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I have a gas system on mine and I did the psc conversion. I had two speed taps on my "H18" motor. I traced them back to a control board. One was "AC" and one was listed "gas heat". I used a seperate relay for each. I wired them same way you did. I wired my high speed psc wire to the AC and my medium speed to the GAS heat signal. Using the 24 volt to turn seperate relays on. Im an auto mechanic by trade so Im no expert at home HVAC. AC works great in the house now and I think the heat will too but I have not tried it yet. Still pretty warm out by me. Cost me $220 for the motor, capacitor and relays. The ECM motor was already replaced 2 years ago by previous owner of the house. Another genteq OEM replacement was 1100$. I know I could buy a much cheaper aftermarket but I dont want to be bothered replacing these every 2 years. After I diagnosed my motor as bad and learned about the ECM motor I was like screw this piece of junk. Cars are the same way now a days. Everythings designed to fail.
This adaptation is good as long as the fan motor is for a unit with an electric heater, because in a system with a gas heater, this kind of adaptation can never be done because the relay generates a spark. greetings.
Hey John, it's great to see you back, I often wondered why I didn't see you. I don't need details, it's just great to see you again. All the best to you. Hopefully you'll start making videos again.
Awesome video 😎 I might have to do this to my Rheem unit. I'll have to watch your video a few times and write things down. Hope everything is great with you 👍
old G signal , i got gas so i gets my furnace turns on the fan and not the thermostat , thanks for videos and taking the time to share your journey and career :)
John, glad your back. Have you ever replaced the round pancake resistor in the ECM module? That is almost always what I run into. In a pinch you can jump across what's left of the resistor until a replacement can be found. It's a $10 part and the furnace doesn't lose its efficiency
Really glad to have you back. My 4 year old got into HVAC and we went through all the old IsraelHVAC videos while you were gone last fall. It's awesome that you are back on your own, choosing what fulfills you and making videos again. Much appreciated, and best wishes going forward!
nice to see you back john. nice video I did that before on a split system. and me and Mike was talking and the next time I do that I think I will try doing a relay for cool and a relay for heat
Glad to hear everything is going good now brother. None of my business why you gone just Happy as hell your back. Good video John keep em coming buddy. Lol
If you have to do gas/package and board is out. Can use time delay to bring on fan 1/24 seconds and will give fan as heat exchanger heats up. Common/White
What about a new gas furnace with a board that has a time delay that starts the motor? In the old days you put the "Heater Speed" on the normally closed set of contacts because the fan switch would bring on the fan and the cooling speed on the normally open because "G" would energize in cool
May want to check duct static on that system. Had a lot of x13 going bad due to high static. Also I have been installing the evergreen aftermarket ECM x13 that are considerably cheaper that oem and are basically just the same thing. They have a variety of sizes as well.
when checking for correct blower operation- just look at the fins and see what way they are cupped, and see how the squirrel cage is shaped going to the duct- that is the rotation it is supposed to go. i can see a novice tech doing what you did and in goes the piece of insulation lol
I do x13 to PSC conversions quite a bit, typically when it’s older equipment that’s out of warranty. An x13 is not really a true variable speed motor anyway. And PSC motors are a lot more reliable in my opinion.
Great video on how you converted a x13 to psc. I'm curious if/how you told your client there is a efficiency loss with psc motor compaired to the expensive and prone to fail variable moter?
Not a good test for fan turning right direction. A squirrel cage fan like that will still move air with the motor going the wrong direction (but not as much). To save electricity I cooled my garage with a fan like yours running backwards.
JohnstonPettigrew I do NOT think he is working on the side, then he would be ripping off another company, he is advertising his own phone number, they fired him, he is back on his own.
Welcome back John your videos are great!
I have a gas system on mine and I did the psc conversion. I had two speed taps on my "H18" motor. I traced them back to a control board. One was "AC" and one was listed "gas heat". I used a seperate relay for each. I wired them same way you did. I wired my high speed psc wire to the AC and my medium speed to the GAS heat signal. Using the 24 volt to turn seperate relays on. Im an auto mechanic by trade so Im no expert at home HVAC. AC works great in the house now and I think the heat will too but I have not tried it yet. Still pretty warm out by me. Cost me $220 for the motor, capacitor and relays. The ECM motor was already replaced 2 years ago by previous owner of the house. Another genteq OEM replacement was 1100$. I know I could buy a much cheaper aftermarket but I dont want to be bothered replacing these every 2 years. After I diagnosed my motor as bad and learned about the ECM motor I was like screw this piece of junk. Cars are the same way now a days. Everythings designed to fail.
I always like ur videos bro. The Esc to Psc motor conversion saved my neck on a critical day. Tnx man
Finally some great content
This adaptation is good as long as the fan motor is for a unit with an electric heater, because in a system with a gas heater, this kind of adaptation can never be done because the relay generates a spark. greetings.
As long as the thermostat energizes "G" when you ask for strips , if not , you have no fan with hot coils .
Hey John, it's great to see you back, I often wondered why I didn't see you. I don't need details, it's just great to see you again. All the best to you. Hopefully you'll start making videos again.
Awesome video 😎 I might have to do this to my Rheem unit. I'll have to watch your video a few times and write things down. Hope everything is great with you 👍
Thank you Sir great video I’m glad all is well with you and your family. God Bless stay safe my friend.
old G signal , i got gas so i gets my furnace turns on the fan and not the thermostat , thanks for videos and taking the time to share your journey and career :)
John, glad your back. Have you ever replaced the round pancake resistor in the ECM module? That is almost always what I run into. In a pinch you can jump across what's left of the resistor until a replacement can be found. It's a $10 part and the furnace doesn't lose its efficiency
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It's a thermistor. Basically it's a resistor that varies its resistance with heat.
Glad your life is OK . Hope your family is well .
Thanks man!!
That was a great story in the beginning there John.
Really glad to have you back. My 4 year old got into HVAC and we went through all the old IsraelHVAC videos while you were gone last fall. It's awesome that you are back on your own, choosing what fulfills you and making videos again. Much appreciated, and best wishes going forward!
Nice comments, I learned something. Thanks
Good work with the change over.
hang in there bro...things with get better! concentrate on your job and it will keep you going.
Thank you, welcome back
Thanks for sharing keep up the great work! Enjoy ur videos and God Bless!
Nice work. Good to see you making videos again!
Thank you man
Good to see you back! Love the videos keep em coming!
Thanks man will do!!
Glad your back and glad that all is well!!!
Pry off the cradle mout bushing. But great insight.
Learned something new today. Thank you!
Im glad you're back bro!!! Nice video. Praying for you my broda
Great Job and Video , Keep Your HeadUp....
This 2 Shall Pass...
great video. great tip on the call for g, in heat, between an electric and gas pack
Thanks Eddie
Love your work and videos.... happy new year!
Thank you Danny. Happy New Year!!
nice to see you back john. nice video I did that before on a split system. and me and Mike was talking and the next time I do that I think I will try doing a relay for cool and a relay for heat
Thanks Rodney
Happy you are back
Take care yourself 👍
Well done looks real professional
Glad to hear everything is going good now brother. None of my business why you gone just Happy as hell your back. Good video John keep em coming buddy. Lol
I appercaite it Gil!!
Glad your back John.
If you have to do gas/package and board is out. Can use time delay to bring on fan 1/24 seconds and will give fan as heat exchanger heats up. Common/White
What about a new gas furnace with a board that has a time delay that starts the motor? In the old days you put the "Heater Speed" on the normally closed set of contacts because the fan switch would bring on the fan and the cooling speed on the normally open because "G" would energize in cool
Good to see you back!
Thank You
boa noite sou do brasil e assisto todos os seus videos você é um grande proficional meu nome é expedito
There are some circumstances for total electric heat strips the white brings on the fan through the sequencer not the G
May want to check duct static on that system. Had a lot of x13 going bad due to high static. Also I have been installing the evergreen aftermarket ECM x13 that are considerably cheaper that oem and are basically just the same thing. They have a variety of sizes as well.
good to see you again
when checking for correct blower operation- just look at the fins and see what way they are cupped, and see how the squirrel cage is shaped going to the duct- that is the rotation it is supposed to go. i can see a novice tech doing what you did and in goes the piece of insulation lol
Glad to see you back buddy!!!
Thanks man
I do x13 to PSC conversions quite a bit, typically when it’s older equipment that’s out of warranty. An x13 is not really a true variable speed motor anyway. And PSC motors are a lot more reliable in my opinion.
Straight facts
X13 was never a variable speed, its a constant torque, the 2.3 and 3.0 are variable speed
Have you seen the Carrier ECM going out prematurely? I heard they are junk and just replaced mine under warranty!
glad your back
You have been YORKED.
Great video on how you converted a x13 to psc. I'm curious if/how you told your client there is a efficiency loss with psc motor compaired to the expensive and prone to fail variable moter?
Careful the blower doesn't suck in some insulation when the foil is held up to the running blower!
Ugh no. Throw that relay in the emergency basket. Get a white Rodgers type 91. I have replaced so many of those cheap relays.... so so many
Nice job John
Thanks Harry
Not a good test for fan turning right direction. A squirrel cage fan like that will still move air with the motor going the wrong direction (but not as much). To save electricity I cooled my garage with a fan like yours running backwards.
just replaced my rheem seer 10 3.5ton with rheem seer 16 4ton and this came with and x13 i hope it lasts if not im going psc once the warranty dies
Good job
much better my friend
Yes sir
excellent!!!!
Easy on a heat pump , more complicated on a gas pack due to the need of heating blower off delay , but can be done .
You can just install a basic fan delay board, they’re less than 20 my cost.. done
great video would you be able to post a diagram on the way you hooked everything up. thanks again for the video.
Thanks man!! I'll see what i can do!!
how about using the eac tap on the board to power a 110 volt relay to turn on psc blower for both heat and cooling
Good stuff 👍🏽
Thanks buddy
Didn't see your high voltage jumper from the switch to the HK? Or does that particular thermostat call for "G" in electric Heat also?
looks good
Thanks Zack
Working Joes Roundtable Where can I find your videos on the conversions?
So you pretty much wire nut a wire from the common to one side of the relay then another wire to (g) to the other side of the relay??
Limit switch on the board turns on heating blower ? , Nope , limits always stop something .
John, re-upload the video quality is much better.
PGE gets .36 an hour here for 1kw....holly smokes @ 15 kw an hour we would have to moon light along with a regular income to pay the bills...
John, why don't you just buy a box truck?
I never understand why anyone with a brain wants to use electric strips when gas is available.
Whit is a Freon tower?
kw? 20A? what that mean?
Not freon refrigerant nice job tho
Déjà vu
You must have got fired from the company you were working for......
why you say that?
JohnstonPettigrew
I do NOT think he is working on the side, then he would be ripping off another company, he is advertising his own phone number, they fired him, he is back on his own.
Israelhvac
They did not want your fat ass moron, they
wanted your client list...wake up.hick.
+MrMac5150 Hey dip shit they didn't get client list!! Wake up dumbass
Israelhvac
This is why they fired you, you did not bring any money to the game, they pushed you out, you just don't know it.
Dammmmmm just get to the point of the video(5.40)