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  • Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
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    📚 Description: Today we are taking an in-depth look at the new Epiphone Inspired by Gibson Les Paul Special in TV yellow finish. I had a feeling these would be a great deal... but I honestly think Epiphone has these new TV Specials priced a bit too fairly! $399 for one of these seems like a fantastic bargain and leaves you lots of room to buy a nice hardshell case or upgrade your pickups!
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  • @Trog
    @Trog  4 года назад +84

    For $399 - I don't think you can go wrong with one of these... if they ever come back in stock that is!
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    🐕 Episode Guide:
    0:11 - Epiphone 2020
    Original Collection
    0:42 - A Great Value?
    1:28 - First Impressions
    3:42 - Inside Look
    10:48 - Tone Demo
    13:00 - Final Thoughts
    15:33 - Blacklight Test
    15:50 - Box
    📹 Mentioned Videos:
    50s Standard: ruclips.net/video/Ocy7-1h8Z6c/видео.html
    TV Yellow Explained: blog.warmoth.com/2016/02/09/tv-yellow-faded-origin-classic-guitar-color/
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    • @GolddenWaffles
      @GolddenWaffles 4 года назад +3

      The Trogly's Guitar Show Yeah they get me wet! Great Guitars! Love ‘em! Btw rest a little you’re uploading like crazy but still thank you!

    • @bbeenn
      @bbeenn 4 года назад +4

      They get the finish right on the $129 special I

    • @d-mack7053
      @d-mack7053 4 года назад +11

      The lower the price the better........Case closed.

    • @katiatrajano9695
      @katiatrajano9695 4 года назад +1

      Hey Trogly, maybe one day you should build and buy a custom Fender made using its own Mod Shop tool. It is kind cool and would be a cool series with the building + the result after a couple of weeks

    • @alejandroaguilar4833
      @alejandroaguilar4833 4 года назад

      hey Trogly's would you make a rock or not from the telecaster from evangelion ?
      twitter.com/somoskudasai/status/1254915721160724486

  • @ronmay5589
    @ronmay5589 2 года назад +128

    You got your wish, they just raised the price by $50. Way to go.

    • @daveyrock6521
      @daveyrock6521 2 года назад +1

      That’s really not a lot..

    • @ronmay5589
      @ronmay5589 2 года назад +35

      @@daveyrock6521 Not to me. I have a lot a of expensive guitars, and can buy anything I want. But for the guys that need to buy budget guitars, another $50 is a big deal.

    • @picoandfriends8128
      @picoandfriends8128 Год назад

      😭

    • @popelanedafirst
      @popelanedafirst Год назад +11

      Now it’s $499

    • @amoruzz
      @amoruzz Год назад +7

      Yeah, he's really doing some brown nosing with price word salad. 👎

  • @bdnavalbuilds9790
    @bdnavalbuilds9790 4 года назад +817

    Definitely a great guitar for the price! However, I gotta say..... Why are you encouraging them to raise prices!?

    • @Tomcat761
      @Tomcat761 4 года назад +19

      BD Naval Builds no shit!!

    • @thomastucker5686
      @thomastucker5686 4 года назад +19

      Supporting epi is giving Gibson the license to rip us off. Substandard guitars shouldn't get praise. This isn't the model of craftsmanship or good business. They are intentionally building crap to force over priced guitars on the public that really aren't worth it. I tried to find a LP for 2k and I was willing to go over budget for the right guitar and I couldn't find one with a better finish than my epi. I couldn't find one that had the neck quality or the nut cut, fret finish as my epi. I was beside myself when I was so excited to finally by my first real Gibson. I couldn't do it. The guitars weren't worth 2k.

    • @tunesmith7437
      @tunesmith7437 4 года назад +33

      Because he gets too snippy from time to time.

    • @phillipholt6005
      @phillipholt6005 4 года назад +63

      This made me remove some respect for this channel. He must be independently wealthy!

    • @ibex3964
      @ibex3964 4 года назад +42

      He should know nobody is as rich him.

  • @Marceloriighiii
    @Marceloriighiii 4 года назад +308

    Please change the title, they will raise the price

    • @cmiddleton9872
      @cmiddleton9872 3 года назад +2

      @@AnimationByDylan I know you commented months ago, but this is demonstrably false. The guitar’s price has not changed. I just checked the epiphone website.

    • @isyourshitfixed
      @isyourshitfixed Год назад

      499$ rn

  • @dextacchino7140
    @dextacchino7140 4 года назад +119

    Trogly, my mom just passed away Sunday and was my world. Your videos and expertise in the guitar world keeps me going. Thank you, Sir Trogly… I’m a Troglodyte to the core.

    • @AmperahGaming
      @AmperahGaming 3 года назад +7

      As another Troglodyte my heart goes out to you ❤️

    • @michaelsablan8772
      @michaelsablan8772 2 года назад +3

      Aloha Braddah….I am only now watching this video and just wanted to say that I am sorry that you lost your Mom. That was some time ago and I know you were really reflecting back since Mother’s Day recently came and went. Aloha nui loa….

    • @davidkenneth3983
      @davidkenneth3983 Год назад +1

      So sorry for your loss.

    • @Dogsrule777
      @Dogsrule777 Год назад +1

      I know it’s been a bit but I’m so sorry for your loss. I lost my father a month before my wedding years ago and I think about him everyday.

  • @SocksworthRiffs
    @SocksworthRiffs 4 года назад +301

    I disagree, the prices are exactly where they should be

    • @danw1955
      @danw1955 4 года назад +19

      Absolutely, especially considering they're just an 'official' version of the Chibson (i.e. made in China).😜

    • @mikhailplatonov8039
      @mikhailplatonov8039 4 года назад +8

      Dan W chibsons are made not by luthiers but by just random people in garages without any quality control, this on is made by nice workers and went through quality control

    • @Lydsum
      @Lydsum 4 года назад +17

      @@danw1955 you know that China can have awesome quality control, don't you?

    • @Murderachi
      @Murderachi 4 года назад +4

      Yeah he over explained it and kinda advertised it as a huge deal it just looks normal for 400

    • @bambostarla6259
      @bambostarla6259 4 года назад +2

      Agreed. 400$ is right cosidering its a stripped down les paul

  • @jamesslockbower700
    @jamesslockbower700 4 года назад +268

    What's wrong with you ? Never tell epiphone to raise the price on any guitar ever. That goes for any guitar company ! No wonder a duosonic costs 2k : (

    • @StankoAx
      @StankoAx 4 года назад +22

      True. Not with machines that are used today. Prices should be dropping, if anything, at least for standard models manufactured in masses.

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 4 года назад +7

      He didn't literally mean they should be priced higher. I dunno why so many in the comments seem to think that. He's just saying they're great value for money. I mean as if Gibson are gonna take orders from a relatively small RUclipsr, no offense to Trogly cos I love this channel. But yeah big corporations don't make decisions like that based on the titles of RUclips videos

    • @dolfan1318
      @dolfan1318 4 года назад +34

      @@duffman18 You're incorrect sir. He specifically stated that the $399 price tag should be raised to at least $499. I don't know how you can be more literal than that.

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 3 года назад +3

      @@auntjenifer7774 how old are you? Because that's really naive. That's like the little kids who write to big companies or something like that expecting that they'll change anything. Corporations have literally billions tied up in how they structure their pricing, they hire executive CFOs for that. Plus you're talking about general trends among millions of people, which is nothing to do with what I said, you're having a different conversation, talking about a different topic. It's easy to argue against something nobody said. But do you _really_ think they're gonna throw out all of their expensive analysis and and top class executives and their entire marketing and analysis department and just watch a single video by a tiny RUclips channel and go "hey you know what, he's right, let's just throw away those millions of dollars we spent and just follow this guy's advice"? Cos if you do then aww honey, no, that's not how big corporations work, dear. They spend a crazy amount on analysing the market, even at times when they absolutely have no reason to (market analysis departments sometimes invent work for themselves so they can maintain their yearly budget and their jobs, doing busywork). They analyse the market and the Internet and trends as a whole, as you said, but I never mentioned that at all. So really you agree with me, so thank you.

    • @blueninja2944
      @blueninja2944 3 года назад

      what duo sonics cost 2k? the most expensive duo sonics that fender currently makes is $679.99

  • @richardsandson
    @richardsandson 4 года назад +35

    I'd take those P90's over the Probucker set up in my Epi standard Pro. They sound as good as any demo I've heard on here. It's crazy how much guitar you can get for the money these days. The new learners don't realise how good they've got it half the time.

    • @donvape336
      @donvape336 4 года назад +1

      I have been eyeing the standard pro. Are you serious?

    • @markr2159
      @markr2159 2 года назад

      Any chance you could walk through how to measure pickups output? (Equipment required and steps.)

    • @jordanpratt3821
      @jordanpratt3821 2 года назад +2

      Yeah man holy shit.When I was learning "affordable" guitars were virtually unplayable.

  • @bernardibrahim
    @bernardibrahim 4 года назад +319

    Shut up Austin, dont be giving them ideas. Considering craftsmanship these days, people deserve lower retail prices. It will trade for more later if it really worth that much. Things will show its value overtime . Man i dont know im just cranky drooling over your videos

    • @shanewalton8888
      @shanewalton8888 4 года назад +20

      Austin advocating higher prices. He has lost touch with the common man. Inflated prices is one reason Gibson is hated. If Fender can put out a $150 Bullet Squier strat, Gibson should have Epiphone doing the same. Enough of this price gouging at the "low" end.

    • @Ripprock1
      @Ripprock1 4 года назад +1

      Fatt Philosopher agree with you. Also wish that it would be my last Ch purchase but. He sold 1 anyway. It sounds good and I will love having it in my collection.

  • @billsultzbach7079
    @billsultzbach7079 4 года назад +5

    I recently purchased one of these for my son. And it rips! Four four hundred bucks P90 sound great the neck feels great has great tone great stain. Can't beat it for the money

  • @Medic63
    @Medic63 4 года назад +185

    Why, oh WHY would you want Epiphone to charge more? These are, in the end, a Chinese made product, and they aren't going to pay the workers more just because they charge more for the guitar. Their workers might be getting paid enough to buy food, but not much more than that. If the company charges more for the product, it's going right in the executives' pockets.

    • @MEDiumInc
      @MEDiumInc 4 года назад +24

      Really? ya'll are dumb. He is not saying they should LITERALLY charge you more for these guitars. He's saying this guitar could easily be sold in a higher price bracket. So the fact that its being sold in this price bracket, is a really great deal.

    • @flapjack413
      @flapjack413 4 года назад +8

      For real. I think if they were to charge more, a lot of people would just buy the Harley Benton version that's probably built in the same factory, for half the price.

    • @ciggy_
      @ciggy_ 4 года назад +4

      It’s not like It’s any different in an American factory, but maybe that wasn’t your point?

    • @colonelschwatz6941
      @colonelschwatz6941 4 года назад +3

      @Eric Kunz Why should the worker get paid more if the company were selling them at a higher price and making more money? Using your logic, when the company is losing money, should the worker get paid less in relationship to how much the company is losing? Earnings are down ten percent so the worker takes a ten percent cut to his own earnings, right? Socialism NEVER works.

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 4 года назад +5

      @@colonelschwatz6941 what on earth are you on about? That's not what socialism is...
      Go read a book

  • @craigbarber5272
    @craigbarber5272 4 года назад +2

    Trogly, I don't know how you do the channel, pack, ship, order, shop; spend time with your family, AND practice. You're getting better with everything I see from B roll to the playing on your demo's. Thanks for the distraction and education, keep at it and THANK YOU.

  • @SkaJon
    @SkaJon 4 года назад +8

    I got both the Junior and the Special as soon as they were listed on Sweetwater. I have to say as much as I love Juniors. The Special is where’s it at for these Epiphones. What a VALUE! Perfect punk and reggae guitar. I hope Epiphone will produce a Double Cut model.

  • @TheOGRett
    @TheOGRett 4 года назад +88

    “THIS... is an Epiphone Les Paul Special”

    • @justingarzamusic
      @justingarzamusic 4 года назад +17

      RettFFA I can hear Doug In my head haha

    • @RockBassTv
      @RockBassTv 4 года назад +1

      Austin, Doug & Tyler the everyday heroes of mine!

    • @BillStreetStudios
      @BillStreetStudios 4 года назад +5

      Trogly's the Doug of guitars

    • @jimmyelectric
      @jimmyelectric 4 года назад

      RettFFA omg

    • @Bob_at_OZDiggzguitars
      @Bob_at_OZDiggzguitars 4 года назад

      ahh, Daddy Doug..I'm a Hoovie sub...let's all hope no one goes Tyler's way with Guitars..."The stupidest guitar channel on RUclips"..."I just bought the cheapest '59 Gibson LP in the USA" yeah, in splinters....lol

  • @rickbrown3426
    @rickbrown3426 3 года назад +2

    I bought one from a salesperson other than my usual guy at Sweetwater and I asked if it could be plekked and if I could get stainless steel frets and a setup just for fun because a friend of mine bought one and I LOVED it already and I already knew I would be happy with it but I really was surprised that a lady from Gibson in Nashville called me back and asked exactly how I would like it set up and which fret size I preferred. I got Med jumbo SS frets and it is plekked (I hope that spelling is correct, my iPhone marks it red anyway) the intonation is pretty much on, I mean REALLY close and I wanted a case so it came in a Gibson Les Paul case that said Gibson on the outside. I checked the specs out of the box like yours, case came separately, and specs were 3/64 high E and 5/64 low E just as she asked me. The pickups are very articulate at just before breakup on the volume and tone knobs which are very lively and scream or cry with just a touch between 5 and 9.5, 10 is on fire. I couldn’t be happier with the service or price of this guitar. I did pay for plek (Sp) and setup but she put my preferred GHS .009-42 strings on it too which I didn’t have to pay for. I honestly think that the Nashville employee I spoke with was as excited to throw this axe together as I was to get it! I can’t recommend it highly enough, and the Sweetwater experience is always great. I was very surprised to see you do a “Cheap” guitar! This one sure doesn’t feel or sound cheap. I’m recording through an early 90’s AC30, a Deluxe Reverb and a JCM 900 half stack and it’s just awesome. I’m so happy that you thought it was cool too because I respect your opinion so much! Take caaare!

  • @Bliggick
    @Bliggick 4 года назад +4

    I wouldn't be telling them to raise their prices because let's face it, it's not that this guitar is so cheap, it's that the Gibsons are way over-priced. Remember, when Gibson came out with these models in the 50's it was supposed to be a budget model. A new Gibson LP Special in TV yellow these days is not a cheap, affordable guitar.

  • @BeeDedicated
    @BeeDedicated 4 года назад +4

    Two of my best guitars. In fact, the two that get played the most: My Epiphone Masterbilt DR-500 MCE and my Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Pro in desert burst. I have far more expensive guitars, but the sound, the tone, the playability and the quality (granted Epiphone can be a bit inconsistent), trumps the others. When you find the right Epiphone, you've found a great guitar.

  • @anthonyd5189
    @anthonyd5189 4 года назад +7

    Got mine right when they came out and I love it. It's one of my go to guitars right now.

    • @jettcalimyrna729
      @jettcalimyrna729 4 года назад +2

      Me too, I got one of the first ones (in Europe) and I use it every day. It is fantastic!

  • @charliewallace54
    @charliewallace54 4 года назад +26

    I don’t know about you, but I’d really like to see a P90 goldtop

    • @biggrease7929
      @biggrease7929 3 года назад

      You’re getting your wish- check out JJN’s sig

  • @ericochoa25
    @ericochoa25 4 года назад +3

    This is the review i was waiting for! I’ve been holding off and buying it until I saw your review

  • @rickbrown3426
    @rickbrown3426 2 года назад +4

    I absolutely adore mine just the way it came! I’m a super big fan of all of the Epi inspired by line and I have bought at least 7 of 8. I don’t think that by the time the tone of the guitar makes it through the PA and crowd that they can hear or see the very small differences, but they CAN hear and appreciate the sparkle and screaming of these p 90’s and me and my Marshall just love them! I’d like to have the LP Jr too but there’s no reason too I don’t suppose.
    I’ve written 3 of the songs to come out on my new LP and just in heaven with the high gain on both pickups. I say buy one.., oh and mine came in a very nice Gibson LP case as well!!!

  • @corybo
    @corybo 3 года назад +4

    I got my first ever lp. Epiphone classic 2020. Quality and sound is amazing. I love it. So cheap too.

  • @srwaite7
    @srwaite7 2 месяца назад +2

    Even at $499 it still offers a lot of value! I picked up a used 2020 in Mint condition for $399 and love it. 😍

  • @upside4078
    @upside4078 3 года назад +1

    Love your reviews, purchased this model from Sweetwater in February! Still waiting………

  • @richhughes5784
    @richhughes5784 4 года назад +13

    I have the 2019 Gibson version, still haven't gotten used to the chunky neck, but love the sound of the p90s. Very cool looking guitars, though.

    • @WyattScott
      @WyattScott 2 года назад

      i have the 2020 Gibson version and can’t get used to the neck either. I may sell it because of the neck just too fucking fat. Really bummed cause i want to love it but it’s a struggle to play

  • @jackp3125
    @jackp3125 4 года назад +35

    10:48 Man, that chord progression was something unpredictable...

    • @krisberntzen
      @krisberntzen 4 года назад +9

      I hope you had the time of your life

    • @Hexspa
      @Hexspa 4 года назад +5

      But, in the end, it was right

    • @getredytagetredy
      @getredytagetredy 4 года назад

      Jack P ...homie needs to go to the woodshed for serendipity instead of standing in front of a camera

  • @ak47dragunov
    @ak47dragunov 4 года назад +10

    P90s tend to sound consistently fantastic despite price range. I'm definitely tempted to pick one of these bad boys up.

    • @paulterl4563
      @paulterl4563 4 года назад

      My Epi jr SC has a pickup that needed some 'washers ' to put it higher and it sound .....dead.
      And it's from the Custom Shop and it is a reissue.
      Go figure it!...

    • @jonathanhandsmusic
      @jonathanhandsmusic 4 года назад +1

      You should. It's a very nice guitar and the p90s are great. I'm glad I got one as I like it a lot more than the Strat I've had for 25 years.

  • @mattjones8523
    @mattjones8523 4 года назад +11

    When money is a little bit better, my wife has given her blessing for me getting this guitar that will be dubbed "Colonel Mustard."

  • @sawbonesquad4876
    @sawbonesquad4876 4 года назад +53

    ah yes, the one no one ever has in stock.

  • @lakesidehog9525
    @lakesidehog9525 4 года назад +113

    If they let you see the grain, you'd see the 5 pieces they used to make the body.....lols

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle 4 года назад +12

      I bet the 17-piece 'Mahogany' Chipboard looks great with dried egg yolk smeared over it ... ! 🤣

    • @paulterl4563
      @paulterl4563 4 года назад

      Yeah...

    • @jake_of_the_jungle9840
      @jake_of_the_jungle9840 4 года назад +8

      Still probably plays better than a Gibson

    • @jonv5489
      @jonv5489 4 года назад +5

      @@jake_of_the_jungle9840 Sorry dude, but my R8 destroys my special. But my ’59 Replica destroys my R8. But my special destroys my ’59. And so, the circle of destruction continues…
      But really my non Gibson ’59 Replica is the best guitar I own.

    • @MikeODandy
      @MikeODandy 4 года назад +1

      @@jonv5489 Who was the builder?

  • @sambleach
    @sambleach 4 года назад +2

    I was soooooo looking forward to this video, I already ordered mine, seems to me like the perfect sofa guitar, something cheap but sturdy to play every day, and I really liked the sound of the P90's in the demo. As always, great job, I really appreciate how educational is your channel :)

  • @d-mack7053
    @d-mack7053 4 года назад +93

    The lower the price the better........

  • @sassycat
    @sassycat 4 года назад +57

    There's something rude, nasty, and primal to cranked P-90's that lends itself well to the sound of Rock and Roll better than the more refined PAF humbucker.

    • @chrisdidonna7371
      @chrisdidonna7371 4 года назад +4

      Listen to it on gibson tv epiphone giveway. One of the days its the guitar played

    • @jaredallen439
      @jaredallen439 4 года назад +3

      Exactly. All three of my Les Paul's have P90s for this reason. Well, one has P94s, but close enough.

    • @russellesimonetta3835
      @russellesimonetta3835 4 года назад

      Yeah ,, I get one in my hands and I kick off Mississippi Queen!

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 4 года назад

      The original PAF design had a lower output than the p90s of the time. And so therefore so does modern examples of the vintage PAF like the Dimarzio PAF and the Seymour Duncan Seth Lover. But even ignoring the output, P90s sound both fat and raw at the same time, they're so aggressive when you want them to be, but they're also good at cleaning up and doing a more bluesy strat kinda tone with the right EQ settings
      They're the most versatile kind of pickup. But yeah metal guitarists are often using teles and strats for recording these days, because those bridge single coils sound so much more raw and angry with high gain than any humbucker, so it's a good idea for example to double track a guitar part, recording once with high output humbuckers, then recording the same part again with a tele, and overdubbing them together to get a more rounded tone. A lot of high output humbuckers are designed to make the sound more "clean". Not the usual meaning of clean. But sort of less surrounding noise and more precise notes that just "djent" very easily, whereas single coils and lower output humbuckers can be very "messy". That's the purpose of active EMG pickups for example, to have that more "clean" type of sound. But obviously to a lot of guitarists that kinda defeats the point, metal is often about being loud and angry and messy.
      But p90s are probably the "messiest" pickup of all. They're more fat than fender style single coils, more messy and angry and raw, and I love it. They're so loud with the 60 cycle hum and all that but I've never been bothered by that hum of single coils, it's easily removed if you want to do so by using a noise gate, and in a live situation the audience will never hear that hum in the mix anyway.
      I can't wait to buy this epiphone lp special. Once the pandemic is over, obviously. I don't want to put people at risk by buying one now. So I hope they're still making them in 2021 when the pandemic is over, that this isn't a one year only model. But they've been so enormously popular I doubt they'll stop making them. But yeah I've got a Dean Palomino which has 3 p90s with strat type wiring (so it has those hum cancelling 2 and 4 positions too) and I love the tone, but it's a big old hollowbody guitar and so feedbacks so easily when you turn up the gain, so I really want this epi for that same kind of tone but none of the feedback. Just a big old no nonsense slab of wood with pickups attached. Love it

    • @jaredallen439
      @jaredallen439 4 года назад +1

      @jacktheripped it's basically just a p90 shaped like a humbucker so you don't need to route your guitar. But changing the shape of the pickup changes the sound, so it's not quite like a true p90, it's got its own tone. Kind of a p90/humbucker blend. I like it, to be honest, but prefer regular p90s.

  • @paulypoobrain2929
    @paulypoobrain2929 4 года назад +36

    I feel like Epiphone is trying to compete with the Harley Bentons of the world by putting it at that price point.

    • @ShannonsCompany
      @ShannonsCompany 4 года назад +3

      Pauly Poobrain but not as cheap as harleys

    • @paulypoobrain2929
      @paulypoobrain2929 4 года назад +2

      Shannon+Kyle not 100% true. Harley Benton has some models in the $350 range.

    • @ShannonsCompany
      @ShannonsCompany 4 года назад +2

      Pauly Poobrain oh really? I need to check those out! Thanks!

    • @MrMally1951
      @MrMally1951 4 года назад

      and Failing

    • @Grayjacket11
      @Grayjacket11 4 года назад +4

      Harley Benton SC and DC Juniors are ~$180 (before shipping)
      the Epiphone Junior is $380 and the Special is $400
      doesn't seem like competitive pricing to me :P

  • @stratdude83
    @stratdude83 4 года назад +1

    You talked me into it...pre-ordered a P-90 Special yesterday from Sweetwater! Can't wait! Thanks for the review

  • @dn5406
    @dn5406 4 года назад +2

    I got a Epi LP Special worn Cherry with P-90s for $129 a few years ago and it's one of my favs. It just rips and so comfy. Great grain and great out da box. Love Epi P-90s.

    • @anthonycall5566
      @anthonycall5566 3 года назад

      I have a 2014 and it’s easily my favorite guitar

  • @KilljoyRockmusic
    @KilljoyRockmusic 4 года назад +8

    I would go for these in a heartbeat, if Epiphone eventually would release them as lefty versions. C'mon Epiphone do it!!!!

  • @ahhhhyes
    @ahhhhyes 4 года назад +10

    Absolutely love that colour!!!!

  • @nate_vz
    @nate_vz 4 года назад +1

    You're killing me Trogly! I placed my order in February and I'm still waiting! I need a new guitar toy for my quarantine jams.

  • @michaelbutler7780
    @michaelbutler7780 3 года назад +1

    I appreciate your videos man, your complete in depth reviews really help me with my purchases. I'm not a great player but I love to collect and do my best to get better. You're a big help on obtaining as close to the real deal for price point as possible.

  • @tunesmith7437
    @tunesmith7437 4 года назад +69

    You have a lot of nerve saying these "are priced to low". Some nerve dude.

    • @captainamerica9353
      @captainamerica9353 3 года назад +1

      SongMaker 67 , he actually said they "are priced too low".

  • @BLeeMuller
    @BLeeMuller 4 года назад +40

    That headstock is great looking. It reminds me of the 60's/70's Epiphone headstocks

    • @bipbipletucha
      @bipbipletucha 4 года назад +12

      I think that's what they were going for

    • @UCEg7z1wK
      @UCEg7z1wK 4 года назад +1

      It’s only budgeted products for beginners and had to make them in China to meet the profits, don’t ever expect detail craftsmanship.
      When they made Epi in Japan until 90’s ? Those are some real nice guitars,
      and they still worth a lot in the used market .
      Btw, I just took these vids as a joke!

    • @NotDingse
      @NotDingse 4 года назад +2

      Tony Winsfield you shouldn’t. Trogly isn’t joking.

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 4 года назад +3

      @@UCEg7z1wK epiphone have higher build quality than Gibson does these days. Seriously. They're too quality instruments being made in China. So much these days is done with machines that are way more precise than any human making them by hand could ever be. Google "PLEK machine" fr example. They're machines that do a 3D scan of any guitar and then set it up for you, adjusting the action and intonation and the truss rod etc extremely precisely, like fractions of a millemetre precise
      Asia is the king of guitars these days. Even for the highest quality guitars, you want to go with Asian over American. Indonesia for example makes some of the best quality instruments ever produced. American guitars have a premium added to them before the guitar is even made, and then tend to have way more issues both aesthetic and playability wise. Just watch any of the videos Trogly has made on new Gibson models in the past few years for a boatload of examples. By default if you get a brand new Gibson you'll be getting problems with finish cracking, issues with the binding, issues with the frets and the action, issues with the pickups etc. America has fallen behind. At least with the big companies. The boutique luthiers are probably still the best in the world. But for mass produced guitars (and by mass produced I mean maybe even as low numbers as 200 guitars or something, rather than boutique custom shop stuff) go with Asia. Solar guitars, for example, are maybe the most consistently well made brand of all, and they're all made in Indonesia

    • @alwaysopen7970
      @alwaysopen7970 4 года назад

      @@duffman18 The PLEK machine does all of that for you? From what I have seen, it levels the frets. How does it adjust the truss rod and bridge? What did we do before PLEK machines?

  • @JohnMcGFrance
    @JohnMcGFrance 3 года назад +1

    Mine arrived today. It’s fantastic! Plays well out of the box. Action is fine antonation is close enough for me! Sounds brilliant. Tons of sustain and pickups that have real grunt. Tone controls actually work! Not the often found on/off. Love it!!!

  • @patrickkeenan6331
    @patrickkeenan6331 4 года назад +6

    Man, that middle clean tone was perfect.

  • @TheFunktipus1
    @TheFunktipus1 4 года назад +9

    Oi! Dont be tellin epiphone to raise the price!! Hard enough saving for a new guitar as it is.

  • @eduardo0796
    @eduardo0796 4 года назад +22

    I am a simple man. I see a new Trogly video, I click.

    • @Deke1
      @Deke1 4 года назад +6

      that's why you're a simple man

  • @d1yon
    @d1yon Год назад +1

    Awesome review! planning to get this guitar this year and also the chord progression you played in the tone demo was definitely Good Riddance by Green Day!

  • @rexnavarro2918
    @rexnavarro2918 4 года назад +2

    Great Review! As Gibson did with the relaunch of their models under the new ownership, the neck profiles on these new Epiphones are much better. For a while it seemed like everything from Epiphone was a slim taper neck profile. Keep up the good work and continue to make informative yet entertaining videos.

  • @johnfritz15
    @johnfritz15 4 года назад +36

    I’ve always thought of these as Gibson’s answer to the telecaster.

    • @hearthshinemusic2941
      @hearthshinemusic2941 4 года назад +1

      and the sg's to the strats?
      also, do you know when did the Les Paul and the tele first came out? I know (or at least I think so) they're from the early 50's

    • @johnm3946
      @johnm3946 4 года назад

      I thought that when he said the middle position was choice

    • @gloryxkid
      @gloryxkid 4 года назад +1

      Hearthshine Music not too sure. I know the telecaster deluxe was meant to convert les Paul users over to fender

    • @JoshBattershell
      @JoshBattershell 4 года назад +1

      Hearthshine Music Les Paul was 1952 and tele was late 1950 and it wasn’t called that yet. It was called the Broadcaster but they got sued and named it to telecaster. Early 1950 the fender esquire was their first electric guitar and it was essentially a telecaster with just one pickup and the controls were way different.

    • @simontemplar3359
      @simontemplar3359 4 года назад

      Fair point. The P90 is my favorite pickup. I'm primarily a tele player, but I have a Harley benton with p90s in it and the sound is just a bit in both worlds. If the HB weren't half the price with shipping, I'd grab one. I love the finish and how its close to a junior stylistically.

  • @bryonkidder6199
    @bryonkidder6199 4 года назад +5

    They're almost impossible to get or I'd have one...lol
    An inexpensive version of the best guitar ever made, can't beat that!

  • @flyingv7161
    @flyingv7161 8 месяцев назад +1

    One important thing that nobody usually highlights, is the FLAT TOP
    which is way more comfortable to play, to have more control on the strings, having your wrist better sitting on the body, permitting a more ergonomic posture of the rigtht arm.
    And that's why the best soloist guitarists use stratocasters and the like, because the flat top body

    • @flyingv7161
      @flyingv7161 8 месяцев назад

      Arch-top is a useless annoying feature that Gibson brought from the hollow-body archtops derived from violins, that were put on the Les Paul only for a fashion

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen 5 месяцев назад

      You need to let Joe Bonamassa and Joe Walsh know. They might be wasting energy.

  • @garycole4287
    @garycole4287 3 года назад +2

    The Moderne I just bought the neck is really nice & no fret issues & has a beautiful pau ferro fretboard

  • @bpabustan
    @bpabustan 4 года назад +5

    when Sweet Emotion was played.....that's it, this is a good guitar for the money!

  • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
    @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 4 года назад +3

    It's bad enough companies ramping the prices of cheap pedals up exponentially after a good RUclips review. They definitely do not need RUclipsrs recommending that they do. Poor show Austin you have certainly let me down if not many more of your subscribers. To me Epiphone is my Gibson and at 54 I doubt that that will ever change. I don't choose Epiphone over Gibson by preference (though in general they are a wonderful guitar) but rather because of financial restraints. Gibson's are a once in a lifetime purchase for the majority of people, bought probably after years of putting money aside. Don't help put Epiphones out of our reach, they are the closest many of us will get to a Gibson 😠😡😠

  • @rizkierwin6488
    @rizkierwin6488 3 года назад +1

    Well, not everybody have 399usd to play around.
    Let alone if the price is rising due to your suggestion.

  • @bentleyroy3943
    @bentleyroy3943 4 года назад +20

    Andertons did a review of this guitar next to the Gibson model along with the Epi and Gibson Jr. The specials are so close in sound that it’s just not worth buying the Gibson unless you just have to have a Gibson. The Jr on the other hand sounds a lot different.

    • @Les537
      @Les537 4 года назад +5

      The sound, but also the finish. Nitro guitars feel wonderful as the age. Poly guitars feel like plastic toys.

    • @randompheidoleminor3011
      @randompheidoleminor3011 4 года назад +1

      Yeah. Epiphone likes to drown their guitars in lacquer. And that's coming from someone who _likes_ lacquered necks.

  • @Grayjacket11
    @Grayjacket11 4 года назад +4

    these aren't priced too low - the Juniors are priced too high!
    would be cool to see you review a Harley Benton DC Junior for comparison's sake (surely not the first viewer to ask lol)

  • @henryhunter5026
    @henryhunter5026 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the nice in depth review. The Epiphone Les Paul Special is, in my opinion, very good value for the money, it’s a shame that they seem to have fret levelling issues at the factory, I’ve seen several reviews of new Epiphones that have fret problems, it’s not the end of the world but you either have to find someone to fix it or do it yourself which doesn’t seem right on a new guitar. I actually quite liked the pickups, minus points for me are the neck shape, fingerboard material and the glossy too thick finish. It’s not a guitar that I’d buy new but might consider a cheap used one just out of curiosity.

    • @JohnnyBgood548
      @JohnnyBgood548 4 года назад

      I agree ive had to do extensive fret leveling on many an epiphone not difficult bu can be time consuming! This guitar does sound really awesome!

  • @barbershoppodcast
    @barbershoppodcast 2 года назад

    I've got the 1994 Gibson in wine red - P-100's and a solid piece of old mahogany - full binding on all but body and man is it good. 10 guitars and it's still my #1

  • @ios6605
    @ios6605 4 года назад +16

    Raise the prices are you crazy 🤪 SHHHHHHHHHH

  • @jakubshouseofrock7109
    @jakubshouseofrock7109 4 года назад +5

    No! don't tell them to raise their prices ! when these prices are converted to Australian $ they get really expensive really quickly :(

  • @fireglo450music
    @fireglo450music 4 года назад +5

    I already have 3 excellent guitars with P90s but man this is tempting.

    • @sir118
      @sir118 3 года назад +1

      I own a 68 SG Special, and I’m sitting here contemplating buying this thing 😂😂

  • @therugburnz
    @therugburnz 4 года назад

    Trots my man. Your playin' is really getting good.
    You had a PRS the o the day KEEP IT. You have earned it.

  • @bubuguaiguai
    @bubuguaiguai 3 года назад +1

    P90s are pickups that the height is the most important/sensitive topic with. I as a guitar tech I did some wonders only through setting those to the right point. And then adjusting polepieces for mids and voila!
    I just ordered one of these for myself...

  • @MythicHazard
    @MythicHazard 4 года назад +3

    This is a competitive, fair price considering the current market. Great product I’m sure, but so many really good to decent guitars near this price point today.

  • @roaddog7542
    @roaddog7542 4 года назад +5

    Nashville could easily produce these for a good profit but it's all about charging asinine prices for Gibson on the headstock.

  • @SrDeMaFp
    @SrDeMaFp 4 года назад +2

    Gotta check one of these out. Epi seems to be killing it this year! That new headstock looks SO much better too. That’s a nice looking fretboard! Fat neck too? Hell yes! The tone is fantastic as well. P-90’s are never the wrong choice. The finish is hideous though...Seems like you stepped up your playing too there Trogly!

  • @blksteve11
    @blksteve11 4 года назад +2

    Ahhh!! I’ve been waiting for this!!!

  • @triledink
    @triledink 4 года назад +6

    The only complain you got for the guitar besides the paintjob is that its too cheap. come one austin, if this is a great guitar and cheap whats not to love?

  • @jonathanbaggs4275
    @jonathanbaggs4275 4 года назад +7

    Please review the Gibson 2020 version!

  • @TWhite-mq6uf
    @TWhite-mq6uf 4 года назад

    So thorough - best guitar reviews out there. Excellent job! I've had this on pre-order for two months. Now I'm even more excited to get it. I agree too - let us see some of that wood grain!

  • @nazmoking3171
    @nazmoking3171 4 года назад +1

    I have the older Epiphone version of this guitar. In terms of differences, mine has the thinner slim taper neck, the standard intonatable stop bar tailpiece, and Grover tuners, no neck binding. I would rate this one similar in quality overall, maybe slightly better pickups, and less preferred neck, tuners and bridge. I honestly do prefer the rosewood fretboard of mine over the Indian Laurel as well.

  • @hdflame
    @hdflame 4 года назад +3

    Enjoying your playing. You’re definitely improving since I first started watching you. I have two Epiphones, a 2016 Les Paul Tribute and a Sheraton and I really like them.

  • @jeffthompson1869
    @jeffthompson1869 4 года назад +6

    What is the cost of manufacture vs the sales cost. Since I have seen off models that look as good, but without Epiphone or Gibson or etc. labeling on the headstock - It looks like it would between $130 - $180. $400 at that point seems steep. China got the manufacturing down on quality though - its the American markup that I am questioning. It looks and sounds like a great player. Trogly rocks!

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 4 года назад +1

      Chinese made guitars are so high quality for the price these days. Cheap guitars used to mean bad guitars. But these days everything is so precise with machines, and you've got those PLEK machines that do 3D scans of the guitar and then it sets up the guitar way more perfectly than any human could, like down to fractions of a millimetre, setting up the action and the intonation and the truss rod etc. Harley Benton use those machines, it's probably a big part of how they have such good guitars for the price. It costs a good £200 or so to send your guitar to get it set up by a PLEK machine, but harley benton and other Chinese guitar manufacturers use them on every guitar they send out before anyone even buys them, only takes a few minutes for each one so why not
      Squier are making top quality instruments these days too, they probably have their own PLEK machine. When epiphone and squier are making better guitars than Gibson and Fender are a lot of the time now, you basically are only paying for the name on the headstock these days

    • @texnet11
      @texnet11 4 года назад +2

      duffman18 I’m absolutely blown away at what you get now with cheaper instruments. As you said, when I first started cheap guitars like squire and lower end epiphones where almost garbage and even the medium range fenders and epiphone where just meh.

  • @peterdebad1
    @peterdebad1 4 года назад +1

    Great review Austin. But don't give Epiphone ideas to raise prices!!😉 Let's stay safe and have a great night!!

  • @getredytagetredy
    @getredytagetredy 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for finally stating that the color, which they can never get right IS A 1950'S furniture and television lacquer color that originally was limed faded back in the day...Thank you...

  • @LukeJackandWill
    @LukeJackandWill 4 года назад +3

    It's fascinating that from the QC we seen on the slash a few weeks ago, we see much superior QC on a guitar the fraction of the price. Almost makes you question why you'd bother.

    • @jonathanhandsmusic
      @jonathanhandsmusic 4 года назад

      I have one of these too and the qc is excellent. No file marks on the fret ends. Like Trogly, I had to raise the neck pickup and put new 11 gauge strings on it. I also lowered the strings, etc. now it's a great little guitar. Well worth $399.

  • @God-gp3zz
    @God-gp3zz 4 года назад +6

    Looks amazing

  • @Comakino
    @Comakino 3 года назад +1

    I'd probably want to drill some holes and put a proper bridge on it, but not sure it's worth it TBH

  • @ronthunders6124
    @ronthunders6124 4 года назад +2

    This is what guitars should be priced. These epiphone are sooooo sick!!!!

  • @brandonkoch3852
    @brandonkoch3852 4 года назад +5

    Good day troglodytes!you gotta get an epiphone norm burst in.to show the folks.only had mine for a couple days.but thoroughly enjoying it.the probuckers are what they are.will probably have some gibson pickups installed at some point.but the stocks will be more than adequate for the time bieng.
    Never could dig the t.v. yellows.but it seems like a decently built guitar.

  • @Turkanda
    @Turkanda 4 года назад +7

    Really enjoyed this video until you mentioned about the price and how Epiphone could charge an extra $100, people really need a break right now and you're not helping.

    • @emptychair3932
      @emptychair3932 4 года назад +1

      as if a multi million dollar company is getting their pricing strategy from a youtuber's video titles

  • @foofy14
    @foofy14 3 года назад

    I love how in depth you go in the reviews

  • @SwAggCiTyent305
    @SwAggCiTyent305 4 года назад +1

    Currently priced at £1,300 - £1,400 GBP (~$1,600 - ~$1,700 USD) in the UK. Looks like they took your advice...

  • @trroland1248
    @trroland1248 4 года назад +3

    Why would you change those pickups? They sound quintessentially P-90.👍🏻

  • @MarshallGTV
    @MarshallGTV 4 года назад +6

    Nope, should be cheaper.. just because fretwork is not cheap.

  • @buddhamus
    @buddhamus 4 года назад +1

    As always a nice review and overview, but next please don't suggest that they raise the price. Have you compared the Epiphone Les Paul Special to the Epiphone SG Special? I am trying to decide between the two and I'm having trouble making a decision.

  • @Anthem-nd8sh
    @Anthem-nd8sh 4 года назад +1

    I bought one of the Epi "Inspired By" 60's LP Standards and its better than my $ 3 K Gibson version! Serious folks this series is extremely well made.

  • @jambajoby32
    @jambajoby32 4 года назад +23

    Hey Thumbs down for suggesting it could cost more lol.

  • @msilliphant
    @msilliphant 4 года назад +3

    hey man they have to compete with the knock offs so the i think the price is spot on

  • @McFly-guitars-n-stuff
    @McFly-guitars-n-stuff 4 года назад +1

    Your videos are great! I really enjoy them. The one thing I wish you did was measure the fret hieght. Automotive style. Like holding down the 11&12 frets together, and using stacked feeler gauges between those frets. Just snug under the string. More 'specs'.
    What the string height was at the 12th fret would be interesting to.
    That could just pop up as text for us tech types to enjoy.👍

  • @morbidrockgod
    @morbidrockgod 4 года назад

    Nice review and video! I recently got a N.O.S. Epiphone Ltd. Special SC. They were made between 2011 and 2012 and came stock with ABR-1 style tune-o-matic bridges and Grover tuners. The pickups are what Epiphone called "P-90 Classics" and it seems to not sound much different from this 2020 version. Great guitars for the money. Having owned many guitars over the years, my mind was set on a les paul special-type guitar with plain mahogany body that had a tune-o-matic. Couldn't be happier: simple, easy to set up, affordable and light. Rock on!

  • @natesharlette
    @natesharlette 4 года назад +8

    Nice, but I’d still rather have a Gibson

    • @bryonkidder6199
      @bryonkidder6199 4 года назад +7

      It's just a $1000 more....lol

    • @nilswegner2881
      @nilswegner2881 4 года назад +5

      Nice but I'd still rather have a fender or Ibanez or any other brand of guitar than Gibson or anything related to that company that builds inferior guitars at higher prices

    • @onlyguitars
      @onlyguitars 4 года назад

      @@nilswegner2881 They re inconsistent, but the Gibson LP Special I have is the best guitar I have played, and it's my favorite. I've had epis, had a 2018 Gibson LP Traditional, I have tried Gibsons I really disliked, but this Gibson is worth it. At least for me! I'm really really happy with it.

  • @rodyblitz
    @rodyblitz 4 года назад +7

    Pls don’t recommend to raise the price dude, shhhhhhh 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

  • @imannonymous7707
    @imannonymous7707 3 года назад +2

    id love to hear ur take on the jr....but i get why you like the special.
    i wouldnt suggest higher prices tho.....but thats me....lol kinda ruffled some feathers there....maybe that was ur intention

  • @getredytagetredy
    @getredytagetredy 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for showing a real Television from the 50's with this paint on it...We had an entire dining room set in T V yellow...plus the TV...Thanks for getting this period CORRECT !!!

  • @onlyguitars
    @onlyguitars 4 года назад +9

    The LP Special I think is one of the best LP's out there. I was one of the people who didn't appreciate the dotted LP's and thought they weren't the real deal. OH BOY I was wrong.
    It all changed when I saw a video of a guy getting a Gibson LP Special and I just got hooked for a reason and just couldn't get the guitar out of my head. (Hope we can see a review of the Gibson LP Special someday =D )
    So I tried and ended up getting a Gibson LP Special myself. WOW! What a monster and great guitar. In person is even more beautiful, love the neck, I love now the dots (and with the binding is just really cool), is light compared to a regular LP which I prefer, and it's just so cool. I think it's like the Gibson Telecaster. Just plain piece of wood with strings, but men! It's just a monster.
    And this Epi's LP Special have seen only great reviews, and the price is just a no brainer for how good the guitar is.
    I think the Specials are the best LP's you can get for the money. You have the real deal, and I have played Standards, Traditionals, Classic, and this Special Is the one I feel is the more enjoyable to play as well. Is so easy to play!!
    I still would like to try one of the Epis, they seem great and fun as well!
    Is it worth the Gibson over the Epi?? I think it depends on how much you like the P90's and this guitar. If this is going to be your main guitar or one of your main guitars that you want it for a long time. Then yes, the Gibson I think it's totally worth it. Plus, one thing I just love about having a Gibson is when you open the case, look at the beautiful guitar and that amazing smell. That always put me in an even better mood to play =)
    If not, then the Epi one I think it's very very good, and very close to the Gibson, and for $400, it's a no brainer for sure.

  • @MPLSprintmaking
    @MPLSprintmaking 4 года назад +5

    They don’t want to reveal the wood. I’d imagine it’s hiding unsightly wood and/or seams.

  • @markmcdonald5711
    @markmcdonald5711 2 месяца назад

    This guitar and a Marshall DSL1CR were made for each other, for less than 1000.00 for both you will be very happy with the tone.

  • @UlissesMartins
    @UlissesMartins Год назад

    Thanks for the best reviews ever.😊 I recently bought this wonderful guitar and I'm really happy with it. I only had to file the frets a bit cause they was very sharp and to put a piece of tape on the knobs because were all loose and felling of. The guitar is really beautiful and well built and the sound is marvelous. 🤗☺️