The Most Metal SG You Didn't Know Existed | 2016 Gibson SG CM Black Floyd FRX | Review + Demo
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0:18 - Gibson CM Series
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3:30 - Original Price
5:24 - Floyd FRX Explained / Review
9:52 - Inside Look / Specs
14:51 - Tone Demo
16:34 - Final Thoughts
17:50 - Condition
19:50 - Blacklight Test
20:33 - Gig Bag
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📚 Description: Today we are going to learn about the 2016 Gibson LImited Run SG CM Black that came stock with the Floyd Rose Top Mount FRX system and 24 frets! These have a cool satin black "dog hair" finish with a red Gibson Logo and Red Custom Inlay with a Richlite fretboard that doesn't have any inlays - but does have cool red side markers!
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The Most Metal SG You Didn't Know Existed | 2016 Gibson SG CM Black Floyd FRX | Review + Demo
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And to think people thought the original SG shape was satanic in the 60’s
Bernard Isosceles wait, really??
@@Malum09 everything rock and metal related in the 60's was satanic.
I guess they found Elvis' butt shaking satanic too.
PastelComGini lol
@@PastelComGini Elvis played a Double Neck SG
that trem system is revolutionary if you want to avoid having a massive hole in your guitar
Kahler, hold my beer
I have a Duisenberg term on my Les Paul that mounts on the existing posts, no mods. Love it. Simpler than FR and all the range.
And the great part, $99 plus shipping from France where they're made.
@Steve Meiers, this may be my next and only mod to my Les Paul. Thanks for the tip.
this is for guys who love black sabbath and slayer.. so I'm definitely the target audience! lol
Yep
More likely, Behemoth or Mayhem
Funny enough, those sg's with p90's are more for the black sabbath lovers, DEF for slayer lovers though
Metallica?
AC/DC?
Looks like the only SG that Kerry king would play.
I like the black writing... I mean red writing..
I didn't realise kerry king could play guitar
Nah he only uses kahler
Ricky Kneebone He just can’t play solos
Usually people who don't like Kerry King's soloing prefer Pentatonic (Blues) whereas at least to me he's more free Jazz improvisational. It gives Slayer a nice Yin Yang feel.
Also, the price and demand for these bad boys went through the roof when Brandon smalls (DEathklokguy also snow falcon and thunerhorse guy) used one in a playthrough video he made on you tube.
I didn't know that! Very cool
I looks like something from a cartoon, lol. I'm actually a fan of "metal" guitars but this looks like your dad rockin' a leather jacket and Harley after a mid-life crisis.
@@antma9028 Floyd Rose dont make lefty FRXes, sadly...
@@davetbassbos i resemble that remark 🤣🤘
Would you have that RUclips link? Would be great to see more of this axe in action🙌🏼
That thumb wheel to limit the backwards motion of the bridge is such a good idea.
Pulling up on the bar is terrifying to me so having it set at an interval that I know is safe would be useful, as would being able to prevent backwards movement entirely depending on what you intend to do
They have one of these at my local guitar shop for about 1000, I haven’t played it but I might when quarantines over
Parker Brown where
Not worth it.
Parker Brown what’s the shop called?
You would be a fool not to grab it asap...look how many want it just on this site.. if it's in good shape grab it!! If you can do it..limited run, Gibson, badass lil guitar..sounds like a no brainer.. if say Gibson closed their doors tomorrow..it would take $2500 to buy it Monday!
@NOTE GOAT guitar World and drummers den - Murfreesboro TN
Your playing always captures the essence of the guitars, and your presentations are spot on. Truly a pleasure to make time to watch these :)
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🐕 Episode Guide:
0:18 - Gibson CM Series
1:14 - CM Black Special Features
3:30 - Original Price
5:24 - Floyd FRX Explained / Review
9:52 - Inside Look / Specs
14:51 - Tone Demo
16:34 - Final Thoughts
17:50 - Condition
19:50 - Blacklight Test
20:33 - Gig Bag
📹 Mentioned Videos:
Les Paul CM: ruclips.net/video/uqkQLjkeMHo/видео.html
Black Widow Les Paul: ruclips.net/video/Lv6NLJ3c0YY/видео.html
"kinda got a cool look about 'em" Only Kinda? Dude that thing looks amazing!
I gotta say, I like how much low end spank this thing has! That sounds killer, I bet it would djent well. Love the aesthetic too, which is really unusual for me considering it is an SG. I usually despise the look of SGs, I think the devil horns on the top are a bit much.
For anyone who was curious like I was, Richlite is basically micarta made from recycled paper. It is basically recycled paper stacked up and pressed with phenolic resin.
Thank you Mr. Trogley. Your playing has really improved and the sound quality was great! I know this SG fairly well but I never noticed the font of the truss-rod cover was so KISSish. To me, the only place they should have changed anything on this guitar besides the switch tip, it the font color on the FRX. It should have been red like nearly everything else.
16:00 Dimebag Trogly
I normally hate SGs but I love pretty much everything about that one. The typical SG neck dive defiles what would otherwise be my complete affection for it.
The neck dive and the output jack on the front that is. The SG shape is still ugly in my opinion but some of the specs like the frx, the pickups and the fact it only has two knobs instead of that 4 knob Nonsens would make this guitar quite useful for me. But not with the output jack on the front like that, my wireless doesn't have an angled jack plug and I know I'd break it as soon as I hit the stage with the guitar. And a diving neck isn't a feature, Gibson, it is a flaw and I still don't quite understand why on earth they still haven't done anything against it
@@nilswegner2881 I got it last year at $800 in Reverb.com and actually play it with my Bose Katana Wireless system... If you can get one, go for it (I used to hate SG's as well 'cause of those horns, but.. These Guy is in Another League)!! Cheers from Peru!
@@jorgeloo3131 I'm more into Teles and Superstrats so I don't think I'll add any SG to my collection. A Double Cut LP special maybe because their horns look quite nice but I think the design of an SG is just straight on ugly. I've been using a Thomann t.Bone DS16 wireless system for as long as I play on stages and since it works for me I don't really want to upgrade it. I could of course replace the cable or at least the Jack plug with an angled one, I might even do it for the sake of being eble to sit on the couch with my guitars without bending the cable that much, but what really bothers me about this guitar is that Gibson still haven't fixed the neck dive issue
thanks for bringing this model to light. i JUST finished building a guitar from scratch and that FRX was my choice.
everyone i got to play this has said the frx looks like a brick but after playing they never even noticed.
Sweet SG. That finish is appealing and I think that might the first Floyd Rose setup that I think I might enjoy.
when you added the distortion at 15:53, i could feel that guitar come to life.
My god that's the cleanest, smoothest fingerboard I've ever seen in my life
Dude it is hard to find 1 already, I have be eyeing on CM Black for quite sometimes. Now all will be gone because you document it ...(tears)
Thanks for the video Austin!
I really love this model! Thanks for reviewing
Wish they mass produced these, these look awesome
Pretty cool sg. The richlite fingerboard looks sweet on this one.darn those pu's are smokin
This is the true Batguitar!
Hello there, thank you for the review of the SG CM Black. I've owned mine now for 3years and I absolutely Love it! It has the '59 LP style neck and plays so good! The previous SG I owned was an All American 1998 model that had the typical thin profile SG neck . It played good as well,but the 2016 CM Black has more overall to e due to meatier neck! The Dirty Fingers pick ups are brutal when the volume is on 10! I've discovered however when I go from my 2005 Peavey 5150 II amp to the 1988 Marshall JCM 900 those Dirty Finger pick ups.are so versatile! I can back off the volume knob to 6 or 8 gives you more of the traditional SG tone! So I really Love that aspect of it! It was a limited run so they are definitely hard to find!
Austin, this was a way kooooool vid!...Great attention to detail, especially on the FRX...I'd definitely ROCK IT!
Dear Trogly, don't get me wrong I love your channel (my fav. on YT), but you don't feature enough SGs... They are by far the sexiest 6 string devilish beasts out there. I got 7 of them and love them to death. Keep up the good work; Greetings from Argentina.
David Kronzek thanks 😊 so true!!!!!!! I myself am a fan of Sg’s lol
It's always nice to see how opinions vary. I mostly hate SGs, I think they are ugly and because of neck dive unplayable for me. Also having the output Jack on the front like this would never work for me because I don't have an angled jack plug on my wireless. This one SG is still better than the rest of them because it has done away with the 2 pots per pickup Nonsens and only has master tone and volume knobs which is exactly what I need. Also it does not have that tuneomatic bridge crap that most Gibsons have but rather a Floyd rose which makes it actually usable for me (I need a trem on my guitar for what I play and I'm not a fan of bigsby). But then there's that neck dive and output jack on the front that makes this guitar as worthless as any other SG or Gibson really to me.
@@angusyoung1582 OmG, Angus Young has just commented
I’m not a fan of SG’s but I do like this one
I play since 1983 and played a lot of different guitars but actually never played an SG. Not my cup of tea. It's the whole package...the sound, the look and the list of users.
oh young Padawan, your play is so much better,the force is strong with you!!!
I love my richlite fretboards! They get a lot of hate, but they are so smooth, and very easy to maintain.
I prefer richlite. Like ebony, but better.
Paper. It’s glued paper
And?
What is paper made from?
@@dylanzrim1011 I've always been a fan of Ebony boards, but after getting a Custom with a richlite board, I'm sold. I was a little shocked when I discovered that Martin had been using it for quite a while on their guitars as well. I'm sure time will eventually tell if it was a good idea or not, but it sure seems to be a sturdy product so far.
That was a fun one! I would love to see you document a Gibson SG Angus Young signature model. Those are really nice!
Wow, great demo vid. I am sold on one just from the video. Bad azz guitar!
Now this is a Gibson I’d buy in a heartbeat. Absolute beauty ❤
i like that guitar it's cool that they rout out the back for tremolo. the floyd rose makes awesome.
I ordered one of these Les Paul-models some years ago, just out of curiosity. The looks are up to one‘s taste, I personally like it very much. The finish is my absolute favorite, because it makes the neck easy to play. The trem is absolutely okay, needs to be set up correctly though. There is a small spring which helps to keep it in tune by slightly locking it in the middle position. That can be set up or even removed, but I found this very helpful to stay in tune. The flat top might help with the FRX, since it could touch a heavily carved top. This guitar is absolutely great. The PUs are okay, but again subject to taste and I‘m just about to make a change there. Has anyone ever seen those Dirty Fingers+ sold seperatley?
Thank you trogly as always for the great content I really love listening and sometimes I can even see something lol. Severely legal legally blind so that tends to put a damper on view and stuff depending on the lighting. And it's never ever clear but still it's all good! You know I bought I have a 2005 SG special special. I call it a special special because it was a limited run of with the high wine red gloss finish on it. The finish on that guitar is like a piece of glass literally. I love the feel of it. I can even see it shining and some light I can see the grain so it's a win-win for me. It came with the 490 r and 4902 pickups which I happen to really like at first I didn't think I would like them but I really grown accustomed and enjoy these pickups very much. What's really cool about it is it's neck and that's why I'm commenting. Cuz you had mentioned you know you got the old style fat baseball bat ones and then you have the real thin ones that came out in the late 60s I guess so well the '60s. I had a 69 SG cherry red with a Bixby back when I first taught myself to play guitar in the very early 80s bought it used. Had a very very thin neck. But the neck on this special is like in between it's like the perfect balance between the two. Really really enjoy this guitar. And again the finish on it is flawless except for the few things I put into it lol. Even my 2017 firebird 5 or like you had mentioned the fiber tea for traditional to finish on it is also pretty amazing and since it's a vintage burst you can see wood grain in it and the 9 piece neck through body is also pretty easy to see even for me with the right lighting. But it doesn't have that glass finish feel that my SG has. Anyway that's a lot of something about nothing I guess lol. Thanks again as always always looking forward to your newest video and I really missed any since I found your channel a while back. Keep them coming! Sincerely us, Bob the blind bedroom guitarist
I like it. Looks a little artilleryish. Kinda badass but I bet it handles great. Great in depth insight, as always. Thanks Austin
00:21 - hey i like the looks and layout of that rig. I'm adding that one to the list.
i love the background music! i love your videos!
Austin you must have cabin fever because I've been watching your channel for a long time and can't remember a video this early in the day.
Nah, this is just yesterday's video, but late
@@Trog I should have figured because you have a ton of stuff beside videos like you've said you are months behind on unboxing.Love the channel you are the best RUclips channel among guitar channels.
Always wanted to see you or someone good do a video on these
Got the gold FRX on my SG standard cherry...Love it!!
This is a case where I would much rather see a Kahler trem for its cleaner look and lower profile. I've got Kahlers and Floyds - I like them both in the right applications. thanks for the coverage!
if it didn't have the floyd rose or the block letters on the truss rod it would be beautiful, imo. love the black paint with the wood grain.
Your playing has come on alot, keep going!
You get more upward motion once you actually set it up for floating. Turning the thumbscrew only unblocks the bridge, you have to adjust the tension rod in the back to balance the tension between the strings/back spring. Once that's balanced you'll have a MUCH wider range of motion, similar to an OG floyd
There was also a "voodoo" series with black and red and "blood" stain themes. One coil of each humbucker was red.
I think I just found out what SG I want to find. I had been undecided. No longer.
CM - maybe "custom metal"?
Don't hold your breath, but fingers crossed I'll convince the wife I need this.
i just noticed how the word "black" in the trussrod cover resembles the black sabbath logo. Well, when you stick a tremolo system on a metal sg, that's gotta be a nod to tony iommi. nice one
Haha soo true!! 🤘
Everybody here is saying kiss, and i cant explain how. Its obvious its a Sabbath letering
@@demon3825 I know right?? It's a black sg with a Floyd, not exactly a triple humbucker Les Paul
Thanks for go'n through the CM model. I recall be'n really interested in these, come'n across them on their web site then. I didn't get a chance to check one out unfortunately.. At the time I had a Gibson LP & SG, so I thought why not buy a Floyd top-loader trem and a set of dirty fingers and take my pick of which one I'm gonna put them in n' on. I never did though cause I came across a local cat who was make'n guitars that I like'd way more than the corporate stuff. I sold my Gibson's to buy another one of his. No regrets!
I am not normally a fan of the SG style... but man, that's a nice looking machine.
I love the look of that trem on an sg all black... looks dope
I really love how this guitar looks!
I really like the SG Black but I need a slim neck. Love the Dirty Fingers Plus pickups. I'm buying a set. Great video🎸👍🎸
That setup with the vibrato owns!
always be safe an thank you for posting!
16:24 Troglys becoming wild! Thats the guitar spells!
Hi Trog, been enjoying the in depth "nerd-fest" reviews ( compliment ). You quickly flashed a LP with the P90s pups and I thought I'd give it a go to maybe ask for some review / detail / history of the P90"slugs". They dont seem to be popular, but I would love to know more about it. Even in the midst of loads of reviews of Specials with them, very little mention is made of the pups themselves. Keep it going, and keep well.
Suggestion for that unused route space; put automobile wheel weights in there to get rid of the neck dive.
Man you made me want that SG and I am not an SG kinda bloke. Sounded awesome when you let it rip and as I heard it at my end..
Now that’s one Badass SG
Thats a nice looking guitar I must say.
Oh man, I want it!
Dude I love the SGs they're always so beautiful
🤯 the guitar i never knew i needed! (Im definitely not a trem guy in any form but that looks great). This show always hooks me in haha
I never new about these. I love ‘em!
Love that SG! Love your channel also!
relocate the strap button to the back of the top horn...no more neck dive.
Hmmm..l have a 18 SG HPll with the strap knob on the back of the horn..factory placed..it still dives like a falcon! I want to like the guitar but the heavy head or light body..l don't know what or why it dives but it's to the point l want to put steel in rear cavity or a weighted strap..but it still sadly looks like BRAND NEW because l don't use it. It is the prettiest and one on the best sounding guitars l own but it's annoying to say the very least to play because of the extreme neck dive.
@@jameshill2015 Riff, Beards, and Gear did a video on using wheel weight in the rear cavity here: ruclips.net/video/Ji15Gu12KAg/видео.html
Seems to work pretty well for him (link to weights in his video description), just remember to use shielding tape on them like he does.
I put some lumps of lead in the controls cavity - works. Lead is easy to cut to shape or melt and cast in plaster. Just wear gloves and no kids around. Great guitar and still not heavy, just balances.
Can't stand them on the back makes the strap pull and cut into your shoulder just do a fender and drill that horn
@@bradlivey7867 l would only want enough weight to balance the thing..it's not a heavy guitar as far as my stable goes. The further l could put the weight to the bottom button the less extra weight l would need. I am leaning towards a leather sleeve around bottom of strap with a pocket for lead shot to adjust it to perfection without modding guitar. The top strap button as l said is already in the back of top horn...from factory Gibson.
I like everything about this SG!
The FRX is designed to be a drill-less mod on a typical USA Gibson (outside of the optional locking nut). I'm a Floyd player, and the FRX is kinda like a happy medium between a modern Strat trem and a standard Floyd (it's almost like a typical Kahler). I'm not And yeah, the inserts for Nashville bridge are intended to be pressed into the body...so yeah, you could easily convert that into a standard Tuneomatic/Stop Tailpiece configuration.
The Dean Zelinsky Z Glide neck is a laser-engraved pattern designed to minimize the effective surface area of the neck for faster playing. It's a VERY different feel from a standard satin or oiled maple neck (I've played a Z Glide and it's really nice...but I prefer the unfinished, tung oiled maple necks on my Kiesels). I love the Dirty Fingers+...but I'm a hard rock/metal girl :)
I absolutely LOVE this axe!!!
The frx actually looks really good on that sg
I own the cm black les paul and i absolutely love it. It sounds and plays and looks amazing😂🤘
Can’t use locking but with regular bridge.
It pulls the strings out, you’d need one of those super custom tail pieces with the fine tuners at a minimum
2016 was the best year for modern Gibsons. The reason you like that satin finish so much is because for 2016 it is an actual Nitrocellulose finish unlike other years where they would use cheaper chemical treatments. The only Les Paul I own is a 2016 studio with the same satin finish :)
That Floyd rose thing is what I’m getting for an epiphone explorer when I get one
Ok, just a tip for anyone considering putting a Floyd rose FRX on their guitar I would like to give you some tips as someone who put one on their Wylde audio odin grail
1.) if you don’t use a Gibson the carve of the top does matter and if it’s to carved (like on my odin grail) you’ll need to get it routed out so the compression spring can work
2.) you can use a D-Tuna on it but you physically won’t be able to pull it back plus you loose some fine Tuning range (I would suggest tuning the low E a bit flatter then you normally would with the other bass strings)
3.) you can make it EXTREMELY loose to the point where you push it down with a pinky
4.) PLEASE use normal gauge strings, if you try and use a Hendrix type gauge with it the tuning stability WILL go down the toilet so I would recommend something like a normal set of 10’s or 11’s for normal Gibsons with an FRX
5.) the locking nut system that comes with the guitar has screws that may be to big so I would suggest going to Home Depot and buying the same size screw just smaller
That is the coolest SG I have seen! I love everything about it.
Stays in tune because looks like they used a valve spring, which is designed to come back, quickly, to closed. Genius for the application.
Wish you would do more brands of guitars, including niche brands.
Hey, take in mind that Floyd rose can be set up with heavy duty springs (I have Gotoh fr with hd springs) and for start I was sure I will break sth with full dive bombs, but no, everything rock solid. So probably this frx is similar:)
It seems to me that the Floyd FRX does pretty similar things like the Stetsbar system. Both top mount (Stetsbar is a fully non-invasive mount on a tune-o-matic & stoptail thread config), allow to pitch down and up, and are able to lock. The springs in the Stetsbar do not work against you that much, in the movement is lateral rather than rotating around a knife edge post...one more similarity: They are bith pricey😉.
This guitar has eluded me for 4 years! Everytime one pops up i dont have to money for it, and when i do it has dissapeared.
Im in love with this guitar
Going to borrow that riff.
I played one of these, and i loved it
I just bought one today for £750, been looking for one since this video came out.
This might just be my new dream guitar...
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
Wanted one of those for so long as a kid.........
Now 17....
Chose to go the traditional Les Paul Way
looks amazing!
I'm not a Floyd Rose guy but I'd go for one of those especially if it had a 24 fret neck.
Love the look of it. Not a fan of a floating tremolo. I would swap it out. I do like just one volume and one tone control though
I think the high output pickups agrees with you, I liked the sound of that. Full and punchy. Maybe you need to hang out with the big ohm pickups a bit more :)
I like how it says Black in the KISS logo font on the truss rod cover.
What I’d do is swap out the controls for a set of dual concentric pots that way I get my dual volume/tone without drilling new holes
Where is the Chibson Double neck video??
I had a Gibson studio LP that had similar looking wood, the guitar felt so cheap I had to get rid of it. I also had an Gibson SG standard which was awesome and I regret selling it
Hey trogly. I just wanted to point out that you can add timestamps in your timeline now. I'm not entirely sure how, but I saw on Agufish's video (the one before today's upload) that the video had it. Maybe reach out to him and see how to do it? I tried searching but all I could find were people complaining the got rid of sharing videos at specific time stamps....
Just a QoL update thought you might like since you add timestamps often
Trogly! Love your show! I love Gibson's myself! I have 2! I just have 1 question? What's the difference between the Gibson Dirty Fingers, and the Gibson Dirty Fingers + ???🤔
I had a 80s gun metal grey SG special that was great.