2024 Black Crows Mirus Cor Ski Review with SkiEssentials.com
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- We first reviewed the Mirus Cor two years ago. For such a unique ski, it was somewhat hard for us to form an opinion on it. Fast forward two years and countless more hours on the Mirus Cor, and we think we can better tell this story. Enjoy!
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0:00 - Intro
1:00 - Jeff's Skis
4:20 - Construction
5:45 - Flex Pattern
6:15 - Shape
8:30 - On-Piste Carving
14:00 - Bob's Hypotheticals
17:20 - Higher Speeds
19:50 - Off-Piste Performance
23:00 - Park Performance
27:35 - Skiing Switch
28:55 - Learning Tool
30:25 - Taking Another Look
31:30 - Who's It For
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i've can say with confidence that I have never had as much fun on a pair of skis as on the mirus cor. purchased these pretty much based on the first review you guys did when it came out and never regretted it ever since. now i am not sure if I would recommend it as the only ski for somebody to have but if you're a person looking to purchase this as second ski fun machine type of thing you can not go wrong. there is just so much you can do with this ski that the days are just to short. thanks a lot to you guys for bringing this to my attention back then and after watching your footage I can not wait to bring it out again. great video ... as always
Thanks for the great feedback! It's a very interesting, engaging, and unique ski for sure.
Jeff and Bob... Thank you for the review. You guys are great, and I appreciate the analysis and passion with which you bring to your work.
Such a great review, as always. Thanks for sharing your opinions Jeff and Bob! Very valuable knowledge.
Thanks Phil! That was a fun one to do!
When I demoed this ski, I loved it from the first turn. It just feels such fun to ski. I can do anything I want to on it except hurtle through the crud. Hard chopped up snow can knock you over. I bought the demo which looked new, and got a great price. Now my favorite ski.
The feeling you get from the first turn on these things is pretty darn addicting.
I bought Mirus Cor after watching your first review 2 season ago. I loved them from first minute. They make my skiing so much playful, looking for every bump on side of slope and make me grinning after every single run. I wouldn't change them.
It was funny going back and re-watching that video as well as reading the article--so many things have stayed the same, just more experience on the skis made such a difference in the overall evaluation.
Thanks for this content guys. I shattered my knee a couple seasons ago and this seems like a good rehab ski. Last season I had about 2-3 big charging runs in me before I had to go cruise groomers the rest of the day. Hoping these will make that a lot more fun :)
Best of luck! They are wonderful skis.
Awesome review, you have just made me go and buy this ski to add to my quiver! Never thought it was an interesting ski to look at.
Surprise!
It is a great ski to go out with family and just have a fun doing short turns on green and moderate blue runs with them, I paired it with Stokli Montero AX when I want to go fast, or when we get hard snow along with Colorado morning early season refreeze. It is fun going between the two skis. They each improve your technique both put smile on your face. I find the Mirus Cor to be more fun when I am skiing with my friend who is snowboarding as well.
Great feedback, thanks for sharing!
I going to pick a pair of these up when I find a good deal on some. I already have other skis for faster or fluffier conditions but something this fun I can't miss out on. My simple goal is to throw 180's and ski switch a quarter as well as Jeff!
It's a great ski to pick up to practice that kind of stuff!
Now on my short list for that fun carving ski I am after.
As it should be!
Most fun I’ve had on a ski, very specific though. If the weathers not on your side it’s not so fun🤣
Thanks Bob
The speed limit on these was something I’ve witnessed from the lift a handful of times. On anything steeper/faster/icier I saw people washing out and not holding an edge.
I would love this ski to follow my kids around, but not sure it’s a fit for my preferred style. I adore these reviews though! And I appreciate all the work you put in :)
I agree. plus softer snow not as much fun. But so much fun in Park and groomers
Yup, definitely. It's less of a problem and more of just something you need to be aware of. You have to switch up your skiing style and change your expectations of what the ski is going to do as soon as you hit a certain speed.
@@SkiEssentialsmy Strava tells me my average speed is like 38mph….good speed for these?
I have skied these on european hard packed piste and they hold edge so wel. I normally ski Head I speed pro which has a serious race construction and this was really fun to carve on even at high speeds. My Fav allround ski want to buy them really bad
Hi guys. Great that to see you re-visit this and owning them!
I already have the Serpo and love it. But want to add a fun ski that I can learn to ski switch and park (haven’t ventured into this yet)
Would you recommend mirus or something like the camox?
I’m 5’6”, 180lb.
You're stuck right in the middle! If you're looking for switch and park and fun, I'd say Mirus Cor has more to offer. If you were looking for more freeride, tree, powder, then I'd point you in the Camox's direction. I'd go with the 168 in that ski. Have fun!
Thanks for such an amazing review! I’m thinking about getting these, because I want something easy to maneuver and twin tip but still able to do some carving, because I have a little bit of slalom background and used to ski something like atomic metron b5i 172cm with a narrow waist and it was my most favorite carving skis. I bought a pair of volkl revolt 104 180cm couple of years ago because I wanted to get into more free ride/freestyle skiing and I’m having really hard time skiing those most of the time (I think mostly due to their length feels really long and hard to maneuver on steeper moguls and waist width makes it harder to carve). Do you think I should get Mirus Cor in 178 or 173 length? I’m 6 ft tall and around 165 lbs, my skiing level is intermediate-advanced more on the intermediate side.
I think if you're looking for more of a slalom character, the 173 makes more sense. Takes advantage of the ski's strengths in short turns for sure!
Had these for a while, but prefered more surfy ski like K2 reckoner. So much fun on groomers...wow....soft snow, or dust on crust or wet soft snow it struggled to move
I didn't like the 87 under foot, little to short for me, love to have a bit wider here on the west coast.
I agree with the clanging bob had.... but a groomer day...wow so good. Sold the ski for K2 112 recokners team mounted. Still a solid ski! 7/10
It's cool you bring up the Reckoners, as they kind of achieve a similar thing with how well they carve. I can definitely understand not loving the 87 mm waist, especially out west. I wonder if maybe someday we'll get a similar shape, but in a wider footprint someday.
Great in-depth discussion on this ski. Thanks! what are your thoughts on mounting -1 or -2 from recommended? Say -5 or -6 from true centre if you’re not spending any time in the park hitting rails and are more focused on the fun playful carving aspect of these skis, soft bumps and popping off everything in sight. Doesn’t the uniqueness of this ski make you think keep it where they say it should be? Just to add I’m use to more progressive mounts of -6 and -5, but struggled with bent chetler 120s at -3 and ended up pushing it back -2 on them. Cheers. And thanks again for the great info and all the effort that goes into it.
The somewhat symmetrical shape of the ski makes that mount point pretty darn accurate.
Guys, I love watching your videos. Keep it going. Anyway, I'm an expert skier (6'1" 200 lbs) who is looking for a fun carving ski that can do a bit of everything. I'm a Sunday River skier that averages mid 30's mph and worry about this ski holding an edge and chattering at speed. I love watching you both but I'm more interested in Bob's opinion here because he's closer to my size. I have a 22' Rustler 9 and a 21' Volkl Deacon 76. The Deacon takes a lot of work at slower speeds and the Rustler chatters at speed. I'm going to Sud Tirol for a trip next winter and wanted to take a new carver on that trip but am concerned that their big screamy slopes might not be great for it or even on a Rogue Angel at Sunday River. Do you have any other recommendations? What does Bob own?
If you're looking to get into the versatile carving department, I think you can go one of two ways. The first is the wider of the front side skis, so my favorites are the Elan Wingman 86 CTi, Fischer RC One 86 GT, or Volkl Deacon 84. I'd put two other votes in there for either the Stockli Montero AR or the Rossignol Experience 86Ti--both fantastic high-performance skis in their own right. The other way is a narrower all-mountain ski like Volkl Kendo, Blizzard Brahma 88 or 82, Armada Declivity 82 Ti, or Nordica Enforcer 88.
Love watching your videos. i am in the market for a fun playful tight turning (trees/bums, playing on the edge of the runs) I am not a high speed racers that loves big hard carving turns on high edge angles, but love to still play like a kid when skiing back here in the east (i have my full line up for Revelstoke/back country (deep pow) from 105 all the way up to 122 and i joke on the east coast skiing that my groomer is a 105!!). I love to ski the edge of a groomers in the "garbage" and having fun dropping tight trees and bumps over a groomer any day. I watched the reviews of the 2024 - 90 under foot and now looking for feedback as there is a few in there like this ski or a rustler 9 or a mindbender etc. my edge angle is not high (similar to Emily in your video) and i noticed you highlighted she changed it up on these skis to have a higher edge angle but what was her feedback on tighter straight line turns on it? Thanks - keep up the awesome videos
The straighter turns are tougher, mainly in the same way that it's difficult to ride a slalom ski in the flats--they just want to turn. They hold speed and an edge very well in the shorter turns, but as you go longer and longer--past the radius--they get a bit more squirrely, especially since the mount zone is more in the middle of the ski.
Maybe it’s the uniqueness of them but I am really considering these… Thanks for all of your videos!
I have a pair of the Rossi Sender 104, and I love the capabilities, but I have been looking for a ski to have fun with my family and girlfriend when skiing with them.
I am 5’9 and 175 but have been looking for a fun ski which I can enjoy at lower speeds and which I don’t need to be engaged all the time, or be punished too much when i’m not.
I love focusing on my technique but also enjoy a little energy in my ski. I also considered the Camox (seems a little too serious for a fun second ski), arv 94, prodigy 2/line vision 98(the what ifs on people’s experience of durability scare me a little). Love the idea of the masterblasters and the allplay but mr J doesn’t have any demo locations around me.
Sorry for this short novel, thanks for everything you do!
I demoed the prodigy 2 and vision 98 and liked them but might want something even more unique, however i do love the pop and fun poppy factor of those.
Another amazing review. Still love the level of enthusiasm, it's so infectious, which is a bit of a problem as I am a lot poorer as a result ... but much happier! OK .. never asked before .. if both your houses were burning down and you only had time to rescue one set of skis each ... which would it be?
Oh my gosh! What a scenario. It might actually be these for me. I've just grown to absolutely love both the ski and the way it looks with the orange FKS. That said, I might stand there deciding for too long between these, Unleashed 98s, new Playmaker 101... dunno. Ripstick Tour 104 would be a hard one to watch go up in flames, as would my first gen Enforcer 104... Let's just hope that never happens! I bet Bob would grab his Salomon Super Force 9.2s.
Sold!
Excellent review of this very interesting ski! How would you compare the Mirus Cor and the Ripstick 88? Is the Mirus Cor a better frontside carver for the groomers? Which ski would you recommend for a solid intermediate skier who is focusing mostly on improving frontside carving? Thanks guys!
I think the Head Supershape's (likely Rally's) would make a great fit. Anyone can ski the Supershapes gently but they really come into their own when you start tipping them over so they work great for a progressing carver. These Mirus Cor's are more versatile for skiing switch, bumps, jumps etc. but the Supershapes are more rewarding for pure carving and higher speeds.
@@bearclaw5115 Thanks very much, Bear Claw, for advice about the Supershapes.
I'd probably go Ripstick over the Mirus Cor for someone focusing on improving carving. Both could work, in theory, but if you don't need the other aspects of the Mirus Cor, or rather won't benefit from them, it might make more sense to stick with a more directional ski. I like the Supershape recommendation, although something slightly more approachable could be even better. Blizzard Thunderbird R15, the new Rossignol Forza 60, maybe something like a Volkl Deacon 80... all of those skis come to mind as potentially better options. Hope that helps!
going from a k2 reckoner 112 in 184 would you guys size this one down or stay with the 184? looks like it has pretty deep rocker lines..?
It's certainly okay to size down on Mirus Cor. If you're 6 foot or under, I'd go shorter in that ski. Have fun!
SE
I have the Justis and absolutely love them, but I am looking for something just a tad more forgiving on day where im with the wife or maybe hitting moguls, instead of railing big fast carves.
Im 6'0 and 215, would you recommend these in 184 for that application? Or would you steer me to something even skinnier like the Divus, I definitely want a sub 90mm width ski.
Additionally, I bought the justis in 178 and I think I might be regretting that, Would you recommend bumping up to the 184 for aggressive high speed carving? I also had less float than i was expecting in powder on the 178s.
Thanks as always! You are both fantastic and we appreciate all the hard work and thoughtfulness that goes into this channel!
I'm not SkiEssentials but you can see from the video that aggressive high speed carving is not on the menu for the Mirus Cor. It's more fun at lower speeds but if you are tempted by it's other traits then yes the 184 would be the ticket for a larger guy like yourself.
Definitely go 184. You're pretty close to Bob's size and that's the length he preferred for sure. I think the Mirus would be pretty perfect for what you're looking for. It's certainly not a Justis, but it makes those days when you're skiing more casually a lot more fun. Divus is a great ski too, although it's certainly less playful and not as fun in bumps, IMO.
Demo’d these skis in Finland recently (178) and was kind of blown away. They are so mind bendingly fun it’s hard to describe. Would you recommend I size up to 184 as an aggressive frontside advanced skier at 165lbs 6’2”? thanks!
It's tough to recommend a different length given your experience.
Hey guys
In real trouble deciding whether to get these or the black crows serpos. I have the Atomic bent 100 already, and they have been great for all mountain use. I however have been more and more on the piste in resort trips, and would say i use 80-90% of the time on groomers. I miss having a pair of skis that is more stable and less chatty on groomers, that also would be eaiser to get on edge for carving. I however also want the possibility to take my skis in to the off-piste in that other 10/20% of the time. My question is therefore, would you go with the Mirus Cor or the Serpo as my second pair next to the bent100s? Thanks for making awesome ski review videos, love your page.
You sound more like a Serpo skier to me, and it's a better complement to the Bent 100. I do think that's the way to go here.
I’m intrigued by this ski, on another video you narrowed me down to the deacon 84. I know this is further away from a traditional ski. But what would you say are the main differences? I would imagine the deacons are definitely better at carving fast, do you have any other considerations between the two?
They're just doing to feel a lot different, those two skis. The Deacon 84 is stiffer throughout and especially in the tips and tails. It's certainly less playful, but handles higher speeds better than the Mirus Cor. The Mirus is a unique ski, so it's hard to compare to anything really, but it's easier to achieve a shorter radius carve, especially at slower speeds, then you get the playfulness and versatility for park, trees, stuff like that, which obviously the Deacon doesn't have. Strictly carving, I think most people would probably rather have the Deacon, but it's a fairly one-dimensional ski compared to this.
I’m looking to get the most fun out of every condition on the piste. I’m looking at getting a two ski quiver. I love carving. I recently tried a Head Supershape E-magnum and that was much fun, but when the snow gets chopped, messy or just a bit deeper than freshly groomed the “normal” ski just gets so tough. How would the Moris Cor handle these conditions? Is that the go-to for a softer carve machine to handle messy conditions? I’m also having a look at the Atomic Bent 100 for the second ski to handle messy conditions. Thoughts?
I think it's a tough move from a stable and powerful ski like the Magnum to the Mirus Cor, especially if you're expecting somewhat similar performance. The Mirus Cor is a great option for carving clean turns on relatively smooth surfaces, but the carving performance downgrades as the conditions degrade. This doesn't mean the ski isn't versatile, but something like a Fischer RC One 86 GT will plow through adverse conditions in a carve better than the Mirus Cor. Elan Wingman 86 CTi, Volkl Deacon 84, or even within Head, the Supershape Titan will probably hold up very nicely.
I am an advanced intermediate skiier who bought the Rustler 9s last year and love them. But they feel a bit smeery and dont have a ton of pop. They are a perfect ski for the days you are not quite sure what youre gonna get or do, but am looking for a more dedicated resort / carving ski / days I might be running with people who aren't as comfortable skiing. And i just can't get my mind off these. How would you compare the two and would I be crazy to own them side by side? Thanks so much for your incredible reviews, they are the best on the internet.
Thanks!
The Mirus Cor is unique, so it could actually pair well with any other ski on the planet. Rustler 9 is one of them. You have to ski the Mirus Cor a bit different as it likes being driven through the center rather than the Rustler that's more tip to tail. The Rustler can still make quick and agile skidded turns while the Mirus Cor prefers to be deeper in the carve, or flatter overall. I'd rather ski the Rustler in the bumps and trees, but not by a whole lot. On-trail, the Mirus Cor feels like a slalom ski, but you do have to adhere to the shorter radius if you want it to carve purely.
I watched this review 3 times! These skis seem to match my ski style better than all other performance reviews I have seen, minus the park stuff at 65 I don’t need rails, switch, or any sort of corks! The “modern/progressive”all mountain slalom ski that can butcher short radius turns and be creative on any terrain in the northeast is very appealing to my vintage free ride style.
At 5’8 and 155, I ski a mindbender 120 boot and prefer the 177ish length…..question???? If orange was not my color, what other skis stand next to the minus cor, or is the orange bird all alone?
Ha! It's a very unique ski. Not many have the more central mount style that this one has. I would check out the Dynastar M-Cross 88 or even the Salomon QST 92 for shorter-turning and playful all-mountain skis.
Decided to get them thanks to you guys! What bindings would recommend on them (up to 250$)? I am 63kg 177cm and an advanced skier.
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Thanx for great video! My thoughts now it’s a very playful ski, we’re you can work on as we’ll and get rewarded for. Still missing if this ski works fine in deep snow?
Can only afford one pair, and love to ski it all, still good choice you think?
Thanx
I'd say it works fine, but not much better than fine, especially in deep snow. Soft snow is great, but deep stuff is just fine. How often do the deep days occur? The wonderful thing about the Mirus Cor is that it is incredibly useful for a vast majority of the time.
thank you for your views regarding this ski. I've watched numerous reviews from you this year tying to pick a new ski. One thing I would request in all your videos is could you remind us of your height and weight and the reason you chose the length in the particular ski you're reviewing. thanks!
I feel like we talk about that a lot, but it's always good to get a reminder!
What bindings do you have with these? They look cool
It's a Rossignol FKS 18 from a few years ago. There aren't currently any more Rossignol branded bindings, they're all Look Pivots now. It's a bummer, kind of, as the orange FKS is an iconic look.
Hey Jeff .. Love your reviews - raw, edgy & fun to watch! Just for context (i weigh in at 75kg and 5'11") what is your height and weight. I am a fairly aggressive advanced skier, but usually ski a shorter length - I am looking at either the 173 or 178, and thinking about the shorter length to enhance the swing rate - any thoughts appreciated.
Thanks!
You can go a bit shorter in this ski--I'd lean to the 173 to take full advantage of that short-carving personality. Have fun!
SE
Great review! Could you compare this to Line Blade?
Width is a big difference. The Blade is still a pretty wide ski overall. Additionally, the shape of the Mirus Cor is a lot more symmetrical, making it rounder and less directional in nature. I'd put the Mirus Cor as the crisper turner of the two while the Blade is somewhat more lumbering (which I love personally, but is a difference).
Niiiiice. I’d buy these for the color only not even talking about the YUGE fun factor.
Yessss I've been waiting for this, I think these are gonna be skis #2
Love your reviews of this ski, much appreciated. I’m 185 lbs (87kg), 6’1 ft (183cm), confident skier - better than intermediate but certainly not an expert. Nearly always ski groomers and it would be fun to get better at some small tricks. I can’t decide on 173cm or 178cm (184cm and 168cm is definitely out ). Please may you recommend the right length before I buy them? Thanks!
I'd go 178. I'm a bit taller than you and I think the 173 would feel too short. Have fun!
Great review, thanks! I like this ski and am thinking of buying it. I have rented 173 and 178. Didn't get much off the 173, didn't really like it but tried the 178 and really liked it. Am wondering if I might like 184 even more. I'm 6'1 and 175 lbs. Any thoughts?
Great review! I am 6’2” (189cm) 190lbs. Progressing Beginner-intermediate. Please help recommend me a right length.
178? Or 185? Thanks!
How do you go about looking after your edges on a carving ski that's also used for hitting rails? Did you detune underfoot at all?
I'm actually planning on doing a video about that sometime this spring/summer. I think a lot of people would be interested how I (Jeff) approach the problem. I always keep a diamond stone and a gummy stone with me. Use the diamond stone to lightly knock off burrs that form underfoot, then smooth everything out and try to create a rounded edge right underfoot with the gummy stone. I try to just limit that to right underfoot, while keeping everything from toe and heel pieces out towards tips and tails sharp.
I don't detune right away because I find it's just removing material, and the more material I can start with, the better. I do find that it's more important to keep up with the de-burring process over, say, the first 10 days of skiing. After that I don't do it as often, just when I start to feel it a little catchy underfoot.
Yes, please do a detune video Jeff! I'm new to park skiing so your advice would be greatly appreciated 🙏
I felt the same way about the Season Kin twin tips I just picked up. They make every trail fun!. Carve so well.. I'll have to try these out...
Have any of you guys/girls been on any Season skis? Quick thoughts?? I my bought mine on a whim. And i've been very happy. Seem well made also
We've never been on them, but definitely like everything that Pollard had done with Line. Makes sense that these would follow suit. Kin looks like a wider version of the Mirus Cor, complete with very symmetrical shape and weight.
How do these compare at highers speeds relative to the Volkl Kendo 88 and Kanjo? I just demoed the Kendos and Kanjos side by side; I noticed that the Kendos are way more damp than the Kanjo and seem to absorb shocks rutted out terrain really well (but feel a bit more sterile), whereas I felt I was really getting bucked around in the Kanjo later in the day, which wasn't fun. I like lively skis that can pop off lips and rollers, but liked that feeling the Kendos had of really wanting to really turn, so the Mirus Cor seem like a good fit. My only concern is if I will feel all the chatter of rutted out terrain when going over chunder at higher speeds the same way I did with the Kanjos.
When you're going fast on the Mirus Cor, you have to keep it at shallower edge angles. The short turn radius pushes back against very high-speed, high-angle carves. Kendo is the best in this application with Kanjo landing somewhere in the middle.
Damnit guys! Before watching this video, I didn't think I needed this ski.... now I'm not so sure 😆
One of the main reasons that you need this ski is that you likely don't have anything else like it. The uniqueness of the ski really pushes its necessity level over the edge. Enjoy!
I already ordered after I watched this even though my season ended
On the mirus cor is it better to mount look pivot 15 bindigs or marker griffon?
My only concern about Pivot is the brake width of 95 feels a bit wide for the 87 mm Mirus Cor, especially at the angles you are supposed to achieve on the ski. Jeff has no issues with the 95 on his pair, but I might lean to the Griffon with the 90 in order to get the brakes fully out of the way.
Hi guys! How would compare it vs the new octa? I really dont ski in snowpark, but love rip carving turns, and some fun easy jumps.
Will hold too bad in firm-icy snow that here im europe have usually in lowest parts.
Finally where did yoy film it? Looks great resort to visit
The Octo is more like a refreshed Vertis. It's pretty directional with no metal, so it does have a speed limit (not unlike Mirus Cor, but in a different way). I think if you stick to shorter and more energetic turns, like the Vertis liked, you'll do great. Most of our filming is done in Stowe, VT and it's a blast.
Hi Jeff and Bob, love the review, Jeff you are skiing on the 178, how tall are you? I am tossing between the 173 and 178, I am short, 175, like turns more, bumps and a bit of park. Read to choose the shorter side, what you reckon? Thanks.
Jeff's 5'10 on the 178. I do think these skis can be skied slightly shorter. If you're 175, the 173 will be a good choice, especially if you like bumps and shorter turns.
@@SkiEssentials Hey there, thanks so much, confirms my thinking and will be pairing with Pivot 15 forza, eyeing them since the last season now
Hello,
I wanted to ask if you think that the 184 for a 6,4 tall guy is too short because i‘m searching for a playful twintippier ski for like groomers and stuff.
I think this is right on the money for your height.
awesome review! how would you compare the mirus cor and the wingman 86 cti or black? i'm a 5'10", 155lb intermediate/early advanced skier trying to find a fun wide carver to improve with, but that also has a bit of versatility to take into bumps/trees/a few inches of snow. would be complimenting an old enforcer 98.
They're pretty different, mainly in the place where you stand on the ski. In the Mirus Cor, it's a lot more central while the Wingman's stance is further back in the ski. This makes the Mirus Cor feel like it makes much rounder turns across the fall line--it's almost incapable of longer turns, though, which is where the Wingmans are a bit more fun and interesting. I think the Wingman falls into the more traditional style of ski while the Mirus Cor is very unique and not for everyone. I'd say the Wingman 86 CTi is your safest bet here!
@@SkiEssentials thanks! i ended up demoing both at stowe last weekend and man, the mirus cor are incredible. just so fun! ended up picking up a pair of them instead of the wingman :)
Nice review. I am really considering bying a pair of these, but as they only have up to 184 cm and I am 197 cm and weighing around 87 kg. I have a pair of factions 189 cm which i use mostly for park and a pair of 106 armadas 189 cm which i use for a little bit of everything. Do you think I will have a good time on these skis?
Probably? Tough question for me to answer. I'm 188 cm/100kg and feel just fine on the 184. You do have to remember to ski them more centrally, but when you do it's a very rewarding carved turn. Pressuring the tips is not really the correct way to ski the Mirus Cor.
Ive got a set of Camox already. Is it worth me getting a set of this for days purely on piste with family or friends?
yes
What’s the difference between the Mirus vs Line blade ? I’m trying to decide between the two.
Width is a big difference. The Blade is still a pretty wide ski overall. Additionally, the shape of the Mirus Cor is a lot more symmetrical, making it rounder and less directional in nature. I'd put the Mirus Cor as the crisper turner of the two while the Blade is somewhat more lumbering (which I love personally, but is a difference).
I get that fun feeling from Stockli AX skis - thoughts?
Very much so! It's a different feel in terms of where you stand on the ski, but overall, both are more than capable of making crisp, clean, and round turns in a variety of conditions and terrain. The Mirus Cor is such a centrally-oriented ski while the AX feels so much more like you're in the back half of the board. The end result is surprisingly similar.
Hi! I’m 5’11 198lbs. Skiing in Italy in the Alps, what height do you recommend, 173 or 178? Thank you
178
I own a pair of these and I can not recommend them higher. I ski in jackson hole each winter and usually get in 100+ days a season and these were my daily driver for sure. They aren’t incredible at top speeds they do begin to chatter but they still carve really well at those high speeds imo. I found with the fat shovels at the front, if you get into the off piste a little bit and say there’s maybe 2 to 3 inches of snow on the ground they actually do pretty incredible. It’s hard to describe but that edge still cuts super hard on the bottom hard pack, but you get a little float out of those shovels too. They are super playful and incredible hard carvers especially at medium speeds. I run the 184 and I’m 6’4 200 pounds so it is a bit small for me. But to be honest the way they ski it’s actually a really nice size. I’d ideally take longer if they had the option. but for the kind of skiing they offer, running a bit shorter seems to work for me. But to make things simple this is a ski completely different to anything on the market. And if your ski style is anything like mine, tight sweeping turns but loves taking those side hits and rollers, absolutely get yourself a pair of these. They are expensive but my goodness are they worth it. Oh final note, I probably have 45 days on my pair and the fish tails did begin to separate a little bit. I used super glue and clamps to fix it and it seems to have done the job fine, and as far as the rest of the ski, it hasn’t really clapped out at all. Still rides like day one . If anyone has any questions and is looking into getting themselves a pair just reply to this comment and I can give my two cents.
Thanks for the feedback! Aligned!
I’m looking for a new pair of skis and I really like the reviews on this amazing looking ski. But I only ski groomers and have doubts if I should just buy a real carving ski like Völkl’s 76 or this one. What is your take on this ?😊
@@Skiingwithmisha if you are interested in expanding your horizons a bit by trying some bumps, trees, or side hits there would be amazing. If you are really looking to just stick to riding groomers and keeping things in your comfort zone they would be fun but another ski is probably a better fit.
Hi guys, love your reviews. Could you also talk about bindings for ski's like these that come as an open choice for bindings? E.g. With Look Pivot's, you are mounted more flat on the ski, versus with a system binding. Don't know what binding is on Bob's pair (Marker Griffon?) Black Crows offers you 4 options: Marker Griffon 13, Marker Jester 16, Salomon Warden MNC 13 and Salomon Stage 11. I'm no expert, but there's a difference in range of boot size adjustability and shall I say: "ride height". The higher you are on the ski, it would add to carving capabilities, whereas with low flat bindings you have more of the ski's natural character and flex - but that does not suit every rider. In other words: choice of binding matters. And it would be great to have some guidance on it as there's a lot of choices and not a lot that you can do should you make the wrong choice for your preferences after it is mounted.
Most of the bindings you list have similar stand heights. The difference between the Griffon and the Jester is only the DIN spring. The Warden MNC is able to handle a lot of different boot soles, and the Strive 11 is the lower DIN choice and the lightest binding option. It's pretty rare for a skier to make a totally wrong choice with bindings, and that generally happens if someone makes a decision based solely on price or color. We'll normally make an effort to say what we would put on a ski, or some options. On our website, we pair each flat ski with a binding that we think will work great for a lot of skiers and helps us keep costs low because we buy these specific bindings in bulk. If you have any questions in this regard, feel free to call our customer service at 877-812-6710 for a specific recommendation.
@@SkiEssentials thanks! Then I’m less worried about making a wrong choice :)
What's your size recommendation for a 5'7" 175lbs skier. 168 or the 173 for an east coast ripper
Jeff is lighter than you and he is running the 178's.
Black crows themselves tell people to take them a bit shorten then your traditional ski to keep the playfulness of the ski
Either 173 or 178, although I feel pretty good about the 173. 168 feels too short for your weight. Don't completely rule out the 178, but if you prefer shorter lengths anyways, go 173.
How would these compare to the Line Blade… shape seems similar?
Width is a big difference. The Blade is still a pretty wide ski overall. Additionally, the shape of the Mirus Cor is a lot more symmetrical, making it rounder and less directional in nature. I'd put the Mirus Cor as the crisper turner of the two while the Blade is somewhat more lumbering (which I love personally, but is a difference).
How does MC compare to Line Blade/Blade W? Are they same ski? Line Blade is stiffer and more frontside right? About the same type of “fun” skis on both? And which would be better for the East Coast?
I like this question. They both fill in very well as "unique" and "individual" skis but the Mirus Cor feels like a more eastern-centric ski than the Blade.
At some point we will need Bob to review those new Kastle boots lol
He's intrigued!
I'm really torn about getting a pair of these or a pair of Serpo. I would like to add a second pair of skis to the current set of Atomic vantage 83CTI skis I have.
I am 5'-10" 175 and typically ski the east with a few trips out west. I have been skiing for over 20 years and would consider myself an expert skier. I like groomers and tree skiing when the conditions are good. I venture into the park a little but as I am getting older I tend not to spend as much time there.
The Serpo is a lot like the Vantage, only wider. The Mirus Cor, even though it's more similar in terms of waist width, has a different style and character in that you ski it more in the middle of the ski only, rather than a tip to tail carve. Mirus Cor ends up being a bit more useful and versatile in an all-mountain format as well, as it's a decent tree ski that can maneuver and pivot easier than the Serpo. If park is introduced at all, I think that points the needle a bit closer to the Mirus Cor.
Hey guys. Looking to buy one of these. Unfortunately, couldn’t test it these last two weeks in the Alpes. It was always rented out. I need help with the size. I am 190cm (6.2 feet) and 80kg (176 pound). I can’t decide between 178 and 184 cm. I have a bonafide 180 cm and an atomic infamous 180 cm. I tend towards 184 with the mirus cor but I be never had a ski over 180cm. Any advice? I am looking for maximum fun on groomers..
I'd go 184. They can feel short, and with the short radius, going to the 178 would make it feel even shorter.
I'm an expert skier with a race background who skis 60/40 east/west. My daily driver is the kästle FX95 HP, which I adore, but I've recently started teaching my girlfriend how to ski and am looking for something I can have a lot of fun on at low speeds.
Do you think the Mirus Cor is right for me? From everything in the video I'm convinced it is, but I'm a tad worried about the icy days that are pretty common on the East Coast, which people don't seem to think it handles very well.
Fear not! The ski holds great on firm snow.
I like to ski between 35 and 50 mph and I do both carving and free riding.
Will they suit me?? Sometimes I like to hit 60 mph but rarely only when I really wanna feel some adrenaline… will the ski be able to handle this yiu think:)??
Height 6 foot
75 kg
Yes, but there are limitations to how strong it carves at higher speeds. If you want to go fast like 60, you will have to ride a flatter ski overall.
I'm so torn. I'm in the market for a carving ski to add to my Nordica Enforcer 104, and I just demo'd the Mirus Cor after demoing the Rossignol Forza 70D a couple days ago. I was skiing today with a group which is less into hard-charging carving like me, so I took an unusually high number of runs on gentler slopes which would normally bore me out of my mind, but these skis were still so fun on flat runs at pretty slow speed. The energy from edge to edge on blues and even greens was ridiculous. This is a fantastic ski for anyone who wants to have fun while skiing with skiers who ski at slower speeds. I thought skiing the Forzas was the most fun I've had on skis in the Midwest in a decade, but the Mirus Cor topped it.
Awesome feedback! Fun when these things/discoveries happen!
I'm going to get this ski. I had the DPS Cassiar 85 Pure (2017?) with a 15M sidecut (their attempt at a more versatile carving ski) that I used as my East Coast groomer ski for a few years. I skied it in a 168 and probably could have gone slightly longer. I wonder how the Mirus Cor will compare.
I have Kendo 88s in a 170 now but want to add something more playful. Looks like the 168 Mirus Cor is what I need (I'm 5'6", 140#) but I'm worried that, with the tip/tail rocker, it will feel short. Should I bump up to the 173?
Part of the fun of this ski is that it makes such short and playful turns. Going with the 168 I think makes good sense.
@@SkiEssentials Thank you! That's great advice (and just what I needed to hear). I found a deal on a 168 pair from last season and ordered them. I can't wait to try them out.
Thoughts on the Mirus vs. Captis?
Captis is less surprising, so to speak. Captis is arguably a better park ski, and I think better in bumps too. The straighter cut helps a lot in bumps for sure. On the other hand, it doesn't have that same rewarding carving experience as the Mirus. That's really what makes this ski unique. I really enjoy both of those skis, but they're definitely different.
How would these compare to the QST 98 for pure fun on and off trail? Both are pretty short radius. I already have some much-loved Stormrider 102s which perform great pretty much everywhere, but I'd really like to match them with a super-fun alternative.
Would the Mirus Cors fit the bill, or would you go elsewhere?
I'm never going to not tell someone to get a Mirus Cor. That said, the QST 98 is more versatile and will be a better one-ski quiver. That said again, you already have a 102, so the narrower Mirus Cor will offer a greater difference between your ski quiver.
Thank you. Yes, if I didn't already have the SR102s I would definitely gone for the QST98.
In the end, I decided there would be too much crossover with the 98s, so I took the radical approach and bought the Mirus Cors.
It took me about an hour and a half to work out what was going on. The tight sidecut and forward position was a bit weird for an old guy like me.
When I got the hang of them, I found myself trenching the deepest mid-radius carves I have ever managed.
Total unadulterated FUN!
What's your thoughts compared to the Line Blade?
I'm a fan of both, but here in Vermont, there are more days in which the Mirus Cor is a better option than the Blade. I really like that ski, but it's very wide overall and there is just a larger percentage of time here where the narrower ski is a better choice. If I skied in snowier and more open zones, I might feel differently and go with the Blade--that ski is so fun, it's just not as precise as the Black Crows.
This review sounds like these skis are remarkably similar to the Line Blades I started on last season. With one important However. However, the Line has NO speed limit. I guess it's because the fishbone 'spine' extends farther forward, adds about 100g of metal as you've estimated. Rock solid at higher speeds, although like the Mirus Cor it still just wants to be on edge ALL. THE. TIME.
I feel the same way, although I have yet to ski the 181 in the Blade and get it up to higher speeds--I haven't felt too comfy on the 176 quite yet.
What bindings do you have on your skis, Jeff? I just bought these skis in the 178’s.
It's an older Rossignol FKS 18--twin to a Pivot.
So, what would you put on this ski if that binding is not available? Great job on all reviews! You guys are my “go to” for ski reviews!
@@philwistrom9200 Jeff's fine with the 95 mm Pivot brake on that ski--our colleague Matt also has a Pivot on his Mirus Cor and likes them. I personally find there's a bit too much overhang with the brakes on the 87 mm waist, so I would opt for a Marker Griffon/Jester or a Salomon Strive 16 with 90 mm brakes.
Thank you for the info!!
Sounds a similar mix of abilities as the Line Blade or Moment Deathwish even if the construction might not draw the most obvious comparisons 😊
The Blade is more rolling rather than poppy--that's one of the biggest differences in terms of performance.
Moment Deathwish is grippier and feels quite a bit stronger when charging or on ice and poor conditions. It’s triple camber profile just makes it completely different than any other ski I’ve tried. Out of all the skis I demoed it was my absolute favorite and I purchased. Haven’t regretted at all.
Awesome review! I’m 172cm and 60kg, would 168 or 173 be better ?
I'd go 168 based on your stats and application. Have fun!
hi, im the same height and wonder whether 168cm will perform well off-piste (rather not powder) ?
Can you review the 2024 Noctas?
Yes. We're working on that one for the next couple of weeks.
Hey Guys…. I bought these skis because of you and now can you let me know where I can get an Orange FKS binding like you have mounted on yours ? Thx 15:07
eBay / secondhand - they are Rossignol (rebranded Look Pivot) and haven't been stocked for at least 3-4 years (maybe older than that ?)
This ^^
There's also a custom Pivot painter out there: crasheur.com/
how it compare with a elan ripstick 96 black??? I’m indecise between these two for next season.
Totally different skis for different styles. The Ripsticks are more traditional, probably have a higher speed limit but would be less versatile for skiing switch, park and trees. If you like to play around go Mirus Cor, if you like speed go Ripstick.
As Bear Claw points out, totally different skis. The Ripstick 96 Black is way more stable at higher speeds and can lay down some crazy fast carves, without completely sacrificing playfulness or versatility. Mirus Cor doesn't love those high speed arcs, but if you're looking for playfulness and just a fun-loving ski, it's fantastic. Mirus Cor would be a better comparison with the RIpstick 88, although even with those, there are some significant differences.
Line blade optic 92 or the Mirus cor give me your opinion
The Line is more versatile and well-rounded from a traditional freeride perspective. The Mirus Cor feels like a slalom ski most of the time with excellent carving capabilities, especially in a shorter arc format. The Line is floatier and driftier in softer snow, trees, and bumps because it doesn't have such a dramatic sidecut.
Black Crows says this can be skied short. What are your thoughts on that?
It's interesting, as I used to think that, but now I'm not so sure. We've almost been sizing up on them and with great success. Maybe not sizing up, but going with a traditional length for our size. I (Jeff) have landed on the 178 for me, while Bob likes the 184. Neither of those are particularly downsized, and even our Black Crows rep has been recommending some longer lengths than you might expect on test days.
@@SkiEssentials Hey Jeff .. Love your reviews - raw, edgy & fun to watch! Just for context (i weigh in at 75kg and 5'11") what is your height and weight. I am a fairly aggressive advanced skier, but usually ski a shorter length - I am looking at either the 173 or 178, and thinking about the shorter length to enhance the swing rate - any thoughts appreciated.
I'm a small Skier 160cm and around 130lbs. Would consider myself aggressive and a strong skier and athletic who loves to carve up groomers and do a little time off piste for a short part of the day (I used to be an instructor about 15 years ago also). But living in the UK I now only get to ski once a year and am considering getting my own equipment (again). But am finding that most mens skis are probably too long! Do you reckon the 168cm in this would be toooo big?
I think it's big. Especially for how the ski is supposed to perform--best to go under head high with something like this as it does prefer to act like a slalom ski. Check out a Salomon QST 92 for a mix of playfulness and short turning capabilities similar to those on the Mirus Cor.
Looks like they're making it in a 160cm length for 2025
A question specifically for Jeff! I’m pretty close to you in size at height. I sit at 5’11” and 175lbs.
I’m really eyeballing the Mirus Cor and with your experience on them do you wish you had gotten the 184 or do you think the 178 is perfect??
Nope, the 178 is perfect!
@@SkiEssentialsOkay awesome! I am demoing them Saturday and I am still a bit on the fence for which length I should get... Hard choice
@@SkiEssentials What if you lived in Colorado and might spend more time pushing these beyond the groomers and some time on the really steep pitches?
I have an Icelantic Nomad 105 in 181 and this is replacing/supplementing my Salomon NFX 182.
I'm guessing for our size and weight you wouldn't go up still but just have to ask.
Is there another ski in this super side cut twin tip class you would consider?
I've probably ruled out the Line Blade because I want narrower waisted. Just saw there's a Dynastar kind of in this class of weirdos.
I come from snowboarding and love moving all over the run and jumping all the little hits (but too old for the big park hits anymore). I enjoy riding fakie and want to start hitting or landing small hits fakie as well.
I should probably be happy with my Salomons but I'm really trying to carve a full circle, plus I want to get away from fully center mounted for steep stuff with any fresh snow.
Any thoughts on a super fun ski with crazy side cut for an old snowboard jibber who occasionally sneaks away from the family for a steep t-bar lap would be greatly appreciated. Probably getting a Mirus Cor 178.
@@DMDphotographyThe Line Sakana fits this bill pretty well. At 105 mm underfoot and with a swallow tail and a 15-meter radius, it's a crazy carver with a freeride flair.
Hello Guys ! Nice videos, i am 183cm (almost 6'1) and 75kilos (165) . I a wondering if i should buy the skis in 184cm or 178cm. I want to use those skis for groomer , park and side hit like threes and jump.
Should i go for the 184 or 178 ?
Thanks you guys !
I also want the ski to carve on groomer , bump !!
I'd go 178 in that ski!
What’s your number one binding choice for this ski?
Jeff's got the FKX/Pivot with a 95 brake on it and he likes it. I think there's a bit too much brake hang for the 87 mm waist--I'd put a Marker Jester 16 on it with the 90 mm brake.
I just checked on your website and I see you’re sold out of the gray ones. Do you know when you will have more in stock?
@@delriv5238 I don't think we're getting more bindings in until mid-summer when our 2025 order shows up. Salomon Strive 16 is another great option if you're looking for something immediately!
What’s the best mounting point for a directional skier?
I put a 3 degree bevel on these and they carve unlike anything I’ve ever touched
Cool! It's amazing what an extra degree will do to a ski, especially one like this!
Be fun to see a comparison between the Mirus Cor, the Blade, and the new Stöckli AS…all seem to be converging on a similar theme / emerging category.
How did the Montero AS got into this group I will never know…😅
@@tonyg3091 - all seem to be targeting a playful all-mountain carving niche.
@@bkaufmanmba Trust me, the Stockli will be nothing like the other two.
The AS is a different animal in that it is considerably more directional than the other two, although it is a very fun short-turning carver for sure, there's just a whole lot more power in the tail of that ski. Mirus Cor is considerably more symmetrical and playful, but is still on the precise side of the spectrum. I wouldn't call the Blade "precise." It's a bit more lumbering due to the width and weight and shape, but I really enjoy skiing the Blade a whole lot.
These skis look so fun, I bought some Atomic Mavericks last season so I don't want to upgrade so soon but damn im tempted.
I feel like the Mirus Cor is something you buy, keep in your quiver, and ski 5-10 times a year alongside more regular options. Would be a perfectly reasonable ski to own with a Maverick, for instance.
@@SkiEssentials Really not sure if I should get these or something wider like the Camox or even the Atris. I tend to find it hard to ski in deep snow with the Mavericks and I'm not sure if it's the way I ski or because the ski is fairly narrow with an 87mm waist (don't have anything to compare them to except shitty rentals). I don't really get the opportunity to go out much cos I ski in Australia and probably only ski for about 2 weeks max.
I'm thinking about going to Whistler Blackcomb for 4 months so if I end up doing that I'll for sure buy multiple pairs of skis, but if I end up staying in Australia I'll probably just go with the Mirus Cors to get the most fun out of my short window of skiing and tbh deep snow here is pretty rare.
ok - I'm sold but trying to decide on length - I'm 64 yrs old, expert skier who skis 30-40 days per year - weigh 195 lbs and am 5'9" tall - recommended length? 173? 178 ?
I'd go 173. It's pretty sharp underfoot and the fun part about it is maximizing the short turning ability.
Atomic Bent 90 or this ski Jeff?
If I were to get a ski for slopestyle-specific competition, I'd get a Bent 90. For pretty much all other applications, I'd take a Mirus Cor.
whats your red binding man
It's an older Rossignol FKS 18 in Floro Orange.
@@SkiEssentials i see，suitable with the ski
Are those two that we’re seeing the same ski ?
Structurally, yes. The one with Jeff's orange bindings is the more recent graphic.
Thank you, I'm a little old school and ski 75% on Piste . Im thinking these maybe to wide under foot for the short radius turns im used to, but then again I have 8 year old skis. And I hear the new tech has these turning like an old Olin 72 under foot. ???@@SkiEssentials
It's better that the orange on the Pivot doesn't exactly match, you don't want matchy matchy.
Perfect.
or the armada Stranger?
I'd say this is more of an "and" rather than an "or" as they're pretty different shapes overall. You could make an argument that this would be a sweet two-ski quiver. Sure, the Stranger has that shorter radius, but it's nowhere near as grippy or quick as the Mirus Cor. The Stranger is also less symmetrical and more directional, giving the Mirus Cor an interesting blend of playfulness and precision.
Where can I get one of those Black Crows hoodies?
You have to know someone that knows someone. And that someone has to work at Black Crows. Doesn't look like they have them online on their site.
Is this ski good at moguls and trees?
yes, although it's a bit different (no surprise here). The tails are wide, to accommodate the shorter radius, so it's not like they release easily all the time. You do have to be aware that there's a dramatic sidecut. Worst thing I felt was the tips and tails clacking together, but no real loss of performance.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks! What are some of your favorites for trees and moguls?
I don’t want my skis to have a butt crack.
But if you had to have an extra one, it would be a good place!
What if it was more Sakana shaped?
i would like to hear how you feel about this ski vs the other "fun carvers"
The twin tip shape and relatively symmetrical rocker profile really sets it apart from most. Gives it more playfulness and versatility. On the other hand, most of those other fun carvers don't have as much of a speed limit. The Mirus Cor stops wanting to carve at even moderate speeds, where anything with a flatter tail is going to hang on better.