I really enjoyed your video, I'm and American that has lived in China for 16+ years and purchased my first Chinese brand car, the Li Auto L7 Max about 4 months ago. Words can't express how much I absolutely love this car. The tech is amazing, the ride is so smooth with the air suspension and I can't even begin to describe how comfortable it is to drive. I basically use the all electric driving mode since most of the time I'm driving in the city but for the few times I made long trips it's nice to have the 1,000km range when driving in Hybrid mode. Similar to your L8 I went with the 21" wheels and I think it gives the car a nicer look. I completely agree with the title of your video .... This car would Smash the US Sales Chart !!!!!
That's awesome mate, so glad to hear it. It's great to get feedback from others and that you love it as an American says everything. It really is a brilliant car, all 3 of them. Enjoy it.
@itsomarz9337 Try it and tell me with a straight face that what I said is wrong. Likely those cars will drive much better in terms of handling, no doubt, that's the Li's weakest point, but the rest, this has got them cooked.
This model as a shooting brake would be pretty much perfect. Nice quality, well packed technology wise, several physical buttons, way more convenient than most EV or most hybrids, full of features, etc. Feels like a +100k car after all the options. If it came to Europe for 70k euros after taxes it would destroy the competition.
@@InsideChinaAuto they are 20years late. Nice car but everybody knows. Now it's EVs time. Why do u need an engine while you have 40kwh? Just add another 40 to long version. Co2 taxes are coming. This is bullshit. Like showing new generation of horses while cars are already available
@mateuszzareba3889 Well the good news is that Li are going to fully electric from the end of this year when their new car comes out. For now, there's a transition phase to be managed whereby people need steadily convincing that EVs can work for them, long or short distances. Li are handling this very well at the moment because their sales are going gangbusters in China.
We bought the L8 Pro. The AD driving is much better then the review tbh. You can fiddle with the settings to make it stop closer to the vehicle in front and it's much more responsive and "natural". The overtake is the only annoying part of the AD. Great review overall. Loving me L8 and even though I drive in Beijing, it's fun, comfortable and a very enjoyable.
Glad you're enjoying your L8, it is a great car. I just found that on many occasions it waited until right behind the car in front then thought about it a bit then eventually overtook. If you like maintaining momentum as I do it's just a bit annoying, but most ADAS systems are reactive rather than proactive which is their biggest failing. Overall a great car, I enjoyed it very much.
Your channel deserves more subs! Would be awesome to see a compilation of your Shanghai - Xi'An roadtrip footage. This car and the L9 are the ultimate family guy roadtrip weapons.
Thank you very much. If I earn them, I'll get them, it just takes time. As for the video, I hope I'll get round to it but these car companies won't stop making new stuff.
We just bought that car and it's amazing how much you get for the money. Don't think there's anything even close to it on the European market for about 45k (i think), i heard they are heavily supported by the government to realize those prices and wonder how much it will be once it sells overseas. Would be amazing if they aim for similar prices. Don't think its comparable to a gls tho - at least not yet
Glad you're enjoying the car. It's quite an incredible vehicle with a lot of kit and great accommodation of the whole family. I think it's right up there with the GLS on a lot of stuff apart from the dynamism which is a bit more boaty but is very comfortable.
i see your point and they certainly aim for the luxurious classes of Mercedes (even the seller told us it's just like a Mercedes). We got some extras like the fridge and tables and i think they are half there - which is great as it's less than half the price. @@InsideChinaAuto
i hope it comes with PHEV version made with range extender generator, like INNengine amazing tech. does the L8 have places for screws on roof to install roof racks & basket?
I am traveling in china and saw the car in the shop, the battery is now 52.3 kwh. It is amazing. The workmanship is above and beyond anything i saw before. I looked at Tesla and lexus in comparison, LI auto is better than lexus and of course tesla. For the price of model Y, you can have this car that can travel 1400 km on a single tank of gas. Now I understand why elon musk is worried. This is the real deal, why would any one buy tesla if you can have this.
The downside is, of course, that this burns fuel, but I can only agree with everything you said about the fit and finish. There's not another brand I've tried that squeezes as many soft surfaces into it than Li Auto. The lack of plastic things to touch is incredible. They feel so plush.
At some point I suspect they will but it may take some time. Europe seems to be the first priority because there's a few hurdles to get past with the US being so afraid of good competition.
I don't own one I'm afraid (though my wife would like to) so can't say if there are any service issues with them. I've not heard of any, I can say that at least. It's a simple system, not a great deal to go wrong. Not sure how good your Chinese is but you might consider checking a Li owners group. If there are any common issues you'd find them there first since they're all basically the same system.
@@InsideChinaAuto Thanks for responding. Good idea to reach out to an owners group. My wife wants to wait for the 2025 L8 that is supposed to have battery only, but not sure when the rollout is. Either way, thanks for responding.
@@BlockchaininChina No problem. Yes, they will bring out an M8 at some point, so a battery only SUV, maybe before the end of the year. It won't look anything like this, think more a jacked up MEGA that's a bit less odd, albeit still a bit unusual for an SUV.
Which came first, the L8 (or perhaps L9 is an even better example) or the Xpeng G9? The exterior looks fairly similar to me, and so does the 2 screen interior. I find that many of the Chinese EVs share many design elements, although there are lots of exceptions of course (like Hongqi and HiPhi).
Sure. I believe the L9 came first (and the same design goes for L8 and L7) though G9 was very shortly after so no chance to copy, it's just that Chinese consumers demand many screens and there's no point putting a 15-inch screen behind the steering wheel so they put one where it would go normally and another for the passenger.
Amazing car! I haven’t try that but many people think highly of it 😂 but I have no much interest on HAVAL’s cars because they always copy the other’s exterior 😂
"When I dare to be powerful, to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid." -Audre Lorde
Our family of 4 are very close to buying the L8 so this review is very timely. I have a question, does the car require a home/apartment charging point or does the engine take care of the battery thus meaning it doesn't ever necessarily need to be charged?
Good timing indeed. You don't ever have to plug it in. You can if you want to never use fuel but if you don't have charging at home, no problem. The engine charges the battery, that's all it does, essentially giving you the EV driving experience with the longer range of fuel.
@2002metube You don't drive to charge the battery to full, you drive to maintain charge that drives the motors, so you'll always have EV drive if you have fuel or battery life. Usually using fuel will maintain your battery level roughly as it is. UI doesn't yet have English though.
@@InsideChinaAuto Thanks for the info, just another quick question, does that mean you don’t really need to charge the battery, since the petrol engine does that for you?
@ibrahimismailoglu359 Sure. Obviously you wouldn't get Li Auto support but there should be decent servicing options from 3rd party brands who can deal in EVs and ICE cars as you'll need a bit of both.
I'm searching but there are no other companies that bring it. It doesn't have to be Germany. If any company in Europe brings it, I can buy it right away.
Haha, they don't make them in RHD yet. It's quite a bit of work to make that happen. I also hope they get there, though they may feel quite big on UK roads. Bloody lovely cars though. I say that whilst sat in the driver's seat of an L7.
@InsideChinaAuto Hi...thanks for the review...i think prices have come down and if importing, it is evev better priced than a year ago when the review was done due to yuan weakening against the USD.. One question...would the map work for navigation if exported? is it built in map or can be mirrored from phone?
My uncle left school without any qualifications and he's the most successful of anyone in our family with business. Sometimes you just need to know people and have business sense. Li Xiang seems to have that.
Should probably try to learn some Chinese then, or at least memoriae what's in there. My Chinese isn't great but I've never had an issue with these or using what's in them.
@@InsideChinaAuto You reviewed the car, did you not take a closer look? FYI, the Chinese have never made an internal combustion engine of their own design. Of the 200+ Chinese car manufacturers, the majority use either Isuzu or Mitsubishi engines and transmissions, licensed or copied, same goes for platforms. Chinese car makers assemble cars like they assemble phones, parts bin manufacturing. I stand corrected, the 1.5 designated CE15F is manufactured by Xinchen China Power made under licence from *PSA Peugeot Citroën BMW*
It's made pretty clear in the video this is an extended range electric vehicle, which means it has an electric drivetrain supported by an onboard engine for extended range. The car can be operated purely electrically without any fuel if desired, so while it may not be the most efficient setup, it can technically be an EV.
hybrid is not an EV? why do they receive the same amount of tax credits/benefits then? like it or not it s still considered an EV even if it is not a fully EV.
I don't have any contact with "China", whoever this is. I'm here in my own back presenting the picture of what's going on. Don't trust me? Then go read some articles from the journalists who came over for the Shanghai Auto Show last month and see how surprised they were. I can only help give you a soft landing for when these cars arrive.
@@InsideChinaAutomost weterners have no clue what the parellel world is like. they keep reading the nonsense fed by MSM. all they need is an air ticket to go to the future.
I really enjoyed your video, I'm and American that has lived in China for 16+ years and purchased my first Chinese brand car, the Li Auto L7 Max about 4 months ago. Words can't express how much I absolutely love this car. The tech is amazing, the ride is so smooth with the air suspension and I can't even begin to describe how comfortable it is to drive. I basically use the all electric driving mode since most of the time I'm driving in the city but for the few times I made long trips it's nice to have the 1,000km range when driving in Hybrid mode. Similar to your L8 I went with the 21" wheels and I think it gives the car a nicer look. I completely agree with the title of your video .... This car would Smash the US Sales Chart !!!!!
That's awesome mate, so glad to hear it. It's great to get feedback from others and that you love it as an American says everything. It really is a brilliant car, all 3 of them. Enjoy it.
This car is the most successful EV in China now,and it is becoming a BMW and Mercedes killer very quickly
Indeed. The L9, which is a little bigger, is basically up against GLS and X7 and it's twice the car either of them are.
Maybe in your dreams 😂
@itsomarz9337 Try it and tell me with a straight face that what I said is wrong. Likely those cars will drive much better in terms of handling, no doubt, that's the Li's weakest point, but the rest, this has got them cooked.
BMWs are prestige cars with high status!Li auto evs are great but companys and brands like Li come and go!
@@brunoheggli2888so the perceived difference is in your head and not the car. Got it.
I test drove the L7 last month in Shenzhen, top-notched, both in and out!
Great car isn't it? Really nice interiors.
This model as a shooting brake would be pretty much perfect. Nice quality, well packed technology wise, several physical buttons, way more convenient than most EV or most hybrids, full of features, etc. Feels like a +100k car after all the options.
If it came to Europe for 70k euros after taxes it would destroy the competition.
Couldn't agree more, it would eat them for breakfast.
@@InsideChinaAuto they are 20years late. Nice car but everybody knows. Now it's EVs time. Why do u need an engine while you have 40kwh? Just add another 40 to long version. Co2 taxes are coming. This is bullshit. Like showing new generation of horses while cars are already available
@mateuszzareba3889 Well the good news is that Li are going to fully electric from the end of this year when their new car comes out. For now, there's a transition phase to be managed whereby people need steadily convincing that EVs can work for them, long or short distances. Li are handling this very well at the moment because their sales are going gangbusters in China.
Nobody will buy china shit without proper support for 70k.
would love it!
We bought the L8 Pro. The AD driving is much better then the review tbh. You can fiddle with the settings to make it stop closer to the vehicle in front and it's much more responsive and "natural". The overtake is the only annoying part of the AD. Great review overall. Loving me L8 and even though I drive in Beijing, it's fun, comfortable and a very enjoyable.
Glad you're enjoying your L8, it is a great car. I just found that on many occasions it waited until right behind the car in front then thought about it a bit then eventually overtook. If you like maintaining momentum as I do it's just a bit annoying, but most ADAS systems are reactive rather than proactive which is their biggest failing. Overall a great car, I enjoyed it very much.
Your channel deserves more subs! Would be awesome to see a compilation of your Shanghai - Xi'An roadtrip footage. This car and the L9 are the ultimate family guy roadtrip weapons.
Thank you very much. If I earn them, I'll get them, it just takes time. As for the video, I hope I'll get round to it but these car companies won't stop making new stuff.
Hey Mark, this is Kathy, was sitting on the edge of seat to wait for ur update, finally here it comes, great job, mate, keep up the good job~
Glad you like it Kathy. Next up in about a week.
We need more chinese cars in the US
Certainly need more competition. This one would do so well there, it's right up your street.
That blue paint colour is lush! ❤
It's a great colour, looks really strong. They also have really beautiful green and purple colours.
We just bought that car and it's amazing how much you get for the money. Don't think there's anything even close to it on the European market for about 45k (i think), i heard they are heavily supported by the government to realize those prices and wonder how much it will be once it sells overseas. Would be amazing if they aim for similar prices. Don't think its comparable to a gls tho - at least not yet
Glad you're enjoying the car. It's quite an incredible vehicle with a lot of kit and great accommodation of the whole family. I think it's right up there with the GLS on a lot of stuff apart from the dynamism which is a bit more boaty but is very comfortable.
i see your point and they certainly aim for the luxurious classes of Mercedes (even the seller told us it's just like a Mercedes). We got some extras like the fridge and tables and i think they are half there - which is great as it's less than half the price. @@InsideChinaAuto
@TheDHavana Sounds marvelous. The fridge is a great choice, especially when it's baking hot in summer.
well explained mate great stuff
Cheers.
i hope it comes with PHEV version made with range extender generator, like INNengine amazing tech. does the L8 have places for screws on roof to install roof racks & basket?
Good question. I'll have to check that. Can't say I noticed but will take a look for you next time I see one.
idk but I have seen lots of L8 with racks
I am traveling in china and saw the car in the shop, the battery is now 52.3 kwh. It is amazing. The workmanship is above and beyond anything i saw before. I looked at Tesla and lexus in comparison, LI auto is better than lexus and of course tesla. For the price of model Y, you can have this car that can travel 1400 km on a single tank of gas. Now I understand why elon musk is worried. This is the real deal, why would any one buy tesla if you can have this.
The downside is, of course, that this burns fuel, but I can only agree with everything you said about the fit and finish. There's not another brand I've tried that squeezes as many soft surfaces into it than Li Auto. The lack of plastic things to touch is incredible. They feel so plush.
When we going to see a review with the L7!!
I'll see what I can do!
Will them awesome looking Chinese cars come to Canada 🇨🇦?
unlikely. usa will ban canada from importing chinese evs.
At some point I suspect they will but it may take some time. Europe seems to be the first priority because there's a few hurdles to get past with the US being so afraid of good competition.
Li don't wanna be banned by the reason of national security 🤣🤣
@michelwan9073 National security simply meaning 'protecting our own car industry because we can't make cars as good as these'.
We live in Chongqing and looking to buy the L8. Great review.. thanks for the details. Any service issues that you've experienced?
I don't own one I'm afraid (though my wife would like to) so can't say if there are any service issues with them. I've not heard of any, I can say that at least. It's a simple system, not a great deal to go wrong. Not sure how good your Chinese is but you might consider checking a Li owners group. If there are any common issues you'd find them there first since they're all basically the same system.
@@InsideChinaAuto Thanks for responding. Good idea to reach out to an owners group. My wife wants to wait for the 2025 L8 that is supposed to have battery only, but not sure when the rollout is.
Either way, thanks for responding.
@@BlockchaininChina No problem. Yes, they will bring out an M8 at some point, so a battery only SUV, maybe before the end of the year. It won't look anything like this, think more a jacked up MEGA that's a bit less odd, albeit still a bit unusual for an SUV.
l9 is the new status symbol at 1/2 price.
Incredible car and excellent value.
If its 1/2 price then its not status symbol,than its just a good deal!
L9 is slightly more expensive than the L8?
L9 is 45w fully equiped but L8 low option can be 10w less?@@danieledwards9856
Love the blue color on this car. Also like that it is a hybrid for the flexibility.
You and many happy customers too. It is a great colour.
Which came first, the L8 (or perhaps L9 is an even better example) or the Xpeng G9? The exterior looks fairly similar to me, and so does the 2 screen interior. I find that many of the Chinese EVs share many design elements, although there are lots of exceptions of course (like Hongqi and HiPhi).
Sure. I believe the L9 came first (and the same design goes for L8 and L7) though G9 was very shortly after so no chance to copy, it's just that Chinese consumers demand many screens and there's no point putting a 15-inch screen behind the steering wheel so they put one where it would go normally and another for the passenger.
Please do a review on the new WEY Lanshan 6 seats
Will do my best to get hold of one. Great Wall brands are not easy to get hold of but I'll give it a go.
Amazing car! I haven’t try that but many people think highly of it 😂 but I have no much interest on HAVAL’s cars because they always copy the other’s exterior 😂
"When I dare to be powerful, to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid." -Audre Lorde
Lovely quote, very appropriate.
Our family of 4 are very close to buying the L8 so this review is very timely. I have a question, does the car require a home/apartment charging point or does the engine take care of the battery thus meaning it doesn't ever necessarily need to be charged?
Good timing indeed. You don't ever have to plug it in. You can if you want to never use fuel but if you don't have charging at home, no problem. The engine charges the battery, that's all it does, essentially giving you the EV driving experience with the longer range of fuel.
@@InsideChinaAuto thank you, you made my day.
@@InsideChinaAuto How Far Do I Need to Drive to Charge Full Battery? & Does UI Supports English ?
@2002metube You don't drive to charge the battery to full, you drive to maintain charge that drives the motors, so you'll always have EV drive if you have fuel or battery life. Usually using fuel will maintain your battery level roughly as it is. UI doesn't yet have English though.
@@InsideChinaAuto got it! Just one more last question! Does it have Regenerative braking feature like tesla?
No car in the world has those quality displays now
Certainly not that I know if. These Li Autos are very impressive cars.
Any word on Li launching in Europe?
No word yet. Suggestions are 2027 earliest, but keep an eye out for announcements soon.
Does the 1.5T engine charge the battery while driving?
It does. In fact that's all it does. It's purely there to charge the battery. So the car drives like an EV but gets the extra range of petrol.
@@InsideChinaAuto Thanks for the info, just another quick question, does that mean you don’t really need to charge the battery, since the petrol engine does that for you?
@marcomessina8259 Exactly. In reality you never need to plug it in, but you can if you prefer to save a lot of money.
@@InsideChinaAuto Thanks, much appreciated.
when will this car arrive in europe?
Very good question. We don't know yet, Li have been very quiet on when they may go abroad. I'd say maybe a couple of years still but not sure.
I'm thinking of waiting 1 more year and importing it to Germany, but the service problem also makes me think.
@ibrahimismailoglu359 Sure. Obviously you wouldn't get Li Auto support but there should be decent servicing options from 3rd party brands who can deal in EVs and ICE cars as you'll need a bit of both.
I'm searching but there are no other companies that bring it. It doesn't have to be Germany. If any company in Europe brings it, I can buy it right away.
@@ibrahimismailoglu359 I know somebody who does an exporting business here, let me ask him.
Amazing car as long as everything works for years
Agreed. Let's see if it passes the test of time.
The danger of having 3 kids fighting fot the gesture control in the backseats is real😂
Haha. I can only imagine.
When Li auto goes to the European market?
No news yet I'm afraid. Hopeful they will at some point but nothing yet.
Thanks for replying. Will hope for positive news about that in the nearest future :)
And where is the range test?
Apologies, I haven't gotten round to putting the video together yet, been a bit swamped with new stuff.
Menu it's in English or only Chinese?
Only Chinese now but I've heard an update is coming this year with English.
@@InsideChinaAuto when we going to see a review with the new NIO EC6?
@@claus2463 Hopefully soon. Trying to get hold of one but currently on Chinese holidays.
Does the infotainment system support English in China?
Currently no. I haven't seen an English system in a Li yet.
Already in the plan.
Can't wait for the Li Auto advent in the UK. I suspect this won't be before 2026. I wonder if they export RHS driving cars if ordered in China!
Haha, they don't make them in RHD yet. It's quite a bit of work to make that happen. I also hope they get there, though they may feel quite big on UK roads. Bloody lovely cars though. I say that whilst sat in the driver's seat of an L7.
@@InsideChinaAuto I drive anXC90 T8 and it feels large enough in the roads here. I will encouragee my brother-in-law in Dubai to import one
@yaseentv1078 Good choice with the XC90. Should be pretty easy to get a Li in Dubai though.
@InsideChinaAuto
Hi...thanks for the review...i think prices have come down and if importing, it is evev better priced than a year ago when the review was done due to yuan weakening against the USD..
One question...would the map work for navigation if exported? is it built in map or can be mirrored from phone?
the founder of Li auto is just Highschool graduate, and didn't even study at university
My uncle left school without any qualifications and he's the most successful of anyone in our family with business. Sometimes you just need to know people and have business sense. Li Xiang seems to have that.
WHEN THIS BE AVAIBLE IN EUROPE
Good question. No earlier than 2026 from what Li have been saying, sadly.
Good for families.
It's exactly the car for families, probably the best available.
Why?
It's impressive
It is indeed.
the interior looks extremely plush. and the back passengers are going to be spoiled.
Exactly that. Lovely soft interior, great place to sit anywhere in the car if you're the right size.
good review, but i think you missed the biggest selling point of the car. the AI control system, but that only operates in Chinese at this moment.
And they didn't have that when I reviewed it, but I did cover it in my OTA 5.0 video which you'll find on the channel.
i am not talking about the auto drive, just the Li voice control which is through its AI system, but chinese only i believe@@InsideChinaAuto
That’s a great car but the problem for foreigners who doesn’t speak Chinese most of the options is useless
Should probably try to learn some Chinese then, or at least memoriae what's in there. My Chinese isn't great but I've never had an issue with these or using what's in them.
Lets see what's under the hood...
An engine. 1.5-litre range extender.
@@InsideChinaAuto I know it's there, but I'm curious to see how it's packaged.
@peterscott2662 Might be able to see it on my L7 video I think. It's fairly similar.
RIP legacy auto
Can't help feeling the same if this gets to Europe at a good price.
Hahaha, no more shorts on the vid. any more?
Haha, you want to see my legs? Summer is coming, the shorts will definitely return.
Inside looks dull. Nio looks far better.
Have to disagree there. The interior of this is such a lovely place.
Me too- Li interior beats Nio hands down. Especially vs the new ES8.
WTFis noa?
It's the name of their ADAS system, 'Navigation on Autopilot' I believe is the full name.
The engine and transmission is Isuzu. The platform is a copy from some other manufacturer.
Proof for the accusations?
@@InsideChinaAuto ignore the Troll. 🙂 this car does not even have a transmission. 🙄
@johnsmith-cw3wo Indeed. No idea what car he thinks it is.
@@InsideChinaAuto You reviewed the car, did you not take a closer look? FYI, the Chinese have never made an internal combustion engine of their own design. Of the 200+ Chinese car manufacturers, the majority use either Isuzu or Mitsubishi engines and transmissions, licensed or copied, same goes for platforms. Chinese car makers assemble cars like they assemble phones, parts bin manufacturing.
I stand corrected, the 1.5 designated CE15F is manufactured by Xinchen China Power made under licence from *PSA Peugeot Citroën BMW*
@@stephenc6955 Combustion engine? The Longer You Live In The Past, The Less Future You Have To Enjoy
Hybrid is not an EV.
It's made pretty clear in the video this is an extended range electric vehicle, which means it has an electric drivetrain supported by an onboard engine for extended range. The car can be operated purely electrically without any fuel if desired, so while it may not be the most efficient setup, it can technically be an EV.
It is a 90% EV,because there are a lot people never use gasoline after buying this car
hybrid is not an EV? why do they receive the same amount of tax credits/benefits then? like it or not it s still considered an EV even if it is not a fully EV.
lol is china making you do these vids
I'm betting you'll stop laughing once you'll drive this car.
I don't have any contact with "China", whoever this is. I'm here in my own back presenting the picture of what's going on. Don't trust me? Then go read some articles from the journalists who came over for the Shanghai Auto Show last month and see how surprised they were. I can only help give you a soft landing for when these cars arrive.
This guy knows what I'm talking about.
@@InsideChinaAutomost weterners have no clue what the parellel world is like. they keep reading the nonsense fed by MSM. all they need is an air ticket to go to the future.
@@InsideChinaAuto thank you for stepping up to western bigots. More people need to fight this rising trend of fascism against china.