Respectfully disagree. The Sony 15/1.4 is smaller then the Sigma 24/2, let alone the 16mm. The Sony 11/1.8 is a small wonder. Both Sigma and Sony have really small high quality wide angle zooms that cannot be matched by full frame lenses. The bodies are smaller to. Adding price, and APS-C is a great small and cheap alternative. I take out my A7r4 for the highest quality and my A6400 for the most fun with APS-C lenses.
APSC lenses are great, I just think Sony needs some more compact f2 primes. How is there no 27mm f2.8 pancake for Sony APSC or a 18mm f2? The Sony 15mm f1.4 is probably fantastic but still over priced in my opinion Thanks for the comment, I really enjoyed hearing your opinion
@@gerardneedham Depend. Sony 15mm F1,4 almost twice lighter (any gimbal accepting) and much smaller than Sigma 16. With perfect sharpness and others futures which Sigma 16 just don't have.
APSC (a6700) bodies and the A7C bodies weigh exactly the same. So forget that. The Sony 15mm 1.4 costs 630 EUR, which makes it even more expensive than the Sigma 24 2.0 Agree on the Sony 11 1.8. It's really a gem. Unfortunately never had a use for that wide of a focal length myself
@@DDHDTV the A6700 is lighter: 514gr for the A7cII and 493gr for the A6700. But that is so little difference it is almost the same. And yes, the Sigma 24/2.0 is almost €150,- cheaper then the Sony 15/1.4 over here a.t.m., but the A6700 is €700,- cheaper. So, the A6700 with 15/1.4 is €550,- cheaper then the A7cII with the Sigma 24mm. Yeah, have to love that 11mm and yeah, that 15mm should be cheaper. I feel for a lot of people APS-C is the better compromise. I run both full-frame for "serious work" and APS-C for hikes.
A few corrections - #1 - full frame doesn’t really affect sharpness, but it can effect noise and relative depth of field. Lens quality and pixel density will determine maximum sharpness. So using the same lens at the base ISO you will get slightly more sharpness from the a6700 than the a7 iii or the a7s iii or even the a9 (I, II, or III). What’s probably affecting your sharpness is the sigma lenses, which are great, but not technically amazing compared to Sony G and G Master offerings. #2 - you aren’t experiencing more missed focus because you are using APS-C lenses, you are experiencing more missed focus because you are using third party lenses with slower stepping focus motors. The Sony G aps-c lenses hold up really well compared to the full frame G lenses (but there are obviously no g master tier lenses in the APS-C world).
As a note, I have the a6700 as well. I pretty much exclusively use it when I’m shooting in dangerous environments (steel fab shops, blast tents, paint bays, etc) - for basically all of my other work I use the a7 IV and my a7s IIIs. I appreciate using the a6700 and cheaper lenses because I’ve had flying chips of molten metal and fine silica particulates destroy lenses (24-70 g master), camera bodies and tripods - so having a cheaper body and lens in those environments is good for my mental health.
Even the Sony 15mm F1.4 fir APSC isn’t amazing when you used to Full frame, my A7IV is much sharper than my a6700 and then I recently used a medium format and that is much sharper, the larger the sensor the more detail you get period
@@gerardneedham again that’s due to lens quality not the sensor being sharper or something. The a6700, when used with GM glass is sharper than the a7 III OR A7C with the same glass. Certainly more detailed than the a7s III in both photos and videos. My point is that the limiting factor isn’t the “sharpness” of APS-C sensors but rather the glass in front of it. Personally, I basically only use my FF GM glass when I’m shooting with the a6700.
@@gerardneedham also, the auto focus on the 15mm G lens tested quite fast in my experience (which was my only contention in the original post). I don’t currently own one, but I’m not fully sure what you are on about. The 15mm holds up very well compared to some of the FF G glass as well.
Thanks for the update! Agree that the Sigma 16mm f/1.4 largely defeats the point of aps-c because of its size, especially when when compared to smaller full-frame options. The better option for aps-c is the Sony 15mm f/1.4 g lens! It's an identical focal length and DoF as Sigma 24mm f/2 on full-frame, while being smaller and with flawless autofocus performance. Really wish Sony would make a full f/1.4 lineup of G-series primes for aps-c (much like it did for full-frame with the compact 24mm, 40mm, and 50mm g lenses). That would really allow the a6700 to reach its full potential.
Sigma 16 is one of the best value for money lenses for APSC line up.....its defn not a travel lens.....the sharpness of that lens is unmatched....you will be amazed by how much crop and editing the pictures/videos shot from that lens can accomodate
" 2:20 "The larger the sensor, the more detail you get when you zoom into the image, or you print an image." What on earth makes you think that is the case?
@@gerardneedhamthe difference between a cellphone sensor and an APS-C sensor has nothing at all in common with the difference between an APS-C sensor and a full-frame sensor. Try comparing the actual things you're talking about. You may also want to look into what image resolution in the files a "100 megapixel" smartphone sensor is actually producing, because they're measuring things differently than real cameras. A 100 megapixel smartphone sensor will give you, at most, a 25 megapixel image file.
@@StephenStrangwaysI watched this guy before and stopped after two video's. I find he contradicts himself and he says things that a season photographer like myself stop and shake my head. Everyone swears there photographers now! This camera kicks ass and I laugh when I hear full frame fan boys put down apsc. I find RUclips content creators just recycle the same stuff between themselves and try to pass it off as fact. Time to move on to another channel! 🤢
Uh... 100 megapixel is 100 megapixel. If there's a difference in detail, it's the glass you're using. An aps-c lens has to be sharper though since the sensor is smaller. A lens might be perfect for full frame, but not sharp enough for aps-c (with same resolution on the sensors)
I was using FX30 for a video job and rented a a6700 for my assistant to do some BTS of me working. The quality is mind blowing. Makes me wonder why should I upgrade to a FF. haha
What's annoying is this apsc vs ff debate. Both can be equally productive depending on your needs. This video simply reiterates cliches about these formats - yawn.....
The Sigma 16 f1.4 isn’t that huge. Let’s be honest. Unless your criteria is you MUST be able to put it in your pocket mounted. I can do that with the 30 and the 56. I am running the a7iv with Sigma 24 f1.4 dg dn now and it’s only a bit bigger but more weight overall.
I'd like to switch from APSC - Sony A6400 to fullframe, but to be honest... I was about dreaming of having A7IV last year, but when A7C-II came up with A7R-V features, I literally gave up on A7IV, it's like heavier with lack of features... and you don't buy a camera every year, so.. having additional features you never know when you are going to use, is just better to have... I don't know if it is just better to wait for A7-V in 2024 probably..
I have been doing a Leica M10-R experiment which taught me about groupthink, fetishes and the perceived sharpness of a photograph. Now with the A6700 I can breathe normally again. With the SEL20E28 pancake it makes me smile. Grab and snap. It is normal to come home with perfect shots! I already got the SEL11F18 and the Sigma 56mm is stuck in the customs. Now I'll have to Read The F Manual!
this is sold for my travelling need. plus this kind of camera is dope and super useful for events as well just for parties . photobooth business owners. lots of use.
Thank you for the video. Been to Japan many times but never Australia. Live here in the US. I bought a A6700 to try as well. I own many full size full frame Sony cameras but now trying out the A7CII to get a body as small and with the same great sensor as the A7IV which I sold last year. Take a look at it. I’m impressed with its upgraded features over the A7IV even with only one card slot. I do use both Sigma I-Series and the Sony small G lenses on the A7CII to keep it small. On APS-C really like 15mm f;1.4 G Sony. Take care.
@@gerardneedham Set the A7CII next to the a6700, you have to look hard to tell the difference. I frequently pick up my a6700 by mistake, thinking it is my A7CR. If I was to rate the build quality of my cameras vs the A74, I would give it to my A7R3. That camera body is a tank, like my 1979 Nikon F2A. But hey, don't drop your camera, treat them like a newborn child and they will last 40 years.
Nice video. The one reason I wouldn't get a6700 is because it's literally the same size as a ZV-E1 for videographers. So for anyone who's starting with APS-C but are definitely planning to go FF in the future, it just makes more sense to future proof with the E1.
full frame would mean buying all ff lens, which are way more expensive and heavy. I think best way for starter is to buy second hand equipment and test if they really like filming or not first before actually making such a big investment
I just downgradef from ff to apsc, the a6700 brings so much cool features with it, that are definitly missing at my a7s3 i think it will be a good combo to pair those two
I thought of getting the Sony A6700, but it lacks a good joystick, the EVF is too small with too low resolution and I got my two Sony A7RIV which I often use in APSC mode with 26 megapixels, so I have actually 4 Cameras in two Camera bodies ! Sony needs to make a more high end APSC Camera with their 40 megapixels APSC sensor which Fuji X cameras use.
I agree with going back to the a7iv. My first camera was an a7Siii and I'm completely spoiled. The covid thing made me sell my a7Slll to pay rent, and now I'm getting the a7iv for sure. The a7Slll shot 4k at 120 fps, but only with the CFexpress "A" cards. SDXC is just fine with either the a7Slll OR the a7iv, (4K@60) There was very little difference between the 4K@ 120 and 4K@60, which made the 200.00 CF Express "A" card superfluous. -Thanks for the hard work and generosity to share your findings...
I’m Little confused, FE lenses are fullly compatible with E mount (aps-c) cameras. Not sure why one would need specific aps-c lenses when a pre-existing FE kit was available. Same for aperture specifications, an f/1.4 FE lens is still a f/1.4 lens on a aps-c body. The internal focus specifications may affect their individual performance. Same deal with bokeh and detail, as you wonderfully described 😁
Yeah you can use Full frame lenses on Sony APSC cameras no problem, you can also use APSC lenses on Full frame with quality loss, but not major. APSC lenses are just much cheaper than full frame
while price doesn't really matter when you can afford it, i'll say weight is a dealbreaker for some. for example: 280g - Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN | C 371g - Sony FE 85mm f/1.8 the cropped lens is about 100g lighter, feel like nothing on paper, but carrying it, even a 50g matter, and that's only a f1.8 glass. If we're talking about 1.4 head to head: 280g - Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN | C 820g - Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM plus the body itself you save tons of weight
Literally I like and love yours and Mitch made Japan content, but when I met this Australian-Japanese photographer Teo Crawford, I love his Japan content but way too long. 😅 Literally you guys made my day cause it's my dad's home. So I just wish if I gonna live in Japan soon I hope I can close with you and Mitch Lally. 😍🥰
And then 98% of all pixel peeps use it only to post on social media and RUclips… I personally think ASPC is what most of all people need. Who can afford FF will benefit not much as will pay for that benefit.
@@gerardneedham I came from A7C and A7IV to the A6700, and I'm perfectly happy. I don't need 40MP for video, nor do I need it for pictures. I'm thrilled, that my foto bag is tiny, and even with a fairly hefty Viltrox lens, it all fits . Full frame is not objectively better than crop frame, it depends how and for what you need it.
Heavily agree with your take on the Sigma 16 1.4. Been using it for ages and never really got warm with it. The Sigma 23 1.4 is the reason I'm switching to full frame now. Was waiting for a 35mm equivalent, and when I saw how big and heavy it is (also kinda expensive), I started thinking about FF. After our Japan trip, I decided to reduce the kit even further, by using zoom lenses (18-50 2.8) but was not impressed. Well, got my hands on the Sigma 28-70 on an A7C in Japan and was blown away after I saw the pictures at home on the big screen. My APSC sigma lenses where never that sharp.
@@SimpTooth You can use your APS lenses on the ATRIII. What are your subjects? For outdoor action it is A6700 with the 18-135 zoom. (or Eq.) For portraits and landscape, go for the full frame.
Credible use case review, Gerard - video, 3rd party lens performance a matter of personal preference. Same for pro considerations, like 1 SD card. Valuable heat dissipation tips,a plus. “Secret lens” a tease😊; cute “like button double tap” advice (how about 3 times?😂). Subtle product promotions. Might other (brand) lenses bring you back? Viltrox, for example, or high end Sony glass. Compared to days used, does your shutter count for A6700 come close to count for A74? Have you considered A7C2? Daring host asks model to spread her legs and RUclips lets it pass - nice😊. Almost 6k subs - 🎉. No “typo police” nit picks for this post.😊Cheers!
@@gerardneedham then the SIGMA trio will be better then Tamron 17-70 i already have 30/1.4 sigma bit of a confused position wish i had enough money :')
If you have full frame cameras then I see no reason to have an additional APS-C setup, makes no economic sense. I think this camera system is for travel photographers and vloggers, if I was starting out again I'm not sure I'd go full frame when there are so many great lenses for APS-C
Yeah I did buy it for travel but then I just kept using my full frame a7iv ahahahah so I defeated the point I now have the XT5 and loving it, I now leave my work cameras at home and travel with the fuji
Hi mate! I have been trying to setup the IBIS in video mode but its say off and its gray so not able to switch on.. When I click on it say, not able to on because Auto compensation? Thanks for your help!
Oh that’s weird aye, I’ve never had this happen to me. Look up the code in the bottom right or search auto compensation Sony camera setting And turn it off. If you have more issues send me a DM and I’ll be able to help you out
Hi, I'm considering buying this body and I was wondering if it was worth getting the 18-135 kit with or bare body and taking the other lens with it. Thank you for your reply. 😊
I'm trying to choose between Fujifilm X-H2, X-T5 and Sony A6700 and Panasonic LUMIX S5IIX as my first camera for video production and occasional photography. It's so hard to choose one. Any suggestions?
S5II will be the best option if you have the budget for lenses, also an amazing photo camera, the Fujifilm H2S is an amazing video camera that would be my 2 options bro
I just think you're "spoiled" and didn't make this review/camera as something someone should get that doesn't have 15k+ in cameras and gear already.. no shit you're gonna pick the A7IV over it, even though the A6700 is HELLA close in quality (especially for being almost half the price)
@@gerardneedhamhe is right, I would re-titled video as : Annoying for pro-creators 😅 for anyone else who is not pro - the quality is not 50% better nor everyone pixel peep. This review is for professional users then those who are just happy to take pics for free 😝 this cam gives the most bang for your buck plus lenses are smaller.
Hey, Please do some research with this article from canon www.canon-europe.com/get-inspired/tips-and-techniques/aps-c-vs-full-frame/ It’s is f2.1 in terms of depth of field, it’s doesn’t changed the exposure
@gerardneedham I'm thinking about getting one amd binning off my compact rangefinder I currently use for travelling. I've got a74 too and a7siii, so it's great the batteries match up. Instead of my heavy lenses, considering buying a third party ff one. I think samyang have produced an almost pancake esque lens for full frame. Anyway great video and looking forward to seeing more.
@@DDHDTV The Sony A7CII in APSC mode is 14 megapixels ! The Sony A7CR in APSC mode is 26 megapixels, but the C series is too expensive for what you NOT get !!!
apsc doesnt have the dynamic range or resolution, that for me is a no. You can buy a nearly new a7r2 for 700 dollars. Im sorry but that is just insane.
@@gerardneedham I mean, for me its about the image, Id take the full frame dynamic range over the apsc pretty much every time, unless maybe in a completely controlled lighting situation.
I want to use to make cooking videos indoor. Please suggest a camera and lens that has good shallow depth. I am new to all cameras. I am looking for Sony a6700 but not sure about the lenses which should make the background blur and make videos cinematic and work in low lights as well Thanks Pls help mate!
Pretty much any f1.4 APSC lens will do, also the longer the focus lens the more background blur you get. But in the movies you don’t see them using background blur all the time, most shots are shot at f8 or so
For cooking videos you don't need f1.4 lenses for sure. Due to short shooting distances you will get too narrow depth of field. Apertures f2.8-f5.6 will be your best choice for this scenario. And don't expect any good results in low light (with any cameras). Invest more in studio lights, softboxes, stands etc.
sold all my third party lenses because of the really poor contact with sony bodies. we can't repeat the recent events perfectly and we need a lens that will work well for us.
I looking at the a6700, ev-z1, or fx30 currently. I'm new to cameras but I want to upgrade my headshot youtube videos, what camera and lens would you recommend? Thanks man, I love your production quality.
@@gerardneedham Ah, ok, great! But when it is a cropped sensor, the full-frame lens does not give you the same results as on a full-frame sensor. Thank you for your reply! :-)
Thamks for the reply But i wanted say about eye lash / front focus on human subjects Are the eyes pin sharp? Sorry im french I want to buy the a7iv but i m affraid about auto focus No worries if you don't répond anymore
01:58 I'm not seeing it. I'm looking at these images at 4k and I'm not seeing that the A7IV has any advantage over the A6700. If there is a difference it's so minuscule that it doesn't matter. That doesn't mean the A6700 handles low light better or has equal dynamic range but in this case where light isn't a problem I don't see a measurable difference.
Yeah pretty much, just annoying how they won’t make a pro APSC camera like the Fujifilm H2 or H2S, I own the FX30 which is amazing for video The sensor is amazing but the body and lenses are not there
@@gerardneedham over 1 million dollars a year on apsc cameras.....now thats impressive. Lol what a joke dude, go spend some of that money on classes for photography, and therapy for that ego
i know exactly what lens that is hahaha any thoughts on it? havent seen reviews but was thinking of picking it up cos its available in chinese markets already
sounds like some convenience things wont stop you from changing, but the actual quality you get from this thing... seems to be very close ? @GerardNeedham
Respectfully disagree. The Sony 15/1.4 is smaller then the Sigma 24/2, let alone the 16mm. The Sony 11/1.8 is a small wonder. Both Sigma and Sony have really small high quality wide angle zooms that cannot be matched by full frame lenses. The bodies are smaller to. Adding price, and APS-C is a great small and cheap alternative. I take out my A7r4 for the highest quality and my A6400 for the most fun with APS-C lenses.
APSC lenses are great, I just think Sony needs some more compact f2 primes. How is there no 27mm f2.8 pancake for Sony APSC or a 18mm f2?
The Sony 15mm f1.4 is probably fantastic but still over priced in my opinion
Thanks for the comment, I really enjoyed hearing your opinion
@@gerardneedham Depend. Sony 15mm F1,4 almost twice lighter (any gimbal accepting) and much smaller than Sigma 16.
With perfect sharpness and others futures which Sigma 16 just don't have.
APSC (a6700) bodies and the A7C bodies weigh exactly the same. So forget that.
The Sony 15mm 1.4 costs 630 EUR, which makes it even more expensive than the Sigma 24 2.0
Agree on the Sony 11 1.8. It's really a gem. Unfortunately never had a use for that wide of a focal length myself
@@DDHDTV the A6700 is lighter: 514gr for the A7cII and 493gr for the A6700. But that is so little difference it is almost the same. And yes, the Sigma 24/2.0 is almost €150,- cheaper then the Sony 15/1.4 over here a.t.m., but the A6700 is €700,- cheaper. So, the A6700 with 15/1.4 is €550,- cheaper then the A7cII with the Sigma 24mm.
Yeah, have to love that 11mm and yeah, that 15mm should be cheaper. I feel for a lot of people APS-C is the better compromise. I run both full-frame for "serious work" and APS-C for hikes.
@@gerardneedhamman I have NO IDEA, I don’t know how to get sony to build a 27mm 🫠
A few corrections -
#1 - full frame doesn’t really affect sharpness, but it can effect noise and relative depth of field. Lens quality and pixel density will determine maximum sharpness. So using the same lens at the base ISO you will get slightly more sharpness from the a6700 than the a7 iii or the a7s iii or even the a9 (I, II, or III). What’s probably affecting your sharpness is the sigma lenses, which are great, but not technically amazing compared to Sony G and G Master offerings.
#2 - you aren’t experiencing more missed focus because you are using APS-C lenses, you are experiencing more missed focus because you are using third party lenses with slower stepping focus motors. The Sony G aps-c lenses hold up really well compared to the full frame G lenses (but there are obviously no g master tier lenses in the APS-C world).
As a note, I have the a6700 as well. I pretty much exclusively use it when I’m shooting in dangerous environments (steel fab shops, blast tents, paint bays, etc) - for basically all of my other work I use the a7 IV and my a7s IIIs. I appreciate using the a6700 and cheaper lenses because I’ve had flying chips of molten metal and fine silica particulates destroy lenses (24-70 g master), camera bodies and tripods - so having a cheaper body and lens in those environments is good for my mental health.
Even the Sony 15mm F1.4 fir APSC isn’t amazing when you used to Full frame, my A7IV is much sharper than my a6700 and then I recently used a medium format and that is much sharper, the larger the sensor the more detail you get period
@gerardneedham stop. You're making things up. My 6700 holds its own against my a7r iii with GM lenses.
@@gerardneedham again that’s due to lens quality not the sensor being sharper or something. The a6700, when used with GM glass is sharper than the a7 III OR A7C with the same glass. Certainly more detailed than the a7s III in both photos and videos. My point is that the limiting factor isn’t the “sharpness” of APS-C sensors but rather the glass in front of it. Personally, I basically only use my FF GM glass when I’m shooting with the a6700.
@@gerardneedham also, the auto focus on the 15mm G lens tested quite fast in my experience (which was my only contention in the original post). I don’t currently own one, but I’m not fully sure what you are on about. The 15mm holds up very well compared to some of the FF G glass as well.
your autofocus misses are because of the Sigma Sony combo.....use a Sony lens and you will never miss the autofocus
Yeah probably the lenses are too expensive tho
Just picked up my a6700 as my first camera, and it's been a blast so far, don't think i need ff, the small package of the 6700 is a big plus for me
This camera is epic
What lens did you get?
@@ItsKimestry got the sigma 18-50 as of now, planning to expand my collection
Hello. Is this camera capable of also capturing speeding cars, bicycles, trains etc or will this camera struggle doing so? Thank you
@@R.Es1 It will even capture a rogue UFO having a quick bypass here near the milky way.
Thanks for the update! Agree that the Sigma 16mm f/1.4 largely defeats the point of aps-c because of its size, especially when when compared to smaller full-frame options. The better option for aps-c is the Sony 15mm f/1.4 g lens! It's an identical focal length and DoF as Sigma 24mm f/2 on full-frame, while being smaller and with flawless autofocus performance. Really wish Sony would make a full f/1.4 lineup of G-series primes for aps-c (much like it did for full-frame with the compact 24mm, 40mm, and 50mm g lenses). That would really allow the a6700 to reach its full potential.
Yeah I would also like to see that, a Sony f1.4 and f2 line up that covers 13mm to 90mm
The point of apsc is not always size it's also budget
@@abram7854 that’s true but size is definitely one of the main factors
Sigma 16 is one of the best value for money lenses for APSC line up.....its defn not a travel lens.....the sharpness of that lens is unmatched....you will be amazed by how much crop and editing the pictures/videos shot from that lens can accomodate
" 2:20 "The larger the sensor, the more detail you get when you zoom into the image, or you print an image." What on earth makes you think that is the case?
Tell me that a 100mp smart phone has the same detail as a medium format 100mp sensor. That’s having a larger sensor produces more detail
@@gerardneedhamthe difference between a cellphone sensor and an APS-C sensor has nothing at all in common with the difference between an APS-C sensor and a full-frame sensor. Try comparing the actual things you're talking about.
You may also want to look into what image resolution in the files a "100 megapixel" smartphone sensor is actually producing, because they're measuring things differently than real cameras. A 100 megapixel smartphone sensor will give you, at most, a 25 megapixel image file.
@@StephenStrangwaysI watched this guy before and stopped after two video's. I find he contradicts himself and he says things that a season photographer like myself stop and shake my head. Everyone swears there photographers now! This camera kicks ass and I laugh when I hear full frame fan boys put down apsc. I find RUclips content creators just recycle the same stuff between themselves and try to pass it off as fact. Time to move on to another channel! 🤢
@@gerardneedham what an iconic statement 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Uh... 100 megapixel is 100 megapixel. If there's a difference in detail, it's the glass you're using. An aps-c lens has to be sharper though since the sensor is smaller. A lens might be perfect for full frame, but not sharp enough for aps-c (with same resolution on the sensors)
I was using FX30 for a video job and rented a a6700 for my assistant to do some BTS of me working. The quality is mind blowing. Makes me wonder why should I upgrade to a FF. haha
Yeah the image is awesome
What's annoying is this apsc vs ff debate. Both can be equally productive depending on your needs. This video simply reiterates cliches about these formats - yawn.....
Mmmm, I wish APSC would have better lenses like the quality of full frame 😞
@@gerardneedham They do. Use Sony lenses.
The Sigma 16 f1.4 isn’t that huge. Let’s be honest. Unless your criteria is you MUST be able to put it in your pocket mounted. I can do that with the 30 and the 56.
I am running the a7iv with Sigma 24 f1.4 dg dn now and it’s only a bit bigger but more weight overall.
I wouldn’t say huge, I just want to see smaller f2 APSC lenses like Fujifilm have
Gotta say you have huge pockets. No way I'm getting my a6000 with the Sigma 30 attached in there
I'd like to switch from APSC - Sony A6400 to fullframe, but to be honest... I was about dreaming of having A7IV last year, but when A7C-II came up with A7R-V features, I literally gave up on A7IV, it's like heavier with lack of features... and you don't buy a camera every year, so.. having additional features you never know when you are going to use, is just better to have... I don't know if it is just better to wait for A7-V in 2024 probably..
had the same "problem" ... i chose a7iv instead of A7C-II cause of the dual cards and the better grip
Mmmm I think the A7IV is the best camera still for Sony, the new features aren’t anything to get super excited about
Don't wait, you'll wait forever. There is always the next big thing coming. The A7V would get what's it's missing now. AI chip and stuff
@@DDHDTV Yeap, thanks guys!
I love my a6700 and my A7IV, the Sigma 16mm isnt that huge compared if you've been working with full frame lenses
It’s a little big in my opinion, but full frame f1.4 are way bigger. I just think they need to update the design
I have been doing a Leica M10-R experiment which taught me about groupthink, fetishes and the perceived sharpness of a photograph.
Now with the A6700 I can breathe normally again. With the SEL20E28 pancake it makes me smile. Grab and snap. It is normal to come home with perfect shots! I already got the SEL11F18 and the Sigma 56mm is stuck in the customs.
Now I'll have to Read The F Manual!
Let’s go, sounds like some fun there
this is sold for my travelling need. plus this kind of camera is dope and super useful for events as well just for parties . photobooth business owners. lots of use.
It really is!
Thank you for the video. Been to Japan many times but never Australia. Live here in the US. I bought a A6700 to try as well. I own many full size full frame Sony cameras but now trying out the A7CII to get a body as small and with the same great sensor as the A7IV which I sold last year. Take a look at it. I’m impressed with its upgraded features over the A7IV even with only one card slot. I do use both Sigma I-Series and the Sony small G lenses on the A7CII to keep it small. On APS-C really like 15mm f;1.4 G Sony. Take care.
Awesome that a7Cii looks great and you have better compact lens options for Full frame than APSC
@@gerardneedham Set the A7CII next to the a6700, you have to look hard to tell the difference. I frequently pick up my a6700 by mistake, thinking it is my A7CR. If I was to rate the build quality of my cameras vs the A74, I would give it to my A7R3. That camera body is a tank, like my 1979 Nikon F2A. But hey, don't drop your camera, treat them like a newborn child and they will last 40 years.
Nice video. The one reason I wouldn't get a6700 is because it's literally the same size as a ZV-E1 for videographers. So for anyone who's starting with APS-C but are definitely planning to go FF in the future, it just makes more sense to future proof with the E1.
Yeah basically, keen to see the zve10 this year
e1 is way more expensive though, i want a budget 6700 like a 6650
full frame would mean buying all ff lens, which are way more expensive and heavy. I think best way for starter is to buy second hand equipment and test if they really like filming or not first before actually making such a big investment
I just downgradef from ff to apsc, the a6700 brings so much cool features with it, that are definitly missing at my a7s3 i think it will be a good combo to pair those two
as far as I can see, the 6700 is twice as expensive as the e1@@kamikazilucas
Thank you Gerard, as always I learnt and enjoyed! Good luck on your photography journey!
My pleasure!
It's a bit silly to expect a6700 to match a74 when a6700 is like $700 cheaper.
Still expensive for an APSC camera, look at what canon and Fuji have done
I thought of getting the Sony A6700, but it lacks a good joystick, the EVF is too small with too low resolution and I got my two Sony A7RIV which I often use in APSC mode with 26 megapixels, so I have actually 4 Cameras in two Camera bodies ! Sony needs to make a more high end APSC Camera with their 40 megapixels APSC sensor which Fuji X cameras use.
100% like the FX30 but just for photography
@@gerardneedham What !?
I agree with going back to the a7iv. My first camera was an a7Siii and I'm completely spoiled. The covid thing made me sell my a7Slll to pay rent, and now I'm getting the a7iv for sure. The a7Slll shot 4k at 120 fps, but only with the CFexpress "A" cards. SDXC is just fine with either the a7Slll OR the a7iv, (4K@60) There was very little difference between the 4K@ 120 and 4K@60, which made the 200.00 CF Express "A" card superfluous. -Thanks for the hard work and generosity to share your findings...
A7siii camera slaps, but you can record 4K 120fps with SD cards, you just need V90 if you record in S4K codec
If you miss your A7S3 I'd recommend checking out the ZV-E1 before you purchase the A74... coming from an A74 owner :)
I’m Little confused, FE lenses are fullly compatible with E mount (aps-c) cameras. Not sure why one would need specific aps-c lenses when a pre-existing FE kit was available. Same for aperture specifications, an f/1.4 FE lens is still a f/1.4 lens on a aps-c body. The internal focus specifications may affect their individual performance. Same deal with bokeh and detail, as you wonderfully described 😁
Yeah you can use Full frame lenses on Sony APSC cameras no problem, you can also use APSC lenses on Full frame with quality loss, but not major.
APSC lenses are just much cheaper than full frame
while price doesn't really matter when you can afford it, i'll say weight is a dealbreaker for some.
for example:
280g - Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN | C
371g - Sony FE 85mm f/1.8
the cropped lens is about 100g lighter, feel like nothing on paper, but carrying it, even a 50g matter, and that's only a f1.8 glass.
If we're talking about 1.4 head to head:
280g - Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN | C
820g - Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM
plus the body itself you save tons of weight
With an APS-C you have the option to use all lenses, also the full frame lenses.
Literally I like and love yours and Mitch made Japan content, but when I met this Australian-Japanese photographer Teo Crawford, I love his Japan content but way too long. 😅 Literally you guys made my day cause it's my dad's home. So I just wish if I gonna live in Japan soon I hope I can close with you and Mitch Lally. 😍🥰
Thanks, more Japan content to come
@@gerardneedham cool, thanks. haha
Dammit you you might have sold me mate. Seems like the logical step up from what I have been using. Cheers buddy.
Awesome glad I could help
And then 98% of all pixel peeps use it only to post on social media and RUclips…
I personally think ASPC is what most of all people need. Who can afford FF will benefit not much as will pay for that benefit.
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There is nothing annoying about APSC, if you know what you're doing, and why.
If you come from ff APSC can be a big annoying unless it’s a Fujifilm
@@gerardneedham I came from A7C and A7IV to the A6700, and I'm perfectly happy. I don't need 40MP for video, nor do I need it for pictures.
I'm thrilled, that my foto bag is tiny, and even with a fairly hefty Viltrox lens, it all fits .
Full frame is not objectively better than crop frame, it depends how and for what you need it.
Heavily agree with your take on the Sigma 16 1.4. Been using it for ages and never really got warm with it.
The Sigma 23 1.4 is the reason I'm switching to full frame now. Was waiting for a 35mm equivalent, and when I saw how big and heavy it is (also kinda expensive), I started thinking about FF.
After our Japan trip, I decided to reduce the kit even further, by using zoom lenses (18-50 2.8) but was not impressed. Well, got my hands on the Sigma 28-70 on an A7C in Japan and was blown away after I saw the pictures at home on the big screen. My APSC sigma lenses where never that sharp.
Yeah I feel the same way, APSC lenses are just not it, the 23mm from sigma is a pretty awesome lens tho
Professional photography best portrait lens for Sony a6700 .????
Thoughts on upgrading from an A6000 to either an A6700 or A7R III? If you had to choose which one?
Probably the a6700 as you can keep using you APSC lenses, also better video quality if you want that.
@@gerardneedham I see a A7RIII for 1k flat and im not too deep into the lenses yet, only got 2
@@SimpTooth You can use your APS lenses on the ATRIII. What are your subjects? For outdoor action it is A6700 with the 18-135 zoom. (or Eq.) For portraits and landscape, go for the full frame.
A6700 used @2:06? Also, which lens was used for that clip?
Credible use case review, Gerard - video, 3rd party lens performance a matter of personal preference. Same for pro considerations, like 1 SD card. Valuable heat dissipation tips,a plus. “Secret lens” a tease😊; cute “like button double tap” advice (how about 3 times?😂). Subtle product promotions.
Might other (brand) lenses bring you back? Viltrox, for example, or high end Sony glass.
Compared to days used, does your shutter count for A6700 come close to count for A74? Have you considered A7C2?
Daring host asks model to spread her legs and RUclips lets it pass - nice😊.
Almost 6k subs - 🎉.
No “typo police” nit picks for this post.😊Cheers!
Ahahahah no typos this time ahahahaha, I didn’t even think about the model part 😅 never crossed my mind
Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 or
Tameron 17-70 f2.8 ?
For this camera 😅
Probably the sigma but I tend not to use zooms on APSC cameras
@@gerardneedham then the SIGMA trio will be better then Tamron 17-70
i already have 30/1.4 sigma
bit of a confused position
wish i had enough money :')
Can i use 85mm 1.4 sigma on this camera
Yeah for sure it’s almost like a 135mm full frame
Hay my first camera for sony a6700 which one best portrait lens sigma 56mm f1.4 is good please.!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you have full frame cameras then I see no reason to have an additional APS-C setup, makes no economic sense. I think this camera system is for travel photographers and vloggers, if I was starting out again I'm not sure I'd go full frame when there are so many great lenses for APS-C
Yeah I did buy it for travel but then I just kept using my full frame a7iv ahahahah so I defeated the point
I now have the XT5 and loving it, I now leave my work cameras at home and travel with the fuji
@@gerardneedham What is it that you like more about the Fuji? Thanks
Sold mine today w/5 lenses. Stick with my 2 a1’s
What did you move over to?
@@frostgodx have 2 A1’s and using Pocket 3 and Osmo 4
Wow what a set up mate
Hi mate! I have been trying to setup the IBIS in video mode but its say off and its gray so not able to switch on.. When I click on it say, not able to on because Auto compensation? Thanks for your help!
Oh that’s weird aye, I’ve never had this happen to me.
Look up the code in the bottom right or search auto compensation Sony camera setting
And turn it off.
If you have more issues send me a DM and I’ll be able to help you out
Hi, I'm considering buying this body and I was wondering if it was worth getting the 18-135 kit with or bare body and taking the other lens with it. Thank you for your reply. 😊
100% like not everyone need low Aperture lenses and shooting at f8 is a great way to improve your photography
I'm curious about what you say is "the look" of apsc that you dont like... can you explain what exactly you mean by "the look"? thanks
Just the depth you get from FF or medium format, you also get more colour depth
But that’s not a reason to not buy a APSC camera
I'm trying to choose between Fujifilm X-H2, X-T5 and Sony A6700 and Panasonic LUMIX S5IIX as my first camera for video production and occasional photography. It's so hard to choose one. Any suggestions?
S5II will be the best option if you have the budget for lenses, also an amazing photo camera, the Fujifilm H2S is an amazing video camera that would be my 2 options bro
Great work! Just a question, does the lack of a joystick cause problems in auto focusing? My use is for wildlife.
Nah, I just use the tracking box and keep it in the center
I would not get a camera that lacks a good joystick !
@@cameraprepper7938a6700 af is so good you almost never have to select focus and if you have to there's a touch screen.
im still on a a6300 since i cant afford anything else even though im so annoyed that recording video in 4k 30 crops the image and 4k24 is too stuttery
Yeah that’s not ideal but work with what you have and focus on lighting, composition, telling a story and then upgrade when you can
6:30 why not remove the lens also for some cooling effect 😂
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Is it good for product photography and videography?
yup 100%
solid work!
Thanks mate
Fuji Xs20 vs Sony a6700 which one is good in overall terms?
Yeah the XS20 slaps, I think I might buy the XT5 though
What lenses do you recommend for this camera ?
I love the sigma APSC primes, so the 16, 23, 30mm and the 56mm I also love the viltrox 13mm for something a little wider
You can also use full frame Lenses for Sony, there are many compact full frame Lenses with excellent optical image quality.
I just think you're "spoiled" and didn't make this review/camera as something someone should get that doesn't have 15k+ in cameras and gear already.. no shit you're gonna pick the A7IV over it, even though the A6700 is HELLA close in quality (especially for being almost half the price)
Yeah I’m spoiled for sure ahahaha, I just want a Sony APSC that’s like my a7iv with good lenses
@@gerardneedhamhe is right, I would re-titled video as : Annoying for pro-creators 😅 for anyone else who is not pro - the quality is not 50% better nor everyone pixel peep. This review is for professional users then those who are just happy to take pics for free 😝 this cam gives the most bang for your buck plus lenses are smaller.
Useful video thank you. Will look at the Fuji too.
we really wanna know about photography and videography and this dude be sayin ''Secret Lens''
That’s me heheh, it’s now on my website the TT art 35mm f1.4
7:52 , F1,4 (not F2,1) will be same for crop censor. Please make research . Thank you.
Hey, Please do some research with this article from canon www.canon-europe.com/get-inspired/tips-and-techniques/aps-c-vs-full-frame/
It’s is f2.1 in terms of depth of field, it’s doesn’t changed the exposure
@@gerardneedham To much to read...you can make a test yourself, then argue.
@@alexgoriatchenkovthe more you talk, the dumber you are
why not pop a wider full frame lens on it?
Works well, but if I’m going to use heavy full frame lenses on a small APSC body I’m better off just using my A7IV
@gerardneedham I'm thinking about getting one amd binning off my compact rangefinder I currently use for travelling. I've got a74 too and a7siii, so it's great the batteries match up. Instead of my heavy lenses, considering buying a third party ff one. I think samyang have produced an almost pancake esque lens for full frame. Anyway great video and looking forward to seeing more.
Great work, thank you!
Thank you too!
Hi, between Sony a6700 vs Sony a7C 2 (for both Foto and Video) with one do you think is better ?
If you have the money, just go A7C2. You can always use crop mode and then you essentially have an a6700 .
Only missing 4k120,
@@DDHDTV Sony a7C 2 for sure
They are about the same, it really depends if you want/need full frame
@@DDHDTV The Sony A7CII in APSC mode is 14 megapixels ! The Sony A7CR in APSC mode is 26 megapixels, but the C series is too expensive for what you NOT get !!!
DO people agree? full frame glass has better clarity on APS ??
Yeah for sure but some APSC lenses are better than cheaper ff lenses
@@gerardneedham oh... i didnt know that
thought was same same
Since most cheap glass has better sharpness in the middle than on the sides, yes - since you‘re cropping out the softer bits.
@@arminbreuer7968 thats cool!
apsc doesnt have the dynamic range or resolution, that for me is a no. You can buy a nearly new a7r2 for 700 dollars. Im sorry but that is just insane.
Yeah but who needs all that
@@gerardneedham I mean, for me its about the image, Id take the full frame dynamic range over the apsc pretty much every time, unless maybe in a completely controlled lighting situation.
Nice vid thanks! Subbed.
Thanks for the sub! 😊
I want to use to make cooking videos indoor. Please suggest a camera and lens that has good shallow depth. I am new to all cameras. I am looking for Sony a6700 but not sure about the lenses which should make the background blur and make videos cinematic and work in low lights as well
Thanks
Pls help mate!
Pretty much any f1.4 APSC lens will do, also the longer the focus lens the more background blur you get. But in the movies you don’t see them using background blur all the time, most shots are shot at f8 or so
For cooking videos you don't need f1.4 lenses for sure. Due to short shooting distances you will get too narrow depth of field. Apertures f2.8-f5.6 will be your best choice for this scenario. And don't expect any good results in low light (with any cameras). Invest more in studio lights, softboxes, stands etc.
sold all my third party lenses because of the really poor contact with sony bodies. we can't repeat the recent events perfectly and we need a lens that will work well for us.
I looking at the a6700, ev-z1, or fx30 currently. I'm new to cameras but I want to upgrade my headshot youtube videos, what camera and lens would you recommend? Thanks man, I love your production quality.
I think a second hand fx30 with the viltrox 13mm or the sigma 16mm for a not so wide look, that’s the perfect combo
@@gerardneedhamthanks for the suggestion.
Thanks for the video. I find the size perfect for me. Now deciding between a6700 and a7cii
Epic mate they are similar sizes but full frame lenses are quick big
What would you choose between a6700 and a7c ?
A6700 as it has slog 3, but I would prefer the a7cii because of full frame lenses
@@gerardneedham no i mean a7c1 that has the same price as a6700
Of course a7cii is better i wanted to know whats your opinion about a7c1 vs a6700
@@ashkanoladia6700 hands down. color science on a7c 1 and the 8 bit limitation is harsh
@gerard needham - do you use photoshop or one of the alternative editing pieces of software? tyia
Hey I use luminar AÍ, it’s linked in the description under how I retouched skin
What about 7C?
You can use fullframe lenses on the a6700?
Yup no problem I do it all the time
@@gerardneedham Ah, ok, great! But when it is a cropped sensor, the full-frame lens does not give you the same results as on a full-frame sensor. Thank you for your reply! :-)
Hi!
do you encounter front focus on your a7iv ?
Thanks
Nope not a single focus issue
Thamks for the reply
But i wanted say about eye lash / front focus on human subjects
Are the eyes pin sharp?
Sorry im french
I want to buy the a7iv but i m affraid about auto focus
No worries if you don't répond anymore
Do you recommend the a6700 over a full frame? Nice video!
depends what you’re doing long term, i have a 6700 currently and im selling just because I rather invest the money on full frame.
Really depends if you want to do this as a job or fun, APSC does an amazing job but I use full frame for work
very disappointed that sony took away the intervalometer input, stupid
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Sony a6700 our fujifilm XT 5?
The a6700 is a much better camera, but I enjoy using the XT5 even better than my full frame Sonys
01:58 I'm not seeing it. I'm looking at these images at 4k and I'm not seeing that the A7IV has any advantage over the A6700. If there is a difference it's so minuscule that it doesn't matter. That doesn't mean the A6700 handles low light better or has equal dynamic range but in this case where light isn't a problem I don't see a measurable difference.
If it’s lit well would won’t see the difference no
It’s over heats and it’s stalls out sometimes, very risky camera for long shoots…..decent camera but not the best
No problems on my end
Shot at 4k/60 and was only able to shoot 9-15mins then it overheated.
Lols, who wants to shoot longer than that
What's the lens??
What part of the video are you referring too
why does EVERY photography youtuber live in japan?
Ahahahah I live in Australia, just go there every year
Looks like you went out of your way just to belittle a physically small sensor camera
Yeah pretty much, just annoying how they won’t make a pro APSC camera like the Fujifilm H2 or H2S, I own the FX30 which is amazing for video
The sensor is amazing but the body and lenses are not there
Which camera and lens did you use to make this video?
Time : 4:18
Sigma 23mm all shot on the a6700
Which camera and lens did u use @6:20
Sigma 56
Sigma 56mm
Soy a6700 vs Fuji xs20
That would be a good video
why is it secret lense
Ahahahah it wasn’t realised before I published the video
There is a link below also
Overheating issue????,😮😮😮😮😮😮
Nah I said that towards the end of the video
Oh I had to stop before you described the issue, oh I subscribed too by the way!😊
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lol, kindly, you dont know what the f you are talking about.
Lol I probably make more money with photography in a month than your yearly salary 😊
@@gerardneedham over 1 million dollars a year on apsc cameras.....now thats impressive. Lol what a joke dude, go spend some of that money on classes for photography, and therapy for that ego
can we talk also about the quality of that lady? felt in love instantly
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it overheats fast
I’ve had no issues, maybe you need to practice ways to reduce heat like any camera
i shoot 4k 120 im in fl so maybe @@gerardneedham
Pfff... BS.
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Apsc users so defensive in the comments
Secret lens?
You’ll see soon
i know exactly what lens that is hahaha any thoughts on it? havent seen reviews but was thinking of picking it up cos its available in chinese markets already
Is that your Chinese Gf?
No lol, just a friend
LOL....
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Lots of Love ❤️, thank you 🙏
sounds like some convenience things wont stop you from changing, but the actual quality you get from this thing... seems to be very close ? @GerardNeedham
Yeah ☺️