The History of the Dravidian Languages

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @TheDragonHistorian
    @TheDragonHistorian  3 года назад +82

    Here are a few additional disclaimers, based on things that have been pointed out by commenters / 댓글에서 많은 분들이 지적해주신 오류 및 논란 사항을 알립니다:
    1) The idea that the Indus River Valley Civilization spoke Dravidian, as suggested by this video, is still controversial. Likewise, it is unknown whether the Northern Dravidian languages, especially Brahui, are the remnant of a previous Dravidian population or recent migrants. I decided to go with the former view based on genetic evidence showing that Brahui speakers are genetically closer to their local neighbors than other Dravidians.
    1) 영상에서 묘사한 것처럼 인더스 문명에서 드라비다어가 사용되었다는 가설은 여전히 논란의 대상입니다. 관련된 문제로, 브라후이어를 포함한 북드라비다어파가 과거 드라비다어족 화자들의 후손인지, 비교적 최근에 북쪽으로 이주한 이들의 후손인지는 알 수 없습니다. 이 영상에서는 브라후이어 화자들이 유전적으로 타 드라비다어 화자보다는 주변 인구에 더 가깝다는 사실을 근거로 전자의 가설을 택했습니다.
    2) The depiction of Tamil in Sri Lanka is likely incorrect. There is little evidence that Tamil was once widely spoken in southern Sri Lanka, as this video suggests. It seems I misread some pieces of evidence while doing research. 스리랑카에서의 타밀어 묘사는 잘못되었을 가능성이 높습니다. 영상에 나온 대로 한때 스리랑카 남부에서 타밀어가 통용되었다는 근거는 희박합니다. 제가 조사 중 특정 자료를 오독한 것 같습니다.

    • @Kong-se5ht
      @Kong-se5ht 3 года назад +4

      ruclips.net/video/KBV9xNQDA8w/видео.html
      There is a South Dravidian substratum in Sinhala (the Indo-Aryan majority language of Sri Lanka).
      Also South Dravidian was probably the elite Dravidian language of the Indus Valley Civilisation at least by the time of the Arya migrations. The Rig Veda contains several specific South Dravidian loan words (read linguistic archaeology by Franklin Southworth). The Proto-South Dravidian 1+2 branches must have spread south following the Arya migrations and the collapse of the Indus Valley Civilisation due to climate change.
      You are absolutely correct about Brahui, it is a prehistoric survival of the region, and it probably lies between Elamite and the other Dravidian languages in the Proto-Zagrossian family.

    • @thetatar8937
      @thetatar8937 3 года назад

      Make yeniseian languages next please: nobody made them and thé are really not known

    • @snigdha8404
      @snigdha8404 3 года назад

      Another mistake. You have shown that Kurukh-Malto were together spoken on the Bengal GB delta. But you made the area too much big and you divided them much later even though they broke before that time as Indic Aryans passed through them.

    • @louisdna9601
      @louisdna9601 3 года назад

      A French linguisr called Bernard Sergent is convinced that Burushaski is the descendant language of the tongue that was spoken in the Indus Valley Civilisation. Do you have an opinion on it?

    • @ranjanawrozi3449
      @ranjanawrozi3449 3 года назад

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  • @yadunandanyadav3398
    @yadunandanyadav3398 3 года назад +155

    Tamil, Kannada and Telugu are equally old spoken languages. Tamil literature is the oldest of all dravidian languages. Malayalam and modern tamil are languages emerging from old tamil. Telugu is quite different from other 3 as its branch of Dravidian is different. Kannada is more similar to Tamil even though it's script is similar to Telugu.

    • @sandeeppagade5345
      @sandeeppagade5345 3 года назад +13

      Nice explaination...

    • @linxuser897
      @linxuser897 3 года назад +4

      How is telugu's origin different?

    • @vat513
      @vat513 2 года назад +22

      @@yadunandanyadav3398 Telugu is a South Central Dravidian language under Proto-dravidian , Origin of Telugu is the same Proto Dravidian and it's not different origin . It belongs to Central branch of Dravidian that's all

    • @nothingexists5066
      @nothingexists5066 2 года назад +11

      Malayalam formed from tulu and Tamil

    • @linxuser897
      @linxuser897 2 года назад +11

      @@nothingexists5066 where did you get that information from?

  • @یاقوتسرخ-غ9ج
    @یاقوتسرخ-غ9ج Год назад +39

    South India was not added to the Indo-European language family and I think these special languages ​​should be protected

    • @scriptranda2670
      @scriptranda2670 Год назад +11

      273 million people speak Dravidian languages, which is almost equal to the population of USA

    • @syhuhjk
      @syhuhjk Год назад +7

      @@scriptranda2670 still not safe. Tulu is not recognized. Kerala is becoming an old age home. Most probably bengali or hindi will overtake malayalam in Kerala. Soon other Southern states follow the same due to the low total fertility rate.

    • @gazibizi9504
      @gazibizi9504 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@syhuhjkand that's how India will become a presidential system or wait for a civil war.

    • @ragnarlothbrok7973
      @ragnarlothbrok7973 8 месяцев назад +3

      Less then 2% of pakistan speaks Brahui 😢

    • @leroyurocyon
      @leroyurocyon 8 месяцев назад

      @@ragnarlothbrok7973 it's sad

  • @bhvintri
    @bhvintri 3 года назад +52

    Like for starting Proto-Dravidian from Indus Valley Civilization.
    But then Gujarat was the homeland of Proto-South-Dravidian, whereas rest of the Indus Valley remained North Dravidian.
    From Gujarat, Proto-South-Dravidian divided into three branches -
    a. Gondi-Telugu - It spreads from Gujarat to Madhya Pradesh to Eastern Maharashtra and finally to Chhattisgarh, Odisha and Telangana-Andhra.
    b. Kannada-Tamil - It spreads from Gujarat to Western Maharashtra to Karnataka and finally to Tamil Nadu and Kerala.
    c. Kolami-Parji - It spreads from Gujarat to Khandesh to Eastern Maharashra, and then partly pushed to Odisha and largely absorbed by more numerous Gondi-Telugu.

    • @Kong-se5ht
      @Kong-se5ht 3 года назад +15

      The Rig Veda was composed further north closer to Punjab and Sindh. There are South Dravidian loan words in the RV. South Dravidian probably was the elite language of the Indus Valley Civilisation, the so-called Meluhha language (probably the word survived in Indo-Aryan as Milakkha/Mleccha).

    • @blackphoenix3220
      @blackphoenix3220 3 года назад +1

      @@Kong-se5ht gone nuts? Indus language could had been a language isolate like Sumerian.

    • @ralph6417
      @ralph6417 2 года назад +9

      @@blackphoenix3220
      Burning smell somewhere 😜😜

    • @sentamizh3133
      @sentamizh3133 Год назад +1

      Dravida is not a language and 1000 years before there was no Dravida word also...

    • @ishikilucas8148
      @ishikilucas8148 Год назад

      @@blackphoenix3220 could have been, but we don't know unless someone really cracks the seal script.

  • @anitakay8634
    @anitakay8634 3 года назад +128

    I think Kannada, rather than Telugu, was the dravidian language most widespread in modern-day Maharashtra. Considering that most of the ancient inscriptions there are written in old Kannada, Kannada-speaking empires like the Chalukyas and Rashtrakutas ruled over the entirety of Maharashtra and even further north, and there are lots of Kannada loanwords in Marathi. Many far-flung dravidian communities across middle India have oral tradition linking them to Karnataka. The Yadava dynasty, the first "Maratha" polity, was originally Kannada-speaking with Marathi becoming dominant as late as the 14th century.

    • @furqanshariff
      @furqanshariff 3 года назад +12

      Marathi is more widely spoken in upper kannada whereas telugu is spoken till Osmanbad and nanded

    • @gazibizi9504
      @gazibizi9504 3 года назад +18

      Most of today's South Andhra and Karnataka was Teluguised and Kannadised centuries ago respectively from some other probably some old Tamil dialect. Some form of old Telugu was surely spoken in large parts of Eastern Maharashtra. I would go on to say that South Central languages existed from somewhere above Vindhyas starting in a thin line and expanding towards South.

    • @user-io7sh7nx7c
      @user-io7sh7nx7c 3 года назад +11

      @@furqanshariff if you see the inscriptions in Vemulawada, Lepakshi and Penukonda, all are in Kannada.
      Kannada people ruled Marathi and Telugu people and Kannada origin Vengi Chalukyas were the first to use Telugu as a court language and Kannada Seuna Yadavas were first to use Marathi language.

    • @NithinBhargava
      @NithinBhargava 3 года назад +6

      @@furqanshariff Telangana shares no border with Osmanabad district. Here in Omerga, Naldurg, etc. Kannada is the majority language and in Deglur of Nanded. Telugu is present in Biloli, Kundalwadi, Dharmabad of Nanded.

    • @vikramantin3995
      @vikramantin3995 2 года назад +4

      You are 100% correct.

  • @yeahlol2911
    @yeahlol2911 3 года назад +72

    Would love to see the austronesian one because how widespread the languages are.

  • @duhansingh772
    @duhansingh772 10 месяцев назад +25

    Hindi speaker here ...apologizing for all that North Indian bigots are b@rking against our Dravidian brothers.
    It's historically evident that Proto Dravidian are mostly older than Sanskrit

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 10 месяцев назад +3

      I'm from South and any mature person would know that dating any language is utter foolishness. It's like asking if humans are older than monkeys.

    • @samarthd9948
      @samarthd9948 6 месяцев назад +2

      thank you! Kannadiga here, i too know hindi, i like hindi, its just tat we dont like it when its imposed onto us. but not all people are like that, there are many who respect the languages and understand the sentiments of us dravidian people.

  • @KK-px4ey
    @KK-px4ey 3 года назад +18

    evolution of languages majorly affected by following reasons
    1.When speakers of a particular group come in contact with a group that speaks a different language .Based on who holds the power ( politically or spiritually)in society, old language gets reshaped which may leads to formation of entirely a different language
    when Aryans migrated to north India they held important positions in society and largely contributed to reshaping of native languages this led to formation of Indo-Aryan language family. In south of India Aryan's had no political authority ,But through Hinduism most of languages in south influenced by Sanskrit.
    2.Religion also has the power to reshape a language ,eg due to influence of Islam most of languages like Persian ,Pashto and Urdu have numerous amount of loan words from Arabic and fundamentally affected by it.
    3.Geogaphic isolation is also a reason to formation of varies branches in language family .eg, Sicilian language

  • @rhyme8387
    @rhyme8387 Год назад +15

    I'm from Sri Lanka my language is sinhala language. Because I'm not racist only I'm human 💯 and I appreciately loving Dravidian culture in long time. Specially Dravidian & Munda tribe cultures ❤️🙏🌎

    • @Jafffii
      @Jafffii Год назад +2

      thats a very unique and beautiful language!! love from tamil nadu!

    • @rhyme8387
      @rhyme8387 Год назад +1

      @@Jafffii wow I love Tamil Nadu ❤️

    • @vanisridhar5509
      @vanisridhar5509 Год назад +4

      Sinhalese history has many connection from south india, mainly Kerala and Tamil Nadu.

    • @rhyme8387
      @rhyme8387 Год назад +4

      @@vanisridhar5509 Yes, they are mostly genetically related to the people of South Indian Tamil Nadu, Kerala and East Indian states of Orissa and Bengal.

    • @supremegodemperordonaldtru3563
      @supremegodemperordonaldtru3563 Год назад +6

      What tf is this guy talking about Sinhalese are 72% western Bengali, 12% Gujarati and 16% Dravidian ancestry. These ratios change depending on caste. Lower the caste higher the Dravidian admixture vice versa. The language is Indo Aryan directly stemming from Magadhi Prakrit. This guy is writing alternate reality fantasy fiction..

  • @CostasMelas
    @CostasMelas 3 года назад +24

    Great job!

  • @anfinnb.8425
    @anfinnb.8425 3 года назад +17

    North Dravidian is quite evidently paraphyletic (not clearly sharing any innovations), the initial division of the family being Brahui vs. Kurukh-Malto vs. Core Dravidian. I suggest the family disintegrated in a more sequential fashion.

  • @Noobgrunt
    @Noobgrunt 3 года назад +11

    Wow this is great you deserve a break

  • @ArktourosUltorMaximus7600
    @ArktourosUltorMaximus7600 3 года назад +16

    In short Tamils are from Indus Valley Civilization

    • @udaykamal4621
      @udaykamal4621 Год назад +5

      As telugu, gondu, chenchu , brahui etc

    • @log4john
      @log4john 12 дней назад

      Its bit difficult to believe that when IVC collapsed, Tamil or Telugu speaking people from IVC showed up in south and started spreading their culture. Most likely scenario is a language which was an older relative of current Dravidian language might have been spoken in IVC. When Indo Aryans came, due to their political domination, those languages might have replaced. This might be the case not just IVC region, but the entire north India!!

  • @AbhiN_1289
    @AbhiN_1289 2 года назад +15

    I believe the Proto Dravidian was more widespread in India than just in the Indus Valley. My guess is that the Harappans spoke a Dravdian language or at least a dialect of Proto Dravidian.
    There is a lot of dichotomy between the south Dravidian languages and central Dravidian languages. Some words in central Dravidian languages (including Telugu) lack parallels in South Dravidian.

    • @sentamizh3133
      @sentamizh3133 Год назад

      It's not dravida it's Tamil bro...1000 years before dravida word not exist

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 Год назад +13

      @@sentamizh3133 when big bang occurred there was no word called bigbang. That doesn't mean it didn't. Your logic is to be laughed off.

    • @udaykamal4621
      @udaykamal4621 Год назад +6

      @@sentamizh3133 typical tamil hypocrite 😂😂

    • @sentamizh3133
      @sentamizh3133 Год назад +1

      @@ancientminds199 yes when big bang happened we didn't named it but world first spoken language people named it Tamil so if u call it dravida or any other name it won't change it...if I call u in some other name will you accept it😏

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 Год назад +3

      @@sentamizh3133 Let’s take two languages X and Y at time t0. Then at a later date through times t1-t5, we will have Xt1, Xt2, Xt3, Xt4 and Xt5 similarly, Yt1, Yt2, Yt3, Yt4 and Yt5. Now, which of these is oldest? Most would answer Xt0 and Yt0. But, in fact none exists other than Xt5 and Yt5. Since, languages are primarily spoken they don't exist beyond the point of utterance. Assume now, we have written records left for each of these, viz., Xt3, Xt4 and Xt5 but Yt4, and Yt5. Now, I repeat the question, which of these is oldest? People would quip with Xt3. In fact, Xt3 wouldn't have come into existence without Xt0, Xt1, Xt2. Therefore, the answer is wrong. Hence we should say Xt3 and Yt4 were the earliest recorded stages of X and Y but not the oldest representations of X and Y. Logically, Xt5 and Yt5 are the continuities of Xt0 and Yt0 through ages. Neither of X and Y is older than the other.

  • @AlqanmyshQaiyryr
    @AlqanmyshQaiyryr 3 года назад +19

    Can you make history of the Yeniseian languages or the history of Tibeto-Burman languages ?
    Also great video !

  • @deekshithkumar1215
    @deekshithkumar1215 2 года назад +24

    Although Tulu branched off from the original Dravidian language, it has not yet been included in the eighth schedule
    This is bad thing☹️☹️☹️

    • @Tuluva_Bunt
      @Tuluva_Bunt Год назад +5

      Unfortunately yes. We are still fighting and won't give up.

    • @vanisridhar5509
      @vanisridhar5509 Год назад +5

      ❤️ from tuluva vellalar of Tamil Nadu. Tulu is gaining attention little by little.

    • @bhargavm2720
      @bhargavm2720 Месяц назад

      Speakers are less

  • @orphan9334
    @orphan9334 3 года назад +59

    Hindi belt is chewing and eating our Dravidian languages like anything else 🥺

    • @gazibizi9504
      @gazibizi9504 3 года назад +10

      Actually that would be true for North Indian languages. Hindi isn't even felt in South except for Cosmopolitan cities of Bangalore and Hyderabad.

    • @anuragrsimha
      @anuragrsimha 3 года назад +8

      If it further continues, a civil war would be upon us....

    • @BTCE-HariprasathA
      @BTCE-HariprasathA 3 года назад +4

      @@anuragrsimha yea tamilnadu asking separate country till now..where they mingled with China and Usa

    • @shreekumar5079
      @shreekumar5079 3 года назад +11

      skin colours based on geography, food etc. I have seen many Kerala,karantaka ppl are very fair and look like north indians where as ppl from tamilnadu and Ap are little darker in colour. Ppl in North India also mix of darker and light skin.we all are same.This colour discrimination created by Britishers to divide india and also the Aryan- Dravidian concept. I was laughing on one comment where one person was telling Shiva is north indian God😂😂 because he stays in himalaya.some stupid ppl divide gods also into north and south categories

    • @vicnad92
      @vicnad92 3 года назад +8

      The Hindi impositionist which are ringwing hindu nationalist already destoryed many indo aryan languages. Rajastani (which had its own script & closely related to Gujarati) is counted as a 'Hindi' dialect and has no protective status from the government. Another example, Marathi, was forced to change to devanagari script during British India rule and abandoned its original modi script.

  • @simich1601
    @simich1601 3 года назад +8

    ur the best mapper ever! Keep up!

  • @chucko.2678
    @chucko.2678 17 дней назад +1

    By the time the Indus civilization arose, the area had already been colonized by farmers from the Mideast, where the ancient Elamite language of S.W. Persia is thought to be a relative of Dravidian. These farmers arrived in Afghanistan by 6000 B.C. but with crops grown in winter, not the summer monsoon of the subcontinent. Farmers were slow to advance further, but it is reasonable to assume that Dravidian stockherders went on ahead of them. The only OTHER Indian languages that old are of the Mon-Khmer group of S.E. Asia, which now exist in eastern India only in small pockets.

  • @adarshsk10
    @adarshsk10 3 года назад +29

    bit incorrect, kannada language was spread till godavari river, kannada started declining after kalyani chalukya kingdom collapsed

    • @Sinhala_buddhist-3934
      @Sinhala_buddhist-3934 2 года назад +1

      Kannada didn't spread all over India like Tamil, Telugu, Sanskrit and Hindustani.

    • @levi6466
      @levi6466 Год назад +4

      @@Sinhala_buddhist-3934 but it was one of the official languages of ancient times

    • @Sinhala_buddhist-3934
      @Sinhala_buddhist-3934 Год назад

      @@levi6466 no. It's limited only to the present day of Karnataka region. Thats all. Not like Tamil or Telugu.

    • @levi6466
      @levi6466 Год назад +5

      @@Sinhala_buddhist-3934 kannada was official in Karnataka, Maharashtra, Gujarat, Goa, AP & Telangana and also in some parts MP
      In the time of vijayanagara empire it was also official in TN of Kerala

    • @Sinhala_buddhist-3934
      @Sinhala_buddhist-3934 Год назад

      @@levi6466 lol. Joke of the century ,my dear. Dude, please go and learn history before instead making arguments here. Kannada is mostly limited to Karnataka.

  • @karthikbharadwaj9949
    @karthikbharadwaj9949 3 года назад +16

    I think Kannada was spoken in Maharashtra and Goa regions, instead of South Central Dravidian languages like Telugu and Gondi.

    • @gazibizi9504
      @gazibizi9504 3 года назад

      @SIDDHAARTH MANIAN it is a separate language.

  • @boemiobe4t993
    @boemiobe4t993 3 года назад +12

    I love all of your videos! Please make more American, European and African panguage families!! It would be amazing!

  • @charithreddy23
    @charithreddy23 Год назад +7

    It ill-behoves anyone to rake up this issue time and again. The basic fact remains that the term Dravida in Sanskrit was not used to mean exclusively Tamil. In the ancient Sastras, Pancha Draavida Desas were described. Of those five Dravida lands, that of the Tamils happened to be just one. Read the sloka below :
    आन्ध्रा: कर्नाटकाश्चैव घूर्जरास्तमिळास्तथा ।
    महाराष्ट्रा इति ख्याताः पंचैते द्रविडाः स्मृताः ॥ (वागनुसंहिता)
    - సుబ్రహ్మణ్యo మర్రిపుడి గారు
    (Subrahmanyam Marripudi Garu)

  • @Pleiadian45
    @Pleiadian45 3 года назад +17

    What about Elamites?

    • @Ida-xe8pg
      @Ida-xe8pg 3 года назад +2

      Not proven whether they are related to the Dravidians or not and now its rejected by everyone

    • @based4560
      @based4560 3 года назад +5

      The theory is very disputed

    • @based4560
      @based4560 3 года назад

      @SIDDHAARTH MANIAN not really

    • @nayamap4402
      @nayamap4402 3 года назад

      Their mainlands are in south west persia so its very doubtful

  • @sean668
    @sean668 3 года назад +26

    Sick dude. I see you went with the relict refugium Brahui theory instead of the early-modern northward migration one. How'd you make up your mind on that one?

    • @TheDragonHistorian
      @TheDragonHistorian  3 года назад +37

      I decided to go with this hypothesis because I read about genetic evidence suggesting that Brahui speakers are genetically closer to local, neighboring populations than other Dravidians. This would suggest that the Brahui speakers have been in Balochistan for a long time, being genetically assimilated but retaining their language.

    • @anandsai9378
      @anandsai9378 3 года назад

      @@TheDragonHistorian Genetics and language cannot be related...some tribes themselves adopt to a particular language.

    • @TheDragonHistorian
      @TheDragonHistorian  3 года назад +18

      @@anandsai9378 But genetics can tell you *when* a tribe adopted a particular language.

    • @connormurphy683
      @connormurphy683 2 года назад +1

      @@anandsai9378 they often are related. Not always, but often.

    • @ahsanibrahim797
      @ahsanibrahim797 2 года назад +1

      @@TheDragonHistorian I speak Brahui but I'm not Dravidian I'm a Baloch

  • @Hopelessboy-Av7
    @Hopelessboy-Av7 Год назад +9

    Oldest language in the world 🔥🔥
    First Classical language of India 2004🔥
    Slogan language of UNO,NASA🔥🔥
    Longest classical surving language in the world 🔥UNESCO's First classical language 🔥🔥
    Currency language of Morris 🔥
    Official language of srilanka, Singapore, Malaysia, southern part of Africa 🔥
    Spoken by 70 Million ppls around the world 🔥
    First Indian state to oppose Hindi 1937🔥🔥
    Most hated language in india 😎.But no Panipuri beeda destroy the legendary language 🔥

    • @SanjayGopi-nc9sk
      @SanjayGopi-nc9sk Год назад

      FYI, Most hated Indian language in India is Hindi

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@SanjayGopi-nc9sk nope! It's DUMIL. Not because of the way it is..... just because of some DUMIL speaking fanatics

  • @satanshameer690
    @satanshameer690 3 года назад +24

    Good and most accurate mapping. This will surely trigger a lot of people

    • @GL-iv4rw
      @GL-iv4rw 3 года назад +4

      Who would be triggered by this?

    • @rt9637
      @rt9637 3 года назад

      @@OkarinHououinKyouma haha.

    • @rt9637
      @rt9637 3 года назад

      @Unknown Sapien lol Meitei are Tibeto Burman. Bishnupriya have Tibetan look but they are recent people developed from the relations between Indo Aryans and Meitei people somewhere around 16th or 17th century. As Kingdom of Manipur and neighbouring Indo Aryan kingdoms had thousands of years of relation.
      Assamese have Tibeto Burman DNA, but not prominent.

    • @blackphoenix3220
      @blackphoenix3220 3 года назад

      @Unknown Sapien Northeast also lies in South Asia.🙂

    • @swift14727
      @swift14727 3 года назад +2

      @@OkarinHououinKyouma No, "Dravidam" is a Tamil word, I'll explain it:
      Thiraividam=Thirai+ Idam
      Thirai means Sea in Tamil
      Idam means Place in Tamil
      Andhra, Karnadaka, Kerala and Tamil naadu all surrounded by sea, hence it's called Dravidam, by the way, I am not Tamil Supremacist, I believe in Bharatham and I love all citizens of this Great nation.
      Thiraimeelar became Thiramilar and eventually Thamilar.
      Thiraimeelar=Thirai+meelar
      Thirai means Sea in Tamil
      Meelar means people who return
      Tamils were great seafarers in ancient times, hence the name "Thiraimeelar".

  • @sentamizh3133
    @sentamizh3133 Год назад +7

    It's Tamil language family not dravidian language family...there is no evidance for dravida word 1000 years before...

    • @udaykamal4621
      @udaykamal4621 Год назад +2

      it must be telugu language family😂😂

    • @gazibizi9504
      @gazibizi9504 9 месяцев назад

      Languages don't have ages because people have always used language, it's just that languages evolve through time and become unintelligible to the unevolved. That's why Telugu is not new nor Tamil old.
      Tamil-Kannada was once one dialect that evolved first leaving Telugu-Gondi dialect which was also one dialect to retain some old Dravidian elements Tamil-Kannada abandoned.

  • @shreekumar5079
    @shreekumar5079 3 года назад +9

    skin colours based on geography, food etc. I have seen many Kerala,karantaka ppl are very fair and look like north indians where as ppl from tamilnadu and Ap are little darker in colour. Ppl in North India also mix of darker and light skin.we all are same.This colour discrimination created by Britishers to divide india and also the Aryan- Dravidian concept. I was laughing on one comment where one person was telling Shiva is north indian God😂😂 because he stays in himalaya.some stupid ppl divide gods also into north and south categories

    • @prajwalkannadiga8737
      @prajwalkannadiga8737 Год назад +2

      Karnataka and Kerala people are a mixture of Indo aryan n indigenous people

    • @rajsekharRonaldo5297
      @rajsekharRonaldo5297 Год назад +1

      Telugu people are not dark colour....,the average telugu person is brown in colour

    • @jerseyneil1
      @jerseyneil1 4 месяца назад

      Skin color varies, even within the same family of siblings looking at my Kerala parents and their brothers and sisters. I live in the US and one of my cousins is married to an Irish man and another cousin to a Polish girl. Their children all look white with absolutely little to no features of being Indian.

  • @AbhiN_1289
    @AbhiN_1289 2 года назад +4

    My guess is Proto Dravidian was spoken through out the subcontinent and the Indus People spoke a Dravidian language, or atleast a dialect of Proto Dravidian.

  • @hui-hui9921
    @hui-hui9921 3 года назад +25

    I wonder what was spoken in south India before the Dravidian languages

    • @Rajkumar-ul7ko
      @Rajkumar-ul7ko 3 года назад

      @Unknown Sapien mostly dravidian are hunter gatherers.

    • @Rajkumar-ul7ko
      @Rajkumar-ul7ko 3 года назад +2

      @Unknown Sapien no one know exactly, because all dravidian speakers were farmers, who were inbred with hunter gatherer people, who were indigenous people.

    • @Rajkumar-ul7ko
      @Rajkumar-ul7ko 3 года назад

      @Unknown Sapien steppe ancestry were indo european language speaker...

    • @blackphoenix3220
      @blackphoenix3220 3 года назад +3

      Maybe nothing?

    • @blackphoenix3220
      @blackphoenix3220 3 года назад

      @Unknown Sapien idk lol.

  • @omom7834
    @omom7834 3 года назад +29

    Great video...
    Proud to be a Dravidian....❤❤

    • @safuwanfauzi5014
      @safuwanfauzi5014 3 года назад +8

      Dravdian is native to all India-Pakistan and Bangladesh but replace by Hindi cousin like Indo-Iranian language, only Brahui still exist in Pakistan, Elam in Iraq also extinct replace by Semitic like Assyrian and Arabic.

    • @snigdha8404
      @snigdha8404 3 года назад +2

      @@safuwanfauzi5014 not bangaladesh. It's Bangladesh.

    • @ashokathegreat2397
      @ashokathegreat2397 3 года назад +8

      @@snigdha8404
      Your country should change the name to simply Bengal in my opinion.

    • @anilvm2426
      @anilvm2426 3 года назад +2

      @@safuwanfauzi5014 ✌️✌️

    • @ahsanibrahim797
      @ahsanibrahim797 2 года назад

      @@safuwanfauzi5014 I speak Brahui but I'm not Dravidian I'm a Baloch

  • @saikiranpallevada
    @saikiranpallevada 2 года назад +7

    My language is most spoken Dravidian language and we occupied the lands of kanadigas and Tamils from Vindyas.
    Now we are occupying USA and Canada.
    Don't take me wrong, we change our lands for own survival but not to invade🤣🤣.

    • @ahamedahamed722
      @ahamedahamed722 2 года назад +1

      You are right

    • @boopeshvaishnavanaidu2993
      @boopeshvaishnavanaidu2993 2 года назад +5

      Bro please stop this. I'm also Telugu. Rayalaseema ruled by Tamil and Kannadigas. They lost their land. But they never asked again. It means they just gifted that lands to us.

    • @saikiranpallevada
      @saikiranpallevada 2 года назад +3

      @@boopeshvaishnavanaidu2993 land is owned by the people who are living their not gifted, looks like you are going to say Britishers gifted India to Indians.

    • @udaykamal4621
      @udaykamal4621 Год назад +1

      @@boopeshvaishnavanaidu2993 ruled by kings of different origins. But the ppl of these regions telugu.

    • @prashanthreddy3326
      @prashanthreddy3326 Год назад +1

      ​@@udaykamal4621 correct

  • @rajakesari9562
    @rajakesari9562 2 года назад +89

    Dinosaurs spoke Tamil

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 Год назад +37

      Yeah man. When the first hydrogen atom formed... It was radiating Tamil.

    • @SanjayGopi-nc9sk
      @SanjayGopi-nc9sk Год назад +21

      @@ancientminds199 Adam spoke Tamil. Eve spoke Tamil. Serpent spoke to Eve in Tamil. Adam Appled the Apple or Figged the fig in Tamil. First Human intercourse was in Tamil. Abel and Cain Spoke Tamil. Enoch spoke with God in Tamil. God commanded Noah to make ark in Tamil. Noah's sons spoke Tamil. Nimrod Spoke Tamil. . God of Hebrews made covanent with Abraham in Tamil.

    • @ajinrj1844
      @ajinrj1844 Год назад +18

      It said by the believer who believe Sanskrit is spoken by god 😂😂😂 atleast Dinosaur were lived 💯

    • @skylinelover9276
      @skylinelover9276 Год назад +9

      Dinosaur have R1a DNA not H... Dinosaur were aryans warlike

    • @_SudiptaSarkar
      @_SudiptaSarkar Год назад +2

      Tu telugu hain na

  • @thesanantani9776
    @thesanantani9776 3 года назад +4

    Indians are mix of Dravidian and Aryan ancestry. Even Dravidian languages are influenced by Aryan languages. 🇮🇳 there are only Andamanise people have non mixed oldest indigenous peoples.

    • @vat513
      @vat513 2 года назад +14

      indo-Aryan languages are younger compared to Dravidian languages and Dravidian languages are designated as Classical languages .

    • @syhuhjk
      @syhuhjk Год назад

      Even andaman people are not pure. They're also mixed as per some research

  • @Amal-pc6uf
    @Amal-pc6uf 10 месяцев назад

    Informative video. Thanks

  • @화이팅-t2q
    @화이팅-t2q 3 года назад +14

    Soon some pseudo linguist followers wil insist that thses languages actually descend from Korean. I've seen so many people buying this bull shit just because they saw one documentary comparing Tamil and Korean.

    • @sean668
      @sean668 3 года назад +10

      Hyperdiffusionism. A plague of modern lingustics lol. It's how we get crazy things like "all languages are Serbian" or "the Maya spoke Sanskrit"

    • @TheDragonHistorian
      @TheDragonHistorian  3 года назад +6

      I almost considered making a joke about that in the comments but thought it'd be better to just not touch it haha.

    • @tommy-er6hh
      @tommy-er6hh 3 года назад

      @@TheDragonHistorian If you will not touch it with a 10 foot pole, how about with an 11 foot one? ;-)
      Kudos in the video!

    • @레몬밤자몽
      @레몬밤자몽 3 года назад +1

      한국어 화자 두명이서 영어로 대화하는 진귀한 장면

    • @existensistrubczthentruscatt
      @existensistrubczthentruscatt 3 года назад

      @@TheDragonHistorian i don't know,,,🤷‍♂️

  • @LeftistUprising
    @LeftistUprising 3 месяца назад +1

    It's interesting to me that Tamil and Kannada seemed to have diverged around 490 BC (3:22), but these two languages are much more similar than English and German, which diverged around 500 AD.

    • @miniepicness
      @miniepicness 2 месяца назад +1

      english and dutch are pretty similar

    • @LeftistUprising
      @LeftistUprising 2 месяца назад

      @@miniepicness so what?

  • @Kaiyrkz
    @Kaiyrkz 3 года назад +16

    So tamils came to Sri Lanka before singals

    • @VolcardoReviewer
      @VolcardoReviewer 3 года назад +4

      Before Tamils there were adivasis in Sri Lanka. Then came Sinhalese and Tamil people.

    • @shubh.bapi_9423
      @shubh.bapi_9423 3 года назад +5

      No, Veddas dominated Srilanka before Tamils.

    • @VolcardoReviewer
      @VolcardoReviewer 3 года назад +3

      @@shubh.bapi_9423 Veddas is just old folktales. Adivasis came first to Sri Lanka.

    • @ciaagent6968
      @ciaagent6968 3 года назад +2

      @@VolcardoReviewer What folktales? They are alive today and they have their own distinct culture which has echoes in Sinhalese culture.

    • @mukilanru
      @mukilanru 3 года назад +4

      @@VolcardoReviewer The Veddas are indigenous hunter-gatherers (adivasis).

  • @AlexVembar
    @AlexVembar Год назад +1

    Remember Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam were first recorded only in 8th, 10th and 14th C AD respectively

  • @lexi55410
    @lexi55410 3 года назад +9

    can you do a Uralic one?

  • @Templebells9099
    @Templebells9099 5 месяцев назад

    Magnificent illustration of timeline. Dhanyawaad.

  • @goingmerry123
    @goingmerry123 3 года назад +14

    I am Telugu

    • @arth423
      @arth423 3 года назад +8

      Greetings from the Finno-Ugric (Erzya). Dravidians forever !

    • @goingmerry123
      @goingmerry123 3 года назад +3

      @@arth423 Hello! Just found a video on your language, it sounds beautiful. Finno-Ugric forever!

    • @arth423
      @arth423 3 года назад +2

      @@goingmerry123 Sükprä/Сюкпря ❤️
      (thank you)

    • @RAINPoliane
      @RAINPoliane 3 года назад +3

      Iam malayali

    • @based4560
      @based4560 3 года назад +3

      Hi fellow telugu

  • @japi2k9
    @japi2k9 Год назад +2

    I was curious about the urheimat of proto-Central Dravidian, and also it's quite interesting if most of Indus Basin remained Dravidian-speaking like Gangetic Plain and the Himalayas (most specifically North Dravidian).
    PS: Since I already indicated an alternate scenario where both North India and Pakistan remained linguistically (Northern) Dravidian, what could be alternative name for this language family?

  • @abby-kamakoti
    @abby-kamakoti 3 года назад +5

    Amazing carnatic music,unable to focus on content,very nice music

  • @anaveragepotato.
    @anaveragepotato. 2 года назад +2

    Can you please provide the link of the music used in this video!

  • @Brucewayne-16
    @Brucewayne-16 3 года назад +3

    Hey Jaffna isn't in Sri Lankan map

  • @celestialweaver8460
    @celestialweaver8460 3 года назад +1

    I love your channel!

  • @varunraju.g1022
    @varunraju.g1022 2 года назад +3

    Bruh, Inscriptions from Chalukyas time has been found and says the land of Kannada speakers lay between the 2 rivers of Godhavari and Kaveri.
    So your video is false

    • @udaykamal4621
      @udaykamal4621 Год назад +2

      Andhra Satavahans inscriptions are found in Karnataka and Maharashtra so according to you , all these regions comes andhra.😂😂😂.
      inscriptions are made by the kings, common ppl living in that area would speak their language and the king conquered the region writes the the inscriptions in his language. Mughals and golconda kings wrote so many inscriptions , that doesn’t mean ppl living under their rule are speaking urdu😂😂😂😂

  • @HighLordBlazeReborn
    @HighLordBlazeReborn 5 месяцев назад

    A note from Sri Lanka- as many languages tend to do when cut off geographically, the Tamil spoken in north and eastern Sri Lanka is slightly less 'evolved' than that in Tamil Nadu, making them mutually intelligible, but requiring some slight adjustment in vocabulary.

  • @화이팅-t2q
    @화이팅-t2q 3 года назад +19

    It's interesting how Tamil in Sri ranka started to be striped from the north but at last it only remained in the north.

    • @blackphoenix3220
      @blackphoenix3220 3 года назад +4

      @@shambhaviarun2261 Chola conquest of Anuradhapura.

    • @blackphoenix3220
      @blackphoenix3220 3 года назад +7

      @@shambhaviarun2261 I think Vedda tribes were the first. Then a small minority of Dravidians and then Sinhalese. Maybe Sinhalese could have mixed with the Dravidians. Their language itself has Dravidian influence(like script, pronunciation, etc). But majority Tamils came during Chola conquest.

    • @sankarie3687
      @sankarie3687 2 года назад +1

      @@blackphoenix3220 Sri lankan Tamil is very Similar to Malayalam than Indian Tamil

    • @madeshshivam952
      @madeshshivam952 2 года назад +5

      @@sankarie3687 their slang is like malayalam tone.. But malayalis are also ancient tamils.. Indian tamils and srilankan tamils are tamils ok

    • @KRISHNAPRASATHSPHD
      @KRISHNAPRASATHSPHD 2 года назад +1

      Indi European Sinhalese settled in srilanka in 6th century. No doubt in that. But who are early migrants? Either tamils or veddas? Both tamils and vedda people are having genitical similarity with Australian aboriginals. Excavation of anuradhapura and sikiriya burials dated back to 1000 BC. These excavation are similar to artifact found in south india. It shows veddas are influenced by South Indian culture.

  • @rinkugangishetty5713
    @rinkugangishetty5713 Год назад +1

    I don't know that Telugu is the oldest dravidian languages until I see this video

  • @ahambrahmasmi2477
    @ahambrahmasmi2477 3 года назад +12

    ನಮ್ಮ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರು ನೋಡ್ತಿದ್ರೆ ಹೇಳ್ಬೇಕು ✌️😌

    • @statman-techman
      @statman-techman 3 года назад +6

      From Udupi🙏🏻🇮🇳
      Tulu guy,Tuluva.

    • @Thejas_Gatty
      @Thejas_Gatty 3 года назад +5

      @@statman-techman Tuluva here

    • @Thejas_Gatty
      @Thejas_Gatty 3 года назад +6

      Tulu is older than Kannada

    • @Thejas_Gatty
      @Thejas_Gatty 3 года назад +2

      @SIDDHAARTH MANIAN tulu is also in Kerala lol😆

    • @user-io7sh7nx7c
      @user-io7sh7nx7c 3 года назад +6

      @@Thejas_Gatty with all due respect to Tulu language, if it is older than Kannada why did Alupa dynasty use Kannada before Tulu in their inscriptions?

  • @binitime
    @binitime 3 года назад +3

    혹시 제 역사카페에서 출처를 밝히고 역사룡님의 영상들을 퍼가도 될까요?

  • @ramanajonnavithula9773
    @ramanajonnavithula9773 2 года назад +9

    దేశ భాషలందు తెలుగు లెస్స🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️

    • @prajwalkannadiga8737
      @prajwalkannadiga8737 Год назад +2

      Nan tunne lessu🤣

    • @ramanajonnavithula9773
      @ramanajonnavithula9773 Год назад

      @@prajwalkannadiga8737 parpamudu moddagudu

    • @udaykamal4621
      @udaykamal4621 Год назад +1

      but the above quote is said by the great TULU king , the andhra bhoja “ SRI KRISHNA DEVARAYA”. 😂😂😂

  • @yujiang6004
    @yujiang6004 3 года назад +5

    Awesome video about south indian languages. You can make more videos about languages in south asia and southeast asia like austroasiatic, tibeto-burman, austronesian and indo-aryan.

  • @slyninja4444
    @slyninja4444 3 года назад +9

    Funny how Tamil was originally being displaced in northern Sri Lanka, and later it was displaced in the south.

    • @vanisridhar5509
      @vanisridhar5509 Год назад +1

      Yes, because of mixing. So only we indians stopped marriage with other communities.

    • @lokiloki-tt8hl
      @lokiloki-tt8hl 4 месяца назад +1

      Well cuz that's not how it happend.. because acording written sources it is said that there was only tribal people on the island.. tamils were mentioned as damedas in the same texts but as a separate outsiders

  • @sk-un6vw
    @sk-un6vw 6 месяцев назад +2

    When you realise Tulu is Older than Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam 😂😂😂

  • @pavanusannavaruban6662
    @pavanusannavaruban6662 3 года назад +6

    What is the name of first music? It sounds beautiful.

    • @ajayv2632
      @ajayv2632 3 года назад +5

      It's Karnataka shastriya Sangita music.

    • @hunter-z4547
      @hunter-z4547 3 года назад +5

      @@ajayv2632
      It's name was Carnatic music , but it has no business to do with people of Karnataka , nor kannadiga isn't founder of it .
      But some how it got name as Carnatic music , It must be a historical error .

    • @ajayv2632
      @ajayv2632 3 года назад +3

      @@hunter-z4547 Karnataka shastriya Sangita pitamaha is puranadara dasa who is kannadigas and Karnataka shastriya Sangita got its name because it was introduced during vijaynagar empire which was also called karnata samrajya it is founded and patronised by kannadigas later spread to south even today first lesson are taught in Kannada.

    • @hunter-z4547
      @hunter-z4547 3 года назад +2

      @@ajayv2632 .
      Vijaya Nagara empire is telugu empire , every pallayas under Vijayanagara empire was ruled by telugu people alone . Karnataka doesn't have any empires and Kingdoms . Native Karnataka's kings were from small provinces and Princely State .

    • @kamleshl3515
      @kamleshl3515 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/0Fszir7b0FU/видео.html

  • @mhdfrb9971
    @mhdfrb9971 3 года назад +18

    There's a lot of languages older than Tamil

    • @இளஞ்சென்னி
      @இளஞ்சென்னி 3 года назад +4

      But are they living language now

    • @mhdfrb9971
      @mhdfrb9971 3 года назад +2

      @@இளஞ்சென்னி I'm not saying they're living language

    • @இளஞ்சென்னி
      @இளஞ்சென்னி 3 года назад +2

      @@mhdfrb9971 that's the case with Tamil...Tamil is not the oldest language...But it is one of the oldest living language which is continuously spoken by ppl...And it is the oldest living language of Indian subcontinent

    • @mhdfrb9971
      @mhdfrb9971 3 года назад +2

      @@இளஞ்சென்னி the oldest living language is khoisan language

    • @இளஞ்சென்னி
      @இளஞ்சென்னி 3 года назад +2

      @@mhdfrb9971 oh really how do you proof that...

  • @Imammahditelugusoldier
    @Imammahditelugusoldier 2 года назад +3

    మనవాండ్లైనా ఇ
    గొండి , కోయ, తెలుగు, ముూరియ, బారియ, పెంగొ, మండా, కుయ్, కువీ, కొలామి ఇంకొక ೧౦౦౦౦ యేండ్ల ఏగాలిఁ.....

    • @Aratiii06
      @Aratiii06 7 месяцев назад

      Only another 1000 years?

  • @king_halcyon
    @king_halcyon 2 года назад +2

    Haplogroup H, commonly found in Dravidian speakers, is also found in Bengal, including Bangladesh. So the language must have been widespread there, along with Austroasiatic (in the eastern parts of the country of Bangladesh) and languages related to Vedda. The vid's wrong again.

    • @ralph6417
      @ralph6417 2 года назад +2

      You are wrong.
      Ydna H is not Dravidian but it's an AASI lineage. Ydna L and R2 is the actual Proto Dravidian/Indus Ydna.

    • @gouthamkrishnan6718
      @gouthamkrishnan6718 8 месяцев назад +1

      Dravidians have mostly haplogroups L,H,R2 and J.We in Kerala mostly have y dna L haplogroup.H haplogroup is highest among tamils,marathis and bangladeshis.R2 is highest among Telugus

  • @pvvttt8156
    @pvvttt8156 2 года назад +11

    I am sorry to say but the Dravidian language speakers of Assam were tea labourers brought by British people. These people are not indigenous to Assam. Bodo-Garo and Khasic-Palaungic are the oldest language families of Assam.

    • @ralph6417
      @ralph6417 2 года назад +7

      They doesn't look Dravidian at all.
      More like Austro-Asiatic tribals like Santhalis and Mundas.

    • @pvvttt8156
      @pvvttt8156 2 года назад +3

      @@ralph6417 still not indigenous

    • @ralph6417
      @ralph6417 2 года назад +7

      @@pvvttt8156
      Sino Tibetans are recent arrivals too.
      They're migrated from South China to Northeast.

    • @pvvttt8156
      @pvvttt8156 2 года назад +4

      @@ralph6417 If 4000-5000 years old are recent then yes. You don't need to give me a lecture on how we are not indigenous to our land and also nothing is set in stone, No one exactly knows the dates of arrival. Those all are just speculations. And also funfact: Many of our tribes have actually story about migration but those migrations happened in the Brahmaputra valley itself, Brahmaputra river was so huge that crossing it was a tale worth remembering for people of those times. No matter how much you say, Bodo-Kacharis are still thought to be Assam's oldest inhabitants. Khasis are older than them tho according to modern scholarship but DNA results show, most Bodo-Kacharis had Khasi ancestors.

    • @ralph6417
      @ralph6417 2 года назад

      @@pvvttt8156
      Lol, why so much triggered?
      Everyone are f*ckin migrants here at some point.
      And the original inhabitants of South Asia are South Asian Hunter gatherer's.
      Mainlanders ( both North and South Indians ) heavily mixed with Iranian and Central Asian migrants.
      Northeast Indians heavily mixed with Southeast Asian and Yellow River farmers. But everyone has South Hunter gatherers ancestry in different proportion.
      You don't need to lecture about history to me. And y'all literally discriminating minorities and then complain about how Mainlanders treat y'all..stop being hypocrite.

  • @narekmargaryan4429
    @narekmargaryan4429 3 года назад +2

    Nice video channel.Can you do videos on european and west asian history?

  • @kewaso_5313
    @kewaso_5313 3 года назад +13

    Many believe Sumerian and Elamite may be distant relatives to Dravidian

    • @SKITNICA95
      @SKITNICA95 3 года назад +12

      probably connected with Harappan languages

    • @itsjohnnyfox
      @itsjohnnyfox 3 года назад +1

      and San escobar

    • @hareneishnadhar
      @hareneishnadhar 2 года назад +1

      Most likely to be true. Heard the Sumerians were called "black headed people" and many of their original isolated language shares many ancient Tamil words and grammar.

    • @vanisridhar5509
      @vanisridhar5509 Год назад +1

      @@hareneishnadhar But we are not black headed. 🤨

  • @Gsjidxhj
    @Gsjidxhj 3 года назад +5

    Tamil = Telugu = malyalam = Kannada / Same dravidian languages

  • @Gijeong_tteok
    @Gijeong_tteok 3 года назад +6

    수고하셨습니다!
    와 영상 초반부에 갈라지는 연출...와...

  • @snigdha8404
    @snigdha8404 3 года назад +10

    So Bengalis spoke Dravidian and Austroasiatic for that long since their arrival to the delta in 700 BC, absolutely impossible!

    • @destyon9966
      @destyon9966 3 года назад +17

      Bruh back then they weren’t Bengalis lmao

    • @destyon9966
      @destyon9966 3 года назад

      @Aesthetic Aura first of all Bengalis aren’t iranic and they are Indic like other indo-aryans and have u not heard of invasions u fob also the Aryans came and invaded and changed the linguistics in South Asia

    • @destyon9966
      @destyon9966 3 года назад +3

      @Aesthetic Aura well no lmao they spoke a Dravidian language like other North Indian groups before the Aryans invaded

    • @destyon9966
      @destyon9966 3 года назад +1

      @Aesthetic Aura lmao literally all south Asian ethnicities don’t have majority aryan lmao

    • @destyon9966
      @destyon9966 3 года назад +2

      @Aesthetic Aura Bengalis are like
      45-50% Early Farmers from fertile crescent(Possibly from Iranian plateau and came to Bengal through Indo Aryan language speaking settlers).
      18-23% South Asian Hunter-gatherer.(Ancient DNA of these Hunter-Gatherer are yet to be discover but Austroasiatic tribes and Southern Indian tribes are a good proxy, Bengalis got this component from both Indo Aryan language speaking settlers and Austroasiatic tribals).
      15% Proto Indo European(Related to Sintashta and Andronovo culture and came to Bengal through Indo Aryan language speaking settlers).
      12-15% East Asian
      5-6% South-East Asian(Bengalis got it from Austroasiatic tribals).
      5-6% North-East Asian(Tibeto Burmese).
      2-3% Siberian(Came to Bengal through Indo Aryan language speaking settlers but also from North-East Asian).

  • @jokemon9547
    @jokemon9547 3 года назад +1

    History of the Uralic languages when?

  • @Rahul-ni5re
    @Rahul-ni5re 3 года назад +11

    Carnatic ( southern indian ) music in the background 😘😍

    • @Rahul-ni5re
      @Rahul-ni5re 3 года назад

      @kiran m agreed❤️... It's just language modification..we can't defy it. .as u say I'll call it Karnataka sangitham as it's called in Telugu. 👍

    • @Rahul-ni5re
      @Rahul-ni5re 3 года назад +3

      @kiran m Haa👍 proud Vijayanagara Saamrajyam

    • @linguisticschp2947
      @linguisticschp2947 3 года назад

      @kiran mand Tamil music is the mother of karnatic music

    • @linguisticschp2947
      @linguisticschp2947 3 года назад

      @kiran m hello 🤡🤡,
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnatic_music
      . Carnatic music is based as it is today on musical concepts (including swara, raga, and tala) that were described in detail in several ancient works, particularly the Bharata's Natya Shastra and Silappadhikaram by Ilango Adigal.[14...
      You can see Carnatic music in silapadhikaram poets &bharata'natya shastra .a way before than the origins of kannadigas and Karnataka....
      Then how it would be only yours !!!😂 Such a 🦀

    • @linguisticschp2947
      @linguisticschp2947 3 года назад

      @kiran m
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Tamil_Nadu
      ..Pann, which is the classical music form of Southern India, has a long history in Tamil Nadu. Later the name was mistakenly changed as Carnatic music. Even today Pannisai is sung in temple festivals in Tamil Nadu ......
      Pann isai = Tamil isai(music) = Today Carnatic music 😂

  • @AbhilashE02
    @AbhilashE02 2 года назад

    good music choice , for the video it is related

  • @SamTheMan12
    @SamTheMan12 3 года назад +3

    History of Russian language next please

  • @leroyurocyon
    @leroyurocyon 8 месяцев назад +1

    தென்னிந்திய மொழிகள்
    దక్షిణ భారత భాషలు
    ದಕ್ಷಿಣ ಭಾರತದ ಭಾಷೆಗಳು

  • @blackpearl5834
    @blackpearl5834 3 года назад +24

    Tamil is the oldest among the Dravidian languages 🌱✨🔥.....
    The indus script and Tamil-brahmi script founded in ivc and keeladi were same 🙂.

    • @NJR-gt8xi
      @NJR-gt8xi 3 года назад +11

      Love Tamil from Kerala❤

    • @LOL-cv9it
      @LOL-cv9it 3 года назад +13

      Not same but shares similarities,Tamil is the oldest ‘recorded’ language amount Dravidian languages.

    • @blackpearl5834
      @blackpearl5834 3 года назад +2

      @@NJR-gt8xi ⚔️❤️

    • @TamilEelam1
      @TamilEelam1 3 года назад +5

      @@LOL-cv9it Which means Tamil is the oldest Dravidian language, if not the oldest in the world.

    • @BTCE-HariprasathA
      @BTCE-HariprasathA 3 года назад

      @@TamilEelam1 it's oldest in world 🙄....rather than tamil bothing languages have it😂

  • @ayzmalo5553
    @ayzmalo5553 Год назад

    proto dravidian is far older than that and started in india, not the indus valley. the indus valley spoke northeast caucasian languages related to elamite

  • @didiermartinezzz4204
    @didiermartinezzz4204 3 года назад +4

    Uto-aztecan languages next PLZ

  • @ganjisuresh3303
    @ganjisuresh3303 4 месяца назад

    The subtitles are not visible and the legend displayed on right side if slides are not at all visible. Bad video as you can not see and read the descriptions and texts. Please repost video again with prioer display of texts.

  • @حيثلاانت
    @حيثلاانت 3 года назад +7

    The indo_iranian form Europe Will not be the real indian subcontinent residents
    The real is the dravidian the aborginal

    • @blackphoenix3220
      @blackphoenix3220 3 года назад +1

      Andamanese are real Indians.

    • @gazibizi9504
      @gazibizi9504 3 года назад +2

      Even Dravidian are not real Indians. They migrated too.

    • @swan8939
      @swan8939 3 года назад +1

      @@blackphoenix3220 Andamanese were aborginal

    • @Nishantpatale9423
      @Nishantpatale9423 3 года назад

      Writing in Arabic name talking about india 👍👍lol

    • @blyat5352
      @blyat5352 3 года назад

      Stepped blood in Indian is extremely low.

  • @baburaothedog
    @baburaothedog 3 года назад +7

    Interesting. Appreciate your hard work in making this video.
    1:32
    Eastward expansion of proto-Northern Dravidian must have stopped by then. There was never any Dravidian speaking community in the Himalayan foothills near Brahmaputra river. Instead, that region was home to Tibeto-Burman and Mon-Khmer speaking people.
    Everything about this video is okay except for the misrepresentation of that region.
    I'm a Tibeto-Burman speaking indigenous person from the foothills of eastern Himalayan region near Brahmaputra River.

    • @rajjat4308
      @rajjat4308 3 года назад +3

      There are kaibarata tribe in Assam who are probably of Dravidian origin davaka an ancient pepole in Assam are of Dravidian origin

    • @baburaothedog
      @baburaothedog 3 года назад +1

      @@rajjat4308
      If they are Dravidian, then should be as recent as Indo-Aryan caste groups who came to Assam some centuries ago.

    • @rajjat4308
      @rajjat4308 3 года назад +1

      @@baburaothedog nope kaibartas are mentioned in kamrupan texts

    • @rajjat4308
      @rajjat4308 3 года назад

      @@baburaothedog Keot pepole to be more accurate

    • @rajjat4308
      @rajjat4308 3 года назад

      @@baburaothedog Indo Aryans are in Assam since 550 BCE kamrupa kingdom had a Indo Aryan ruling class Early Assamess developed from Sanskrit and kamprupi prakrit in 700 Ad most Assamess are hybrid of Indo Aryan (paternal lineage R1a)tibeto Burman (paternal lineage O1) (austroasitic (khasi)(paternal lineage o1) Tai kadai (Paternal lineage k2) Dravidian (H) Indus Vally (p lineage L)

  • @blackpearl5834
    @blackpearl5834 3 года назад +4

    3:24
    U are wrong bro , .
    Tamil region or ( wiki ancient Tamilakkam 300BC ) covers most of South india 🙂...
    I think u may be confused with present political map of India .😂

    • @bhanupratap1063
      @bhanupratap1063 3 года назад +5

      Only Tamil-Nadu and Kerala Spoke Tamil.

    • @swift14727
      @swift14727 3 года назад +3

      @@bhanupratap1063 No, most of south India spoke Tamil only and other languages cropped up latter on.

    • @user-ym6po6lh5t
      @user-ym6po6lh5t 3 года назад +3

      @@swift14727 😂🤣 what most Tamil only limited to tamil nadu

    • @udaykamal4621
      @udaykamal4621 Год назад +2

      andhra satavahanas were speaking tamil according to idiotic tamils😂😂😂😂

    • @bhanupratap1063
      @bhanupratap1063 Год назад +1

      @@udaykamal4621 Satavahanas were Brahmins their mothertongue was most probably Sanskrit but court language was Prakrit and Telugu.

  • @alzicario3466
    @alzicario3466 2 года назад +3

    Indus Valley language is still undeciphered so no it’s not Dravidian. Nor were the Indus people Dravidian since Sindhis of Pakistan have the most Indus dna

    • @ralph6417
      @ralph6417 2 года назад +5

      Lol. Sindhis also have lot of Steppe ancestry which is lack among Indus people's. Stop your claiming process.
      Dravidians are basically mixed between Iran_N + AASI just exactly like the Indus people's.

    • @alzicario3466
      @alzicario3466 2 года назад +2

      @@ralph6417 😂😂 more than 50% of Sindhi dna is comprised of Neolithic Iranian while the highest in dravidians goes to 20-30. Sindhis balochis and Brahui have the highest percentages which makes sense since that is where the Indus people lived. Stop trying to steal history and culture

    • @ralph6417
      @ralph6417 2 года назад +3

      @@alzicario3466
      No one is talking about Iran_N here.
      I'm talking about IVC cline.
      Sindhis are genetically not even closely related to IVC because they're admixed with Steppe.
      Dravidians are basically IVC + extra AASI.
      Completely lack f*ilthy Steppe ancestry 🥲

    • @ralph6417
      @ralph6417 2 года назад

      @@alzicario3466
      Steal your culture ??
      Y'all just following Semitic culture and speak the language originated near Russia. So who is the actual stealer? 😂 LoL 😆

    • @ralph6417
      @ralph6417 2 года назад

      @@alzicario3466
      Brahui speak Dravidian language BTW 😂

  • @lexi55410
    @lexi55410 3 года назад +16

    modern Indians have a mixture of Dravidian ancestry in them

    • @girijayandhanr7757
      @girijayandhanr7757 3 года назад +2

      @Unknown Sapien ethno linguistic

    • @Kong-se5ht
      @Kong-se5ht 3 года назад +5

      @Unknown Sapien Gonds and Tamils are not that genetically dissimilar, they have similar AASI/Iranian related hunter gatherer ancestry proportions. Brahui have much lower AASI ancestry, and much higher Iranian related hunter gatherer ancestry.

    • @Kong-se5ht
      @Kong-se5ht 3 года назад +3

      @Unknown Sapien My bad, i confused Bhils with Gonds, yes the Gonds have the east asian/munda mix which separates them from average Tamils

    • @мувн-ш4ы
      @мувн-ш4ы 3 года назад +3

      Haryanvis do not. Neither do Punjabis. very bold claim you have made here.

    • @мувн-ш4ы
      @мувн-ш4ы 3 года назад +2

      @Unknown Sapien yes jatts and gurjars are ethnically very different from native punjabi and haryanvi groups. khatris are also native.

  • @jerseyneil1
    @jerseyneil1 4 месяца назад

    My parents are from Kerala, although I have lived in the USA for over 50 years. A few years back, I took two different DNA tests and both confirm that I am 98% Dravidian of the subgroup Malayali. The remaining 2% was unknown east asian origins. Some Indians always speculate that they are ethnically mixed from other ethnic groups through foreign invasions, including Iranian, Greek, Syrian, etc. but in my case that was not the case.

    • @MuhammadFazil-xs9gg
      @MuhammadFazil-xs9gg 3 месяца назад

      The 23andme showing your ancestry from 200 years ago

    • @MuhammadFazil-xs9gg
      @MuhammadFazil-xs9gg 3 месяца назад

      Malayali subgroup based on Kerala Christian.
      Other malayali are categorised as southern south asian.

    • @jerseyneil1
      @jerseyneil1 3 месяца назад

      @@MuhammadFazil-xs9gg I used a test from 23andme and from Ancestry. Same results.

    • @MuhammadFazil-xs9gg
      @MuhammadFazil-xs9gg 3 месяца назад

      @@jerseyneil1 upload your dna data on illustrative dna. it give ancient dna samples that genetically resemble you the most

  • @linguisticschp2947
    @linguisticschp2947 3 года назад +25

    Yes , proto Dravidian Tamil is distinct from Today's Tamil ..but the speakers were Same ... Also Tamil have most of proto Dravidian words , we can reconstruct proto Dravidian only with Tamil ... Inscriptions founded in ivc and keeladi , adichanallur (in Tamilakkam)was exactly the same ..

    • @VolcardoReviewer
      @VolcardoReviewer 3 года назад +13

      Proto Dravidian is just bullshit terminology. Is Ancient Chinese the same as modern Chinese? Of course not. But it's Chinese nonetheless. Same principle here with "Proto-Dravidian". It's just political to not call it Tamil.

    • @VolcardoReviewer
      @VolcardoReviewer 3 года назад +8

      @@gazibizi9504 "whatever oldest ancestor", lol friend, Tamil is the closest to this ancestor. Same way how Modern Chinese is closest to Ancient Chinese. You see evidence of this everywhere. For example in each of the dravidian languages other than tamil (So malayalam, Telugu, Kannada). The word for tree is different but the words used in those three languages are all used to describe various aspects of a tree in Tamil (branch, twig, stem, etc). Which indicates tamil is the root for all three languages (this is fact not worth debating). Even a word like "Thiru" which is only used in Tamil and Proto Dravidian is example of this, in the other dravidian languages the word "Sree/Sri" has replaced "Thiru". Another word Desam is used predominantly on other dravidian languages while Tamil is the only language other than Proto Dravidian that uses the word NADU.

    • @VolcardoReviewer
      @VolcardoReviewer 3 года назад +7

      @@gazibizi9504 It's only called proto dravidian instead of proto tamil (like it used to be called) BECAUSE of the political nature of the term. Tamil is the oldest of the language group and so is the stem to all Dravidian languages. When you take away the sanskrit influence of most of these dravidian languages you get a vague incomplete language (meanwhile we have tamil terms for EVERY single sanskrit influenced term in the language group, you can't do that with other languages in the south). Also Cantonese was created in 220 AD. It is the closest language to Ancient Chinese. Same relationship as Tamil and Proto Dravidian.

    • @VolcardoReviewer
      @VolcardoReviewer 3 года назад +5

      @@gazibizi9504 No, the example would be if your great great grandfather was more closely related to his father (great great great grandfather) than say your grandfather is to that great great great grandfather. Tamil is 2500 years old. It's absolutely more closely related to proto Dravidian than say Telugu or Kannada.

    • @VolcardoReviewer
      @VolcardoReviewer 3 года назад +6

      @@gazibizi9504 I don't mind the term. But it's really proto tamil. That's what they used to call it, and that's what it is. Tamil is the oldest of the group and so tamil is the byproduct of Proto Tamil aka all Dravidian languages. But we call is Proto Dravidian for political reasons.

  • @sentamizh3133
    @sentamizh3133 Год назад +2

    This video is misleading people there is no language like dravida they calling proto Tamil only as Dravida ....beware my dear Indian bro n sis

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 Год назад +1

      This video is making is fool. It is just proto kannada. No proto Dravidian, no proto Tamil and nonsense

    • @sentamizh3133
      @sentamizh3133 Год назад

      @@ancientminds199 live in dream😂

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 Год назад +1

      @@sentamizh3133 hahaha! Normal dreams are much real than the dreams Tamils live😂😂🤣🤣

    • @sentamizh3133
      @sentamizh3133 Год назад

      @@ancientminds199 yes we dream about our future Abdul Kalam sir told us to dream 😊 hey someone in graduation day took karnataka flag with him...I like what he did...

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 3 года назад +9

    They are very similar to the Australian Aboriginal, Melanesian, And Papuan ones

    • @hui-hui9921
      @hui-hui9921 3 года назад +7

      they're not really at all

    • @gazibizi9504
      @gazibizi9504 3 года назад +2

      Nope.

    • @existensistrubczthentruscatt
      @existensistrubczthentruscatt 3 года назад

      How i say,there are figments of peoples are resides in isolated habitation,where you see the least modification of there ancestral cultures,,
      From that peoples ,you can correlate them the tribal peoples that you mentioned,,researches happening..

    • @boopeshvaishnavanaidu2993
      @boopeshvaishnavanaidu2993 2 года назад

      I respect Papuans and Aboriginals. But we are not like them and here I'm not racist, just saying the facts. All Indians are haveing maximum brown to wheatish skin tone. Including me. Because our country located in Ecuador.

    • @boopeshvaishnavanaidu2993
      @boopeshvaishnavanaidu2993 2 года назад

      We are Caucasian like Europeans, Arabs, Iranians and north Indians.

  • @antwerpant418
    @antwerpant418 3 года назад +2

    Can you make East Asian history again? New version

  • @davidschannel6418
    @davidschannel6418 3 года назад +5

    It is very cool if it was 4x. Also 2x.

  • @julianfejzo4829
    @julianfejzo4829 3 года назад +9

    Brahui likely migrated in Pakistan and Afghanistan after the 11th century AD from northern or central India, there's no evidence or mentions of the Brahui living the area before.

    • @julianfejzo4829
      @julianfejzo4829 3 года назад +2

      @Unknown Sapien Lots of Brahuis are mixed with the Balochi, which probably already had partial ancestry from the Harappans.

    • @julianfejzo4829
      @julianfejzo4829 3 года назад +1

      @Unknown Sapien Interesting, I will look into that.

    • @Kong-se5ht
      @Kong-se5ht 3 года назад +5

      @@julianfejzo4829 No the Brahui are virtually identical genetically with neighbouring baloch. Language shift occurred re: the Baloch

    • @мувн-ш4ы
      @мувн-ш4ы 3 года назад

      @@Kong-se5ht you seem to be trying to dravidian-ize certain northern ethnic groups.

    • @julianfejzo4829
      @julianfejzo4829 3 года назад

      @SIDDHAARTH MANIAN Because it's structure, origin and basic vocabulary are Dravidian, but this really doesn't proof that they always lived there.
      You can have a language living in a certain territory that dies out and centuries or millenia later you can have a relative of this now-extinct language that migrates in this region, it is possible and happened in many occasions.

  • @Sakthivel_8585
    @Sakthivel_8585 Год назад +6

    Tamils created indus valley civilization Sumerian civilization proof indus valley civilization have a jallikattu image tablate jallikattu tamils play pongal festival

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 10 месяцев назад +2

      @AndreyFir why are you replying to this clown ?😅

    • @Crxyzen1
      @Crxyzen1 4 месяца назад

      Well, Sumerian language was an isolated language. But Dravidians are still as old as Sumerians, though. The really good thing is that you guys survived aryan invasion. Many pre-IE cultures and languages were wiped out before they have been recorded

  • @Limppumies
    @Limppumies 3 года назад +2

    Awesome video! Uralic(-Yukaghir) languages next please!

  • @yasirarfat670
    @yasirarfat670 3 года назад +6

    Brauhi is one 😭😭😭😭😭 in there old enimies only one😭😭😭😭😭in there

  • @សុខចន្ទរត្តន

    Telegu area belong to kanchi who is naga blood from austroasitic why this video not see.

  • @rajmk3
    @rajmk3 2 года назад +3

    You are wrong, everything was born under the South Indian and in a Tamil!

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 Год назад +2

      No. Kannada

    • @rajmk3
      @rajmk3 Год назад

      @@ancientminds199 Proof? Kannada is also Tamil!

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 Год назад +1

      @@rajmk3 yeah. Tamil is also Kannada

    • @rajmk3
      @rajmk3 Год назад

      @@ancientminds199Oh I see.😂

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 Год назад

      @@rajmk3 yeah. You see!!😂

  • @Ida-xe8pg
    @Ida-xe8pg 3 года назад +1

    Great job man! but you shouldve made a lot more side notes in the beginning of the video since the history of the drv langs are highly debated mainly about the IVC lang and Brahui migration part (you made the comment but people may not see it)

    • @ahsanibrahim797
      @ahsanibrahim797 2 года назад

      I speak Brahui but I'm not Dravidian I'm a Baloch

    • @Ida-xe8pg
      @Ida-xe8pg 2 года назад

      @@ahsanibrahim797 do you speak brahui fluently?

    • @ahsanibrahim797
      @ahsanibrahim797 2 года назад +1

      @@Ida-xe8pg Yes I do, I'm perfect at it

  • @marshalnadar1403
    @marshalnadar1403 3 года назад +7

    Pls make a video on Cameroonian language they are quite similar to Tamil.

    • @sujeevyalla389
      @sujeevyalla389 3 года назад +1

      U mean Kushites ?? Even Japanese language has similarities with tamil

    • @ancientminds199
      @ancientminds199 Год назад +1

      Even language of dinosaurs

    • @SanjayGopi-nc9sk
      @SanjayGopi-nc9sk Год назад

      @@ancientminds199 Atoms interact in Tamil

    • @prn_97_
      @prn_97_ 5 месяцев назад

      @@SanjayGopi-nc9sk LMFAO

  • @ranjanawrozi3449
    @ranjanawrozi3449 3 года назад

    Download a video on the history of the empires and the countries of Kurdistan. We are the first nation that we have built the oldest country in the world

  • @paimontheemergencyfood
    @paimontheemergencyfood 3 года назад +6

    오 진짜 빠르시네 ㄷㄷㄷ 그와중에도 고퀄

  • @greathistorymapper
    @greathistorymapper 3 года назад +2

    근데 설명창엔 왜 맨밑에 크라이다이어족에 대한 다른 가설이 많이 있다고 써있죠 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 위에는 드라비다라고 잘써있는데

  • @alexangelo1998
    @alexangelo1998 3 года назад +4

    You didn't show Lakshadweep islands. Locals speak Dravidian languages too

    • @blackphoenix3220
      @blackphoenix3220 3 года назад

      @Unknown Sapien yes. And Minicoy speaks a dialect of Divehi.