Ski Instruction: Advanced Intermediate Skate Ski, Uphill, V2 & V2 Alternate Ep 24
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Blair continues with skate ski demonstration and tips. This video includes V2 Alternate, hill climbing with V1 and an introduction to V2.
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Hi! I am going to give you some unsolicited advice. It is not meant in any bad way, and you definitely do not have to listen. I am just a random guy on the internet. I have skated the Swedish Vasaloppet (90 km) sub 5 hours and I sometimes train together with World Cup swedish skiers (Even if those guys are miles better than me).
You seem to have very long poles. I myself had about 2 cm longer poles than what I should have had for quite a while. This makes it harder to collapse on the poles using your bodyweight. During longer or more intense sessions this will be harder on the upper traps and arms.
It will however be easier on the lower back to use longer poles, and it may take some time to get used to shorter ones. I would try a pair of shorter poles for a few sessions and see how it feels! (About 0,9 times your bodyheight)
My second pointer is that your poles seem to be far forward in the beginning of the pole push. This makes it hard to use your bodyweight in the poling and can be straining on the shoulders. I believe this is a consequence of the long poles.
On the whole, amazing job and and thank you for spreading the joy of skate skiing!
Thanks Vilger. I will look into that. I have low back issues for 35 years, and that was part of the thinking of going a bit longer. But your points are excellent.
Thanks very much!
If you are ever coming to Lake Tahoe area, let me know, and we can go for a ski!
Very helpful videos for my level of skiing. You're knowledgeable. Thank you. I still have the stock insoles in my skate, classic and combi boots. You state that you should have custom orthotics to better ride a flat ski.
Bruce, thank you for your questions and comments. It looks like Blair has answered your question. I hope it helps. Have fun skiing!
Im 58 years old with 20 years experience of skating. but not along time I have understood biomechanical structure of skiing. At first time I couldnt to understand the main point of skiing. Ihave been watching many hours of ski races on video. I tried to repeat so that i was watching. at final it have been happened. i AM very happy because I can skating just like professional skiers. Its a great emotion. The quantity turned to quality. MOreover I wont to stop my progress in skating technique. I wanna go on to do it better and faster
That is wonderful! Your passion is inspiring.
How clean and beautiful everything is! Not like in my Russia. Wherever you go, there are trash heaps. Today I went skiing in the forest. Bottles, bags of chips, someone pissed right on the ski track. Eh (
Thank you for watching. We are very blessed with beautiful trails. It is sad to hear that your trails are not clean.
Too OLD SCHOOL!!! Nobody skates so that now!!!c Thats TOO wide arms position, too far from shoulders.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Should I go to a pedorthist for custom orthotics for my ski boots? Do they need to be knowledgeable about cross country skiing?
I recommend Start Haus in Truckee. Or any Orthotist who has familiarity with skate skiing orthotics.
Thanks for answering, Blair.
Not great technique!😂
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. I could not tell are the videos on your channel made by you?
Where are you skiing ? Just wonderful-amazing conditions !!
Tahoe Donner in Truckee, California. They do a good job.
V1 and V2 alternate differences are hard to detect because both push off one side only. No one addresses this well
You make a good point. Thank you for the feedback. We can try to emphasize it better in future videos.
I had the same reflexion but I found a few videos where they explain that the differences reside in the timing and position of the body. Always low for instance in V1, while your body goes all the way up in V2 alternate. Also the width of the legs and the angle of the skis are different.
@@HarrisCaron Also the pole plant timing is different. In V1 the poles and ski your pushing off of, plant at the same time.. In V2 alternate you are already gliding on the ski before rising and planting and pushing off with the poles. Anyway that is what I now think.
@@HarrisCaron Thanks for your ideas. There are a myriad of differences between V1 and V2 Alternate. Look at Episode 14, and it shows the gears in order. Although V2 Alternate is usually the second gear taught, it is 2 gears higher in speed than V1. So in Episode 14, it is 2 gears later than V1. Especially watch the slow motion. In V1, we pole when the strong side ski hits the snow. So, our boots are somewhat apart when the ski hits, and moving farther apart quickly. In V2 and also the same for V2 Alternate, our poles rise up fairly high in front, then our boots comes together and almost touch, and then we push off hard right after the boots come together, and well before the new ski hits the snow again. Think of V2 from the right as pushing off when both boots have come together, and well before the left ski hits the snow. In V1, the poles hit the snow when the left ski hits. And, of course, you can do these on opposite sides, too. Good to learn one side fairly well first. Then practice on the opposite side, too. I am still stronger on V1 on the left as strong side (so both poles hit the snow with my left ski). When free skiing, I try to do maybe 20 on the right for every 30 on the left. Some would say I should do more on right than left, but this works for me.
Thanks for checking in, and happy skiing!
What a beautiful place to ski. Hope to visit sometime. Thanks for the tips.
We are certainly blessed. Hope you can make it here sometime and thank you for the comment.
Very thorough thanks for video
Thank you!
Why are you skiing with a fanny pack, seems you are sitting back a bit and not emphasing the up and down necessary for power and glide.
Thank you for watching and commenting. Do you have videos of your technique? If so we would love to see them. Good point on Fanny pack. I may not have the strength to do the technique you suggested. I may have failed to mention in this video, but I have in others that once a person becomes more advanced they would benefit from private lessons or a good ski clinic.
Какая прекрасная лыжная трасса!!!
Thank you! We feel very blessed to have such special terrain,
Very interesting video! I like to watch you in slow motion ski up steeper hills. I can see that you don't even bother landing on a flat ski so you can always push on your skis to maintain some constant glide. I guess gravity change every thing. the wider V on the steper part of the hill is I guess to reduce the slope grade to insure that the ski keep gliding? I like your coment about the importance of flexing as much as possible the ankles to stay leaned toward the hill! I found the skis glide better when the ankles are flexed and the knees forward! Amazing what we can see on those videos! Thank you! Good work!
Greetings Marc!
It is true that if the hill gets really steep, you won’t land any longer on a flat ski while using V1 technique. And the V gets wider as the hill gets steeper, too. I also flex forward even more from the ankles as the hill gets steeper. Another trick is to speed up the cadence if really steep and shorten all aspects of the V1 cycle, until it gets less steep again. Then when less steep, you might even add a few easier V2 cycles, to change up slightly how muscles are used, and thereby get a break. The faster V1 cadence is also great when you near the top of a hill, because a break is coming soon.
One last tip. If the hill is really steep, at some point forward ankle flexion will finally actually slow the skis by pushing the tips into the hill too much. So then you need to move slightly back a bit in your stance. Still forward, but less so.
You have to “play” with all of this as you get better, trying to fine tune all of these different elements, and find what works best for you. We don’t have the VO2 Max of elite racers, so we have to find the right place for us and our bodies, within the continuum.
Good luck and happy skiing! If you are coming to Tahoe Donner some time, let me know, and we can go out for a ski!
Thanks for your comment. I see Blair had replied.
I am working on the timing of bringing my arms forward after watching this video.
Getting the arms right helps with timing, which gives more time on a flat ski.
Does anything change with the new genS skis that have side cut and curve themselves in slightly instead of out like your demo?
Oh, yeah. They curve inward a bit and they glide almost straight down the line during your push-off during e.g. V2A or free skate. I'd practice that at the beginning doing free skate on an even or slight downhill trail, and you can get really dynamic push-offs because of that. Not everyone's cup of tea tho'. Also very safe on curvy downhill sections 🤩
Thanks for weighing in. I haven’t had a chance to research.
Straszna technika, przenosisz ciężar ciała na pięty. Nie wygląda to dobrze
Thanks for the comment. I am showing people technique that is more “learnable” in their progression as skiers. I have mentioned that racing technique is more forward on the skis. And that if they become an expert skier, they will likely want to explore racing technique, which now has a variety of differences. Hopefully that makes sense.
Thank you for your observation. I see Blair has answered. We hope you enjoy your skiing.
Nicely done, Please keep it up!
Thank you!