Those are both great, but the first one is something else. The very definition of min/max’ing. I love the donut shaped fuel tanks being dropped in the 2nd one. Very cool idea to loose weight without adding excess drag by using side mounted tanks.
Both of those missions were amazing to watch :D Excellent music and filming :D I have to say as wildly impressive as the Stock KSP mission was to land on Tylo with such minimal weight I have to say the pluto landing mission was even more impressive! As the sheer insane amount of Delta V that would be needed to carry out any sort of landing on Pluto is insane! Not to mention doing it with a direct transfer without any gravity assist. That's an EXTREMELY impressive amount of performance to fit in a Realism Overhaul rocket. Let alone one so small!
This is really cool but I think you should have used the map view a lot to let us see the orbital path of all the gravity assists and such. Makes it easier to see what's going on.
Yeah, looking back on it I think it could've helped. My goal was to create a cinematic piece and not get too technical, leaving that up to the original submission.
I wonder if KSP2 will have sandbox settings that make it so you must maintain food, water and oxygen for the kerbals. That way you can't just have them sitting outside in a lawnchair attached to the craft for the 10 years it would take to complete this journey lol
This isn’t actually optimal for science/range per fund. Jet engines and xenon are both very expensive. It’s much cheaper to do an entirely liquid fuel spacecraft boosted by SRBs.
@@AstronAndry Yeah, the saving grace about ion engines and their low thrust is that you can basically fire them continuously for months or years at a time. You could probably pull off a Pluto orbiter in a couple decades.
@@allenliu4956 Which is why it's sad we won't get one. NASA is focused on Mars, a floating base in Venus, a new telescope, and the Artemis missions. NASA just doesn't really have the budget for a Pluto orbiter as well, so if you want it, you have to sacrifice either: A telescope in the making, the rocket that will be the spearhead of Artemis, a floating Venus base (which will start with a crewed Venus mission), or Mars (the main point of interest)
Those moon scatters make me wonder... is there a mining expansion mod where you need to mine and return unique resources to be able to make parts? Or like a build-your-own outpost thing where you need to supply the resources to build stuff as a proxy for credits? What little I know about modding this game tells me both would be quite a pain in the ass.
As far as I know, not really. There's mods that expand the amount of resources you can drill for, and there's mods that allow you to build vehicles on-planet from resources you mine and refine (extraplanetary launchpads), but mining unique resources and selling them I don't think is a thing. Well, sort of anyway. I know KSPIE has antimatter as a very expensive resource, so if you harvest some near gas giants and return it to kerbin, you can make a a great profit.
The fact that pluto despite being farthest "planet" in the solar system, having such low mass that cant sustain much heat, its very suprising pluto has atmosphere
Reid Captain: "the Spark is the worst engine in KSP" The Spark engine, successfully being used in a minimum mass Tylo mission, the second most demanding mission profile in the game:
Why is the 4.7t Tylo craft not spinning after he removes the two xenon tanks? The CoG is no longer aligned with the thrust axis. Or is a single small reaction wheel enough to counteract the torque?
Yup. It's shifted, but at this scale in stock KSP reaction wheels are very strong compared to the fairly low thrust Ion engine, so I didn't even notice while piloting.
lol I was impressed when it made it to tylo... then it came back and had enough fuel to stop at ike.. and minmus... wtf? we are playing a completely different game.
amazing! just s little correction that it's not fuel that was enough for Ike and Minmus landings but propellant. fuel is the radioactive isotope in the rtg and it's unlimited in ksp
@@TDChannelKSP omg, really? wow! this required more patience than i thought. anyway, it's fuelled by sun then as a source of energy. xenon is not a source of energy, so it's not fuel. it's just thrown away, it's a propellant - that's the difference
Surprisingly, its a thing. Spinning seems to randomly put the kerbal in a little more, little less occluded from the airstream which can help delay heating. KSP heating is *funky*
I'm not sure - they're in a semi-finished state, so sometimes it's removed from the game, other times its accidentally left in. I think RP-1 might be removing it?
for the rss mission he could have gone to pluto and back if he did some gravity assists but i am happy to be proved wrong as i hardly have experience in rss
A Jupiter gravity assist definitely would've helped, perhaps with a heavier lander. But return is unlikely - it takes quite a bit to return from Pluto, Gravity assists on the way back might help with capture delta-v.
You can make Mars 94 mission in for all mankind is not shown so I request you to make full mission of it and if it's possible from you make Jamestown base expansion crew visit of it in parts videos please make it if you can possible please I request and happy new year 2023
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the virgin decoupler vs the chad literally having the astronaut get out a crowbar and tear the fuel tanks off
virgin add more fuel vs chad use eva to get to orbit
Val is a trained professional, she doesn't need to hear all that!
I like to think they just have a crowbar with the word “decoupler” sketched on it
@@net343 "manual decoupler"
Really cool missions and beautifully shot!
Thank you! :)
Yo when will you read another furry fanfic for 8 hours? Im so excited for more!
@@Cresign why am i not surprised he's done that before
@@Cresign ayo!! excited??
This has nothing to do with the video but I'm trying to recreate your Comm Network that you did a couple years ago in my own world.
Technically, this Kerbol mission actually uses tons more mass than many normal missions, since it used the entire mass of several celestial bodies.
bruh
200 iq
Yah but what did you have to launch from kelvin that’s using the environment
Kerbin*
It used the energy of the celestial mass to go faster
Those are both great, but the first one is something else. The very definition of min/max’ing.
I love the donut shaped fuel tanks being dropped in the 2nd one. Very cool idea to loose weight without adding excess drag by using side mounted tanks.
The Persephone launch vehicle design, particularly those hollow drop tanks, is highly inspired by TD's 23-ton crewed Moon landing!
lose*
Both of those missions were amazing to watch :D Excellent music and filming :D
I have to say as wildly impressive as the Stock KSP mission was to land on Tylo with such minimal weight I have to say the pluto landing mission was even more impressive! As the sheer insane amount of Delta V that would be needed to carry out any sort of landing on Pluto is insane! Not to mention doing it with a direct transfer without any gravity assist. That's an EXTREMELY impressive amount of performance to fit in a Realism Overhaul rocket. Let alone one so small!
This is really cool but I think you should have used the map view a lot to let us see the orbital path of all the gravity assists and such. Makes it easier to see what's going on.
Yeah, looking back on it I think it could've helped. My goal was to create a cinematic piece and not get too technical, leaving that up to the original submission.
@@TDChannelKSP Oh, original submission? I should go check that out too then~
Seeing Val's face smashed into the "dashboard" at 2:50 just made me think there's a snack drawer there and she smashed her helmet visor to get them xD
I wonder if KSP2 will have sandbox settings that make it so you must maintain food, water and oxygen for the kerbals. That way you can't just have them sitting outside in a lawnchair attached to the craft for the 10 years it would take to complete this journey lol
Excellent cinematography as usual! So glad I could be a part of this!
I’m glad that she held her breath for 58 years.
0:58 gotta love seeing a Kerbal wedged face-first against a part labeled "DANGER"
I have to say the camerawork here is top notch and especially the 1st mission was amazing(not to say the second wasn't :P)
space program staff: hey guys, we ran out of money and science, how we can earn some? ideas?
proxima:
This isn’t actually optimal for science/range per fund. Jet engines and xenon are both very expensive. It’s much cheaper to do an entirely liquid fuel spacecraft boosted by SRBs.
@@proxima_fish sad
@@proxima_fish It's da man, da mif, da legend: and they own up that it's not cost efficient. Good to see you.
Can you imagine if Ion engines were half this powerful in real life
They're even more efficient in real life than in stock KSP, but have almost no thrust.
@@allenliu4956 Who needs thrust in space anyways though! A 400-year mission to Pluto using Ion thrusters? Sure!!!!
@@AstronAndry Yeah, the saving grace about ion engines and their low thrust is that you can basically fire them continuously for months or years at a time. You could probably pull off a Pluto orbiter in a couple decades.
@@allenliu4956 Which is why it's sad we won't get one. NASA is focused on Mars, a floating base in Venus, a new telescope, and the Artemis missions.
NASA just doesn't really have the budget for a Pluto orbiter as well, so if you want it, you have to sacrifice either:
A telescope in the making, the rocket that will be the spearhead of Artemis, a floating Venus base (which will start with a crewed Venus mission), or Mars (the main point of interest)
20-ton mission to Pluto? Easy! As long as you don't mind dumping a spent nuclear stage during Earth ascent.
Eh, Florida is expendable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@the18thdoctor3 Better to drop it over NY or Commiefornia :D
The camera angle at 7:23 kinda looks like the thumbnail
the first one was a dream achieved with duct tape and popsicle sticks
So, a 20 ton rocket in real life is enough for reaching pluto.
well not really if you want to be alive when it arrives
@@mearbye Something called a 'Probe' exists
Not really multiple burns of the same engines , ion's being 1000x times stronger than irl , riskiness , etc.
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That was Insane! Great Job!
Those moon scatters make me wonder... is there a mining expansion mod where you need to mine and return unique resources to be able to make parts? Or like a build-your-own outpost thing where you need to supply the resources to build stuff as a proxy for credits?
What little I know about modding this game tells me both would be quite a pain in the ass.
As far as I know, not really. There's mods that expand the amount of resources you can drill for, and there's mods that allow you to build vehicles on-planet from resources you mine and refine (extraplanetary launchpads), but mining unique resources and selling them I don't think is a thing.
Well, sort of anyway. I know KSPIE has antimatter as a very expensive resource, so if you harvest some near gas giants and return it to kerbin, you can make a a great profit.
Those crystals on ike look amazing
The fact that pluto despite being farthest "planet" in the solar system, having such low mass that cant sustain much heat, its very suprising pluto has atmosphere
Reid Captain: "the Spark is the worst engine in KSP"
The Spark engine, successfully being used in a minimum mass Tylo mission, the second most demanding mission profile in the game:
WAAAIT A MINUTE I JUST REALIZED 2 OF MY FAV VIDEOS ON DIFFERENT TOPICS ARE BY YOU!!! THE FREE BIRD SLS ONE AND THE PROJECT ANDORIA SERIES!!!
It has a good personality
Why is the 4.7t Tylo craft not spinning after he removes the two xenon tanks? The CoG is no longer aligned with the thrust axis. Or is a single small reaction wheel enough to counteract the torque?
Yup. It's shifted, but at this scale in stock KSP reaction wheels are very strong compared to the fairly low thrust Ion engine, so I didn't even notice while piloting.
lol I was impressed when it made it to tylo... then it came back and had enough fuel to stop at ike.. and minmus... wtf?
we are playing a completely different game.
11:08 Oh wow. I wonder how long all of this to- HOW MANY YEARS?!!!! 😱😂
Happy new year
amazing! just s little correction that it's not fuel that was enough for Ike and Minmus landings but propellant. fuel is the radioactive isotope in the rtg and it's unlimited in ksp
But... there's no RTG on the spacecraft?
@@TDChannelKSP omg, really? wow! this required more patience than i thought. anyway, it's fuelled by sun then as a source of energy. xenon is not a source of energy, so it's not fuel. it's just thrown away, it's a propellant - that's the difference
@@FatovMikhail Ah okay, I see.
@Fatov Mikhail Did you know that a group of pedants is called a phlegm?
bro went to tylo ike and minmus with less fuel than I need to get into suborbit
TBF, jets are very weight effective, since they don't need oxidizer, just rocket fuel.
gotta love the ablative staging of the intakes
Okay, I have never seen Ike look like that in my LIFE. What mod did you use for the surface?
Parallax 2.0 adds the crystals to Ike.
Parallax surface scatters
Normally I just use a plane to get to the island base. To each their own I guess.
I won't lie, I bugged twice when I saw the name of the creator of the second rocket.
1:04 is there some aero trickery that makes that flat nose not draggy?
This is Not normal!😮Tylo,Ike and Minimus!!! Respect🤩
what
After February, KSP 2 will have videos posted on it.
this is my favorite ksp video
How does one plan out 8 gravity assists
Is the spinning+evenly cooked line a joke, or does spinning actually help?
Surprisingly, its a thing. Spinning seems to randomly put the kerbal in a little more, little less occluded from the airstream which can help delay heating. KSP heating is *funky*
Evenly cooked 🤣
Delicious rocket
Hi there. What mods are used for this? I want the same beautiful game.
I love your content keep It up
i like how Pheresphone goes from normal to OTRAG
have any ideas how to add these silly 500000 million tons srbs. i once had them but my rss update removed them.
I'm not sure - they're in a semi-finished state, so sometimes it's removed from the game, other times its accidentally left in. I think RP-1 might be removing it?
@@TDChannelKSP it depends, on my first Time i had it. I guess it depends if rss detects or you install it manually
for the rss mission he could have gone to pluto and back if he did some gravity assists but i am happy to be proved wrong as i hardly have experience in rss
A Jupiter gravity assist definitely would've helped, perhaps with a heavier lander. But return is unlikely - it takes quite a bit to return from Pluto, Gravity assists on the way back might help with capture delta-v.
@@TDChannelKSP gud to know
These guy make it look so easy i'm forced to ask: Who *needs* a heavier rocket?
What if you want a space station in LKO? Need heavier rocket. Reason.
Kerbal players are built different let's save mass by spinning the rocket lmao 🤣
2:10 the Munar gravity assist hahahahahahahah
Are there any real life rockets that used the donut shaped drop tank design from this video?
Don't know of any. My guess is they'd be too hard to engineer. Seems like the odds of them getting stuck would be unacceptable.
what graphics mod do you use?
Stock: Astronomers Visual Pack - HR + Parallax 2
RSS: RSSVE-HR
Wow that was cool!
Does the game look this nice these days, or are you running graphical mods for this? If mods, can you share the details?
Stock: Astronomers Visual Pack - HR + Parallax 2
RSS: RSSVE-HR
@@TDChannelKSP Thanks!
That is pretty cool. What visual plugins are you using for those graphics?
For stock, Astronomers Visual Pack-HR plus Parallax 2.0, for RSS, RSSVE-HR.
Extra Depends for the way home... ...beautiful video...
Why
No one could do it better than you
😮 wait , I’m not subbed?! F%#k that! ((SMASHES SUB BUTTON))
bruh i can barely get to duna
So unbuger that we can only afford one parachute 💀
Awesome
GEE FORCE
Why you are not make a video on a crewed mission to other planet like Venus Europa and many More I waiting for Artemis mission ksp cinematic
Those are in the works for next year ;)
bro i cant even get to orbit-
Try make light speed. We see this is posible in this game or not. Spawn rocket in space.
Wow Valentina Kerman is old!
I'll try spinning
That's a good trick
and it takes me a billion clydestales just to get to the mun :(
WOAH!
Amazing
You can make Mars 94 mission in for all mankind is not shown so I request you to make full mission of it and if it's possible from you make Jamestown base expansion crew visit of it in parts videos please make it if you can possible please I request and happy new year 2023
And after 50h of gameplay i barely can construct Stable Rockets repetadly , not to mention about make all maneuvers precise enough to Reach Min,
A la fin c juste un jet pack
Please upload video halfs a month you are upload once month
Costcutting 101
Pls sfs
Cosmic biker
Lol
58 years
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discord invite invalid anyone?
Sorry about that. I created a limited invite link to track how many people joined via this invite specifically, but it expired after a week.
Should be fixed.
@@TDChannelKSP Thanks I appreciate it. I also found and invite link on your channel page that worked :)
What is ksp discord
My discord server! Link in the description.
4.6 tons and lands on 3 moons while traversing the system