Great discussion. Thank you for championing womens' aging. I'm 57 and have noticed I've become more invisible and I love it because with more invisibility is more freedom. I don't care to impress anyone by my looks and love to move around in the world unbothered and feeling free.
I am 73 and notice that having vanished from turning heads some five years ago , I have felt gratitude that I was noticed for so many years , although never photogenic . I learnt as a young women that if the men you love don’t see you as *you and respect the *you beyond the looks then your not truly loved , from the looks perspective and sexual attraction being the main reason to love a women will for sure end badly , some men are very limited , women who stay with men like that are also limited . This obsession with one’s looks and the disappointment of discovering you have not met a man of depth is the learning curve that hurts the most. *it is not discovering your getting older therefor you are not worth loving ,which is utter nonsense. If you know what love is you know that no age limit exists*
I'm currently on a streak of her interviews bc I find her point of view very fascinating and inspiring. she never talks badly about her husband who has passed even though she has reason to do so, which is very kind of her. but I can't help but remark that he was 40 and she was 19 when they first met. she doesn't (to my knowledge) problematize that fact in her interviews and their marriage lasted for a very long time, so the situation isn't black and white. but she did mention the attractiveness of naivité in young girls to men. that fact is very true in my own experience and so, so heartbreaking.
Wow! What a interview. So much wisdom and beauty in both of you! I'm a bit blown away. This is something more people need to hear and dear to live. Thank you Paulina for being so vulnerable and honest! Sending you so much love. 🤍🤍🙏🙏
I recall a black and white photo of Georgia O'keefe in profile, handling a lump of clay. She was in her nineties I think, her face wrinkled, her hair in that iconic bun, her long beautiful hands, wrinkled too....how beautiful I thought ( I was 14). I've always thought old women were beautiful.....not least of which my beloved grandmother, wrinkled, blissfully fat (I loved her whole body hugs!, soft and enveloping!)...and a fabulous laugh ....that still lightens my heart to recall it...
I really really love Paulina. She is sincere in the first place, and full of affection with a very big heart. I love listening to every single word she's telling, she's equivalent of Audrey Hepburn in my opinion, beauty, elegance, a sensible heart and love in her eyes for every living creature. Thank you for having this chat, sending you both love💗🌺💙💚
i Love the way older woman today are starting to embrace their natural aging process, and express their beauty in ways that makes them feel and look attractive and fabulous despite the wrinkles and aging changes. I know as a 65 year old woman I totally enjoy women who are embracing and expressing their older beauty and having fun with, whether it is with make up or clothing or healthy lifestyles. And are teaching and sharing their ideas and techniques, thoughts and experiences.
I haven't read her book; I've only recently really started paying attention to Paulina Porizkova, although she's been one of the familiar features of the pop-culture environment since my teens. Usually, I'm not that interested in celebrity memoirs, but having watched this interview (the interviewer is excellent) and other talks she's done, I'm more interested in what she has to say. Having grown up watching a lot of foreign and artsy movies, I think my earliest memory of her (apart from MTV, crying in the Cars video "Drive") is actually the film "Anna," a great, very moving movie about an aging actress who ends up getting kind of inadvertently pushed aside by a beautiful young refugee girl (played by Poriskova) she's taken under her wing. I wonder if she ever thinks about that film or makes any mention of it in her book. It's so fascinating to me now because I think the core themes, and the tensions and love and animosity between the two central characters, are perfectly relevant to the issues that she's now bringing into the public discourse. I'd be so interested to hear her discuss possible meanings and interpretations of the story, like how it reflects how women of all ages end up suffering when these two intrinsic aspects of womanhood (the wisdom of age and beauty of youth) are divided and pitted against each other. She has a disarming openness and quiet bravery in the way she speaks about and explores these topics which have been relegated to the shadows, and I really appreciate it so much, because I feel less alone facing and dealing with them. I really give kudos to her and the interviewer both.
Wonderful interview - finding beauty in all types of people and taking the time to listen and have patience....sometimes just 5 more minutes ... fabulous and true ❤
Nothing is unforgivable when we expand our ability to forgive. Forgiving doesn't mean you make the action acceptable, it just releases you from your suffering, Paulina. I know a lot about forgiveness, as I've had to learn to forgive a lot, as well as ask to be forgiven when I made a lot of bad mistakes in my life. Forgiveness is crucial, Paulina, and i would encourage you to work harder at it for your own well being. If I may help, I would glad share all I know for free and recommend some good books on the subject for you. Thank you for the interview Tami. I really didn't like your negative comments about men, but I forgive you.
Great interview...thank you. I wonder too, how much is biologically wired into us. Not just procreation...but what we see as beautiful. I remember as a little girl, being really attracted to certain characters on TV because I thought they were beautiful. I was very young...so I wouldn't have been programmed yet to know what was considered beautiful in society....nor would I have been influenced by my peers. I'm 64, so in my childhood, there was no social media that would have molded my views. Not sure if commercials would have played a part or not in my young age. I am an artist, so I try to see beauty in all things. I will confess though...when I look in the mirror, my neck and platysma bands really bother me... even while I'm telling myself that nothing is good or bad but for thinking so... yet it's still hard to override the internal judgement and shame emotions. I love the idea of Paulina helping direct a new approach to modeling and the beauty industry ... there are many, many of us that want that.
She is right. even the young ones can’t attain the beauty standard they can for a while and then it all falls apart as we get onto our late 30’s. It’s kind of crazy because even if I see a young beautiful woman I just think for now.
I am 55. Beauty is not only defined by men. It is also defined overall as able, thin, & white. That is, & has been the societal standard. Thumbnail is me at 53. A retired actress / singer. Wheelchair, & crutch user. From birth. I grew up knowing from a very early age. 1. That I was beautiful, & 2. That I was not supposed to be. The reactions. The shock, & bias, attached to the use of a chair. While looking like I did. Were just so pronounced. I could not miss them. Literal cartoon like reactions. As I got older. I realized what was causing such dissonance. Generally as a group. As part & parcel of the overarching bias. We are at once infantilized, & asexualized. All that said. I was not feeling, or necessarily seeing myself that way. I was the only wheelchair user ln class. (1975 ) It was about that same time. ln music class. I also was singled out for my voice. I sang songs at home. with my mother. As she played guitar. Until the music teacher stopped everything. Asked me to sing alone, & put me in the talent show. I had no idea, that not everyone. Could sing. Nor that once again. I was shattering the box. They kept trying to shove me into. Societal boxes are all around us. They are nothing new. The question / choice is. Will you conform. Keeping yourself small. Uniform. For the comfort of others. Choosing cookie cutter definitions. Instead of your own. Or. Be yourself. A flawed, complex, beautifully unique. Multi-faceted. Human.
We’ll said Paulina, we’ll thought out, the intricacies of how this plays out, under the radar, in regards to men’s psychological reasonings (lol), but well done, excellently thought out reasonings and motivations of men and how this plays out by them, in life. ✅😀 Wow, v true (little chuckle) .
I'm sure that Rick's wife felt invisible when Paulina started her affair with him when she was a teenager and he was in his forties. I'm sure she felt even more invisible when Rick divorced her to marry Paulina. Granted, Paulina is the most beautiful supermodel that I have ever seen.
View of beauty is biological largely. There is the flower of youth and fertility / strength and there is the beauty of crone / sage wisdom. They are different, and wise women and men will accept the transition and not expect to be seen the same way their whole lives.
We’re 60 plus, but have no gray hair. Well maybe a few strays in the bangs, which we occasionally put in a wash in rinse, golden highlights or a red tint. And we use it now and then, be it’s such a gorgeous glow, have been told. But, we have v few gray hairs and know a 40 yr old young lady, actually in her 30’s, had some gray hairs where we didn’t. Today, sh3 has a lot more gray hairs in the crown, but she’s v pretty and a nice person. But, the point….gray hair, for example, apparently, is all relative. Their 20 yrs younger than us and they have more gray hairs than us. We only have a few strays. So, it’s relative, can’t really put an age on it, specifically, necessarily.
I would buy a beauty product from someone who looks like Paulina - because I would believe it more - as she has way less wrinkles than me! - the gap between me and the worked on face of a JLo is so vast I wouldn’t believe it.
there is so much more to being a women then what they look like> We are fellow human beings trying to get through the day like everyone else. give us a break!!!
Just enjoy compliments....many cannot and do not want to spend time and money on their looks as they age. This is a conversation that could shame many older people. And one can lose looks and style if one is battle weary - and so what?
A great number people on Earth are overly critical of others (a lot are haters)…not everybody deserves to know what goes on in your life…so choose wisely. JUST IGNORE THOSE TROLL GOBLINS AND LIVE YOUR LIFE TO THE VERY BEST YOU CAN!!! Haha!😁❤️🙏
I am a 62 year old man and I am becoming MORE attractive each day. Every day women stop and stare at me, ask me for my phone number, invite me to have drinks or even, the creepy ones, directly proposition me. And it’s just getting worse as I age. If they are very young I check their ID to make sure that they are over 18, but I’m worrying that some might be borrowing their big sister’s. It’s so much stress.
Good question to Paulina, Moderator. We have an answer, that immediately came up! Answer, True Answer: The Lover of our Souls, as His child, His daughters….The Lord….our dear Heavenly Father, our Creator and our beloved….Our Lord Jesus Christ, and his plan, who gave His Life For us. How many men have done that? Ty
I love this woman. I am close to her age and understand many of the things she speaks about. Her brains are just as great as her beauty.
Iam glad someone else thinks brains and heart’s are important in life not just beautiful faces 👍
I agree~
@@denicepeterson626 Thank you. She seems to be so forgotten now. It's sad.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Great discussion. Thank you for championing womens' aging. I'm 57 and have noticed I've become more invisible and I love it because with more invisibility is more freedom. I don't care to impress anyone by my looks and love to move around in the world unbothered and feeling free.
I am 73 and notice that having vanished from turning heads some five years ago , I have felt gratitude that I was noticed for so many years , although never photogenic . I learnt as a young women that if the men you love don’t see you as *you and respect the *you beyond the looks then your not truly loved , from the looks perspective and sexual attraction being the main reason to love a women will for sure end badly , some men are very limited , women who stay with men like that are also limited . This obsession with one’s looks and the disappointment of discovering you have not met a man of depth is the learning curve that hurts the most.
*it is not discovering your getting older therefor you are not worth loving ,which is utter nonsense. If you know what love is you know that no age limit exists*
so much for us men to learn of your conversation...grateful
I'm currently on a streak of her interviews bc I find her point of view very fascinating and inspiring. she never talks badly about her husband who has passed even though she has reason to do so, which is very kind of her. but I can't help but remark that he was 40 and she was 19 when they first met. she doesn't (to my knowledge) problematize that fact in her interviews and their marriage lasted for a very long time, so the situation isn't black and white. but she did mention the attractiveness of naivité in young girls to men. that fact is very true in my own experience and so, so heartbreaking.
Wow! What a interview. So much wisdom and beauty in both of you! I'm a bit blown away. This is something more people need to hear and dear to live. Thank you Paulina for being so
vulnerable and honest! Sending you so much love. 🤍🤍🙏🙏
Just turned 50 last month and these women speak to me and are challenging my own views on ageing.
I recall a black and white photo of Georgia O'keefe in profile, handling a lump of clay. She was in her nineties I think, her face wrinkled, her hair in that iconic bun, her long beautiful hands, wrinkled too....how beautiful I thought ( I was 14). I've always thought old women were beautiful.....not least of which my beloved grandmother, wrinkled, blissfully fat (I loved her whole body hugs!, soft and enveloping!)...and a fabulous laugh ....that still lightens my heart to recall it...
That’s beautiful bonesj
I really really love Paulina. She is sincere in the first place, and full of affection with a very big heart. I love listening to every single word she's telling, she's equivalent of Audrey Hepburn in my opinion, beauty, elegance, a sensible heart and love in her eyes for every living creature. Thank you for having this chat, sending you both love💗🌺💙💚
Paulina is such an inspiration for women. ❤
i Love the way older woman today are starting to embrace their natural aging process, and express their beauty in ways that makes them feel and look attractive and fabulous despite the wrinkles and aging changes. I know as a 65 year old woman I totally enjoy women who are embracing and expressing their older beauty and having fun with, whether it is with make up or clothing or healthy lifestyles. And are teaching and sharing their ideas and techniques, thoughts and experiences.
Tami and paulina are both beautiful and make me feel my best!
I haven't read her book; I've only recently really started paying attention to Paulina Porizkova, although she's been one of the familiar features of the pop-culture environment since my teens. Usually, I'm not that interested in celebrity memoirs, but having watched this interview (the interviewer is excellent) and other talks she's done, I'm more interested in what she has to say.
Having grown up watching a lot of foreign and artsy movies, I think my earliest memory of her (apart from MTV, crying in the Cars video "Drive") is actually the film "Anna," a great, very moving movie about an aging actress who ends up getting kind of inadvertently pushed aside by a beautiful young refugee girl (played by Poriskova) she's taken under her wing. I wonder if she ever thinks about that film or makes any mention of it in her book. It's so fascinating to me now because I think the core themes, and the tensions and love and animosity between the two central characters, are perfectly relevant to the issues that she's now bringing into the public discourse. I'd be so interested to hear her discuss possible meanings and interpretations of the story, like how it reflects how women of all ages end up suffering when these two intrinsic aspects of womanhood (the wisdom of age and beauty of youth) are divided and pitted against each other. She has a disarming openness and quiet bravery in the way she speaks about and explores these topics which have been relegated to the shadows, and I really appreciate it so much, because I feel less alone facing and dealing with them. I really give kudos to her and the interviewer both.
What a beautiful interview.
Even though I’m a French speaker, I appreciate follow the speech of Rhodes two womens. Smart, benevolent, funny.
Wonderful interview - finding beauty in all types of people and taking the time to listen and have patience....sometimes just 5 more minutes ... fabulous and true ❤
This is a wonderful interview! Thank you both!
Good for you Paulina. A great interview!!
loved this convo. something that came to mind was some interview from Julia Fox where she said being a girl in your 20's is the fu*kin trenches.
Good for you Paulina in saying the Truth of how offensive it is to hear that statement!
Wonderful conversation
Nothing is unforgivable when we expand our ability to forgive. Forgiving doesn't mean you make the action acceptable, it just releases you from your suffering, Paulina. I know a lot about forgiveness, as I've had to learn to forgive a lot, as well as ask to be forgiven when I made a lot of bad mistakes in my life. Forgiveness is crucial, Paulina, and i would encourage you to work harder at it for your own well being. If I may help, I would glad share all I know for free and recommend some good books on the subject for you. Thank you for the interview Tami. I really didn't like your negative comments about men, but I forgive you.
Bless you Paulina ✨✨✨✨
I have grey hair, it makes me happy 🌸🌼
Fantastic! Thank you x
Wow I did the same thing in middle school I wrote little plays and we acted them out ❤❤ also a ferocious reader
So did I! I was shocked when she said that.
Great interview...thank you. I wonder too, how much is biologically wired into us. Not just procreation...but what we see as beautiful. I remember as a little girl, being really attracted to certain characters on TV because I thought they were beautiful. I was very young...so I wouldn't have been programmed yet to know what was considered beautiful in society....nor would I have been influenced by my peers. I'm 64, so in my childhood, there was no social media that would have molded my views. Not sure if commercials would have played a part or not in my young age. I am an artist, so I try to see beauty in all things. I will confess though...when I look in the mirror, my neck and platysma bands really bother me... even while I'm telling myself that nothing is good or bad but for thinking so... yet it's still hard to override the internal judgement and shame emotions. I love the idea of Paulina helping direct a new approach to modeling and the beauty industry ... there are many, many of us that want that.
Thumbs up given in first minute!!
She is right. even the young ones can’t attain the beauty standard they can for a while and then it all falls apart as we get onto our late 30’s. It’s kind of crazy because even if I see a young beautiful woman I just think for now.
I don’t know why we’re talking about beauty and aging with Paulina. It doesn’t really make sense to talk about human issues to a goddess.
She is gorgeous.
Paulina Porizkova is sooo beautiful 🌼💛🌷☘️🌞
Love you Both!!!!
She got prettier when she got older. Seen her on TV and I was like no wonder she's gorgeous she was a supermodel
I am 55. Beauty is not only defined by men. It is also defined overall as able, thin, & white. That is, & has been the societal standard. Thumbnail is me at 53. A retired actress / singer. Wheelchair, & crutch user. From birth. I grew up knowing from a very early age. 1. That I was beautiful, & 2. That I was not supposed to be. The reactions. The shock, & bias, attached to the use of a chair. While looking like I did. Were just so pronounced. I could not miss them. Literal cartoon like reactions. As I got older. I realized what was causing such dissonance. Generally as a group. As part & parcel of the overarching bias. We are at once infantilized, & asexualized. All that said. I was not feeling, or necessarily seeing myself that way. I was the only wheelchair user ln class. (1975 ) It was about that same time. ln music class. I also was singled out for my voice. I sang songs at home. with my mother. As she played guitar. Until the music teacher stopped everything. Asked me to sing alone, & put me in the talent show. I had no idea, that not everyone. Could sing. Nor that once again. I was shattering the box. They kept trying to shove me into. Societal boxes are all around us. They are nothing new. The question / choice is. Will you conform. Keeping yourself small. Uniform. For the comfort of others. Choosing cookie cutter definitions. Instead of your own. Or. Be yourself. A flawed, complex, beautifully unique. Multi-faceted. Human.
We’ll said Paulina, we’ll thought out, the intricacies of how this plays out, under the radar, in regards to men’s psychological reasonings (lol), but well done, excellently thought out reasonings and motivations of men and how this plays out by them, in life. ✅😀 Wow, v true (little chuckle) .
I'm sure that Rick's wife felt invisible when Paulina started her affair with him when she was a teenager and he was in his forties. I'm sure she felt even more invisible when Rick divorced her to marry Paulina. Granted, Paulina is the most beautiful supermodel that I have ever seen.
View of beauty is biological largely. There is the flower of youth and fertility / strength and there is the beauty of crone / sage wisdom. They are different, and wise women and men will accept the transition and not expect to be seen the same way their whole lives.
Maybe she could be the spokesperson for "FOSSIL" watches
We’re 60 plus, but have no gray hair. Well maybe a few strays in the bangs, which we occasionally put in a wash in rinse, golden highlights or a red tint. And we use it now and then, be it’s such a gorgeous glow, have been told. But, we have v few gray hairs and know a 40 yr old young lady, actually in her 30’s, had some gray hairs where we didn’t. Today, sh3 has a lot more gray hairs in the crown, but she’s v pretty and a nice person. But, the point….gray hair, for example, apparently, is all relative. Their 20 yrs younger than us and they have more gray hairs than us. We only have a few strays. So, it’s relative, can’t really put an age on it, specifically, necessarily.
Like the tree example, v true
I would buy a beauty product from someone who looks like Paulina - because I would believe it more - as she has way less wrinkles than me! - the gap between me and the worked on face of a JLo is so vast I wouldn’t believe it.
there is so much more to being a women then what they look like> We are fellow human beings trying to get through the day like everyone else. give us a break!!!
Just enjoy compliments....many cannot and do not want to spend time and money on their looks as they age. This is a conversation that could shame many older people. And one can lose looks and style if one is battle weary - and so what?
Well said!
She’s a dolly. Like the story of the cab driver, conversation.
I love the pool and the puddle woman 💕👏👏
A great number people on Earth are overly critical of others (a lot are haters)…not everybody deserves to know what goes on in your life…so choose wisely.
JUST IGNORE THOSE TROLL GOBLINS AND LIVE YOUR LIFE TO THE VERY BEST YOU CAN!!! Haha!😁❤️🙏
Paulina can come sit at my table, anytime!
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I am a 62 year old man and I am becoming MORE attractive each day. Every day women stop and stare at me, ask me for my phone number, invite me to have drinks or even, the creepy ones, directly proposition me. And it’s just getting worse as I age. If they are very young I check their ID to make sure that they are over 18, but I’m worrying that some might be borrowing their big sister’s. It’s so much stress.
LOL you are delusional.
Sure Jan.
Sigue siendo tan hermosa que solo quieres verla 🤷🏻♂️🙉
Is Paulina’s mum still with us ?
I can’t believe people care and say these things to you. I don’t know why you can be beautiful and older version of yourself.
How women see women and men see men is inseparable from how men see women and how women see men.
Good question to Paulina, Moderator. We have an answer, that immediately came up! Answer, True Answer: The Lover of our Souls, as His child, His daughters….The Lord….our dear Heavenly Father, our Creator and our beloved….Our Lord Jesus Christ, and his plan, who gave His Life For us. How many men have done that? Ty
The wall.
The wall.
The wall.
everyone looks better under 40 this will be me over 40 soon we are lucky to live long enough to age both men and women enjoy life its precious!! 😊
Extremely interesting interviewer. The interviewee, not so much.
Huh?
try intermittent fasting instead? x