I'm starting to get a flood of comments about how we "faked" our T-gewehr ammo because of claims that it will break your arm. The 13.2 TuF is roughly equivalent to .50 BMG in perceived recoil. The gun has 1" spikes on a solid bipod and is quite heavy. This means, used properly, the recoil is actually quite controllable. I have fired the gun once and Mae has put 5 rounds though one at original load data. It was bedded well into a pile of sandbags. The first shot gave her a nickel sized bruise, the rest likely contributed nothing as she adjusted her posture to better match the high center. I received no marks whatsoever as she had already warned me about how the setup recoiled and where to snug everything in. ruclips.net/video/_ovHGvT4f9k/видео.html If you're worried about a non properly emplaced T-gewehr, well, Ian and Michael both shot actual original ammo with just about the worst free stand I could imagine. While it gave them a jolt, no one broke any bones. ruclips.net/video/EzDfUKNwfGc/видео.html Recall, this gun is among the first anti-material rifles and so a LOT of myths built up quickly, especially because it was almost immediately put back out of service. As with any high recoil firearm I'm sure you could be hurt using it outright foolishly. But a trained rifleman, even unfamiliar with the recoil of this particular gun, shouldn't have a great deal of difficulty. Fatigue would probably kick in about 7 - 10 rounds in though in my estimation due to working the large bolt and the general shock of each shot on the nervous system.
@Darth Maul I find your excess faith disturbing. :-) I know for a fact the military think nothing of fielding packs that break spines and boots that break feet.
+Charles' Milsurp Firearms Can she hit a small opening on a moon-sized space station without a targeting computer? That's the question. That's only about as big as a womprat, mind you!
+neanderthor66 that is absolutely priceless :D, I need a girl who can enjoy shooting like she does!. thumbs up to Mae for even volunteering to shoot that monster of a rifle :D
I envision a young Mae, Othais, and crew explaining to their elementary school teachers that this is what they would be doing when they grew up. I can then imagine said teacher(s) regretting they ever asked. Keep up the good work.
I don't get why some weapons were banned in the wars. Yeah, they cause horrific damage, but that's war. Each side tries to make the best weapon. Sure, chemical warfare being banned is fine because it kills civilians. But why small arms? I mean the Germans complained about shotguns. It's like us Battlefield players complaining about the AEK cause it's OP as hell.
Karim boudraa I`m guessing its their fantasy world of "War isnt supposed to be like that, its supposed to be gentlemanly, fun for the upper class and profitable"
Karim, they banned many weapons in Germany after the war so that there was no industry to build that type of weapon, and no designers with experience to design new stuff, so that if a militant gov't took over Germany in the future it would take them years to build up an arms industry before they could mass produce enough to equip an army.
Great Job!.. The usual, excellent attention to detail that we've come to expect from C&Rsenal. Great history, context and practical application. Thanks very much.
+britishmuzzleloaders Still a huge compliment coming from you! Keep up the good content yourself. Also let us know if you have any personal favorite projects when they come up and we'll be happy to share them.
I'd like to thank the WW1 historian community for being so patient with all of us gamers snooping around after the release of Battlefield 1. We understand that Battlefield is only visually similar to the real Great War and bears little resemblance when it comes to combat and weapon selection. Bear with us! We may have stupid questions but we are learning!
It's nice the game is driving interest. I just wish they had tried to make use of more of these fantastic real weapons rather than shoehorning a bunch of oddities in.
C&Rsenal The DLC's are sure to introduce more common weapons, but I understand that they're trying to keep gameplay interesting. I'm not trying to say that something more authentic like Verdun isn't interesting, it's just that the Battlefield series is know for having a wide variety of experiences and they're trying to keep it from being restricted to bolt action rifles and trenches.
+Andy Yates Hahaha, I wonder how many people got that Simpsons reference. Man, it would be fun to shoot that rifle/bolt action howitzer. I would see pictures of it for years and think I would probably injure my shoulder or fall on my ass, but if that girl is firing it................
I've been a minor history buff for years. It was a real treat to see modern footage of one of these actually being fired. Othais, if you're inter3sted, German words look intimidating because they don't contract the words until they get used to using them but they stay much more consistent with pronunciation rules so once you learn theirs, you can pretty much pronounce anything. i.e. Flak started out as FLugzeugAbwehrKanone (aircraft defense cannon) until it became common use and was shortened. The u is pronounced like mood, w have a v sound (always), eu makes an oy sound and the e at the end makes a Schwa sound so it's pronounced like floog-zoyg ahb-vair kah-no-neh and the werk in Mauser were is pronounced vairk. Great series, kudos on an outstanding job.
Which crewman is responsible for winding up the tank before battle? - The patent for the tank shown at 2:08 is actually for a children's toy tank! Note the gears. I love it!
Yes Mae, you are my hero. The look of joy on your face after pulling the trigger of that behemoth is priceless. I was at a military weapons showcase years ago and had the chance to fire an English version of that gun (the Boys anti-tank) and chickened out. lol Once again as my wife says, "Dang that Mae ROCKS!"
+PartTimeJedi I try :). I actually just tried a Boys anti-tank rifle while we were in Kentucky and it was awesome! Weirdly enough, if I compare the bruises both left, the T-Gewehr's was slightly worse.
Mae bringing the adorable back, I just want to roll you up and keep you in my pocket: Mae"Ok, back to mister blahblahblathias" Oth"Well we wont torture Mae too much further" *Takes gun back* Mae"Awww!" *pouts* I've said this before and I'll probably say it again so long as I don't get run over by a steel elephant tomorrow, but you guys produce a quality product in these videos. The research you put in to making these really takes you above the average 'professional RUclips channel' To include not only the military history of the firearm, but also the lead up, social and economic history of the gun and the politics surrounding its development really shows that no gun is created in a vacuum. You can look at one gun and say why on earth did they make this particular feature this way, it's a terrible idea, but when you understand how it fits into the military thinking, matches inbetween other guns and how it was intended to function, those silly ideas become really important to it's success. Thank you to you three (is it three?) as well as everyone who helps you out with making these!
+EDSKaR Thanks man that means a lot. Core production team is 4: Mae, Othais, Suzie, Jay Support team is numerous and belligerent but regular advise and help come from Michael, Drake, and Alex right now. Although others have helped in big ways at specific times.
Guys, I can't thank you enough for this episode. Absolutely brilliant. Mae had the best face yet in a show. I also nearly spat my drink over my desk at the point of "now back to mr blar blar ... ". The show just gets better and better with each episode. Both of you are getting more and more natural with each one. More power too ya.
OMG I love this channel! I just discovered it and love it. It's so nice to see people genuinely having fun shooting these wonderful old gems. This is why we collect and THIS is why we shoot.
Can I say that CnRsenal is my favorite youtube gun channel because it gives concise, straightforward information of firearms, while not talking about the modern gun politics and the like; because the channels that do usually alienate me as a non-american.
+The Canuck Redcoat We definitely have private opinions on just about anything but including them here isn't right. If the history is so valuable it's beyond manipulating for short term goals and doing so will only make the show age poorly.
Fun fact, last night I feel asleep by vaping a bunch of D8 and listening to the first 15 minutes or so of this. There’s something special about media that you find interesting but can also fall asleep to without being kept up, very public television, but in a good way. Like, if this guy was in tv he’d be on PDS.
i shouted for joy when i saw that this was the episode. Mae also looked like she had way too much fun shooting. Also it was cool watching the rounds bounce off.
Watching Mae shoot that was the best part of the video, the sheer joy you could see was awesome to behold. Mega props to you Mae, I have shot a gen 1 grizzly .50bmg w/no brake or pad and it was a monster, I can't imagine shooting that behemoth. Glad you got the opportunity to enjoy it :D
Well if I ever get one Ill set you guys up. Also if you love the big stuff you aught to look into trying a 14.5x114mm russian anti tank rifle. They designed it because the .50 bmg wasn't getting the job done in their eyes. Truly an awesome thing to behold.
I did indeed come here from TGW channel, being able to see the old guns and even watching them fire, makes me wish there were gun ranges around here. I'd love to go fire some old rifles.
A very well produced piece folks, so little has been done on the Tank Gewehr 1918 most people have no idea about it, or its place in History. It's also good that the Rifle has been dropped from the Destructive Device classification, and is treated as any sporting rifle. (would love to add one to the collection.) Cheers and Thanks again !!
Very interesting! I am a cartridge collector and I have never heard of the 13.2x92mmR but I did some research on it and found out that the .55 Boys Anti Tank round was what replaced the 13.2x92mmR/ Luckily i have that round in my collection. Thanks for sharing!
I found your channel via this video on The Firearms Blog. Great work you guys are doing! It is obvious you take the time to research your topics, and the present them so very well. Hats off to you Othias, but I got to say.... Any gal who can fire a .52 cal anti-armor gun, and smile... fire that same rifle 5 times and laugh out loud.... That's my kind of woman! Mae, I would be proud to call you "Grand Daughter"!
This is the grandfather of all anti material guns like the Barrett .50cal. It reminds me of the soviet PTRD and the PTRS 14.5x114mm Anti-Tank Rifles in ww2.
You shouldn't compare it to a semi automatic rifle, especially to a Barrett platform (call it with the proper name, "M82/105 Barrett") But yeah, this lead to the designing of numerous anti tank cartridges and rifles
Thank you guys for making educational, in depth videos on these pieces of history, and for being so wholesome and fun about it. No fluff, no frills, just important facts, and a wonderful delivery method that makes you feel like you’re having a (albeit one sided) conversation.
The only part better than Mae's shit eating grin is the build up of her laugh. I couldn't believe how those rounds moved that target around, I cant imagine what the original harder steel core bullets would do. Great video as always.
A very warm Hello to you both, Othias and Mae, from New Zealand. I greatly enjoy your C&R Arsenal series, and the Great War Small Arms weapons series in particular; it being that my paternal Grandfather was a veteran of the 3rd (and later, 4th) Battle of Passchendaelle, Oct. 4th, 1917. Grandfather died before I was born, but my Dad tells me his father did once have brief possession of a Tankgewehr, which was quickly taken from him by a CO. Thus it is, that I have had a life-long interest in what is, at base, a very simple weapon. In NZ I have seen 3 Tankgewehrs in museums, those being Auckland, Wellington, and the Army Museum at Waiouru. None have I had the opportunity to handle. Seeing yourself and Mae handle the weapon, discuss it, and shoot it is a memory I shall treasure as long as I live. I got to see what grandfather told my father about, and see it 'in action'. So, Othias and Mae: Thank You Both, from a very grateful Kiwi. Kind and Respectful Regards Othias and Mae, Uyraell, New Zealand.
I never got around to thanking you for this series, and this episode in particular. I had a school project on the development of new weapons in World War I, and this served as both a great resource for the T-Gewehr, and some good starting points for tank research.
Now THIS is an assault weapon (if has a pistol grip, after all - hehehe).Mae, you're a rock star!!! Four shots and you're still standing. Oh and the 'Back to blah, blah, blah, Othais' comment - priceless! The real question though - can this be modified to fire .32ACP?
+Girls Like Guns, Too (Jennifer Young) Lol, thanks! Why modify it? Just unseat the bullet and fill the inside of the cartridge with .32ACP. It'll be fine....
Someone may have already pointed this out, but there seems to be a minor typo on the Mark I tank slide: the "male" versions lists all machines guns, instead of the two 6 pounders. Around tinestamp 3:35
They have one on display here in the UK at Bovington Tank Museum....where I saw it and thought "what a bloody enormous rifle". Thanks for taking the time to put this together, and please let whoever lent you the rifle know that his generosity is appreciated.
Never heard of this channel before. Stopped half way through the video to subscribe. I don't know how you found all this awesome information, but I'm glad you did and it's been incredibly interesting thus far. Really looking forward to watching your other videos.
C&Rsenal I'm kidding, I really enjoyed it the whole way through. Thanks for all the info, I'm sure digging up info on all these weapons, battles, and the men who fought in them was laborious, but from a consumer standpoint, I really enjoyed everything. Thanks again!
Can you imagine the scope bite on that thing if you didnt have a long eye-relief optic? This video is a masterclass of firearms review, thanks for your time and effort as always. Wait a minute, did Mae just say "girth"? ;-j
I swear I heard Mae's thoughts as that cannon was about to go off. Mae's thoughts pre-first shot: "OH GOD OH @^#% THIS THING IS GOING TO KILL ME! WHY DID I SIGN UP FOR THIS INSANITY?!? GOODBYE SHOULDER AND COLLARBONE...." Mae's thoughts post-first shot: *KABOOM* "... I'm still alive? My limbs are still attached? I'M STILL ALIVE!!!! HAHAHAHA MORE AMMUNITION! I AM MAE! DESTROYER OF WORLDS!!!"
In Otto Carius's book Tigers in the Mud he talked about the Soviet anti tank rifles, likely a lot were of the type mentioned that was a clone with a few upgrades. They couldn't penetrate into the crew compartment of a Tiger but they could sure make life miserable for a Tiger. Shooting out tracks, gas tanks, optics etc. Leaving the Tiger also very vulnerable to something heavier coming around to attack a blinded and immobile Tiger, and if the crew tried to escape it meant facing machine guns, rifles and artillery.
A small bruise? I am a bit surprised. I know the standing position helped and Mae only got to shoot 4 rounds...but that slow motion footage of the recoil made me think her smile was more of a forced grimace. Well done you two.
At 24:53 same thing happened to the early American tanks in WW2 which were of riveted construction. Any good hit would cause the rivets to act as bullets inside the fighting compartiment.
I came over from the great war, you guys have a great show with a lot of information. I like the large formula because I like hearing the history about the guns and it did help me better understand the great war. Thanks for a great show and keep up the good work
well it's below 20 mm so technically it's rifle (it's generally assumed that cannons start at 20 mm but there's no universal standard) so it would technically be a small arm even though there's nothing small about that monster.
This was pretty rad guys, great job! Thanks for posting it at 1:30, right when I was about to go to bed...stayed up the extra 38 minutes to watch it. Worth it though ;)
Want to point out you also need to consider that not all steel is created equal, not just the ammo. I'm not very familiar with WW1 era tanks, but, the original tanks may have had through-hardened steel which would spall more easily, or soft steel which would be penetrated more easily. Plus lots of rivets which, if hit hard enough, break off and become a projectile inside the tank.
Othias. Your comment about period telescopic sights brought back a memory. American manufacturers used Black Widow Spider silk for many rears. What other nations used for crosshairs is unknown to me. It really would not take many wallops from that cartridge before the silk broke,even if shellacked on to glass. We all tend to forget life before various synthetic materials showed up. Wonder how well a solid bronze bullet would do. There sure are a lot of detail differences in just 100years.
Alexander Vicca So small it's taller than anyone using it! Also, I don't think if it has a bipod and still kicks more than rifles usually considered high-powered, then it's quite "small".
+Micah Philson Remember, this is small compared to everything else in an army. Anything under 20mm is a small arm. Big guns are 105mm artillery pieces which I think are a hair bigger than this gun.
Gannon Woods I wouldn't consider 105mm cannons "arms" either, since those are typically used to refer to things you can actually carry. And they don't call artillery "large arms".
Correct, but you missed the point. This small arm is still small relative to everything else the military is dealing with. Anything under 20mm is still considered a small arm
Just found your channel, excellent! I'm 73 and was a Combat Infantry Sgt. in Vietnam. Being Mechanized I really know what a 50 BMG round can do, like going through 18" of dirt and killing those at the bottom of a spider hole. Now this bad boy I would really like to try. Mae, you remind me of my passed Lady that's a ++++++ 11Bravo
+C&Rsenal Most welcome, please continue to make them. I like the historical information, the practical engineering and the format. All around a well done quality show.
+Mae Guns Give that lady a cannon, ladies love cannons! lol You need to try a 20mm anti-tank rifle, or if you like the raw awesomeness of omg power try a Russian 14.5x114mm rifle. Makes a .50 bmg feel tiny. A ptrs-41 or ptrd-41 will do the trick, both were developed from and inspired by the t-gewehr.
I noticed neither of you tried to shoot it from the prone. 😆 that much recoil would make battlefield shooting absolutely horrible. Sweet review. Love the videos.
I'm starting to get a flood of comments about how we "faked" our T-gewehr ammo because of claims that it will break your arm.
The 13.2 TuF is roughly equivalent to .50 BMG in perceived recoil. The gun has 1" spikes on a solid bipod and is quite heavy. This means, used properly, the recoil is actually quite controllable. I have fired the gun once and Mae has put 5 rounds though one at original load data. It was bedded well into a pile of sandbags. The first shot gave her a nickel sized bruise, the rest likely contributed nothing as she adjusted her posture to better match the high center. I received no marks whatsoever as she had already warned me about how the setup recoiled and where to snug everything in.
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If you're worried about a non properly emplaced T-gewehr, well, Ian and Michael both shot actual original ammo with just about the worst free stand I could imagine. While it gave them a jolt, no one broke any bones.
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Recall, this gun is among the first anti-material rifles and so a LOT of myths built up quickly, especially because it was almost immediately put back out of service. As with any high recoil firearm I'm sure you could be hurt using it outright foolishly. But a trained rifleman, even unfamiliar with the recoil of this particular gun, shouldn't have a great deal of difficulty. Fatigue would probably kick in about 7 - 10 rounds in though in my estimation due to working the large bolt and the general shock of each shot on the nervous system.
The alternative hypothesis is that Mae is secretly a robot full of shock absorbers and recoil dampeners.
C&Rsenal Needs Anti Tank Bayonet
MAE = Military Android Experimental.
have you considered doing other AT rifles like the Solothurn?
@Darth Maul I find your excess faith disturbing. :-) I know for a fact the military think nothing of fielding packs that break spines and boots that break feet.
What? No bayonet lug?
+rajvader How would you swing it?
+C&Rsenal Very carefully.
+rajvader Given how hefty it is, an axe blade or hammer head attachment might be more appropriate.
+rajvader the japanese totally wouldve put a bayonet lug on it.
+rajvader Wasn't enough medieval long swords to mount on the end of this thing to keep it in proportion.
If you run out of ammo, you can always use the bolt as a club
Tofa even
C&Rsenal i thought you said tofu for a second
Tonfa?
Tofa = piece of Thor???
Time of Flight and Absorbance???
Could Mae hit a small thermal exhaust port on a tank without the aid of a targeting computer? That is the real question.
+Charles' Milsurp Firearms Can she hit a small opening on a moon-sized space station without a targeting computer? That's the question.
That's only about as big as a womprat, mind you!
+Micah Philson Use the Schwartz.........I mean the Force!
I always thought Mae was Force Sensitive...
Yes.
Yes.
Mae's post-shooting giggle made the video.
+neanderthor66 that is absolutely priceless :D, I need a girl who can enjoy shooting like she does!. thumbs up to Mae for even volunteering to shoot that monster of a rifle :D
+Aussie50 Are you kidding? There is no way I would ever pass up the opportunity to shoot this bad boy!
+Mae Guns The "aww" of disappointment when Othias took it out of your hands at the end of the vid said it all. That had to have been a ton of fun.
+Mae Guns hats off to you madam.
+neanderthor66 Mae is great! I wish I could find someone like her!
that's not a rifle...that's a fucking canon with a handle
i wonder if theres a full automatic variant with folding stock? lol
Brad_0 aww guess ill have to settle for duel weilding them off the hip. hahaha
You should see the Russian PTRS
forrestgumball got a link mate?
forrestgumball or a Lahti l-39... 40,000 lb ft, 110 pounds and 7.4 feet long
Mae's reactions were priceless.
+William Prince Her smile said it all. :)
And that giggle at the end!
I envision a young Mae, Othais, and crew explaining to their elementary school teachers that this is what they would be doing when they grew up. I can then imagine said teacher(s) regretting they ever asked. Keep up the good work.
+Mr. Mzr I was one of the "huggy" children. The kind I now avoid.
In case anyone is wondering what is written on the tank at 26:34:
(German)
"Up to here and no further" + "Shock troop 122"
+Ufthak1 Oh neat.
"We banned the rifle germany, you cannot have it" followed by "Now every country on earth developed their own"
Versailles treaty in a nutshell
And people ask why germany was pissed off at the Versailles treaty and ended up ignoring it in the Hitler years.
I don't get why some weapons were banned in the wars. Yeah, they cause horrific damage, but that's war. Each side tries to make the best weapon. Sure, chemical warfare being banned is fine because it kills civilians. But why small arms? I mean the Germans complained about shotguns. It's like us Battlefield players complaining about the AEK cause it's OP as hell.
Karim boudraa I`m guessing its their fantasy world of "War isnt supposed to be like that, its supposed to be gentlemanly, fun for the upper class and profitable"
Karim, they banned many weapons in Germany after the war so that there was no industry to build that type of weapon, and no designers with experience to design new stuff, so that if a militant gov't took over Germany in the future it would take them years to build up an arms industry before they could mass produce enough to equip an army.
"small arms"
+wdfghjkl same thoughts xD
+wdfghjkl Still nor ordinance
"rifle", cuz let's be honest that's a small cannon
+Matt Dickson Eh, not quite.
It's very close, though.
+Mingwei Zhang it's what 6.5mm below the generally agreed upon cut-off for cannon designation?
The firing pin is bigger than some spike bayonets!
That's what i thought last time I took a shower.
Great video, the look on Mae's face when she shot the rifle and later nearly took out the wall behind her was priceless
Great Job!.. The usual, excellent attention to detail that we've come to expect from C&Rsenal. Great history, context and practical application. Thanks very much.
+britishmuzzleloaders Still a huge compliment coming from you! Keep up the good content yourself. Also let us know if you have any personal favorite projects when they come up and we'll be happy to share them.
I'd like to thank the WW1 historian community for being so patient with all of us gamers snooping around after the release of Battlefield 1. We understand that Battlefield is only visually similar to the real Great War and bears little resemblance when it comes to combat and weapon selection. Bear with us! We may have stupid questions but we are learning!
It's nice the game is driving interest. I just wish they had tried to make use of more of these fantastic real weapons rather than shoehorning a bunch of oddities in.
C&Rsenal The DLC's are sure to introduce more common weapons, but I understand that they're trying to keep gameplay interesting. I'm not trying to say that something more authentic like Verdun isn't interesting, it's just that the Battlefield series is know for having a wide variety of experiences and they're trying to keep it from being restricted to bolt action rifles and trenches.
They wouldn't have to just restrict it to the trenches, considering not all Fronts in WW1 had them lol
Jayton Hawkins cringey
Lyle harry Yeah idc
That's not a rifle. THIS is a rifle.
+Clay Ronso roifle
+MPI1000 KNOIVES AND ROIFLES.
+Clay Ronso I see you've played rifle spooney
+Andy Yates Hahaha, I wonder how many people got that Simpsons reference. Man, it would be fun to shoot that rifle/bolt action howitzer. I would see pictures of it for years and think I would probably injure my shoulder or fall on my ass, but if that girl is firing it................
+I embalm you 66 it's not a Simpsons reference. it's a crocodile Dundee reference which was referenced in the Simpsons Australia episode
I've been a minor history buff for years. It was a real treat to see modern footage of one of these actually being fired. Othais, if you're inter3sted, German words look intimidating because they don't contract the words until they get used to using them but they stay much more consistent with pronunciation rules so once you learn theirs, you can pretty much pronounce anything. i.e. Flak started out as FLugzeugAbwehrKanone (aircraft defense cannon) until it became common use and was shortened. The u is pronounced like mood, w have a v sound (always), eu makes an oy sound and the e at the end makes a Schwa sound so it's pronounced like floog-zoyg ahb-vair kah-no-neh and the werk in Mauser were is pronounced vairk. Great series, kudos on an outstanding job.
+hydra26actual I'm just bad at German. I surrender.
C&Rsenal haha, no worries. The quality of your work stands fine on it's own merits. I was just trying to help if no one had already attempted.
Which crewman is responsible for winding up the tank before battle? - The patent for the tank shown at 2:08 is actually for a children's toy tank! Note the gears. I love it!
Yes Mae, you are my hero. The look of joy on your face after pulling the trigger of that behemoth is priceless. I was at a military weapons showcase years ago and had the chance to fire an English version of that gun (the Boys anti-tank) and chickened out. lol
Once again as my wife says, "Dang that Mae ROCKS!"
+PartTimeJedi I try :). I actually just tried a Boys anti-tank rifle while we were in Kentucky and it was awesome! Weirdly enough, if I compare the bruises both left, the T-Gewehr's was slightly worse.
Mae bringing the adorable back, I just want to roll you up and keep you in my pocket:
Mae"Ok, back to mister blahblahblathias"
Oth"Well we wont torture Mae too much further" *Takes gun back*
Mae"Awww!" *pouts*
I've said this before and I'll probably say it again so long as I don't get run over by a steel elephant tomorrow, but you guys produce a quality product in these videos. The research you put in to making these really takes you above the average 'professional RUclips channel' To include not only the military history of the firearm, but also the lead up, social and economic history of the gun and the politics surrounding its development really shows that no gun is created in a vacuum. You can look at one gun and say why on earth did they make this particular feature this way, it's a terrible idea, but when you understand how it fits into the military thinking, matches inbetween other guns and how it was intended to function, those silly ideas become really important to it's success.
Thank you to you three (is it three?) as well as everyone who helps you out with making these!
gonna have to second these sentiments. y'all do great work.
+EDSKaR Thanks man that means a lot. Core production team is 4: Mae, Othais, Suzie, Jay
Support team is numerous and belligerent but regular advise and help come from Michael, Drake, and Alex right now. Although others have helped in big ways at specific times.
Guys, I can't thank you enough for this episode. Absolutely brilliant. Mae had the best face yet in a show.
I also nearly spat my drink over my desk at the point of "now back to mr blar blar ... ".
The show just gets better and better with each episode. Both of you are getting more and more natural with each one. More power too ya.
+Mark Cotton (mcfontaine) Thanks!
+Mark Cotton (mcfontaine) Thanks! Now all I need is a beard...
OMG I love this channel! I just discovered it and love it. It's so nice to see people genuinely having fun shooting these wonderful old gems. This is why we collect and THIS is why we shoot.
Glad to hear it! I hope you have fun in the back episodes.
Can I say that CnRsenal is my favorite youtube gun channel because it gives concise, straightforward information of firearms, while not talking about the modern gun politics and the like; because the channels that do usually alienate me as a non-american.
+The Canuck Redcoat We definitely have private opinions on just about anything but including them here isn't right. If the history is so valuable it's beyond manipulating for short term goals and doing so will only make the show age poorly.
Exactly, thank you thank you thank you!
Fun fact, last night I feel asleep by vaping a bunch of D8 and listening to the first 15 minutes or so of this. There’s something special about media that you find interesting but can also fall asleep to without being kept up, very public television, but in a good way. Like, if this guy was in tv he’d be on PDS.
That giggle after firing was adorable! Thanks for a great show! :)
+Simon Annmo Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm five years late but figured I'd point out that at 3:45, the infographic lists the .303 MGs twice for the Mk 1 Male.
I love the instant smile on Mae's face after each round shot ^__^
i shouted for joy when i saw that this was the episode. Mae also looked like she had way too much fun shooting. Also it was cool watching the rounds bounce off.
+Nathaniel Culbertson clang
I love how eager Mae was to load in the second round. XD
+Kyle Morgan You would be too!
Watching Mae shoot this gun made me think of that line from the movie "When Harry Met Sally" "I"ll have what she's having"
This is the most in depth look into the T-Gewehr I have seen yet. Excellent work
+smilingwolf1980 Thanks!
Watching Mae shoot that was the best part of the video, the sheer joy you could see was awesome to behold.
Mega props to you Mae, I have shot a gen 1 grizzly .50bmg w/no brake or pad and it was a monster, I can't imagine shooting that behemoth.
Glad you got the opportunity to enjoy it :D
+NoharaLoco Thanks! OOO, I'd want to try that :)
Well if I ever get one Ill set you guys up.
Also if you love the big stuff you aught to look into trying a 14.5x114mm russian anti tank rifle. They designed it because the .50 bmg wasn't getting the job done in their eyes. Truly an awesome thing to behold.
So many words are flowing through my mind right now, most of them happen to be Hellsing Ultimate Abridged quotes.
+Steel Legionnaire LOL!
+Steel Legionnaire Bitches love cannons
LOL im exactly the same
+Steel Legionnaire "Haven't you heard the new sensation sweeping the nation? Bitches Love Cannons."
"Oh fuck, that's an anti-tank rifle."
I did indeed come here from TGW channel, being able to see the old guns and even watching them fire, makes me wish there were gun ranges around here.
I'd love to go fire some old rifles.
Never knew Mae was a Recoil Junkie.
Loved the grin after the first shot and how fast she reached for that second round... :)
A very well produced piece folks, so little has been done on the Tank Gewehr 1918 most people have no idea about it, or its place in History. It's also good that the Rifle has been dropped from the Destructive Device classification, and is treated as any sporting rifle. (would love to add one to the collection.) Cheers and Thanks again !!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very interesting! I am a cartridge collector and I have never heard of the 13.2x92mmR but I did some research on it and found out that the .55 Boys Anti Tank round was what replaced the 13.2x92mmR/ Luckily i have that round in my collection. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Donna I will check them out!
I found your channel via this video on The Firearms Blog. Great work you guys are doing! It is obvious you take the time to research your topics, and the present them so very well. Hats off to you Othias, but I got to say.... Any gal who can fire a .52 cal anti-armor gun, and smile... fire that same rifle 5 times and laugh out loud.... That's my kind of woman! Mae, I would be proud to call you "Grand Daughter"!
This is the grandfather of all anti material guns like the Barrett .50cal. It reminds me of the soviet PTRD and the PTRS 14.5x114mm Anti-Tank
Rifles in ww2.
You shouldn't compare it to a semi automatic rifle, especially to a Barrett platform (call it with the proper name, "M82/105 Barrett")
But yeah, this lead to the designing of numerous anti tank cartridges and rifles
+TheOtakuComrade It's called the M107 not "M105 Barrett"...
TheGaminWeasel
At least I didn't said that it reminds me of a semi automatic soviet AT rifle.
(And he also got the calibre wrong)
TheOtakuComrade
Semi or bolt that's not the point. Its the weapons purposes are the same and it started with this rifle.
Barret can suck T-Gewehr's balls.Because T-Gewehr has a bigger calibre.
Thank you guys for making educational, in depth videos on these pieces of history, and for being so wholesome and fun about it. No fluff, no frills, just important facts, and a wonderful delivery method that makes you feel like you’re having a (albeit one sided) conversation.
The only part better than Mae's shit eating grin is the build up of her laugh. I couldn't believe how those rounds moved that target around, I cant imagine what the original harder steel core bullets would do. Great video as always.
+Feeler JordanI believe they would've punched through without a problem.
+Feeler Jordan She is truly one in a million!
A very warm Hello to you both, Othias and Mae, from New Zealand.
I greatly enjoy your C&R Arsenal series, and the Great War Small Arms weapons series in particular; it being that my paternal Grandfather was a veteran of the 3rd (and later, 4th) Battle of Passchendaelle, Oct. 4th, 1917.
Grandfather died before I was born, but my Dad tells me his father did once have brief possession of a Tankgewehr, which was quickly taken from him by a CO.
Thus it is, that I have had a life-long interest in what is, at base, a very simple weapon.
In NZ I have seen 3 Tankgewehrs in museums, those being Auckland, Wellington, and the Army Museum at Waiouru. None have I had the opportunity to handle.
Seeing yourself and Mae handle the weapon, discuss it, and shoot it is a memory I shall treasure as long as I live. I got to see what grandfather told my father about, and see it 'in action'.
So, Othias and Mae: Thank You Both, from a very grateful Kiwi.
Kind and Respectful Regards Othias and Mae, Uyraell, New Zealand.
Thank you for sharing your personal story!
You both just look so happy. I like happy people.
+astrodudepsu I mean, sometimes.
I never got around to thanking you for this series, and this episode in particular. I had a school project on the development of new weapons in World War I, and this served as both a great resource for the T-Gewehr, and some good starting points for tank research.
Now THIS is an assault weapon (if has a pistol grip, after all - hehehe).Mae, you're a rock star!!! Four shots and you're still standing. Oh and the 'Back to blah, blah, blah, Othais' comment - priceless! The real question though - can this be modified to fire .32ACP?
+Girls Like Guns, Too (Jennifer Young) Lol, thanks! Why modify it? Just unseat the bullet and fill the inside of the cartridge with .32ACP. It'll be fine....
Mae Guns How silly of me. I wasn't thinking. Hehehe...
I know this Is years late ,
But I'd suggest just melting down the 32 (the gun itself that is) and firing_it_ from the TankGewehr
Someone may have already pointed this out, but there seems to be a minor typo on the Mark I tank slide: the "male" versions lists all machines guns, instead of the two 6 pounders. Around tinestamp 3:35
At 9:28 , I believe there was a mistake as the velocity is indicated over the weight bar.
Otherwise, great video!
+iotaje1 dang...I don't even know how given the way it is templated....
They have one on display here in the UK at Bovington Tank Museum....where I saw it and thought "what a bloody enormous rifle". Thanks for taking the time to put this together, and please let whoever lent you the rifle know that his generosity is appreciated.
Very well done
Thanks!
Chock full of delicious information. The quality and consistency of your videos is sublime. Great work!
She's a keeper! Oh yeah, the rifle, too.
Yes she is !!
19:10 Mae's little giggle fit after that last round was just charming as all get out.
My first looksee...I subscribed based on TFM's recommendation...and I was not disappointed.
+Dusty Rusty glad to hear it?
Never heard of this channel before. Stopped half way through the video to subscribe. I don't know how you found all this awesome information, but I'm glad you did and it's been incredibly interesting thus far. Really looking forward to watching your other videos.
+Legion Etrangere But did you finish this one? What if it went to shit towards the end?
Yes, I just finished it! The end was ABSOLUTE GARBAGE.
C&Rsenal
I'm kidding, I really enjoyed it the whole way through. Thanks for all the info, I'm sure digging up info on all these weapons, battles, and the men who fought in them was laborious, but from a consumer standpoint, I really enjoyed everything. Thanks again!
Legion Etrangere
Thanks for the compliments!
No, thank you for sharing this stuff with guys like me who're too lazy to find it for themselves!
Hey Mae. Kudos for that, not many girls would have even tried to hold that thing let alone put 4 rounds down range. Good stuff
+aerodip52 They're missing out.
Mae's nervous giggles and smile when shooting are always awesome. She must have shoulders of steel.
Wow this is really good, subbed and liked, keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Wooo returning 4 years later to the first c&rsenal video I ever saw and the one that got me hooked hope this helps the algorithm
Holy mother of recoil! Luckily Mae is still in one piece.. And strangely enough she seemed to enjoy shooting that behemoth :D
+Tuomas Raatikainen I did, I really truly did.
Ha ha ha ha ! That last shot of Mae's at the end ...... adrenaline rush laughter . Hope your shoulder bruise clears up quick . A Canadian fan
+SuperMadman41 P.S. Awesome vids !
+SuperMadman41 Bruise didn't even hurt, only noticed it because of the color difference.
Sure looked like it bruised badish . Know wonder the gun was fired from a bipod
Can you imagine the scope bite on that thing if you didnt have a long eye-relief optic?
This video is a masterclass of firearms review, thanks for your time and effort as always.
Wait a minute, did Mae just say "girth"? ;-j
+Jon Blake It's a good descriptive term :)
I adore Mae's smiles, the way they come on as the moment of discharge manifests -- quite charming :-)
I swear I heard Mae's thoughts as that cannon was about to go off.
Mae's thoughts pre-first shot: "OH GOD OH @^#% THIS THING IS GOING TO KILL ME! WHY DID I SIGN UP FOR THIS INSANITY?!? GOODBYE SHOULDER AND COLLARBONE...."
Mae's thoughts post-first shot: *KABOOM* "... I'm still alive? My limbs are still attached? I'M STILL ALIVE!!!! HAHAHAHA MORE AMMUNITION! I AM MAE! DESTROYER OF WORLDS!!!"
If a channel's popularity was based on the professional production of it's videos, you guys would have a LOT more subs.
+lazaglider Thanks man, we're trying to dot our i's but things slip through.
If I had to use this on an everyday basis in battle the first thing I would do is get some sort of cushioning.
weird job
In Otto Carius's book Tigers in the Mud he talked about the Soviet anti tank rifles, likely a lot were of the type mentioned that was a clone with a few upgrades. They couldn't penetrate into the crew compartment of a Tiger but they could sure make life miserable for a Tiger. Shooting out tracks, gas tanks, optics etc. Leaving the Tiger also very vulnerable to something heavier coming around to attack a blinded and immobile Tiger, and if the crew tried to escape it meant facing machine guns, rifles and artillery.
A small bruise? I am a bit surprised. I know the standing position helped and Mae only got to shoot 4 rounds...but that slow motion footage of the recoil made me think her smile was more of a forced grimace. Well done you two.
At 24:53 same thing happened to the early American tanks in WW2 which were of riveted construction. Any good hit would cause the rivets to act as bullets inside the fighting compartiment.
Man that's one of the biggest .32s I've ever seen!
The .50 BMG is 12.7X99mm, this is 13.2×92mm.....
Much bigger round....
.52
Half a millimeter bigger, I wouldn't call that much.
Vince Pelcat actually it is, ballistically saying it makes a huge difference...
Words cannot express the joy at hearing that monster fire. Great episode!
+themajor Thanks!
This is Chuck Norris's CCW plinking pistol.
The Chuck Norris cricket
LOL
This is Shaq's varmint rifle.
I came over from the great war, you guys have a great show with a lot of information. I like the large formula because I like hearing the history about the guns and it did help me better understand the great war.
Thanks for a great show and keep up the good work
+Henrik Jönsson Thanks for the compliments! I hope we can keep you entertained!
I like how the vid says "Small arms"
well it's below 20 mm so technically it's rifle (it's generally assumed that cannons start at 20 mm but there's no universal standard) so it would technically be a small arm even though there's nothing small about that monster.
Theres nothing small about it
Lol
This was pretty rad guys, great job! Thanks for posting it at 1:30, right when I was about to go to bed...stayed up the extra 38 minutes to watch it. Worth it though ;)
+Derek Niemi pfft its 7am and I just now got to lie down
+C&Rsenal Haha you guys are heroes.
Two questions: Is it good concealed carry?
Does it take glock mags?
Want to point out you also need to consider that not all steel is created equal, not just the ammo. I'm not very familiar with WW1 era tanks, but, the original tanks may have had through-hardened steel which would spall more easily, or soft steel which would be penetrated more easily. Plus lots of rivets which, if hit hard enough, break off and become a projectile inside the tank.
+VOLHans Yep.But withouth proper bullets this was probably overkill explanation for the video
FUCKING FINALLY!!!
(Also: at last an iconic gun after all these .32 ACP pistols)
Loved this episode, I also have a T-Gewehr and period ammo. Envious of the live firing by Mae. Keep up the good work!
uhh, you messed up your graphic at 9:43, you mixed up velocity and weaight
+Xtorin “Xt” O'hern Yeah, it's been noted. Sorry.
Mae adds a lot to your vids and its more then just her pleasing smile and face.
If you are looking for brownie points, you have them sir.
i love the diagrams!
+Haralambos Petalas Thanks!
Othias. Your comment about period telescopic sights brought back a memory. American manufacturers used Black Widow Spider silk for many rears. What other nations used for crosshairs is unknown to me. It really would not take many wallops from that cartridge before the silk broke,even if shellacked on to glass. We all tend to forget life before various synthetic materials showed up. Wonder how well a solid bronze bullet would do. There sure are a lot of detail differences in just 100years.
"Small Arms of WW1..."
...
This must be some new definition of "small" I wasn't made aware of...
+Micah Philson it's not artillery. therefore it's small arms.
Alexander Vicca So small it's taller than anyone using it! Also, I don't think if it has a bipod and still kicks more than rifles usually considered high-powered, then it's quite "small".
+Micah Philson Remember, this is small compared to everything else in an army. Anything under 20mm is a small arm. Big guns are 105mm artillery pieces which I think are a hair bigger than this gun.
Gannon Woods I wouldn't consider 105mm cannons "arms" either, since those are typically used to refer to things you can actually carry. And they don't call artillery "large arms".
Correct, but you missed the point. This small arm is still small relative to everything else the military is dealing with. Anything under 20mm is still considered a small arm
Rewatching and I'm only just realizing how good that Hannibal/tank gun analogy was.
Bravo.
That bolt is so huge that I wouldn't be surprised if the weapon operators used it as an improvised club.
+WheeledShooter94 That was the running joke with the crew the whole time we had it.
Just found your channel, excellent! I'm 73 and was a Combat Infantry Sgt. in Vietnam. Being Mechanized I really know what a 50 BMG round can do, like going through 18" of dirt and killing those at the bottom of a spider hole. Now this bad boy I would really like to try.
Mae, you remind me of my passed Lady that's a ++++++
11Bravo
"Small Arms of WWI"
I don't think so.
+Aaron Idstein Nah it's fine.
best gun channel on RUclips!
That laugh, Mikey, I think she likes it!
Great video, simply great. Best part is May's enthusiasm when firing it.
+Whitpusmc Thanks!
+C&Rsenal Most welcome, please continue to make them. I like the historical information, the practical engineering and the format. All around a well done quality show.
That's not a bolt, that's a goddamn tonfa.
+lefr33man werd.
C&Rsenal werd
Thank you so much for this, I have seen photos of this but seeing it being fired and learning the history is Great!
Taofladermous got me here. Your great video got you the subscription. Mae helped too!
+v8esprit Thanks
+C&Rsenal Same here, also I shared with my family as this is some great historical content
Sean McMunn how did they take it?
+v8esprit can anybody link me that taofledermaus video? Cant manage to find it anywhere :(
Zoddom
It's at the end of the most recent one. Concrete shells. I'd link but I'm mobile
The rounds in the infographics are up to scale. Impressive. Kudos to C&R Arsenal.
I think you are pushing the definition of 'small arms' with this weapon.
+1973Washu nah
+1973Washu It's under 20mm, so not "technically" an artillery piece
Oh Mae... Your face when you were firing dear! Priceless! Best shoot yet...?
Mae is braver than I. I think I got bruised just watching the recoil.
+Lorne Dmitruk I have a problem now, nothing I own has even half the recoil of that behemoth. I need more....
+Mae Guns Give that lady a cannon, ladies love cannons! lol
You need to try a 20mm anti-tank rifle, or if you like the raw awesomeness of omg power try a Russian 14.5x114mm rifle. Makes a .50 bmg feel tiny. A ptrs-41 or ptrd-41 will do the trick, both were developed from and inspired by the t-gewehr.
+NoharaLoco subtle hellsing reference is subtle
New subscriber here. You sold me @ 18:25... the smile on your face after pulling the trigger on that beast was priceless. Rock on!
Glad to have you!
Woo!
Wow, this lady is rare beast. And I'm not referring to the gun.
I noticed neither of you tried to shoot it from the prone. 😆 that much recoil would make battlefield shooting absolutely horrible. Sweet review. Love the videos.