Yeah, their prices are absolutely insane. They're selling PS2 slim models for $185. I have multiple slims I spent no more than 40-50 on per console on (locally, online, marketplace), which came with games, memory cards and multiple official controllers. I have no idea how DKOldies even lists their consoles for that much but people still buy them
See this is the thing. They buy their consoles and games in lots and yard sales and save BIG on it. They have absolutely no issues with profit margins. This is just laziness and greed from the owner.
You also should go get them at flea markets as well, as I have seen them sell for good prices. I also highly recommend that you get PS1 and PS2 stuff from them as well. I managed to snag a copy of Fire Pro Wrestling R/Returns for $ USD 8 once from a flea market.
Like three years in a row GameStop was doing $50 360s in a row with a 49.99 instant rebate on black Fridays, this was around the time of the slim PS4/spiderman deal iirc
@@funderburke43 yup I remember that deal. I bought a super slim 360 for my nephew and it even came with the official camo controller. They were basically giving them away. Probably to clean out their overstock. Everybody had a 360 back in the day. they are easy to find
If you don't disassemble, clean, repaste and reassemble properly it's not a refurbishment. Ideally refurbish includes replacement of failing capacitors, batteries or other electronics.
This is an absolute kill shot. All the negative press over the past few months and they get a relatively suspicious looking order asking for one of each of their consoles. Almost like someone might be gearing up for a massive review and they still send out worse than some of the original examples to start all of this. Gonna be hard to recover from these bigger channels calling them out.
Especially with how one of their ex-employees called them out on an interview with Rich from review tech recently in that they play favorites with repeat / high order customers. So if what they gave Austin was the premium treatment then just imagine regular customers lol.
@@katsudon2048 I know he's not in the UK, but TheRetroFuture just did a video on them as well. It's entirely possible for someone in Europe to get an order from them, I wouldn't be surprised to see MrWhoseTheBoss make a video on them in the future.
maybe they can see the error of their ways and actually start checking out these consoles as they come in. These things are coming on the market, and someone needs to take gamestop's place. i would give them another chance if they publicly accepted responsibility for this.
@@plasterchief9582 They’re still overpriced. Plus, it’s known that they, as a company, would use bots on eBay and buy up every console, game, etc for cheap, and resell them on their site for a huge markup. It’s caused the market prices for retro items to drastically increase. So yes it’s a scam and they are scumbags.
@@thickgirlsneedlove2190 It is a scam. If they actually refurbished everything they had and sold it would be overpriced and bad value but not a scam. But the fact that they claim that everything is refurbished when they do not refurbish anything at all, and put in stickers to scare away people that do not know any better from opening it (so they dont find out that it is in fact not refurbished) IS a scam. They dont give you what they sell you. Simple as that
@PlasterChief something other posters haven't mentioned is dk oldies resurfaces all disks regardless of amount of scratches or if there working which decreases the lifespan
@@RowanBird779 I bought most of my super slim ps3s from gamestop around that time and it was less then used and new. Powergamer same thing. Regular used 64 in my area was 40. Refurbished was only 30. So you're lying
I remember when I was 18 I got a PS3 super slim refurbished for $55. It came with 6 controllers, 12 games, all of the cables, and each piece was individually cleaned.
I remember when I was 15 in 2006, brought a pre owned refurbished ps2 fat from ebgames. Got home disc drive had disc read error, returned it got another one, same thing. This happened 4 times till I finally got one that worked
Shoutout to Rich from ReviewTech and ESPECIALLY Jacob R. For brining these issues to light. Y’all should definitely shoutout those channels cuz they did the hard work before anyone else
Out of all the small channels covering this in depth Austin shoutouts to Charlie, the guy who clicked through a youtube video for 10 minutes and called it a day. 😐
Just get a pc and an emulator. I got a decent gaming rig (budget but still for 300$ it was exactly what I was looking for i53570k, 1050ti and 16gb ram that i overclocked) and I can emulate any game from ps1-3, xbox, ds/gba… no point of buying their overpriced shit
The most mind blowing fact about this is how not one person found it suspicious that someone ordered that many consoles and that MAYBE someone was going to review how well they 'refurbish' their consoles. I came across DKOldies a few months back and was going to order a couple retro consoles and with all the heat they're getting, I'm glad I did not.
What was going through your mind when you considered buying from them ?? Did you not realize the huge price difference from literally everywhere else on online ?? 🤦🏼♂️😂
@@markus7166 I didn't buy from them, I was considering it. I had assumed, like many others, that when they offer them refurbished that they're in a 'like new' condition. Ordering retro consoles is iffy because you never know what you're going to get when you buy from a private seller.
@@whydrah where did I say you bought from them ?? Even considering is idiotic when you can get on Facebook marketplace and find them for a fraction of the price in better condition. I've had no problem at all finding anything and everything on there and ebay in like new condition. You'd have to be a real sucker to even consider buying from someone who charges double the normal asking price 🤦🏼♂️😂
@@markus7166Because some people have more money than time and would rather just order something rather than go around hunting for one. That’s just a thought.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, DKOldies need to be held accountable for what they're doing to people. Not just the ridiculous pricing but the way they don't even touch the inside of their "Refurbished" consoles. Good to see Austin showing his viewers this!
Ask yourself, if the second hand store or donations fixed and cleaned every product you buy, you think they’ll sell for cheap? When I did appliance deliveries I never understood how some people would buy “refurbished” and then start complaining when we’d deliver about scuffs and dents etc like.... didn’t you know this when you bought it? Or you just wanted the refurbished priced with a like new appliance? He’s not going to be splitting machines open to clean them when you won’t do it yourself (or you may, but majority won’t risk it) and then expect to pay the same price. Yes they’re high, but that’s anywhere you go. If you have a decent pc then emulate what you can but if you don’t you’re only option is one of these consoles like it or not, the supply isn’t growing after 12-20 years for some consoles. Then again, everyone buys half assed stuff, so why wouldn’t the next guy decide to do the same? Sadly the people being honest and nice don’t make money, and those stingy and deceitful make bank. So if you want better prices do the work to find them, check second hand stores or ask older folks who no longer have their children around if they have any old consoles, you might just get lucky - otherwise unfortunately or fortunately it’s one these guys we have to deal with!
@@hakasonma8588 what about ebay or all the others means of acquiring 2nd hand items online? craiglist, facebook etc etc. i mostly bought my retrogaming stuff from ebay in the last 15 years and i never ever spent anything remotely close to the price ranges of DKOldies, and eBay is known to be littered with stupidly expensive listings and rigged auctions to push your bids higher and yet i never got in any proximity of those price tags!
Saddest part of this video is it came a little after a ton of the backlash they were receiving and clearly they changed nothing. They could have such a thriving business if they just did what they said they would do. I was very close to buying from them till I heard about all of this a month or two ago.
It's been months since they said they would fix it. They had a huge order of a ton of consoles. They knew the order was important and prob a youtuber. They clearly don't care.
DK Oldies have been around forever like Lukie Games and come up on Google searches for anything. Their target audience is casual nostalgia players that will never bother opening these up or comparing prices. It’s still crazy that with all the negative videos about them, a huge order like this didn’t set off some red flag.
@@lurch1539see I don’t think this order got any special treatment. Which means they didn’t realize it was going to a reviewer. Which means either someone isn’t paying attention or they don’t care, either situation sucks for the customer.
Issue is that you need to actually service consoles for people like this because they don't know much about it, they won't be servicing them themselves, and in the case with more modern consoles (like early PS3s and xbox 360s) that will lead to the disaster. On top of that, it's really immoral in my opinion to take money from people who don't know any better.
And that's why they can say whatever they want on their site knowing the average Joe won't be opening it. Whether that's legal to lie about refurbishing wel......just my thoughts
@@hikkamorii most nostalgics are collectors and do the maintance service them selfs they even prefer it like that bcz they are basically odl tech junkies
Well, goddamn. Even a big Techtuber like Austin is calling out DKOldies now. They really HAVE to straighten their business practice if they still want to stay... well, in business. No sweeping anything under the rag anymore, I'm afraid.
The worst part? The fact that they seem to be deliberately putting their own warranty stickers on to discourage people from doing exactly this, because if you do and it is like this? Guess what, they can basically tell you to beat it and run off with your money because you voided their warranty.
this is why i stuck to ebay after gamestop stopped shipping retro stuff. the prices still stunk back when I didn't know any better. and after that i know too much, i knew not to ever buy anything for dkoldies for as long as their prices were that high. but since i know now that they don't bother cleaning their consoles unless its something like the gameboy (which is still far too overpriced), i would never buy anything from these guys. i know some peeps frown upon using ebay, but at least there you know the condition you're buying it, weither it works, and image of the console itself.
@@nicholasharron3325 not everyone opens their consoles to check the fans and thermal paste. Gotta think 99% of people just stick it on their TV stand and play. They're not seeing the clumps of dust, thermal paste damage, and everything else inside. If you're charging premium price for a refurbished unit that thing better be as close to new as possible
@@brandonosborne2007 buy it in person then and not online! Let’s just ship everything anyway, so I can sit home and collect some more diabetes. This isn’t NEW NEWS!!!
@@nicholasharron3325That argument holds no weight. Not everyone lives within 30 minutes of a retro game store. Plus if a site says their products are refurbished and charges more than top dollar, then the products need to be damn near perfect.
You mentioned it in the beginning but the fact that there was a huge batch order on systems, which should've alerted them it was probably a content creator, and they still couldn't be bothered with refurbishing them is quite concerning.
Cause the employees don’t care, they want this company to go down as much as everybody else, this has been going on for about 2+ months with no changes soon they’ll go out of business
You have to pay attention to the DKoldies stickers. Its straight dishonest how they sell you the thing as having a warranty then the stick those where the screws or the seams are so you can't open it without voiding the warranty. They fully expect you to not attempt to open them at all so they don't bother with the inside. They insidiously hold the implied value of the warranty which is their entire selling point at those exorbitant prices over you, so you reasonably as a consumer will simply take them as is and not check the inside.
@Alexis Rivera not many people know that those warranty stickers don't mean shit in the USA, you can open and explore all you want, as long as your attempt doesn't directly cause a malfunction
@@alexisrivera200xable Which is hilarious because you can't legally void warranty in the US because of warranty stickers being torn anyways lol Maybe if the customer legitimately damaged the consoles
Jacob R did an interview with an ex employee and he said they don't open them up unless you can hear something rattling around inside or it doesn't work so they have to look inside to try and see if it's something fixable. They basically do the shake test lol if it functions and they can shake it without hearing anything funny, it gets shipped with nothing more than an exterior cleaning.
That's not a good idea business wise. They are deceiving their customers in buying consoles that are supposed to be "refurbished." Having big channels like Austin Evans call them out will definitely put the nail in the coffin on their business.
Then how did they ship that 360 without replacing the disk drive. You heard the sound it made when he put a game in it? Like what kills me about this is they aren't doing the bare minimum. Like local shops will refurbish stuff, open it up and clean it really well. Idk why these guys can't.
11:44 Funny enough those void stickers are actually illegal in the United States under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, so even if they did enforce that, you can probably fight them over it, assuming you didn't break it when opening. Edit: I am aware that the sticker itself is not illegal, but many companies do void the warranty if the sticker is tampered with, which is illegal according to the FTC. And also, please do not take this as law advice BTW, as I'm not a lawyer.
What I find interesting is that several of the consoles in these unboxing videos had the residue of a previous DKOldies seal peaking out from the current seal including this Dreamcast . This leads me to believe that they were previously sold by DKO and were returned , most likely with a problem , and then checked/fixed and were resold . They must have a pretty high return rate which is understandable given the lack of actual refurbing going on there .
Man, I'd be freaking furious if I had received that PS3. That thing ain't worth more than $50 in that condition. It's honestly a miracle it still works as well as it does. I see why they have those warranty stickers on them, since opening them up voids their warranty and they don't have to do crap even in these types of events.
@@wiltisdabest Most people don't do anything... because good fucking luck getting the company to budge on it. Yes, it is not legal... but you'd have to drag the company through court in order to cash in most the time. Which, would be exceedingly expensive. Way more expensive than your warranty's worth. That's why nobody goes through with it. And trust me, companies will just make a BS reason why anyways.
@@Xyler94 It's worth pointing out it would be incredibly easy to get those stickers off without tearing them with a scalpel, save them and just reapply them once you've poked around inside. Most are barely hanging on to begin with. I guess you could see that as being dishonest but I think they lost the right to complain about dishonesty when they started charging triple what these are worth and don't even properly refurbish them.
@@Xyler94 that happens almost everywhere. Legislation is favourable to companies in any capitalistic system. Before you can put before judge a company what happened to you must be happened to many other people
I bought a "refurbished" gameboy from DKOldies. The funny thing is that this was the clear version so you could see into the console without opening it and it was clear that they left dirt inside and the only thing the actually did was replace the plastic screen protector
There is a huge difference between "pre-owned" and "refurbished". A truly refurbed item has been taken apart, cleaned, repaired, and tested, then certified that it works THE SAME AS NEW. The items generally have a decent warranty as well.
Technically, there is no "LEGAL" standpoint definition for the word "Refurbished". Refurbished is a synonym for reconditioned in which is under the entitlement (or definition) of pre-owned. As Americans, since we use fancy words to make things sound better and appealing, there are expectation behind those words. In the end, DK Oldies are running a legal business and advertising correctly. Is it still overpriced and taking advantage of old school gamers, YES. Are they breaking any laws or scamming anyone, NO. You are getting what you paid for a working old console.
😂😂😂 funny you mean business it's called supply and demand if you can find it cheap stfu and go get it stop batching about prices you can't afford or are not willing to pay bc guess what someone else will pay it 😂😂 every retro store does this shit no one is innocent and if you think some are your funny
Yeah but the reason you're paying premium here is for the console being refurbished and cleaned, the PS3 you got could have dust bunnies and who knows what inside. Average joe doesn't know nor do they want to bother with cleaning up the console. Edit because some people think I'm defending DKOldies somehow which I'm not, I was just trying to say the REASON DKO charges premium prices is because they claim they do refurbishment and cleaning which clearly they don't. But if they did all that then the premium prices would be ok.
@@BenjaminHariyea but dk Oldies is charging $500 for ps3s and they don’t even touch the inside of it and barely even clean the outside and you get an off brand controller
Should’ve ordered each one individually to different addresses because having a batch order alerts them to be more cautious since they’ll suspect it’s a content creator’s order
Exactly what I thought. Maybe not a content creator, but they definitely would be more "careful" if one guy buys like 10 consoles for himself from them.
It's a scam in the sense they used to sell stuff at decent prices like Goodwill back in the day, but then raised their price to be the same as Ebay or anywhere else. Pointless to buy from, takes longer and I think there was shipping last time I ordered.
Dkoldies seems like the one game store guy at your local flee market who buys all the good stuff from other vendors and then tries to sell it for online prices as long as it works
Reminds me of the people who go to yardsales and take advantage of homeowners' lack of knowledge of what their goods are actually worth and resale them online 3x the amount.
Hey Austin, make sure to play that Dreamcast for longer than just a few minutes. It's a common issue with older Dreamcasts where the solder on the power port will become brittle enough that once it heats the system will reboot, cooling the solder just enough for it to boot back up almost immediately. It looks like a software reboot, but it's a full power circle due to bad solder.
Now you have me worried, I have played my Dreamcast for hours on end (finished sa1 in one sitting due to lack of vmu). It terribly heats up but I never had this problem before. I bought it used.
Update: days later my disk drive stopped working properly. I've owned this for almost 6 years and it spent the last six months in a box and has somehow become yellow.
Man, this is why I'm very grateful that I've been able to keep all of my older consoles and didn't need to trade them to when I moved on to the next generation. I tend to take really good care of my consoles and at least twice a year I'll open it up and clean the inside, fans, etc... Luckily my consoles going back to the Xbox 360, PS3, and even my PS2 are still in good condition. These Retro games prices are pretty outrageous.
I'm sad cuz my dad made me give my ps1 to my cousin who destroyed it by the time we went back to his house already. A former friend stole my DS and pokemon game in it. My ps2 fell like 20 yrs ago and only reads ps1 games and my mom forced me to trade in my 360. I wanna buy a ds but I haven't seen any anywhere near as pristine as I keep my shit for sale. My gameboy advance sp doesn't even have scratches, and I got it in 2003 or 2004 whenever it launched
@@Rspsand07hat's sad I only sold my old stuff so I could buy the new stuff coming out, later i knew that what i was doing was a mistake since when i sold my ps3 to buy a ps4 i had to give up the ps3 for 100 bucks and still give 300 more Then the same game shop was selling my ps3 for 200 bucks
9:30 Fun fact about the GameCube is Nintendo built them with Japan and USA region selection from the factory. Ifixit has a tutorial where you can install a switch to flip the regions between Japan and USA.
Fun fact about the gamecube is Japan and USA are the same region and japanese gamecubes play US games just fine with no mods. Dkoldies did not install shit.
This is why I’m fine with buying 50$ older used consoles from pawnshops or local game stores. I have everything needed to actually refurbish it myself and they usually have a 30-60 day return window incase i find a problem i can’t fix.
DK Oldies can’t cover up their scamming ways now. Jacob R, ReviewtechUSA, Penguinz0, and now Austin Evans. If these guys can’t get DKOldies to stop lying and to start being honest, then I don’t know who can.
Ooooh, so this is why I stopped seeing their shorts spammed everywhere, lol Also, yes, those prices are not just overpriced, they are straight out of this world....
I was highly considering ordering from them six months ago and then I kept seeing videos of them but now this officially does it for me I’m not doing business with them. Thank you, Austin.
I can almost guarantee that 360 was returned early in its life cycle to Microsoft to be fixed, i had my first gen 360 for only a few weeks before it started having disc read errors and had to be shipped back to them. I was lucky and never got the red rings but they tried charging me another $100 for the repair claiming it was out of warranty, it did however come back with the updated cooling design...
Yea me too hell I had a PS5 that went up I’m smoke when they first came out sent it back to Sony took them like 5 months to give it back I almost bought another one
Hello, Austin. I work for DKOldies and we've made some policy changes. We will now be fully cleaning the interiors of our consoles, and the good news is it'll only add 500.00 to the cost of each console for our customers! You'll still be able to purchase our "Refurbished" consoles at their regular price, but if you select "Actually Refurbished" you'll get one thats been done correctly for a small 500.00 fee! Thanks for your input!
Time to have an employee breakdown, clean, reapply thermal paste to a console, 2 hours. At 15$/hr and supply cost, $40 total operating cost. Markup $100+
Nice to have a high profile RUclipsr like you expose them for all their crap. Hopefully they will see a dip in their sales and actually do something to fix it.
Lol they wont see a dip in their sales if everyone keeps buying from them just to review how shitty they did lmao this video is a classic example. He paid 1000$+ for those console and all the ones he did open up were not clean.
I’m so glad bigger RUclipsrs like Evan is getting into this because it needs to be shown and make customers that are getting false advertised items they are being scammed by this money hungry company
I didn’t even know who DK oldies was until about a week ago, and I can say they are the reason I have never once bought a single refurbished or used item, because I know companies will just absolutely rip you off and get away with it. Rather just buy one at a garage sale
not everyone's like them I ordered a refurbished gpu off amazon, amazon will test it themselves and if it doesn't function like its brand new they wont allow it to be sold.
@@legoyoda9782 my cousin bought a PS4 Refurbished from GameStop, the top was scratched to hell, I had to add thermal paste for him since it came with literally none, and the fan was caked in dust. My girlfriend bought a refurbished monitor from Amazon, the backlights in it were bad. The screen word turn on but it was so dim you couldn’t see. Had to replace those too. I rather just pay the few extra bucks and get new. Companies “refurbished” is slang for “might work” and I don’t like gambling
call me a buzzkill, but its so much more practical and not to mention free to emulate. You get saves wherever in game you want as well as multiple save files, the best part is you dont need high end hardware for most previous gen or older console emulation Not to say i want the old school market to die, but it is over glamorized and the people who are doing it for nostalgia purpose are being mislead
But sometimes the game was made for a certain controller, only looks good on a CRT and emulators can also have a problem with input lag. Nothing wrong with emulation but there's certain things your missing.
Honestly disgraceful, especially when they (DKOldies and probably GameStop) demonstrate their ability to actually restore consoles properly, but no, gotta make them profit margins with as little effort as possible
The problem with the ps3 is that instead of trying to clean it properly, they used the magic eraser thing, absolutely destroying the gloss finish, which probably already looked scuffed to hell
I just wanna know why almost all their PS3 consoles look similar once you start to disassemble them. If they were truly refurbished, we shouldn't be greeted by dust.
Wanted to get some insight on DKolldies as a collector. Tried to watch this video, but the over dramatic screams, stupid noises and gestures had me move on to another video. RUclips is flooded with these dorks.
If i paid 280 bucks for some piece of shit that was supposed to be refurbished i would also get squeamish, either you’re a masochist and like getting scammed or extremely stupid.
I like how it started off fine and went disgustingly downhill from there. Thanks for doing this video Austin. DKOldies has now officially been reviewed on all of my sub channels and it's been consistently bad.
Lol the whole DKOldies situation in general started off fine and went disgustingly downhill. At first it was "wow these guys overprice their consoles by a lot, but they're not a scam," and now it's "wow, these guys are charging premium prices and are blatantly lying about refurbishing anything."
A former employee said in a video at reviewtechusa that if Dkoldies recognizes that an order is going to be on a famous yt channel or is a large enough purchase, they give preferential treatment to the console they ship. They clean the outside as much as they possibly can. Austin’s order is not going to be like most other smaller console purchases
Idk what you mean because Austin's order had plenty negative to mention that culminates in an absolutely disgusting Playstation. Austin's order seems to be plenty like other orders.
@@CookieByNature i missed that part, dkoldies does give preferential treatment to large orders so that the same customer can buy more large orders from them in the future.
@@Mr_Mcfeely remember Autrin never used his name. Someone else used their name. So DK Oldies probably didn't even have a clue it was even for Austin. That's why DK Oldies didn't give him special treatment.
Also notice the fact that even for THAT price they never give you a genuine controller with any console. I think (this is just a speculation) but I think they do this so they can also sell the original controller for extra money. So not only do they make a lot of profit on the console. They also resell the genuine controller for extra money
I’m kind of glad to have seen this, I had always assumed that DK Oldies mostly got hate for their prices, but until they get this fixed, I don’t know if I can purchase from them.
never purchase from them for all the videos that have been shown for how horrible condition they've looked and the lies you have to be an idiot on not paying attention to it
@@ShaOryDow i'm in canada and even when it auto adjusts to CAD prices they are outrageous the fan favourite snes pack for example goes for 370 and it would be 60$ more if you add 2 original controllers where i went to a mom and pop store payed 150$ for one with a controller and all OEM cords even a ps1 goes for 180 where i can get one for 60$ at most
Just buy second hand from someone. Seriously. I've got 30+ consoles, all acquired for roughly 30-40 bucks at most (with exceptions, some even cheaper, and only a few a bit more expensive). All I had to do was do a teardown myself and clean it up on the inside. There's hundreds of videos online on how to do that. You also always get extra stuff with it like controllers, sometimes even games. It's just not worth it buying from them, even if they were cheaper and actually refurbished the consoles.
Back WAY before this drama was occurring (around May of 2022), I was planning on buying a Nintendo 2DS from them as my little sister accidentally dropped my old one down two flights of stairs in 2020, and I really wanted to get a new one. I saw some of their videos on shorts and looked on their website to see that they actually did have a few. Only drawback was the price which was almost $200.00!!!! I did have enough money though and my mom was fine with buying it, but something told us that we shouldn't get it from there. That was an amazing decision we made because we later bought from a Walmart seller for only 90 bucks and had excellent condition. That was probably a good decision we made.
I bought a nintendo switch from them and it can only down load one game at a time but het this i bought one from nintendo direct and its mid aswell who knew
When DkOldies first started making videos, I remember telling people that shit was over priced and I bet all he did was use air duster and packaged it. You could just tell by his “packaging” videos, the way he would just toss the stuff around that he doesn’t give a shit.
It's not just a problem, it is literally fraud. This is why I never buy refurbished. Either buy it second hand in good condition or learn to refurbish it yourself. Not only does it work out cheaper the majority of the time, it's actually very rewarding learning a new skill like this.
Seems like a really pointless website. Regardless of the condition, stuff like 360s and PS3s are not worth the prices they're setting them at even at the best of times. These are neither new modern systems OR retro systems. They're not PS5s and they not something like a PC Engine. They're in the middle ground, the place the PS2 was at a few years ago. You should be getting these for like fifty bucks at the high end.
SO GLAD they are finally being exposed. Their prices have been outrages for so long, but the quality they are in is ridiculous. Along with the shorts they upload to cover there face is so wrong. Couldn't be happier with their downfall tbh
I'd happily pay a bit over the odds for a professionally restored console. I've taken a few consoles apart to clean in the past, and casemodded an xbox 360 and that's a pain in the arse as it is, so the idea of someone fully reconditioning and assessing a console is nice. What DKO do is so scummy.
The outside of the consoles as well aren’t always taken good care of either by DKOldies. As others have pointed out, using magic erasers as you see in the refurbish vid will actually cause abrasions on the surface of your console, making that Wii loose it’s glossy coat and be left with a scuffed mess. There’s other outside cosmetic horror shows on RUclips as well. So inside and out, you’re getting a bad deal from them. Glad you added another case against them, Austin!
The magic eraser part of their video gave me anxiety. Magic Erasers are basically sandpaper, they're SO abrasive. I'd be willing to bet that's why the finish on the PS3 in this video looks so bad. Its already easily scratched and they clean things with a magic eraser 😭
Computer Exchange here in the UK, also known as CeX, are a second hand tech store who offer a 2-year warranty, so it is something that does happen, albeit rarely, and they (mostly, as I've had moments with them over the years) are pretty damn good with said warranty as well. Just wanted to throw that in there as it's kind of a rare thing, even in the UK.
I actually worked at CeX for a year up until end of November 2022. I was the main tester so if you wanted to sell any hardware it goes to me for test. I have a very strict process because I repair stuff myself (not plugging but I make videos on my channel) and I know how miserable it is buying a "refurbished" console that is basically miserable on the inside. I worked with too many consoles at CeX to know what is classified as "good" and "unacceptable". One time there was a fucking OG PS4 with dust so bad you couldn't even see the holes where the vents should be, dust was brown and green, stayed on for 10 minutes then shut off. It was extremely loud too. Had consoles with warranty stickers removed and that was a hard no. Got consoles where it was very clearly tampered with and I always said no to my managers even if they were in good Nick and fully working. As a repair tech the standards people need to have in order to maintain customers is a big responsibility, and I know how fucked up it is when people come back saying their consoles don't work, we had a few Xbox Ones and PS4s with that issue. Luckily most of them were just OS corruption I could fix in 10 minutes (even though my manager never allowed us to) but I went the extra mile to make sure my customers were satisfied using my knowledge and skills. And for DKOldies, that to me, for charging such a high price and having such a bad standard is merely unacceptable. Like Austin said, for 200 dollars you could get yourself a GameBoy Advance that's fully kitted out with good quality internals. That to me (if I wanted to spend that much) would be a better option rather than refurbished ones having bone dry internals from like 30 years ago. Fuck me. DKOldies, pattern up man.
I've bought numerous consoles and games from CeX over the years.. and can never fault them. Everything I bought, especially my Wii, for £45, mint condition, and included all the accessories was the best thing they offered.
I have only 1 issue with CeX. About 4-5 years ago, I bought a Silver Fat PS2 with a controller for £27. Those were the days, lol. My controller was broken. I had to get a new one, but besides that. That's the only issue I have had with them.
Same in Australia CeX does a good job honouring and standing behind their products, I have bought stuff from them before and what do you know?… the thermal paste was new, and it was dusted out. Granted they don’t do it for all, but at least they don’t call it refurbished. For the items I have had issues with, no questions asked, they replace it.
For the gamecube their region can be changed very easily if you just move one fuse up. If you crack it open you will probably see where the worm is done. It's better to use a switch though because you are already doing the soldering and it enables you to play from any region.
Based on the DKOldies sticker on the Dreamcast, it looks like it may have been returned. If so, they probably actually cleaned it this time and resold it.
Among the popular theories, one that I am supporting is that they took in more orders than they could fulfill using the advertised process, and started taking shortcuts to save face, then slowly sank into all shortcuts and still made the videos to rake in more profits!
if company's like Gamestop can somewhat refurbish systems so can they Dk oldies is nothing but a scam and to be called out by the biggest tech reviewer on the platform is something else hopefully they get the message probably not
To be fair the process they showed was checking to see if it worked, then taking it apart when it didn't. They never mentioned what they do if it works, which is apparently just clean off the exterior and ship it.
Definitely need to thank everyone that took the risk for us and I’m glad I researched before I bought anything from them I also nearly got scammed but didn’t purchase anything so saved myself the trouble 😭😂
He's a slightly smaller channel than yours, but ReviewTechUSA (RTU) has been following this DKOldies controversy for months now. He even has interviews with former employees. Certainly worth checking out.
8:00 the grease makes sense cuz you have to grease the mechanical parts in the disk drive in order for the tray to come out smoothly on the 360. So with that said, you are always gonna have a little bit of residue left over. As for the dust, yeah there is no excuse for that.
Thanks for this video. I honestly got tired of getting videos from them that are made to promote older generation's nostalgia to younger folks, only to sell a trashier version of old gen's memories. You deserve better than these scams.
Austin, I hope you will consider a follow-up video down the line. Did they stand behind their warranty and how was their customer service regarding the subpar condition vs expectation? I've had very few issues with eBay, but a shop with proper support is appealing.
The "love" that goes into the outside of the consoles is a magic eraser. Will a lite touch of it is fine for dull finishes, using them on a shiny finish will dull it and scratch it.
That refurbishing video by DK Oldies was made in response to the criticism from all the youtubers. DK knows what they doing and selling consoles to more casual gamers who usually don't investigate is how they make their money. Interviews from previous employees are showing that they are told not to clean systems even if they have open it up if something not working.
I guy locally told me a lot about these consoles. Many people have no idea how many on the market are never actually cleaned. GameStop was literally forced to actually refurbish these consoles once the word got out. The same goes for TVs & other electronics. The major failure is dust build up. Eventually the fans can't disperse the heat, & they start overheating which slowly kills the boards
Is that why EB Games over here in New Zealand actually started branding their consoles as refurbished not pre owned, cause GameStop was caught out and made to actually refurbish
The thing that stands out about the DKOldies video about refurbishing is the fact that the Wii wasn't reading disk and they had to repair it. This makes you ask if it wasn't broken would they "refurbish" it? They didn't give an example of what they do with EVERY console, they had no choice but to fix that Wii.
There’s a difference between a store having overhead and straight up overpriced products that aren’t even cleaned much less in working order
@DontReadMyProfilePhoto_3 dont read deez nutz
@Don't Read My Profile Photo Don't come around here no more. (Good song)
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Yeah, their prices are absolutely insane. They're selling PS2 slim models for $185. I have multiple slims I spent no more than 40-50 on per console on (locally, online, marketplace), which came with games, memory cards and multiple official controllers. I have no idea how DKOldies even lists their consoles for that much but people still buy them
See this is the thing. They buy their consoles and games in lots and yard sales and save BIG on it. They have absolutely no issues with profit margins. This is just laziness and greed from the owner.
$180 for an OG 360 is absolutely insane. I see them in mom and pop stores for $30-40 all the time
i have 3 of them just sitting around in drawers
You also should go get them at flea markets as well, as I have seen them sell for good prices. I also highly recommend that you get PS1 and PS2 stuff from them as well. I managed to snag a copy of Fire Pro Wrestling R/Returns for $ USD 8 once from a flea market.
Like three years in a row GameStop was doing $50 360s in a row with a 49.99 instant rebate on black Fridays, this was around the time of the slim PS4/spiderman deal iirc
@@funderburke43 yup I remember that deal. I bought a super slim 360 for my nephew and it even came with the official camo controller. They were basically giving them away. Probably to clean out their overstock. Everybody had a 360 back in the day. they are easy to find
I could MAYBE understand if they were selling the 250gb slim with 2 controllers. MAYBE.
Calling DKoldies a trustful company is like calling GameStop a great store.
@@Don't Read My Profile Photo can you stop being a bot please
Like saying GameStop gives best value for trade-ins
@Don't Read My Profile Photo shut up
Bro is literally everywhere.
For other stuff it's pretty great tbh. Just don't try to trade in games. But they have some nice clothes and figures in there
If you don't disassemble, clean, repaste and reassemble properly it's not a refurbishment.
Ideally refurbish includes replacement of failing capacitors, batteries or other electronics.
This is an absolute kill shot. All the negative press over the past few months and they get a relatively suspicious looking order asking for one of each of their consoles. Almost like someone might be gearing up for a massive review and they still send out worse than some of the original examples to start all of this. Gonna be hard to recover from these bigger channels calling them out.
Especially with how one of their ex-employees called them out on an interview with Rich from review tech recently in that they play favorites with repeat / high order customers.
So if what they gave Austin was the premium treatment then just imagine regular customers lol.
It will be game over when mrwhosetheboss and mkbhd reviews them.
@@degenerate8228 or LinusTechTips
@@katsudon2048 I know he's not in the UK, but TheRetroFuture just did a video on them as well. It's entirely possible for someone in Europe to get an order from them, I wouldn't be surprised to see MrWhoseTheBoss make a video on them in the future.
maybe they can see the error of their ways and actually start checking out these consoles as they come in. These things are coming on the market, and someone needs to take gamestop's place. i would give them another chance if they publicly accepted responsibility for this.
Thank to all these RUclipsrs they saved me so much money. I was so close to buying a TON from DK oldies
Not a scam
The games seem fine, it's just the consoles
@@plasterchief9582 They’re still overpriced. Plus, it’s known that they, as a company, would use bots on eBay and buy up every console, game, etc for cheap, and resell them on their site for a huge markup. It’s caused the market prices for retro items to drastically increase. So yes it’s a scam and they are scumbags.
@@thickgirlsneedlove2190 It is a scam. If they actually refurbished everything they had and sold it would be overpriced and bad value but not a scam. But the fact that they claim that everything is refurbished when they do not refurbish anything at all, and put in stickers to scare away people that do not know any better from opening it (so they dont find out that it is in fact not refurbished) IS a scam. They dont give you what they sell you. Simple as that
@PlasterChief something other posters haven't mentioned is dk oldies resurfaces all disks regardless of amount of scratches or if there working which decreases the lifespan
I would dare to say this is a pretty final, ultimate nail in the DKOldies coffin, honestly. Thank you for covering the topic, guys.
They arent going anywhere they have thosands of customers who dont follow troll on uoutube
If I bought a "refurbished" console for more than it cost new 15 years ago and it was a fucking rustbucket I wouldn't be buying from them anymore
If Unbox therapy refuted the scam claims then that would be the final nail 😂😂😂
@@RowanBird779 15 years ago refurbished consoles were 10 to 50 bucks cheaper then used. So I'm calling bullshit on you.
@@RowanBird779 I bought most of my super slim ps3s from gamestop around that time and it was less then used and new. Powergamer same thing. Regular used 64 in my area was 40. Refurbished was only 30. So you're lying
I remember when I was 18 I got a PS3 super slim refurbished for $55. It came with 6 controllers, 12 games, all of the cables, and each piece was individually cleaned.
In 2012 my mom had a fit that I asked for an Xbox 360 that costed a whole $90 used
@@ethanrosnow7874when I needed a new controller. I had to fight my parents to not get the cheaper knock off controllers lmao
I got a 350 for $75 refurbished had it for bout 3 years then red ring of death hit me but it was the same came with all pieces and was cleaned
I remember when I was 15 in 2006, brought a pre owned refurbished ps2 fat from ebgames. Got home disc drive had disc read error, returned it got another one, same thing. This happened 4 times till I finally got one that worked
i got a ps4 for 100 bucks with 30 games and one controller. dk olllies bein horrible😂
Shoutout to Rich from ReviewTech and ESPECIALLY Jacob R. For brining these issues to light. Y’all should definitely shoutout those channels cuz they did the hard work before anyone else
i bet that reviewDKOLDIESusa will be reacting to this video tomorrow
For real Jacob R is the one who started this smh
Out of all the small channels covering this in depth Austin shoutouts to Charlie, the guy who clicked through a youtube video for 10 minutes and called it a day. 😐
@@randomname2308 lol try today
Nah
yes, yes it is
@Don't Read My Profile Photo I won’t trust me
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Depends how you define "scam". I would personally call it a "rip-off" instead.
@Mr retro gamer 1238 meatrider detected
Just get a pc and an emulator. I got a decent gaming rig (budget but still for 300$ it was exactly what I was looking for i53570k, 1050ti and 16gb ram that i overclocked) and I can emulate any game from ps1-3, xbox, ds/gba… no point of buying their overpriced shit
The most mind blowing fact about this is how not one person found it suspicious that someone ordered that many consoles and that MAYBE someone was going to review how well they 'refurbish' their consoles. I came across DKOldies a few months back and was going to order a couple retro consoles and with all the heat they're getting, I'm glad I did not.
What was going through your mind when you considered buying from them ?? Did you not realize the huge price difference from literally everywhere else on online ?? 🤦🏼♂️😂
@@markus7166 I didn't buy from them, I was considering it. I had assumed, like many others, that when they offer them refurbished that they're in a 'like new' condition. Ordering retro consoles is iffy because you never know what you're going to get when you buy from a private seller.
@@whydrah where did I say you bought from them ?? Even considering is idiotic when you can get on Facebook marketplace and find them for a fraction of the price in better condition. I've had no problem at all finding anything and everything on there and ebay in like new condition. You'd have to be a real sucker to even consider buying from someone who charges double the normal asking price 🤦🏼♂️😂
Same with me for the purchase thing. Ill trust my local places or Facebook market
@@markus7166Because some people have more money than time and would rather just order something rather than go around hunting for one. That’s just a thought.
So much money for the consoles but don’t even come with cables. That’s disgusting
a scam
I've said it before and I'll say it again, DKOldies need to be held accountable for what they're doing to people. Not just the ridiculous pricing but the way they don't even touch the inside of their "Refurbished" consoles. Good to see Austin showing his viewers this!
The only way to hurt DKOldies is to not give them your money. Take your business elsewhere! (Not you, you. The general you.)
Agreed they should be held accountable it's good to see more people showing what dk does.
Ask yourself, if the second hand store or donations fixed and cleaned every product you buy, you think they’ll sell for cheap?
When I did appliance deliveries I never understood how some people would buy “refurbished” and then start complaining when we’d deliver about scuffs and dents etc like.... didn’t you know this when you bought it? Or you just wanted the refurbished priced with a like new appliance?
He’s not going to be splitting machines open to clean them when you won’t do it yourself (or you may, but majority won’t risk it) and then expect to pay the same price.
Yes they’re high, but that’s anywhere you go. If you have a decent pc then emulate what you can but if you don’t you’re only option is one of these consoles like it or not, the supply isn’t growing after 12-20 years for some consoles.
Then again, everyone buys half assed stuff, so why wouldn’t the next guy decide to do the same? Sadly the people being honest and nice don’t make money, and those stingy and deceitful make bank.
So if you want better prices do the work to find them, check second hand stores or ask older folks who no longer have their children around if they have any old consoles, you might just get lucky - otherwise unfortunately or fortunately it’s one these guys we have to deal with!
Lol calm down.
@@hakasonma8588 what about ebay or all the others means of acquiring 2nd hand items online? craiglist, facebook etc etc. i mostly bought my retrogaming stuff from ebay in the last 15 years and i never ever spent anything remotely close to the price ranges of DKOldies, and eBay is known to be littered with stupidly expensive listings and rigged auctions to push your bids higher and yet i never got in any proximity of those price tags!
Saddest part of this video is it came a little after a ton of the backlash they were receiving and clearly they changed nothing. They could have such a thriving business if they just did what they said they would do. I was very close to buying from them till I heard about all of this a month or two ago.
It's been months since they said they would fix it. They had a huge order of a ton of consoles. They knew the order was important and prob a youtuber. They clearly don't care.
They expecting the one who buy their products are stupid and only care about the outside and spend a stupid amount of money for it
@@EllRiver yeah that was silly to buy so much in a single order AND using his real name apparently..
@@ashadowintime7305 dude literally says “I did not order these, and my name is not on this packaging”.
They have a very thriving business clearly if all these RUclipsrs are buying their stock to do “check” videos lmao. Marketing W
Those super slim PS3s were actually cheaper than what theyre selling them for. When they were new.
DK Oldies have been around forever like Lukie Games and come up on Google searches for anything. Their target audience is casual nostalgia players that will never bother opening these up or comparing prices.
It’s still crazy that with all the negative videos about them, a huge order like this didn’t set off some red flag.
@@lurch1539see I don’t think this order got any special treatment. Which means they didn’t realize it was going to a reviewer. Which means either someone isn’t paying attention or they don’t care, either situation sucks for the customer.
Issue is that you need to actually service consoles for people like this because they don't know much about it, they won't be servicing them themselves, and in the case with more modern consoles (like early PS3s and xbox 360s) that will lead to the disaster. On top of that, it's really immoral in my opinion to take money from people who don't know any better.
And that's why they can say whatever they want on their site knowing the average Joe won't be opening it. Whether that's legal to lie about refurbishing wel......just my thoughts
@@hikkamorii most nostalgics are collectors and do the maintance service them selfs they even prefer it like that bcz they are basically odl tech junkies
@@notoriousbig3k I agree, but I get why not everyone would want it, and so the service that they provide makes sense. To bad they don't do it...
Well, goddamn. Even a big Techtuber like Austin is calling out DKOldies now. They really HAVE to straighten their business practice if they still want to stay... well, in business. No sweeping anything under the rag anymore, I'm afraid.
Unfortunately I don’t see that happening, I think the owner of dk has to much pride for that
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@Don't Read My Profile Photo bot
There are too many casuals. So unless an anti-DKOldies video goes trending, and a lot of their casuals watch it, not likely for now.
@@jaimerosas5998 agreed. He’s very egotistical and will ride DKOldies into the ground.
The worst part? The fact that they seem to be deliberately putting their own warranty stickers on to discourage people from doing exactly this, because if you do and it is like this? Guess what, they can basically tell you to beat it and run off with your money because you voided their warranty.
Nope. Those stickers don't legally mean anything at all. If they wanna deny your warranty they gotta prove you broke it.
@@saybrowtur wrong an employee that worked there did an interview an he said it himself that’s why they do that , definitely a scam
Those stickers don't do jack anymore. That became illegal a few years ago. It's why you don't see them much anymore.
worst part is the whole video
Although people often do not know this, and they are genuinely afraid of breaking those stickers
this is why i stuck to ebay after gamestop stopped shipping retro stuff.
the prices still stunk back when I didn't know any better. and after that i know too much, i knew not to ever buy anything for dkoldies for as long as their prices were that high. but since i know now that they don't bother cleaning their consoles unless its something like the gameboy (which is still far too overpriced), i would never buy anything from these guys. i know some peeps frown upon using ebay, but at least there you know the condition you're buying it, weither it works, and image of the console itself.
My issue is I imagine Austin ordered these things AFTER they were exposed, and they STILL are not refurbished😂
The clowns still backing up DKOldies are pathetic. Lol
This is absolutely the final nail in the coffin. They are 100% scamming and it’s disgusting.
Think the real scam is that nobody cared til 25 year old RUclipsrs started posting 300 videos about them
@@nicholasharron3325 not everyone opens their consoles to check the fans and thermal paste. Gotta think 99% of people just stick it on their TV stand and play. They're not seeing the clumps of dust, thermal paste damage, and everything else inside. If you're charging premium price for a refurbished unit that thing better be as close to new as possible
@@brandonosborne2007 buy it in person then and not online! Let’s just ship everything anyway, so I can sit home and collect some more diabetes. This isn’t NEW NEWS!!!
@@nicholasharron3325That argument holds no weight. Not everyone lives within 30 minutes of a retro game store. Plus if a site says their products are refurbished and charges more than top dollar, then the products need to be damn near perfect.
@@nicholasharron3325dkoldies wasn't even that popular until they started bringing it up
You mentioned it in the beginning but the fact that there was a huge batch order on systems, which should've alerted them it was probably a content creator, and they still couldn't be bothered with refurbishing them is quite concerning.
Cause the employees don’t care, they want this company to go down as much as everybody else, this has been going on for about 2+ months with no changes soon they’ll go out of business
They only take care for repeat customers it seems. But even then it's a stretch.
You have to pay attention to the DKoldies stickers. Its straight dishonest how they sell you the thing as having a warranty then the stick those where the screws or the seams are so you can't open it without voiding the warranty. They fully expect you to not attempt to open them at all so they don't bother with the inside. They insidiously hold the implied value of the warranty which is their entire selling point at those exorbitant prices over you, so you reasonably as a consumer will simply take them as is and not check the inside.
@Alexis Rivera not many people know that those warranty stickers don't mean shit in the USA, you can open and explore all you want, as long as your attempt doesn't directly cause a malfunction
@@alexisrivera200xable Which is hilarious because you can't legally void warranty in the US because of warranty stickers being torn anyways lol Maybe if the customer legitimately damaged the consoles
$150 for a GBC is actually criminal.
Jacob R did an interview with an ex employee and he said they don't open them up unless you can hear something rattling around inside or it doesn't work so they have to look inside to try and see if it's something fixable. They basically do the shake test lol if it functions and they can shake it without hearing anything funny, it gets shipped with nothing more than an exterior cleaning.
That's not a good idea business wise. They are deceiving their customers in buying consoles that are supposed to be "refurbished." Having big channels like Austin Evans call them out will definitely put the nail in the coffin on their business.
Then how did they ship that 360 without replacing the disk drive. You heard the sound it made when he put a game in it? Like what kills me about this is they aren't doing the bare minimum. Like local shops will refurbish stuff, open it up and clean it really well. Idk why these guys can't.
@@GundamGokuTV he can only
Tell how things were done when he was working there. Between when he left and the present maybe they got even lazier. 🤷
The Xbox 360 was literally rattling and they still didn't open it up
@@jacobperez8921 you would think so, but watch it only boost their popularity due to exposure 🤦🏼♂️
11:44 Funny enough those void stickers are actually illegal in the United States under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, so even if they did enforce that, you can probably fight them over it, assuming you didn't break it when opening.
Edit: I am aware that the sticker itself is not illegal, but many companies do void the warranty if the sticker is tampered with, which is illegal according to the FTC.
And also, please do not take this as law advice BTW, as I'm not a lawyer.
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What I find interesting is that several of the consoles in these unboxing videos had the residue of a previous DKOldies seal peaking out from the current seal including this Dreamcast . This leads me to believe that they were previously sold by DKO and were returned , most likely with a problem , and then checked/fixed and were resold . They must have a pretty high return rate which is understandable given the lack of actual refurbing going on there .
In an interview a previous employee stated their refurbished consoles are all previously returned "used" consoles that had since been repaired.
Austin's reactions when tearing down the PS3 was easily the same as Gordon Ramsey in Kitchen Nightmares when investigating restauranta
Man, I'd be freaking furious if I had received that PS3. That thing ain't worth more than $50 in that condition. It's honestly a miracle it still works as well as it does. I see why they have those warranty stickers on them, since opening them up voids their warranty and they don't have to do crap even in these types of events.
that's not true, that was made illegal a couple years ago. Warranty stickers mean nothing. Many people don't know that though.
@@wiltisdabest Most people don't do anything... because good fucking luck getting the company to budge on it. Yes, it is not legal... but you'd have to drag the company through court in order to cash in most the time. Which, would be exceedingly expensive. Way more expensive than your warranty's worth.
That's why nobody goes through with it. And trust me, companies will just make a BS reason why anyways.
@@Xyler94 It's worth pointing out it would be incredibly easy to get those stickers off without tearing them with a scalpel, save them and just reapply them once you've poked around inside. Most are barely hanging on to begin with. I guess you could see that as being dishonest but I think they lost the right to complain about dishonesty when they started charging triple what these are worth and don't even properly refurbish them.
@@Xyler94 that happens almost everywhere. Legislation is favourable to companies in any capitalistic system. Before you can put before judge a company what happened to you must be happened to many other people
I bought a "refurbished" gameboy from DKOldies. The funny thing is that this was the clear version so you could see into the console without opening it and it was clear that they left dirt inside and the only thing the actually did was replace the plastic screen protector
Did it work doe
@@AshVsEvilFred doesn’t matter if it works, they monetize, refurbish, clean consoles. I didn’t pay for dirty consoles with a new screen protector
@@AshVsEvilFred Was it refurbished "doe"
@@AshVsEvilFred They payed extra for a working console.
Refurbished consoles are honestly a scam anywhere
There is a huge difference between "pre-owned" and "refurbished". A truly refurbed item has been taken apart, cleaned, repaired, and tested, then certified that it works THE SAME AS NEW. The items generally have a decent warranty as well.
Your definition isn’t legal, is it? Without a legal definition, there is no real footing to say what these words mean in context.
Technically, there is no "LEGAL" standpoint definition for the word "Refurbished". Refurbished is a synonym for reconditioned in which is under the entitlement (or definition) of pre-owned. As Americans, since we use fancy words to make things sound better and appealing, there are expectation behind those words. In the end, DK Oldies are running a legal business and advertising correctly. Is it still overpriced and taking advantage of old school gamers, YES. Are they breaking any laws or scamming anyone, NO. You are getting what you paid for a working old console.
The last snes i bought was 10 dollars. The last gamecube was 20... Prices have gone insane.
Finally even bigger RUclipsrs are exposing these scammers. Good on Austin for doing this video.
😂😂😂 funny you mean business it's called supply and demand if you can find it cheap stfu and go get it stop batching about prices you can't afford or are not willing to pay bc guess what someone else will pay it 😂😂 every retro store does this shit no one is innocent and if you think some are your funny
TronicsFix also exposed them as well.
Got a PS3 at a pawn shop for $60 with an original controller. This is straight up highway robbery!
Yeah but the reason you're paying premium here is for the console being refurbished and cleaned, the PS3 you got could have dust bunnies and who knows what inside. Average joe doesn't know nor do they want to bother with cleaning up the console.
Edit because some people think I'm defending DKOldies somehow which I'm not, I was just trying to say the REASON DKO charges premium prices is because they claim they do refurbishment and cleaning which clearly they don't. But if they did all that then the premium prices would be ok.
@@BenjaminHari yeah but that wasn’t done to the PS3 on the video was it? So that point is null and void.
@@BenjaminHariyea but dk Oldies is charging $500 for ps3s and they don’t even touch the inside of it and barely even clean the outside and you get an off brand controller
@@BenjaminHari yeah but dkscammies aint doing nothing
@@kanggoo57 exactly, that's the whole point of the video and why they are a scam.
Should’ve ordered each one individually to different addresses because having a batch order alerts them to be more cautious since they’ll suspect it’s a content creator’s order
Well they clearly weren't cautious here so I would hate to see what a normal order would look like.
If this is what they do for a suspected content creator then half their consoles must not work.
If this is DKOldies working with caution then I hate to see the shit they throw at other people.... Clearly they weren't "alerted".
Exactly what I thought. Maybe not a content creator, but they definitely would be more "careful" if one guy buys like 10 consoles for himself from them.
It's a scam in the sense they used to sell stuff at decent prices like Goodwill back in the day, but then raised their price to be the same as Ebay or anywhere else. Pointless to buy from, takes longer and I think there was shipping last time I ordered.
Dkoldies seems like the one game store guy at your local flee market who buys all the good stuff from other vendors and then tries to sell it for online prices as long as it works
Ohio vendors be like
Scalpers in a *nutshell*
@@hemmed32 man shut up
Reminds me of the people who go to yardsales and take advantage of homeowners' lack of knowledge of what their goods are actually worth and resale them online 3x the amount.
@@donlalo2002 That's just good business. It's their fault if they don't know the value of what they're selling
Hey Austin, make sure to play that Dreamcast for longer than just a few minutes. It's a common issue with older Dreamcasts where the solder on the power port will become brittle enough that once it heats the system will reboot, cooling the solder just enough for it to boot back up almost immediately. It looks like a software reboot, but it's a full power circle due to bad solder.
Now you have me worried, I have played my Dreamcast for hours on end (finished sa1 in one sitting due to lack of vmu). It terribly heats up but I never had this problem before. I bought it used.
Update: days later my disk drive stopped working properly. I've owned this for almost 6 years and it spent the last six months in a box and has somehow become yellow.
@@rishavganguly92 it is sad the plastics have a self life of 15 years and they yellow quickly, especially under UV lights and sunlight.
Not to mention the lasers that are on their way out that will play Crazy Taxi but other games have textures disappearing and stuff lol.
@the Game, Review and Reallife Channel becuz it does not work.
Man, this is why I'm very grateful that I've been able to keep all of my older consoles and didn't need to trade them to when I moved on to the next generation.
I tend to take really good care of my consoles and at least twice a year I'll open it up and clean the inside, fans, etc...
Luckily my consoles going back to the Xbox 360, PS3, and even my PS2 are still in good condition.
These Retro games prices are pretty outrageous.
I never trade my consoles, I just wait a few years until I have the money to buy the next gen
Sameee.
I'm sad cuz my dad made me give my ps1 to my cousin who destroyed it by the time we went back to his house already. A former friend stole my DS and pokemon game in it. My ps2 fell like 20 yrs ago and only reads ps1 games and my mom forced me to trade in my 360. I wanna buy a ds but I haven't seen any anywhere near as pristine as I keep my shit for sale. My gameboy advance sp doesn't even have scratches, and I got it in 2003 or 2004 whenever it launched
@@Rspsand07hat's sad
I only sold my old stuff so I could buy the new stuff coming out, later i knew that what i was doing was a mistake since when i sold my ps3 to buy a ps4 i had to give up the ps3 for 100 bucks and still give 300 more
Then the same game shop was selling my ps3 for 200 bucks
Only consoles I care about LOOKING good is handhelds. So honestly the Xbox and PlayStations were overcharged just for that tbh.
Well done totally agreed! They don’t actually refurbish a single thing or even clean it like they claim. They are literally lying to customers!
9:30 Fun fact about the GameCube is Nintendo built them with Japan and USA region selection from the factory. Ifixit has a tutorial where you can install a switch to flip the regions between Japan and USA.
That's really cool actually.
@Lurch I wasn’t aware! Thanks for the info
Fun fact about the gamecube is Japan and USA are the same region and japanese gamecubes play US games just fine with no mods. Dkoldies did not install shit.
I didn't know about this. That's pretty dope. I miss my purple GameCube now 😅
This is why I’m fine with buying 50$ older used consoles from pawnshops or local game stores. I have everything needed to actually refurbish it myself and they usually have a 30-60 day return window incase i find a problem i can’t fix.
Getting them all ordered at once would be a signal to me that the buyer isn't just some random person
DKOldies is a scam company plain and simple. The fact they decided to sell you a PS3 that is rusted....speaks for itself.
DK Oldies can’t cover up their scamming ways now. Jacob R, ReviewtechUSA, Penguinz0, and now Austin Evans. If these guys can’t get DKOldies to stop lying and to start being honest, then I don’t know who can.
Also Someordinarygamers as well
Maybe the courts when they get sued for fraud.
Average buyers by not buying this shit
Imagine major news outlets talking about Dk oldies scummy tactics
Don't forget TronicsFix
Ooooh, so this is why I stopped seeing their shorts spammed everywhere, lol
Also, yes, those prices are not just overpriced, they are straight out of this world....
I blocked them on RUclips and tiktok and they’re still coming up
I was highly considering ordering from them six months ago and then I kept seeing videos of them but now this officially does it for me I’m not doing business with them. Thank you, Austin.
Stay away… you can find better deals nearly anywhere else if you search.
"its been opened up in the past"
If a console has been actually refurbished, its been opened up before. That isnt too weird.
I can almost guarantee that 360 was returned early in its life cycle to Microsoft to be fixed, i had my first gen 360 for only a few weeks before it started having disc read errors and had to be shipped back to them. I was lucky and never got the red rings but they tried charging me another $100 for the repair claiming it was out of warranty, it did however come back with the updated cooling design...
Yea me too hell I had a PS5 that went up I’m smoke when they first came out sent it back to Sony took them like 5 months to give it back I almost bought another one
@@brendonwallace6640 Damn man thats crazy, at least MS returned mine in a week after i had to argue with them about the warranty.
Hello, Austin. I work for DKOldies and we've made some policy changes. We will now be fully cleaning the interiors of our consoles, and the good news is it'll only add 500.00 to the cost of each console for our customers! You'll still be able to purchase our "Refurbished" consoles at their regular price, but if you select "Actually Refurbished" you'll get one thats been done correctly for a small 500.00 fee! Thanks for your input!
😅🤣😂
Dude…seriously 😂😂😂
This is the biggest load of bs I have ever heard
This is something they would actually do to be honest LOL
Time to have an employee breakdown, clean, reapply thermal paste to a console, 2 hours. At 15$/hr and supply cost, $40 total operating cost.
Markup $100+
Nice to have a high profile RUclipsr like you expose them for all their crap. Hopefully they will see a dip in their sales and actually do something to fix it.
I think most people prefer Dkoldies gone forever
@@fjrqjadlrns Exactly. You cant fix stupid, and for sure can't fix a scammer
Lol they wont see a dip in their sales if everyone keeps buying from them just to review how shitty they did lmao this video is a classic example. He paid 1000$+ for those console and all the ones he did open up were not clean.
@@shaggy1hp200 I’d be getting a full refund 🤷♂️
@@ohigedid91xbox9 publicity is publicity. But yeah you right
Refurbished sellers consider wiping down the outside shell as "good enough"
DK Oldies definition of "Refurbished" is: We just throw it in a box and mail to you for an increased price
I’m so glad bigger RUclipsrs like Evan is getting into this because it needs to be shown and make customers that are getting false advertised items they are being scammed by this money hungry company
I didn’t even know who DK oldies was until about a week ago, and I can say they are the reason I have never once bought a single refurbished or used item, because I know companies will just absolutely rip you off and get away with it. Rather just buy one at a garage sale
not everyone's like them I ordered a refurbished gpu off amazon, amazon will test it themselves and if it doesn't function like its brand new they wont allow it to be sold.
I once got a refurbished Wii U from Ebay & I still have that Wii U, it's in great shape & is working perfectly!
So you have NEVER bought anything refurbished because of a company you heard of a week ago? The math dont be mathing.
You'd probably get a good quality product if you bought from a trusted and good company. The issue is that DKoldies is not one of those companies.
@@legoyoda9782 my cousin bought a PS4 Refurbished from GameStop, the top was scratched to hell, I had to add thermal paste for him since it came with literally none, and the fan was caked in dust.
My girlfriend bought a refurbished monitor from Amazon, the backlights in it were bad. The screen word turn on but it was so dim you couldn’t see. Had to replace those too.
I rather just pay the few extra bucks and get new. Companies “refurbished” is slang for “might work” and I don’t like gambling
call me a buzzkill, but its so much more practical and not to mention free to emulate. You get saves wherever in game you want as well as multiple save files, the best part is you dont need high end hardware for most previous gen or older console emulation
Not to say i want the old school market to die, but it is over glamorized and the people who are doing it for nostalgia purpose are being mislead
But sometimes the game was made for a certain controller, only looks good on a CRT and emulators can also have a problem with input lag.
Nothing wrong with emulation but there's certain things your missing.
Missed chance when not tearing down the GC. I'm interested if it has a modchip or if it has the shell swapped.
So much this. I'm betting it was a shell swap. Probably got an as is to try to mod it and swapped the shell
It's just a jumper on the ic it's a 3 minute fix
Its a jpn console with a region mod edit jumping R5 on the mainboard.
Google: "jpn to us gamecube"
Used to work for GameStop. All refurbished means by their standard is that the console turns on and reads disks if it previously did not.
That's the standard for most places. It turned on.
Honestly disgraceful, especially when they (DKOldies and probably GameStop) demonstrate their ability to actually restore consoles properly, but no, gotta make them profit margins with as little effort as possible
Refurbished, Repaired, Used. Now if it said restored..... then it should look clean and new.
@@Joosher56 hi breadbug
@Chuck Buskee it is because they actually think items delivered by mail in a package mean it is new im their tiny minds.
The problem with the ps3 is that instead of trying to clean it properly, they used the magic eraser thing, absolutely destroying the gloss finish, which probably already looked scuffed to hell
I just wanna know why almost all their PS3 consoles look similar once you start to disassemble them. If they were truly refurbished, we shouldn't be greeted by dust.
Wanted to get some insight on DKolldies as a collector. Tried to watch this video, but the over dramatic screams, stupid noises and gestures had me move on to another video. RUclips is flooded with these dorks.
If i paid 280 bucks for some piece of shit that was supposed to be refurbished i would also get squeamish, either you’re a masochist and like getting scammed or extremely stupid.
Haven’t seen Austin walked away speechless before 😂. It is like its better buy from an individual sell person than from DKoldies
For how much he paid for that ps3 I would've done the same 😂😂 Basically water damaged at that point lol
I like how it started off fine and went disgustingly downhill from there. Thanks for doing this video Austin. DKOldies has now officially been reviewed on all of my sub channels and it's been consistently bad.
Lol the whole DKOldies situation in general started off fine and went disgustingly downhill. At first it was "wow these guys overprice their consoles by a lot, but they're not a scam," and now it's "wow, these guys are charging premium prices and are blatantly lying about refurbishing anything."
A former employee said in a video at reviewtechusa that if Dkoldies recognizes that an order is going to be on a famous yt channel or is a large enough purchase, they give preferential treatment to the console they ship. They clean the outside as much as they possibly can. Austin’s order is not going to be like most other smaller console purchases
Idk what you mean because Austin's order had plenty negative to mention that culminates in an absolutely disgusting Playstation. Austin's order seems to be plenty like other orders.
Probably why they ordered it under a different name
@MrMcFeely this could easily be the better batch. A large order of every console after they got called out is always suspicious.
@@CookieByNature i missed that part, dkoldies does give preferential treatment to large orders so that the same customer can buy more large orders from them in the future.
@@Mr_Mcfeely remember Autrin never used his name. Someone else used their name. So DK Oldies probably didn't even have a clue it was even for Austin. That's why DK Oldies didn't give him special treatment.
Also notice the fact that even for THAT price they never give you a genuine controller with any console. I think (this is just a speculation) but I think they do this so they can also sell the original controller for extra money. So not only do they make a lot of profit on the console. They also resell the genuine controller for extra money
seeing the xbox 360 and ps3 being sold as authentic classic consoles makes me feel old, i grew up on those.
I’m kind of glad to have seen this, I had always assumed that DK Oldies mostly got hate for their prices, but until they get this fixed, I don’t know if I can purchase from them.
never purchase from them for all the videos that have been shown for how horrible condition they've looked and the lies you have to be an idiot on not paying attention to it
Even if they somehow manage to get their stuff together, I'll forever refuse to buy from them, these prices are outrageous.
@@ShaOryDow i'm in canada and even when it auto adjusts to CAD prices they are outrageous the fan favourite snes pack for example goes for 370 and it would be 60$ more if you add 2 original controllers where i went to a mom and pop store payed 150$ for one with a controller and all OEM cords even a ps1 goes for 180 where i can get one for 60$ at most
They basically use sandpaper to clean the outside of the consoles, so that's a big issue as well lol
Just buy second hand from someone. Seriously. I've got 30+ consoles, all acquired for roughly 30-40 bucks at most (with exceptions, some even cheaper, and only a few a bit more expensive).
All I had to do was do a teardown myself and clean it up on the inside. There's hundreds of videos online on how to do that.
You also always get extra stuff with it like controllers, sometimes even games.
It's just not worth it buying from them, even if they were cheaper and actually refurbished the consoles.
Man now Austin is in on this. Reviewtechusa will be happy 👍👍
Indeed he will be!
ReviwtechUSA is never 'happy' 😂
You know what’s even worse knowing it’s a scam? Giving them money anyways to find out.
Back WAY before this drama was occurring (around May of 2022), I was planning on buying a Nintendo 2DS from them as my little sister accidentally dropped my old one down two flights of stairs in 2020, and I really wanted to get a new one. I saw some of their videos on shorts and looked on their website to see that they actually did have a few. Only drawback was the price which was almost $200.00!!!! I did have enough money though and my mom was fine with buying it, but something told us that we shouldn't get it from there. That was an amazing decision we made because we later bought from a Walmart seller for only 90 bucks and had excellent condition. That was probably a good decision we made.
So just a year ago...? That's not waaay back lol, and this drama has been going on for longer than that
i just went to walmart in-person, and got one for $80
i have NO CLUE how ANYONE thinks a 2DS could sell for $200
you are a liar
I bought a nintendo switch from them and it can only down load one game at a time but het this i bought one from nintendo direct and its mid aswell who knew
@@Ave_Satana666 That would have nothing to do with the seller, that's how the Switch works?
When DkOldies first started making videos, I remember telling people that shit was over priced and I bet all he did was use air duster and packaged it. You could just tell by his “packaging” videos, the way he would just toss the stuff around that he doesn’t give a shit.
That’s my thing, they THROW everything………
It's not just a problem, it is literally fraud. This is why I never buy refurbished. Either buy it second hand in good condition or learn to refurbish it yourself. Not only does it work out cheaper the majority of the time, it's actually very rewarding learning a new skill like this.
I agree, I was debating about buying a second hand refurbished console, but I recently decided to just buy parts and building it up my self
Seems like a really pointless website. Regardless of the condition, stuff like 360s and PS3s are not worth the prices they're setting them at even at the best of times. These are neither new modern systems OR retro systems. They're not PS5s and they not something like a PC Engine. They're in the middle ground, the place the PS2 was at a few years ago. You should be getting these for like fifty bucks at the high end.
SO GLAD they are finally being exposed. Their prices have been outrages for so long, but the quality they are in is ridiculous. Along with the shorts they upload to cover there face is so wrong. Couldn't be happier with their downfall tbh
Outrageous*
@@CxDOGxLEM lol thanks
I'd happily pay a bit over the odds for a professionally restored console. I've taken a few consoles apart to clean in the past, and casemodded an xbox 360 and that's a pain in the arse as it is, so the idea of someone fully reconditioning and assessing a console is nice. What DKO do is so scummy.
It's always Tik Tok that causes trouble
Damn I used to watch their yt shorts, I didn't knew they were this greedy
DK oldies trauma is heading to all these big name channels. That’s how you know things are serious.
Yeah dude, it’s not gonna be long until DK is run down
The outside of the consoles as well aren’t always taken good care of either by DKOldies. As others have pointed out, using magic erasers as you see in the refurbish vid will actually cause abrasions on the surface of your console, making that Wii loose it’s glossy coat and be left with a scuffed mess. There’s other outside cosmetic horror shows on RUclips as well. So inside and out, you’re getting a bad deal from them. Glad you added another case against them, Austin!
The magic eraser part of their video gave me anxiety. Magic Erasers are basically sandpaper, they're SO abrasive. I'd be willing to bet that's why the finish on the PS3 in this video looks so bad. Its already easily scratched and they clean things with a magic eraser 😭
$240 for a disgusting console? Wow…they should be shut down
They weren't even that much new back when they came out!
I honestly thought the DKOldies stuff was just due to the pricing but that PS3 teardown was an eye opener for me...Thank you Austin for this video
Have you seen the PS3 Jacob R got from them?
@@YesImUrFather Could you please give us an spoiler? Xd
@STV lets just say Austin's ps3 is tame compare to Jacob's ps3
Computer Exchange here in the UK, also known as CeX, are a second hand tech store who offer a 2-year warranty, so it is something that does happen, albeit rarely, and they (mostly, as I've had moments with them over the years) are pretty damn good with said warranty as well. Just wanted to throw that in there as it's kind of a rare thing, even in the UK.
I actually worked at CeX for a year up until end of November 2022. I was the main tester so if you wanted to sell any hardware it goes to me for test. I have a very strict process because I repair stuff myself (not plugging but I make videos on my channel) and I know how miserable it is buying a "refurbished" console that is basically miserable on the inside. I worked with too many consoles at CeX to know what is classified as "good" and "unacceptable". One time there was a fucking OG PS4 with dust so bad you couldn't even see the holes where the vents should be, dust was brown and green, stayed on for 10 minutes then shut off. It was extremely loud too. Had consoles with warranty stickers removed and that was a hard no. Got consoles where it was very clearly tampered with and I always said no to my managers even if they were in good Nick and fully working.
As a repair tech the standards people need to have in order to maintain customers is a big responsibility, and I know how fucked up it is when people come back saying their consoles don't work, we had a few Xbox Ones and PS4s with that issue. Luckily most of them were just OS corruption I could fix in 10 minutes (even though my manager never allowed us to) but I went the extra mile to make sure my customers were satisfied using my knowledge and skills. And for DKOldies, that to me, for charging such a high price and having such a bad standard is merely unacceptable. Like Austin said, for 200 dollars you could get yourself a GameBoy Advance that's fully kitted out with good quality internals. That to me (if I wanted to spend that much) would be a better option rather than refurbished ones having bone dry internals from like 30 years ago.
Fuck me. DKOldies, pattern up man.
I've bought numerous consoles and games from CeX over the years.. and can never fault them. Everything I bought, especially my Wii, for £45, mint condition, and included all the accessories was the best thing they offered.
I have only 1 issue with CeX. About 4-5 years ago, I bought a Silver Fat PS2 with a controller for £27. Those were the days, lol. My controller was broken. I had to get a new one, but besides that. That's the only issue I have had with them.
@@MrNuRetroPlays I bought 1 game once and the disc didn't read. Went back to return it and there was no fuss whatsoever.
Same in Australia CeX does a good job honouring and standing behind their products, I have bought stuff from them before and what do you know?… the thermal paste was new, and it was dusted out.
Granted they don’t do it for all, but at least they don’t call it refurbished.
For the items I have had issues with, no questions asked, they replace it.
17:04 Why does he got to sound like Linguini when he screamed after he was bitten by Remy?
I don't usually stay long for a video but you my guy I respect you💯🤞🏼
For the gamecube their region can be changed very easily if you just move one fuse up. If you crack it open you will probably see where the worm is done. It's better to use a switch though because you are already doing the soldering and it enables you to play from any region.
You don't need to do this for the Japanese gamecube. It plays US games right out of the box.
@@Notpoop906 it does?
@@Notpoop906 But the US Gamecube doesn’t play Japanese?
That can't be. You need to install a xeno mod chip for it to play both NTSC-U and NTSC-J games.
Based on the DKOldies sticker on the Dreamcast, it looks like it may have been returned. If so, they probably actually cleaned it this time and resold it.
Among the popular theories, one that I am supporting is that they took in more orders than they could fulfill using the advertised process, and started taking shortcuts to save face, then slowly sank into all shortcuts and still made the videos to rake in more profits!
if company's like Gamestop can somewhat refurbish systems so can they Dk oldies is nothing but a scam and to be called out by the biggest tech reviewer on the platform is something else hopefully they get the message probably not
To be fair the process they showed was checking to see if it worked, then taking it apart when it didn't. They never mentioned what they do if it works, which is apparently just clean off the exterior and ship it.
Definitely need to thank everyone that took the risk for us and I’m glad I researched before I bought anything from them I also nearly got scammed but didn’t purchase anything so saved myself the trouble 😭😂
It’s probably time to a class action lawsuit against them.
He's a slightly smaller channel than yours, but ReviewTechUSA (RTU) has been following this DKOldies controversy for months now. He even has interviews with former employees. Certainly worth checking out.
18:10 when dad is so disappointed with you and tells you to go wait for him at the table, those nervous moments you sit there alone
A $240 PS3 SLIM plus tax, is already insane, but in that condition should be a crime.
8:00 the grease makes sense cuz you have to grease the mechanical parts in the disk drive in order for the tray to come out smoothly on the 360. So with that said, you are always gonna have a little bit of residue left over. As for the dust, yeah there is no excuse for that.
8:20 The message in Morse code from the Xbox: "I'm gonna get red rings in a week"
BRUHHHHH
Would love a follow up to this showing us what the customer service experience is like when you try to get something like this fixed.
at this point I don't think they can do this because they technically voided the warranties by removing the stickers
@@bakedbeyondbelief321 Warranty stickers are illegal, bud.
That “Greese” was definitely not greese if the Xbox was EXTREMELY stinky 💀
Thanks for this video. I honestly got tired of getting videos from them that are made to promote older generation's nostalgia to younger folks, only to sell a trashier version of old gen's memories. You deserve better than these scams.
What’s even worse is that Austin didn’t even get a free keychain to go along with his order
The free gifts are usually when the buyer request to have it depends how high the price the person want to. Then it will get into video.
Austin, I hope you will consider a follow-up video down the line. Did they stand behind their warranty and how was their customer service regarding the subpar condition vs expectation? I've had very few issues with eBay, but a shop with proper support is appealing.
I mostly let people have their opionions about DKOldies, but this. This is not it.
The "love" that goes into the outside of the consoles is a magic eraser. Will a lite touch of it is fine for dull finishes, using them on a shiny finish will dull it and scratch it.
That refurbishing video by DK Oldies was made in response to the criticism from all the youtubers. DK knows what they doing and selling consoles to more casual gamers who usually don't investigate is how they make their money. Interviews from previous employees are showing that they are told not to clean systems even if they have open it up if something not working.
I guy locally told me a lot about these consoles. Many people have no idea how many on the market are never actually cleaned. GameStop was literally forced to actually refurbish these consoles once the word got out. The same goes for TVs & other electronics. The major failure is dust build up. Eventually the fans can't disperse the heat, & they start overheating which slowly kills the boards
Is that why EB Games over here in New Zealand actually started branding their consoles as refurbished not pre owned, cause GameStop was caught out and made to actually refurbish
Yeah all their prices are ridiculous… they list their Dreamcast as 160$ I bought one from my local retro game store for 80$, literally half the price
The thing that stands out about the DKOldies video about refurbishing is the fact that the Wii wasn't reading disk and they had to repair it. This makes you ask if it wasn't broken would they "refurbish" it? They didn't give an example of what they do with EVERY console, they had no choice but to fix that Wii.