I've got the base model from 2015, just hit over 150,000 on it, and I absolutely love it! The comfort isn't a big plus, cramps you up after awhile, but the gas mileage this thing get's is amazing. I've only replaced the tires, brakes, rotors and a battery (so far) and it's never left me stranded.
I have had four of them actually. I love them actually. My first one was just the base model, then the c, then one limited actually. The last one I had was actually a 2016. I still have it actually.
@@679William why do so many people shit on the 2015 200s everyone says they r so unreliable? They r such clean cars I’m debating between a 200c and a Lincoln mkz
I personally don't like the brake lights and the turn signals in the same bulb unless it's LED because it's more noticeable and me personally more safer. Chrysler should have put an LED on the 200 from Factory.
The thing with the rear turn signals is because of outdated US regulations. The new 2016 Chevrolet Malibu has the same thing. The blank clear/white area right next to the reverse light is where the amber turn signal would be in international markets. But due to outdated US lighting regulations that regulate the size of the turn signal, that area is too small so Chrysler was unable to put an amber turn signal there. It bothers me too. If this car were to go on sale in say, Europe, there would be an amber turn signal there next to the reverse light. Shame that our government will not address the outdated laws because bmw just announced laser beam headlight tech that will not be available here.
fuck you man the 200 is nicer than most bmw's I test drive cars all the time. Obviously it doesn't hold a stick to an M3 but I like the 200's interior FAR more than the M3's
Not saying this because I'm a BMW owner but I got a 200c as a rental before. The interior is nice but nothing about it feels as solid and quality as a German car. Design and quality are not even close.
Rented one of these for about a couple weeks. I agree with everything he said, the shifter being my number 1 issue. It most certainly has a delay that is quite noticeable, makes you look twice almost every time to make sure you actually selected a gear. Tactile feedback from a shift lever that physically moves through the gears is best imo.
Make sure you get the three ECM and TCM updates that Chrysler has released. I can attest that they do improve the 2-3 shift issue you've noted. I test drove a 2016 last week and had no problems with the 9-speed in S mode with the 3.6L V6. Burnt a lot of rubber on that test drive... and the dealer salesman was not complaining. Edit: After the updates, make sure the dealer completes a "Quick Learn" cycle for the transmission. This retunes the gearing to your engine, after the software updates are completed. If you do that, your 200 transmission should be top-notch.
I've had my 200s for 5 months now. I like the shifter. It's different. I like the ebrake as well. More cars are going to that now. I don't like that 2nd to 3rd shift. It's so weird since all the other shifts are really smooth. I also agree about the brake lights. You'd think all the lights would be led these days. I heard they are a pain to replace too. I too dislike cars where the brake light doubles as a signal but I'll live. lol
people hate on them because people love to hate on Chrysler. I've always had good luck with Chrysler. very refined mid size sedan. I would reccomend v6
I rented one and it was good car... I have to complain about the transmission though... Not bad when you're driving normal but if you're in the highway and you need to floor it it can't skip gears it has to downshift a few times and it's a little laggy. But honestly the 4cyl felt faster than it actually was. :))
I've owned the 200s for a little over a year now. About 8k miles. I'm not a big car person but if I had to complain I'd wish the 9-speed would be more responsive. The 295hp is there, but at times I have to pretty much take over with the paddle shifters so it'll downshift and go if I feel like speeding. Other than that, I enjoy the experience
Did you know about all of these downsides before you bought it? Did you test drive it or, at the least, sit in it and examine the car before you bought it?
I never buy a car without thoroughly checking it out and test driving it. These aren't downsides, just things I think could be addressed by Chrysler to make the car even better.
Ever been to a new car lot lately? Those salesmen don't know the meaning of space. They'll be all up on you like bees on honey. This may not sound economically feasible, but if you see a car that you're serious contemplating on buying rent one just like it from Hertz. Now you've got all the space you need. Here's another thought: if you need new tires and haven't got the money for them go rent a car. Take that rental car, swap all four tires and take it back. Now you've $400 worth of tires for $69.99. That's a joke of course. ;>]
You're so right about the salesmen these days, they're relentless. I understand they have a job to do and want to make a sale because that's how they make money but seriously, some people just want to look. If you want to look around anymore, you pretty much have to go when the dealer is closed! Now once in a while you'll get a good salesman who is more laid back but a lot of times, not so much.
+mhtube01 that's exactly what I do. I go when the dealer is closed. I've heard many stories that the salesmen hound you real good and they are like "we have this for blah blah blah" and other things like that.
READ THIS itll save you 8 minutes of your life. All this guy talks about is how he doesnt like how the car looks. Obviously if u want to buy this car you know how it looks like no real need to watch this video. He doesnt talk about performance at all.
You obviously didn't watch the video, I never said I don't like how the car looks. If you're wondering about performance, you should buy a performance car. Otherwise it has plenty of power and gets great gas mileage. Where's your video showing talking about performance and all of the facts about these cars? OH WAIT.
We have 10,000 miles on ours (200 C with every available option less the block warmer, we live in VA) and we haven't had any issues at all. It did ride really hard when we picked it up and found they had put 46lbs of pressure in the tires. Once deflated to 35 rides beautiful. It's the V6 and it is really pretty quick. Our other car is a G37 Coupe, six speed manual and I think the Chrysler is quicker. But no issues at all.
I have the Chrysler 200 Limited which I like. In my opinion the lag to switch gears with the rotary dial would happen regardless of shift mechanism. Its a delay by the computer which would happen with either design. The stick in the Charger was also not that good and has had its share of problems that only a few makers have fixed. Consumer Reports did a talk about it decently. In general its difficult to tell what gear you are in. The thing I hate most about the car is actually related. Its when you slow down to a stop light and it turns green. There is a delay in shifting back into drive since it automatically takes it out of gear when you slow down. I think its related to the transmission as its relatively complex and a lot of grinding can happen if its not at the right RPM. With the e-Brake, I am pretty sure it uses a vacuum line. It's not the most reliable solution. I actually like it as you get that futuristic locking noise and its easy to flip.
I had audis, bmw, hondas, hyundais, dodge, ford mustang mach 1, chevy's and now I have a 2013 chrysler 200 and to tell you the truth I have no issues with it, I really love the big space inside that car, very roomy for legs.
Yep! I got a 2012 and I love the space inside. Luxurious look and room.. I even sat in the back of my car just to see how people would feel and shit there really is space back there too
I also hate the brake/indicator lights. They should be separate and the indicator light should be amber, it's not 1960 anymore. I find that this is pretty consistent throughout Chrysler products and I dislike all cars with such lights.
Owner of a 2012 Chrysler 200 and I’m really happy with it. Two things I plan on doing soon are a cold air intake and straight pipes. If anyone has other ideas for what I should do plz lemme know
on another note, purchase the Mopar Vehicle protection plan warranty. I opted for the lifetime warranty. after the 36,000 manufacturer is up it only a 100 deductible for any work that needs to be done that includes o.e.m parts.
Thanks for you video. I'm in love with (and considering buying) the new Pacifica and so far everything i've read/seen are rave reviews. Looking for hate on Chrysler I found your video. It is clear you do NOT hate your Chrysler. And I think they finally got their 9 speed fixed...
These cars get all-LEDs in back with the higher option packages. As these are budget-conscious family cars, yes there are going to be some cheap materials in there… The 8-speed is for RWD-based configurations, longitudinal engine layouts.. As the 200 is a traditional FWD-based transverse setup(even in AWD models), the 8-speed wouldn’t be a drop-in kind of deal. The car would need to be totally re-engineered to accept the ZF 8-speed.
I agree with the tail lights... nice LED but then the brake light is a bulb? Doesn't make sense, especially since the previous generation 200 had full led taillights/brake lights
TheReal NateDogg My point exactly. People say it's a stupid complaint but if this car is supposed to be leaps and bounds ahead of its predecessor, you would think they would have full LED brake lights like the old one. Other than that it really is a nice car, shame they gave up on it as well as the Dart.
Loves the car, but says "Hate" in the title of the video. Anyone just seeing the title, and not watching the video will get the wrong idea and avoid this car.
I rented a 200 last year with the 2.4 tigershark it had some good power to it more than enough to get me out on the freeway. One thing I liked about the car is when I used the Bluetooth it automatically stored my phones contacts however what I didn't like about the car was the low roof
+Josh R And what's so wrong with this car? It's among the nicest in it's class and is a well rounded car. I'm proud of this car, and when I want to feel like ten times more of a boss than you, I'll just get in my Challenger Scat Pack Shaker and get 100 thumbs up and smiles down the road. Thanks.
Nice!! I'm sure that was a fun car, those old Mustangs are my favorites. I like the new ones but there's just something about the original that draws me in.
The memory is perhaps better than the reality of how it was. Compared to modern build quality of your Challenger, my Mustang creaked and the heavy doors would sag on their hinges. The window were frameless and would leak in heavy rain and generate wind noise. And mine was only five years old with 36k miles when I bought it. Still there was plenty of thrill when you unleashed the big block if you had traction bars to hold the light rear end down. And I have a few good memories from the back seat!
+Daniel Marrett LOL that's great man. You're right though, cars today are built completely different from the old days, especially with the technology that's out there. People of my generation love the classics though, I think they're so cool. They certainly didn't drive like today's cars but it's just so neat to see what was around back then and how we've evolved. IMO though some of the styling of some classics just can't be beat.
Great video! I too have owned my 200C for over a year and so far put 23k miles on it. Your 5 things that you hate, are spot on. The brake/turn signal lights really should have been LED and even surprised me that it wasn't after owning, I had assumed it was at first. The electronic emergency brake worries me, what happens if the battery dies and you need the brake since you lost power to everything else? It actually happened to me in a prior car, not enjoyable. But you can just press the gas and this releases without having to press the EBrake to release. The rotary shifter would be more nice if the shifts were quicker and not take a second or so like it does. Plus the ZF 9speed, I actually have become to like it, but do agree the 8 speed is much more smooth. I've ridden in a RAM with the 8 speed and it's just way better. But I have learned to smooth out the 2 to 3 shift most of the time by getting rid of that extra annoying delay. I've found that a quicker start makes the computer eventually learn to smooth out that shift. But not all the time. ZF kept saying how they have been working with Chrysler and Honda on the computer programming to meet the American style of driving. I tried more of the European type of driving which means quicker get up to speeds and have found it has helped with smoothing out the 2-3 shift, but it appears only when the trans is warm. Not much help on when it's cold though, it's just rough. Hope this may help.
+Travis Powers I've noticed that it smooths out more when you give it more throttle from a start. Of course I don't beat on the car when it's cold, that's one of the worst things you can do for it, but it is a little rough when cold. I've gotten used to it too but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the 8 speed is better. Sounds like you drive your 200 quite a bit as well! I really can't complain, this really is a great daily driver. One thing about it that I am BEYOND impressed with is the brakes! My car's window sticker says it has heavy duty brakes and that certainly seems to be true because they have stood the test so far and feel just as strong as they did when new. I live in an area with very heavy traffic and do a fair amount of city driving so I've used these brakes pretty hard with lots of hard stops thanks to the crazies on the road today but they don't shimmy or anything. Thank you Chrysler for FINALLY not cheaping out on brakes! I've never understood why companies do that.
+keri “KJ” ellerbe I know, my mom had a 2014 which was of course the last year of the old body style. That's one part about this car that doesn't make sense. I have a feeling Chrysler will address it during a mid cycle refresh in a few years. This car is so much more refined than the old ones otherwise.
+mhtube01 Just letting you know, Took my car to the dealer for an oil change 2 weeks ago. They also reprogrammed the TCM. It's a lot smoother now! The 2 to 3 shift, I keep waiting for it to shift hard and it's not. Well except when the trans is cold, but it's still not shifting anywhere near as hard when cold as it used to. Possible Chrysler has fixed the issue? I spent 2 weeks testing, I'll wait a while and see.
The electronic parking brake is pretty ubiquitous on new cars nowadays - it's actually a good thing b/c a lot of driver don't pull it anywhere near hard enough. The big problem is that what happens when your battery is flat?
I have a 2015 S,v6. I'm from California and drove to Oklahoma. averaged 36.8mpg. I went full synthetic with a K&N air filter. to really get the most of it, go S mode on tranny and take it off traction control. and it's a must you use the paddle shifters!
You got the problems spot on with this vehicle. I own a C. One more thing I would add to the hate list is: The ancient uconnect system. They are the crappiest system. Terrible gps as well. Too bad I can't upgrade to the 2016 model (siri eyes) and no android auto support. I have the safety tech and I am not sure I can just rip it all out and add an oem system since the climate control is inbuilt into the system.
You can set the display to show a small little number right next to the D (Drive) indicating the gear it's in. Nice to have but you'll notice the trans will never go into 9th unless cruising at an extremely illegal 75(?) mph.
I just bought a 2015 Chrysler 200C and I'm in love with it. I bought it with a salvage title due to a low flood (nothing had to be replaced under the hood. Only interior replacements) and I got it for a killer deal. Only $10k. But I'm getting horrible gas mileage because I always want to drive it fast haha.
+Lexusguy0525 hahaha I'm a red head actually. But you're right. I don't know much about cars at all. Still a great car! I only plan on having it for another year then I'll buy something else.
The eight speed transmission is for rear wheel drive and is older and better developed. The nine speed is front wheel drive and brand new, some development time and consumer feedback is needed. Agree that it should have been given more time, but the new 200 was launched a bit early to quell the demand and expectations of the marketplace. My 2015 Jeep Cherokee has a V-6 and nine speed and so far I have had no issues whatsoever. I love the electronic parking brake. Valid point on the tail lights, less so the gear shift. My choice would be the traditional design in my Cherokee. Think the shift knob will go bye, bye just like the old unit on my 2012 Chrysler 300, which I "hate", in a car I absolutely LOVE.
+Bill Burke That makes sense since all of the cars that use the 8 speed are all RWD biased and some are 4WD. That is an excellent transmission, I've driven a few Chrysler products with it and love it. The 9 speed should get better with age, my car is in fact the first model year and I really don't have reason to question it's reliability so far which I'm happy about. I just wish most of the American manufacturers would do away with that turn signal design personally, I'm not crazy about it. I do really like this car though, I'm going to make a video about the top 5 things I love about it.
I think one thing i hate about my. 200s is that they were supossed to be driven for small people. Im 6 feet and infeel sometimes i dont fit on it. I really love all 3
That's exactly my point, I dont understand why they did that. Glad somebody sees my point of view instead of calling me a whiner and that I don't drive a BMW lol. I was in fact picking at a few things in this video but people just dont get that. That's the internet for you though.
I agree. I love my 200s v6 AWD. I watched this cuz I thought I'd never be able to come up with 5 things I dislike. I agree with most of what you said. piano veneer would look good. I personally like the dial. I'm glad they have safeguards because when I first had the car I was driving along and I went to turn the volume down and I actually turned the dial to park while driving 80... thank God there's a safeguard cuz I almost shit my pants when it happened. Anyways great video!
A lot of people say I'm asking too much with my gripe about the plastic instead of piano veneer or wood trim but the previous 200 (which was essentially an updated Sebring) had veneer trim around the infotainment system. This car has far superior build quality so idk why they couldn't have at least put that in the nicer trim models, I can't imagine it would be THAT much more expensive. Yikes that sounds scary, I always wondered what would happen if someone did that so good to know! Thanks for watching!
I think the car is great cause I have a 2012 Chrysler 200 myself. Yes there are I am sure plenty of things Chrysler could have done better with this car but other than that for a mid-size car of its kind it is a pretty fast car and has a lot of space.
My mom had a 2014 200S for almost a year before I got my 2015 so it was cool to drive that one first and then compare it to mine to see just how new and different the redesign is. The old one got a lot of criticism from auto reviewers who called it a fancy Sebring and all that but I still liked it, it was way better than the Sebring but it did have some serious torque steer with the V6! I love the new one though, it is a great car and you get a lot for your money. I will admit mine hasn't been perfect, being an early 2015 build it's had a few problems but they've all been taken care of without worry and have pretty much been all electrical glitches and nothing serious like an engine or transmission.
Dont know what ur talking about. The inside of that car is very nice, very simplistic & modern. However, the problems with that car is internal/mechanical , not the interior. Imjs
they couldn't put the 8HP in the 200. The 8HP is a longitudal design and the 9HP is transverse. however they should be updating firmware to what the Pacifica uses, first drive reviews are saying it's perfect now. but talk about issues, the DDCT in the Dart... my mom has a very early build 2013 MY that has had about 10 reflashes and "recalls" to get the tuning right and one even nuked the output shaft or the secondary clutch causing a replacement of the entire DDCT. it's been amazing since they got it right.
Yeah someone else pointed that out. The DDCT was crap in the Dart from the get go. I drove one and it was fun in manual mode but wow was it confused in auto mode. I had a 2013 Dart Rallye Turbo with the Manual and that was a lot of fun. The 6 speed Powertech automatic trans has been good from what I understand.
+Bargainteers Oh I didn't forget, that's why a lot of people like it. And it has best in class power and infotainment system. Do you trolls listen to yourselves? smh
Don't forget that this car is an IIHS top safety pick plus. This is a great car. if you don't own one don't talk crap. Go hop back in your 03 Honda civic and leave
I have the 2015 C AWD 2nd to third is a bump moment so I agree with your assessment. Mine also has the paddle shifter... Im 50 and have no clue how to use it. I've tried it and it works but i'm used to a clutch and not sure how to drive it when I need to down shift.
I own a 2015 base model; here’s my comments on his issues. #1 - I like the gear selector, but it’s a pain if you need to put it N to move the vehicle if it’s dead. You have to remove the rubber pad on the bottom center storage area, pop the cover off using a key or flathead, pull the metal shaft into a upright position using the tiny rope attached to it. You might have to press the brake pedal down while deactivating the parking brake to move the vehicle. To disengage, pull the rope on the rod towards the rear of the vehicle and release; it should fall back into its original position but you may need to press down on it to make sure it’s secure. #2 and #3 - no problem with the parking break, and I love the tail lamps, especially at night. #4 - I don’t have the same stereo and center piece, but the one on the base model and the touch screen is a bit bland. #5 - the shifting can be a bit jerky/jumpy, especially coming off a stop. You have to real press down soft other wise you’ll feel it jump. It feels similar to being with a driver learning to drive stick. I do like my 200, but I’m having similar issues as others have with it dying on me and can’t figure out why. It starts up fine, but once I get down the street it dies when coming to a stop. Replaces the battery and had the alternator and starter tested. The red lighting bolt comes on and the car reacts but once I pull over and turn it off and back on, it’s fine. The extended warranty is worth looking into adding if you’re buying this car (or any used car really).
I have one, and I haven't had any issues. I can get from Northeast Ohio to Washington, D.C. on one tank of gas. So, to answer your question - they are cheap to own.
Mine did that sometimes. The 2nd to 3rd gear shift I always thought was the worst programmed part of the transmission with the acception of when you'd accelerate harder then back off, it would slam into a higher gear.
It could just be the spark plugs. I pulled mine out at 60 thousand miles for my 200, they were pretty much toast. Don’t wait until 100 thousand miles like the car suggests to do your spark plugs. It’s too long. Switch out your ignition coils too around every 60-70 thousand miles too.
@@evagibson4511 You should do it yourself. It’s awesome. Easy too. You can look cool under the hood. You just need a 5/8 spark plug ratchet and a 10 mm wrench. Some dielectric grease too for the coils.
i own 200s v-6. i agree the 9speed transmission is my biggest issue. just like u said shifting from 2nd to third gear it hangs there and abrubtly shifts into 3rd. i prefer driving in sports mode all of the time. drives and shifts much better. i guess u lose alittle gas mileage but it drives so much better.
Totally agree with you, it's amazing how it's such a different car in sport mode. I really don't know why that 2nd to 3rd shift is like that, but it's exactly how you described.
Yup, it's definitely geared for efficiency. If you put it in Sport mode though, it's a totally different car. In Drive, it's much more conservative. It does get very good fuel mileage, especially for a V6 with almost 300 hp and AWD.
I've already got mine. It's a classy car for the money, but they definitely were hard up on sales. The Chrysler name died along with the bankruptcy 7 years ago unfortunately.
Chrysler has a software update available for the transmission. You might want to see if that fixes your issues with the 9 speed. I also have the 200c, and the transmission is my number one gripe, because it shifts rough. My parents have a Cherokee with the same transmission, and it does the same.
Yeah I've had it updated but it still didn't fix it unfortunately. The service manager said the shifts like the 2nd-3rd shift are just normal characterstics for this transmission. The 8 speed ZF in other Chrysler products is a much better transmission but it's for RWD biased use, not FWD biased like this car so they couldn't use it.
I knew you would say something about the 9spd auto. My wife and I test drove a Jeep Cherokee with the 9spd and it was so weird. It felt really unsure. I like your car, though. I gave this car a lot of thought when car shopping last year. The AWD option is nice.
Yeah it does seem confused at times, on the other hand the combination of power and fuel economy is awesome. It behaves so much better in sport mode. What did you end up getting?
Something in a different class and style from the 200. Ford Fiesta ST. Excellent MPG and really a fun car to drive...just small. Much smaller than a 200.
People in these comments love to talk crap about a car they have no clue about. 1st gen 200's had many problems, yes, but that gen was just thrown out to give them time to build what they really wanted. the 2015 200 had issues as well, but it was the first of that model, it's to be expected. the 16 and 17 200 were almost perfect but by then, the damage was done and sales were too low to continue building them. Very underrated car, I love my 2016 S...I give 5.0s a run for their money...
Yup, that's always how it goes. They basically took the Sebring, which was a garbage car, gave it a complete overhall with some new engines and called it the 200. For what it was, it's wasn't terrible. The 2015 was a far superior car in every way but I think the 9 speed transmission and the issues that came with it were really what gave it a bad reputation. I know the 4 cylinder has had a lot of problems too that they haven't had with the V6. I have 54,500 miles on mine right now and the engine has been the most trouble free part of the car so far. People need to remember that these are man made machines, they're not going to be perfect, especially in their first year of production.
Hi, Maybe you should change the Title to ..5 things that could be changed on the Chrysler 200..... By reading the comments on here, you can tell a lot of people didn't watch the video or listened to you....As you don't hate the car, its just things that could be better......A buddy of mine owns one and loves it, he was a Acura & BMW owner since the 1990's..and loves this car !! As for the idiot comments on here,I bet everyone has something they don't like on their own car...I am a car guy and have some cars I love but I say to myself if this was a little different here and there it would be better, but its not that big of a deal or a deal at all..and still would buy another and recommend it to others !
I've already changed the title twice but I like the way you worded it here, so I just might do that. Many other RUclipsrs who own some awesome cars have made this exact same type of video and received a ton of hate. It really is ridiculous how many people just have nothing better to do than hate in the comments because they didn't watch the video or read the description! Thank you for actually commenting after watching, you understand my points here!
Gonna say this in the nicest way possible. Didn't you see the negatives of this car before buying it? If the things here poss you off or your hate list, why even bother buying it. It doesn't make sense
+Pedro Galarza Hate is a relative term, they're things I wish Chrysler would update in the future. I don't see them as big negatives for the car, just certain things I personally don't care for. I'm the kind of guy who likes to look at the positive side of things, and the strengths of this car far outweigh the weaknesses. It was the perfect car for me when I bought it, it fit my budget, and I don't regret it at all.
lmao this model is base on Italian car that's why i love it Chrysler is cooperate with italy since 2013 i guess so this is why Chrysler is doing nice model
I haven't had a chance to see the lights so I can't comment on #3. I'll have to take another look, but I never noticed #4. Mine might be different though as I have the Wood Accent/Trim. #2 is the one I hate. In fact, I would consider it a safety issue as it makes it impossible to pump the parking brake in the (albeit unlikely) event your regular brakes fail. A hand brake is best. #5 is the other one I really don't like. I would think being entirely computerized, Chrysler could (and should) be able to fix this with a software update and smooth out the shifts.
+LmrichGaming I have 75% tint and my 200 S is black it looks great, I got a new exhaust and air intake and got it to 330 HP the car moves... Can't forget about that sport mode
We just purchased a 2016 200. I agree on the interior they really went all out but on ours we got the 5.0 radio and it's like they just had something plain laying around and threw it in there. Just very generic blah looking IMO.
From my own personal experience with the 2015 Chrysler 200, I would say it's honestly probably the worst car anyone could pick to drive. I bought one in August of 2015 in black (200s) with the V6. The car pulled well for 3500lbs and 295hp. I was driving on the interstate one day and the car completely shut off on me. Nothing worked. So I manually popped the hood and looked at its internals to see if I could notice a problem. Nothing. Sat back in the car and called the dealer and then the car started to work again. When I say work, I mean the electricity and lights cut back on. Day or so later the same thing happened but this time I was parked. Had the piece of shit towed into Chrysler and they said the electrical wiring harness was bad. Got it replaced in about a month, in that time I drove the exact same car around as a rental. Got my car back, brought it back to the dealer within 2 days for the same problem. This time I was lucky enough for it to work again and ballsy enough to drive it to the dealership. Engine wiring harness apparently was bad too. Eventually Chrysler called me and said there's been a large recall on the electric and engine wiring harnesses. I was in my rental 200 from I'd say September 2015 to January 2016. They finally deemed the car a lemon and junked it. I was given a matching msrp from Chrysler to use on another Chrysler product after this. I ended up getting a 2016 Charger R/T and it is the best car I've ever purchased. It's unbelievable how awful the 200 is all together regardless of what model you have compared to the charger. You get so much more of a car. Good luck with that car. I'm glad it's being discontinued in 2017, along side the Dart and Viper unfortunately. Most of the "dislikes" ya have for this car are just reasons in my head why I truly hate the 200 and all these dislikes honestly lead to it's downfall. Chrysler wasn't ready for a 9 speed.
I own the 2015 200C fully loaded and I can say I hate the crappy 8" Alpine sub.. I'm replacing mines with a Kicker 40CWD82.. Another thing I hate is the rear deck that rattles from the 3rd break light tapping the Window from bass (which I will be sound deadning).. One more thing, the wiring is fucked up in my car.. I have to keep replacing fuses for my sunroof and auto rain sensing wipers, which I know it's a recall on that actually now I think about it! But yea those would be my complaints! You should've gotten the 200C, mines wood grain playa!
This one is a 200C and has the wood grain trim. You can get upgraded perforated leather seats with a chrome ring around the steering wheel, two tone color schemes, plus other electronics this one doesn't have. So I have one of the top trim levels but it doesn't have every option. They had a black one with every option but it was too expensive for me at the time so I got this one which has all of the options I would ever really need or want. You should take yours to a dealer and get the wiring fixed. I think the sub is plenty loud enough lol it rattles the trunk which does get a little annoying. My Challenger had the 18 speaker Harmon-Kardon system and that has 2 subs in the trunk but nothing rattles. I don't keep the bass up though, I hate crazy sub systems personally. If the sound isn't equalized, it's going to bother me. Overall I really like my car, I really had to think to come up with these complaints which are pretty minor.
+mhtube01 mines came out to be around $35,000, but It's all about knowing the right person plus negotiating.. Brought it down to $28,819. I also had them give me the best tint money can buy, the UV Ray tint. it does a damn good job keeping out heat but it still gets hot during the summer but not as hot. I was watching CES 2016 and Apple car play and Android Play coming this summer
Lol I couldn't care less really, the haters are always going to hate. I can't say these 200s are Chrysler's best car because they certainly aren't. It's a shame too because they could have been a turning point for the company along with cars like the Dodge Dart to get away from their generally poor mid-2000s reputation. This car actually got wrecked in November 2018 and I can't complain too much about it because it did everything it was supposed to and protected me very well. It certainly had it's quirks when it was around though. I don't think Chrysler deserves the bad reputation they have with so many people. My family has owned several cars from them and they have been good overall. Their transmissions are definitely not what they used to be but their engines are overall solid, especially the HEMIs. They had a few problems when they came back out but the 2007 and up ones are good. The Pentastar V6 was also the least problematic part of this car.
Yes you are correct. Chrysler has put out a transmission reprogram for these which should apply to mine since it was an early 2015 build and I've heard it smooths out the shifts a lot and fixes the weird quirks I don't care for. I'm taking it in for an oil change and tire rotation tomorrow and going to see if they can actually do that too.
Yeah I forgot about that, my mom had a 2014 200 S that had the same finish. Otherwise the 2015 interior is much nicer and higher quality. I wish mine had the dark ash wood trim around the screen like it does on the doors and the gauges.
I've got the base model from 2015, just hit over 150,000 on it, and I absolutely love it! The comfort isn't a big plus, cramps you up after awhile, but the gas mileage this thing get's is amazing. I've only replaced the tires, brakes, rotors and a battery (so far) and it's never left me stranded.
Everyone wants 100,000 dollars worth of car but only wants to pay 20,000 for it....
Which is why a used Lexus LS is such an awesome choice. Even at 10+ years old, they're still the most reliable cars on the road.
+TruAgape1234 Yes, but a modern 100k car like the new S or 7 make the LS look, feel and drive like a Corrola.
+chamade166 Yes.
I would take the Lexus over the S class or 7 series any day of the week. Even if the LS was much older. They are just more dependable overall.
you high bro cars so sick.
I dont care Chrysler 200s and 300 are dope....hands down
I love my 15’ 200. Best car I’ve ever had.
I have had four of them actually. I love them actually. My first one was just the base model, then the c, then one limited actually. The last one I had was actually a 2016. I still have it actually.
@@679William why do so many people shit on the 2015 200s everyone says they r so unreliable? They r such clean cars I’m debating between a 200c and a Lincoln mkz
@@calebwillis4595 Same, I'm considering looking into a 200C AWD.
i guess it's pretty randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to watch newly released movies online ?
I personally don't like the brake lights and the turn signals in the same bulb unless it's LED because it's more noticeable and me personally more safer. Chrysler should have put an LED on the 200 from Factory.
I think the lights are fine, yes they could have put led light bulbs but for the brake lights you have a "third brake light" in the back window.
yeah but its a cheap design and less safe than having a seperate bulb for the turn signal
DAMN BRO WHY DID U BUY IT YOUR JUST HATING ON YOUR OWN CAR
Fr like why even make a vid
The thing with the rear turn signals is because of outdated US regulations. The new 2016 Chevrolet Malibu has the same thing. The blank clear/white area right next to the reverse light is where the amber turn signal would be in international markets. But due to outdated US lighting regulations that regulate the size of the turn signal, that area is too small so Chrysler was unable to put an amber turn signal there. It bothers me too. If this car were to go on sale in say, Europe, there would be an amber turn signal there next to the reverse light. Shame that our government will not address the outdated laws because bmw just announced laser beam headlight tech that will not be available here.
The center piece looks and feels cheap? Dude, you drive a Chrysler, not a BMW.
lmfao
fuck you man the 200 is nicer than most bmw's I test drive cars all the time. Obviously it doesn't hold a stick to an M3 but I like the 200's interior FAR more than the M3's
I'd find a nice paint and repaint that piece if it bothered me that bad. Easy.
Not saying this because I'm a BMW owner but I got a 200c as a rental before. The interior is nice but nothing about it feels as solid and quality as a German car. Design and quality are not even close.
+2fast335i did anyon ever say it was a german? pay 30 more thoudand and I still have things to bitch about a BMW
Rented one of these for about a couple weeks. I agree with everything he said, the shifter being my number 1 issue. It most certainly has a delay that is quite noticeable, makes you look twice almost every time to make sure you actually selected a gear. Tactile feedback from a shift lever that physically moves through the gears is best imo.
the real question is what does he like about the car?
Lol 😂 I agree with the brake and rotary dial but I got used to it
Make sure you get the three ECM and TCM updates that Chrysler has released. I can attest that they do improve the 2-3 shift issue you've noted. I test drove a 2016 last week and had no problems with the 9-speed in S mode with the 3.6L V6. Burnt a lot of rubber on that test drive... and the dealer salesman was not complaining.
Edit: After the updates, make sure the dealer completes a "Quick Learn" cycle for the transmission. This retunes the gearing to your engine, after the software updates are completed. If you do that, your 200 transmission should be top-notch.
I've had my 200s for 5 months now. I like the shifter. It's different. I like the ebrake as well. More cars are going to that now. I don't like that 2nd to 3rd shift. It's so weird since all the other shifts are really smooth. I also agree about the brake lights. You'd think all the lights would be led these days. I heard they are a pain to replace too. I too dislike cars where the brake light doubles as a signal but I'll live. lol
they leave the led lights for the customers who opt in to the lighting package which gives you hid headlamps and led tails
+Frank La Gow I have the lighting package. The brake lights are still standard bulbs
Michael M what is 2nd to 3rd shift what does that do
At 21 sec. u can see a roach by his window in the car 😬
Omg! I saw it! 😂😂😂😂
😂💀
+Kaitlyn Grubbs kmsl
lmao what XD
I dont see it
what about the blind spot that can you can miss an airplane in?
Rented one of these - blind spot city.
Lol
mirrors.
no they're in the front of the mirrors lol
Hahaha!!!! ya there's a pretty good sized blind spot lol
I'm still getting 1 I don't give a darn
people hate on them because people love to hate on Chrysler. I've always had good luck with Chrysler. very refined mid size sedan. I would reccomend v6
I rented one and it was good car... I have to complain about the transmission though... Not bad when you're driving normal but if you're in the highway and you need to floor it it can't skip gears it has to downshift a few times and it's a little laggy. But honestly the 4cyl felt faster than it actually was. :))
I've owned the 200s for a little over a year now. About 8k miles. I'm not a big car person but if I had to complain I'd wish the 9-speed would be more responsive. The 295hp is there, but at times I have to pretty much take over with the paddle shifters so it'll downshift and go if I feel like speeding. Other than that, I enjoy the experience
Have you bought it? You like it?
Mysterious M 😂😂😂😂😂 hell naw!
Did you know about all of these downsides before you bought it? Did you test drive it or, at the least, sit in it and examine the car before you bought it?
I never buy a car without thoroughly checking it out and test driving it. These aren't downsides, just things I think could be addressed by Chrysler to make the car even better.
What salesman in his right mind would allow you to go on a reasonably long drive in a new car without him tagging along?
Ever been to a new car lot lately? Those salesmen don't know the meaning of space. They'll be all up on you like bees on honey. This may not sound economically feasible, but if you see a car that you're serious contemplating on buying rent one just like it from Hertz. Now you've got all the space you need. Here's another thought: if you need new tires and haven't got the money for them go rent a car. Take that rental car, swap all four tires and take it back. Now you've $400 worth of tires for $69.99. That's a joke of course. ;>]
You're so right about the salesmen these days, they're relentless. I understand they have a job to do and want to make a sale because that's how they make money but seriously, some people just want to look. If you want to look around anymore, you pretty much have to go when the dealer is closed! Now once in a while you'll get a good salesman who is more laid back but a lot of times, not so much.
+mhtube01 that's exactly what I do. I go when the dealer is closed. I've heard many stories that the salesmen hound you real good and they are like "we have this for blah blah blah" and other things like that.
I completely understand the turn signal aspect your talking about. Needs to be a law for separate amber indicators if you ask me.
READ THIS itll save you 8 minutes of your life. All this guy talks about is how he doesnt like how the car looks. Obviously if u want to buy this car you know how it looks like no real need to watch this video. He doesnt talk about performance at all.
You obviously didn't watch the video, I never said I don't like how the car looks. If you're wondering about performance, you should buy a performance car. Otherwise it has plenty of power and gets great gas mileage. Where's your video showing talking about performance and all of the facts about these cars? OH WAIT.
We have 10,000 miles on ours (200 C with every available option less the block warmer, we live in VA) and we haven't had any issues at all. It did ride really hard when we picked it up and found they had put 46lbs of pressure in the tires. Once deflated to 35 rides beautiful. It's the V6 and it is really pretty quick. Our other car is a G37 Coupe, six speed manual and I think the Chrysler is quicker. But no issues at all.
I have the Chrysler 200 Limited which I like. In my opinion the lag to switch gears with the rotary dial would happen regardless of shift mechanism. Its a delay by the computer which would happen with either design. The stick in the Charger was also not that good and has had its share of problems that only a few makers have fixed. Consumer Reports did a talk about it decently. In general its difficult to tell what gear you are in.
The thing I hate most about the car is actually related. Its when you slow down to a stop light and it turns green. There is a delay in shifting back into drive since it automatically takes it out of gear when you slow down. I think its related to the transmission as its relatively complex and a lot of grinding can happen if its not at the right RPM.
With the e-Brake, I am pretty sure it uses a vacuum line. It's not the most reliable solution. I actually like it as you get that futuristic locking noise and its easy to flip.
Oh I thought it was a vacuum line since it makes a suction noise when it's engaged.
just got a 2015 200s awd. v6, i love it. i do agree with the parking brake part!
I wanna get a 200 2015 fwd how do you like it and is the parts expensive?
@@linnellbrooks5711 i love how it drives honestly very smooth ride in my opinion and na boss average prices
@@jt3696 what do that mean boss average prices I’m confused?
I had audis, bmw, hondas, hyundais, dodge, ford mustang mach 1, chevy's and now I have a 2013 chrysler 200 and to tell you the truth I have no issues with it, I really love the big space inside that car, very roomy for legs.
Yep! I got a 2012 and I love the space inside. Luxurious look and room.. I even sat in the back of my car just to see how people would feel and shit there really is space back there too
I also hate the brake/indicator lights. They should be separate and the indicator light should be amber, it's not 1960 anymore. I find that this is pretty consistent throughout Chrysler products and I dislike all cars with such lights.
Owner of a 2012 Chrysler 200 and I’m really happy with it. Two things I plan on doing soon are a cold air intake and straight pipes. If anyone has other ideas for what I should do plz lemme know
this video is like "which 5 points i do not love about my 200"
i love the 200 and your 5 points are nothing to "hate"
2013 200 hardtop convertible....love it!!!
Thanks for making this vid! It really helps shoppers. I'm keeping the 200 on my shopping list still.
+Daniel Marrett Sure thing! Like I said in the video these are all pretty minor complaints. Overall I definitely recommend the car.
on another note, purchase the Mopar Vehicle protection plan warranty. I opted for the lifetime warranty. after the 36,000 manufacturer is up it only a 100 deductible for any work that needs to be done that includes o.e.m parts.
can you buy it after you purchase?
+Cornell Daniel yes you can.
Thanks for you video. I'm in love with (and considering buying) the new Pacifica and so far everything i've read/seen are rave reviews. Looking for hate on Chrysler I found your video. It is clear you do NOT hate your Chrysler. And I think they finally got their 9 speed fixed...
These cars get all-LEDs in back with the higher option packages. As these are budget-conscious family cars, yes there are going to be some cheap materials in there… The 8-speed is for RWD-based configurations, longitudinal engine layouts.. As the 200 is a traditional FWD-based transverse setup(even in AWD models), the 8-speed wouldn’t be a drop-in kind of deal. The car would need to be totally re-engineered to accept the ZF 8-speed.
Looking into buying one of these. Thanks for the info it’s nice to have two perspectives. I’m looking at the C model
I agree with the tail lights... nice LED but then the brake light is a bulb? Doesn't make sense, especially since the previous generation 200 had full led taillights/brake lights
TheReal NateDogg My point exactly. People say it's a stupid complaint but if this car is supposed to be leaps and bounds ahead of its predecessor, you would think they would have full LED brake lights like the old one. Other than that it really is a nice car, shame they gave up on it as well as the Dart.
Loves the car, but says "Hate" in the title of the video. Anyone just seeing the title, and not watching the video will get the wrong idea and avoid this car.
I rented a 200 last year with the 2.4 tigershark it had some good power to it more than enough to get me out on the freeway. One thing I liked about the car is when I used the Bluetooth it automatically stored my phones contacts however what I didn't like about the car was the low roof
U should be mad that out of all the cars you could have chosen, you got this....
+Josh R And what's so wrong with this car? It's among the nicest in it's class and is a well rounded car. I'm proud of this car, and when I want to feel like ten times more of a boss than you, I'll just get in my Challenger Scat Pack Shaker and get 100 thumbs up and smiles down the road. Thanks.
+mhtube01 josh is mad all he can buy is a metropass
+cgletts LOL good one, you're probably right
+Josh R You mad, bro? HAHAHA
mhtube01 challenger? Now you're talking... Idk I just don't like the 200 compared to other cars in the class.
Your Challenger looks awesome. Not I car for me anymore but back in my youth I had 69 Ford Mustang fastback with a 390 big block!
Nice!! I'm sure that was a fun car, those old Mustangs are my favorites. I like the new ones but there's just something about the original that draws me in.
The memory is perhaps better than the reality of how it was. Compared to modern build quality of your Challenger, my Mustang creaked and the heavy doors would sag on their hinges. The window were frameless and would leak in heavy rain and generate wind noise. And mine was only five years old with 36k miles when I bought it. Still there was plenty of thrill when you unleashed the big block if you had traction bars to hold the light rear end down. And I have a few good memories from the back seat!
+Daniel Marrett LOL that's great man. You're right though, cars today are built completely different from the old days, especially with the technology that's out there. People of my generation love the classics though, I think they're so cool. They certainly didn't drive like today's cars but it's just so neat to see what was around back then and how we've evolved. IMO though some of the styling of some classics just can't be beat.
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Great video! I too have owned my 200C for over a year and so far put 23k miles on it. Your 5 things that you hate, are spot on. The brake/turn signal lights really should have been LED and even surprised me that it wasn't after owning, I had assumed it was at first. The electronic emergency brake worries me, what happens if the battery dies and you need the brake since you lost power to everything else? It actually happened to me in a prior car, not enjoyable. But you can just press the gas and this releases without having to press the EBrake to release.
The rotary shifter would be more nice if the shifts were quicker and not take a second or so like it does. Plus the ZF 9speed, I actually have become to like it, but do agree the 8 speed is much more smooth. I've ridden in a RAM with the 8 speed and it's just way better. But I have learned to smooth out the 2 to 3 shift most of the time by getting rid of that extra annoying delay. I've found that a quicker start makes the computer eventually learn to smooth out that shift. But not all the time. ZF kept saying how they have been working with Chrysler and Honda on the computer programming to meet the American style of driving. I tried more of the European type of driving which means quicker get up to speeds and have found it has helped with smoothing out the 2-3 shift, but it appears only when the trans is warm. Not much help on when it's cold though, it's just rough. Hope this may help.
+Travis Powers I've noticed that it smooths out more when you give it more throttle from a start. Of course I don't beat on the car when it's cold, that's one of the worst things you can do for it, but it is a little rough when cold. I've gotten used to it too but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the 8 speed is better. Sounds like you drive your 200 quite a bit as well! I really can't complain, this really is a great daily driver. One thing about it that I am BEYOND impressed with is the brakes! My car's window sticker says it has heavy duty brakes and that certainly seems to be true because they have stood the test so far and feel just as strong as they did when new. I live in an area with very heavy traffic and do a fair amount of city driving so I've used these brakes pretty hard with lots of hard stops thanks to the crazies on the road today but they don't shimmy or anything. Thank you Chrysler for FINALLY not cheaping out on brakes! I've never understood why companies do that.
the old 200 tailights were all LESs.
+keri “KJ” ellerbe I know, my mom had a 2014 which was of course the last year of the old body style. That's one part about this car that doesn't make sense. I have a feeling Chrysler will address it during a mid cycle refresh in a few years. This car is so much more refined than the old ones otherwise.
+mhtube01 Just letting you know, Took my car to the dealer for an oil change 2 weeks ago. They also reprogrammed the TCM. It's a lot smoother now! The 2 to 3 shift, I keep waiting for it to shift hard and it's not. Well except when the trans is cold, but it's still not shifting anywhere near as hard when cold as it used to. Possible Chrysler has fixed the issue? I spent 2 weeks testing, I'll wait a while and see.
+Travis Powers Thanks for the update! I'll have to take mine in and have the same thing done!
The electronic parking brake is pretty ubiquitous on new cars nowadays - it's actually a good thing b/c a lot of driver don't pull it anywhere near hard enough. The big problem is that what happens when your battery is flat?
I own a 200c my self and there is a manual switch under the center console.
I have a 2015 S,v6. I'm from California and drove to Oklahoma. averaged 36.8mpg. I went full synthetic with a K&N air filter. to really get the most of it, go S mode on tranny and take it off traction control. and it's a must you use the paddle shifters!
You got the problems spot on with this vehicle. I own a C.
One more thing I would add to the hate list is: The ancient uconnect system. They are the crappiest system. Terrible gps as well. Too bad I can't upgrade to the 2016 model (siri eyes) and no android auto support. I have the safety tech and I am not sure I can just rip it all out and add an oem system since the climate control is inbuilt into the system.
They say for every roach you see, there's 100 more you don't see. Dude must have a bad roach problem if they come out in the daylight.
I just got a 2016 200C and i love it. Pretty suped up
You can set the display to show a small little number right next to the D (Drive) indicating the gear it's in. Nice to have but you'll notice the trans will never go into 9th unless cruising at an extremely illegal 75(?) mph.
I just bought a 2015 Chrysler 200C and I'm in love with it. I bought it with a salvage title due to a low flood (nothing had to be replaced under the hood. Only interior replacements) and I got it for a killer deal. Only $10k. But I'm getting horrible gas mileage because I always want to drive it fast haha.
Have fun with electrical issues in a few years!
+Lexusguy0525 hahaha I'm a red head actually. But you're right. I don't know much about cars at all. Still a great car! I only plan on having it for another year then I'll buy something else.
@@sheripie5 how was it did you have any problems
The eight speed transmission is for rear wheel drive and is older and better developed. The nine speed is front wheel drive and brand new, some development time and consumer feedback is needed. Agree that it should have been given more time, but the new 200 was launched a bit early to quell the demand and expectations of the marketplace. My 2015 Jeep Cherokee has a V-6 and nine speed and so far I have had no issues whatsoever. I love the electronic parking brake. Valid point on the tail lights, less so the gear shift. My choice would be the traditional design in my Cherokee. Think the shift knob will go bye, bye just like the old unit on my 2012 Chrysler 300, which I "hate", in a car I absolutely LOVE.
+Bill Burke That makes sense since all of the cars that use the 8 speed are all RWD biased and some are 4WD. That is an excellent transmission, I've driven a few Chrysler products with it and love it. The 9 speed should get better with age, my car is in fact the first model year and I really don't have reason to question it's reliability so far which I'm happy about. I just wish most of the American manufacturers would do away with that turn signal design personally, I'm not crazy about it. I do really like this car though, I'm going to make a video about the top 5 things I love about it.
Never mind as they are discontinuing the 200 line this year
They really can't put the 8 speed in that. The 8 speed is a rear wheel drive transmission so it won't fit transversely mounted.
I think one thing i hate about my. 200s is that they were supossed to be driven for small people. Im 6 feet and infeel sometimes i dont fit on it. I really love all 3
i drove this car for 3 days while on holiday and a major flaw for me was no blind spot mirror on the drivers side.
thats why its called a fucking blind spot ray
I mean the old 200 had the LED tail lights but why did they go back to the light bulb?
That's exactly my point, I dont understand why they did that. Glad somebody sees my point of view instead of calling me a whiner and that I don't drive a BMW lol. I was in fact picking at a few things in this video but people just dont get that. That's the internet for you though.
I agree. I love my 200s v6 AWD. I watched this cuz I thought I'd never be able to come up with 5 things I dislike. I agree with most of what you said. piano veneer would look good. I personally like the dial. I'm glad they have safeguards because when I first had the car I was driving along and I went to turn the volume down and I actually turned the dial to park while driving 80... thank God there's a safeguard cuz I almost shit my pants when it happened. Anyways great video!
A lot of people say I'm asking too much with my gripe about the plastic instead of piano veneer or wood trim but the previous 200 (which was essentially an updated Sebring) had veneer trim around the infotainment system. This car has far superior build quality so idk why they couldn't have at least put that in the nicer trim models, I can't imagine it would be THAT much more expensive. Yikes that sounds scary, I always wondered what would happen if someone did that so good to know! Thanks for watching!
This guy ROFL. I thought I was gonna watch a serious 5 things not a deva cry.
I think the car is great cause I have a 2012 Chrysler 200 myself. Yes there are I am sure plenty of things Chrysler could have done better with this car but other than that for a mid-size car of its kind it is a pretty fast car and has a lot of space.
My mom had a 2014 200S for almost a year before I got my 2015 so it was cool to drive that one first and then compare it to mine to see just how new and different the redesign is. The old one got a lot of criticism from auto reviewers who called it a fancy Sebring and all that but I still liked it, it was way better than the Sebring but it did have some serious torque steer with the V6! I love the new one though, it is a great car and you get a lot for your money. I will admit mine hasn't been perfect, being an early 2015 build it's had a few problems but they've all been taken care of without worry and have pretty much been all electrical glitches and nothing serious like an engine or transmission.
Dash will crack with in 5 years
Yea you right idk why is the signal lights isnt l e d
Tail lights and transmission I agree, everything else is fine imo.
Disagree lol that dash is plain hideous and those 9 speeds are junk just go read up on the problems they have
+matthew von I've had mine for over a year and a half and I have 0 problems
I just bought a ‘15 and I love it, it drives smooth and as for the gear mine doesn’t lag
How is it now?
@@kenyahcooks4937 still going good no problems
@@Revenant-BotsOfDeath was it used or néw how do you feel about this being someone first car ?
I can’t imagine owning this car 4-6 years from now when all those electrical components are failing
Mines holding up fine
Props on limiting it to 5!! They are called 200 for a reason. For every $1000 you paid, you get $200 back when you trade it in. :)
Dont know what ur talking about. The inside of that car is very nice, very simplistic & modern. However, the problems with that car is internal/mechanical , not the interior. Imjs
We have a 2015 Chrysler Town and Country and one of the things I cannot stand is the Uconnect system.
I cannot agree more on #3.
they couldn't put the 8HP in the 200. The 8HP is a longitudal design and the 9HP is transverse. however they should be updating firmware to what the Pacifica uses, first drive reviews are saying it's perfect now. but talk about issues, the DDCT in the Dart... my mom has a very early build 2013 MY that has had about 10 reflashes and "recalls" to get the tuning right and one even nuked the output shaft or the secondary clutch causing a replacement of the entire DDCT. it's been amazing since they got it right.
Yeah someone else pointed that out. The DDCT was crap in the Dart from the get go. I drove one and it was fun in manual mode but wow was it confused in auto mode. I had a 2013 Dart Rallye Turbo with the Manual and that was a lot of fun. The 6 speed Powertech automatic trans has been good from what I understand.
I have the same issues. but my is that when I decelerate my car sometimes skip 2nd gear so it does a type of hick up. but other then that I love it..
Mine too I took mine in for some some repairs told them to check transmission was told everything was fine so idk.
don't forget you bought a spruced up rental car
+Bargainteers Oh I didn't forget, that's why a lot of people like it. And it has best in class power and infotainment system. Do you trolls listen to yourselves? smh
+mhtube01
I definitely agree with you. Hands don't best power train and especially the uconnect.
Don't forget that this car is an IIHS top safety pick plus. This is a great car. if you don't own one don't talk crap. Go hop back in your 03 Honda civic and leave
+Bargainteers thats about 99% of cars ppl buy so....
Rated top 10 best interiors, 506 watt alpine, 295 HP, 8.4 inch uconnect and your gonna still call it a spruced up rental car lmao your a joke
I have the 2015 C AWD 2nd to third is a bump moment so I agree with your assessment. Mine also has the paddle shifter... Im 50 and have no clue how to use it. I've tried it and it works but i'm used to a clutch and not sure how to drive it when I need to down shift.
I own a 2015 base model; here’s my comments on his issues.
#1 - I like the gear selector, but it’s a pain if you need to put it N to move the vehicle if it’s dead. You have to remove the rubber pad on the bottom center storage area, pop the cover off using a key or flathead, pull the metal shaft into a upright position using the tiny rope attached to it. You might have to press the brake pedal down while deactivating the parking brake to move the vehicle. To disengage, pull the rope on the rod towards the rear of the vehicle and release; it should fall back into its original position but you may need to press down on it to make sure it’s secure.
#2 and #3 - no problem with the parking break, and I love the tail lamps, especially at night.
#4 - I don’t have the same stereo and center piece, but the one on the base model and the touch screen is a bit bland.
#5 - the shifting can be a bit jerky/jumpy, especially coming off a stop. You have to real press down soft other wise you’ll feel it jump. It feels similar to being with a driver learning to drive stick.
I do like my 200, but I’m having similar issues as others have with it dying on me and can’t figure out why. It starts up fine, but once I get down the street it dies when coming to a stop. Replaces the battery and had the alternator and starter tested. The red lighting bolt comes on and the car reacts but once I pull over and turn it off and back on, it’s fine. The extended warranty is worth looking into adding if you’re buying this car (or any used car really).
Good luck putting an ZF 8hp into a FWD car!
Hey man, is it expensive to maintain? I'm thinking about getting one.
I have one, and I haven't had any issues. I can get from Northeast Ohio to Washington, D.C. on one tank of gas. So, to answer your question - they are cheap to own.
blackshardy I had one for a year and a half now and no problem whatsoever. good car for me
Well I hate when it jumps a little switching gears but I was told my transmission was fine at dealership.
Mine did that sometimes. The 2nd to 3rd gear shift I always thought was the worst programmed part of the transmission with the acception of when you'd accelerate harder then back off, it would slam into a higher gear.
It could just be the spark plugs. I pulled mine out at 60 thousand miles for my 200, they were pretty much toast. Don’t wait until 100 thousand miles like the car suggests to do your spark plugs. It’s too long. Switch out your ignition coils too around every 60-70 thousand miles too.
@@mhtube01 yes mine is from 2nd to 3rd as well
@@rebelcave8556 oh ok thanks for the advice I will mention this to my mechanic when I take it in for wheel bearing lol
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You should do it yourself. It’s awesome. Easy too. You can look cool under the hood. You just need a 5/8 spark plug ratchet and a 10 mm wrench. Some dielectric grease too for the coils.
Have you guys found that it vibrates more than average?
Thanks for posting. Was looking at these.
i own 200s v-6. i agree the 9speed transmission is my biggest issue. just like u said shifting from 2nd to third gear it hangs there and abrubtly shifts into 3rd. i prefer driving in sports mode all of the time. drives and shifts much better. i guess u lose alittle gas mileage but it drives so much better.
Totally agree with you, it's amazing how it's such a different car in sport mode. I really don't know why that 2nd to 3rd shift is like that, but it's exactly how you described.
Glad you like your car. It was odd seeing a car going 45mph only revving at 1600 rpms...that is the whole reason for a 9 speed I guess.
Yup, it's definitely geared for efficiency. If you put it in Sport mode though, it's a totally different car. In Drive, it's much more conservative. It does get very good fuel mileage, especially for a V6 with almost 300 hp and AWD.
+wiibaron Try going 72 mph down the highway at roughly that same RPM too. The 9 speed does keep rpms really low.
+Steven Kenniff Sucks its gonna be dead next year. Sales are dying off, so FCA is killing it off with the dart
I've already got mine. It's a classy car for the money, but they definitely were hard up on sales. The Chrysler name died along with the bankruptcy 7 years ago unfortunately.
Chrysler has a software update available for the transmission. You might want to see if that fixes your issues with the 9 speed. I also have the 200c, and the transmission is my number one gripe, because it shifts rough. My parents have a Cherokee with the same transmission, and it does the same.
Yeah I've had it updated but it still didn't fix it unfortunately. The service manager said the shifts like the 2nd-3rd shift are just normal characterstics for this transmission. The 8 speed ZF in other Chrysler products is a much better transmission but it's for RWD biased use, not FWD biased like this car so they couldn't use it.
I knew you would say something about the 9spd auto. My wife and I test drove a Jeep Cherokee with the 9spd and it was so weird. It felt really unsure. I like your car, though. I gave this car a lot of thought when car shopping last year. The AWD option is nice.
Yeah it does seem confused at times, on the other hand the combination of power and fuel economy is awesome. It behaves so much better in sport mode. What did you end up getting?
Something in a different class and style from the 200. Ford Fiesta ST. Excellent MPG and really a fun car to drive...just small. Much smaller than a 200.
Did test drive not clue you in on gear selector and parking brake???
I like the elegant look of the new 200, but heard the backseat isn't wide enough?
That's weird, the backseat is nice in this car. I've never had anyone complain who has sat back there. It's wider than the old 200 was
+mhtube01 Thanks!
People in these comments love to talk crap about a car they have no clue about. 1st gen 200's had many problems, yes, but that gen was just thrown out to give them time to build what they really wanted. the 2015 200 had issues as well, but it was the first of that model, it's to be expected. the 16 and 17 200 were almost perfect but by then, the damage was done and sales were too low to continue building them. Very underrated car, I love my 2016 S...I give 5.0s a run for their money...
Yup, that's always how it goes. They basically took the Sebring, which was a garbage car, gave it a complete overhall with some new engines and called it the 200. For what it was, it's wasn't terrible. The 2015 was a far superior car in every way but I think the 9 speed transmission and the issues that came with it were really what gave it a bad reputation. I know the 4 cylinder has had a lot of problems too that they haven't had with the V6. I have 54,500 miles on mine right now and the engine has been the most trouble free part of the car so far. People need to remember that these are man made machines, they're not going to be perfect, especially in their first year of production.
Hi, Maybe you should change the Title to ..5 things that could be changed on the Chrysler 200..... By reading the comments on here, you can tell a lot of people didn't watch the video or listened to you....As you don't hate the car, its just things that could be better......A buddy of mine owns one and loves it, he was a Acura & BMW owner since the 1990's..and loves this car !! As for the idiot comments on here,I bet everyone has something they don't like on their own car...I am a car guy and have some cars I love but I say to myself if this was a little different here and there it would be better, but its not that big of a deal or a deal at all..and still would buy another and recommend it to others !
I've already changed the title twice but I like the way you worded it here, so I just might do that. Many other RUclipsrs who own some awesome cars have made this exact same type of video and received a ton of hate. It really is ridiculous how many people just have nothing better to do than hate in the comments because they didn't watch the video or read the description! Thank you for actually commenting after watching, you understand my points here!
Gonna say this in the nicest way possible. Didn't you see the negatives of this car before buying it? If the things here poss you off or your hate list, why even bother buying it. It doesn't make sense
+Pedro Galarza Hate is a relative term, they're things I wish Chrysler would update in the future. I don't see them as big negatives for the car, just certain things I personally don't care for. I'm the kind of guy who likes to look at the positive side of things, and the strengths of this car far outweigh the weaknesses. It was the perfect car for me when I bought it, it fit my budget, and I don't regret it at all.
+mhtube01 cool. Enjoy it. I drove it and I have to agree only on the infotainment dash bugged me looked cheap
lmao this model is base on Italian car that's why i love it
Chrysler is cooperate with italy since 2013 i guess so this is why Chrysler is doing nice model
Totally agree!
I haven't had a chance to see the lights so I can't comment on #3. I'll have to take another look, but I never noticed #4. Mine might be different though as I have the Wood Accent/Trim.
#2 is the one I hate. In fact, I would consider it a safety issue as it makes it impossible to pump the parking brake in the (albeit unlikely) event your regular brakes fail. A hand brake is best.
#5 is the other one I really don't like. I would think being entirely computerized, Chrysler could (and should) be able to fix this with a software update and smooth out the shifts.
Mine does the same thing dosnt go into gear and it's annoying plus when u press the break it feels like it goes forward alittle.
we were only able to watch 5 minutes of it and me and my workers were all laughing at you, it's all good pal. I have a 2015 200 sport and I love it.
Yes I have a 2015 200s and am in love - I would love to put window tint and new exhaust on it at the moment
+LmrichGaming I have 75% tint and my 200 S is black it looks great, I got a new exhaust and air intake and got it to 330 HP the car moves... Can't forget about that sport mode
We just purchased a 2016 200. I agree on the interior they really went all out but on ours we got the 5.0 radio and it's like they just had something plain laying around and threw it in there. Just very generic blah looking IMO.
Why did you buy it then🤦🏽♂️buy one with all u like
From my own personal experience with the 2015 Chrysler 200, I would say it's honestly probably the worst car anyone could pick to drive. I bought one in August of 2015 in black (200s) with the V6. The car pulled well for 3500lbs and 295hp. I was driving on the interstate one day and the car completely shut off on me. Nothing worked. So I manually popped the hood and looked at its internals to see if I could notice a problem. Nothing. Sat back in the car and called the dealer and then the car started to work again. When I say work, I mean the electricity and lights cut back on. Day or so later the same thing happened but this time I was parked. Had the piece of shit towed into Chrysler and they said the electrical wiring harness was bad. Got it replaced in about a month, in that time I drove the exact same car around as a rental. Got my car back, brought it back to the dealer within 2 days for the same problem. This time I was lucky enough for it to work again and ballsy enough to drive it to the dealership. Engine wiring harness apparently was bad too. Eventually Chrysler called me and said there's been a large recall on the electric and engine wiring harnesses. I was in my rental 200 from I'd say September 2015 to January 2016. They finally deemed the car a lemon and junked it. I was given a matching msrp from Chrysler to use on another Chrysler product after this. I ended up getting a 2016 Charger R/T and it is the best car I've ever purchased. It's unbelievable how awful the 200 is all together regardless of what model you have compared to the charger. You get so much more of a car. Good luck with that car. I'm glad it's being discontinued in 2017, along side the Dart and Viper unfortunately. Most of the "dislikes" ya have for this car are just reasons in my head why I truly hate the 200 and all these dislikes honestly lead to it's downfall. Chrysler wasn't ready for a 9 speed.
its not being discontinued.
it was a limited edition that's why
+Sophia Lanza the 200, and dart are being discontinued for 2017. The viper is being discontinued for 2018.
+Michael oh ok, I thought u were talking about the 200
+Michael it's ending bc it's limited edition, not bc it's a bad car
You got your third breaklight
I own the 2015 200C fully loaded and I can say I hate the crappy 8" Alpine sub.. I'm replacing mines with a Kicker 40CWD82.. Another thing I hate is the rear deck that rattles from the 3rd break light tapping the Window from bass (which I will be sound deadning).. One more thing, the wiring is fucked up in my car.. I have to keep replacing fuses for my sunroof and auto rain sensing wipers, which I know it's a recall on that actually now I think about it! But yea those would be my complaints! You should've gotten the 200C, mines wood grain playa!
This one is a 200C and has the wood grain trim. You can get upgraded perforated leather seats with a chrome ring around the steering wheel, two tone color schemes, plus other electronics this one doesn't have. So I have one of the top trim levels but it doesn't have every option. They had a black one with every option but it was too expensive for me at the time so I got this one which has all of the options I would ever really need or want. You should take yours to a dealer and get the wiring fixed. I think the sub is plenty loud enough lol it rattles the trunk which does get a little annoying. My Challenger had the 18 speaker Harmon-Kardon system and that has 2 subs in the trunk but nothing rattles. I don't keep the bass up though, I hate crazy sub systems personally. If the sound isn't equalized, it's going to bother me. Overall I really like my car, I really had to think to come up with these complaints which are pretty minor.
+mhtube01 mines came out to be around $35,000, but It's all about knowing the right person plus negotiating.. Brought it down to $28,819. I also had them give me the best tint money can buy, the UV Ray tint. it does a damn good job keeping out heat but it still gets hot during the summer but not as hot. I was watching CES 2016 and Apple car play and Android Play coming this summer
Whats better a nissan altima 2015 or this car?
Sorry about all the hateful comments. I guess us Mopar (and especially Chrysler) guys can be really defensive since everyone tells us our cars suck :(
Lol I couldn't care less really, the haters are always going to hate. I can't say these 200s are Chrysler's best car because they certainly aren't. It's a shame too because they could have been a turning point for the company along with cars like the Dodge Dart to get away from their generally poor mid-2000s reputation. This car actually got wrecked in November 2018 and I can't complain too much about it because it did everything it was supposed to and protected me very well. It certainly had it's quirks when it was around though. I don't think Chrysler deserves the bad reputation they have with so many people. My family has owned several cars from them and they have been good overall. Their transmissions are definitely not what they used to be but their engines are overall solid, especially the HEMIs. They had a few problems when they came back out but the 2007 and up ones are good. The Pentastar V6 was also the least problematic part of this car.
I love the Chrysler 200
So basically, you don’t like nothing major
Isn't the 9 speed a in house gearbox and the 8 speed is a ZF, that's probably why it's better
Yes you are correct. Chrysler has put out a transmission reprogram for these which should apply to mine since it was an early 2015 build and I've heard it smooths out the shifts a lot and fixes the weird quirks I don't care for. I'm taking it in for an oil change and tire rotation tomorrow and going to see if they can actually do that too.
I hate the roach
The 2013 Chrysler 200 S has piano vainer around the infotainment center. Lots more appealing.
Yeah I forgot about that, my mom had a 2014 200 S that had the same finish. Otherwise the 2015 interior is much nicer and higher quality. I wish mine had the dark ash wood trim around the screen like it does on the doors and the gauges.
is one of them the fact that it will have only 29% of sticker value in 5 years?