History of WWI Primer 023: German Pistole 08 "Luger" Documentary
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
Cartridge: 9x19mm
Capacity: 8 rnds
Length: 8.76"
weight: 1.92 lbs
Additional reading:
The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols, Volumes 1-3
Joachim Gortz, Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess
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Richs revolver had many advantages. In heavy bombardment you could hide behind it. In Naval operations neither ballast nor anchors were required.
Lol
And you could bomb enemy trenches by dropping it from airplanes
*Reichsrevolver
If you shoot it, not only will your arm fly around the earth and hit you in the face, but the person you shot would just go into space.
@@RNKel1 Depending on how you stand it could hit you in the butt.
I'm imagining Luger being asked to put a loaded magazine indicator on his gun and just gesticulating wildly at the magazine inserted.
"You fucking idiots"
Brazil acquired 5,000 Lugers pistols, at the same time it bought the Mauser M908 rifles. These weapons were manufactured and delivered over 1909 and 1911 and have the characteristics of what collectors call "Model 1906" (DWM factory named "New model"): Luger caliber 7.65 mm (7.65 x 21), barrel 120mm (4.75 inches), safety button on the handle, helical recovery spring, bolt and extractor with integral grips with new design. The extractor was marked "carregada" ("loaded" in Portuguese) and the only specific marking of our contract was a small "B" inside a circle stamped on the left side of the gun (beside the chamber). The guns of the Brazilian contract were sequentially numbered 01-5000, Finally, contrary to what some people insist, there are NO pistols aimed at the Brazilian forces in 9mm Luger caliber, much less such "500 copies for officers" or something like that. Weapons found in this caliber have been modified at a later date or are simply fakes.
Othais whenever I close my eyes while you're talking, I hear the love-child of Kermit and Seth Rogen.
Christian Nelson oh my god that's amazing XD
Christian Nelson what have you done?
Christian Nelson you’re right
omg that's funny
Damn, that is so true.
"Really try to forget what this gun looks like"
I open my eyes and *gasp* KRAUT SPACE MAGIC!!!
All Kraut guns have some space magic in them
@@thesturm8686 that's how america put a flag on the moon... they stole the head scientist from the V2 rocket program.
Very well done. Can't wait to see part two!
+TFB TV Thanks! .... now I just gotta do it.
@@Candrsenal You said you're not covering it in this series, but do you know definitively that the C-93 Borchardt was never used in WWI? For some reason Wikipedia says it was in service until 1945, but I don't know what "in service" means.
@@Edax_Royeaux Yeah Wikipedia isn't really reliable.
@Subhan Ali Would being adopted by a police force count as "in service"?
@Subhan Ali I don't know if they were either. I'm just wondering if that's what they mean "in service". -shrug-.
Excellent episode! You knocked it out of the park!
+TAOFLEDERMAUS SPOTTED IN THE WILD!!!!
+TAOFLEDERMAUS zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
C&Rsenal Lies of fake!
***** *Verified name*
+TAOFLEDERMAUS Tao don't you have click bait to make buddy?
I Purchased a P08 many years ago, with holster and spare magazines (2 I was really impressed!) it was a standard infantry type but in absolutely mint condition, as were the holster and spare mags. Being a cop, I took it along to the range the next qualification session, and after firing my duty .357 Mag for qualification, I went through the whole routine once more firing the Luger with surplus hardball ammo (red primer) I was a bit surprised when I actually scored better with the Luger, I usually come out near the top score with any pistol owing to my being raised with guns in my hands from age 8 on up, but I was genuinely surprised with the scoring with that old German War Horse. There hasn't been a day gone by since I sold her that I haven't wished I had her back in my hands once more. Ah well I still have my Astra A100 and my Citadel M1911A1 conceal carry model. Guess I am well protected, but as for holding a pistol and just dreaming of the places she has been and the wars she has seen, just isn't the same, especially now when I am old and gray with long boring tales to tell my grandsons when they climb up on my laps with requests for stories "from the olden days"
Last summer I bought a 1939 production P38 and a 1916 production C96 Red 9. The Red 9 is in near mint condition complete with wood broomhandle and leather holster. I have a relatively high end Springfield Armory 1911 and I find that I am more accurate with my P38 but I have no idea why. I was a police officer in the 1970s. Carried a .357 service revolver and I bought an original production Colt 1911. I sold the Colt after leaving policing but I sure wish I'd have kept it. My Springfield is close to the Colt in feel but it isn't the same, and I'm guessing a Colt might compete well against a P09.
I’m glad you guys switched over to period accurate music for the shooting segments. It really gives your show some extra character.
That look on Mae's face when he pat her on the head...
+Dawn Alderman And again when she was patting the Luger!
+Dawn Alderman One hell of an eyeroll
+Dawn Alderman That pat was very helpful. It demonstrated to us that she is real.
A female shooting a 9 mm and it seems the Luger doesn't have a lot of recoil compared to allot of other 9 mm handguns. When I see females shoot 9mm or above It's clear that most guns with a caliber of 9 mm and up are not really made for them ( most f them ) . It is to powerful for the "average" Lady. The earlier luger should be tested. Personally think its normal and there is nothing wrong with the fact that males are on average stronger than females. It does show in a way that the industry has a gap to fill. Engineer a good size cartridge that lady's can shoot without fear nor pain in the wrist. ( I am trying to get my better half to be able to protect herself ) It's hard though when you want something above .22/25 and a nice evening without her having pain in her hand and wrist. There must be a way to do it better in 2017. So make something for real self defense and concentrate on women for once.
I'm not sure if the discrepancy is quite as drastic as you think it to be.
After Ian's series on Forgotten Weapons, I get an involuntary twitch every time I hear the word Bergmann
you guys deserve to be much more popular than you are your content is polished, well researched and enjoyable
Thanks!
I'll second that!!
Or at least a sponsor.
When trying out a heap of pistols the luger just felt perfect in my hand, good size, perfect balance. 😍
Howdy and thank you for the thorough video. Just a few hours earlier, I examined a DWM p08 at our local Cabelas. It was double-date stamped 1920 over 1917.
You explained the reason for the 1920 stamp, solving that mystery.
Thank you for that, also.
Carl & Ian have done a mud test and found the P08 100% reliable.
That goes without saying.
+TiglathPileser3 lol a mouth full of mud is what you could get right?
Yeah, it's reliability comes from the violence of the action chucking the mud out. Not designed in specifically but a side effect of a good design.
Completely unlike the 1911, BTW...
Funny that it turned out like this...
Karl seemed to think that most Luger owners aren't using the best ammo. InRangeTV used 147gr bullets to cope with the 100-year-old springs, as opposed to the standard 125gr ball that the German Army would been have using and the 115gr range ammo most people (including me!) would use if they were afraid of wearing the poor thing out.
Mae: "Touch my head again, you'll pull back a bloody stump."
Great dynamic.
Between you, The Great War, and Forgotten Weapons now and then, we viewers are getting some really great in-depth and hands on history from 100 years ago (events many of us do not realize are still impacting us daily).
+Dean Orvik The war made an incredible change to the whole world. I can't even imagine a modern day without its influence.
A very well done series! I don't feel brain cells dying as I watch.
Forgotten weapons recommended you. I really like your videos!
Thanks!
+C&Rsenal are you sure that this is 222 cm long?! XD
New patreon goal : reinforced pokey-hand
"You can't make an entire livelihood just selling to the Swiss"
Replace "Swiss" with "US Government" and you'll see the lesson that Colt has failed to learn.
+Francis Borek Especially since civilians sales would be just fine if they did not show such contempt for civilians.
A few people in Colt seemed to have learned that lesson with their Competition line, a few more carry guns, and some more advertising in the gun rags. They need to get rid of Gen. Keys though. Apparently he detests the thought of selling guns to civilians.
+Francis Borek Detested sounds about right. They also make a bunch of changes to the ARs they sell to civilians to make double extra special sure you can not put an M16 bolt in it...even though that makes no difference. They even hacked off the entire bottom of the bolt carrier to make sure it could never engage an auto-sear. They really hate the idea of civilians with their weapons.
They did that during the AWB, but I've had at least two 6920's and a 6720 since 2012 and they've all had the M16 style BCG.
+Francis Borek Oh? That is good to hear. Them going so far out of their way to ensure civilians can not have automatic weapons was a really telling thing. I have heard that they are under partially new management...again. Maybe it will be better this time...but I still find their ARs over prices, ha.
Othais, it might not be exciting television, but listening/watching you work through the Luger is exactly why I'm here. A fantastic episode.
+Peter Larkin Thanks man!
Fantastic, comprehensive and the kind of video that such a weapon deserves! Thanks very much. I'm not a handgun guy but this was just so damn interesting!
I hope the two of you will be able to make a video at some point two fantastic RUclips channels who do thorough research on what they are talking about
+zman1508 I've already woo'ed him on a Martini and you know that.
+britishmuzzleloaders We're at Springfield photographing today and tomorrow. Pop me an email if there is anything you think they may have in the collection you can't normally get at and I'll take a look at photographing it for you. (ok, pick 2 though or I'll be buried)
C&Rsenal Wow... Ok,... lemme think.. Cheers.
How about the earliest flintlock they have? Maybe an 1861 Rifle -Musket? Thanks so much! Are you there for anything in particular?
What Patreon level of support is required to watch Mae work the toggle-lock all day? That 16 hour video would be great amusement.
"Tons and tons of thirty-twos.... The all thirty-two channel"
Priceless!!!
Karate chop toggle reloading is so fun. Really great design. Love shooting my P08.
39:03 - sooo, is that a hint of Ian and Karl doing a mud test with a P08? If so: YAY! :D. Anyway, thanks for the terrific episode. Being from Germany, the P08 has a VERY special place in my gun enthusiast heart.
+.rzr I think InRange should definitely be pestered into trying it.
Ohhh yes, they totally should!
They eventually did! and the test went way better than i expected, gun ran pretty much flawlessly if i can remember correctly
You and Ian from Forgotten Weapons have the best showcase videos on the old guns of the past. Top notch videos from both of you. Best on RUclips. Thanks and keep up that good vids please. Thanks from everyone who enjoys your vids.
20:43 - perhaps the reason Luger initially went with the bottlenecked 9mm was headspace. Bottlenecked cartridges headspace on the shoulder, and this was familiar to him, whereas a rimless straight-walled case like the 9mm Parabellum headspaces on the case mouth (and he probably wasn't sure THAT would work until he tried it - everything before that was either rimmed or bottlenecked). I always thought rifle ammunition was bottlenecked to get a reasonable amount of powder behind a small diameter bullet without having to have a very long cartridge case, plus with rimless ammunition you have a more positive way to headspace the round compared to headspacing on the case mouth. Obturation actually occurs along the walls of the case ahead of the solid brass in the case head, as the brass walls are forced against the steel of the chamber to seal the gases in. Incidentally, I think "Georg" is actually pronounced "Gay-org". Confused me when I watched "The Sound of Music".
I learned a lot from this episode and thank you for your attention to detail, especially the history and development through the various trials. I also learned that if I am ever fortunate enough to meet Mae in person I will NEVER pat her on the head...NEVER!
+Robert Neal I'm glad you enjoyed it!
O:55 in the video, 222cm, now that's a long pistol!!
That would be the Tank Luger...
My last milsurp was a $400 mint-bore 1938 VOPO Luger purchased from AIM in the final batch available in 2001.
yall are my favorite vintage and relic gun channel on you tube
Aww
I was looking forward to this for a long time and you never disappoint me, good work !
One of the coolest animations I've seen. A lot going on in that little guy!
Genius design. I love the history of small arms production from that period. Love your videos, it's great to hear the history explained in great detail.
+DownTownStalker Thanks!
Borchardt scoffed at the idea that Ludwig Loewe would get someone _else_ to perfect his gun. I wonder how the conversation went.......
"Pah! Who could improve my designs?"
"Well, we've got this one guy. You may have heard of him. He's not a big deal, but you may know him as Georg Luger"
_Under his breath_ "Well he won't ever amount to anything....."
+TheGoldenCaulk "The world does not recognize my obvious genius! Their money, Their power, and their large breasted girlfriends are rightfully mine!"
+TheGoldenCaulk Good old hubris
Hey guys as a newby to your channel I believe it to be one of the most honest reviews channels out there, so well done to you all.🙏🏻👍🏻🇦🇺🇺🇸
almost an hour of Luger awesomeness... YES
+BenBomb5 nah
Brilliantly in-depth episode. I absolutely love the long episodes.
+Mark Cotton (mcfontaine) Thanks sweetie.
Great vid! Uber informative! I look forward for part 2!
Othias pats Mae on head >welp!< you be playing with fire there my son. lol
*mae pulls out a gun on Othias*
+Varan the 8th A small voice tells me that Mae wouldn't need a gun...
-gun turns out to be a reichsrevolver. Others walks away as she loads it, takes off the safety, attempts to Cock it.
That'd certainly be an interesting and possibly enjoyable ass-whooping / death.
I made a mistake on waiting so long to watch you guys, you make awesome content over things others don't get to cover as much detail on
We're glad you showed up!
I only started watching them this year, I’ve got a lot of catching up to do haha they’re great.
That awkward moment when you catch the video so early it's not available in HD yet.......
+hawkins740 Now that's dedication.
Another Great Show Othais and Mae!
+Y Pop Thanks!
My Walther PPS has that chamber "step".
Was really surprised when I examined the brass because it looks just like the brass from my 1912 Luger.
Great video btw.
Another excellent presentation. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into these videos.
+Bo Forgault Thanks for watching and commenting! It helps!
Oh geez! Almost an hour! I figured with the history this gun has this episode would be long, but that takes up about the rest of my open free time today! But if you're gonna have any gun go for over 50 minutes, this would definitely be one of the best to do it with!
+Micah Philson and they will do the navy luger next. . . hope you free up time for that episode
Amazing video!! I'm learning so much! Thank you and keep up the great work!!
I love all of your videos on all of the weird pre-war pistols.
They're all so weird and foreign to most people, including me.
Your background information is 1st class and makes this channel above the rest, who just show and shot
WOW!!! Your history of the gun is great. I am very impressed with how well you presented the information and all of your research.
Thanks!
Great episode re: P08 Luger. Thanks + congrats on job well done. Incidentally, I saw a review of a Brun Latridge Model 1900 today and this pistol reminded me of the ergonomics of the Borchardt C-93. Maybe this type of design was "thing" in the 1900's. Thanks again for sharing and all the excellent work you and your team are doing.
Finally a show that explains how these weapons work and gives demonstrations!
+theprisoner3 YOU PULL THE TRIGGER AND IT GOES BANG.
Othais and Mae, you guys made my day with such a captivating in-depth episode. As I am watching your presentation, I have my Grandpa's 1937 Swiss Luger with red grips in its ordnance holster, laying in front of me on the coffee table. How cool is that?
I hope someday, you will get into the Sig P210, it is also a superb shooter. Keep up the good work. Thanks guys.
+Neptune Bluez D'aww, thanks. We'll likely get into sub variants after we get out of WWI. So there would definitely be a Swiss Luger drill down.
What a great series!
Pat a woman on the head and then hand her a gun ? You're a braver man than I Othias !
26:50 - You may be surprised at exactly how many of us are tuning in for exactly this sort of thing. I crave this kind of nitty gritty, and you guys deliver.
+Nicholas Nystrom I'm glad you like boredom!
just found your channel through "history buffs" then "the great war" and withing two seconds I could tell this channel is RUclips gold, great work guys .
+William Stanway Thanks!
Mae, You are completly right. This thing is like grown out of Your hand. Its a part of You. Never in my life I had a hun im my hand that was so much part of me. And I am massive 1911 fan.
Great video guys. Congrats on a fantastic channel. I have a marine Luger and its amazing. The build quality is outstanding, you can truly feel the workmanship and the quality of the materials. Field strip and clean isn’t too bad, but a detail strip is murderous! And don’t get me started on reassembly... putting the recoil spring back is actually a two man job, and even them takes a huge amount of effort (and skin off your hands). But when you take it to the range, people go nuts, it’s like showing up in a Rolls Royce with a supermodel on your arm. Agree with Mae on shooting, but 2 handed it’s a tack driver. If you put the stock on the grip, it’s crazy accurate even without a cheek weld.
As always such an informative and well crafted video. Thank you all.
+Raymond Gill Thanks for watching.
Another masterpiece. I can't wait for episode 2. Mae, I congratulate you on your self-control in not assaulting Othais after his coronation "pat"; what else could that have been?
"Don't be a goober, lug a Luger!"
+RefreshingDietDrPepper ok, now do Bodeo
+C&Rsenal "You're not a day old, just skip the Bodeo."
I would have tried for some kind of "not my first rodeo" reference, myself.
Just watched it again!! Amazing!!!
Such history, such impact.
Wow!!
Superb episode as always! Keep 'em coming!
+Adamant Consternation Thanks! We will
Excellent overview! I look forward to hour long episodes on every Luger variant ever.
+David M. no
Watched the whole video with my Swiss 06/29 on my lap. Love you guys.
+NookyAvenger man those are nice.
Good video, Othais and Mae. Looking forward new ones.
+mauzim Thanks!
+mauzim Thank you!!
I got that Futurama reference! Nice. Also, the Luger I shoot has a super crisp trigger. It feels like very little take-up and therefore it's harder to have pull errors. The break was tight and short, adding to working with ergonomics. This one was made in 1911.
Where is the reference?
This video absolutely gets an A+
To be honest, if *any* video you do calls for going over toggle-lock systems again, it's the P08. With how iconic this pistol is, it's gonna draw new viewers. Still yet another great video, though!
I wonder if, in 100 years, someone will have a RUclips channel making videos about Glocks and AR-15’s the same way Othias makes videos about G-98’s and Lugers...
That first picture is really cool looking, and great episode as always!
+colonel veers thanks!
Dark Souls III and a C&Rsenal video on Luger on the same day? I must be in heaven.
+DrBreezeAir Do I have to wear underoos under those robes? I wanna poop on some birds
Can you poop in heaven? This IS heaven.
I guess I'm really lucky to have an all matching po8 made by dwm in 1918
@C&Rsenal Hello Othais and thanks for the great video. As a half germ, half hungarian, i can translate FEG for you, if you not know the translation allready. FEG stands for Fegyver- és Gépgyártó Részvénytársaság ("Arms and Machine Manufacturing Company").
Your pronounciation made my day. Thank you very, very much. Keep up the good work and Greetings to Mae. :)
Dang man your production value is high, some of the best looking videos on RUclips and backed by a ton of research!
+scabbynacker Also, I have a Swiss Luger that is gorgeous. One of my favorite guns!
+scabbynacker Thanks!
I love the riffle wall paper ❤️
Another terrific episode. My family would have been happy had it been two hours long.
+Adam Jarvis Good to hear!
MOST INFORMING! Love this channel! 🇺🇸😎
53 minutes? Welp, there goes my evening.
+piritskenyer sorry
+C&Rsenal Why sorry, that's the best 53 minutes of entertainment (and education) available! Great work as always!
I mean, what weirdo wouldn't want to spend his evening listening to Othias delve into the history and function of one of the most iconic handguns of the 20th century?
+Krešimir Koržinek no kidding. I have to admit having a tales of the gun length video was absolutely awesome. And it was just on one gun!
+piritskenyer It's a significantly historical pistol. Deal with it.
Krešimir Koržinek normal people?
Man last time I came this early it lead to a awkward silence, and the feeling of disappointment.
+shadows96100 also low res
@@Candrsenal Nothing like a bit of pixellation where it matters most...
Your best episode yet! well done!!
+Alex Luyckx Thanks!
In the 1970's, I owned a Stoeger .22 Caliber Luger 'replica' and it DROVE ME NUTS when it came to take-down and cleaning: parts were popping off everywhere and keeping everything compressed for refitting would have gotten me killed in the field. As it was, my fingers got bloodied at the garage workbench. Still, the shape was, and is, iconic.
...even a blind man will love a Luger..
Georg Luger based the P-08's grip angle to the natural pointing finger...51° , hence, it's accuracy
nice video and love your commentary
Top shelf stuff, as per usual.
+bobmonsen Thanks man
How does that salesman patter go again! Gr8 show. Recommended to my son.
I agree on the Lahti (if that's what you meant). I was thinking "hmm, that sounds just like the L-35" while Mae was describing the gun. Great episode!
+Laifs Thanks!
Lovely episode! Thanks for all the midnight oil burned as of late.
My Luger is a 1915 DWM as well. Cool.
+crunchysuperman It's my own fault for not understanding how much the T-Gewehr and Luger would roll me over in addition to travel.
very well presented !
I own 2 of them.Very fascinating mechanism for its time but its truly a an iconic pistol to look at and a joy to shoot.The legacy of this pistol is it's cartridge the 9mm Parabellum which has gone on as a popular round in the civilian and military and called the 9mm Luger or 9mm NATO.
At last, a proper authentic bad guy gun. Great work. As usual.
+Pieter Batenburg Movie prop masters rejoice!
What the heck is this? Luger? Never heard of one! I thought this channel was about .32ACP. I'm disappointed.
LOL!!!!! OMG, it's finally here. The Luger!!!!!! I got myself one recently and I gotta say, it's awkward at first but it does feel good in the hand. The muzzle flip is quite a bit too. But then again, it's a 100+yo design. Definitely not something you shoot with a modern thumbs forward grip for sure. I still love it and so glad I was able to get one.
+Girls Like Guns, Too (Jennifer Young) Oh nice! What kind?
C&Rsenal It's a 1936 S/42 model.
***** sweet
Brilliant Historical and Entertaining stuff on the P98 Luger history. The best I have found yet.
Great, Mae seems to love this Pistol, I must try and find one. What came across was that this Pistol was not the piece of rubbish some people convey. Yes, it survived two major wars!
I don't look forward to the day you run out of subject material. Hey Team, keep up this great work in the same format. - and then, 'War Were Declared'!
Ooops, I meant P08
Love you guys
fantastic video and story
+Thomas Symonds Thanks!
I share in your exasperation at the Swiss 😂😂😂
This has been the most entertaining episode this far thanks primarily to your presentation. 😂😂 👍