Second Test Drive on the CBR 1000 Off Road Buggy
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I'm going to parrot everyone else here and say the same thing: I would first make suspension adjustments, and then get the engine to run on all cylinders. I love this project, though. With some refinement, this machine has the potential to be a beast! Keep up the good work!
100%. The rebound on the rear shocks is too fast so it’s kicking the back up too quickly. If it’s not adjustable you may be able to put heavier weight oil in there.
Some sway bars. And get higher up in the Rev range so when you stomp on the throttle on the lip of the jump. It’s more in the power band of that engine. Brilliant little project though. It may suit some larger wheels better too.
@@mdnovaman I was going to say same thing them rear shocks are causing it to fling up in the rear, that's all I can think it would be.
Completely agree....sounds like a cylinder down......suspension is way too soft
@@kartguy it’s because the wheel base is to long for that jump, it would do that anyways even with the lowest rebound setting
@@charlesluhm2181 Oh ok yeah I have no clue was just guessing the best I could : D
I'm telling you, just like I said last time that bike isn't running right. I don't know if the timing is off or the firing order is wrong. Something's not right. Been around bikes my whole life. Used to race them for a short while. That is not what an inline four it's supposed to sound like. Do yourself a favor and get an official repair manual. You can find copies on eBay for like five bucks. Check the easy stuff first like timing and firing order. Then check to see what else could be wrong with the ignition system.
Im thinking the same thing. That sounds like a "v" engine more than a high reving street bike
Yep something isn't right it sounds like the ninja 650 buggy he has which is an inline 2
Yup i was saying the same thing last vidja
ya that 1000 should be SCREAMING! more than enough power for that chassis.
You also have to remember it has 2 cylinders per exhaust. So what you're hearing is right. If all 4 we're together like on the bike than it would sound like you're used to. Any 2 cylinder bike sounds exactly like that.
I’d say it’s only running on 2 or 3 cylinders for sure. Just doesn’t sound right.
I guess thats it too
My first thought as well
Yeah, I'm going right up the middle with 2.5
Makes me laugh when he shuts off right before the jumps it’s like “oh god here we go”
Yep, that's causing a lot of the front end pitching. He needs to accelerate at the point he lets off.
Yep he's going to nose dive and face plant it one time too many and learn the hard way!
Needs to accelerate through the jump. That what causes 90% of the endos you see with sxs's
That was so annoying; so many times. He should be the camera man from now on, not the driver.
Yep, driving me nuts how timid he is.
when you fly off of a jump,and let off the gas,it will cause the front end to nose dive.try keeping the gas on until you hit the ground. Give it a try
yeah. he's still learning how to drive.. give the kid a break. lol
He can also backoff the preload on the rear shocks, about 1 or 2 turns (the blue ring at top of the shock) and that will help big time.
@@video1276 nah, I think he needs to stiffen the front instead
She’s definitely going to be a ripper once u get it running rite!!
The jump is shorter than the wheel base so it will always buck , no amount of holding the throttle on and suspension setup will change that. Awesome job on the buggy ! Looks like it handles well!
It sounds terrible, definitely not running right it should rev up a lot higher.
You couldn’t tell it wasn’t running on all cylinders?
Could totally hear it when he brought the rpm’s up it fell on its face.
@@aarongrabowski3775 Yes its running very bad, hes going to get the shock of his life once its running good!
when he stops, they clearly talk about how its not running right--- he's aware
Not like they talked about it for a good minute
@@DeltaCmndrElite lol.. If he's brave enough to step on it and kiss that red line a few times.
It runs so bad, or is it just me that it just doesn’t rev up
it's not the bike..its the driver
I am so close to start my bike and rev it to feel better. So much work to ride it in 4 gear at 3000 rpm...wtf.
Yep, it runs like poop 😅
When his buddy drove it it ran decently, he just doesn't mat it ever and only goes maybe half throttle most of the time. But def needs a tune up and a sway bar
yeah defo sounds like its spluttering alot and the sus is too soft.
That thing is bad ass, im not lieing when I say I would rather buy that then a rzr or any other brand of side by side out there, the things you come up, are badass. Don't ever doubt your skills.
Yeah this guy has excellent fabrication skills
@@TwoGunToast that's a waste of time. You can find plans to build a better frame online, sometimes for free too. Besides I doubt any "companies" want to buy his frame design when they can easily design a better frame. Chris tends to make his frames way too big, and by big I don't mean thicker tubing, his frames are usually longer and taller then most other designs I have seen. This frame he made is much better than that other one he made because he made it smaller but I think he can still make it smaller and more compact.
@@dereklyons6885 you obviously didnt read my comment. I said to COMPANIES to MASS MANUFACTURE vehicles using his design (as in, completely built vehicles ready to ride). No SHIT itd be easier for a consumer to find plans online. Jesus christ. Didnt think i had to spell out exactly what i meant by "companies" and "mass produce vehicles using his design". Notice i said VEHICLE and NOT FRAME
@@TwoGunToast You missed the point that any of those companies could do considerably better without having to pay him a commission to use his design.
There's no sense in arguing over what he could do. Yes he could do all that. But obviously he doesn't want to, im sure there's alot of pain in the ass shit to deal with when it comes to something like that.
Even if this guy got it running right he is so scared of it we will never know it’s potential!
Exactly. Just like with the Grave Ninja. He builds himself Trophy Trucks, and then he just putters.
It is quite a sad sight but I'm grateful that he at least lets others drive.
Agree
He needs Ike to drive it
yeah but when ghpc drives it they will flip it, what do you want?
Nice to see you properly sending one of your machines
Definitely running on 3cyl pull the coils up one by one to identify what cylinder. That and a sway bar will be a game changer
You only need to unplug them. Another way to diagnose a miss is to unplug 1 injector at a time
Take it out to the grind hard guys. They will turn it loose for you.
Chris you are getting so close to having the best home made buggy I’ve ever seen! Great job buddy, you are an awesome fabricator!!
With a buggy like that and a jump like that you need to go slower into the jump and hammer down as your about to hit it like your buddy said but keep it pinned till you touch back down. Preloading the shocks and using the enirsha from the tires spinning to pull the back end down. I used to race dirt bikes when I was a kid and you had to work breaks and gas when in the air from hitting a jump depending on the way you hit it. I would think the concept would be the same.
Staying on power till you land bends and breaks things ask any rzr owner
@@la_plata3588 not much of a lip on that jump though. If he wants to keep the front from nose diving then he needs to do something. Working the throttle always worked for me.
Probably the only person on youtube that I actually wish I knew personally. Cool genuine guy everytime dudes a Master builder & always original.
Need to stiffen the second spring rate to help with sway
Doesn't sound right tho. Do a compression test and a spark removal test to see of things are copacetic in that respect, finally, triple check the firing order. Something's wrong.
Edit: because maybe i'm not clear in the explanation, the spark removal test is the usual stuff, you remove a coil at a time with the engine running, as you know, BUT, there's one other thing you need to do, which is swapping the bad coil around, because there's that issue too.
One other thing i'd check, how much ohms you're getting on your coils. Most JP bikes should be around 0.31~-0.33, the owner's manual should have the specific coil ohm value.
If he's not running an equal length 4 into 1 exhaust it will never sound right.
I want to see your buddy hit that jump going the speed he’s at while doing a hot lap. Also I think you’re shifting too soon. Keep the rpm’s a little on the high side. I think you’re lugging the motor down a bit.
He’d probably tumble the thing
I watched the first one and had some thoughts. This one is so raw, kudos. Great build and video series dude.
I didn’t see you put a seatbelt on I think you really need to use a harness system
all it takes is a heim joint to fail and send that buggy flipping in the air
seen it happen with my own eyes
agreed
He’s too weak to go fast enough to get injured. 🙄
@@justincasey_grabbederpussy6756 stop hating
@@steveww07
Stop being a 🐓🍭
Excited to c it with the finishing touches and re-ripped on. Sweet build
Sounds like it's missing. Gearing is right tho
Cold start redlining doesn't tend to help that 😂😂😂 I reckon he's got a lazy valve
wrong.. its way too low geared still..
but yes, its not running right.
Gearing is definitely not right if he has to be in the highest gear at 10k rpm and not even reach 60 mph.
@@MrArcticPOWER right.. it should maybe drive that way with his trans in the lowest gear... but that high gear should be almost hard to start off in first, IMO... It should be like really tall-- like for racing only... and then he could always shift down into those lower gears for normal driving... Its not that hard to do the math on the gears. lol.. He's had that trans apart, he knows the tooth count. and its not hard to look up the gearing in the bike too. I've tried to explain how to calculate gearing in this chat, I guess he's not that interested in learning some things.
@@calholli he has the low range for crawling not normal driving. He doesn't want it to to do 100mph he wants it to drive normally and crawl when needed
Thing is like an angry cat when you get after it... it just raises up and screams...!! Love it, just gotta adjust your springs and get a swaybar...
We want to see Mario Andretti drive this thing . 15 grand , 20 foot jumps , sub orbital launches ! ! ! Listen to your camera man , lol
Having a second person helping really takes your videos to the next level... Nice job..
Chris, listen to your buddy about how to jump, he’s right. Give it gas before you hit the jump and keep the power on until after you land, not before. Looks fun!
Sure. Keep revving while in the air and see what breaks from unloading the rear tires or the snap when the tires make contact again. 🤦♂️
@@Crewsy You don't get it. You don't keep it pinned to the limiter, you feather the throttle just enough that the wheels keep spinning at the same speed or higher. That way the inertia from the wheels aren't trying to nose dive it like it does when you lift off the gas as soon as you get airborne.
@@Crewsy I can tell you don’t know how to drive. Watch a motocross rider when he jumps. You can adjust the “attitude” of the bike while in the air. If you want the front end to go down, you hit the back brake. If you want the front to rise, you hit the throttle. Watch a snow cross race, they do the same thing.
@@Nevertrustalawyer
Don’t forget. It’s Chris that’s “driving” the buggy.
The problem with that “jump” is that it’s too small and the front wheels are dropping off just as the back wheels kick up. If Chris does what all the “experts” are telling him he will over rev and snap something, most likely one of the 4 drive chains as soon as a rear tire touches down.
@@kasuraga
That will work on a jump but as I explained ⬆️ that wasn’t a jump that he was going over.
I like the honesty about being nervous to nail it straight off the bat 👍
Definitely not hitting on all of the cylinders. Not sure if banging it off of the rev limiter at start up helped either.
He went from scared to rev it to hitting the limiter before it even has time to build oil pressure lol.
@@Lucas12v absolutely want to get some heat in the engine before pinning the throttle.
@@Lucas12v good fabricator not good driver😂
@@alternatemusicaddict5226 i guess we all have to start somewhere. I'm not exactly Valentino rossi myself lol.
@@Lucas12v It should be close to full pressure about 5 seconds after startup.
I love this guy's fabs. His trigonometry is spectacular, his mechanics not so much. When he has somebody tune this thing and mans up a bit while wheeling it, he's in for a thumper of a wakeup call!
This is a awesome project I love how you put time in to get them right
When you jump and the front goes nose heavy.
“Floor it!!!” The faster wheels will snap the cart downward.
Excellent share!
Larry
Sound like your missing a cylinder for sure and that cbr1000 should easily get u to 80-90 mph when running right with a good gearing it looks great now its time to make it run right
Hiya Chris, very good job! Looking fab! You should add an expansion tank to the radiator, there is no room for expansion in the motorcycle rads, thats why it's connected to a small plastic tank. Just connect it to the small barb fitting underneath the radiator cap. 👌👍
The jump itself is too short going uphill. So its just getting catapulted. But you were learning towards the end there that you gotta keep in the throttle.
A couple of suggestions from a couch-sitter: Raise the cage, fix the miss, add the sway bar, remove the top light bar (for appearance improvement), add sprocket guards, add chain sliders, rear brakes, adjust the shocks, and add a harness. Great work so far!
Just like everyone else, she ain't running right
Nice build,needs that sway bar for sure!
I love your videos ❤️
I would play with tuning the suspension a lil bit harder and maybe some limit straps on before putting sway bars and that sorts of stuff on it and it definitely has a miss of sorts from what I could hear. Other than that looks like a whole lotta fun!
Awesome piece of engineering!! Stunning!! Well done!!
Not running on all cylinders I for the life of me dont know why you cant hear that
6:00 sounds to me like they know it's missing
OMG this thing is a BEAST!!! Great job man :)
only one little thingy that's bothering me, is that the front is wider than the back
but everything else(except the, not all pistons running, thing) is PERFECT!!!
Your buddy sounds like Ken Block with his helmet on. And please let him test it next time he is a lot faster 🤣✌🏻🏴good job👍🏻
what a machine! Pretty stoked that you jump it at your second ride + it works fucking good. Being a one person build I am really amazed. I would have been way more frightend as you are :-) keep it up!
It’s down a cylinder and those exhaust flaps need to be deleted.
What exhaust flaps
19 min that other dude showed its power but that header design is not right for that motor
Also a stiffer front softer rear if it bucks. I'm pretty sure.
the look is so awesome my favorite finished product yet
Use your heat gun on the exhaust pipes at the cylinder head and see what cylinder is missing
This is an awesome little project and I think a lot of people are not remembering the fact that this is still the test and trial period with it, still a lot of fine tuning to do and I know you’re aware of it all. Freaking awesome to have seen it come so far already and I’m sure the finished product is going to be epic. 👍
Stop letting off the throttle when hitting the jump that’s a good way to get yourself hurt man, better to keep steady throttle... not hating love the builds this is a awesome machine and glad to see you starting to giver the beans
Hes gonna nosedive every time until he figures out you gotta keep on the throttle
I love how he's just cutting it to you straight like a quality Dad would. No bullshit or you wont grow! Now get out there and hit it before you hit the jump! Hahaha!
That engine should sound like it's screaming. Also just a tip: make a 4 to 1 exhaust system. Or connect your exhaust, so it's one full system.
I'm sure it's not running on all cilinders. You will be surprised how much power that engine can produce
BTW you did a excellent job building it from scratch your a very hard worker
"I'm going to set a good example and wear a helmet this time" Doesn't do the strap up...
Also, no restraints!
No one ever accused him of being smart. 🤷🏻♂️
So first off, awesome job fixing the shifting and gearing. Seems to be perfect for its application. Never doubted you’d get it figured out.
Second, as you and everyone else noticed, it was misfiring a lot (although it seemed a little better near the end of the video) . It seemed to be doing it under load. Start with the plugs. I’d clean and re-gap them or replace them, just to start. Then I’d check your resistance values of the coils to see if they are up to snuff. After that, I’d start with faults in the wiring. If it persists, there could potentially be a malfunctioning sensor. Once fixed, this thing will feel so much faster in the higher RPM range.
Third, the jump. Personally I feel like that front suspension needs to stiffened up a bit. As it sits, it seems like the front just absorbs the jump, while the back (already preloaded from the weight transfer) is stiffer therefore less absorption and more launch. You’ll have way more confidence in jumping it once you can make it level out, trust me lol
As always, love the content and admire your skill. 🤟🏻
front sespension must be harder, rear must be litle softer to do beter jump
rear rebound needs to be slower.
As far as the throttle issue being able to keep your foot on the pedal, they make a pedal for boats for choppy water you might be able to use the technology from that to stabilize throttle control
There’s something seriously amiss with the way that you’ve got that engine running Chris, it sounds more like a twin cylinder than the high performance 4 cylinder that it’s supposed to be.
Edit: I also think that the suspension is set way too soft.
sounds more like a three cylinder.
Looks like the front is too soft but the back is ok. That's why it kicks the back way up when he jumps it but the front tries to soak up everything and doesn't jump. Or make the back softer if you want everything really soft.
One word -- Seatbelt But also you and your Bud are ballers! for running that thing at higher speeds and jumping it.
Okay love the channel, but A. never rev a cold engine it does all kinds of bad things to it! B. Get it running correctly before you tear it up. C. get lessons on how to drive a manual transmission! D. you need to tune the suspension not add a roll or sway bar, also limit straps would be a very good idea. E. Jumps should be hit at full throttle and held there until touch down or you will flip it over nose first
Mic drop!
Chris, this buggy is absolutely amazing. The jumping attitude is easily fixed with 2 things. 1 - preload. Look at a side shot of the floor pan when you're sitting in it. It is still raked down in the front. Take a little bit of preload off the rear and add a bunch to the front. You want the buggy to at least sit flat, or even up a half inch to an inch when fully loaded with driver. The second thing is just throttle control. Roll up to the jump slow and then whack the throttle like you're trying to do a wheelie. You dont have to hit it with a ton of speed if you're not comfortable. Go slow and get used to driving the nose up with the throttle. Sway bars will make a huge difference on this buggy for cornering/handling. I really dont think stiffening the shocks will have the result you're looking for. It'll just be bouncy and harsh. That thing looks like it handles the terrain amazing with the spring rates you have. It just needs a little help to stay flat and sway bars make a world of difference while not giving up bump / jump capability. Sway bar thickness will be trial and error but I can tell you that you're going to want to be a little thicker in the rear than the front based on the weight bias of your chassis layout. This thing is so sick man. Awesome job!
Front suspension way too soft and sounds like you have 1 cylinder not firing. Could use a sabilizer bar too, so it wouldnt tilt so much in corders.
Exactly what I was gonna say. That front end compresses way too much. Adjust shock dampening and spring rate. It'll help on the roll as well, but will still need sway bars.
there's always a trade off... he has it soft right now for comfort........ but its not going to corner very well.. You can stiffen it up, and it will corner much better/ less body roll-------- but then its going to beat you to hell on the trails. Its not a track buggy. But lets be honest, Once he gets those gearing right (its way too low still, lol)-- and gets it running right--- he should really break down and buy some $2k fox shocks or something legit. He needs to take this ting to grind hard and let them fine tune it all... that would be epic.
@@calholli lol his king shocks shit on fox
That's why i have mentioned making at least 3 mounting points for the back shocks, it can be done to make them straight up for stiffer suspension or an in between for a less stiff ride or were you have it now to rock crawl and just have more cushion while putting trails.
Hes totally letting off the throttle as soon as the front wheels go over ramp, which makes the rear wheels slow, and pull the fron right down.
sway bars and maybe stiffer shock setting and itll be good for corners, high engine with high center of G would be sketchy! sounds good and looks awesome, would you put some panels on the body to give it some shape?
now you need to fix the engine so it fires on all
you should put a kirkey seat in it, will get you lower and further back, and hold you in super tight to give you a little extra confidence. awesome project man!
Fly Ethan from GHPC out there, he'll send it
Yup, Ethan is on a whole other level when it comes to sending it.
"I really spent a long time trying to make it look really mean".....
bruh, it's not mean, that thing is BAD ASS! 👌
New game: watch again and drink a shot of tequila every time you hear "this thing"
Or the word "thing" in general, that's his favorite word LoL
Well he did make a count of Yeah or thereof during the Grind Hard camping trip video.
The craftsmanship is awesome on this thing. The distance between driver and top bars is a broken neck or crushed skull waiting to happen. 1. Strap helmet; 2. Add restraints; 3. Raise the toll bar to give clearance. That thing is going to be screaming fast when the motor is dialed in and chaos will happen quickly.
More rebound on the front. Less on the back and it'll jump even.
more compression on front, slower rebound on the rear.
YO NEED A TEST DRIVER!!
someone who will thrash your creations within an inch of their lives!!👊✊💨💨
dont let off the gas while your in the air
Awesome job ....this build is the best one yet
raise your front suspension and lower the rear
You Redbeard and cars and cameras need to have a ultimate buggy challenge
You should take it to let the “grind hard” boys abuse it
They'd break it for sure, but they'd have doing it, and it would me for some great video.
Sam would roll it instantly 🤣🤣
It's a long drive all the way to Idaho for him, last time his truck took a dump on the way there. Car and Cameras is a lot closer and John would probably put it through it's paces.
Great to see you both having so much fun, this build gets better and better 😉
No jumping skills at all, first you have to get the motor running right so you have instant response when you blurp the throttle at the crest of the jump
5 seconds after starting he's bumping it off the rev limiter...Oh she ain't running right. Absolutely Brilliant.
Revving the hell out of it when cold will kill the plugs pretty quickly, and free revving it to the limiter is just friggin stupid for anyone to do.
free revving to the limiter only when letting the clutch out to start every second. everything other is unneccesary wear down of the engine.
Swaybar, some higher compression valving in your front coilovers, sort the engine out, and you're just about finished 👍
Keep pushing your limits and making badass rigs my man 💪
You will be blown away once you get it running right not on all 4 cylinders
@rather B welding CAMERA MAN IS A+!! saying almost everything that came to mind.... also keep up the good work bro, after you figure out that running issue, maybe stiffen up the suspension a little? it'll help with the leaning issues... you're a legend tho! lmk if you wanna hire a test dummy (me) 😂
Maybe you shouldn’t rev it right after you start it😂
This thing is bad ass! Great job really got me wanting to build one
It looks mean. Two suggestions, first to help with the leaning on turns try and recreate the suspension from the reverse trike's leaning suspension connected to the steering. Second, you have to take it to Cars and Cameras property and let John rip on it. I'm a big fan and watch all your videos, keep it up.
Perfect post apocalyptic vehicle. May come in handy soon.
Chris.. You can adjust the "touchyness" of your throttle by hooking up the cable closer to the pivot point on the pedal.. It will cause your pedal to have a lot more travel and it won't be so sensitive.
very good video..thanks for your time
I think this road byggy is more like a rock crawler...😁👍
First off, this thing is sick. +1 on the sway bar. Thats just the nature of trailing arm suspension, very body rolly. In addition to just tuning compression and rebound, if you're able to put the front shocks at more of an angle, it'll help with body roll. (Look at can am x3s). It would change your travel and spring rate tho. Keep tweaking things and it'll be a monster.
Great job Chris, engine problems aside, you need to treat this machine like the beast that it can be, not the kitty that you make it look and sound like. I believe the word we're looking for is lead foot.
Is it just me or did we all see the outer heim on the tierod move when he was complaining about play in the wheel???!!!! So sick tho man definitely gonna be a beast in the desert
For a machine you designed and made that is an INCREDIBLE result. Amazing. Are you thinking about anti roll bars maybe for the body roll?
I think you nailed those gear ratios dude nice job! Just a few observations (mostly already mentioned in the video) a wider rear end would make it much more stable as well as that sway bar. I would also tighten up those shocks in the rear. Also watch the footage of yourself back hiting the jump, you can hear you’re chopping the throttle which is why it’s nosing over. You need to be steady on the throttle all the way through the jump and into the air and I promise that thing will fly straight 😆 Try going to a higher gear and keeping a steady acceleration through the jump (higher gears are less dramatic while learning). Thing looks fast though!
The rear valving in the shocks need to be stiffer. On the compression and rebound. Also needs a brake proportioning valve to add more pressure to the rear, or figure out why the rear isn't helping stop.
For the throttle. Move the throttle cable closer to the pivot point of the gas pedal and thatll make it less touchy. However youll also need to move the gas pedal more to reach full throttle