Love the fact that Mathis knew how bond was struggling with the dead of vesper..with his pain, frustration and saddness. Hé didn't mention it, but it is there with him.
It's not Vesper, it's the way he was blinded by her, he was surrendered, gave everything, enchanted by her(I mean, she's played by Eva Green), but all he got was being stabbed in the back, his mission being destroyed, the money being handed over to his enemies, and everything Vesper's been doing, every decision she made was a veiled bunch of attempts to undermine him from the get go. It was she who told Le Chiffre about the tell so that he can trick Bond, she didn't refinance him to make sure Bond won't win, she lured Bond into that fucking trap where they nearly destroyed his testicles, and she just betrayed him again, after all that's been between them. She killed herself, when she realised no way she can make it up to him, I mean, she was in a desperate situation and had Bond managed to save her, the torment was gonna be endless for her. She was walking to her death every single day, knowingly and Bond was just too fucking stupidly in love to notice any of it. So he just can't abide living with that. He's not letting himself to grieve Vesper because she betrayed him big time, he can't let himself to hate her because he loved her, and deep down, he knows Vesper was just trapped in a scheme.
The bond movies reflect the masculinity of their time. What a man can do, what he should do but also what a man is allowed to do. Sean Connery was just there to follow orders and sleep with women. Craig is allowed to love, to grief, to show weakness and to make mistakes. His character is a role model for all to-be men in this time and takes the pressure off their shoulders.
After seeing no time time to die and seeing the tribute to Vesper , I went back to watch casino Royale , and their relationship is harrowingly tragic bond was willing to give up everything for her and Vesper was willing to send the world into oblivion to save James bond , she cut a deal with the terrorist organisation to spare bonds life and give them the money on a later date , she couldn't live with her betrayal , When Vesper died so did James bond and only 007 Remained.
This scene is much, much better written than I remembered. Direction and acting is strong is some aspects too. I particularly like the look Mathis gives Bond when he realizes what drink he's having. He certainly understands it's all Vesper, but doesn't inquire. Forster definitely should've slowed it down a bit. The dialogue is too tight and the scene barely breathes. The actors on the screen are competent and could've communicated in silence.
Mathis seems to understand but we certainly don't know for sure since a man has to have loved AND HAVE BEEN LOVED unconditionly to understand Vesper thing but again a class man like Mathis looks like he does have been loved in his life. AT LEAST once.
I just realised by rewatching this, that Bond refuses to tell what he's drinking himself because he named the martini Vesper. A very subtle way of story telling Too bad the director just had too much coffee before editing all this
Fun fact: this is actually almost word for word how Ian Fleming discribes the Vesper martini in the Casino Royale Novel with only two differences. One being that Bond wants in a champagne glass, and he doesn’t say “ which is not vermouth”. Everything else is pretty much spot on
Yeah.. It's interesting watching this today. I was like this in Greece when the hotel barman approached me and I shut the lid of my laptop and he said "we're closing down for tonight" while I was in the middle of writing to a woman, someone I knew was a lost cause.
Agreed. I’ve had them before in the bar at Duke’s - the hotel where Fleming allegedly invented them - and they only allow you two. I had one to finish a night off and it nearly finished me off!
I drank 5 before the premiere of Spectre at the bar outside the theater on top of multiple beers so stop being a pussy. Still drove home and only killed 6 people on the way. Commit to it or don’t comment
6 is also my record in a bar... surprisingly I wasn't as fucked as as I should have been, even the bartender was surprised as he made my 6 and he did not dilute. Though I was 21, since then I have not been able to top the previous record without being absolutely smashed 😂
I always assumed he was just being a drunken asshole talking down to the bartender. Sure he must've instructed the bartender initially as to how to make it
I was late to watching casino royale but when I bought it on dvd eventually I watched everyday for a week just mesmerised, so went straight out and bought quantum of solace to continue riding the high Craigs first movie gave me ......................... by halfway through watching it I wished I ate pig diarrhea instead of buying that
I think James is dead when Vesper died Only 007 Bond stay « in life », deal with grief, pain and sort of revenge … I’ll never be able to forget the short but intense moment with Vesper, it means so much to him And the Vesper’s song in tje background *dead*
That's why i loved the reboot timeline of james bond Daniel Craig it was more senses tone and overrated series and more grounded and tougher bond and dramatic realistic better than original/classic timeline and much Craig more started love live vesper better than tracy i am truly like the Craig version better than other version of bonds
Even to this day I still don't understand why Bond keeps thinking of that double-crosser she was no good to him I guess Bond was right about one thing she was a bloody idiot but in my opinion she was nothing but a stone-cold double-crosser. I don't even like the recent Bond girl because I know what she is like
You're lacking any sort of sense and debth to think that. Bond let his guard down, he was actually happy with her, had a reason to live and left the whole MI-6 thing behind for her. All movie long, Bond's cool control, his poker face and how cocksure he was of himself was at the centre. It's because the way he was betrayed by her, he can't ever forgive her. But it's because the way he lost her, he can't forgive himself. Had he been a bit more alert, a bit more perceptive, he could sense Vesper's predicament, she was trapped in all this but he chose to just think he has the world now that he has her. And the result was catastrophe What I don't like is how they just threw this Bond tone out the window and turned to a very jaded, tired and wasted 007 in next movies
Кино
Vespers theme, that plays in the background is haunting
Love the fact that Mathis knew how bond was struggling with the dead of vesper..with his pain, frustration and saddness. Hé didn't mention it, but it is there with him.
Vesper was his everything❤️
As was Tracy.
And he hasn't met Tracey yet, at least in this timeline.
@@1968royboy tracey was replaced with vesper guys..
It's not Vesper, it's the way he was blinded by her, he was surrendered, gave everything, enchanted by her(I mean, she's played by Eva Green), but all he got was being stabbed in the back, his mission being destroyed, the money being handed over to his enemies, and everything Vesper's been doing, every decision she made was a veiled bunch of attempts to undermine him from the get go.
It was she who told Le Chiffre about the tell so that he can trick Bond, she didn't refinance him to make sure Bond won't win, she lured Bond into that fucking trap where they nearly destroyed his testicles, and she just betrayed him again, after all that's been between them.
She killed herself, when she realised no way she can make it up to him, I mean, she was in a desperate situation and had Bond managed to save her, the torment was gonna be endless for her.
She was walking to her death every single day, knowingly and Bond was just too fucking stupidly in love to notice any of it.
So he just can't abide living with that. He's not letting himself to grieve Vesper because she betrayed him big time, he can't let himself to hate her because he loved her, and deep down, he knows Vesper was just trapped in a scheme.
Madeleine !!!
The bond movies reflect the masculinity of their time. What a man can do, what he should do but also what a man is allowed to do. Sean Connery was just there to follow orders and sleep with women. Craig is allowed to love, to grief, to show weakness and to make mistakes. His character is a role model for all to-be men in this time and takes the pressure off their shoulders.
After seeing no time time to die and seeing the tribute to Vesper , I went back to watch casino Royale , and their relationship is harrowingly tragic bond was willing to give up everything for her and Vesper was willing to send the world into oblivion to save James bond , she cut a deal with the terrorist organisation to spare bonds life and give them the money on a later date , she couldn't live with her betrayal , When Vesper died so did James bond and only 007 Remained.
That was deep.
Wrong she betrayed him mostly to save her ex boyfriends life 😂that necklace she had and carried through most of the film was her ex boyfriends
She was honey potted and fell for it
Sometimes in life, it takes one person to change your life forever....for better or worse.
@@agnesw4189 Very true
This scene is much, much better written than I remembered. Direction and acting is strong is some aspects too. I particularly like the look Mathis gives Bond when he realizes what drink he's having. He certainly understands it's all Vesper, but doesn't inquire.
Forster definitely should've slowed it down a bit. The dialogue is too tight and the scene barely breathes. The actors on the screen are competent and could've communicated in silence.
Honestly one of the few well written scenes in this film
Mathis seems to understand but we certainly don't know for sure since a man has to have loved AND HAVE BEEN LOVED unconditionly to understand Vesper thing but again a class man like Mathis looks like he does have been loved in his life. AT LEAST once.
it’s the strongest part of the movie and is over too fast
@@warrenrhinerson6373 most scenes were written the day of shooting due to the writer’s strike
Quite the opposite im thinking showing weakness and beeing drunk tells us bond is Really suffering
" some make you forget."
I just realised by rewatching this, that Bond refuses to tell what he's drinking himself because he named the martini Vesper. A very subtle way of story telling
Too bad the director just had too much coffee before editing all this
He’s a great actor! The music…You actually feel his pain here.
Bond was emotionally broken
I miss vesper I come back to this memory too much 😢😔
Fun fact: this is actually almost word for word how Ian Fleming discribes the Vesper martini in the Casino Royale Novel with only two differences. One being that Bond wants in a champagne glass, and he doesn’t say “ which is not vermouth”. Everything else is pretty much spot on
James Bond is my favourite movie and it’s amazing film
Chaz Timpson which of which of the like 24 or 25 that they have?
Yeah.. It's interesting watching this today. I was like this in Greece when the hotel barman approached me and I shut the lid of my laptop and he said "we're closing down for tonight" while I was in the middle of writing to a woman, someone I knew was a lost cause.
Way to call him out like that Mr Bartender! He asked what am I drinking not how many!
Six of them....that IS impressive, and I'm a heavy drinker...with all the ingredients of that martini that's over a fifth of liquor
byronius5 had 3 one night and was hungover for 3 days lol
Agreed. I’ve had them before in the bar at Duke’s - the hotel where Fleming allegedly invented them - and they only allow you two. I had one to finish a night off and it nearly finished me off!
@@psm1167 there was a time when I could get up to that level
I drank 5 before the premiere of Spectre at the bar outside the theater on top of multiple beers so stop being a pussy. Still drove home and only killed 6 people on the way. Commit to it or don’t comment
Yes iam …
The DVD closed captions said Bond "*sniffles*" here and it lives rent-free.
6 is also my record in a bar... surprisingly I wasn't as fucked as as I should have been, even the bartender was surprised as he made my 6 and he did not dilute. Though I was 21, since then I have not been able to top the previous record without being absolutely smashed 😂
Thought two would be the limit
Such a lie mate shut up 😭
this is how i feel about my ex who betrayed me
Don't mix pills with booze.
本当に良い映画でした。
It’s funny how he couldn’t remember the drink when he was the one who created it in Casino Royale.
if he can't remember it then how the bartender knew it?
He didn't wanted to tell bcz he named this drink after Versper's Name.
I always assumed he was just being a drunken asshole talking down to the bartender. Sure he must've instructed the bartender initially as to how to make it
Is it true?
He was probably mentally lazy from the drinking. I know the feel.
I was late to watching casino royale but when I bought it on dvd eventually I watched everyday for a week just mesmerised, so went straight out and bought quantum of solace to continue riding the high Craigs first movie gave me ......................... by halfway through watching it I wished I ate pig diarrhea instead of buying that
Best martini ever ❤️😑
True
cool
This movie as a whole was a bust, but this is one of the few quality scenes.
Quantum live in 3 scenes: this scene, Mathys's death and the ending...
No, it was not a bust. The last bond movie was a bust. And maybe this new one coming out.
I know this is 6 years old, but I just saw it for the first time and found it to be nowhere near as bad as everyone says.
Apparently it went thru several rewrites
Gods i know how Bond felt. My ex just made me want to drink myself to a complete coma
Which movie?
They should make a movie with that role, instead she should be named Pauline aka Christine Granville aka Krystyna Skarbek.
Just let it go
Six Vesper martinis. Not sure if İ should be impressed or concerned for his liver..
This scene destroys me...
А есть на русском эта версия?
I think James is dead when Vesper died
Only 007 Bond stay « in life », deal with grief, pain and sort of revenge …
I’ll never be able to forget the short but intense moment with Vesper, it means so much to him
And the Vesper’s song in tje background *dead*
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That's why i loved the reboot timeline of james bond Daniel Craig it was more senses tone and overrated series and more grounded and tougher bond and dramatic realistic better than original/classic timeline and much Craig more started love live vesper better than tracy i am truly like the Craig version better than other version of bonds
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Done this....2019
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Even to this day I still don't understand why Bond keeps thinking of that double-crosser she was no good to him I guess Bond was right about one thing she was a bloody idiot but in my opinion she was nothing but a stone-cold double-crosser. I don't even like the recent Bond girl because I know what she is like
You're lacking any sort of sense and debth to think that. Bond let his guard down, he was actually happy with her, had a reason to live and left the whole MI-6 thing behind for her.
All movie long, Bond's cool control, his poker face and how cocksure he was of himself was at the centre. It's because the way he was betrayed by her, he can't ever forgive her. But it's because the way he lost her, he can't forgive himself.
Had he been a bit more alert, a bit more perceptive, he could sense Vesper's predicament, she was trapped in all this but he chose to just think he has the world now that he has her.
And the result was catastrophe
What I don't like is how they just threw this Bond tone out the window and turned to a very jaded, tired and wasted 007 in next movies
She had issues but she is not just a stone-cold double-crosser. She made a deal so that Mr White wouldn't kill Bond.