Unfortunately if your in California some people may want to leave it EPA complaint 😭😭😭 No such thing of the "Land of the FREE" anymore 😭😭😭😭 May all your days be Harley days🖤🧡🖤 Safe travels 🙏♥️🐾🐾🇦🇺
Yes. They are a quality made product and super street friendly for low down grunt. Even the older ones like my pre '03 SEII's make start ups much easier on a carb'd scoot. So damn heavy but made to last.
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2010 FLHTK - S&S 583 cams and dyno tuned. I went with a Bassani 2-x-2 header with SE slip-ons. Great torque, good HP, exhaust note is barky under pressure, rumbles like it should, and most importantly, doesn't kill my ear drums when doing 70+ scooting down the highway for hours on end.
I have a 21 roadglide Limited. I have a star 30/30 cam, S&S intake, SE headpipe, and Vance and Hines mufflers. I couldn't be happier. Take 600-mile trips often during the summer. The secret is buy SE system used. Most times, people just want to unload it. Cut and weld the proper size outlets. Paid 300 bucks for my SE header, 200 for the Vance and Hines mufflers.
I've run V/H, Screamin Eagle, Cobra and Rinehart exhausts. IMO the only reason to run SE is if you want a tad bit more rumble but still keep the decibels down. There is very little to no performance benefit with a slight noise increase. Rinehart is by far my favorite choice. Sound is fantastic w/out being obnoxious. Probably some performance too, but let's be honest nobody is adding slip on's for performance. My current bike does have a full Rinehart with headers and it's performance is mildly better than slip on's alone.
Appreciate this response. As a new rider, what you describe is EXACTLY my objective. I simply want more sonic presence on my ‘23 Fat Boy. I’m not looking for a performance boost and want to retain the look, though I have considered the shorter, downward curved slip-ons as I have heard them (in other videos) and liked the sound. Based on viewing several other videos, I too like the Rineharts, (though a recent video I’ve seen regarding Khrome Werks slip-ons REALLY got my attention). But all of this has produced a question for me, that I do believe was partially addressed in this video. Again, being new and trying to do research and hearing about this “Stage 1 Upgrade”, which again, I don’t feel I’m trying to do, my question is, if all I want is to improve the “sound” of the bike, i.e., make it a bit louder and give it more low end rumble, can I simply replace the “great looking, but weak sounding” stock tail pipes with a more preferred pair of slip-ons? Or will the bike then need to be re-tuned, taking me into the “Stage 1 Upgrade” arena?
I have an old (and pretty reliable) 2002 Softail Deuce and I went back from a Vance & Hines short shots exhaust system to a full stock exhaust system again and I could not be more satisfied. I just could not bear that V & H noise anymore, especially on longer trips (thousand plus miles) Yeah, call me crazy but I just enjoy the silence more.
Great post, Felipe! And “I” don’t think it’s crazy. I’m not looking for “loud”, but I would prefer a bit more rumble on my ‘23 Fat Boy, and the ability to make it known I’m coming through at low speeds, when lane splitting (which as a new rider, I haven’t yet done, though I’m comfortable with my low speed riding). Honestly, after watching SEVERAL videos that are comparing the different slip-ons, I did notice that I actually “liked” the stock sound. BUT, because I’ve really only listened to the bike with my helmet on and can’t hear or feel the rumble of the exhaust, it makes me feel like I need to upgrade the sound. I also STRUGGLE to find neutral on that thing, so I can’t really just listen to it unless I ride without a helmet, (which I also haven’t done).
Hi 👋, Great content, in 1997/8 i purchased an FXR, 1340 , I did spend a lot of money on it, ignition, cams, et cetera and on it, I then fitted a pair of R&B racing MEGA-MEGS - DUAL it sounded amazing. , had a lot of comments, where do I get my pipes from , who made them , I traded the biking i’ve got more for it than I paid for it, I believe there was two or three people that were very interested in my bike, I then purchased my third Harley back in 1999/2000 soft tail Deuce, when I had done over 1000 miles, I decided to put some screaming eagle pipes on, Which at first I thought I liked, then, after doing some investigation and reading quite a bit about some other bits and pieces, I ordered from the USA, Drag Specialties / Ross Tom 2-1 BOOM CAN , oh my God, did this sound good?, And at the time I was the only one in Europe that had a pair, and over the years I had done quite a few of the European rallies, on one occasion I was riding out of London, pulled up at a set of traffic lights, a guy pulled up a alongside me in a Aston Martin open Top, he shadow out Phil how you getting on long time since I’ve seen you at Barcelona, he said he recognised my jacket and recognised my exhaust, they had never seen anything like it before, I believe the outer pipe was nearly 6 inches in diameter, sadly, I had to sell it in 2019, as I had been scammed by my ex female partner, I have now moved to France I don’t think she’s very happy, I hope you all ride safe, Phil from the moulin France
I just picked up a 2023 Heritage 114. I plan on keeping stock other than a stg 1 set up and tune. Most likely go SE Street Cannons and punch out the cats. They sound pretty good with that mod and is hearing and passenger friendly. Thanks for the consistently good content. Happy Holiday!
Agreed. Most SE parts are pretty good but not their exhaust systems. Unfortunately sometimes when you want to retain warranty you have no other legal choice. In my case when I had a new 2019 softail I was able to buy an S&S Superstreet with catalyst. I used it with a stage 3 107 to 114 that made 118hp 122tq warranty & emissions compliant back in 2019.
Really like. My Rineharts. I’m not real mechanically savvy so I just slip them on and stay stock with everything else. Pretty satisfied with stock performance and super satisfied with the reliability
I guess I was really lucky! I ordered my UL while I was overseas and had it delivered to a dealer here in Florida. I asked that they do a stage one on it but I didn’t specify what parts to use. They could have used all SẼ parts but they didn’t. They put a V&H Power Duals header and Freedom Racing slip-ons on it. They did use a SE air cleaner they did it right and you can’t tell it’s SE unless I show you.
I bought my road glide st new in 22, bought the screamin eagle exhaust because of the gloss black. It looks great but the sound wasn't there. After about 7k i decided to gamble and i cut the cats off since the muffler clamps behind it. Woke it up a bit but still wanted better sound. The small reducers at the end of the muffler held on by 3 rivets started coming loose so drilled them out. What a difference! Got that thump i was looking for and the butt dyno noticed a bit on the bottom end. Gonna tune it this spring and see where it sits.
I put tab slip on mufflers on my 2022 tri/glide, and refused to do the air box, did not want to pay for a tune. I'm happy with the performance of the M 8 runs way better than my other harley that had work done on them.😀😃😄😁😆Can not expect much out of 1200 lbs bike
On my last bike I ended up going for looks and sound only. Who really cares about performance numbers on a full touring bike anyway? My last two bikes had V&H and the long distance drone wasn't worth the minimal performance gain. I've never changed head pipes but did add Screamin Eagle air cleaners, tuners and had them dynoed. I'm running CFR's now and they have a qualty deep but soft sound that only barks under throttle. Stock headers with cat on a 2017 FLHTK. Its all subjective but to me, that's the sweet spot.
If stock Harley mufflers had removable baffles, you could just change the baffles out and replicate every aftermarket exhaust sound produced. All manufacturers mufflers are exactly the same with the exception of the internal baffles. Everyone is paying $700 for slip on mufflers when, if the stock baffles were removable, could spend $80 to tune the tone of the stock mufflers to the desired sound. Removable end caps would be nice too.
I’m pretty happy with my screaming eagle mufflers on my trike I took out all the baffle rings and it gives me instant throttle response in torque I love it even with my new 110 bore with cvo cams and dark horse crank they still are great feeling ,
You forgot to mention that if you change that exhaust system with a screaming eagle and have it tuned by the dealer, your warranty won't void. If you hook up ANY OTHER TUNER other than screaming eagle, the warranty will be void! As soon as they plug it in, they will know, and it goes into the database. When you're spending 30k on a bike at 8% interest, that's a factor. Great video and advice as always 👍
@RoyalKennedy601 I looked into this, and I will clarify. If you plug a non-EPA complaint tuner into your harley, it WILL void your warranty. EPA complaint tuners can only tune for a stage 1. Stage 2-4 tuners are illegal and WILL void the warranty, so cams and big bore kits are out. If you don't care about the warranty or it has already expired, then go for it. Just be aware that if you plug a non complaint tuner in and take it to an authorized service provider, when they hook it up, it will flag it and your power train warranty will be voided.
On my '02 Electra Glide with a stage 2 95" kit, i started with SE slip ons but eventually went with a 2-1 D&D Fatcat which I loved and to this day think it's the best sounding exhaust out there. Now with my new '21 Limited, I went with SE Street Cannon slip ons and I'm very happy for the most part. I ride mainly long distances, so these slip ons are perfect for me......for now. I'm not a fan of super loud exhausts.
I have been running a Vance and Hines head pipe and my stock CVO mufflers with full sack 2 inch baffles. Sounds pretty good. Never been on a dinos cell, but it runs good for me. I don’t think a couple horsepower one way or the other matters too much to me. I’m not racing I don’t think you can feel an extra 5 hp
I have Tab Performance zombie mufflers, with a tab head pipe. I love it, its on our freewheeler, with stage 2 also. I is the best thing that could be done, excellent response, sounds awesome, it's loud, but you can always just cruse with a little gas without cranking it up.
I've got the Screamin Eagle Mufflers on my 2024 114 Heritage. Also had them on my 2020 114 Heritage. I have been pleased with them as far as sound. They give a good note while accelerating and a good bark WOT and mellow out during cruising. If you like loud pipes these won't be for you but if like me, you're old ears can't take the pounding anymore, these are the pipes.
I went with powerdual headers and S&S Grand Nationals on my 2018. Not crazy loud but nice balance of power and torque. Dyno guy told me that the Grand Nationals dyno fairly well with the decible reducers in them as well.
I don't like raw exhaust smell and like torque so S&S w/cats was four times a charm for me. I went from Street Canons to V&H back to street canons to Rineharts back to Street Canons then found the S&S. Shorter, better sound, similar torque as the Street Canons and no raw exhaust smell.
my 2018 fatboy has street cannons. I like that the cats stop me gassing everyone in the house during warmup. Also my neighbours don't look at me like they hate me as I ride past, it's comfortable on my ears. The flip side is my 107 doesn't sound like a Harley should . . it's a bit boring.
Open V&H long shots like on my 04 Road King Stage 1 will do a number on your ears after a few miles but the pleasure of rolling at highway speed is indescribable
I like my 2 in 1 exhaust and it's loudness. People keep their noses in their cell phones even while driving and my loud Harley Fatboy Lo usually gets their attention .
Shit. My 103 breakout with V&H 2 into 2 and they are still on their phones trying to cut into my lane. I know damn well they can hear me but they don’t care.
@@BillyJack7691 You guys are both correct. The only thing I found that works to keep me safe in traffic when I see phone heads not paying attention -is open the throttle enough to get just ahead of them - at least clear out of their blind spot anyway. I run a full stage I with Rineharts, which has taught me to care a little less about being that jerk who startles them awake a bit. Love the sound too, is an added bonus🙂
Another informative vid. Bought a 2018 softail m8 three months ago still is all stock an I’m trying to figure out how to get that to da dump sound and which pipes and or cam I need to get that sound? The bike has all the power I need but I gotta have that lope
I ran Rinehart true dual headers and mufflers on my 2008 FLHTC and my 2010 FLHTCU. I loved the rumble but I always wore ear plugs when I rode. Great video!
My 86 FXR runs a Supertrap with 12 discs and an open end cap. Works and sounds great. My 2012 Ultra classic I removed the Cat out of the stock head pipes and put on Vance & Hines wide oval slip ons. Less heat off the pipes and louder tham stocl but not obnoxious! My 2016 has a two into 1 Rhinehart neighbor hater on it. It sets off car alarms but I ride that with earbuds in so I don't care!! 😂
I have the Bassani Road Rage 2 on my Street Bob that looks more like a Street Glide now and I wish it was a little more quiet but the performance gain along with the SE255 cam is much better then stock
The detaler steered me to a V&H exhaust. Recently bought a HD Mini Apes for $100 cheaper than aftermarket name brand. Have the HD tuner and Gas Box Intake to keep in warranty.
no screaming parts on my bagger its 170 hp just had the new noon performance pipe made for me it is absolutely beautiful and not that bad of a price compared to hpi and I think its nicer.
I have an 06 Streetglide w/ Vance n Hines 2-1 and it’s so loud . I’m 49 now and the noise just isn’t cool to me anymore lol I want quieter but I have no clue where to start ! There’s so many options and sizes . I wish there was a header and muffler already put together so I don’t have to worry about matching sizes
I bought a 2013 ultra limited off a guy that bought it new a few years ago. For some reason the head pipes are Vance&Hines With Rinehart mufflers . After watching the video I’m left wondering if maybe he done that because Rinehart has the converter in the head pipes and V&H has the converter in the mufflers? I know it isn’t as loud as any other Rineharts I’ve had on other bikes. It is a true dual exhaust. I’ve always chalked it up to the muffles just not being burnt out enough yet. Now I’ve got to find out why it doesn’t have that deep roar when gassing on it .
I have a 08 FLHTC. How do I know if it has a cat or not? I’m in Texas the bike was bought new In Texas. I really like the loud pipes like Tsb zombies. I like the looks of the Dual exhaust. But prefer 2 into 1
Haha, when I bought my 48 new in 2018, the parts guy said go aftermarket. The screamin eagle is junk. Glad I did! But my dad's 02 heritage with real screamin eagle mufflers blows away both my 48 and dyna slipons. Wish I had an older bike that fits the old school SE stuff.
I have the se high flow exhaust on my 22 road glide, had just the se mufflers on my 2020 road king with a stage 2. after having se for so long i am looking for a change. i been looking at the slimline duals with 4 inch slip ons. i do like the somewhat quieter exhaust only because i ride a lot of miles and take a lot of trips and the louder pipes will get annoying after a while. but i want to hear the bike.
Current ride is a ‘19 Street Glide with stage 1 upgrades. Stock headers with Screaming Eagle Street Canon mufflers. Toying with idea of drilling out the cat, will I suffer a torque loss?
I'm at the age where I prefer a quieter exhaust anyway. I would probably be happy with the Screamin Eagle exhaust as long as there is a measurable improvement in performance.
You could with a few minor modifications and depending on what year of 103 engine your looking at. Your next option would be a crank swap with some new pistons and cylinders and making your 88 a 103. Being a 2006 Dyna the cam chest is already updated to the hydraulic tensioners from the factory.
🛑🛑 I’m running a S&S Power Tuned Duel Header and Rinehart 4”Mufflers on my CVO Ultra, Stage 4. It “thumps” when you get on it, but isn’t STUPID Loud when I want to hear my stereo. 😀👍💯
Since I'm in NY and we now have one of the most stringent noise level rules for motorcycles in the country next to California, SE is basically my only choice for an exhaust other than the S&S system. However for the newer Softails the SE system is an absolute abomination aesthetically, but it seems to be a good performer. I'm not sure on the Touring model system but it does look good, and every other option other than S&S 50 state will probably be too loud.
I’m in Albany NY that noise law they passed he is bs . Some downstate politician had guys riding in his neighborhood and somehow got that passed . No one bothers me or anyone I know . If some kid was being a jerk and deliberately making noise on a city street and got pulled over they could use it against them
I’m feeling you. I’m in Cali and am a new rider, simply looking to improve/increase the sound and feel of my ‘23 Fat Boy. It’s “unbelievable” how quiet this thing is with the stock exhaust system on, and I really just want to be heard when slow riding between vehicles while lane splitting. I don’t want an obnoxiously loud bike. I want a deep, throaty rumble,pretty much through all the gears. Watching/Listening to videos, honestly, just trying to find some slip-ons that meet that criteria. The ones that REALLY got my attention are made by Khrome Werks, but they don’t currently produce a California-compliant set. Before coming across them I was looking at the Rineharts, followed by the Screaming Eagles. With the bike being under factory warranty and not wanting to interfere with that, I’m thinking wondering if I just need to go Screaming Eagle. The dealer’s talking OVER $1,000 to install them, but now that I’ve seen a few more videos, I think they’re quoting a full Screaming Eagle Stage 1 Upgrade - which I’m not thinking I want/need, unless the thing has to be re-tuned…
The cam makes all the difference, it will transform a motorcycle! Screamin Eagle just isn't worth the price and the performance you get, the sound really is negligable from stock.
I have the Factory exhaust on all by bikes for the exact reason you mentioned. Sure the v twin sounds undistinguishable loud, The law can here you coming way before you get there, But the bikes I have are plenty and I mean plenty of powerful enough and I ride for many hours like to hear the engines as well, do not like getting to my destination with my ears ringing and thumbing my ear loab at some one talking to me yelling A ! Or making like I hear them. agreeing with the unknown.
2018 FLHTKSEANV 115th Anniversary Edition Stock exhaust with baffles and cat removed 1st HD w enough power stock Or almost stock To be satisfying on power To me Ridin HOG’s 1978
The issue I didn't hear you address is the need for an aftermarket tuner with those aftermarket exhaust and the potential affect on your factory warranty. Everything you've said is absolutely true ( you are the expert after all) but there is more to replacing that exhaust system than just sound and performance.
On a touring bike meant to be ridden all-day, stock is quieter but lacks that H-D feel. Too loud and you’ll be ringing in your ears for hours at the end of the day.
Buying an exhaust system for your motorcycle is like buying a new mattress to sleep on you don’t know if you’ll like it until you’ve used it for about a month! And they both can be expensive!
SE on both my twin cam's from the factory and I like how they sound. Might just be me but they sound better with age 🤷 oh and I can run around without being stocked by the cops😅 👮♂️ 🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂 I personally rather listen to music 🎶 🎵 years from now the stock bike will be worth more than the ones with aftermarket parts 😊
You can't beat V&H with the "quiet" baffles. Trust me, I have had everything. V&H glass pack quiet baffles is the deal. Loud enuff to scare car alarms, but with far less "Blat Blat". I don't know what a catalytic thing ah Ma Bob is 😅. Bikes are such a small impact... Your typical local pond is pumping out more GHG , then your bike will in a full year. Cats on bikes is retarded.
I have an 08 superglide with v&h sideshots.Love the sound,look ,and performance. High flow air filter power commanderv. Bike runs great. Also have 08 ultra with fishtails. Bought it that way. Dont like the sound at all. Nor performance. Going with cobra neighbor haters and a power vision.
Do you feel the Screamin Eagle exhaust systems have their place when it comes to the sound and performance they produce?
They used to
Unfortunately if your in California some people may want to leave it EPA complaint 😭😭😭
No such thing of the "Land of the FREE" anymore 😭😭😭😭
May all your days be Harley days🖤🧡🖤
Safe travels 🙏♥️🐾🐾🇦🇺
M8s run hot enough. they don't need a cat system to make it hotter
Have Screaming Eagle Slips on my Fat Bob and love them .
Yes. They are a quality made product and super street friendly for low down grunt. Even the older ones like my pre '03 SEII's make start ups much easier on a carb'd scoot. So damn heavy but made to last.
Big G'day GixxerFoo from Down Under 🇦🇺
It's 7am & have been sitting here waiting for your video🖤🧡🖤
Loud PIPES save LIVES ❗
Bassani Sweeper 💪🖤🧡🖤💪
May all your days be Harley days🖤🧡🖤
Safe travels 🙏♥️🐾🐾🇦🇺
2010 FLHTK - S&S 583 cams and dyno tuned. I went with a Bassani 2-x-2 header with SE slip-ons. Great torque, good HP, exhaust note is barky under pressure, rumbles like it should, and most importantly, doesn't kill my ear drums when doing 70+ scooting down the highway for hours on end.
I have a 21 roadglide Limited. I have a star 30/30 cam, S&S intake, SE headpipe, and Vance and Hines mufflers. I couldn't be happier. Take 600-mile trips often during the summer. The secret is buy SE system used. Most times, people just want to unload it. Cut and weld the proper size outlets. Paid 300 bucks for my SE header, 200 for the Vance and Hines mufflers.
On my 96' Evo Heritage.. I'm running the old Kerker dual exhaust (not available any longer), with no baffles. Loud.. but nice
I've run V/H, Screamin Eagle, Cobra and Rinehart exhausts. IMO the only reason to run SE is if you want a tad bit more rumble but still keep the decibels down. There is very little to no performance benefit with a slight noise increase. Rinehart is by far my favorite choice. Sound is fantastic w/out being obnoxious. Probably some performance too, but let's be honest nobody is adding slip on's for performance. My current bike does have a full Rinehart with headers and it's performance is mildly better than slip on's alone.
Does Rinehart put cats in their system?
Appreciate this response. As a new rider, what you describe is EXACTLY my objective. I simply want more sonic presence on my ‘23 Fat Boy. I’m not looking for a performance boost and want to retain the look, though I have considered the shorter, downward curved slip-ons as I have heard them (in other videos) and liked the sound.
Based on viewing several other videos, I too like the Rineharts, (though a recent video I’ve seen regarding Khrome Werks slip-ons REALLY got my attention).
But all of this has produced a question for me, that I do believe was partially addressed in this video.
Again, being new and trying to do research and hearing about this “Stage 1 Upgrade”, which again, I don’t feel I’m trying to do, my question is, if all I want is to improve the “sound” of the bike, i.e., make it a bit louder and give it more low end rumble, can I simply replace the “great looking, but weak sounding” stock tail pipes with a more preferred pair of slip-ons? Or will the bike then need to be re-tuned, taking me into the “Stage 1 Upgrade” arena?
I have an old (and pretty reliable) 2002 Softail Deuce and I went back from a Vance & Hines short shots exhaust system to a full stock exhaust system again and I could not be more satisfied. I just could not bear that V & H noise anymore, especially on longer trips (thousand plus miles)
Yeah, call me crazy but I just enjoy the silence more.
Great post, Felipe!
And “I” don’t think it’s crazy. I’m not looking for “loud”, but I would prefer a bit more rumble on my ‘23 Fat Boy, and the ability to make it known I’m coming through at low speeds, when lane splitting (which as a new rider, I haven’t yet done, though I’m comfortable with my low speed riding).
Honestly, after watching SEVERAL videos that are comparing the different slip-ons, I did notice that I actually “liked” the stock sound. BUT, because I’ve really only listened to the bike with my helmet on and can’t hear or feel the rumble of the exhaust, it makes me feel like I need to upgrade the sound.
I also STRUGGLE to find neutral on that thing, so I can’t really just listen to it unless I ride without a helmet, (which I also haven’t done).
Hi 👋, Great content, in 1997/8 i purchased an FXR, 1340 , I did spend a lot of money on it, ignition, cams, et cetera and on it, I then fitted a pair of R&B racing MEGA-MEGS - DUAL it sounded amazing. , had a lot of comments, where do I get my pipes from , who made them , I traded the biking i’ve got more for it than I paid for it, I believe there was two or three people that were very interested in my bike, I then purchased my third Harley back in 1999/2000 soft tail Deuce, when I had done over 1000 miles, I decided to put some screaming eagle pipes on, Which at first I thought I liked, then, after doing some investigation and reading quite a bit about some other bits and pieces, I ordered from the USA, Drag Specialties / Ross Tom 2-1 BOOM CAN , oh my God, did this sound good?, And at the time I was the only one in Europe that had a pair, and over the years I had done quite a few of the European rallies, on one occasion I was riding out of London, pulled up at a set of traffic lights, a guy pulled up a alongside me in a Aston Martin open Top, he shadow out Phil how you getting on long time since I’ve seen you at Barcelona, he said he recognised my jacket and recognised my exhaust, they had never seen anything like it before, I believe the outer pipe was nearly 6 inches in diameter, sadly, I had to sell it in 2019, as I had been scammed by my ex female partner, I have now moved to France I don’t think she’s very happy, I hope you all ride safe, Phil from the moulin France
Had my 2004 Roadking carburetted with Kerker Supertrapp. Had a very low db on idle, yet it screams when you pin the throttle.
Love it!!!!
Scream'n eagles on my 1991flhs, just right for this older boy 😮
I just picked up a 2023 Heritage 114. I plan on keeping stock other than a stg 1 set up and tune. Most likely go SE Street Cannons and punch out the cats. They sound pretty good with that mod and is hearing and passenger friendly. Thanks for the consistently good content. Happy Holiday!
Videos like this make me want to move out of Commyfornia all the time.
The way it's going the whole country is catching up to California.
S&S Power Tune Duals with SVT Bone Shakers.
An awesome combo!!
Agreed. Most SE parts are pretty good but not their exhaust systems. Unfortunately sometimes when you want to retain warranty you have no other legal choice.
In my case when I had a new 2019 softail I was able to buy an S&S Superstreet with catalyst. I used it with a stage 3 107 to 114 that made 118hp 122tq warranty & emissions compliant back in 2019.
Really like. My Rineharts. I’m not real mechanically savvy so I just slip them on and stay stock with everything else. Pretty satisfied with stock performance and super satisfied with the reliability
I have a bassani muffler system on my 2017 Street glide, and am very satisfied
I guess I was really lucky! I ordered my UL while I was overseas and had it delivered to a dealer here in Florida. I asked that they do a stage one on it but I didn’t specify what parts to use. They could have used all SẼ parts but they didn’t. They put a V&H Power Duals header and Freedom Racing slip-ons on it. They did use a SE air cleaner they did it right and you can’t tell it’s SE unless I show you.
2009 CVO ultra with the 110. True duals that have been ceramic coated and V/H mufflers.
I bought my road glide st new in 22, bought the screamin eagle exhaust because of the gloss black. It looks great but the sound wasn't there. After about 7k i decided to gamble and i cut the cats off since the muffler clamps behind it. Woke it up a bit but still wanted better sound. The small reducers at the end of the muffler held on by 3 rivets started coming loose so drilled them out. What a difference! Got that thump i was looking for and the butt dyno noticed a bit on the bottom end. Gonna tune it this spring and see where it sits.
I have a 2016 heritage softail with Vance &hines injection and mufflers
I put tab slip on mufflers on my 2022 tri/glide, and refused to do the air box, did not want to pay for a tune. I'm happy with the performance of the M 8 runs way better than my other harley that had work done on them.😀😃😄😁😆Can not expect much out of 1200 lbs bike
Tab 50 Cals on my 22 SGST. no tune needed. Love the roar of these pipes!
20 road king with stage two upgrade (torque cam). Decatted stock header,SE polished alum intake, VH 400 eliminator slipons
On my last bike I ended up going for looks and sound only. Who really cares about performance numbers on a full touring bike anyway? My last two bikes had V&H and the long distance drone wasn't worth the minimal performance gain. I've never changed head pipes but did add Screamin Eagle air cleaners, tuners and had them dynoed. I'm running CFR's now and they have a qualty deep but soft sound that only barks under throttle. Stock headers with cat on a 2017 FLHTK. Its all subjective but to me, that's the sweet spot.
If stock Harley mufflers had removable baffles, you could just change the baffles out and replicate every aftermarket exhaust sound produced. All manufacturers mufflers are exactly the same with the exception of the internal baffles. Everyone is paying $700 for slip on mufflers when, if the stock baffles were removable, could spend $80 to tune the tone of the stock mufflers to the desired sound. Removable end caps would be nice too.
I’m pretty happy with my screaming eagle mufflers on my trike I took out all the baffle rings and it gives me instant throttle response in torque I love it even with my new 110 bore with cvo cams and dark horse crank they still are great feeling ,
You forgot to mention that if you change that exhaust system with a screaming eagle and have it tuned by the dealer, your warranty won't void. If you hook up ANY OTHER TUNER other than screaming eagle, the warranty will be void! As soon as they plug it in, they will know, and it goes into the database. When you're spending 30k on a bike at 8% interest, that's a factor.
Great video and advice as always 👍
I’m pretty sure Harley got sued for that and lost
@RoyalKennedy601 I looked into this, and I will clarify. If you plug a non-EPA complaint tuner into your harley, it WILL void your warranty. EPA complaint tuners can only tune for a stage 1. Stage 2-4 tuners are illegal and WILL void the warranty, so cams and big bore kits are out. If you don't care about the warranty or it has already expired, then go for it. Just be aware that if you plug a non complaint tuner in and take it to an authorized service provider, when they hook it up, it will flag it and your power train warranty will be voided.
I run D & D Fatcat, loud baffle, 2 into 1 on my Road King. Love it.
That system makes some power and D&D has trouble keeping them in stock!
On my '02 Electra Glide with a stage 2 95" kit, i started with SE slip ons but eventually went with a 2-1 D&D Fatcat which I loved and to this day think it's the best sounding exhaust out there. Now with my new '21 Limited, I went with SE Street Cannon slip ons and I'm very happy for the most part. I ride mainly long distances, so these slip ons are perfect for me......for now. I'm not a fan of super loud exhausts.
09 FXDC 96ci with tw222 and D&D fatcat 2 into 1. Sounds great and runs good
I have been running a Vance and Hines head pipe and my stock CVO mufflers with full sack 2 inch baffles. Sounds pretty good. Never been on a dinos cell, but it runs good for me. I don’t think a couple horsepower one way or the other matters too much to me. I’m not racing I don’t think you can feel an extra 5 hp
I have Tab Performance zombie mufflers, with a tab head pipe. I love it, its on our freewheeler, with stage 2 also. I is the best thing that could be done, excellent response, sounds awesome, it's loud, but you can always just cruse with a little gas without cranking it up.
I've got the Screamin Eagle Mufflers on my 2024 114 Heritage. Also had them on my 2020 114 Heritage. I have been pleased with them as far as sound. They give a good note while accelerating and a good bark WOT and mellow out during cruising. If you like loud pipes these won't be for you but if like me, you're old ears can't take the pounding anymore, these are the pipes.
Cat-less 09 headpipes with thunder header slipons was sound I wanted and definitely a boost in all around performance
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Friday again...
Big thumbs up for the channel...
Thanks again!
I bought a 1999 1200 sportster custom. It has a screaming eagle exhaust. I like the sound and look of it.
I went with powerdual headers and S&S Grand Nationals on my 2018. Not crazy loud but nice balance of power and torque. Dyno guy told me that the Grand Nationals dyno fairly well with the decible reducers in them as well.
I don't like raw exhaust smell and like torque so S&S w/cats was four times a charm for me. I went from Street Canons to V&H back to street canons to Rineharts back to Street Canons then found the S&S. Shorter, better sound, similar torque as the Street Canons and no raw exhaust smell.
Interesting… My bike is pretty new and while not intolerable, I considered the smell to just be the burn-in of the components
my 2018 fatboy has street cannons. I like that the cats stop me gassing everyone in the house during warmup. Also my neighbours don't look at me like they hate me as I ride past, it's comfortable on my ears.
The flip side is my 107 doesn't sound like a Harley should . . it's a bit boring.
Good to know!
Open V&H long shots like on my 04 Road King Stage 1 will do a number on your ears after a few miles but the pleasure of rolling at highway speed is indescribable
My brother has them on his heritage. Definitely don’t ride behind him 🤯
I like my 2 in 1 exhaust and it's loudness. People keep their noses in their cell phones even while driving and my loud Harley Fatboy Lo usually gets their attention .
Shit. My 103 breakout with V&H 2 into 2 and they are still on their phones trying to cut into my lane. I know damn well they can hear me but they don’t care.
@@smallfry0764 You're right, most are def to Harleys or any other bike for that matter.. I'll make that correction immediately
@@BillyJack7691 You guys are both correct. The only thing I found that works to keep me safe in traffic when I see phone heads not paying attention -is open the throttle enough to get just ahead of them - at least clear out of their blind spot anyway. I run a full stage I with Rineharts, which has taught me to care a little less about being that jerk who startles them awake a bit. Love the sound too, is an added bonus🙂
Another informative vid. Bought a 2018 softail m8 three months ago still is all stock an I’m trying to figure out how to get that to da dump sound and which pipes and or cam I need to get that sound? The bike has all the power I need but I gotta have that lope
Vance & Hines 203 SE Cams and Micunie carb high flow in take on my 2003 FXDWG.
I modified a a factory ford maverick system to fit my low rider, doesn’t look good or sound sweet, but I did it myself, oh and runs crappy too😮
I ran Rinehart true dual headers and mufflers on my 2008 FLHTC and my 2010 FLHTCU. I loved the rumble but I always wore ear plugs when I rode. Great video!
DK Customs Outlaw air cleaner/breather bolts, Vance and Hines exhaust! 👌
My 86 FXR runs a Supertrap with 12 discs and an open end cap. Works and sounds great. My 2012 Ultra classic I removed the Cat out of the stock head pipes and put on Vance & Hines wide oval slip ons. Less heat off the pipes and louder tham stocl but not obnoxious! My 2016 has a two into 1 Rhinehart neighbor hater on it. It sets off car alarms but I ride that with earbuds in so I don't care!! 😂
Fuel Moto Jackpot 2in1 RTX exhaust pipe with their BMF air filter. Great sound, more Power,and definitely more Torque.
I have the Bassani Road Rage 2 on my Street Bob that looks more like a Street Glide now and I wish it was a little more quiet but the performance gain along with the SE255 cam is much better then stock
03 superglide 97 ci s and s topend 585 easystart cams and a black thunderheader exhaust loud and fast 106 hp 115 torque
I go for performance. Unfortunately for me with the 2 into 1 performance pipes you loose that nice deep tone. Oh well. Hp is hp.
2 into1 Bassani exhaust sounds great with my ss475 cam
Plenty of aftermarket companies make touring muffler sets for the 2½ / 1¾ headpipe
I’m like 5 months late to the party buuutttt plenty of companies make slip ons that have the correct sizing…….
I would just be happy with a true dual exhaust on mine as opposed to the 2 into 1 into 2 thays currently on it.
Thanks
If you want quiet take your cage ! I for one want to hear that motor & hear that wind thats the best stereo you can have !
I just put 5 inch TABs with stock header on my SGS 2022
The detaler steered me to a V&H exhaust. Recently bought a HD Mini Apes for $100 cheaper than aftermarket name brand. Have the HD tuner and Gas Box Intake to keep in warranty.
Now and again you can get a good deal out of a dealer!
Vance and Heins long shots on my 08 FXSTC.
no screaming parts on my bagger its 170 hp just had the new noon performance pipe
made for me it is absolutely beautiful and not that bad of a price compared to hpi and I
think its nicer.
I have a 2014 flhxs with V&H 4 1/2 mufflers. They sound great with stage IV 111hp and 115 flb torque. 🎉
Very nice!
Bassani 2 into 1 hands down
I have an 06 Streetglide w/ Vance n Hines 2-1 and it’s so loud . I’m 49 now and the noise just isn’t cool to me anymore lol
I want quieter but I have no clue where to start ! There’s so many options and sizes .
I wish there was a header and muffler already put together so I don’t have to worry about matching sizes
I bought a 2013 ultra limited off a guy that bought it new a few years ago. For some reason the head pipes are Vance&Hines With Rinehart mufflers . After watching the video I’m left wondering if maybe he done that because Rinehart has the converter in the head pipes and V&H has the converter in the mufflers? I know it isn’t as loud as any other Rineharts I’ve had on other bikes. It is a true dual exhaust. I’ve always chalked it up to the muffles just not being burnt out enough yet. Now I’ve got to find out why it doesn’t have that deep roar when gassing on it .
I have a 08 FLHTC. How do I know if it has a cat or not? I’m in Texas the bike was bought new In Texas. I really like the loud pipes like Tsb zombies. I like the looks of the Dual exhaust. But prefer 2 into 1
Haha, when I bought my 48 new in 2018, the parts guy said go aftermarket. The screamin eagle is junk. Glad I did! But my dad's 02 heritage with real screamin eagle mufflers blows away both my 48 and dyna slipons. Wish I had an older bike that fits the old school SE stuff.
Adding the Harley-Davidson Collflow Fan kit will remove a lot of the Cat heat. 🏍💨🏍
I have the se high flow exhaust on my 22 road glide, had just the se mufflers on my 2020 road king with a stage 2. after having se for so long i am looking for a change. i been looking at the slimline duals with 4 inch slip ons. i do like the somewhat quieter exhaust only because i ride a lot of miles and take a lot of trips and the louder pipes will get annoying after a while. but i want to hear the bike.
Current ride is a ‘19 Street Glide with stage 1 upgrades. Stock headers with Screaming Eagle Street Canon mufflers. Toying with idea of drilling out the cat, will I suffer a torque loss?
I'm at the age where I prefer a quieter exhaust anyway. I would probably be happy with the Screamin Eagle exhaust as long as there is a measurable improvement in performance.
Question I got 2006 street bob with 88 on it can I swap the 103 engine on it? Thank you
You could with a few minor modifications and depending on what year of 103 engine your looking at. Your next option would be a crank swap with some new pistons and cylinders and making your 88 a 103. Being a 2006 Dyna the cam chest is already updated to the hydraulic tensioners from the factory.
@@GixxerFoo thank you
🛑🛑 I’m running a S&S Power Tuned Duel Header and Rinehart 4”Mufflers on my CVO Ultra, Stage 4.
It “thumps” when you get on it, but isn’t STUPID Loud when I want to hear my stereo. 😀👍💯
My stock exhaust is really quiet!
I put s&s headers and cobra neighbour haters in mine lol 119db from memory. Up ftom 109db lol
I have SE II slip ons for my 2005 EFI Dyna TC88. Do I have catalytic mufflers or headers?
How do you make an exhaust video with no sounds? I'll be waiting for part 2.
Since I'm in NY and we now have one of the most stringent noise level rules for motorcycles in the country next to California, SE is basically my only choice for an exhaust other than the S&S system. However for the newer Softails the SE system is an absolute abomination aesthetically, but it seems to be a good performer. I'm not sure on the Touring model system but it does look good, and every other option other than S&S 50 state will probably be too loud.
I’m in Albany NY that noise law they passed he is bs . Some downstate politician had guys riding in his neighborhood and somehow got that passed . No one bothers me or anyone I know . If some kid was being a jerk and deliberately making noise on a city street and got pulled over they could use it against them
I’m feeling you. I’m in Cali and am a new rider, simply looking to improve/increase the sound and feel of my ‘23 Fat Boy. It’s “unbelievable” how quiet this thing is with the stock exhaust system on, and I really just want to be heard when slow riding between vehicles while lane splitting.
I don’t want an obnoxiously loud bike. I want a deep, throaty rumble,pretty much through all the gears.
Watching/Listening to videos, honestly, just trying to find some slip-ons that meet that criteria.
The ones that REALLY got my attention are made by Khrome Werks, but they don’t currently produce a California-compliant set. Before coming across them I was looking at the Rineharts, followed by the Screaming Eagles.
With the bike being under factory warranty and not wanting to interfere with that, I’m thinking wondering if I just need to go Screaming Eagle. The dealer’s talking OVER $1,000 to install them, but now that I’ve seen a few more videos, I think they’re quoting a full Screaming Eagle Stage 1 Upgrade - which I’m not thinking I want/need, unless the thing has to be re-tuned…
Tabs with zombie baffles for me
Just don’t do it
No SE
Tab 4.5s for slip ons alll day.
But need a cam to wake it up and sound correct.
The cam makes all the difference, it will transform a motorcycle! Screamin Eagle just isn't worth the price and the performance you get, the sound really is negligable from stock.
I have the Factory exhaust on all by bikes for the exact reason you mentioned. Sure the v twin sounds undistinguishable loud, The law can here you coming way before you get there, But the bikes I have are plenty and I mean plenty of powerful enough and I ride for many hours like to hear the engines as well, do not like getting to my destination with my ears ringing and thumbing my ear loab at some one talking to me yelling A ! Or making like I hear them. agreeing with the unknown.
2018 FLHTKSEANV 115th Anniversary Edition
Stock exhaust with baffles and cat removed
1st HD w enough power stock
Or almost stock
To be satisfying on power
To me
Ridin HOG’s 1978
Thunderheader 👍🏻
Rhineharts for me true duals
The issue I didn't hear you address is the need for an aftermarket tuner with those aftermarket exhaust and the potential affect on your factory warranty. Everything you've said is absolutely true ( you are the expert after all) but there is more to replacing that exhaust system than just sound and performance.
I like a loud pipe that has a crisp note.
I dont want to be "that guy" that has his bike so loud it's painfully loud and sounds like it's it needs
On a touring bike meant to be ridden all-day, stock is quieter but lacks that H-D feel. Too loud and you’ll be ringing in your ears for hours at the end of the day.
Buying an exhaust system for your motorcycle is like buying a new mattress to sleep on you don’t know if you’ll like it until you’ve used it for about a month! And they both can be expensive!
@@raymondsadowski6080 Exactly 🤣
SE on both my twin cam's from the factory and I like how they sound. Might just be me but they sound better with age 🤷 oh and I can run around without being stocked by the cops😅 👮♂️ 🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂 I personally rather listen to music 🎶 🎵 years from now the stock bike will be worth more than the ones with aftermarket parts 😊
Bassani head pipe & DNT's are superior!!!!
Thunder Max
EPA blows
You can't beat V&H with the "quiet" baffles. Trust me, I have had everything. V&H glass pack quiet baffles is the deal. Loud enuff to scare car alarms, but with far less "Blat Blat". I don't know what a catalytic thing ah Ma Bob is 😅. Bikes are such a small impact... Your typical local pond is pumping out more GHG , then your bike will in a full year. Cats on bikes is retarded.
I have an 08 superglide with v&h sideshots.Love the sound,look ,and performance. High flow air filter power commanderv. Bike runs great. Also have 08 ultra with fishtails. Bought it that way. Dont like the sound at all. Nor performance. Going with cobra neighbor haters and a power vision.
They have to make it difficult to take the cats off, the epa would come after them if they didn’t.
When riding if at the end of the day you can still hear. Your bike is to quiet
Vance and hines big radius
Yep bought Screaming Eagle at first was not impressed
They aren't bad but they leave a lot to be desired!
Cobra hp 2 into 1 ,
I’m so lost on this NEW scooter stuff
Like quiet. Hate loud. Loud is fatiguing.
Catalyzer?? Your voice is so high I think you used a catalyzer.
Lovemybassani superbike 2 into 1 on my 96 twin cam