It is mostly how telenvoelas are structured in Latin America. Rather than wait a year or two for a second season, a telenovela's is structured so that you can watch it daily and is only one season in one year. Since Violeta was so massively successful, it was stretched even thinner than most telenovelas. Trustme there is no more toxic relationships than a telenovela's main protagonists
Still crazy considering Soy Luna has the exact same amount of episodes yet manages to actually have a healthy friends to partners to friends relationship. Obviously it's not perfect, there's still enough toxicity throughout the show but they definitely improved.
I think the problem with Leon and Violetta is apparent when you realize that a large amount of his romantic gestures in the first season were motivated by jealousy. And do I even need to mention Violetta’s Bella swan-esque behavior of playing two guys who obviously love her like a video game?
@@mahatmaayayos2384 yeah, Thomas actively hit on Violetta while he was with Fran. And very surprised when she tells him "wtf, you are with my best friend!"
They’re relationship is like “god you’re both just enabling each other’s toxic habits. You’re perfect for each other, but please don’t involve anyone else in this relationship”
as an argentine who only ever watched violetta very occasionally i cannot even attempt to describe my thoughts when one day i turned on the tv and i had tini stoessel in a hot pink wig doing a horrid mexican accent on my screen
SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING A MEXICAN ACCENT??? I'm Brazilian so I watched it dubbed when I was a kid and in the dub they didn't had Roxy doing ANY ACCENT AT ALL LMAOOOOO
Lmao and when we were in middle school, one of the girls was pretending to be Leon for a show at a Christmas market (since her and the other Violetta superfan from our class were meant to sing "Voy por ti") , but since she never came to the actual show, I filled in for her with the english lyrics of the song, and everyone just thought it was a part of the show.
LMAO IF THIS AIN'T ME. My uncle's goddaughter (basically a cousin in my family) LOVED that series sm, she loved s1 the most due to Tomas but istg I felt my neurons die when she would sit down on the living room to wait for an episode and just give me summaries of what was happening (not bcs I did't want to listen to her but bcs the plot sounded like a mess). Ngl she kinda got mad at me when I started getting a little invested by making predictions and being right lol I remember I tried to make it up to her by giving her Violetta merch for Christmas. But now that we've grown a bit since then, I tease her by saying "miremos tu programa favorito" aka Violetta and she just laughs and cringes a bit, but she loves the show still. It became a comfort show in which we spend time together but she binges and I'm on my phone while laughing at the plot and both of us singing the songs. Ig the nostalgia made this mess of a show somewhat special for me, and I never even watched it in its entirety 🤣🤣🤣 oof rant over
@@Rox7ne Lmao I was just like her when the show was airing, except I'd write episode summaries on sheets and sheets of paper and then type them out during IT Class whenever we had to choose a text to format and edit. Surprisingly, my then-IT teacher allowed it and just found it hilarious.
Their relationship in a nutshell. When they’re not together, they think about each other all the time. When they’re together, they always fight and think about other people.
NO BECAUSE WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I WAS OBSESSED WITH THE SHOW AND USED TO EAY “you can tell what season it is by leon’s hair cus it gradually keeps going up”
Leonetta has go to be the most ridiculous ship ever. Also I will NEVER forgive everyone in season 2 for how they gaslighted Violetta after Diego forced himself on her. Even Fran and Cami were victim blaming her. Like what?!?!
Right!! Honestly I hated Diego and of the 3 Leon was most definitely the best choice even with their toxicity he was the most respectful and least forceful of them.
Diego always irritated me. Violetta has much more patience than me because i would have slapped him telenovelas style since long before. The constant harassment and showing up to her place unannounced and entering ???I was so done with all that. (Also sidenote, why is Violetta's home so easy to enter even at night?💀)There was always this discomfort because it's considered macho and romantic in novelas to have a persistent guy that is relentless and will kiss you (without your consent) which convinces you to be with him because ✨ sexual tension✨.
THANK YOU. I HATE Diego. And I will die on this hill. He is a creepy stalker, following her even after she got back with Leon, following her to her house without her knowing, coming to her house constantly after she told him to stop, filming their rehearsal to make it seem like they are kissing, then lying to Leon about them actually kissing, and then lying to Violetta about lying to Leon.
13:29 this comment made me laugh out loud. not only its common for those two but like violetta in general. german is a MILLIONAIRE but his house has the worst security ever i swear at least once in ten episodes a plot point happens because someone broke into her house 😭
I will always have a soft spot for Leonetta for as long as I live. I excuse all the break ups and arguing for how they would write a telenovela back then, and they really couldn't accept the main couple being together for a whole season. I really wish that Leon and Violetta would have been together for all of season 3 and they focused on a different kind of drama, but they were the favorite kind to write for, so what could I expect. Violetta was my first introduction to Telenovela's and so they will always be beloved to me
This show reminded me that no matter what goes on in life… Leon’s hair will get higher and higher each season. Like seriously his hair was higher than my hope for their relationship at times 😂
he was not toxic. Violetta CONSTANTLY lied to him about liking other guys, they went through the same things with Toma. It's understandable that he would have doubts. He never got seriously angry with her even though he had EVERY reason to be angry with her.
@@shrekism …no it really doesn’t lol. Would you rather he gets mad at her, goes off on her, call her evil, and then side with the person trying to kick her out…because that’s what Toma did. Saying he knows she’ll end up with him, is not toxic at all, he was being confident. It’s like going into a game and to make yourself confident you say “I’m going to win”….that doesn’t make you toxic.
@shrekism oh come on, it's a teen drama This is exactly what characters like Leon are supposed to say, this makes them sound cool and appealing They aren't trying to make him a low-key Frolo for God's sake Also, Violetta pisses me off No way in hell that character should be a titular one
^^^ This!! Thank you!!! As a feminist, I can confirm that I do *not* stand for all of the horrible and toxic things Violetta did to her boyfriend Honestly unacceptable BTW, I know it doesn't have anything to do with feminism, but some people think feminists like women over men and that is not true... We fight for women's and people who identify as females' (but maybe don't use the term "woman") rights, but we don't stand for toxicity in any relationship caused by either side of said relationship...
I didn't know Americans watched Violetta! I'm from latin america and Violetta was EVERYWHERE, I remember hating it as a child because you couldn't scape from it, but regardless, the songs are a bop. It's so bizarre to hear it in English
violetta was dubbed into English but for some reason never came to USA or Canada (only the uk) back in 2013 (I think, it was around then) but ever since Disney plus launched , it’s been accessible here… that’s how I found it (although Caitlin found it much earlier somehow!)
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Fun fact: The actor who plays Tomás appeared shortly after in a Colombian telenovela called "La Pola", where he played the role of the protagonist's love interest when they were both younger. La Pola is a telenovela that tells the story of one of the women who helped in the independence of Colombia. It has a couple of things that are not so faithful to historical facts but it's quite good.
Maybe this is completely off-topic, but I gotta say that Leon's hair in season 2 is _such_ an improvement over his hair in season 1. I dunno why, but season 1's type of hairstyle, mostly common in the 2000s I think, gives guys such an egg-shaped head shape, and I've never liked it. (Yes, I see the irony given that my username contains "egghead." I swear that wasn't on purpose. xD) Edit: I think "Roxy" really was the worst part about the show as a whole, oof.
omg this is a mood I always say s1 Leon was Troy from high school musical, s2 was improvement of the year, and s3 was the hair he made fun of Fede for having back in s1 lol
@@ltteoSLlover Yes, exactly! And his season 3 hair is the funniest to me because sometimes I can see it working and other times it's just too much, lol.
Growing up, this show had me in a chokehold. Tuning in every single weekday to watch their chaotic love. I loved it growing up, and started off team Tomás but Leónetta won me over. I watched it again as an adult, and could only reach until season 2. I think now that I’m older and more aware of toxic relationships and no longer romanticize toxicity, I found their whole makeup-breakup storyline so tiring. Still love them together tho, but yohhhh what a hectic watch😭
I can’t believe you actually did this for a telenovela, I can’t imagine the time this took. I think I’m of the somewhat unpopular opinion that I actually like Leon a lot, he’s my favorite character from the show. I think it’s the telenovela setting because I would hate him in real life. But after spending some time with his character, I found him really entertaining and funny, especially by season 2. It also helped that he was my favorite male singer on the show, that boy can saaaanng. And I love detective Leon, it’s so random but makes so much sense. I even came to like how he was so angry all the time, because it was so funny to see him be pissed and petty over the smallest things and make little jabs. It really emphasized the lion in Leon, if you know what I mean. He was very much a no nonsense character, for everything except anything involving Violetta at least. Although I do agree, it becomes frustrating over time. But honestly if I had to deal with all the bs that was dumped on to him through out the show, I would be pissed all the time too. At least you could see that he was somewhat self aware and made an effort to change some of his behaviors as the show went on, the telenovela lords couldn’t let him have too much character development though. His relationship with Violetta was definitely a whole toxic mess, and Violetta was honestly the worst. He was obviously the second choice in season 1. But at their best, they were really cute. I loved their hugs, all of their love duets were beautiful, their shared dreams were cute, and their voices complemented each other the best in the show imo. Them singing together was definitely one of the highlights of their relationship. Sadly I spoiled that Podemos duet for myself, but it actually convinced me to not drop the show because I liked that scene so much and I wanted to watch the show until I could see it in context. I even liked it when they bickered in less serious situations, I thought they were funny. But the best parts of the relationship, and the best parts of Leon, are definitely shown when Leon comforts Violetta whenever something really serious happens in her life. It shows how much of an anchor he actually is in Violetta‘s life no matter what the situation is with their relationship and he’s always so calm and supportive when stuff like that happens, it makes you forget that he’s pretty awful sometimes. At this point, I think they’re meant to be together because I don’t know how anyone else could put up with all their shenanigans and still be able to come around and be supportive at the right moments. This ship truly took „underneath it all“ to another level, it’s almost poetic actually.
Leon in the movie TINI is the one who has had the most evolution. he didn't fight with the Italian. He didn't even fight with Violetta for believing in fake news and not going to talk to him in a mature way
oh my god thissss!!! i find león's arc very compelling and he genuinely becomes one of the most rational and grounded characters in the show; but he's also *realistic* he doesn't stop being a little bitch when he needs to be, and it works - he talks andrés down a lot, and after his arc in season 1 has so much respect for him and their friendship (the funeral for the stuffed sheep!!!), but also knows where to draw the line. Violetta is a chaotic character, that's absolutely the point; i think León is genuinely the only person that can simultaneously match her energy when he needs to, and also be the voice of reason. My favourite complaint about León is that he's toxic because he's jealous 100% of the time - mostly because EVERY TIME he's been wary of a guy it's been for a very good reason. It's not that the guys are *just* interested in Violetta, it's that they have a legitimate agenda for *splitting them up*, which is very different. Yeah this ship is going to be toxic, hello, it's a telenovela where the other main couple is a man and his dead wife's half-sister. But to me leonetta have never been toxic in a way that feels unsalvageable; these two reach a point where there really is nobody else for the other person.
To me Leon is super entertaining to watch Pardon me, but he's the Adrian 1.0 (Both are hot shit, both have a goofy sidekick, both hopeless romantics, talented and have kind of volatile character. He's toxic by real life standards but he's still the highlight of the show. Reasonable (as one can be in this show), kinda having the fae child energy (he is PETTY) and balanced enough to to feel like a cardboard cutout
I would love a video on Angie and German or a video of all the other ships like Nati and Maxi (one of my all time favs),ludmi and fede, Camilla and broduey and fran and diego like theres so many ship I can sit and watch them all day long.
Omg Angie and German were a whole mess. Their first kiss was cute, but Angie being his dead wife‘s sister always weirded me out a bit. And how does a man nearly walk down the aisle three times, with three different women, in the span of like three years??? And Angie was there the whole time just watching??
@@michalinadurzynska6868 I feel like German and Angie are the one couple EVERYONE agrees should never have happened. Like I've never seen a single soul saying they actually like German and Angie together 💀
@@anafolie471 She knew what kind of a toxic father he was, exploding over literally nothing and causing scenes in public, yet she still ended up with him in the series finale.
Omg Nati and Maxi!!!! No one talks about them and Nati was my favourite character even before she separated from Ludmilla and actually started having screen-time lol
these shows (violetta, soy luna, bia) are telenovelas aimed at kids… they share a lot of common tropes just toned down A LOT (obviously) but they seriously are exhausting
I had really forgotten how confused Violetta was...i didn't remember all the indecision, hurting Leon and the emotional infidelity. I also had not understood that what Diego did to her was wrong... You've made me realise so many things, and this video was so fun to watch!! You could have chosen a different sponsor though. I hope you do better im the future
i watched violetta as a kid and this video definitely reminded me of how crazy some of the plotpoints were, and also how normalized their jealousy and lack of communication was. it definitely shaped the way i viewed relationships at that age (unfortunately). i remember how infuriating the roxy arc was and how much i hated gery (can't remember exactly what she did but i do remember being furious with her shenanigans). i also remember loving fran and diego!! i'd love to hear your thoughts on them too. their story was definitely shorter than leonetta, but still great (and possibly less toxic??). also francesca's song in s3 was such a banger anyway great video!! thank u!
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This is like a walk down memory lane and I can't believe how dramatic their entire relationship is. I'd love it if you could cover Ludmilla and Federico's relationship! ❤ They were my favs!
I think the reason why they're not " toxic" it's their friendship. When Vilu need the most a friend, Leon was there. Especially at the time she found out about Diego's lie, or her father issues, insecure problems... Leon could understand when she need support, not love. Something that Diego couldn't. And, yes, Tomas was a great guy. But i think he never helped Violetta grow as person. It's always " you only can sing with me, or we're destiny be together." He would be a great boyfriend to her, but a great friend. ( They're friends for like, four chapters dude lol) Leon could understand Vilu wishes and time to process, maybe that's why she was more in love with him. Her most desire on the series, it's wanted time and respect to her decions since her father never give that to her.
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As an Argentinian I am glad that rhe original audio was kept, it allowed me to feel nostalgic watching the clips after sooooo many years. I remeber thinking that Leon was uepr toxic even being 12 at the time, I was far more invested in the aunt's storyline 😂
Agree 100%. As a kid, I was a Tomaletta fan. The fact that they never got official infuriated me. As an adult, I still wish they actually dated because they had natural chemistry but Leon and Ludmila kept sabotaging them and couldn’t leave them alone.
I never really liked Thomas not because there was anything wrong with him or anything, i just thought he was annoyingly nice and wasnt as cute in my eyes lollll. even when Leon was with Ludmilla being a little shit... i always rooted for Leonatta, i honeastly don't know what that says about my 12 year old self😭😭🤣🤣
@@5hiningflowerThat makes sense. As a fan of this type of series, I know that normally there is always like a "magical and romantic" scene of the protagonists meeting their love interest, like time stops for them, they look at each other completly mesmerize lol (just like Violetta meeting Tomas). That type of scene is always like a declaration of the plot that they will be the official romantic partner and endgame. Even if there is a love triangle. Violetta was the only exception for this.
this is like a fraction of how i feel about leonetta as a couple - but i really enjoy león's arc in s1. I *love* that he gets a good taste of his own medicine in violetta consistently coming back to tomás - his manipulation tactics weren't cool early on in the show, and the show punishes him for that, and by the end of s1 that boy is *tired*, but his dynamics with other characters growing and his actual foundation as a source of comfort for violetta is wonderful to see imo; perhaps when juxtaposed with tomás, who i would argue remains stagnant throughout, he feels much more compelling. Especially given Violetta's development in her confidence and musical ability over season 1, these two feel like they've sort of grown up together a little? These two are messy as hell together, but this is *so* a telenovela with 240 episodes and a barely canon movie - the messiness, pettiness, and ridiculousness (mutual song writing dreams??) essentially seals them as people who, like you said, could only end up with each other.
Yeah, Leon’s character arc it’s so good. From popular guy who hates nerds like Francheska or Camilla he become a good guy who understand other people and talk with them on the same level. Tomas… he is just boring IMO. When Leon had his character development Tomas stands in the trope of “cute romantic boy with a guitar”
The thing that sours this thing for me a bit, is the age gap between the actors. Martina Stossel was 15 and Jorge Blanco was 21. So for a good portion of the series, it was an adult kissing and cuddling and all that intimate stuff with a minor. I don't really know who made this casting choice. I mean, either have both be played by teenagers or by adults.
I used to watch Violetta during first grade. I was OBSESSED to the point I wanted a Violetta schoolbag and cried to my parents about it. A little while later I was banned by my father because there was too much romance. As an innocent little kid, I was horrified that if I was caught watching any episode, I would end up in trouble, so I never did catch up after season 2. This video gave me WHIPLASH lmao
I actually had a violetta backpack in fourth grade along other merch, i had the diary, the cd, a notebook and pen that played a music, stickers i loved this show ahah
I love Leonetta a lot. Their drama never annoyed me tbh, it was always entertaining and had good pay-off. Like...I think Lutteo for example is so much worse and really annoying, but I know you love them 😄
yeah good point and one thing that always bothered me with lutteo thing is the obvious real life age difference , all because the actor was in a well known show before; with these two it was not that obvious given tini is tall , compared to carol sevilla;
@caitlinmckillop I love this video, you highlighted so many toxic traits. Would you mind making a video of Federmila from Violetta, love your content.
Leonetta is pretty much this: 1. They get together. 2. They fight for the duration they are together. 3. They break up. 4. They spend the rest of the season basically acting like they are dating but the show doesn’t let them officially be together otherwise there basically is no plot. 5. (Addendum to 4) debate getting back together but one person says no because we still got 20+ episodes to go. 4. They get back together for 5 seconds and then the season is over!!! Great story writers 👏👏👏
One thing I loved about Violetta is that while the acting was questionable most of the time, vilu and leon scenes always felt so real! Especially when they would fight (which happens a lot lol) I always thought the things they said to eachother, their body language and how they looked at each other felt so much like a real couple.
Agree my friend, at list the couple changes every season makes so much better in my opinion with this go and then don´t and go and no and go like Violet xD
@@Luliana777 i know that it exist in a website called ‘tvi player’ but not sure if there are subtitles or something like that,, it’s the website of the official Portuguese channel so I also don’t know if it is available in foreign countries
I did not like them in season 1 as a couple. Leon knew very well that she didn’t like him in a romantic way and be forced his way into her. Tomas and Violetta clearly were meant to be but Leon couldn’t leave well enough alone. Season 2, I think Leon improved a whole lot more and I shipped them from there.
When I was younger, I used to watch episodes of Violetta on RUclips and it had the English subtitles I think since the introduction of Disney+ I could not find it on RUclips at all anymore
1:24:48 This is such a memorable and touching moment! Every time gives goosebumps when León, as a real lover, saves Violetta and sings a very beautiful song with her! I'll never forget it! ❤❤❤
Saw the thumbnail, and I have to drop by and say how I hated Violetta, not the show, the character. I semi watch the show just because of the other characters, Violetta was the pinnacle of all y/n fanfics, among Fanfics that you write about romance when you are 12 year old.
I only watched season 1 of Violetta, but the way people were rooting for them and not Violetta & Tomas was the weirdest thing to me. To me the show literally told us to ship Violetta with Tomas. I don’t remember much details about how Leon was with her, but he seemed to just like her because everyone else did, or to try and compete with Tomas, whilst Tomas genuinely loved her. It was so weird to see there was even discussion about which one was the better ship
Yess when the show first aired I was completely sure that Tomas was being pushed as the main character, like Leon was there just for drama but all the scenes with Tomas were edited as the most romantic ones and she would always write songs about him and stuff.. Then in the last episode they just... Suddenly took him off the show(? Without warning
@@lethumthiyane5245 Exactly. The only reason they didn’t end up together is because the actor had to leave for whatever reason. I get it though, 80 episodes w 40 min length, they could’ve split that up 😂
You're so right. I watched Violetta when I was about 12-13 and I don't remember a lot about the details but I loved Tomas, I have the impression he was a very sweet person. I found it surprising Violetta ended up choosing Leon, who was obviously the "bad boy". It was so unfair Tomas didn't continue in the show.
So i've finished the video now and man I do not like either of these people. Like, if I spent 240 episodes and a movie with them I'd totally feel differently, but they Sound like the WORST if you condense their relationship down to a 2 hour Video essay, constantly locked in a battle of jealousy when together, tormenting each other when apart, it's propably great content to watch in the show but on a character level it just SUCKS! I now know why people say they prefer Luna over Violetta as a character, because I think the creators got that feedback on their previous Show and said "oh our main charachter isn't likeable? I'll show you likeable!" and made Luna!
OMG I hate Violetta as a character, everything MUST be about her, especially in season 3 when Fran wants to tell her something important but Violetta can only talk about Leon... she is the worst best friend
Me encanto el análisis. Ahora que lo pienso, como mexicana que creció viendo muchas telenovelas juveniles, puedo decir que los celos y la poca comunicación, junto a otros puntos toxicos, eran típicos en cada una de esas parejas. No sólo se observa en Violetta. La cantidad de veces que me desespere viendo las peleas en Isa tkm, somos tu y yo, y sueña comingo son infinitas 😂
On a side note I’ve always founded ridiculous how they expected us to believe all the actors were teenagers. Like I can see it for Violetta (I think she was actually around 16 at the time), but León? Ludmila?? DIEGO??? Like come on now that man had to be at least in his twenties.
meanwhile i remember thinking Federico looked like a 14 year old (I just checked and he does look younger than them but that's because the main cast was in their twenties, imo he does look like a high schooler)
They look like teenagers to me but maybe that’s cause we tend to look older nowadays Edit: I’m rewatching the show and I watched some of the episodes in Spanish, I get what you’re saying now lol
Me and all my classmates wached this show in elementary school and I remember all of us thinking that Violetta couldn't do no wrong. So seeing I toxic she actually was come as a big surprise to me.
I started your video and after 10 minutes I decided to binge the whole show myself (for the first time). So now 4 weeks later-yes my head hurts from all the drama-i am back here. Awesome video. Although the show/ship is really messy, I had a blast :)
1:15:43 I know this show came out first, and I know actors aren't married to a single type of role, but god does it give me whiplash to see Rodrigo Pedreira like this because all I know him as is a stoic badass! Like, he seems like a pretty cool dude irl but I cannot shake the Image of rey😂
I was obsessed with Violetta as a teen but never cared much about Leonetta or any Violetta ships. They had nice moments but I was a little bit annoyed with them constantly breaking up and going back together... I never realize how unhealthy they were but at the same time your video made me realize how cute they were when things were going well. Fede and Ludmila and Naty and Maxi were my ships so I don't see the movie as canon (also I started to ship Ludmila and Naty resently so Lu and "Benicio" is a no no for me)
@@Ana_Oliveira Agreed. He was a clear bully at start of the show, then he Cleary forced himself onto Violetta and couldn’t accept she just didn’t feel the same way about him. As soon as he got with Violetta, he gloated to Tomas and Violetta clearly wanted to be with Tomas but was too nice to say no to Leon.
Why Leon is the best Tomas is a cry baby and makes me mad. Diego emotionally manipulates both Leon and Violetta into breaking them up AND abuses Violetta into a relationship for the sole purpose of breaking her heart in the end.
Can i just say this is probably one of THE MOST entertaining videos I've watched in 2023. As a massive Violetta fan, this was suuuper fun. i remember it all too well. And you including some of the funniest moments... thank you. 💕💕💕💕
when you brought up ross lynch i remembered that one time bridgit mendler showed up to sing hurricane with them at the studio my 10 year old self knew back then that THAT was the best disney channel crossover since wizards meet hannah montana meet suite life on deck, I swear to God.
Same here, 13 yr me was INDIGNADA that in season 2 they just barely adress that he was gone and they added a new español guy for being the rival, and bad boy, leaving León as the better one in comparison. When before Leon was the bad boy causing conflict and Tomás was the soft boy
@@josefagomezschmeisser8356yeah and it didnt work because i just felt like i was watching two bad gyus competing over who is better. And tbh i watched until the end of series bc i thought that tomáš would come back in S3 and be endgame but lol nope
The thing with the flowers and hot air balloon (1:31:15) is so frustrating. They have a history, they both have trust issues, it's incredibly cruel and a little gas-lighty to sneak around behind her back and lie to her, even if it's a nice birthday surprise. This is like saying "babe, see, you should just trust me more because i'm so good to you" and "next time you think I'm lying, just pretend you didn't see anything."
I haven’t heard of this show in so long. I remember watching it in Spanish class. Take a shot every time someone eavesdrops. Or any time an episode ends on a cliffhanger only for it to mean nothing the next episode
For non-Spanish speakers: “Te quiero” can mean either “I want you” or “I love you” “Te amo” just means “I love you” Quiero is usually used for things like close friends that you love. Amo is used more for family or the love of you life. It’s a stronger and more long lasting emotion.
I just want to say I really appreciate these videos. Violetta was a big part of my childhood and I'm very happy that people outside of south america can appreciate these shows just as much. You just gained a new subscriber!! Keep up the good work.
i love watching these videos with zero context this is like a nature documentary
Lmaooooo 🤣🤣🤣 Literally! I do the same thing and your description is perfect
for real 😭 trying to figure out the plot and premise of this show while following along like i’m an idiot detective
Dude exactly- it's so calming and interesting for me
Same! I've never even seen any of these shows but I'm here for the tea 😂
Omg me too! I’ve never seen violetta!
The show being 80 episodes per season for three seasons almost explains their toxicity.. gotta stretch it out somehow 😂
It is mostly how telenvoelas are structured in Latin America. Rather than wait a year or two for a second season, a telenovela's is structured so that you can watch it daily and is only one season in one year. Since Violeta was so massively successful, it was stretched even thinner than most telenovelas. Trustme there is no more toxic relationships than a telenovela's main protagonists
That's why O11ce is better
Honestly if these guys weren’t fighting all the time neither of them would have an arc.
Still crazy considering Soy Luna has the exact same amount of episodes yet manages to actually have a healthy friends to partners to friends relationship. Obviously it's not perfect, there's still enough toxicity throughout the show but they definitely improved.
I want to watch some of these shows, but the 80 episodes per season intimidates me. Same with the one piece animation with a 1,000+ episodes.
their whole relationship is basically fighting and almost kissing
Kkkk thats true
In the middle: songs
@@nini4037 songs they both dreamed about, like „our way“😂
@@nini4037Songs that are mostly good too. Props to them. At least one good thing they have got going for their relationship.
I think the problem with Leon and Violetta is apparent when you realize that a large amount of his romantic gestures in the first season were motivated by jealousy. And do I even need to mention Violetta’s Bella swan-esque behavior of playing two guys who obviously love her like a video game?
And also all the new guys fall for violetta too
I hated Leon's attitude in the firts, he was lowkey aggressive, I thought Thomas was a better match.
@@mimid.227he was toxic aff as well
OMG BELLA
that's who she reminds me of! THANK you i was going crazy
@@mahatmaayayos2384 yeah, Thomas actively hit on Violetta while he was with Fran. And very surprised when she tells him "wtf, you are with my best friend!"
They’re relationship is like “god you’re both just enabling each other’s toxic habits. You’re perfect for each other, but please don’t involve anyone else in this relationship”
It's like they're making each other miserable so everyone else can be happy.
as an argentine who only ever watched violetta very occasionally i cannot even attempt to describe my thoughts when one day i turned on the tv and i had tini stoessel in a hot pink wig doing a horrid mexican accent on my screen
SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING A MEXICAN ACCENT??? I'm Brazilian so I watched it dubbed when I was a kid and in the dub they didn't had Roxy doing ANY ACCENT AT ALL LMAOOOOO
@@anafolie471EXATO! Tipo oi cm assim
?!
@@anafolie471 And in the English dub, she sounded like she came straight from Texas or Nashville.
Wait really? It didn't sound to me like she changed her accent at all 😂
@@maxblack9419 That was more audible in the English dub.
im latin american & though i never really got into Violetta, you reminded me of how my friends would fight over who would marry Leon at recess 💀
I ever win this game.
Lmao sameeee
Lmao and when we were in middle school, one of the girls was pretending to be Leon for a show at a Christmas market (since her and the other Violetta superfan from our class were meant to sing "Voy por ti") , but since she never came to the actual show, I filled in for her with the english lyrics of the song, and everyone just thought it was a part of the show.
LMAO IF THIS AIN'T ME. My uncle's goddaughter (basically a cousin in my family) LOVED that series sm, she loved s1 the most due to Tomas but istg I felt my neurons die when she would sit down on the living room to wait for an episode and just give me summaries of what was happening (not bcs I did't want to listen to her but bcs the plot sounded like a mess). Ngl she kinda got mad at me when I started getting a little invested by making predictions and being right lol I remember I tried to make it up to her by giving her Violetta merch for Christmas. But now that we've grown a bit since then, I tease her by saying "miremos tu programa favorito" aka Violetta and she just laughs and cringes a bit, but she loves the show still. It became a comfort show in which we spend time together but she binges and I'm on my phone while laughing at the plot and both of us singing the songs. Ig the nostalgia made this mess of a show somewhat special for me, and I never even watched it in its entirety 🤣🤣🤣 oof rant over
@@Rox7ne Lmao I was just like her when the show was airing, except I'd write episode summaries on sheets and sheets of paper and then type them out during IT Class whenever we had to choose a text to format and edit. Surprisingly, my then-IT teacher allowed it and just found it hilarious.
Their relationship in a nutshell. When they’re not together, they think about each other all the time. When they’re together, they always fight and think about other people.
Basically they want what they can't have
Okay but not enough people are talking about the evolution of my man's hair
FRRRRR he went from that justin bieber ahh haircut to pretty normal looking hair to going full elvis presley w it 😭😭😭
@@bruh-cs4zu I couldn’t phrase it better
NO BECAUSE WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I WAS OBSESSED WITH THE SHOW AND USED TO EAY “you can tell what season it is by leon’s hair cus it gradually keeps going up”
Let’s not forget that magnificent afro
Leonetta has go to be the most ridiculous ship ever.
Also I will NEVER forgive everyone in season 2 for how they gaslighted Violetta after Diego forced himself on her. Even Fran and Cami were victim blaming her. Like what?!?!
fr! Even as a kid watching this I was furious about it. Like, it wasn't even her fault and yet she had to suffer the most ://
Same here, that irritated me the most
Right!! Honestly I hated Diego and of the 3 Leon was most definitely the best choice even with their toxicity he was the most respectful and least forceful of them.
Diego always irritated me. Violetta has much more patience than me because i would have slapped him telenovelas style since long before. The constant harassment and showing up to her place unannounced and entering ???I was so done with all that. (Also sidenote, why is Violetta's home so easy to enter even at night?💀)There was always this discomfort because it's considered macho and romantic in novelas to have a persistent guy that is relentless and will kiss you (without your consent) which convinces you to be with him because ✨ sexual tension✨.
THANK YOU. I HATE Diego. And I will die on this hill. He is a creepy stalker, following her even after she got back with Leon, following her to her house without her knowing, coming to her house constantly after she told him to stop, filming their rehearsal to make it seem like they are kissing, then lying to Leon about them actually kissing, and then lying to Violetta about lying to Leon.
13:29 this comment made me laugh out loud. not only its common for those two but like violetta in general. german is a MILLIONAIRE but his house has the worst security ever i swear at least once in ten episodes a plot point happens because someone broke into her house 😭
It’s so funny, in real life the robbers wouldn’t even leave the furniture
And then there was Ludmilla who snuck into the house and infested it with bedbugs in Season 1.
@@aminaj.7032 JESUS I FORGOT ABOUT THAT LMAOOOOO this house could have won a worst security award bfr
angie's entire character exists because of it
I feel like this is one of those pairings that despite them being problematic, you can’t help but root for them.
they're like the hetero version of toxic yaoi/yuri
Yeah, at first I HATED them but then they had me seeking out the movie to see them together
It's really not if you watch the show. Even when he's not cheating he's always speaking down to her and blaming her for things out of her control.
Reminds me of any adaptation of "Hana yori dango".
lol yes like chuck and Blair from gossip girl😂
Yes!! I knew I wasn't the only person who thought this wasn't a healthy relationship.
I’d be pretty concerned if anyone thought this relationship was completely healthy
I will always have a soft spot for Leonetta for as long as I live. I excuse all the break ups and arguing for how they would write a telenovela back then, and they really couldn't accept the main couple being together for a whole season. I really wish that Leon and Violetta would have been together for all of season 3 and they focused on a different kind of drama, but they were the favorite kind to write for, so what could I expect. Violetta was my first introduction to Telenovela's and so they will always be beloved to me
Yesssss
This show reminded me that no matter what goes on in life… Leon’s hair will get higher and higher each season.
Like seriously his hair was higher than my hope for their relationship at times 😂
HAHAHAHA
😂😂😂😂😂😂
BAHAHAHAHA 💀😭
Every season Leon’s hair get higher and Violetta’s hair get more bleached😭😭😭😭
@@natalie9796 NOOO CAUSE IT’S TRUE 💀💀💀
was leon toxic? yes, but was he also my favorite character and probably the funniest one? yes, he was so sassy 😭
omg this is so true
he was not toxic. Violetta CONSTANTLY lied to him about liking other guys, they went through the same things with Toma. It's understandable that he would have doubts. He never got seriously angry with her even though he had EVERY reason to be angry with her.
@@tinanana-he wasn't that angry because as he said "i know you'll end up with me anyway" - that doesn't sound toxic to you??💀
@@shrekism …no it really doesn’t lol. Would you rather he gets mad at her, goes off on her, call her evil, and then side with the person trying to kick her out…because that’s what Toma did. Saying he knows she’ll end up with him, is not toxic at all, he was being confident. It’s like going into a game and to make yourself confident you say “I’m going to win”….that doesn’t make you toxic.
@shrekism oh come on, it's a teen drama
This is exactly what characters like Leon are supposed to say, this makes them sound cool and appealing
They aren't trying to make him a low-key Frolo for God's sake
Also, Violetta pisses me off
No way in hell that character should be a titular one
Nearly two and a half hours?! You’re seriously going to get me through chores today lol
Now that I'm older I can see that they were so toxic, and even tho León did some messy things violeta was a whole nuclear plant.
^^^ This!! Thank you!!! As a feminist, I can confirm that I do *not* stand for all of the horrible and toxic things Violetta did to her boyfriend
Honestly unacceptable
BTW, I know it doesn't have anything to do with feminism, but some people think feminists like women over men and that is not true...
We fight for women's and people who identify as females' (but maybe don't use the term "woman") rights, but we don't stand for toxicity in any relationship caused by either side of said relationship...
I didn't know Americans watched Violetta! I'm from latin america and Violetta was EVERYWHERE, I remember hating it as a child because you couldn't scape from it, but regardless, the songs are a bop. It's so bizarre to hear it in English
violetta was dubbed into English but for some reason never came to USA or Canada (only the uk) back in 2013 (I think, it was around then) but ever since Disney plus launched , it’s been accessible here… that’s how I found it (although Caitlin found it much earlier somehow!)
@@ltteoSLloverI too found it much earlier, since it was on Netflix for a long time
Y’a I only heard about it on Disney plus and never was in America
it was big everywhere ngl like eastern european children were never the same after the first episode dropped (and I was one of them!)
I'm from Germany and it was everywhere here as well (and I loved it!!)
Some say Violetta and Leon are still breaking up and getting back together to this very day...and I'm here for it lol
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Mental health is nothing to joke with. Research as much as you can before finding the right choice for you.
Fun fact: The actor who plays Tomás appeared shortly after in a Colombian telenovela called "La Pola", where he played the role of the protagonist's love interest when they were both younger. La Pola is a telenovela that tells the story of one of the women who helped in the independence of Colombia. It has a couple of things that are not so faithful to historical facts but it's quite good.
Maybe this is completely off-topic, but I gotta say that Leon's hair in season 2 is _such_ an improvement over his hair in season 1. I dunno why, but season 1's type of hairstyle, mostly common in the 2000s I think, gives guys such an egg-shaped head shape, and I've never liked it. (Yes, I see the irony given that my username contains "egghead." I swear that wasn't on purpose. xD)
Edit: I think "Roxy" really was the worst part about the show as a whole, oof.
omg this is a mood
I always say s1 Leon was Troy from high school musical, s2 was improvement of the year, and s3 was the hair he made fun of Fede for having back in s1 lol
@@ltteoSLlover Yes, exactly! And his season 3 hair is the funniest to me because sometimes I can see it working and other times it's just too much, lol.
OMG noooo I love his young justin bieber era 😭
@@ltteoSLloverfunny enough I'm pretty sure he starred as Troy in the high school musical mexican musical or something like that
@@ang_e_ yeah he was the chad character lol
Growing up, this show had me in a chokehold. Tuning in every single weekday to watch their chaotic love. I loved it growing up, and started off team Tomás but Leónetta won me over. I watched it again as an adult, and could only reach until season 2. I think now that I’m older and more aware of toxic relationships and no longer romanticize toxicity, I found their whole makeup-breakup storyline so tiring.
Still love them together tho, but yohhhh what a hectic watch😭
Me too! I was team Tomas and then I grew to love Leonetta but in retrospect, they were too toxic lol
Same. Tho I watched all seasons. Cause I love Ludmila and fede and Diego Francisca. What is you’re fav season ?
I can’t believe you actually did this for a telenovela, I can’t imagine the time this took. I think I’m of the somewhat unpopular opinion that I actually like Leon a lot, he’s my favorite character from the show. I think it’s the telenovela setting because I would hate him in real life. But after spending some time with his character, I found him really entertaining and funny, especially by season 2. It also helped that he was my favorite male singer on the show, that boy can saaaanng. And I love detective Leon, it’s so random but makes so much sense. I even came to like how he was so angry all the time, because it was so funny to see him be pissed and petty over the smallest things and make little jabs. It really emphasized the lion in Leon, if you know what I mean. He was very much a no nonsense character, for everything except anything involving Violetta at least. Although I do agree, it becomes frustrating over time. But honestly if I had to deal with all the bs that was dumped on to him through out the show, I would be pissed all the time too. At least you could see that he was somewhat self aware and made an effort to change some of his behaviors as the show went on, the telenovela lords couldn’t let him have too much character development though.
His relationship with Violetta was definitely a whole toxic mess, and Violetta was honestly the worst. He was obviously the second choice in season 1. But at their best, they were really cute. I loved their hugs, all of their love duets were beautiful, their shared dreams were cute, and their voices complemented each other the best in the show imo. Them singing together was definitely one of the highlights of their relationship. Sadly I spoiled that Podemos duet for myself, but it actually convinced me to not drop the show because I liked that scene so much and I wanted to watch the show until I could see it in context. I even liked it when they bickered in less serious situations, I thought they were funny. But the best parts of the relationship, and the best parts of Leon, are definitely shown when Leon comforts Violetta whenever something really serious happens in her life. It shows how much of an anchor he actually is in Violetta‘s life no matter what the situation is with their relationship and he’s always so calm and supportive when stuff like that happens, it makes you forget that he’s pretty awful sometimes. At this point, I think they’re meant to be together because I don’t know how anyone else could put up with all their shenanigans and still be able to come around and be supportive at the right moments. This ship truly took „underneath it all“ to another level, it’s almost poetic actually.
Leon in the movie TINI is the one who has had the most evolution. he didn't fight with the Italian. He didn't even fight with Violetta for believing in fake news and not going to talk to him in a mature way
oh my god thissss!!! i find león's arc very compelling and he genuinely becomes one of the most rational and grounded characters in the show; but he's also *realistic*
he doesn't stop being a little bitch when he needs to be, and it works - he talks andrés down a lot, and after his arc in season 1 has so much respect for him and their friendship (the funeral for the stuffed sheep!!!), but also knows where to draw the line. Violetta is a chaotic character, that's absolutely the point; i think León is genuinely the only person that can simultaneously match her energy when he needs to, and also be the voice of reason.
My favourite complaint about León is that he's toxic because he's jealous 100% of the time - mostly because EVERY TIME he's been wary of a guy it's been for a very good reason. It's not that the guys are *just* interested in Violetta, it's that they have a legitimate agenda for *splitting them up*, which is very different.
Yeah this ship is going to be toxic, hello, it's a telenovela where the other main couple is a man and his dead wife's half-sister. But to me leonetta have never been toxic in a way that feels unsalvageable; these two reach a point where there really is nobody else for the other person.
Is it unpopular to like Leon? I like him too
To me Leon is super entertaining to watch
Pardon me, but he's the Adrian 1.0 (Both are hot shit, both have a goofy sidekick, both hopeless romantics, talented and have kind of volatile character.
He's toxic by real life standards but he's still the highlight of the show.
Reasonable (as one can be in this show), kinda having the fae child energy (he is PETTY) and balanced enough to to feel like a cardboard cutout
I would love a video on Angie and German or a video of all the other ships like Nati and Maxi (one of my all time favs),ludmi and fede, Camilla and broduey and fran and diego like theres so many ship I can sit and watch them all day long.
Omg Angie and German were a whole mess. Their first kiss was cute, but Angie being his dead wife‘s sister always weirded me out a bit. And how does a man nearly walk down the aisle three times, with three different women, in the span of like three years??? And Angie was there the whole time just watching??
@@_lady_melzagreed
also i would personally like for her to end up with pablo
@@michalinadurzynska6868 I feel like German and Angie are the one couple EVERYONE agrees should never have happened. Like I've never seen a single soul saying they actually like German and Angie together 💀
@@anafolie471 She knew what kind of a toxic father he was, exploding over literally nothing and causing scenes in public, yet she still ended up with him in the series finale.
Omg Nati and Maxi!!!! No one talks about them and Nati was my favourite character even before she separated from Ludmilla and actually started having screen-time lol
i fear nothing could ever make me hate leonetta, they're tooo good
Exactly they are just too elite IDC
I will go down with this ship
I felt like str
angIing him! Especially season 1. (And vilu too sometimes)
Likeeee yeah they were messy but like…the duets though🤭
Never seen the show but this is definitely giving kid version telanovela. I would find this ship more exhausting than anything
these shows (violetta, soy luna, bia) are telenovelas aimed at kids… they share a lot of common tropes just toned down A LOT (obviously)
but they seriously are exhausting
It’s more towards teens kids. But it has a lot of real adult problems as well in it.
12 year old me was so in love with Jorge Blanco haha. 10 years later, can't blame myself 😂
me neither lol
Sameee😂😂
I was obsessed
I cried when I realized he was engaged
@@chelseaxoxo784omg me too 🤣 me and my best friend saw the video of him proposing to his gf / now wife and we were sobbing 💀 we were 10 😭
@@chelseaxoxo784this must be some kind of universal experience because i genuinely cried when I found out he was married too LMAO
Same but I’m a guy😂
Being a fan of novelas like Casi Angeles, this level of toxicity is almost nothing compared to one of the main couples of the series, Mar and Thiago
Mar and Thaigo are the blueprint for toxic teenage couples that I somehow still root for ❤
HAHAHAHAHAH VERY TRUE
I had really forgotten how confused Violetta was...i didn't remember all the indecision, hurting Leon and the emotional infidelity. I also had not understood that what Diego did to her was wrong... You've made me realise so many things, and this video was so fun to watch!!
You could have chosen a different sponsor though. I hope you do better im the future
i watched violetta as a kid and this video definitely reminded me of how crazy some of the plotpoints were, and also how normalized their jealousy and lack of communication was. it definitely shaped the way i viewed relationships at that age (unfortunately). i remember how infuriating the roxy arc was and how much i hated gery (can't remember exactly what she did but i do remember being furious with her shenanigans). i also remember loving fran and diego!! i'd love to hear your thoughts on them too. their story was definitely shorter than leonetta, but still great (and possibly less toxic??). also francesca's song in s3 was such a banger
anyway great video!! thank u!
I theres one thing with Leon if music didnt work out I think he'd have a good career as a detective.
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damn, so betterhelp is just going to reappear like nothing ever happened huh
Wait what happened?
@@Magda-ly5rp I can't tell exactly bc it was a long while ago so I don't remember that much, but is basically a scam lol I think there are videos explaining deep in detail what happened back then
Despite its credible presentation, BetterHelp was caught selling data to Facebook, Snapchat, Criteo, and Pinterest. The company recently settled for $7.8 million. The FTC confirmed that BetterHelp pushed people into handing over health information.
@@Magda-ly5rp they offered free therapy for isr aelians 💀
@@Magda-ly5rp they got in trouble for having unprofessional therapists who would ghost their clients and for their dishonest adverts i believe, maybe some other stuff but i cant remember so dont quote me on that :P
This is like a walk down memory lane and I can't believe how dramatic their entire relationship is. I'd love it if you could cover Ludmilla and Federico's relationship! ❤ They were my favs!
I listened to the ENTIRE video in one sitting because i just like hearing you talk and explain things 😂
I think the reason why they're not " toxic" it's their friendship. When Vilu need the most a friend, Leon was there. Especially at the time she found out about Diego's lie, or her father issues, insecure problems...
Leon could understand when she need support, not love. Something that Diego couldn't. And, yes, Tomas was a great guy. But i think he never helped Violetta grow as person. It's always " you only can sing with me, or we're destiny be together." He would be a great boyfriend to her, but a great friend. ( They're friends for like, four chapters dude lol)
Leon could understand Vilu wishes and time to process, maybe that's why she was more in love with him. Her most desire on the series, it's wanted time and respect to her decions since her father never give that to her.
Agreee
I really disliked that her dyed her hair blonde in season 3 😫
it was 2014, that brown-blonde fade was the vibe 😭
Oh girl, not BetterHelp... I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you simply weren't around when all the garbage that company has done came out, but this is still pretty disappointing to see, speaking as someone who did work as a freelancer I know how hard it is to make consistent money on the internet and I know how hard it is to find companies that aren't complete garbage, but you can at least do a little bit of research on the ones sponsoring you, BetterHelp's problems are so well documented you wouldn't even take half an hour to find some of them.
Quick edit cause I forgot to include this: I don't say this to hate on you, I really like your content and I hope the best comes your way, it's just tiring seeing good people getting their names tainted by shitty sponsors.
No I agree, lots of RUclipsrs at best don’t do their research or at worst know about scummy sponsors but promote them anyway for money.
This I see a lot of people hating her for doing this but better help "drama" was not that popular and she could have simply not know
@@M3lissaCottage yeah, i really don't wanna come across as being a hater cause I won't even unsubscribe or stop watching, i just legit want people to stop giving BetterHelp the time of day
@@Ulora . Better help is the raid shadow legends of 2023 but WAY worse
@@M3lissaCottageidk if youre gonna promote something you should make some research
As an Argentinian I am glad that rhe original audio was kept, it allowed me to feel nostalgic watching the clips after sooooo many years.
I remeber thinking that Leon was uepr toxic even being 12 at the time, I was far more invested in the aunt's storyline 😂
having a boring day and opening youtube to this… a blessing if you ask me
i always hate the fact that Thomas got destroyed when he was clearly the better choice 13 years old me is furious 🤣🤣
Agree 100%. As a kid, I was a Tomaletta fan. The fact that they never got official infuriated me. As an adult, I still wish they actually dated because they had natural chemistry but Leon and Ludmila kept sabotaging them and couldn’t leave them alone.
I never really liked Thomas not because there was anything wrong with him or anything, i just thought he was annoyingly nice and wasnt as cute in my eyes lollll. even when Leon was with Ludmilla being a little shit... i always rooted for Leonatta, i honeastly don't know what that says about my 12 year old self😭😭🤣🤣
@@5hiningflowerThat makes sense. As a fan of this type of series, I know that normally there is always like a "magical and romantic" scene of the protagonists meeting their love interest, like time stops for them, they look at each other completly mesmerize lol (just like Violetta meeting Tomas). That type of scene is always like a declaration of the plot that they will be the official romantic partner and endgame. Even if there is a love triangle. Violetta was the only exception for this.
yes that's true @@5hiningflower
you like bad boys 🤣🤣@@pojee4318
this is like a fraction of how i feel about leonetta as a couple - but i really enjoy león's arc in s1. I *love* that he gets a good taste of his own medicine in violetta consistently coming back to tomás - his manipulation tactics weren't cool early on in the show, and the show punishes him for that, and by the end of s1 that boy is *tired*, but his dynamics with other characters growing and his actual foundation as a source of comfort for violetta is wonderful to see imo; perhaps when juxtaposed with tomás, who i would argue remains stagnant throughout, he feels much more compelling. Especially given Violetta's development in her confidence and musical ability over season 1, these two feel like they've sort of grown up together a little?
These two are messy as hell together, but this is *so* a telenovela with 240 episodes and a barely canon movie - the messiness, pettiness, and ridiculousness (mutual song writing dreams??) essentially seals them as people who, like you said, could only end up with each other.
Yeah, Leon’s character arc it’s so good. From popular guy who hates nerds like Francheska or Camilla he become a good guy who understand other people and talk with them on the same level.
Tomas… he is just boring IMO. When Leon had his character development Tomas stands in the trope of “cute romantic boy with a guitar”
The thing that sours this thing for me a bit, is the age gap between the actors. Martina Stossel was 15 and Jorge Blanco was 21. So for a good portion of the series, it was an adult kissing and cuddling and all that intimate stuff with a minor. I don't really know who made this casting choice. I mean, either have both be played by teenagers or by adults.
I think she got to audition for the role bc her dad was the director or producer or something like that
I remember Jorge saying in one of the interviews how he felt weirded out when he had to do that on the show precisely because she was 14-15
I used to watch Violetta during first grade. I was OBSESSED to the point I wanted a Violetta schoolbag and cried to my parents about it. A little while later I was banned by my father because there was too much romance. As an innocent little kid, I was horrified that if I was caught watching any episode, I would end up in trouble, so I never did catch up after season 2. This video gave me WHIPLASH lmao
Lol same my dad hated the show bc he thought there was too much romance 💀💀
I actually had a violetta backpack in fourth grade along other merch, i had the diary, the cd, a notebook and pen that played a music, stickers i loved this show ahah
all of their problems would be solved if they just communicated with each other istg
Exactly.
I love Leonetta a lot. Their drama never annoyed me tbh, it was always entertaining and had good pay-off.
Like...I think Lutteo for example is so much worse and really annoying, but I know you love them 😄
i love them but i know theyre toxic it’s all good
yeah good point and one thing that always bothered me with lutteo thing is the obvious real life age difference , all because the actor was in a well known show before; with these two it was not that obvious given tini is tall , compared to carol sevilla;
@caitlinmckillop I love this video, you highlighted so many toxic traits. Would you mind making a video of Federmila from Violetta, love your content.
this show felt like a fever dream
yes
Right? 😂
I love this show. My childhood
Tu español es muy bueno! 💞🥺 mejoras todo el tiempo, increible. And a 2 hour video?? What a treat
betterhelp... when will the youtubers i watch use sponsors that arent despicable
What's wrong with betterhelp? I hadn't heard anything bad about the company.
@@turnipcrazy I have but is not confirm that many of their therapist are not all professionals.
@@rowanjoy419 Okay thank you. From what I'd heard I thought better help was a good source, but that's actually great to know about for the future.
i was just thinking the same thing... so tired of youtubers either doing 0 research or out right ignoring how bad some of the sponsors are.
@@turnipcrazynot just that but they sell data from therapy sessions which are supposed to be private!
Not betterhelp 😭 they are literally in a lawsuit right now
Omg whyyy?
I think that there relationship lacks communication on so many levels because their way of communication is arguing!
every time i see violetta her hair is a shade blonder just like venom taking over the spidersuit but it’s purple shampoo
lol
Leonetta is pretty much this:
1. They get together.
2. They fight for the duration they are together.
3. They break up.
4. They spend the rest of the season basically acting like they are dating but the show doesn’t let them officially be together otherwise there basically is no plot.
5. (Addendum to 4) debate getting back together but one person says no because we still got 20+ episodes to go.
4. They get back together for 5 seconds and then the season is over!!!
Great story writers 👏👏👏
Its exaclty like this
I love Lara as a character. I wish she wasn't just a love interest.
My girl Vilu dyed her hair blonde and all her common sense flew out of her, she was the messiest she's ever been in s3
😂😂
Gotta keep with the stereotypes
One thing I loved about Violetta is that while the acting was questionable most of the time, vilu and leon scenes always felt so real! Especially when they would fight (which happens a lot lol) I always thought the things they said to eachother, their body language and how they looked at each other felt so much like a real couple.
The acting was questionable? What do you mean? They all are great actors. And telenovelas are always more dramatic
Im seriously curious who or what you mean? They all act great
The actors who played the main characters acted great. Most of the extras and small characters were trash though.
But I truly believe they are twin flames or soul tied because no matter what they came back to each other
i believe this too. they were young and stupid but bottom line is they loved each other and only ever deeply loved each other
Exactly they even dreamed the same songs!
Girl, "Morangos com Açúcar" (portuguese tv show) is so the perfect fit for you! You would totally love it !
Agree my friend, at list the couple changes every season makes so much better in my opinion with this go and then don´t and go and no and go like Violet xD
Do you know where can I find the show?
@@Luliana777 i know that it exist in a website called ‘tvi player’ but not sure if there are subtitles or something like that,, it’s the website of the official Portuguese channel so I also don’t know if it is available in foreign countries
Oh My God, my childhood as for every portuguese kid in the 2000s and 2010s. Por favor🫣
@@Luliana777 amazon prime suposedly has it!
I did not like them in season 1 as a couple. Leon knew very well that she didn’t like him in a romantic way and be forced his way into her. Tomas and Violetta clearly were meant to be but Leon couldn’t leave well enough alone.
Season 2, I think Leon improved a whole lot more and I shipped them from there.
When I was younger, I used to watch episodes of Violetta on RUclips and it had the English subtitles I think since the introduction of Disney+ I could not find it on RUclips at all anymore
1:24:48 This is such a memorable and touching moment! Every time gives goosebumps when León, as a real lover, saves Violetta and sings a very beautiful song with her! I'll never forget it! ❤❤❤
Saw the thumbnail, and I have to drop by and say how I hated Violetta, not the show, the character. I semi watch the show just because of the other characters, Violetta was the pinnacle of all y/n fanfics, among Fanfics that you write about romance when you are 12 year old.
Haha true! And I forgot how much of a lier she was.
She was fine and better in season 2/3
i grew up w this show now looking back they were so toxic 😭
Great analysis as always, Violetta and Leon were such a mess but I still love them. I would to see a Fedelumi video as they were my favorite.
I only watched season 1 of Violetta, but the way people were rooting for them and not Violetta & Tomas was the weirdest thing to me. To me the show literally told us to ship Violetta with Tomas. I don’t remember much details about how Leon was with her, but he seemed to just like her because everyone else did, or to try and compete with Tomas, whilst Tomas genuinely loved her. It was so weird to see there was even discussion about which one was the better ship
Yess when the show first aired I was completely sure that Tomas was being pushed as the main character, like Leon was there just for drama but all the scenes with Tomas were edited as the most romantic ones and she would always write songs about him and stuff.. Then in the last episode they just... Suddenly took him off the show(? Without warning
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To think if the actor never left, Tomas and Violetta would be officially together in season 2 onwards.
@@lethumthiyane5245 Exactly. The only reason they didn’t end up together is because the actor had to leave for whatever reason. I get it though, 80 episodes w 40 min length, they could’ve split that up 😂
For real!! I was mad af because Thomas deserved better 😢
You're so right. I watched Violetta when I was about 12-13 and I don't remember a lot about the details but I loved Tomas, I have the impression he was a very sweet person. I found it surprising Violetta ended up choosing Leon, who was obviously the "bad boy". It was so unfair Tomas didn't continue in the show.
3 long seasons, 1 movie and 0 character growth. I'm so upset.
But I loved your video. This really is an explanation of a relationship from a TV show.
Some characters like Ludmila had a lot of character growth
30:55 I FORGOT RUGGERO IS IN THIS SHOW, this jumpscared the HELL out of me
BRO I fully believe that season 3 was so messy that little me blocked it out of my head 😭😭
So i've finished the video now and man I do not like either of these people. Like, if I spent 240 episodes and a movie with them I'd totally feel differently, but they Sound like the WORST if you condense their relationship down to a 2 hour Video essay, constantly locked in a battle of jealousy when together, tormenting each other when apart, it's propably great content to watch in the show but on a character level it just SUCKS! I now know why people say they prefer Luna over Violetta as a character, because I think the creators got that feedback on their previous Show and said "oh our main charachter isn't likeable? I'll show you likeable!" and made Luna!
OMG I hate Violetta as a character, everything MUST be about her, especially in season 3 when Fran wants to tell her something important but Violetta can only talk about Leon... she is the worst best friend
I agree. In the season 3 Violetta lied to Leon by pretending to be Roxy. It is insane and scary. Like a stalker. She always was so jealous
Me encanto el análisis. Ahora que lo pienso, como mexicana que creció viendo muchas telenovelas juveniles, puedo decir que los celos y la poca comunicación, junto a otros puntos toxicos, eran típicos en cada una de esas parejas. No sólo se observa en Violetta. La cantidad de veces que me desespere viendo las peleas en Isa tkm, somos tu y yo, y sueña comingo son infinitas 😂
This feels like binge watching Violetta but also makes me want to binge watch violetta. So much nostalgia I love the drama
This just reminded me of how much I wanted Violetta's wardrobe
I THOUGHT WITH FINALE YOU MEANT SERIES FINALE, I FORGOT WE'RE STILL IN S2! 😂
On a side note I’ve always founded ridiculous how they expected us to believe all the actors were teenagers. Like I can see it for Violetta (I think she was actually around 16 at the time), but León? Ludmila?? DIEGO??? Like come on now that man had to be at least in his twenties.
meanwhile i remember thinking Federico looked like a 14 year old (I just checked and he does look younger than them but that's because the main cast was in their twenties, imo he does look like a high schooler)
Leon definitely looked like a teenager imo, probably an early bloomer, but still, the actor has always had a bit of a baby face
The violetta actress looks a lot older than she is actually
They look like teenagers to me but maybe that’s cause we tend to look older nowadays
Edit: I’m rewatching the show and I watched some of the episodes in Spanish, I get what you’re saying now lol
The makeup and hair for Ludmila in season 1 made her look even older in my opinion, then improved
They were so toxic but I love them with all my heart, I can’t help it
Soul mates in the worst possible way. ❤❤🎉❤
Me and all my classmates wached this show in elementary school and I remember all of us thinking that Violetta couldn't do no wrong. So seeing I toxic she actually was come as a big surprise to me.
I started your video and after 10 minutes I decided to binge the whole show myself (for the first time). So now 4 weeks later-yes my head hurts from all the drama-i am back here. Awesome video. Although the show/ship is really messy, I had a blast :)
1:15:43 I know this show came out first, and I know actors aren't married to a single type of role, but god does it give me whiplash to see Rodrigo Pedreira like this because all I know him as is a stoic badass! Like, he seems like a pretty cool dude irl but I cannot shake the Image of rey😂
I was obsessed with Violetta as a teen but never cared much about Leonetta or any Violetta ships. They had nice moments but I was a little bit annoyed with them constantly breaking up and going back together... I never realize how unhealthy they were but at the same time your video made me realize how cute they were when things were going well. Fede and Ludmila and Naty and Maxi were my ships so I don't see the movie as canon (also I started to ship Ludmila and Naty resently so Lu and "Benicio" is a no no for me)
While they went to Madrid, I wish Tomas had made a guest appearance and him and Leon made peace
I will die for this ship PERIOD 😂
Me too, I will go to WAR
I’m glad I’m not crazy bc even with allll this I still love this ship😭
i did not just watch 2 hours worth of disney content that i haven’t even seen before. WHAT?! IT DIDNT EVEN FEEL LIKE TWO HOURS
Please make a video talking about Violetta and Thomas, I remember always rooting for them so It would be really nice knowing your thoughts
Agreed! That relationship had potential to bigger than it was!
Nah i was obsessed with Tomas and Violetta, still not over them
Omg i adored this show growing up, like u literally don’t understand 😭😭😭😭
Me too. My mom wasn’t impressed but I was hooked like mad
Me too!!
I watched 2 seasons of this but only liked the first one. I remember I so upset she ended with Leon, and about how her personality changed
I remember now, I saw Leon as a villain, that's probably why I didn't like him
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Agreed. He was a clear bully at start of the show, then he Cleary forced himself onto Violetta and couldn’t accept she just didn’t feel the same way about him. As soon as he got with Violetta, he gloated to Tomas and Violetta clearly wanted to be with Tomas but was too nice to say no to Leon.
I think she changed for the better. That’s why I like season 2 better. And I love Ludmila/federico
Why Leon is the best
Tomas is a cry baby and makes me mad.
Diego emotionally manipulates both Leon and Violetta into breaking them up AND abuses Violetta into a relationship for the sole purpose of breaking her heart in the end.
Can i just say this is probably one of THE MOST entertaining videos I've watched in 2023. As a massive Violetta fan, this was suuuper fun. i remember it all too well. And you including some of the funniest moments... thank you. 💕💕💕💕
Omg these 2 could not go more than one episode without fighting and breaking up 😂
when you brought up ross lynch i remembered that one time bridgit mendler showed up to sing hurricane with them at the studio
my 10 year old self knew back then that THAT was the best disney channel crossover since wizards meet hannah montana meet suite life on deck, I swear to God.
The way I was a tomás stan and stopped watching the show when I realised he truly was GONE gone
Same here, 13 yr me was INDIGNADA that in season 2 they just barely adress that he was gone and they added a new español guy for being the rival, and bad boy, leaving León as the better one in comparison. When before Leon was the bad boy causing conflict and Tomás was the soft boy
@@josefagomezschmeisser8356yeah and it didnt work because i just felt like i was watching two bad gyus competing over who is better. And tbh i watched until the end of series bc i thought that tomáš would come back in S3 and be endgame but lol nope
@@wansheda_ yeah, I kept hope for his return but no ಥ╭╮ಥ
The thing with the flowers and hot air balloon (1:31:15) is so frustrating. They have a history, they both have trust issues, it's incredibly cruel and a little gas-lighty to sneak around behind her back and lie to her, even if it's a nice birthday surprise. This is like saying "babe, see, you should just trust me more because i'm so good to you" and "next time you think I'm lying, just pretend you didn't see anything."
I haven’t heard of this show in so long. I remember watching it in Spanish class. Take a shot every time someone eavesdrops. Or any time an episode ends on a cliffhanger only for it to mean nothing the next episode
For non-Spanish speakers:
“Te quiero” can mean either “I want you” or “I love you”
“Te amo” just means “I love you”
Quiero is usually used for things like close friends that you love. Amo is used more for family or the love of you life. It’s a stronger and more long lasting emotion.
hearing this show in its native language is way less annoying than hearing it dubbed in my country lol
where are you from? as an argentine I never knew this show had reach beyond Latin America!!! soooo cool 🥰🇦🇷💜
I just want to say I really appreciate these videos. Violetta was a big part of my childhood and I'm very happy that people outside of south america can appreciate these shows just as much. You just gained a new subscriber!! Keep up the good work.
fr im so sad NO ONE talks about it 😭😭 im from denmark n when i tell you i was OBSESSED w this show as a kid
@@bruh-cs4zuDenmark, damnnnn!!!! I wish we'd known as kids just how far this show reached, I thought it was just an Argentina + Latin America thing!