Finally a media segment that gives me actual information! I appreciate your explanation, just stating facts and not going on a “woe is me” complaining diatribe.
I wonder how the return to line accommodation will work with a single parent. They cant leave their young children alone to hold their place in line.....
I read that the CMs will be monitored on the number of return time accommodations they hand out at rides. If they have too many, they'll have a meeting with higher ups.
I have been denied for the next 120 days due to them not believing me. I have a major TBI, CRPS, POTS, and PTSD due to my accident. They just went "Sorry, it's for people with autims" the thing is, I have autism as well. I fall under the neurodivergent and am as neurodivergent as you come. I said the third time that I'd give it a go. I'll see how it goes, if I pass out, it'll become a joke. They say you waive your rights to sue, but in my case, it would open up a lot of avenues because I signed the agreement with a gun to the back of my head.
I’m autistic with low support needs and I’ve got PTSD. I cannot use the return to line system. I cannot wait in a long line at all cause of my sensory processing disorder. I’ve been using the das pass for about 10 years now and I’m extremely angry about the exclusion of certain disabilities. In attempts to try to be more inclusive, Disney just ended up being more ableist. So much for talks of inclusion. All they care about is money, not diversity.
Right it would be best for Disney to use the system that universal uses and to sell passes with express lanes . I would be willing to drop other expenses in my life and save up for a Disney express lane annual pass. Thank you again for taking your time. This has been a punch in my stomach. Thanks to players playing the system. Hey but through this I found 2 new awesome RUclipsrs and excited to subscribe.
This is why I can’t go to Disneyland anymore. I have a medical condition that causes high anxiety levels if I get too crowded. It’s not pretty if I have one of the attacks. Genie + would only let me ride certain rides and not others and only once per day. I have doctors treating me for this condition so why do I have to explain to a non medical person. Also my family would be 7. Just anther reason we couldn’t enjoy it together
I have a rare bone condition which means I cannot stay in line and with my disability, it means my mobility is shot completely and I have to rely on a electric wheelchair to get me around places (that and I have extreme Edema in my foot due to side effects of my rare bone condition), because of this, I wouldn't get the DAS and it frustrates me to hell and back because rides need an external entrance i.e. the exit like Space Mountain or the exit for Thunder Mountain and Splash Mountain when it was there before it became that Tianas Bayou ride or whatever it's called.
Disney needs to conduct the interview in a more timely manner, like before a trip, tickets and airplane are booked. If you are denied then you have time to plan a vacation elsewhere.
Thank you for sharing your experience; it’s enlightening and interesting to see how this new system works. Personally, I’m immunocompromised and never considered that a reason to apply for DAS. I know the situation I’m putting myself into 🤷♀️ that said, the last time I went to Disney I’ve come back with a terrible infection that landed me in the hospital, so I may be masking in the future, but regardless I don’t think it’s from the lines; I think it’s from all the people and germs everywhere. I pay for genie + gladly as I’m already paying close to $200 per day to be there and may as well pay an extra $20 to alleviate some of my concerns 🤷♀️ not sure how I’d feel if I had a child who needed accommodations, though
Hello, Immunocompromised friend here. Here are some tips I have picked up. - Hand Sanitizer is a must. I go through tons of it. I sanitize my hands after every attraction and many times in between throughout the day. - I take sanitizer wipes to wipe down any table I sit at. - I mask up in all restrooms, I don't want to get too graphic, but....every flush emits tons of germs into the air. - I NEVER use hand dryers. I always use paper towels and play a game of touch nothing whike leaving the restroom. I then immediately sanitize my hands when I get outside. - I also keep a mask on me to use in lines and pre-shows if I feel my personal space is being evaded. I got Covid twice and both times I had been in the MK 48 hours before. I wish you the best. 🙂
Thank you for sharing your experience! Everyone is so nervous and upset about the changes. We have used it three times between both coasts now, and it has for sure saved our trips. I’m nervous about the changes because my daughter doesn’t have the autism diagnosis yet, she has several other neurodivergent diagnoses, but it seems like they’re being more rigid. I feel really bad for all the people with physical medical concerns. The fact that they’re recommending everyone to buy genie+ is concerning, and their suggestions for line waiting are really condescending.
I just returned from a 5-day trip to Disney. My wife is blind and was denied DAS. The DAS representative suggested she discuss her accommodations with the employee managing the ride at every individual ride. We received exactly one accommodation in all four parks. We were regularly lectured about what we should use for accommodations. I have a doctorate studying disabilities, and I had 18-year-olds telling me how disabilities work. This DAS system is about as backwards as you can get.
I've been using das for about 10 years and I still try to utilize genie+ as often as possible but I find that very lacking particularly on a busy park day. With the standby queue not being an option for me and I'm semi local (a couple hours away from wdw) so we don't always stay on property. While trying to not abuse the das system what I've run into are park days where we can't start making genie+ selections until 9am there's often very little availability with genie+. I also often travel solo so the accommodations they seem to be offering just aren't realistic accommodations. I went to studios not long ago for the day and with genie+ was able to book 1 ride ...everything else was booked. I don't feel I should be limited to only watching muppets all day because I have a disability that isn't autism.
But if you have an emergency and you’re using an ECV or scooter how can you turn around in a long line? How can you flag a cast member when there is no cast member in the lines? This means if you are getting an asthma attack or need to leave for restroom bc you just took meds or ate in line. Now you can’t turn around and leave? Also if you are visiting by yourself how can you get help?
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And even if kind souls help you turn around what about when you meet another wheelchair or ECV or medical stroller as you wind back to the start of the line? I can’t think of hardly any lines these devices can pass one another except maybe 1 place in some lines
I believe that’s discrimination to all disability and why would you want to pay more money to go on rides? You have a better chance going to Universal Studios and getting a better experience than to dealing with Disney and if you don’t qualify, then you don’t go at all either my way or the highway that makes no sense at all, I think Disney is crumbling in all different aspects of the company and I hope that they can get things situated. I don’t think that’s fair for that kind of situation.
The majority of lighting lane is made up of DAS, according to Disney. They've allowed the abuse to take place and it did. "Now, it's time to pay the price." TT.
this is make me so mad. Why are they cherry picking Disabilies? like this is what I was afraid for. The fact that are said yeah you need it but we are not going give to you just because is ahhhhhh. This make me more want to see how many people were abuse the system. Was the abuse really the problem or the fact that LL could get very long cause people mad because the line is longer. Honestly think this is state a fact that maybe Genie needs to be $40-60 per person. While Uniserval express is different, there is a reason it is almost $100-200 more than the standard because they want more people are more likely to walk on and to limit how many people have it without it hurt the standard line. There is a reason why Hagrid's and Bowser's challenge does not have normal express lines yet because they get crazy waits without and even more waits with it.
I need DAS and now that I’m not the right kind of disabled for Disney I’m not going back. I’m not going where im not welcome. It’s just a money grab. Disney keeps raising the price but it still isn’t enough so now they’re discriminating. So eff it, I’ll start going other places for vacation. I priced it out and 2 weeks in Europe is cheaper than a week at Disneyworld.
Genie plus is inexpensive and works better than DAS. yes you have to pay but cmon people im sure you paid a lot just to vacation to Disney. So what’s a little more. I mean we just skipped a lot of gift shops or snacks and realized Genie Plus was worth every penny. Maybe we should all be grateful that DAS was free OR easy to get for so many years. I’m also very grateful I get to go on vacations as many people don’t even get that. Just saying.
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Main issue is Genie+ window is fixed where DAS was return any time after X time. I know you can modify but additional times aren’t always available plus it’s fairly stressful helping a loved one through a medical need so also refreshing on Genie+ to switch the LL about to expire adds stress. (Like he mentioned in video even if they would just take a photo and add “may need to leave queue” “may need LL extended time “ that would be very reassuring . If they clarified different accommodations better that would be helpful
I would recommend emailing Disney DAS to make suggestions... but overall I think if you can go to a theme park, then you are very lucky to begin with...
Yeah, right - because people who are disabled should be required to pay extra to get accommodations? Why don't we start this throughout society? Maybe you should be grateful you're able-bodied. Why don't we have every line in complete darkness and charge people with vision if they want lights to see? Just saying...
@blondie4512 I wouldn't be able to afford Genie Plus but I would just wait in line. But I do know some family only got enough money for the tickets in food
Finally a media segment that gives me actual information!
I appreciate your explanation, just stating facts and not going on a “woe is me” complaining diatribe.
I wonder how the return to line accommodation will work with a single parent. They cant leave their young children alone to hold their place in line.....
I think they are SOL
I read that the CMs will be monitored on the number of return time accommodations they hand out at rides. If they have too many, they'll have a meeting with higher ups.
I have been denied for the next 120 days due to them not believing me. I have a major TBI, CRPS, POTS, and PTSD due to my accident. They just went "Sorry, it's for people with autims" the thing is, I have autism as well. I fall under the neurodivergent and am as neurodivergent as you come. I said the third time that I'd give it a go. I'll see how it goes, if I pass out, it'll become a joke. They say you waive your rights to sue, but in my case, it would open up a lot of avenues because I signed the agreement with a gun to the back of my head.
Disney land paris handles this so well. I was there last year and they require proof, you get a card and its simple.
DLC and WDW should make it like DLP where you give proof of disability to give out DAS.
I’m autistic with low support needs and I’ve got PTSD. I cannot use the return to line system. I cannot wait in a long line at all cause of my sensory processing disorder. I’ve been using the das pass for about 10 years now and I’m extremely angry about the exclusion of certain disabilities. In attempts to try to be more inclusive, Disney just ended up being more ableist. So much for talks of inclusion. All they care about is money, not diversity.
Not to mention that, even though the new system cracks down on people abusing DAS, it opens up fraud and scam for people skipping the line in general.
Right it would be best for Disney to use the system that universal uses and to sell passes with express lanes . I would be willing to drop other expenses in my life and save up for a Disney express lane annual pass.
Thank you again for taking your time. This has been a punch in my stomach. Thanks to players playing the system. Hey but through this I found 2 new awesome RUclipsrs and excited to subscribe.
Autism is approved for Das it's gonna be a Ada issue before long that the local government officials get involved
This is why I can’t go to Disneyland anymore. I have a medical condition that causes high anxiety levels if I get too crowded. It’s not pretty if I have one of the attacks. Genie + would only let me ride certain rides and not others and only once per day. I have doctors treating me for this condition so why do I have to explain to a non medical person. Also my family would be 7. Just anther reason we couldn’t enjoy it together
Wow this looks like a mess.
I have a rare bone condition which means I cannot stay in line and with my disability, it means my mobility is shot completely and I have to rely on a electric wheelchair to get me around places (that and I have extreme Edema in my foot due to side effects of my rare bone condition), because of this, I wouldn't get the DAS and it frustrates me to hell and back because rides need an external entrance i.e. the exit like Space Mountain or the exit for Thunder Mountain and Splash Mountain when it was there before it became that Tianas Bayou ride or whatever it's called.
The whole thing makes me want to let our APs expire. They could just use a third party to verify like Universal does.
Maybe I’ll buy UOAPs again. 🤔
Disney needs to conduct the interview in a more timely manner, like before a trip, tickets and airplane are booked. If you are denied then you have time to plan a vacation elsewhere.
Thank you for sharing your experience; it’s enlightening and interesting to see how this new system works. Personally, I’m immunocompromised and never considered that a reason to apply for DAS. I know the situation I’m putting myself into 🤷♀️ that said, the last time I went to Disney I’ve come back with a terrible infection that landed me in the hospital, so I may be masking in the future, but regardless I don’t think it’s from the lines; I think it’s from all the people and germs everywhere. I pay for genie + gladly as I’m already paying close to $200 per day to be there and may as well pay an extra $20 to alleviate some of my concerns 🤷♀️ not sure how I’d feel if I had a child who needed accommodations, though
Hello, Immunocompromised friend here. Here are some tips I have picked up.
- Hand Sanitizer is a must. I go through tons of it. I sanitize my hands after every attraction and many times in between throughout the day.
- I take sanitizer wipes to wipe down any table I sit at.
- I mask up in all restrooms, I don't want to get too graphic, but....every flush emits tons of germs into the air.
- I NEVER use hand dryers. I always use paper towels and play a game of touch nothing whike leaving the restroom. I then immediately sanitize my hands when I get outside.
- I also keep a mask on me to use in lines and pre-shows if I feel my personal space is being evaded.
I got Covid twice and both times I had been in the MK 48 hours before. I wish you the best. 🙂
Thank you for sharing your experience! Everyone is so nervous and upset about the changes. We have used it three times between both coasts now, and it has for sure saved our trips. I’m nervous about the changes because my daughter doesn’t have the autism diagnosis yet, she has several other neurodivergent diagnoses, but it seems like they’re being more rigid. I feel really bad for all the people with physical medical concerns. The fact that they’re recommending everyone to buy genie+ is concerning, and their suggestions for line waiting are really condescending.
After you have been denied can you register? Or do I have to wait a certain time. I feel I did not advocate enough for my daughter.
I just returned from a 5-day trip to Disney. My wife is blind and was denied DAS. The DAS representative suggested she discuss her accommodations with the employee managing the ride at every individual ride. We received exactly one accommodation in all four parks. We were regularly lectured about what we should use for accommodations. I have a doctorate studying disabilities, and I had 18-year-olds telling me how disabilities work. This DAS system is about as backwards as you can get.
I've been using das for about 10 years and I still try to utilize genie+ as often as possible but I find that very lacking particularly on a busy park day. With the standby queue not being an option for me and I'm semi local (a couple hours away from wdw) so we don't always stay on property. While trying to not abuse the das system what I've run into are park days where we can't start making genie+ selections until 9am there's often very little availability with genie+. I also often travel solo so the accommodations they seem to be offering just aren't realistic accommodations. I went to studios not long ago for the day and with genie+ was able to book 1 ride ...everything else was booked. I don't feel I should be limited to only watching muppets all day because I have a disability that isn't autism.
But if you have an emergency and you’re using an ECV or scooter how can you turn around in a long line? How can you flag a cast member when there is no cast member in the lines? This means if you are getting an asthma attack or need to leave for restroom bc you just took meds or ate in line. Now you can’t turn around and leave? Also if you are visiting by yourself how can you get help?
And even if kind souls help you turn around what about when you meet another wheelchair or ECV or medical stroller as you wind back to the start of the line? I can’t think of hardly any lines these devices can pass one another except maybe 1 place in some lines
The interviewer would be an ideal job for a cast member who has a knack for being unaccommodating or outright rude to guests.
I believe that’s discrimination to all disability and why would you want to pay more money to go on rides? You have a better chance going to Universal Studios and getting a better experience than to dealing with Disney and if you don’t qualify, then you don’t go at all either my way or the highway that makes no sense at all, I think Disney is crumbling in all different aspects of the company and I hope that they can get things situated. I don’t think that’s fair for that kind of situation.
The majority of lighting lane is made up of DAS, according to Disney. They've allowed the abuse to take place and it did. "Now, it's time to pay the price." TT.
this is make me so mad. Why are they cherry picking Disabilies? like this is what I was afraid for. The fact that are said yeah you need it but we are not going give to you just because is ahhhhhh. This make me more want to see how many people were abuse the system. Was the abuse really the problem or the fact that LL could get very long cause people mad because the line is longer. Honestly think this is state a fact that maybe Genie needs to be $40-60 per person. While Uniserval express is different, there is a reason it is almost $100-200 more than the standard because they want more people are more likely to walk on and to limit how many people have it without it hurt the standard line. There is a reason why Hagrid's and Bowser's challenge does not have normal express lines yet because they get crazy waits without and even more waits with it.
I need DAS and now that I’m not the right kind of disabled for Disney I’m not going back. I’m not going where im not welcome. It’s just a money grab. Disney keeps raising the price but it still isn’t enough so now they’re discriminating. So eff it, I’ll start going other places for vacation. I priced it out and 2 weeks in Europe is cheaper than a week at Disneyworld.
So if you have a family of six your out of luck 🤷. Shouldn't it just be for direct family members
Genie plus is inexpensive and works better than DAS. yes you have to pay but cmon people im sure you paid a lot just to vacation to Disney. So what’s a little more. I mean we just skipped a lot of gift shops or snacks and realized Genie Plus was worth every penny. Maybe we should all be grateful that DAS was free OR easy to get for so many years. I’m also very grateful I get to go on vacations as many people don’t even get that. Just saying.
Main issue is Genie+ window is fixed where DAS was return any time after X time. I know you can modify but additional times aren’t always available plus it’s fairly stressful helping a loved one through a medical need so also refreshing on Genie+ to switch the LL about to expire adds stress. (Like he mentioned in video even if they would just take a photo and add “may need to leave queue” “may need LL extended time “ that would be very reassuring . If they clarified different accommodations better that would be helpful
I would recommend emailing Disney DAS to make suggestions... but overall I think if you can go to a theme park, then you are very lucky to begin with...
Yea, people should be grateful for all the services provided
Yeah, right - because people who are disabled should be required to pay extra to get accommodations? Why don't we start this throughout society? Maybe you should be grateful you're able-bodied. Why don't we have every line in complete darkness and charge people with vision if they want lights to see? Just saying...
@blondie4512 I wouldn't be able to afford Genie Plus but I would just wait in line. But I do know some family only got enough money for the tickets in food