I would love it if one day you could make a video about the baladi of upper egypt! I'm dying to know a little more! Thank you very much for these valuable videos!
Dear Rakshanda Bellydancer, I'm so glad that you liked the videos. I'll prepare the information about this kind of performance as soon as possible to make a video about it and then notify you.
good morning teacher, as always it is a pleasure to see your videos, could you answer me, because I am confused with the terms, baladi awaadi and baladi eshra/ashra....could you tell me what each one means and what is the difference between them? thank you very much for reading me...here always your fan from Buenos Aires Argentina
Dear Rakshanda Bellydancer, Baladi dance is type of dance performance created by most of the Egyptian women who used to live in popular places. They used to perform it indoors. This type of dance became famous by Awalim who composed several kinds of music and songs for it. Later, a lot of different types of Baladi music appeared such as Baladi awadi, ashara Baladi and Baladi Awalim ... etc. - Some people said that the name of Baladi Awadi was because the first musician composed it his name was "Awaad". Others said that was because the first musician composed it was using an oud musical instrument. - Ashara Baladi also a type of Baladi music. This term belongs to the popular places in Egypt and have meaning behind. Ashara means ten (10) , The Egyptians used it in their conversation a long time ago as: Let's take "ashara raha" = ten breaks or play "ashara kotshina" = ten cards and so on. Of course many musicians lived in the popular areas of Egypt, so they used the same term in their composition as well. By the way, I'm also your fan from Egypt and love your dance performance very much.
ok teacher I understand perfectly and I thank you very much for your prompt response, my problem now is that I still don't understand how each of these types of baladi differs!! example: awaadi and eshra for example..... .and the relationship between awaadi and oud? awaadi means oud or that it comes from an awalim who played the oud?
@@Rakhshandabelly86 The relationship between all these different types of Baladi terms is your type of dance. I mean when you perform "Tacaseem" or fast dance steps that translate the music through your body. And believe me, the Baladi terms are not big problem but your dance steps.
Thank you for answering my questions, and also going through my videos, you are very kind! I had already told you on another occasion, here in Argentina there is appalling misinformation, in fact, most of the time, things are understood backwards, the issue of baladi is something extremely complex for us, because whenever we ask Egyptians they differ a bit in the answer .... imagine until a few weeks ago we believed that the tabloh was only to refer to the baladi. I am a teacher here, and I always try to ensure that my students have the most reliable information possible, that is why I love it and thank you so much for reading me, and above all things that you always remember to put the subtitles in the videos, although they are not in Spanish, it does not matter many times I stop the video and come to the wonderful translator!!!! I thank you very much for every minute of your precious time!!! you are a precious jewel of Egyptian art! never change
@@Rakhshandabelly86 Thank you so much for your wonderful words. The misunderstand in dance was one of my main reasons that pushed me to create this channel. Spanish is one of the most important languages, and I think it is the fourth or fifth in importance in the world. I speak four languages and unfortunately Spanish is not one of them. By the way, I created a new video specially for your question explained the meaning of the most common Baladi names. I hope you like it. ruclips.net/video/V4nEFP4E6u4/видео.html Also, don't hesitate to write me any question you haven't a clear answer for it and I'll try to explain or create video to it.
People always say that when Fifi Abdo wore the white galabeya, she was imitating the men's style. I did not know this was the original dress for baladi. So what you are saying is baladi dance was homestyle, indoors. Then you seem to differentiate belly dance from oriental dance, but I would like to know what are the differences in your opinion between when we should call it the oriental dance and what you are calling belly dance. In some videos, you seem to say they are the same and some videos you say they are different, such as this one, but I would like to know the way in which you think they are different, oriental dance and belly dance.
Hello my dear PharidaDarwish, I'm glad to receive your comment and questions. The white galabiya has been a phenomenon of home wear for most of the ordinary women in Egypt for a long time. Fifi used it because she still remembers this phenomenon from where she was living in Muhammad Ali Street. There has been a confusion between oriental dancing and belly dancing worldwide since the nineteenth century except most of the Arab countries due to the lack of a correct definition for the meaning of this form of performance. Internationally, the common term for oriental dance is belly dancing although, belly dancing refers to the dance of seduction but oriental dancing refers to the highest level of folk dance. There will be an explanation of belly dancing in the next video. Perhaps, I will make a video explaining the idiomatic terms in folk dance and how it appears within society.
I get so confused when you say belly dance because there is no such thing in the Arabic language. I know Raks Baladi and Raks Sharki, because these are the terms used in Arabic. Belly dance is a word created in the West and they use it as a blanket term for any type of dance using hip movements from Egypt and North Africa and the Middle East. So when you use that term when talking about Egyptian dance, like when you say Baladi, Belly Dance and Oriental dance, I'm confused. There's no such thing called Belly dance in Egypt. Raks batn... There's no such thing.
My dear Truth Teacher2007, There is no confusion if you look from the perspective of the term itself. Of course, there is no type of dance in Egypt called belly dancing, "Raks batn", and this term is linguistically written in the West. Later it became famous and popular all over the world. I have explained this error several times and there will be a special video that I'll create very soon toward this topic. In my view, we can use this term to refer to the seduction dance rather than to deny it.
@@TamerAziz It still confuses me. I'm forced to use it here in the West because if I say Raks anything, people have no idea what I'm talking about, so I advertise my classes as Egyptian Belly dance. Once I get them in class I explain that this is an incorrect term and I teach them the right name. I think if we keep doing this in time people will recognize it. It would also help them to understand that it's a cultural dance and not just any kind of gyrations in a revealing costume. This is one of the main reasons why I became a dancer. The fact that I'm a man doing a dance most people associate only with women causes people to ask questions and gives me the opportunity to give a deeper explanation about the complex history and culture behind it. As far as seductiveness. Any dance can be seductive. It all depends on the intention of the performer. Any dance can also be done in a vulgar manner as well. Just imagine the difference between the way Sohair Zaki danced and the was Sahar Hamdi danced. One was a lady, very elegant and the other was........ well... if you ever saw her dance, you know what I mean. The same exists in the West with dancers who call themselves belly dancers. I think though in the West the seductive attitude is heightened due to the stereotypical idea of "the harem girl" fantasy. I have never, ever seen a dancer in Egypt, even the vulgar ones, giving the men in the audience seductive looks. Or as I call it come f**** me eyes, if you know what I mean. The Egyptian woman doesn't have to throw herself at men to beg for attention. She has a confidence in her beauty and she knows that just because she's a woman, the second she enters a room, she has more attention than she wants. I think though a big shift happened when Dina came on the scene. She was deliberately provocative in a way that no dancer had been before. She became famous because of the shock value of the way she presented herself. Unfortunately, everyone felt they had to copy her. Now the trend in Cairo is to have plastic surgery, they bigger the better. I miss the days when having a normal body was enough. Naima Akef didn't have double D bra cup, but we feel in love with her because of her charm, her beauty and her dance, with no hint of vulgarity. I think part of the problem is that globally, the influence of America is being felt where sex is pushed in our faces in a very blatant way that in my opinion is not pretty. It leaves nothing to the imagination anymore. Sexuality is a normal part of the human experience, but there's a line between being attractive and animalistic in my opinion.
It has come from outwith the Egyptian dance but everyone seems to use the term. I like to call it Egyptian or Oriental dance but we also have the bellydance term now
@@carolmarr6607 Thanks for the clarification, my next video will be about belly dancing and how this term became popular as well as when and why we can use the common term even if it does not indicate the correct meaning of it.
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I would love it if one day you could make a video about the baladi of upper egypt! I'm dying to know a little more! Thank you very much for these valuable videos!
Dear Rakshanda Bellydancer, I'm so glad that you liked the videos. I'll prepare the information about this kind of performance as soon as possible to make a video about it and then notify you.
good morning teacher, as always it is a pleasure to see your videos, could you answer me, because I am confused with the terms, baladi awaadi and baladi eshra/ashra....could you tell me what each one means and what is the difference between them? thank you very much for reading me...here always your fan from Buenos Aires Argentina
Dear Rakshanda Bellydancer, Baladi dance is type of dance performance created by most of the Egyptian women who used to live in popular places. They used to perform it indoors. This type of dance became famous by Awalim who composed several kinds of music and songs for it. Later, a lot of different types of Baladi music appeared such as Baladi awadi, ashara Baladi and Baladi Awalim ... etc.
- Some people said that the name of Baladi Awadi was because the first musician composed it his name was "Awaad". Others said that was because the first musician composed it was using an oud musical instrument.
- Ashara Baladi also a type of Baladi music. This term belongs to the popular places in Egypt and have meaning behind. Ashara means ten (10) , The Egyptians used it in their conversation a long time ago as: Let's take "ashara raha" = ten breaks or play "ashara kotshina" = ten cards and so on.
Of course many musicians lived in the popular areas of Egypt, so they used the same term in their composition as well.
By the way, I'm also your fan from Egypt and love your dance performance very much.
ok teacher I understand perfectly and I thank you very much for your prompt response, my problem now is that I still don't understand how each of these types of baladi differs!! example: awaadi and eshra for example.....
.and the relationship between awaadi and oud? awaadi means oud or that it comes from an awalim who played the oud?
@@Rakhshandabelly86 The relationship between all these different types of Baladi terms is your type of dance. I mean when you perform "Tacaseem" or fast dance steps that translate the music through your body. And believe me, the Baladi terms are not big problem but your dance steps.
Thank you for answering my questions, and also going through my videos, you are very kind! I had already told you on another occasion, here in Argentina there is appalling misinformation, in fact, most of the time, things are understood backwards, the issue of baladi is something extremely complex for us, because whenever we ask Egyptians they differ a bit in the answer .... imagine until a few weeks ago we believed that the tabloh was only to refer to the baladi. I am a teacher here, and I always try to ensure that my students have the most reliable information possible, that is why I love it and thank you so much for reading me, and above all things that you always remember to put the subtitles in the videos, although they are not in Spanish, it does not matter many times I stop the video and come to the wonderful translator!!!! I thank you very much for every minute of your precious time!!! you are a precious jewel of Egyptian art! never change
@@Rakhshandabelly86 Thank you so much for your wonderful words. The misunderstand in dance was one of my main reasons that pushed me to create this channel. Spanish is one of the most important languages, and I think it is the fourth or fifth in importance in the world. I speak four languages and unfortunately Spanish is not one of them. By the way, I created a new video specially for your question explained the meaning of the most common Baladi names. I hope you like it.
ruclips.net/video/V4nEFP4E6u4/видео.html
Also, don't hesitate to write me any question you haven't a clear answer for it and I'll try to explain or create video to it.
Thank you for this
My dear Carol Marr, you're very welcome!
People always say that when Fifi Abdo wore the white galabeya, she was imitating the men's style. I did not know this was the original dress for baladi. So what you are saying is baladi dance was homestyle, indoors. Then you seem to differentiate belly dance from oriental dance, but I would like to know what are the differences in your opinion between when we should call it the oriental dance and what you are calling belly dance. In some videos, you seem to say they are the same and some videos you say they are different, such as this one, but I would like to know the way in which you think they are different, oriental dance and belly dance.
Hello my dear PharidaDarwish, I'm glad to receive your comment and questions. The white galabiya has been a phenomenon of home wear for most of the ordinary women in Egypt for a long time. Fifi used it because she still remembers this phenomenon from where she was living in Muhammad Ali Street. There has been a confusion between oriental dancing and belly dancing worldwide since the nineteenth century except most of the Arab countries due to the lack of a correct definition for the meaning of this form of performance. Internationally, the common term for oriental dance is belly dancing although, belly dancing refers to the dance of seduction but oriental dancing refers to the highest level of folk dance. There will be an explanation of belly dancing in the next video. Perhaps, I will make a video explaining the idiomatic terms in folk dance and how it appears within society.
Mr. Aziz it is a very interesting explanation!!!!!
@@natashira1962 Thank you so much!
I get so confused when you say belly dance because there is no such thing in the Arabic language. I know Raks Baladi and Raks Sharki, because these are the terms used in Arabic. Belly dance is a word created in the West and they use it as a blanket term for any type of dance using hip movements from Egypt and North Africa and the Middle East. So when you use that term when talking about Egyptian dance, like when you say Baladi, Belly Dance and Oriental dance, I'm confused. There's no such thing called Belly dance in Egypt. Raks batn... There's no such thing.
My dear Truth Teacher2007, There is no confusion if you look from the perspective of the term itself. Of course, there is no type of dance in Egypt called belly dancing, "Raks batn", and this term is linguistically written in the West. Later it became famous and popular all over the world. I have explained this error several times and there will be a special video that I'll create very soon toward this topic. In my view, we can use this term to refer to the seduction dance rather than to deny it.
@@TamerAziz It still confuses me. I'm forced to use it here in the West because if I say Raks anything, people have no idea what I'm talking about, so I advertise my classes as Egyptian Belly dance. Once I get them in class I explain that this is an incorrect term and I teach them the right name. I think if we keep doing this in time people will recognize it. It would also help them to understand that it's a cultural dance and not just any kind of gyrations in a revealing costume. This is one of the main reasons why I became a dancer. The fact that I'm a man doing a dance most people associate only with women causes people to ask questions and gives me the opportunity to give a deeper explanation about the complex history and culture behind it.
As far as seductiveness. Any dance can be seductive. It all depends on the intention of the performer. Any dance can also be done in a vulgar manner as well. Just imagine the difference between the way Sohair Zaki danced and the was Sahar Hamdi danced. One was a lady, very elegant and the other was........ well... if you ever saw her dance, you know what I mean.
The same exists in the West with dancers who call themselves belly dancers. I think though in the West the seductive attitude is heightened due to the stereotypical idea of "the harem girl" fantasy. I have never, ever seen a dancer in Egypt, even the vulgar ones, giving the men in the audience seductive looks. Or as I call it come f**** me eyes, if you know what I mean. The Egyptian woman doesn't have to throw herself at men to beg for attention. She has a confidence in her beauty and she knows that just because she's a woman, the second she enters a room, she has more attention than she wants.
I think though a big shift happened when Dina came on the scene. She was deliberately provocative in a way that no dancer had been before. She became famous because of the shock value of the way she presented herself. Unfortunately, everyone felt they had to copy her. Now the trend in Cairo is to have plastic surgery, they bigger the better. I miss the days when having a normal body was enough. Naima Akef didn't have double D bra cup, but we feel in love with her because of her charm, her beauty and her dance, with no hint of vulgarity. I think part of the problem is that globally, the influence of America is being felt where sex is pushed in our faces in a very blatant way that in my opinion is not pretty. It leaves nothing to the imagination anymore. Sexuality is a normal part of the human experience, but there's a line between being attractive and animalistic in my opinion.
It has come from outwith the Egyptian dance but everyone seems to use the term. I like to call it Egyptian or Oriental dance but we also have the bellydance term now
@@carolmarr6607 Thanks for the clarification, my next video will be about belly dancing and how this term became popular as well as when and why we can use the common term even if it does not indicate the correct meaning of it.
I will study and perform the golden era Balady. Style
Dear Seima Maria Pezza, The Balady dance style is fantastic.