Glassing a Surfboard - Resin Tint
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2020
- Shaped and Glassed a sweet little fish for my friends wedding gift! The wedding got canceled by the quarantine but got our buddy his board all the same!
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Safety Gear___________________________________
3M respirator - Love this one, definitely recommend
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3M Dust filters
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Rice Paper for Logos __________________________
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Fin Marking Jig_______________________________
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Glassing Tools________________________________
Cheap Yellow Squeegees I like
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Hot Coat Brushes_____________________________
3” Brushes I Use
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Sanders_____________________________________
Porter Cable Random Orbital sander:
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Dewalt Sander
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Festool R0150 - Ultimate Sander!
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Flexpad 8"
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Mirka Sanding Screen - My recommendation, does the best job with dust control when using a vacuum
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Festool Sand paper
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Measuring Calipers _______________________
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Hand Plane______________________________
Stanley Hand Plane
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David Combie Hand plane
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Hobby Hand plane
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Shop Vacuum___________________________
Shop Vac I Use
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Scissors_______________________________
Carbon Shears
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Fiberglass Scissors I like
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Electric scissors I like
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Air Brush Spray Gun
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Acrylic Paint thinner
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Airbrush cleaner for acrylic paint
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Sticker Cutter - Cameo 4
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Sticker Material I Use
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Epoxy resin ___________________
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- fast cure if you feel confident and can laminate a board fast
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Fiberglass Cloth ________________
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so sweet
This was beautiful, and not just the board 😊
sick board
Looks good. You did a nice job
Hey thanks man✊🏻, turned out to be a rad little fish
Pin line did came out really good 🤙🤙🏄♂️
thanks man, was worried for a second there I was running out of time!!
Really great little fish, and your setup to build looks awesome. What kind of paper are you using for the signatures?
Hey thanks man, pretty functional for just being my garage! I use www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027A39W2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 , I used to buy rice paper from Shapersupply.com but went out on a limb and tried this just off of amazon, it works great and is a fraction of the price! Haven't used anything else since
@@RockandSeaGarageBoardShop That link is broken I think mate?
Well, I'm building one in a 7ftx5ft garden shed, so am very jealous haha
Brilliant quality video! Any thoughts about making a tutorial video on how to do your glass jobs?
Hey thanks man, you know it’s seems there are a lot more people than i though out there that want to get into making boards in their garage, there is something pretty magic about it. I’ll have to make a glassing tutorial. Have a sweet new 6’6 fish model I’m going to glass soon 👍🏻🏄🏼♂️
Hey bro, great work, board is looking good 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙Do you use high density closed cell EPS , Styro or Exps, they have to be super high density since you glass them heavy, if you don't mind me asking what kind of blanks and epoxy you use?
Slavick, hey I use Marko Foam Virgin EPS blanks 2lb density and apple core stringers (my favorite stringers in the world, super strong but light)! markofoamblanks.com. I really like Resin Research Quik Kick ULTRA Epoxy, the work time is around 25min which is nice, not too fast, not too slow, nice thing is it cures faster for epoxy so you don't have to wait around forever, takes about 2 hrs before you can flip the board to glass the next side! greenlightsurfsupply.com/collections/resin-and-fiberglass-cloth/products/resin-research-2000ce-ultra?aaa=john
Great Board! Where do you get your blanks from?
I use Marko Foam EPS blanks, If I want custom blanks I go straight to the factory in Corona CA. its cool you can design custom stringers with unique color patterns, foam densities etc..
- markofoamblanks.com
But for the majority of boards I just get standard blanks from any surf factory, I go to Bashams in San Clemente CA
- www.bashamsfactorysurfshop.com
Loving this board. I've been planning to make my first board... a blue tinted twin fish coincidentally. Did you only do the two resin layers and then sanded/polished the second? Also what was your progression of sanding grits? Cheers :)
Hey thats awesome you going to shape a board, it’s so fun/rewarding/special to surf a board you made with your very own hands, Stoked for you man! Glassing a board is divided into two big steps, the lamination and the hot coat. The lamination is where you are applying resin to the fiberglass weave, you let that harden, and then after you brush on a very thin layer of resin that you sand out and polish. Interesting tidbit of info, all the strength comes from the lamination phase where you are applying resin to the fiberglass cloth, the resin you add after the lamination (the hot coat) just gives you a surface to sand ultra smooth and doesn’t add any strength to the board and unfortunately increases the boards weight a fair amount (the laminated fiberglass cloth is bumpy and has texture). I rough sand 120 grit, then 240, next 320, lastly 400. Then i pour on a 1000 grit “compound” and buff the board. Lastly i polish it with Meguiar’s #7 car glaze🙌🏻
hello friend...I made the pin line before the last layer of resin...but of course when sanding I also took the pin line....now to correct that my idea is to paint the black line with a Posca marker and give it a resin hand on top.. When giving the resin, will the black line be removed? Thank you very much friend.
Definitely have done that before, resin pin stripes are so hard to not sand through! I love POSCA pens and pretty much exclusively pin strip with them now. I’m not 100% sure what you are asking but if you worried about hot coating over the top of Posca pen, unfortunately I’m not sure about that, when I use Posca pens I always just do it on top of the hot coat, it’s generally pretty durable and doesn’t get scraped off easily
Nice board man!!! If I can recommend you one thing it is that you tape your rails before hot coating, it will save you a lot of time sanding. What did you use for the reinforcement on the tail? Was it volan or regular fiber glass? Greetings from The Basque Country.
Nevermind the tape thing, I just saw you did it on your next board😂😂
Whoa Basque Country! That’s awesome!! I normally tape off my rails but saw a video posted by the legend @kazumasurfboardshawaii on Instagram where he mentioned that he doesn’t tape off the rails (except for resin damming the tail) and just kept brushing the drips off. I tried it on this board and it was a horrible decision hahaha, i was brushing off drips forever, thought it had kicked thoroughly to the point it wouldn’t drip anymore, but the next morning found a ton of hardened drips hahahah. Maybe he is kicking his resin super hot, it sure would be convenient to not have to tape off, but for now I’m not risking it anymore hahahha
@@RockandSeaGarageBoardShop he is a legend indeed, I think it cam out reaaally great👌! What did you use for reinforcing the tail?
What tipe of paper and print do u use for the signatures and logos?
Great board, great videos
Keep it up 🤙🏾🤙🏾
Angelo, I use rice paper, its pretty sweet, you just print whatever you want at home using your home printer and then when you glass it, the paper turns translucent so you only see the print. Its pretty awesome shapersupply.com/collections/rice-paper/products/rice-paper
@@RockandSeaGarageBoardShop thank you man, very sweet
Good boards and success in life
Peace 🤙🏾
How did you glass the tail, I’m having a lot of trouble trying to figure out we’re to make cuts
Dude glassing the tail is seriously hard! I do a center cut to the base of the fish tail, and then trim the excess off of the tips of the rails. A master glasser would probably do it somehow different or better button me, for the tight tricky areas where it’s hard to get the cloth to adapt well, like right in the v of the tail or the very tips, i cut a few small patches of cloth and hit those areas. It’s just easier to get a tightly adapted lamination on those crucial areas with small malleable pieces. Hope this helps, if not feel free to reach out for more help, always stoked to help out other enthusiasts 👍🏻
what tape do you use to obtain FINE lines in paint? Just regular paint tape?
For pretty much anything on a surfboard it is worth getting high temp rated tape, the resin heats up as it cures and the adhesive was of normal masking tape will fail and resin will seep underneath your tape line. (Hard lessons learned😭😂). I use Indasa tape shapersupply.com/products/indasa-mty-tape?_pos=2&_sid=09d5c711f&_ss=r or 3M 233+ or 3M 401+ tape. These tapes have higher temp ratings and are super adhesive 🙌🏻
What kind of paper do u use to do the logo and signatures
Hey, I use rice paper from shaper supply, its cheap and you can print on It using your home printer, nothing special needed. Its pretty awesome shapersupply.com/collections/rice-paper/products/rice-paper
glue A and B or la Composite
How do you get the same color on both sides? I assume you just make sure you’re adding the same proportion of paint/pigment to each sides resin?
Hey good question, i used to try to match color between different batches of resin, and definitely had a few off batches! The easy hack is to just pour a pot with enough hardener for both top and bottom lam. Add in pigment to your desired color (realize that color will be diluted when you add in resin) and then just split your pot of pigmented hardener and save the second half for the 2nd lamination. 🙌🏻
Surviving Dent School - JDub Hannah smart! Thanks a lot man🙏🤙
Greate Board, what program did you use to make the logo?
I use affinity designer for Mac, i love it👍🏻
thanks, I'll see if it works on Windows
how did you ship that board and what was the cost of it?
So you can ship boards ground but it’s unfortunately pretty expensive, about $150 depending on board length etc.. It sort of sucks tacking on that expense, that’s an extra 30% for a $500 board😭
what did you use to create the logos???
I use a Mac software called affinity designer and then I print the logos right at home on special paper called rice paper! Its super cool and fun, check it out shapersupply.com/collections/rice-paper/products/rice-paper
How long after you glassed it did you cut the cut lap?
Raddon Jooste good question, so it depends on how fast your resin is curing. This board was with quick kicking epoxy that kicks in 10-20 min. With this resin i cut the lap 60-80 minutes after mixing the resin. So 40-60 minutes after I’ve laminated the board
@@RockandSeaGarageBoardShop Cool thanks! Really cool video
Did you print the logo on normal paper?
Tim Alings i print on this special rice paper that turns translucent when it’s glassed in, i put a link in the description to the paper i use🙌🏻🙌🏻
Nice board, please tell me you glassed over those boxes?
Hey thanks man, Turned out pretty beautiful! You know for groveler boards built for smaller waves I typically don't throw a patch over the fin boxes, I haven't had any problems blowing out fin boxes. For step up boards or boards for more powerful surf I always throw on patches or better yet I like to install the fin boxes before I laminate the board. Do you throw patches over fin boxes even for small waves, guess it wouldn't hurt?!
@@RockandSeaGarageBoardShop Fatal haha! Yea, I cloth over any and every box aside from FCS1's. Resin is brittle and weak on it's own, glass is what gives it strength. It is also often the only barrier preventing water from touching foam when it comes to hot coat cracks in those high flex areas.
Have just discovered your videos the last couple of days, digging um!
Hey thanks man, btw, check out your channel, you kill downhill longboarding 😳🙌
@@RockandSeaGarageBoardShop Cheers man! Been a long time since I've bombed a hill now. A young mans game. I'm @small kine ding repairs for surfboard making and repairs if interested. Chur bro, keep up the videos!
hello friend... could you tell me the percentages of peroxide that you use according to the temperature of the environment? I bought a thermometer for my garage and I'm going to start laminating the board this week. I would like a catalyst that gives me time since it will be my second laminating board... thank you very much...you are a genius
Are you glassing with epoxy or polyester resin? Each epoxy manufacturer has its own specific mix ratios, typically 1:2 or .45:1, for polyester resin I typically mix just 1% for slower cure times and 2% for hot coat. Temperature wise each epoxy manufacturer has the ideal temp, I use resin research epoxy and they recommend about 75 Fahrenheit, for polyester resin if it’s above 80 Fahrenheit, the resin will kick a little faster than normal so I always add just a few drops of catalyst less than normal, maybe about a half mill less catalyst per 16oz resin is my go to. Hope this helps!
hello...I'm going to use polyester resin.
@@RockandSeaGarageBoardShop With 1% there is a risk that the resin will never catalyze? I think 1% is too little. Thank you
No worries! Poly is actually really sensitive, just a little more or less will really change your cure rate, absolutely will cure with 1%, 1% is the base level and slowest cure mix for polyester resin. Just by upping a little catalyst to 1.25% you speed up the cure, Here is a link to a catalyst mix chart I use
surfsource.net/files/SurfSourcePolyesterResinMixingChart.pdf
Sorry Bruv classic all the gear no idea on that board, nice shape I’m not sure if you shaped that board? Definitely need some work on tint laminations it’s a real art to get a consistent colour
Hey thanks man, ya shaped that guy, pretty much only shaped fish for the first 40 or so boards, really just tried to dial in fish before doing anything else. Also have a soft spot in my heart for fish, absolutely love high volume little boards. Pretty much all my old vids were about variations on this fish shape, some shorter, some longer, pulled in tails, Asym etc…. Resin tints are seriously hard, I still struggle to get consistent color distribution, especially around cutlap lines. But hey honestly working to get good at all these little details is half the fun, super cool functional art you can slowly perfect over time. Check out this cool acrylic foam stain I just finished, super fun technique ruclips.net/video/GlO_QFbkpOY/видео.html
Man so awesome , where can I get this template ?
Sorry dude, made this one up myself! Bought a fish I loved years ago and slowly tweaked, smoothed and pinched the outline through a bunch of fish to come up with this one! So unfortunately no convenient place to go and just download it, good place to start though is www.blendingcurves.com for free template downloads
Thanks anyways , I’m starting my first board next week , cheers
@@matiascrisaffulli1663 oooooh heck ya!!! What are you shaping?!!
@@RockandSeaGarageBoardShop well I think is going to be a Retro Fish like yours , 5.7 or perhaps a Mini Simmon 5.0 but I don’t know witch one it would be easy to shape for a first time shape , what you recommend ? , I think I’m going to ruin one or the other any ways Jaja , thanks a lot
Heck ya man! A mini is probably easier to shape and the tail will be easier to glass than a fish, I still low key have trouble glassing fish tails hahahaha. It’s hard to glass the pointy tips!
do you use xpe foam?
Haven’t used XPE actually, i really like MarKo foam blanks for all my EPS boards, then US Blanks for all my polyurethane boards.
What’s the status on XPE, do you use it, is it worth giving a try?!
@@RockandSeaGarageBoardShop yes! It’s good stuff to work with it.
Sweet man I’ll have to check it out, always stoked to check out different types of blanks, getting a feel for the nuances and little differences between each manufacturer
And why you dont set you twinkle fins to 0 degrees lok
Fin cant is a bit of a personal preference for me, I like them canted slightly, I swear the boards are more lively when your on-rail hahahha 🤷🏼😂. The cant of a general thruster is around 6.5 degrees and quad fins are usually set around 4 degrees, I like to set my fins on these fish usually 5 to 6.5, lots of twin fins are set at zero degrees. The more vertical a fin is set the faster it rides but with cant I think boards ride with more control when your on rail. But that is just me, im sure everyone has their own preferences and swear by them hahahha.