Pro-Choicer Defeated By Simple Logic | Kristan Hawkins | UTSA
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- Опубликовано: 25 дек 2022
- It’s easy to stump a pro-choicer when the truth is on your side. Also, if you advocate for abortion, you should at least know whether the being in the womb is alive or not. 🥱😉
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Go check out our full video of all the chaos we went up against that night.
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Dear Lady, You are awesome.
I wish You all the best. 🤝
I really like red heads but this one even though attractive has gave me impotence
Should've asked her what a woman was 😂😂
Do you remember anything from when you where a fetus? Nah you don’t now stfu and let people live free 💀
They just want people around them to be okay with there lack of accountability for a human life they so carelessly created. The ignorance it takes to dismiss life, let’s shut down everyone on life support and not even make that an option for families.
Many college students can't sustain themselves without mommy and Daddy.
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*_Awesome point!_*
Bet that room is fillled with allot of those
Gah! 😂😂😂
True that
She was so proud when she finished reading her three second art project
it's an amount of cell not a baby before 3 months. its like saying riping my skin is a murder. it's cells so it's Alive. same goes for a fœtus it's just an amount of cells. seeing it as a baby is personal interpretation.
so easy to defeat pro life
we should keep the right to chose
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😂😂 Yeah..
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The longer i live on this planet, the more I understand why roosters start their day screaming.
Oh my god that is deep, and I’m definitely stealing that line 😂😂 I haven’t laughed this hard in a week
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This comment is underrated Fr 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The longer I live on this planet, the more I see these overused jokes on a daily basis
My niece was born at 24 weeks, only 1lb 6oz. They decided to fight for her life and she's turning 1 this month ❤ I can't imagine life without her ❤ she is a LIFE
Yes, and she was WANTED by a FAMILY who had the RESOURCES to care for and nurture her. That is not true of many seeking abortions, making LIFE miserable for the woman who doesn’t want a pregnancy, the ordeal of childbirth or the overwhelming responsibility of an unwanted baby. I’m Glad there was a good outcome for your niece. But that shouldn’t mean it’s okay to take away freedom of choice from all women .
@@icu3869okay but just because someone doesn’t have the resources doesn’t make murder okay
@@icu3869 other people has no resources as well and commits crime. And yet we lock them up.
The reason for crime does not justify it.
Yes, she is a life. Because she was born. But before birth, not a life.
@@henryhill7991 Fetus IS a life. So the unborn baby that literally kicks about in a woman’s belly is not alive according to you, eh? Stupid logic to be honest.
She’s so open minded, her brain fell out.
Just like the fetus she aborted
🤣🤣🤣 agree 💯💯💯💯
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Yeah, her brain fled out
I love how she quotes her poster as if it was a creditable source.
Yeah I start shaking my head the moment she said “my poster”😒🤦🏻♀️
Like excuse me is that poster a scientific fact that have been studied for years or just mombo jambo you want to believe????
Some people😒🤦🏻♀️😒
To them, mutual ego capitulation IS credibility. Ego rules.
...try "credible." 🙄🙄🙄
Lmao and the stance she took after reading it, like she had a mic drop but turns out all she had was the mic shoved down her throat
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A baby in the womb is not a potential, it's there, it's living, it's growing.
It is a body waiting for a soul. If it is never born that soul will find another body.
Something cannot grow if it aint alive@@Kazilikaya
@@Kazilikayayou’re talking strictly hypothetical. There is absolutely no way for us to prove that.
yeah, but after it threats its mother's life, for instance, the doctors rescue a woman! Not something what cannot live beyond of woman's organism.
@@Kazilikayayou are a delusional person and you definitely need a psychiatrist!
It is living but that's not the case of value. A fetus has no personhood, has no sentience, has no conscience. And also the potentiality argument is a double-edged sword that swings in no one's favor.
Finally a sane comment in this insane comment section.
Babies actually can visibly recognize their parents' voices once they're outside the womb. They do have sentience and conscienceness. The brain starts developing after just 6 weeks.
Well according to God he know us while in the womb. He created each of us. Its like saying a spec of bacteria on a Petrie dish is not viable when infact it is very viable.
@@juliavanveldhuizen9933Why are you bringing up fairy tales?
@@ayanpandeydpsn-std9005Oh yeah insane because they don't agree with your ideology and actually values life unlike some selfish people who got life but doesn't want others to have life.. gotcha 👍🏻
The smugness was wiped off her face almost instantly.
Truth does that....
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I don't know for sure I couldn't see underneath those fat Jowls on that obese womans face how smug she was to begin with?
This was sooooooo satisfyingly great!!
bingo
She really thought she did something with that poster board I’m dead.
And What are the pro forced birthers doing about the millions of kids in Foster care? Nothing
So proud of herself with her weak poster.
her poster was very right
@@xotwod17 pffft, sure buddy. okay, so by the posters logic most toddlers aren't alive, a newborn baby isn't alive simply because they don't understand and subscribe to a certain ethical view ?
do you think spiders or snakes understand or care about an ethical conundrum ? are they alive ?
im not really expecting a reply because your brain probably doesn't even understand what im saying, but maybe i'll get a reply in like 10 years when your IQ finally reaches the double digits.
Fat girl is also stupid, ya all are crazy for banning abortions for people who need them, if you don’t like it than don’t get one
To say that women should not have the right to an abortion means that you hold the life of the baby to a higher degree than the life of the mother that created it. Why?
because its not about the baby, taking away the right to abortion (or anything that is good for women in any way) is a way for men to practice their power over those who they hate the most (women).
WOMP WOMP
how is that holding the life of the baby to a higher degree? please elaborate
@@RED-my9hl bro what is this victim mentality
@hayn10 XY chromosomes will always be mad at reality, that's what the Y chromosome is for. Also imagine liking your own comment, how pathetic
Not defeated, she just wasn’t prepared for that woman’s use of disingenuous logical arguments. Cancers are living, should we leave them?
Cancers aren’t human
@@guardian7773Cancers are human cells that are dividing uncontrollably.
@@guardian7773Okay? Why does a clump of cells matter more if it’s “human” than one that isn’t ? They’re still just clumps of cells.
It’s not like pro lifers are against the death penalty anyway, so that’s a bit of a pointless argument to try and make.
Why are you comparing a baby to a disease?
"Disingenuous logical arguements."
Is that a typo? Appealing to logic and reason is not disingenuous. It's just uncomfortable to hear and hard to debunk when you want to do something you know is wrong.
Cancer isn't human. It doesn't have a unique DNA profile, it doesn't recognize its parent's voices, and most importantly, it's not comparable to a baby because a baby is not a parasite or a disease. Babies are *meant* to safely grow inside the mother. Cancer is not.
She really stood there like she said something smart 🤦♀️
The people behind were laughing at her😂😂😂😂 such a joke
My poster tho!!!!
@@march24-lp4pv achievement of a lifetime🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yup, she was so proud of herself 🤣
Yes. That acorn comment was hilarious. A seed grows according to their kind. And a seed is alive 😭 some are not viable. But in order for it to have ever become a full matured plant, it had to actually be alive
I was born at 26 weeks. Two and a half months early. I’m here typing this today. I’m alive, when I came out that early, I was alive then
I was also born at 26 weeks!
My son made it to 27 weeks gestation and passed. I had to give birth to his sleeping body. It's very common these days for women to have failed pregnancies but you won't see them very often because we don't post it every single time it happens. Because I have them permission to do an autopsy, I now know it is because I have blood issues, mainly clotting problems and more specifically APS syndrome which is known to cause miscarriages and stillbirth. Abortions do save lives at times. My blood creates a lot of problems for me and also the fetus if I do become pregnant again. I had a stroke and seizure 6 months after I gave birth to my sleeping son which was a result from the pregnancy. Birth control can fail, moms may have life threatening issues and be surprised by a pregnancy that may put their lives in danger or result in their own death. I wish I could have had my son early at 26 weeks, even the chances of survival are not great.
@@blairl3091 ong that's a lot of yapping
@@boopbop3543that’s super disrespectful to write that after this person shared something really personal. Difference of opinion on this subject doesn’t mean be intentionally ignorant and cruel…
All these idiots are overprivileged white girls for the most part and they're lucky their parents didn't think the same way as they do!!!
We are doomed, if young women actually believe babies have no value there is no hope for us!
Exactly what I was thinking. This is very sad.
As a woman, it is indeed sad... Babies are a gift of God 🥺
Where did you get that babies have no value? The topic was that women have more value and take precedence over a zygote or fetus. And yes, they do. At no time did she say babies have no value. And babies are not zygotes.
If Young women actually believe babies have no value
Their mothers actually thought THEY AS BABIES actually did.
Obviously the young girl there, and the rest of them youngens weren't aborted either.
@@user-fq9ij4we4r Considering the fact that no one stated that babies have no value, what is your point?
If sustainability is when life is considered living… that leaves all young children, many of the handicapped, the disabled elderly and the mentally ill all disqualified for rights to life according to these persons definition of life.
Pure insanity.
That’s where things are going. Check out Canada’s medically assisted death. They now want it to include mental illness.
What's sad is that they might and can use this logic someday to justify abortion. Just how insane most people are going to get.
Exactly, "survival of the fittest" which is a Hitlerian ideology very much alive today thanks to our universities.
This women has two brain cells and they're both fighting for third place
Which one? 😊
@@somthing7290 the red head
Hahahahahahah
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AMAZIN😂
The fact that she was so unprepared for the argument that she had to turn to the people behind her to answer when a fetus is alive-
It was like a game show "we asked the audience and they said ..."
@@goosfrabaevony.4088 That’s so accurate 💀
it's extremely controversial though, even if she had an answer thousands would disagree. I understand the hesitation.
@@ogsponge8678 that’s a good point I would just expect someone that passionate on the subject to have done some research and decide for themself before the debate. Ur not wrong tho
Yea I’m not for or against but I’m over 50 not growing any more does that mean I’m dead
Why is it that people feel the need to force themselves to have a baby if they cannot sustain it? If you're really young or are simply not ready to take care of a baby, chances are that if you force yourself to have the baby, then you will end up bankrupt and / or the baby will end up in foster care and will not grow up favourably
Don't a lot of professional athletes grow up that way? The answer is yes.
My real mum gave me up, instead of abortion in the 60s because it is a shameful thing she had done to give birth without a husband.
I thank God for this live, and that she decided to give birth instead of KILLING Me.
Does it justify for those aborted babies without a voice. Are we still human. 😢
Some mind blowing answers to you is…don’t get pregnant, abstain from sex or if you can’t abstain take precautions and be careful who you are sleeping with or you might end up as a single mom. Remember, after a hot summer comes a very harsh winter.🤣🤣🤣
@@adolfosanchez5206 What about SA survivors? That's the biggest factor in this dilemma. If someone was forced to be impregnated and then is forced to keep the baby, when they aren't ready, then where's the justice?
@@faseplay.Doubt you’re gonna get an answer honestly, but you’re exactly right. Pro-lifers don’t like it when you mention that and will usually try to downplay the significance of those cases.
This hasn’t proven that a fetus is “living” this has proved that sustainability isn’t reached until far after exiting the womb, however this comment section is so argumentatively illiterate that no one’s seemed to notice. A fetus is most definitely alive, as is bacteria, trees and fruit, the question is obviously not is the fetus alive, as I don’t see any moral debates on the sale of unripened bananas, the question is, is the fetus human, the question is, does a fetus have the same value as a full grown human being, and unless you come from a culture which pays reverence to flora and fauna, your answer most likely should be no, as the things we value tend to be memory, intelligence, morality, appreciation for beauty, and contribution to community small and large, a fetus can do none of these things as these things require higher brain function, which a fetus does not have. Of course this doesn’t cover the issue in totality because one could argue that these traits could be found in the future, which is a completely different argument, but this debate is circular, with one point bleeding into the last, and so on but maybe we can at least get to the point and decide exactly what we are arguing about when we say a fetus is or isn’t “alive”
Go practice your gender studies , no need to lecture the mentally sane people
@@lipialam3599 Funny you say that when the vast majority of "pro life" people literally believe in magic
@@eliasjakemoran6434I admire you for having logical backup in every comment under this comment section of illiterate pro life fools. 🎉
all of us at one point was a Fetus.
Weren't YOU once a fetus?
She read that poster like she dropped a truth bomb. She has a long way to go.
Her whole attitude id so childish. How is she not embarrassed?
@@cowel8734she definitely is cringing hard somewhere right now 🤡😂
I’d love to see a reaction vid, of her watching herself 20 years, from now.
@PR26 I'm embarrassed till this day about some things I've done 20 yrs ago but I wasn't all over the internet. Some people just mature later in life. As long as she eventually learns her lesson. Better sooner than later.
@Cow~EL she probably not embarrassed yet but she's still young and what matters is that she eventually comes to her senses. Same goes for her supporters.
How to embarrasse yourself in under a minute
Who the whale?
Nope the string bean who looks confused around waiting for others to help her answering her questions
@@JohnDoe-jt9oq No, the idiot holding the lame poster. Try to keep up.
@@JohnDoe-jt9oq your mom
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When arrogance meet ignorance and mixed with a spoonful of Idiocracy
Congratulations. What you said is nothing
@@ClaeFace is that directed to me or the lady in the video here?
@@jacobsigarsammy8217 the fact that you had to ask tells me everything I need to know, dunce
@@ClaeFace thank you. For you kind words. I appreciate it.
@@ClaeFaceStop being a dick
She got called out!! She was looking for answers from the crowd. She didn't know what to say!!
She doesn't think a fetus is alive... Forget the politics, we need to reform biology class. That's clearly not working as it should.
Do you think they will claim a fetus is alive in biology class now?
@@jameskirk3 What do you mean "now"?
@@CimliteNow that the world has gone crazy.
@@jameskirk3That's if they say DNA isn't the start of life
@@jameskirk3no, I use to volunteer at a hospital and they were doing a tour for 3rd graders. I was called on to help one of the tour guides with the majority of the kids, kinda keep an eye on things. The tour guide brought the kids to a poster of a pregnant woman showing the biological makeup of the pregnancy. Well one of the boys pointed and said, "Is that the baby in her tummy?" The tour guide said, "no its a fetus, it's not a baby yet. It's basically a glob of cells forming into a baby. In this stage of pregnancy the fetus isn't considered living." I'm sitting back like, "bruh...." cause I was taught that all life begins at conception. And the fact these kids are being subliminally set up to go pro-choice lol
I love how she has to look to her friends for answers. Her thoughts aren’t her own.
Like alot of sheep in America. More about fitting in then the truth. Really sad.
So true.
@@kevinl996Al lol lol ozzzzzzZzz😢😢 😢
Do you plan on adopting?
@@triplemoon33 when people can't use their brains, they use their fists.
Condoning violence, very "pro life" of you!👍🏾
What somebody does with their own lives literally does not matter to YOU. It does not change or affect YOUR life.
Yeah, a fetus is living. What's your point? It doesn't make it a person.
It is a person - in development.
Its a living human
Becoming a person
But you cannot kill humans in general.
Even a newborn is not a complete person. Now does that justify killing newborns?
@@Programm4r Just because it will become a person in time doesn't mean it is a person from the beginning, just like a seed isn't a tree.
@@rasmuslernevall6938 The first stage of a tree is a seed.
@@Programm4r That’s true. But it still doesn't make it a tree.
She was soooo proud of herself until she had to actually think lol
Yeah and then she looked to the crowd for the answers lol. An argument without actual research or facts
@@iracemarangel7831ell me about it, I haven't witnessed that level of ignorance, stupidity & just blatantly not knowing, to the point that you're literally looking to others for what to say, while standing before others trying to make a point, without knowing ANY facts.
This is her first experience of an opposing thought.
if you can call it thinking
I support pro choice even though I have a shlong, I think we give this to women. Then we go oppress them some more
she’s so confident with her ignorance and it backfired so fast
Confident? How many times she looked back at her girlfriends for answers and support. Couldn't even have the convo by herself.
She couldn’t even answer a basic question about the topic she’s so called “protesting” irrational and idiotic.
After she said what was on her poster she thought she had this massive mic drop, but then she ended up choking on that mic.
ABORTION👏🏽ISNT👏🏽A👏🏽BAD👏🏽THING👏🏽
FORCED👏BIRTH👏OR👏TEEN’S👏GIVING👏BIRTH👏IS👏WORSE
Tell that to someone who wants their child.
@@Programm4r then they don’t have to get one. My mom wanted me, so she had me. She is still pro choice
Yes it is lmao
@@Plague_Doctor_MD Your point is subjective. It’s murder when you want it to be and not murder when you don’t want it to be.
That college student really turned around for an answer from the crowd like she was in The Price is Right. 💀
Lol that was funny
Exactly. Like it’s a game. No clue whatsoever 😢
Lol
That’s exactly what I thought😂
One dollar !
She was so proud of herself that she could read her poster to everyone. Too bad she had no idea what the words meant. 😂
Also, notice how she had to keep looking back at her group before answering anything. Group think is dangerous.
That's like saying an acorn is a tree lmmfao 🤣 I don't know what these people's problems is these days I was born in 81 and have brains it seems like 90s and up are ruined they have nothing between their ears but air 90% of them anyways
the saddest irony is all these women clucking for abortions will never experience an orgasm
@@natefrogAZ We can never emancipate ourselves from mental slavery while in the grip of the hive mind.
@@asilvertrumpoffreedom7262 says a cult member! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It doesn’t matter if it is living, it cannot survive with the host, aka the mother, and that’s her body. You can spin it the way you want, at the end of the day she decides and nobody else
Said decision involves murder, my guy. Your right to make choices about what you will do and how your life will go end when it's someone else's life on the line. Just like how it is disgusting for caretakers of children, the disabled, and the elderly to abuse their positions and harm/kill their charges simply because their existence inconveniences them
@@disgustof-riley8338 it is not defined legally as a murder, that's another fact. At the end of the day, a woman's body is not mine and I have no right to decide for her, nobody else has.
So you promote rape? His penis his choice?
It is where I am. I’m sorry you live in a barbaric lawless zone that oppresses some humans
@@freechair4890 yes I live in a barbaric place called the US where people carry guns, have no problem to invade other countries based on lies, care little for homelessness or provide healthcare to everybody and somehow care more about a groups of cells in the body of a woman
I must've stumbled into the wrong comment section because there is a dissapointingly high number of forced-birthers in here.
Born to shit, forced to wipe. So sad.
You mean pro aborts? Abortion forces birth early and lethally for the child
I agree with you :/
Damn, do you think that people who eat are being forced to shit?
Bro thinks all people are forced to have s*x
She read her own poster like a kid presenting a project in 1st grade and expected some kind of grand applause and praise.
and they got that praise from the people in the audience who get the fact that a fetus doesn't have emotion. do you remember being a fetus? do you remember when you were conceived? did you have emotion? do you think a fetus cares if it doesnt have to go through a shitty life in a world that wont care about it and/or probably get shot at school by someone like you.
I agree lmao😭
She's like 5 years old, so proud of her poster 😆
😢 😢 😂 😂
Weird thing is she actually got that grand applause
They need to stop calling colleges and universities institutions of higher education.
In america they do. To sterotype americans in this scenario: they purchase their degrees. People who earn their degrees come from other countries where they value education.
Well on average, college students have higher IQ, commit less crimes, and make more money. Whether that’s correlation or causation is irrelevant, the statistics show that a college education is usually more valuable than not.
Too funny, except that it is not funny at all.
You make a good point.
Its useless to argue with the moron with the poster who attempt to re- invent something just because they dont understand life. Ignoramus tried to make an analogy with an acorn/ tree to a growing baby inside the womb. These are monsters.. abortion is murder.
"High"er Learning is more like it..
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so" - Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan sucks. He did so much for corporate America, it’s disgusting
I am pro with the facts everyone decides or make their own choices. It is their bodies and their problem at the end. If you value that little life, keep it, if it more important to resolve the problem than keep it, then proceed. This about freedom and respect for all.
You know what surprises me the most? They are college students.🤦♀️
And they all said no to the "is it living" question! 😳
Going to college doesn’t mean your smart tbh 🤷♂️. That’s how I see it when I see college students like this .
So shameful
@@soflo3218 I understand your point, but knowing basic biology doesn't require someone to be smart. Being smart is different than being an educated person, so when we say "college students" we mean that they at least should be educated, not necessarily smart :)
Scary huh?🙈
The argument is over, when she looks to the audience to answer the questions
The argument was over when Kristan deflected immediately.
@@Abortion3000 Tell me again how she deflected the question and when?
@@Parthuran We've got another needy one and I'm busy - can someone spoon-feed this one? Thanks!
@@Abortion3000 You were not busy when you wrote the previous comment. But I already know how to translate your comment: "I don't know, I just wanted to seem smart."
@@mr.infi0 More classic pro-lifer confirmation bias
You're making a fool of yourself.
Hair grows, therefore it is alive.
Sarcasm, right? Just checking, I can't tell
It needs a digestive system, metabolism, respiratory system, reproductive system, sensory system.
@@eliasjakemoran6434Nah you're being sarcastic
@@Programm4rThe fetus does have all those things therefore it's a human being that deserves civil rights too, look it up
@@pogcow4178 Lmao, does it have gun rights? Rights to free speech, right to vote? Little things don't even have self awareness to know they exist let alone know their own name. They are clearly not humans. At least not yet, that's why they gotta cook.
Would you call batter a cake? No
Why did she read her sign like it was a reliable source 💀💀💀
She got it from google.
When bing is your default search engine
She reference Wikipedia 👏 😅
It says so right here! I wrote it myself! Well, I copied it, but it says what I think.
Fr😂😂😂
She asked if a fetus was alive and a room full of grown ass people said “no”
Not that the question does anything at all to resolve the debate. A tumor is alive too. Should we rally to save the tumors?
Yep, it shows that they do not have brain although they go to the college
@@fattymcbastard6536 difference is that a tumor is likely going to kill the host (not always). A baby most likely will not.
And in the event that the mothers life is gravely in danger from said pregnancy, they are mostly terminated depending on the situation.
It’s a false equivalency. Clearly we as a society value certain life above others. Most people would say they value a horses life over a flies live. So we certainly value a human life over a cancerous tumor’s life.
And last I checked, I never went to prison for murdering flies. But if I killed a horse without reason, I would likely get a massive fine and have to serve some time in jail/prison. If I murdered a human, I’d go away for a long time.
@@metallifreak100well said
@@metallifreak100 giving birth is going to leave long-lasting damage to the health of the woman. Unassisted pregnancy/birth can have extremely high death rate; both preeclampsia & diabetes (which are very commonly developed during pregnancy) can cause severe organ damage. About 14 thousand women experience uterine prolapse during childbirth, which is deadly if not handled immediately (about 50% of mothers experience uterine prolapse later in life; which while not life-threatening, does severely impact quality of life & basic human functions like going to the toilet). Around 300 thousand women die every year due to childbirth (cancer kills 600 thousand people in the US each year). Pregnancy is anything but simple & harmless.
I won't start a debate on what "life" is as it will be a subjective matter; I am just going to say that a grown human is an independent organism, while an embryo is a parasitic one entirely dependant on the host body.
The issue with pro-life is that the movement polices what other people do (a pregnant person is obligated to give birth), while pro-choice allows an individual to act according to their own beliefs meaning they are not obligated to abort their first baby.
There is also the issue of quality of life. No one gets an abortion for the fun of it, chances are they are unable to take care of a child. Forcing that person to bring another life into this world just to ruin it has no logic behind it... Currently there are so many children in foster care & the system itself is absolutely horrid that you'd think someone who cares about a "life" of a child would direct their efforts there, but it seems the care for one's "life" ends the moment it leaves the womb...
The fact that the fetus is living is irrelevant. No one should be entitled to another's body resources, fetus or otherwise, but I don't expect people with imaginary friends to understand that. Let's start forcing blood transfusions. A viable woman is more important and should have full dictate over her body, and its (HER) resources!
So you are against things like child endangerment laws that dictate that if a child is in your possession you are responsible to use your body and resources to take care of them and keep them alive even if the child is not your own child… that obligation is even greater for the parents. The innocent child has no choice as to who has possession of them .
@@Jesus.theTruth.theLife.theWay cut the bullshit, we all no pro lifers dont give a fuck about children after theyre out of the womb
@@Jesus.theTruth.theLife.theWayoh look, another forced birther who doesn't understand the right to bodily autonomy. How shocking
Dunno if I'm qualified to throw my two cents. If the woman who is carrying a baby that was forced on her without consent(im sure people here get what I'm meaning) and is old enough to give birth and be a mother then she is also old enough to make her choice of keeping the baby.
Remember that such a woman went through goddamn trauma. Would you want a woman who is potentially unstable mentally to be a mother to a baby and take the risk where she may hurt the baby?
The baby's life is just as important I don't disagree. But seriously that womans life and health is just as important.
My advice? Woman's body. Woman's choice. All you should do is give advice and full unconditional support.
This is just a hypothetical example.
Also I know there are women who regretted having an abortion and the pain it caused them. That's why I understand why conservatives think Abortion should be illegal.
“What is the basis for your arguments?”
“My poster reads..”
i didn't know a poster could read.
Lmao best comment
*makes a different poster*
'Well thats strange, 'cause this poster says...' 😂
my poster said that Im. the biggest stupid girl ever
And she's so proud of it, and not knowing basic biology.
Prime example of college not being equivalent to intelligence
Omg exactly!!!!
College is overrated.
You only need college if u plan on being a doctor, engineer. And if u wanna be a cop, or firefighter, that is its own collage
Schooling and universities are this world's biggest lies
@@kreaspycream3136 college exists to put young people in debt early on. Give em another reason to stay at dead end jobs
if you dont want a child, do not have unprotected sex. or just dont have sex at all. simple.
Agree. And if you still don't want the child there are many people who want to adopt
The way that young lady acted when confronted with a fact is EXACTLY how my ex would act when confronted with a fact during a discussion.
We as a species are getting more stupid by the minute .
This video is most certainly the evidence of that.
Thats most definitely true. I see all these videos and i shake my head every time on the topic these chicks bring up. And these are grown college students saying this.
@inthelifeofmang1068 They're children at an indoctrination school.
not necessarily, it’s just that a part of the population (less than 50%) is subconsciously believing these ideologies, and since it’s less than 50%, we are not getting stupider
Yeah that’s fair...
Ignorance is the biggest problem of our century
Absolutely agree, can I caveat this with “confident and willful ignorance”?
Yeah. Pro-lifers are so ignorant
Indeed
The illusion of bliss...
do you think that they know just how much these companies earn by selling aborted baby's body parts? @@brandonwaddell2583
A newBORN is worthy of life when it is BORN and can sustain itself by BREATHING apart from its mother.
They couldn’t answer that 😊
are you god to decide who is worthy of life and not
It depends if the girl has been raped then she has every right for abortion!! Forcing someone to keep a baby when they were drugged raped or intoxicated and it wasn't with concent!!
Agreed, But forcing a woman to keep a baby she can't support is fine?
@@eliasjakemoran6434 no that's wrong too I'm pro abortion
@@ghostface1628 Ohhhh. Well good! I wish we didn't need it, but it's unfortunately a necessary evil..
@@eliasjakemoran6434 true
Her looking to the crowd like
"Help me im getting bombarded by truth"
You can separate each one of them and ask him the questions and none of them will know but in a group they all act like they know they're all idiots I bet you there was a furry or them or though or a shoe or an ice cream cone humper in there somewhere.. I guarantee there were no male or females in there anywhere
Truth? From a zealot cult member? Nothing to do with truth. Just another indoctrinated from birth religious nut that can't mind her own business.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 KJV
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Acts 3:1919 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,
We gotta be baptized for remissions of sins find lake river pond n whole body under water in jesus christ.
Acts 2:38 38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the [a]remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Mark 16:15-16
15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
John 3:3-83 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born [a]again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
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What the older woman said was factually true but her counter wasn't a good reason to erase a woman's right to body autonomy. This was just another right-wing gasllghting.
She simply didn't come prepared. There is no truth in that matter, it's a war of opinion.
She was so smug and happy with herself when she managed to read her sign 😂
Yeah like just because she has a poster that says that it's got to be the truth the end all be all
Her sign made no sense at all too
She was like “my professor will be so proud of me” 😃
Can she understand herself and sustain herself!? Can she understand the word life in the full extent of the word.
She looks wired!
The shock after every question was posed ended me 😂😂 she's like sorry I didn't memorise my facts that far
Hear me out, how about we just protect the kids currently alive that ARE OUR FUTURE instead of actively discriminating against them? Why can’t people just accept people for their choices instead of actively trying to control other peoples lives. The fact that over 600 women get raped every day is a outrageous fact on its own but the fact that people are fighting to take away the right to have abortions for those women will literally die if they give birth to THEIR RAPISTS CHILD. And people are genuinely saying the child who isn’t even birthed is more important than their mother. Any respectable human being would never say they are more happy that they were kept alive despite it literally killing their mother against her and the rest of her families will.
She got that face of "How dare you ask me a question that will make me look like an idiot since I only know TikTok education?!"
😂😂😂
HHAAHAHAA
🤣🤣🤣
well china indirectly succeeds to take over US by making it the stupidest country ever
🤣 Her brain is still in an acorn level.
She thought her poster was the mic drop of the century and there would be no follow up questions 😂😂😂
With her stupid eyebrow movement.
Watching her is the cringest thing I've watched recently
Yeah that was hilarious
Evil people will do evil things and encourage others to do evil. Hitler convinced Nazis to kill Jewish men women and children. Those who kill children are evil just the same.
It was kinda sad because most young people behave exactly like this poor girl.🤦🏼♀️
I agree with that statement honestly. Living women do mean more than a potential baby in my opinion. If my wife being pregnant was going to harm her I would have to get rid of the baby because I'm not going to lose my wife. And the lady at the podium didn't make much sense she didn't really respond correctly to what this girl said. She just said a bunch of nonsense and confused everyone.
But you are confusing a TToP with an elective abortion… there is literally no medical reason for an elective abortion it’s only done to deliberately kill a healthy child of a healthy mother.
Why are ppl crying over a dead fetus inside someones stomach?
I don't think I've ever seen someone's confidence level drop so quickly 🤣
@Kenneth Chidozie this is the internet you can do whatever you want you don't need to ask permission
@@ritualslayner9067 actually, that's where the problem starts from. Where we think we can do anything just because it's the internet. NOPE
Tough for her to defend such a stupid thought...
yeah she's around like help me, help me guys,come on help me back me up LOL
The fact that she turns to the other students to answer the question for her 😂😂
Right, that was cringe lol
🙄 stfu... Baby boomers are the problem.
That's liberals for ya
And they still got it wrong… all a bunch of dunce Protestants.
@@santisplayhouse4737 it was
Logic begins when you know what you wrote on youre poster😂😂
Ignorance will be our downfall
She was so proud of that poster too… and it only took seconds to dismantle it 😂
Her poster was actually good it was the poor answers that ruined her
@@ayeeioweyou7503 so in other words, you believe an aged woman who has been able to experience life is more important than an innocent human life who will never get to experience life due to being unwanted and murdered.
@@ayeeioweyou7503Nah, the poster was as trash as the woman that read it. The way these 304s cheered at the potential for casual child murder is disgusting.
@@ayeeioweyou7503so a baby just out of the womb is murder able. An unconscious human incapable of e xx pressing this is murder able. Everyone who doesn’t agree with you is murderable. I see why you want this to be true, but it’s not.
@@ayeeioweyou7503No it wasn't. Can a newborn understand the flawed concept on her poster? No it can't. According to the premise of the poster newborns also wouldn't be considered "alive."
This student’s posture is that of someone who thinks they have a gotcha catch phrase, until they get one handed back to them.
How she always has to look to the people behind her. Sheeesh how is she even in university
Mommy and Daddy are so proud.
Personally for me it's the moment the brain is developed in the 8th week.
Abortion should be avoided if at all possible, but it should still be an option.
In what instance do you think it should still be an option?
@@Jesus.theTruth.theLife.theWay
i suppose of the father is not around and the female doesn't want to raise the child. because believe me if she doesn't want to raise but she brings the child to life that child is gonna go through some stuff.
@@Noor-sl5ep adoption exist… I’m adopted are you saying my life had no value? And do you have a such a perfect life that you think that even facing potential hardships should mean we can deliberately take your life away?
Personally, I 100% support not allowing these fools to have offspring.
Fr though
And I support you. These are kind of people who should just live with robots.
sadly though if they don’t population collapse is imminent
what happens when the growing rate of trans people and ruining their childeren mixed with gay couples(nothing against gay couples) and then girls who want abortions over the right of being a mother when all that mixes in america we get fucked, the rate of death in america is higher than rate of births now which wasent true for a while and when gen x starts being old enough to die(within 10-20 years) all we have left is millennia’s and gen z and the new gen. And a majority of us are retarded and believe this bs
I don’t understand… if people don’t want to children they should get fix!…No conception… no abortion
My favorite part of this is the little way she smiles after reading her poster, like she just dropped the biggest truth bomb ever
I thought the same thing! What a complete putzzzzzz
Yeah, like it was a big gotcha moment, lol
I think she was just proud of herself that she could read what the poster said
hahaha exactly
Too bad it was a dud. Lol
easy, if it can survive outside the womb on it’s own, for more than five minutes, it’s alive.
But why would you knowingly take a living human in an environment you know they cannot survive in and give them an arbitrary amount of time to survive? It’s like placing you under water and saying… well if you can’t survive for five minutes in that environment than you are not alive.., that’s some Salem Witch trial logic there lol.
@@Jesus.theTruth.theLife.theWay so babies living outside of the womb is akin to trying to drown someone? I don’t think you understand what you’re saying. if a baby is unable to live outside of the womb, you say that taking them out of the womb is drowning them. so keeping a baby alive that can’t live without heavy support, is drowning them. if a baby cannot survive outside of the womb for more than five minutes, it is unviable, and therefore will not have the same life quality as a viable baby.
This isn’t to say that disabled babies deserve to die. In fact, I think if the parents are willing to take on that responsibility, they should do it. If they are not able to mentally and physically and financially take care of a disabled child, they shouldn’t have to take on that burden. and if they know from the get-go that pregnancy will result in a child they can’t take care of properly, they should be allowed to terminate the pregnancy so the child doesn’t have to DROWN.
@@beefy74 yes lol it’s exactly like that… in both instances you are taking a living human who is completely viable in their current environment and purposely putting them in an environment where they can’t breath and or survive in. It’s not a hard concept and your logic on how to determine human life is very non scientific and barbaric.
A new born also takes constant care to survive.. and is in no way viable on their own… arguably it is much harder to keep a new born alive than a child in utero.
Fuck she was proud of that poster! Like her kid made it!! Wait, I mean, um...🤦🏼♂️
That girl was so smug and proud of her poster until she proved she did not know anything about the subject matter!
They are praised for their bravery of saying words. But debates are bravery to outsmart the devil for your soul. Words aren't enough, intelligence and understanding also aren't enough. They need to literally scrutinize themselves until they have at least a solid argument.
the best
Is this young woman in grade school? I know 7 year olds who can answer this simple question! 😮
@@cindihunter9119 Not sure to which of the speaker's questions you are referring, but like you I would expect most preteens to know about conception and gestation before they become indoctrinated with this ridiculous woke, loony-leftwing ideology.
What always amazes and astounds me about these pro-life vs abortion debates is that NO ONE seems willing to point out that the whole issue would be rendered completely moot if BOTH progenitors of the unwanted child had used contraception... i.e.: the man using a _condom_ to prevent passing or receiving an STD, AND the woman using either _an IUD or diaphragm,_ or taking the _contraceptive pill, or even the 'morning after pill' (which can be taken up to five days after intercourse)_ to prevent unwanted pregnancies!
These leftie losers want responsibility for their bodies, but practise none when having intercourse!
She was so proud of herself. Like my 4 yrold presenting me her newest drawing that I must leave on the fridge for a minimum of 3 mos😅
If a pregnant woman is killed by someone...that killer gets charged and possible convicted of 2 murders
That's the law.
@@jacqueslefave4296so by law, that means the fetus is a human life.
@@TheIllustriouBlueJay Yes. But strangely, the mother is given the very odd authority to kill the child. There is another oddity in the law. In many of not most states, a minor child can get an abortion against the will of her parents and the courts will back up the child, but if she wants to keep the child, her parents can FORCE her to get an abortion.👿
@@jacqueslefave4296America at its best - keeping everyone divided on every single subject. The left right paradigm will never end. 😢
It's not that strange when you look a little deeper. The mother is the only one who can decide over the fetus' life because the fetus is using her body and resources, and she has the authority to decide if she doesn't want it. Nobody else has the authority to decide this, hence a killer can be charged for two murders
I don’t want to agree with either. One side because I think it’s a right to choose. The other side because they’re douche bags.
Only way for a right winger to seem to be right is to go to underprepared college students for debates. Reminds me of Ray Comfort.
Indeed
It is a lesson to keep quiet and to learn and to speak when you are more confident in the topic. The girl is so close to being right.
@@zhontac6194that girl doesn’t even know what’s coming out of her own mouth foh
I was born at 26 weeks so to hear that women yell out 30 weeks and on made my blood boil
Babes, only 1% of abortions occur after 21 weeks… trust me no one is willingly aborting at that point, it’s happening because either the fetus is dead or it will be born so unhealthy that it will die quickly after birth or if the mother is at serious risk of death (and even then many moms chose to stay the course). 1% babes, that’s it. 6% between 14-21 weeks. All the rest are before 14 weeks. Please educate yourself
All my babies were early too. This is sick
@@savannahsherry2778 1% of abortions happen after 21 weeks. 6% happen between 14-21 weeks. All the rest occur before 14 weeks. No abortions done past 21 weeks are done because a mother changed her mind, they are done for purely medical reasons. No doctor would ever perform abortion after 21 weeks unless the fetus was dead, would die quickly after birth, or if the mother’s health was in serious concern. Please educate yourself. Late term abortion is barely even a thing, and only a thing when it’s so very medically necessary and it’s probably the most heartbreaking thing a pregnant woman could go through.
God bless you; my last baby was 32 weeks.
@@Roo_724 Many doctors (OBGYN specifically) have proven that abortions are almost never medically necessary.
I like how she is looking at everyone to answer for her 😂
Im just laughing, it’s getting RIDICULOUS these daysss
"help me out here guys"
And the "gotcha"! look she gives thinking she's solved the entire debate by saying "potential babies."
Priceless.
Wrong.
But priceless.
Looking around like she's on the price is right lmao
She had to read her own poster. Let that sink in .
Why is she confusing a fetus with a newborn?
It’s alive. It can grow and it can die. Being able to grow is one of the *defining characteristics* of something that is alive.
I love how her body snaps and she looks around for group validation when the lady says “it’s because you don’t know”. Hahaha.
Might be one of the greatest reaction to being demolished by logic EVER
GRETA did this at a UN meeting! Greta handed the mic 🎤 to her team when a reporter asked Greta a serious Q about Climate Change
My poster reads: Why am I obsessed with killing another living human being?
@Tom Maika Greta? Greta who?
Monkey see m9bkey do. Usually because parents were lazy and didn't enforce morals and values. Instead enabled them, made excuses for there wrongs. And here is a great example.
When you raise your hand with confidence and still get it wrong 😂
😅😂
😂😂😂😂😅
Worst feeling in school :(
@@Corn-Marstrue man
men, level with me here. picture this: your wife got r@ped and is now pregnant. would you want her to keep another mans baby? how would you feel if when he gets released (because r@pe isn’t charged correctly in a court of law) he comes and tries to get custody of the child? how would you feel if your wife will quite literally die if she has this baby? would you choose the unborn child over her life? i just dont understand anti-aborition 💀💀
How is it logical to say you're against a man forcing his will on a woman's body but support a woman forcing her will on a child's body?
You want your wife to be a murderer?
Why not just place the child for adoption?
If my husband wanted me to kill a child, I'd see him as worse than the man that attacked me.
@@mrsW- first of all, the baby doesn’t even have a full body, let ALONE comprehensive thoughts at the time of an abortion. second of all, read my comment again? it literally could kill people if they dont get abortions sometimes, and putting a child you gave birth to up for adoption is not only emotionally taxing, but a difficult process during what would likely be a time of depression leading one to su1cide. i know you’re never gonna pull a woman but google is RIGHT there. so please educate yourself on what your talking about because u clearly dont understand what you’re yapping on about 💗💗💗
when the speaker begins with: "uh, so, my poster says", it was pretty clear that she was not about to win a debate.
She really thought getting up and reading off a poster was a mic drop lol
Right lol
It’s wild to watch someone so emotional versus someone so collected.
Although i support abortion, I feel like the girl reading the poster really needs to get her facts straight. Girl is fighting for something she didn't even research enough💀 it looks like a pathetic attempt-
@Rupsana Begam abortion is the murder of a life God put on this earth. If you support abortion you must also support suicide cuz my body my choice.
@Rupsana Begam no chery picking
The person who's collected gets to ask the easy questions though. The answers are extreamly controversial.
@@rupsana_begam agreed, I feel quite bad, if she wants to represent pro choice she should have researched a lot more in order to weigh into the argument
I wish I could respond to her, instead of the woman in white. Its fine to accept a foetus is living but we don't place the same value on everything that's living. It's not as black and white a discussion as either side makes it out to be.
No one has ever said that a woman choosing to have her child is wrong. The same should be said for a woman choosing not to. Womans choice, womens rights. Not for control by 'others'.
As soon as conception happens, that fetus is alive and has to be protected.
Mark Twain; "Never argue with stu-pid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
AKA Repulbicans
@@Tony29103 It sounds like you're having trouble dealing with the day to day trials of living with the Dunning-Krueger Effect. Perhaps you can locate a support group. It can be managed, even if it can't currently be cured.
@@Tony29103weird way to spell liberals
No.intelligent people are never dragged to stupid peoples levels: how shall this work?😂😂😂
Under rated comment.
She was soooo proud of herself until reality sunk in.
Here's why the teacher handeld the situation wrong
1. He's a grown ass man and he saw the photo of an explicit TEENAGE girl.
2. He literally showed it the ENTIRE FRICKING class the photo. That literally makes the situation more uncomfortable, and all the kids who didn't even had the photo basically saw it.
3. He assumed that every student had the photo, which can or can't be true. He should've called the police and let THEM control their phones.
4. Just like I said, he wasn't sure if EVERYONE had the photo so he took all the phones and basically threw it in the trash. Just like I said, the police should have came and control their phones and take the phones of the kids who have the picture and basically give it to the parents or something and then they will talk to the principal on what to do. And phones are also expensive, so if he gets sued he'll have to pay a lot of money, he should've played smart not dumb.
5. He was mad at the kids and then did something illegal by threwing their phones and them the man came who was basically doing his normal job and then he starts hitting him. That's sooooo immature of him, the poor man probably already hates his job and has to work to get money, and then this teacher does this? He definitely needs to sue him.
6. After all what he did, he'll get himself even more in trouble than the kids probably, and guess what? Everyone will hate the girl cuz everyone will blame her and she might even get bullied more, and guess what? He didn't help he made the situation worse. He's a dumb teacher who should get fired
I'm confused. I think you might be on the wrong video.
@@Emsev100Lmao yes you're right I'm on a wrong video 😭😭😭 I'm so stupid help
@@mariabop regarded
A baby feeds off the food its mother eats, they are connected by an umbilical cord. If the mother’s life stops so does the baby! If the child in a womb can lose its life when the mother loses hers. How can it not have been alive?
I loved the way Kristin destroyed the student’s argument by just asking her questions .
Much lob here for Kristin
Lobe it!!
I don’t lob anything. In fact I habe them all
What an ugly poster the girl had and got cheers.
She quoted a poster she made herself, then every answer after that she looked back at the peanut gallery to answer for her..and all they had was "like ya know, 30 weeks or something like what". We are fucking doomed.
The answer to that question was 21 weeks! A child can live outside of the woom at 21 weeks
@chris clark so up to that point a growing baby isn't considered a human ? What about at 20 weeks and 6 days ?
“Bruh saying peanut gallery is sooooo racist..” -My ex
@@chrisclark1852 Yes but according to law it is when DNA is generated with in the baby, so about 6-7 weeks. This is also when a strong heart beat is formed and noticeable.
lol, loved the peanut gallery phrase
She went to this shebang to talk about her poster and what it said. When asked questions she was completely outclassed from word one. I refuse to accept this as the future of our country.
Is not your body not your problem?Not your baby not your problemNot your body, not your problem, not your baby, not your problem.