bless King George, for only he could cause so much unity amongst us."

    • @AnselmsAlwaysAccurate
      @AnselmsAlwaysAccurate 2 года назад +5

      @@dreamtheater6343 I once saw someone on Twitter state that it was amazing that Americans can come together every 4th of July to celebrate despite being so divisive year-round.
      My response? Of course because no matter what we could be, better than being England 😂😂😂

    • @cpj93070
      @cpj93070 11 месяцев назад

      @@AnselmsAlwaysAccurate Better than being England? you were all English decedents yourselves back then including your founding fathers, it was a civil war you were fighting.

  • @petermoriarty6309
    @petermoriarty6309 2 года назад +11

    Ironic that South Carolina said “We will not vote for independence, not now, not ever”

  • @stainless211
    @stainless211 4 года назад +22

    I came here for the hand wave at the end

  • @inui1536
    @inui1536 15 лет назад +39

    All the Congress scences are the best! I love Rutledge and the little wave he does at the end!!

  • @goodgirlkay
    @goodgirlkay 7 лет назад +89

    The stench in that room....OH MY GOD!

    • @thedoctor7784
      @thedoctor7784 4 года назад +13

      No deodorant!

    • @taegotkash
      @taegotkash 4 года назад +8

      Y’all have to realize we’ve lived longer without all this crap we have now than we have for the last 150 years. There’s nothing wrong with that

    • @mrbrainbob5320
      @mrbrainbob5320 4 года назад +5

      @@taegotkash um no in those time dying by your 40-50 was considering of old age and pretty normal.

    • @30AndHatingIt
      @30AndHatingIt 4 года назад +5

      @@mrbrainbob5320 Having watched multiple family members get so old they forget who the fuck they are... dying at 40-50 would be a fucking blessing. Sign me up.

    • @justinpinard6434
      @justinpinard6434 4 года назад +14

      @@mrbrainbob5320 That's not actually true. Prior to the Industrial Revolution, the average lifespan was in the 50s or so because of the high frequency of stillbirths and fatal illnesses at incredibly young ages. If you made it past that, you had a good chance of at least making it to your 60s.

  • @Dumpstermuffin1
    @Dumpstermuffin1 8 лет назад +94

    that "thug life" hand flip at the end

  • @iosaturnalia
    @iosaturnalia 11 лет назад +47

    He had a wife, so probably not. But oh my GOD is he sassy.

  • @IronMan-tk8uc
    @IronMan-tk8uc 7 лет назад +104

    As much I support Adams in this scene, imagine yourself in the 18th century with no possibility of contacting your possible ally (France), that if they want to enter in a war with Britain about a bunch of colonies in the East Coast of North America? Pretty worrisome and vague to the other members of congress, at best.

    • @KiloByte69
      @KiloByte69 6 лет назад +6

      They were already at war.

    • @manco828
      @manco828 5 лет назад +13

      Bruh, they just needed to get on Facebook Messenger.

    • @Shatamx
      @Shatamx 4 года назад +7

      Considering George Washington alone killed many french men just a few years back as Lieutenant Colonel for his Majesty.

    • @odysseusrex5908
      @odysseusrex5908 2 года назад +1

      Well, of course, at this point France was already providing us with what would today be called covert aid.

    • @dclark142002
      @dclark142002 2 года назад +2

      ...especially considering the fact that France had been the mortal enemy of these colonies (particularly the New England and Middle colonies) for the previous few decades.

  • @rocketman544
    @rocketman544 12 лет назад +81

    "France."
    "FRAAAANCE?!?!?"

    • @marcmarc8524
      @marcmarc8524 4 года назад +5

      rocketman544. Well, yeah, France.

    • @RedCard94
      @RedCard94 3 года назад +11

      Mr. Adams would make us FRENCH subjects, then!

    • @spasjt
      @spasjt 3 года назад +1

      England is our common enemy, sir.

    • @typo1345
      @typo1345 3 года назад +2

      @@KT-vk1bw beat me to it

  • @swordarmstudios6052
    @swordarmstudios6052 2 года назад +10

    This mini-series was fantastic.

  • @Maino88
    @Maino88 4 года назад +25

    The oldest signer of the Declaration of Independence was Benjamin Franklin. There are now 24 counties named Franklin in the United States.
    The youngest signer, at age 26, was Edward Rutledge of South Carolina. There are no counties named Rutledge.

    • @jamesperryii9994
      @jamesperryii9994 4 года назад +6

      Well, I mean, look at their achievements and personality. Little is taught about Mr. Rutledge's opposition in the early days of the war to the end of his political career. Franklin did more and was talked about his the highest regard everywhere.

    • @Nebulasecura
      @Nebulasecura 2 года назад +4

      To be fair South Carolina historically speaking always has been somewhat rebellious, threatened to secede in 1832 before they actually did it in 1861

  • @8mmkyle865
    @8mmkyle865 2 года назад +29

    Ironic that Adams suggested asking the French for aid when there's probably no one else in that room that detests the French more than Adams himself.

    • @LaughingOwlKiller
      @LaughingOwlKiller 2 года назад +11

      True...but Enemy of my Enemy and all that. The French were a Superpower with enough military might to match and even outclass England...and they would jump at any chance to strike a blow to their power.

    • @cpj93070
      @cpj93070 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@LaughingOwlKiller All well and good, France did beat Britain in the revolutionary war, but Britain would get their revenge when they took down Napoleon.

    • @Agent1W
      @Agent1W 10 месяцев назад

      @@cpj93070 Who? That nobody nobleman in Corsica? That guy?! He'll never be anything.

    • @Riley_Mundt
      @Riley_Mundt 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Agent1W*Corsican Emperor Noises*

  • @AbrahamLincoln4
    @AbrahamLincoln4 4 года назад +31

    Adams was right.

  • @duckhunt1058
    @duckhunt1058 3 года назад +24

    After reading 1776 and John Adams by David McCullough . John Adams is by far my favorite President and founding father of our country. We were a breath away from losing the war for Independence it is amazing that we won. We had ordinary men do extraordinary feats of courage and ingenuity.
    These men here changed the course of history in the world at that time as no nation as the United States ever existed in history. An amazing time to be alive although not at that time only as the centuries have passed do we see the daring action they set us upon. I would not like to imagine had our Revolution had not gone the way it did. The world would be a different place.

    • @Malbeefance
      @Malbeefance Год назад

      And, now, in this most desperate of times do we once again need patriots of this caliber to fight back against the neo-nazis globalists and their leftist minions. Unfortunately, no such genes seem to remain among us.

  • @lindasilva2004
    @lindasilva2004 8 лет назад +51

    Dat hand flip doe

  • @Fromard
    @Fromard 4 года назад +12

    2:29 "Bye Felicia" wave.

  • @SputnikCrisis
    @SputnikCrisis 11 лет назад +48

    1:19 . . . France. "FRANCE!!!!!" "FRANCE!!!!!" "AH NAH NOT FRANCE" "OH HELL NO NOT FRANCE" "ANYTHING BUT FRANCE"

    • @marcmarc8524
      @marcmarc8524 4 года назад

      Sam H. Any alternative? No? So it’s France! If the French are ok.

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 4 года назад +3

      1:19 - You're welcome

    • @michaelhennesy2934
      @michaelhennesy2934 4 года назад +4

      John Adams knew the French hated the British more than they did so it was an excellent suggestion.

    • @Shatamx
      @Shatamx 4 года назад +2

      Old comment but I laugh thinking George Washington was like "France, shit hope I don't have to talk to anyone that knew all the Frenchmen I killed a few years ago.."

  • @thewhistleking2
    @thewhistleking2 3 года назад +8

    Loving that sassy little hand wave in the end

  • @xcalabur18
    @xcalabur18 8 лет назад +146

    2:29- "So long, gay boys!"

    • @ReformedSooner24
      @ReformedSooner24 4 года назад +5

      xcalabur18
      Ironic because I think he actually was gay. I may be wrong on that one though.

    • @BradyPostma
      @BradyPostma 4 года назад +2

      @@ReformedSooner24 The actor was. Is.

    • @JENDALL714
      @JENDALL714 3 года назад +2

      @@ReformedSooner24 The term was "Dandy" in those days. The first bicycle was called a Dandy Horse, because it was only the rich effeminate Dandy boys that could afford one.

  • @Studentofgosset
    @Studentofgosset 7 лет назад +50

    Anyone else hear the buzzing fly whenever that sweaty dude speaks?

    • @EpopeeYoustyle
      @EpopeeYoustyle 7 лет назад +1

      Studentofgosset i did

    • @ciptosetyopramudi1910
      @ciptosetyopramudi1910 7 лет назад

      This mоviе is nоw available to waаtch here => twitter.com/bb98a4a7af3bb9092/status/795841266034438144 Joooohn Adams Cоntinental Congress and Edward Rutlеdgee

    • @connormcmurphy4276
      @connormcmurphy4276 4 года назад

      Ben Franklin you mean?

  • @The_Daily_Tomato
    @The_Daily_Tomato 13 лет назад +15

    And if no alliance comes what then sir? Then so be it. So be it!!?
    Love that line :D

  • @gasaholic47
    @gasaholic47 8 лет назад +43

    Rutledge was a preening peacock, but even he had no choice to come around in the end. Of course, it cost us the possibility of ending slavery, right then and there...

    • @davidhenrylake2047
      @davidhenrylake2047 5 лет назад +7

      @Sturgeon So did North Carolina.
      Doctor Thomas Hall, however, did not own slaves and didn't believe it had value. Georgia, for a good 60 years, actually refused endorsing slavery as an economical means.

    • @richardmalcolm1457
      @richardmalcolm1457 4 года назад +8

      I doubt there was any realistic chance to do *that* in 1776.

    • @odysseusrex5908
      @odysseusrex5908 2 года назад +2

      That possibility never existed. Don't take the musical 1776 as history. The South was united against the slavery passage and it was removed with no fuss.

    • @FanimusMaximus
      @FanimusMaximus 2 года назад +1

      As I understand it many who appalled slavery wrote the Declaration, or the Constitution with Emancipation in mind. Problem was unity and independence was the more important matter for the colonies at the time.

    • @humansvd3269
      @humansvd3269 2 года назад

      @@davidhenrylake2047 And yet, Sherman some 80 years later would burn it to the ground.

  • @zyzor
    @zyzor 10 лет назад +21

    It is my only hope that the freedom so dearly bought by the blood of the revolution will not be squandered by future generations.

    • @tackyman2011
      @tackyman2011 4 года назад +3

      And how's THAT working out for us now?

    • @tromboneman4517
      @tromboneman4517 3 года назад +1

      We gave up our freedoms for a fake virus. So we done f’ed up.

    • @kevingilligan139
      @kevingilligan139 3 года назад +1

      @@tromboneman4517 Which freedoms would you be talking about? Like, the freedom to be dead?

  • @jgesselberty
    @jgesselberty 11 лет назад +197

    Good grief. Rutledge was a southern aristocrat. He was from a privileged class and had wealth. It showed in his dress and mannerisms, which were not gay, but arrogant and confident at the same time. You cannot judge the refinement of hundreds of years ago by your phobic interpretations of today.

    • @hernanlope2475
      @hernanlope2475 6 лет назад +16

      Actually, the actor playing it is openly gay, so.

    • @davidhenrylake2047
      @davidhenrylake2047 5 лет назад +48

      @@hernanlope2475 That's not the issue. He was acting like an 18th century, Irish-Scotch aristocrat, you fool.

    • @michaelhennesy2934
      @michaelhennesy2934 4 года назад +8

      South Carolina was slow to come around because they didn't want to rock the boat and all the trade with England . Plus many had land grants from the King . There were many loyalists in SC and the British Army had not marched in like they had in Boston .

    • @andrewroberts7428
      @andrewroberts7428 4 года назад +9

      (waves hand saucily in agreement)

    • @kamtheman106
      @kamtheman106 4 года назад +1

      Michael Hennesy And once the British DID march in? SC came scurrying along and joined the fight like everyone else - just MUCH later than they needed to. They were basically the Freys of the American Revolution. They were also the first to secede later on. Buncha fucking sNoWFLaKeS, if you ask me.

  • @alaskaforever3879
    @alaskaforever3879 2 года назад +3

    1:26 I love how he looks so happy the background with his quip that got everybody going

  • @kongfeet81
    @kongfeet81 Год назад +3

    *I DIDN’T GET A HARUMPH OUT OF THAT GUY!*

  • @bridgecross
    @bridgecross 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ben Franklin: "Mr. Adams is right! Let us send an envoy to King Louis while our affairs wear a hopeful aspect"
    Ben Franklin [sotto voce]: "I nominate Ben Franklin to go to Paris"
    Ben Franklin [sotto voce]: "Second!"

  • @vertrand8640
    @vertrand8640 6 лет назад +12

    Rutledge was /our guy/.

  • @Luboman411
    @Luboman411 2 года назад +13

    The colonies had just gone through a fear of French invasion from Canada in the Seven Years War that ended only in 1763. So that guy shouting "Mr. Adams would make us French subjects" was not far off the mark. The colonies were weak and France was strong, a mere 15 years earlier having posed a grave threat to the existence of the colonies as English-speaking, Protestant jurisdictions. Only the might of the British Empire kept the French in check by running them out of Canada. Thus the threat of French invasion and conquest was not to be taken lightly in 1775 and 1776 if it were only the weak colonies keeping French military and naval power in check...

  • @BryonLetterman
    @BryonLetterman Год назад +3

    I wish Congress was still like this.

  • @KiraKirin
    @KiraKirin 11 лет назад +7

    The defining moment of this scene is the guy who walks out of the room, twinkling his fingers like a.... .

  • @urbanr0cker
    @urbanr0cker 12 лет назад +20

    The actor who plays Rutledge is so adorable! I'm was watching this miniseries and god help me I can't find his name :(

    • @1101millie97
      @1101millie97 4 года назад +7

      I know this post was made seven years ago, and you have probably gotten your answer already elsewhere since then, but for the record, the actor playing Edward Rutledge was a then-26 year old American named Clancy O'Connor. And he is openly gay, according to the Wikipedia page I read on him.

    • @afellowartist3713
      @afellowartist3713 3 года назад

      @@1101millie97 "openly gay", you say? 😏

  • @whitleypedia
    @whitleypedia 4 года назад +5

    am I the only one who notices that he misuses "whom" ?

  • @Chuichupachichi
    @Chuichupachichi 14 лет назад +5

    There exist many, many documents from the entire founding period. Remember, in the 1770"s they didn't have TV, radio & the many other things we have today that cause many people to not read or write. In addition, the founders were educated intellectual professionals... all these things combined to cause their lives & culture to be one in which they wrote very much. In fact, in general, all of the colonists were quite well educated because they were nearly all Protestants. Since their beginning,

  • @andrewkensington7403
    @andrewkensington7403 2 года назад +2

    Edward Rutledge - Look at the flicka da wrist!

  • @williampennjr.4448
    @williampennjr.4448 2 года назад +1

    and now we have The Squad.

  • @gangstamillion
    @gangstamillion 13 лет назад +26

    @inui1536 Here in Britain we have scenes like this every Wednesday when the PM takes questions from the House of Commons :)

    • @BradyPostma
      @BradyPostma 4 года назад +7

      Complete with fabulously dismissive hand-wave at the end?

  • @paulmiller6647
    @paulmiller6647 2 года назад +7

    These men were more honorable than any soldier or sailor put together. Honorable men to the most high degree. John Adams was a noble character served the country well. Had his demons but overcame them had a very interesting and fascinating personality noble individual beyond comprehension. Reached Statsemanship talented in the work he did. Achieved and performed his duties well a noble individual to the most high degree.

  • @rexross7086
    @rexross7086 2 года назад +2

    If you ever get a chance to go visit Philadelphia and the first Congressional Hall do it the feeling that you get when you walk inside that building the wife and I had a chance to do it last summer and I felt about 2 inches tall. There's just something about that building and its presence knowing what took place in that building and the people that were there way before any of us

    • @Peter_Schiavo
      @Peter_Schiavo Месяц назад

      There were giants there in those days.

  • @mrvoorhees96
    @mrvoorhees96 2 года назад +1

    I love that hand waving at the end. "Yeah yeah whatever, Toodleloo n*gga"

  • @chrisskinner6291
    @chrisskinner6291 2 года назад +1

    If u can't win the war leave your own in key spots 2 move all the rest 2 your way and that's what went Down in this war.

  • @codyrodgers6426
    @codyrodgers6426 2 года назад +2

    Adam's and Franklin both knew the intricacies of great Britain and Adam's knew the only way to bring parliament to the table was by force which ended up being right.

  • @Steve-vl5mg
    @Steve-vl5mg Год назад +1

    VOTE IN PERSON. DONT TRUST BY MAIL.

  • @kylewit924
    @kylewit924 Месяц назад

    That South Carolina representative's little walk off hand wave was an outrageous act of churlish sass

  • @RogerOnTheRight
    @RogerOnTheRight Год назад +1

    Interestingly, Rutledge was the youngest signer of the Declaration.

  • @Zones33
    @Zones33 3 года назад +1

    Why cant our politicians debate like this? With passion and enthusiasm?

  • @aorusaki
    @aorusaki 2 года назад +1

    1:16 Shouldn't he say WHO not WHOM? "Just who/whom do you think will join us". It should be who. They wanted to sound smarter

  • @stiltmansstilt1014
    @stiltmansstilt1014 4 года назад +2

    Franklin straight fired John Adams up! Lol They played nicely off each other.

  • @obiwanfx
    @obiwanfx 8 дней назад

    The fact that anything of this worked out at all is mindblowing
    In summary: Half of the population of a loose alliance of colonies that in turn were also internally divided about some fundamental topics plan on rebelling against the most powerful empire in the world...by asking the people who they themselves kicked out 12 years earlier for help.

  • @softballfreako
    @softballfreako 12 лет назад +14

    i find Rutledge kind of attractive... :)

    • @PizzaAteMyCat
      @PizzaAteMyCat 7 лет назад +2

      softballfreako Same :P

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 4 года назад +2

      I find his face (along side Dicky's) to be the most punchable in that room. And i'd like to piss in that puffball wig of his.

  • @furtim1
    @furtim1 14 лет назад +3

    This was a wonderful series

  • @LordTalax
    @LordTalax 4 года назад +1

    "So be it???" I like the outrage on that.

  • @Gozi4452
    @Gozi4452 3 месяца назад

    Just a little detail for you. Once the US began as a country, John Adams became the genesis for the federalist party and Jefferson became the genesis for the democratic-republican party. This scene gives you a glimpse into Adams's political leanings for a more centralized government. "No Mr. Dickinson, the people look for us to lead the way" vs. "Only the voice of the people can declare independence." Is a perfect comparison between the two mindsets. Dickinson was by no means a democratic-republican, but this moment gives a little bit of foreshadowing into what Adams thought was the correct way to govern. Brilliant show and such a subtle detail, that I'm sure was intentional.

  • @Matej_Sojka
    @Matej_Sojka 2 года назад +2

    Funny thing how none of these people talk about how they refuse to pay less tax than people living in England, yet they are happy to pay for their own army, AFTER Britain fought for their safety just few years ago. Whole thing came about because Britain needed to replenish funds spent to defend the colonies. Yeah, ask for taxation with representation, but do not forget to mention why those taxes were levied in the first place.

    • @idontcare93211
      @idontcare93211 11 месяцев назад

      People founded the colonies because they were persecuted in England. The real war was in the West Indies, India and Europe. The colonies were secondary.

  • @mhdfrb9971
    @mhdfrb9971 Год назад +1

    This is like the Roman Senate 2.0

  • @mistax2k
    @mistax2k 13 лет назад +3

    RUTLEDGE: TALK TO THE HAND!

  • @TheGoonsies
    @TheGoonsies 5 месяцев назад +2

    Congress was way more exciting back in the day

  • @aef4266
    @aef4266 14 лет назад +1

    I liked that nice little epigram by Franklin at the beginning. Lol, looks like Jefferson is the only one keeping it real. 1:16

  • @Frisbieinstein
    @Frisbieinstein 4 года назад +2

    Those guys were drunk all the time. We have records of the amount alcohol they consumed. A lot.

  • @snakey934Snakeybakey
    @snakey934Snakeybakey 4 года назад +17

    I'm just disappointed that they didn't portray Rutledge with his Southern accent here. That speech would have sounded so much more impassioned.

    • @williamwaha3193
      @williamwaha3193 4 года назад +18

      Beni Habibi -- The "Modern " American Southern ' slang' used today did NOT EXIST back then sir . The 'Original' 13 British Colonies were made up of Englishmen who WERE PROUD to be Englishmen . They didn't seek rebellion or retribution only to re-obtain their RIGHTS as Englishmen which were being stripped away by Proclamation after Proclamation . Only AFTER they had exhausted ALL other avenues of approach did they then Proclaim themselves and their generations to follow as 'Free' American Sovereign Citizens in the World . The modern vernacular used in today's American South came about due to the people who would eventually settle or be resettled there . 100 years of an isolation to any extent will play a part in the speech of the survivors and do remember that the North and South did fight a long lasting and bloody WAR in which the more eloquent ,educated and responsible citizenry of the South perished plus after the American Civil War the So - called Southern Gentlemen were arrested and died in prison camps . Their generations to follow that were left behind were made up of women and children , to that end proper speech became a thing of their past . At this time in American history the education establishments were largely in the North as was the manufacturing , the South contributed raw materials from farms and wood lots . Impoverished farmers weren't usually eloquent and ' slang' was very prominent which does take a toll on dialect .

    • @ulysses2162
      @ulysses2162 3 года назад +1

      They all still had English accents back then. The accents of todays America didn't exist at that time.

    • @odysseusrex5908
      @odysseusrex5908 2 года назад +2

      From what I understand, the accents portrayed here are very close to genuine for the time. Somewhere on RUclips is a recording of a Confederate veteran, from the upper classes, describing his experiences in the war. His accent is not at all what you would expect.

  • @saudade2100
    @saudade2100 Год назад

    Cesar Rodney, Delegate from Delaware 1:52 See the cloth around his head. He had a cancer, the books usually call it a "facial cancer". I would tend to suspect a skin cancer. Skin cancer is treatable nowadays, but of course not easily in the 18th century. The scarf he wore is accurate, except he wore it over his face. The cancer was on his nose, and in 1768 a Philadelphia surgeon excised it. The surgery left a bone-deep hole in his face, described as being between his eye and his nose. Writing to his brother Thomas, Cesar Rodney wrote:
    "....The doctor has extracted the hard crusted matter which had risen so high and it left a hole, I believe, quite to the bone, and extends for length from the corner of my eye above half way down my nose....."
    He did wear that scarf, but he wore it over his face.

  • @NeferNaklah
    @NeferNaklah 13 лет назад +3

    I like how Edward Rutledge talks.

  • @williamlukesinclair1315
    @williamlukesinclair1315 5 лет назад +1

    The hand is mightier than the sword.

  • @IntoTheVoid96
    @IntoTheVoid96 4 года назад +2

    Forget about the gelgameks?!

  • @austinshannon4197
    @austinshannon4197 Год назад +1

    Honestly I can understand them flabbergasted when they heard France will help in fighting for insurrection against their country of Great Britain. It’d be like today if Alaska was pissed at our country of America and asked thought about asking Russia for help for independence. Same thing.

  • @SwiftyMchvey
    @SwiftyMchvey 12 лет назад +2

    Yepp, I read that in a book that John was the Redhead of that generation of Rutledges. Apparently it was tradition to have one redhead per generation. book from 1942? 2 generations later and the trend is still true!

  • @camq-py7bs
    @camq-py7bs Год назад +4

    Men: women are too emotional for politics
    Also men: SoBeIt!? 2:13

  • @chefbillybaroo2056
    @chefbillybaroo2056 Год назад +1

    Mr. Adams had balls bigger than South Carolina!

  • @finnegan5038
    @finnegan5038 3 года назад +2

    Mr. Dwayne is hilarious LMFAO "FRAAAANCE???"

    • @peteg475
      @peteg475 3 года назад

      That's my favorite part. The great incredulous hue and cry when Adams says "France". lol It's like "Are you out of your mind, you Boston pipsqueak! Good luck with that!"

  • @smhollanshead
    @smhollanshead Год назад

    The representative from South Carolina show the divide between the north and the south. It was this divide that had to be bridged. The north needed the south to fight the British. The south needed slavery to grow cotton. The founding fathers agreed to make slavery a state issue in exchange for the south agreeing on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Given the language in these documents that all men are created equal and the institution of slavery, the United States was on a collision course with itself.

  • @zaldygallardojr.322
    @zaldygallardojr.322 Год назад

    "The King (George the Third) has refused our Petitions; He has branded us Rebels. The Question is not whether by a Declaration of Independence that we should make ourselves Something we are not, but whether we should declare a Fact or Something which is already existing."

  • @mitchellcleveland6182
    @mitchellcleveland6182 Год назад +2

    "then so be it" the balls on this guy

  • @michaeljmobley
    @michaeljmobley Год назад +1

    Our nation was founded by brave men and the occasional buzzing fly.

  • @stephenkunst7550
    @stephenkunst7550 Месяц назад

    Excellent program. Has only one oddity. Why is Washington shown as an elderly man? He was only 44 in 1776. In this program Washington looks to be in his mid 60s not 40s.

  • @cryhav0k2112
    @cryhav0k2112 2 года назад +3

    From the book by David McCullough:
    "Young Ned Rutledge is a perfect Bob o' Lincoln, a swallow, a sparrow, a peacock, excessively vain, excessively weak, excessively variable and unsteady - jejune, inane, and puerile."
    -John Adams

  • @aaronrowell6943
    @aaronrowell6943 Год назад +2

    The US today: we should be more like the founding fathers the country was more united
    The founding fathers:

  • @imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406
    @imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406 4 года назад +1

    Great miniseries, totally worth buying

  • @ThrillaWhale
    @ThrillaWhale 4 года назад +1

    Dat hand wave is dandy as fuck.

  • @nathanpont3831
    @nathanpont3831 4 месяца назад

    Not now, NOT EVER!
    **a few months later**

  • @bigbenssearchhistory5875
    @bigbenssearchhistory5875 Год назад +2

    Big John Dickenson was only there because he married the wealthiest old widow in the colonies. Hey if it works right 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @spentlizard353
    @spentlizard353 3 года назад +2

    “ONLAY DA VICE OF DA PEEPOL CAN PRACLAIM INDAPANDANCE”
    “no, No, NO! MR DICKINSON!”

  • @constitutionman9026
    @constitutionman9026 2 года назад +1

    Sooo...Ben Franklin and Cornwallis were twins? (figure it out)

  • @JonatasMonte
    @JonatasMonte 5 лет назад +1

    2:17 Right there is the patron of the social media

  • @CapitalismPrevails
    @CapitalismPrevails 11 лет назад +17

    LOL, i bet the actor playing Rutledge had a lot of fun waiving in this scene camera cut after camer cut.

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 4 года назад +1

      #FuckCapitalism

    • @hunterlee9222
      @hunterlee9222 3 года назад +1

      @@Cjnw are you a woman?

    • @geraldkiing1904
      @geraldkiing1904 3 года назад

      @@Cjnw #FuckCommunismAndSocialism

  • @codyrodgers6426
    @codyrodgers6426 3 года назад +2

    Ironically this is where political parties stated to arrise after the war. You had Adams and the federalist who believed that a strong central government is paramount to keeping peace and order while Jefferson and the whig party thought states should make there own rules and have a small weak central government.

    • @mr.raslyon6626
      @mr.raslyon6626 Год назад

      The older I get, the more I agree with Jefferson.