I never knew there was a difference in grip between the pendulum and the reverse pendulum serve. Changing my grip and using the other tips of this video really helped. I've been practicing this serve for months but I just couldn't master it, but now with this change it grip I have a lot more control over my serve and I can get a lot more spin. Thanks for the video!
Finally a good tutorial on this serve ever on internet. Not even paid coaching lessons online have this level of good explanation. Nice work right there! I'll start learning this serve, since everyone knows and return easily all of the ones I already have.
I found one issue with this technique that prevented me from mastering this serve for a long time. My issue was the handle was brushing against my wrist preventing a clean motion for generating a the spin from wrist. Looked at a Eli Baraty video where he suggests some techniques but did not work well for me. My solution was to grip the racket lower towards the bottom of the handle. Seems to work well as the bottom of the handle is no longer in way of wrist snap
Nice tutorial. Already knew most of it, maybe appart from the grip change, but I think I've been doing it subconciously lol. Anyhow, it's also a nice serve to mix up a bit more. Like fast long top/side spin serves (as with pendulum, but opposite sidespin). Or brush it 'close to' purely sideways/horizontally under the ball where the spin will be pretty dead on normal recieves. or alternatively just do a no-spin serve that looks like 'heavy underspin' (no-spin serves that looks like underspin kicks ass) You can also make a decent short/low "top spin" serve where you contact the ball the oposite way compared to the underspin version, as in, "away from the table under the ball" but still enough 'upward' for the ball to move forward and over the net. Which is actually easier with the reverse than the normal pendulum. At least deceptive wise. If your opponent is not observant (or high level) they will try cut it normally and it will jump upwards. :) Just my own variants of this serve, I'd be delighted to hear more.
It was a lot of fun to practice this serve. I did it step by step. In the end, I used the forearm and wrist more. Then the serves were really good. Not perfect, of course. I have to create more spin. Practice creates masters. Thanks again for the tips.
@@TableTennisDailyI tried the pendulum serve but I decided I needed a backhand type serve and then I found this. I’m gonna try it for the rest of the week in practice and then against my dad
Great practical guide, only thing I would add is to point out the strategic value of the reverse pendulum is as a mix up. A big element to work on is making your start position identical to a normal pendulum and to execute the movement as quickly and late as possible.
Dan & Tom, Thank you for this excellent lesson of mastering the reverse pendulum serve which is very useful to me. I am trying to learn this to replace my tradition BH serve. Thanks guys! 👍✌🏓
hank you guys. I recently found your videos And I really learning new stuff or mastering what I knew already. Thanks for the great job you are doing. Sas
I’ve been getting back into ping pong a lot lately. I’ve played a lot back in high school. I really love it, lots of fun. So much skill, strategy involved here, reminds me of chess. 🙂 I really enjoy having a bunch of various serves so your opponent doesn’t get used to the serve when you’re serving so many different ones. This serve looks do able. I’ll work hard and add this one to my Repertoire. 😆 Great video! 👍🏽👍🏽
Very nice! I was doing that instinctively! I am glad that I see you doing the same way! The body rotation linked with the arm action facilitate a lot the position of your serve. Thanks guys!
Hey guys thanks a lot this really helped me. I loved this video keep it up... Also I was hoping u guys could put up a video on how to do the reverse tomohauk.. thanks😊
This is the hardest serve for me. So many different ways to do it, but I think you need to pick the way best for you body ability. I'm going to try this technique now.
A regular, bread and butter pendulum serve tutorial would be incredibly helpful. A lot of the "tutorials" I've run into lack the clarity of the one I saw here today. Thanks for the content
i love you videos it helps me a lot in table tenneis becouse i always lose against my friends:( but now im learning from you so i will become a lot better and a subscribed:)
Hi Dan, I am avid follower of your videos and reviews. I would like to make a suggestion here. Many players are aware of how to make a reverse pendulum serve, but are afraid of using it in a match. This includes me. Many amateur players work on different serves but we don't know the correct placement of the serve and are not sure what to do when someone receives it either from F/H or B/H. So if you please give some thought on this and cover this in your next video then it would be really helpful to everyone.
Hey Mudit, thanks for your nice comment, and I agree we should definitely mention this and take this into consideration more in the future. We actually have tons of videos on serve placement and the follower up shot on the Academy. We will bear this in mind, thanks Mudit :)
Thanks Dan, Basically a side spin if received correctly will also spin back or away from the server. In either case it is important for the server to anticipate the movement and move accordingly. If as a player I use one serve as a dominant serve and use the other one sparingly I am less prepared for the other serve kicking differently. That was my point which I requested you to consider.
Thanks for this excellent reverse serve tutorial. Found it really helpful. I'd also like to learn how to smash high balls better. Can you please do a tutorial for that?
In many of the examples the hitting point of the serve is across the backline of the table, which is an illegal serve. Now please do a review of Nittaku Acoustic.
I still feel that more info - and a taster video would be good for the Per Gerell course. I can't really see what I'm getting - length of video, quality of shots, split screen, ultra slow motion etc. etc. I'd be interested in buying the course if I could see a sample.
@@guntherschabus3458 Thanks for that. Taken on the course with that recommendation. TTD, I still think there's room for more info that might get others interested - for example the topspin serve; is that backhand AND forehand? I'll add a review of sorts when I get onto practising.
Just got the videos ready to learn - can I suggest that you make the sequencing easier to follow. Week 1 follows the introduction video, and assumes that you know what the grip is, but the grip video isn't in that sequence - should you watch the other videos before the weekly course?
Heyyaa.. Your Videos are just per-fect.. simply explained.. but, is there a way to practice serves alone at home or something? cuz, I am desperate to learn serves but it's a bit different here.. if I start practicing the serves with someone, they'll start feeling like it's a waste of time for them (maybe it is).. and you won't get a table all for youself here .. so, is there anything I can do at home to get the spin and then practice the serve on the table for a few mins or something?? thanks a lot for ur vids
Does tensor rubbers make this serve more difficult? Mine bounces all over and either flies off the bat too fast to spin or does not make it over the net. I cant seem to get the ball to dwell the same way that is demonstrated in the video!
total rookie question, but wouldn't it be a bit awkward to transition back to your normal grip after serving in preparation for the 3rd ball? Great content and tutorial, thanks!
It takes practice. Most pros use the pinch grip on almost every serve and have to readjust their grip back to shakehand in a split second. So it's pretty normal.
Super sticky, high spin, can be fast with full stroke, not sensitive to spin on service return so the short game is amazing, lasts a long time if you clean it properly.
Can u show our family about serve of yoshimura whenever u can thanks a lot ??because Japanese Yoshimora serve pendulum look special not like Timo . Thanks again
Jan, beginners need a medium speed blade and most 5-ply all wood blades are just that. They are flexible and you can really feel the ball. There's no better blade to develop your game with. I recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra. It's only $29 USD
Hi. When you do the first step in this video, after you bend your wrist backwards towards your belly, where does the ball first hit the racket when you flick it. I'm having a hard time seeing where you first starting brushing the ball. Is it the front or the back of the racket? Look forward to hearing from you. Thank you.
Because of the sidespin the opponent can realistically only return it to one side of table (the same side you served from). This allows you to ready yourself and attack the next ball comfortably as you know where the return will go.
Do you like to use the reverse serve? Be sure to like and subscribe! See you in the comments! 🔥
U are better than Pongfinity
I helped you a lot with the tendle service I want to learn for a long time and i think IT Will be my main service!! 😊
You are better than the yang yang channel at explaining it
Yes, i like that serve
Yes it's an amazing service
I was looking for such a clear and well explained reverse pendulum serve tutorial. I Will start to practice it in my next training session.
Ibrahim Nezar Al-Mahfooz Same
I never knew there was a difference in grip between the pendulum and the reverse pendulum serve. Changing my grip and using the other tips of this video really helped. I've been practicing this serve for months but I just couldn't master it, but now with this change it grip I have a lot more control over my serve and I can get a lot more spin. Thanks for the video!
This by far the best explanation of how to do this serve correctly. 👍👍
Finally a good tutorial on this serve ever on internet. Not even paid coaching lessons online have this level of good explanation. Nice work right there! I'll start learning this serve, since everyone knows and return easily all of the ones I already have.
Hey Dan this video is soooooo cool are your videos I always enjoy! Keep going! I love your channel!
Thanks for this, clear explanation! Wasn't sure I was ever be able to learn this one, but with this clear tutorial I should be able to.
I found one issue with this technique that prevented me from mastering this serve for a long time. My issue was the handle was brushing against my wrist preventing a clean motion for generating a the spin from wrist. Looked at a Eli Baraty video where he suggests some techniques but did not work well for me. My solution was to grip the racket lower towards the bottom of the handle. Seems to work well as the bottom of the handle is no longer in way of wrist snap
Nice tutorial. Already knew most of it, maybe appart from the grip change, but I think I've been doing it subconciously lol.
Anyhow, it's also a nice serve to mix up a bit more. Like fast long top/side spin serves (as with pendulum, but opposite sidespin).
Or brush it 'close to' purely sideways/horizontally under the ball where the spin will be pretty dead on normal recieves.
or alternatively just do a no-spin serve that looks like 'heavy underspin' (no-spin serves that looks like underspin kicks ass)
You can also make a decent short/low "top spin" serve where you contact the ball the oposite way compared to the underspin version, as in, "away from the table under the ball" but still enough 'upward' for the ball to move forward and over the net. Which is actually easier with the reverse than the normal pendulum. At least deceptive wise.
If your opponent is not observant (or high level) they will try cut it normally and it will jump upwards. :)
Just my own variants of this serve, I'd be delighted to hear more.
Great tutorial! I will try this serve in a few minutes when the training session starts. Thanks a lot! Keep it up!. ;-)
Hey Franky, great stuff, have a good session let us know how you get on :)
It was a lot of fun to practice this serve. I did it step by step. In the end, I used the forearm and wrist more. Then the serves were really good. Not perfect, of course. I have to create more spin. Practice creates masters. Thanks again for the tips.
@@TableTennisDailyI tried the pendulum serve but I decided I needed a backhand type serve and then I found this. I’m gonna try it for the rest of the week in practice and then against my dad
Great practical guide, only thing I would add is to point out the strategic value of the reverse pendulum is as a mix up. A big element to work on is making your start position identical to a normal pendulum and to execute the movement as quickly and late as possible.
I think it will help me a lot in future contests, thank you guys.🎉
Dan & Tom, Thank you for this excellent lesson of mastering the reverse pendulum serve which is very useful to me. I am trying to learn this to replace my tradition BH serve. Thanks guys! 👍✌🏓
Hard to better explain this hard to start serve , i need to return to the practice with your lesson in mind , thank you for sharing your passion.
hank you guys. I recently found your videos And I really learning new stuff or mastering what I knew already. Thanks for the great job you are doing.
Sas
I’ve been getting back into ping pong a lot lately. I’ve played a lot back in high school. I really love it, lots of fun. So much skill, strategy involved here, reminds me of chess. 🙂 I really enjoy having a bunch of various serves so your opponent doesn’t get used to the serve when you’re serving so many different ones. This serve looks do able. I’ll work hard and add this one to my Repertoire. 😆 Great video! 👍🏽👍🏽
Dan u r really doing well bro...congrats from India
Very useful tutorial. You both are really best experts, so far as tutorials are concerned.
Could you do a tomohawk tutorial next?
Very nice! I was doing that instinctively! I am glad that I see you doing the same way! The body rotation linked with the arm action facilitate a lot the position of your serve. Thanks guys!
I've tried to learn this thing for months without success. This video did the trick. Thanks
Excellent explanation and perfect camera work!
Hey guys thanks a lot this really helped me. I loved this video keep it up... Also I was hoping u guys could put up a video on how to do the reverse tomohauk.. thanks😊
thank you so give me more with simple and easy to understand explanation.
This is the hardest serve for me. So many different ways to do it, but I think you need to pick the way best for you body ability. I'm going to try this technique now.
thanks for making this video I am really trying to master the reverse pendulum for so long
excellent explaining and demonstrating
Bonjour, merci pour les conseils. J ai enfin compris le mouvement du bras dans le backspin.
Thank you.
A regular, bread and butter pendulum serve tutorial would be incredibly helpful. A lot of the "tutorials" I've run into lack the clarity of the one I saw here today.
Thanks for the content
Far way the simplest explaination of this type of serve, easy to look but hard to do, motivated to do the basic to improve in the future
I was knowing all the serve's but not this but now I know this serve too thanks.
Very nice 👍 ,clear demonstration...keep posting..God bless 🙏
Wonderful for beginners as well as for senior players. All the tips are to be paracticed.
ReversePendulum most stylish, coolest serve in TT but very difficult thanks Dan👍🏼
Looking at timos serves is a whole different level, I just can't do it like that
Make a video on fast service
You guys are great. Thanks a lot for all this thorough analysis and explanation.
This is great!
i love you videos it helps me a lot in table tenneis becouse i always lose against my friends:( but now im learning from you so i will become a lot better and a subscribed:)
very helpful video, thank you very much.
This was very well done, thanks
Thanks Fricer :)
Thx so much. This was very helpful. Keep it up!! 👏👏👏🏓🏓
well made video and exactly great tutorial step by step .. thanks a lot
Great Guys, great tips.
I really like it and I used the serve and won almost all my games cuz of the serve
Amazing, thanks a lot.
Hi Dan, I am avid follower of your videos and reviews. I would like to make a suggestion here. Many players are aware of how to make a reverse pendulum serve, but are afraid of using it in a match. This includes me. Many amateur players work on different serves but we don't know the correct placement of the serve and are not sure what to do when someone receives it either from F/H or B/H. So if you please give some thought on this and cover this in your next video then it would be really helpful to everyone.
Hey Mudit, thanks for your nice comment, and I agree we should definitely mention this and take this into consideration more in the future. We actually have tons of videos on serve placement and the follower up shot on the Academy. We will bear this in mind, thanks Mudit :)
Thanks Dan, Basically a side spin if received correctly will also spin back or away from the server. In either case it is important for the server to anticipate the movement and move accordingly. If as a player I use one serve as a dominant serve and use the other one sparingly I am less prepared for the other serve kicking differently. That was my point which I requested you to consider.
Thanks for this excellent reverse serve tutorial. Found it really helpful.
I'd also like to learn how to smash high balls better. Can you please do a tutorial for that?
Thanks you so much I have learned it
Can you do one for the regular pendulum serve please? This was super helpful :)
Million thanks! Your are awesome!
thanks a lot i had trouble doing this serve
Hey Moon glad you enjoyed the video. Hope your serve improves keep up the practice :)
Thanks for sharing
In many of the examples the hitting point of the serve is across the backline of the table, which is an illegal serve. Now please do a review of Nittaku Acoustic.
Thanks
I love it
How about for penhold players?
Thanks for the good video
I still feel that more info - and a taster video would be good for the Per Gerell course. I can't really see what I'm getting - length of video, quality of shots, split screen, ultra slow motion etc. etc. I'd be interested in buying the course if I could see a sample.
I find the course very useful. I bought it and learned a lot. 👍
@@guntherschabus3458 Thanks for that. Taken on the course with that recommendation. TTD, I still think there's room for more info that might get others interested - for example the topspin serve; is that backhand AND forehand? I'll add a review of sorts when I get onto practising.
Just got the videos ready to learn - can I suggest that you make the sequencing easier to follow. Week 1 follows the introduction video, and assumes that you know what the grip is, but the grip video isn't in that sequence - should you watch the other videos before the weekly course?
FINALLY 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you!!!
Thank you
Thanks you coach
You recommend doing the diagonal variation?
Heyyaa.. Your Videos are just per-fect.. simply explained.. but, is there a way to practice serves alone at home or something? cuz, I am desperate to learn serves but it's a bit different here.. if I start practicing the serves with someone, they'll start feeling like it's a waste of time for them (maybe it is).. and you won't get a table all for youself here .. so, is there anything I can do at home to get the spin and then practice the serve on the table for a few mins or something??
thanks a lot for ur vids
Nice superp brothers
thank you kindly
Thanks!
Does tensor rubbers make this serve more difficult? Mine bounces all over and either flies off the bat too fast to spin or does not make it over the net. I cant seem to get the ball to dwell the same way that is demonstrated in the video!
Good to make it clear to avoid making your serve over the table. Getting pretty close to throwing the ball over the table here.
awesome this tehnicue
total rookie question, but wouldn't it be a bit awkward to transition back to your normal grip after serving in preparation for the 3rd ball? Great content and tutorial, thanks!
It takes practice. Most pros use the pinch grip on almost every serve and have to readjust their grip back to shakehand in a split second. So it's pretty normal.
Once you are used to it, it's automatic and very quick. I don't even think about that after serving and the bat is ready for the next shot.
if you could add more videos for the other serves, it would help.. thanks Dan and tom.
Do some penhold tricks too please.
Hey
Great video
#7
In the grip can the bat handle be underneath the wrist
Thanks❤🇮🇶
Rasanter R53 Please 🙏😉👋
Definitely my overused serve. Started through Smirnov
Could you do the normal pendulum serve please
Can you guys please review hurricane 3
Super sticky, high spin, can be fast with full stroke, not sensitive to spin on service return so the short game is amazing, lasts a long time if you clean it properly.
Can u show our family about serve of yoshimura whenever u can thanks a lot ??because Japanese Yoshimora serve pendulum look special not like Timo . Thanks again
Should I use a soft rubber (Butterfly Tackiness Drive) and a hard rubber (DHS Hurricane 3 Neo) on the same bat?
Just want to ask if u have any blade recommendation that is not too expensive for beginner
Jan, beginners need a medium speed blade and most 5-ply all wood blades are just that. They are flexible and you can really feel the ball. There's no better blade to develop your game with. I recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra. It's only $29 USD
Good 👍
Do a video doing the underspin serve, please
You should definitely learn the underspin serve first! Good recommendation.
Do a rewiew on the Tenergy 64 pls
Which table tennis racket do you use
Good❤❤❤
Thanks dan
Dude, nice control around the 2 minute mark keeping all of those balls on the table. Not easy to do that consistently.
It is not that hard..
Please A Tuturial Of Third Ball Attack
Is it key to make the serve short
Can you show how to do deviation serve
Good job Mr. Bean
Hi. When you do the first step in this video, after you bend your wrist backwards towards your belly, where does the ball first hit the racket when you flick it. I'm having a hard time seeing where you first starting brushing the ball. Is it the front or the back of the racket? Look forward to hearing from you. Thank you.
Take like a like, great work, next is tomahawk.
Love love
please upload video from back side, so we can easily understand movement
Sir apne matches mai koi serve nahi try ki thi
Tom Vs dan
What about forhand side spin serve
👍 super
What are the advantages of this serve? Since its so difficult there has to be some good reasons?
Because of the sidespin the opponent can realistically only return it to one side of table (the same side you served from). This allows you to ready yourself and attack the next ball comfortably as you know where the return will go.
I agree with Harry. Also the fact that it is less common so you can really shock players in tournaments who haven't encountered it before.