I can hear audio opinions from anyone but I truly enjoy and benefit from your videos because you have a nack for educating us along our audiophile journey. This one is a great example. Thank you.
I've recently purchased these bad boys. Couldn't be happier with that decision. 5 stars from me! I'm no hifi expert but I now enjoy music listening on a whole new level than ever before!
So glad to hear you talk about the timimg issue. This is one aspect that is ignored too often in speakers. Contrary to alot of people's opinions, it is audible when done right.
Your technical approach is always inspiring, specially, in this case, the explanation on the differences between the dispersion of horns and "normal" tweeters. Learned a lot! Thanks!
Hello, Thank you for this very interesting video and description. I've had a pair of quartets in Genese for 5 years now and I'm very happy with them too. I have made a few small modifications to improve them.. I asked a technician to modify the filters by removing the poliswitches, I changed the capacitors, and rewired the internal wiring. Today they sing wonderfully associated with a musical fidelity msi5 and a nad c658. Now I am very happy with the result .
Hi mate! I have these speakers too and thinking about the tuning. Can you give me your email address? I would like to get more technical details from you! Thank you!
Useful comparisons and appreciated that you explained the amp pairings too - wish more reviewers were more specific about the pairings they used to evaluate gear.
Tarun is a guide and he is here to aid you in what may be a difficult choice. Speakers can make or break a system’s voice, so being well informed is key to not making a poor choice. Be mindful and listen well to what Tarun says. This could prevent a poor decision which you will regret. Try finding a dealer which will allow you an audition at home as this is the best way to really know for sure what you are getting. That may be difficult to find, but it would be worth it. Stay safe mates!😊👍🏻😷
A British Audiophile, right now I’m reorganizing my life and removing excess. Getting ready for life’s next round and trying to stay positive. Hope for the best, do what you can do and let God do His will. Stay safe all! 😊👍🏻😷
Thanks for the comparative impressions. It makes all the difference and I hope more reviewers do the same to provide context to their evaluations. Their pros and cons are typical floorstanders vs bookshelfs at the same price range 👍. Great review as always :) .
Good review detailing the tradeoffs inherent in the HiFi pursuit. I agree they look great with the grills on, I disagree that they don't look as good sans grills. I find the industrial design / styling of the drivers, port, and base above average. Details like the silver badge tie it all together into an elegant result.
Hi Tarun! I own the exact speakers in piano black finish. I have conpared them to a couple of more expensive speakers, harbeth, sonus faber, and prefered the triangle quartet. I own them for about 3 years and I would only change them with speakers in the top range from triangle, the magellan series. I think they are very fast, detailed and fun speakers. Your review was as always spot on. Also i really enjoyed the video with the dac power supply. I own a chord hugo2 and I am really temped to try a high end power source. Best regards!
I just got the borea triangle br03s ...they sound amazing out of the box...no break-in time....gorgeous designed speakers....awesome reviews....Thank You Tarun....
Oh man, in my opinion their Borea line of speakers are the best speakers they ever produced. You can't find their tonality even up to 5k a pair, only think that comes close is the Focal Aria lineup.
Very interesting Narekaci. I am reviewing the Trios next. They potentially could have many of the Quartets qualities but without the drawbacks. Much earlier to integrate 2 drivers than 4. I am keen to find out. I was reluctant to review the Boreas as there are so many reviews already out there. I may have to rethink this if the Trios turn out to be any good. It may be interesting to see how they compare to the Trios but I am getting ahead of myself 🤔
@@abritishaudiophile7314 I have had the pleasure of trying the Trios and they can be considered as a upgrade to the BR03. However, their tone is still a bit different, due to being horn loaded tweeters instead of Borea's soft dome. I would recommend a listen of the BR03.
Tarun, Really enjoy your posts. Recently got a Jern 14 speakers for my home office, very satisfied with it. Smooth sound with good imaging and staging. Just listen to them, when you have a moment.
Hi Bijil, they are good guys at Triangle. Really pleasant to deal with, very supportive in providing information. I have the Trios in for review and I wouldn’t mind taking a look at the Borea’s as well.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 The BR09 are really nice and what started my hifi journey, but compared to the quartet, they are a league behind. I thought I needed to A/B test the two speakers - to decide what to keep, but After a quick listen to the quartets, I never got around to turning back on the BR09's :-)
after seeing youre review of these i got a very good deal on their bigger version,the genese lyrr,very pleased with them so far,they seem a little bass light but as they are new i hope and expect this will improve over time and use,i ue them with a naim uniti and a naim power amp as well and i find them open,fast and detailed,love the way they handle acoustic music
Thanks Tarun. Beautiful and unique speakers. I have a pair of Triangle Borea Br03. A really excellent speaker in it's price range. One oddity, the hole in the binding post screw on caps have a hole in the end supposedly to allow a banana plug to enter. The problem is that the hole is .010" too small to allow the passage of a banana connector. You can remove the cap to fit bananas or do as I did, and drill out the hole to .171". I chamfered the hole as long as I was at it. I have no idea why this anomaly exists but it might help explain Peugeots. .
@@abritishaudiophile7314 The contrarian in me wants to find fault with equipment that is rave reviewed. I have to say in the case of the Bro3, when paired with the right gear, the speaker is just amazing.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 l heard them at the NYaudio show, and was struck by the sweetness of the sound. Will buy a pair down the line. Right now, working with JBL and Vandersteen.
They are INCREDIBLE for orchestral music, for everything else, they are ok. I listen to mainly rock, anf I returned them for a pair of Focal Aria 926, now those are true rock and roll speakers.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 No Tarun thank you! You are one of the few audio reviewers I look forward to watch and listen too. I believe I know when someone is honest and has good integrity.👍😊
Hi Tarun! I read in many magazines and youtube videos over the years that Triangle speakers have a very distinctive sound and look, but sadly, I never had the opportunity to listen to any of them. I certainly would love to have a listen if just to judge for myself how they sound! Great review! Thanks!
I'm in love with the brand. They have an enjoyable sound. Plus their support team is amazing. After buying 2 sets of speakers from them. I wanted to upgrade the little borea Br02 crossover. I asked them the values for the coils and they gave me the answer. Amazing ! They're the only brand with beyerdynamic that are not afraid to respond those type of questions. They're confident enough and they make their own drivers so no fear of copycats. Nice video Tarun !
Hi yannick930, I am not surprised. They are amongst the nicest and most responsive bunch of people I have had the pleasure of dealing with up to now. Up to an including their GM. Lovely tonality to these Genese Quartets too.
Hello Tarun, I hope I wrote your name correctly. I came across your channel recently while researching for a new pair of HiFi speakers, and I'm glad I did. So thank you for all the time, research, energy, and effort you do so that the likes of me can make an informed decision before purchasing a set of speakers and other high end electronics. I'm not an audiophile, and don't know much about the technical aspects of neither speakers nor amplifiers. I'm just a simple guy who enjoy good music. In that regard I'm learning a whole lot from watching your videos. I want to upgrade and try a different brand. Hence why I'm interested in Triangle, but hesitating between the Genese Quartet and the Delta Signature. Their design appeals to my senses. Where I live the Delta cost 6000€ whereas the Quartet is half the price, but they are hard to get hold of. I'll have to order them from abroad, which deprives of the chance of listening to them before I can decide. I've had the chance to listen to the Delta, let me just say that the richness of the sound spoke to my soul! In your review of the Quartets you say that they are all about "tonality, dynamics, and engagement." You also touched on clarity and resolution being sacrificed as a result. Quartet is in the high mid range of the Genese lineup, can lack of clarity and resolution be justified at this price bracket from such a household name, or is this a matter of taste? Have you had the chance to review the Delta, did you notice the same clarity and resolution issues? I know they are worlds apart, but is the difference in technical details, material and sound quality worth the price difference? Given your extensive knowledge, your insight would greatly be appreciated, and your opinion even more so. Warm regards, Saxe
Thank you Saxe. It is great to have feedback like that. Quite often a fuller, richer sound comes at the expense of clarity. You can have both but that comes with increased cost. I haven’t heard the Signatures but I suspect they will have greater clarity. The Genese is an older design. You may be interested in watching my review of the 40th Anniversary Cométe which has more modern driver. They do the Antal floorstander version too. Link below 👍😊👍 ruclips.net/video/39R1cHwCrTw/видео.html
I would like to add "not for every room" as the tweeters are very sweet sounding provided there's enough room height and preferably also a rug on the floor and something absorbing on the ceiling is mandatory if the height is lower than 2,5 x the height of the Quartets. In the room this video was shot in it is easy to hear that it has acoustical problems (way to long RT60 and most likely a lot of flutter echo as well)
I own the Genese Quartets and love them, but I cannot agree with them being forgiving in terms of room acoustics. In nordic hoses with relatively moderate ceiling heights the height of the Quartets places the horn tweeter almost mid way between floor and ceiling and if both are hard surfaces (hardwood, painted wood, plaster) the reflections arrive almost simultaneously and at a too high level and causes smearing and an unpleasant hardness. A nice rug and ecophon solo on the ceiling made for a small miracle. Also, bi-amping is a must if using ie AV-receivers or other moderately current capable amps to power them
Lovely looking speaker, but I'm not sure they would suit my 16' X 11' 6" room. The fact that they reach down to 35htz sounds like they would be ideal for me, if my room is large enough. 1m out from the wall may be to intrusive in my room. Good review yet again Tarun.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 It's finding a speaker that digs so deep with the bass that's the hard part. So far PMC's Twenty5.26 seems to fit the part, but at almost 9 grand it's out of my price range. As you know I do love that deep bass.
@Anthony Martino way too large for my 16 X 11.6 room but sound interesting. I live in the UK so that could also be an issue. My budget is around £3000 so a good pair of second hand high end PMC, Proac or Spendor may be a better option for me.
Hi P W, I am looking forward to reviewing the Trios. It is possible that they may have many of the qualities without some of the drawback. Much earlier to integrate two drivers than four. Would be interesting to find out 🤔👍👍
Hi Bro 👋 Presently iam using Atc Scm 40 Floor Stander Speakers for the last Nine years Exactly" So if i upgrade to Triangle Australe Ez will be a better choice your feedback please
I had a pair of “knock off” brand speakers that had a similar driver setup. It also had the kind of sound you described, though with more issues due to port location and cabinet resonances.
I do alot of pro sound setups, and from my humble expertise, using a Compression HF causes the sound to be thrown a extra couple of feet futher. So what I am saying is that you should add a extra meter or two to your listening test position from the speaker. hope this help.
Thanks for the review. I have a longstanding relationship with Triangle and still have a pair of Cometes and a TE60 stuffed up in the loft. There was something about the fun factor of their gear that stopped me discarding those units when I upgraded my system past their level, many years ago. Triangle do seem to aim towards a dense and pungent sound but have you considered the environment of your system? Just my opinion but it looks like your room might need some additional damping. Also, I've never received such true musical benefit as when I invested in purer mains and vibration control. I don't know if you've experimented in that area but I only ( after 25 years of gear in and out ) achieved true musical satisfaction once I invested into improving the environment of my system. I honestly think it is worthwhile spending as much on the vibration suppression, mains and cabling as on the system. I'd much rather have a system with £5000 spent on the above and the same on the 'core' components than £10,000 spent on just CD, amp and speakers, with minimal investment in what surrounds, supports and feeds that system. Endlessly upgrading electronics and speakers only brought some ( admittedly very welcome and necessary ) 'hifi' improvements ( resolution, tonality, definition, soundstaging ) but improving the environment made the music sensical and relatable, which I believe is the core of musical enjoyment. For lack of a better way of putting it, the 'soul' of music really only arrived then and I can swap in and out gear belonging to friends and the musical 'core' is always accessible. Anyway, perhaps you are completely happy with your system as is but thought I'd throw in my twopence. Sorry if I sound like a reviewer for HiFi+ but that's my honest experience. Thanks for an enjoyable channel and all the effort you put in.
Let me start by saying I have no personal or commercial relationship with the company I am about to mention to you. My only relationship with them is as a satisfied consumer. Absolutely agree that clean AC and vibration damping of equipment are an audible improvement. I'm also that guy who hears the effects of the CD Stoplight clearly. Acoustic Fields has a very informative series of you tube videos and other resources dealing with room acoustics. You might enjoy them.
@@legrandmaitre7112 I meant the music came together, as a whole, that made the intention of the music 'make sense' and made it easier for me to relate to the intention of the music being communicated to me. I wasn't improving individual, elements such as 'resolution,' 'tone', 'dynamics,' 'bass extension,' ect. I was improving the overall effect it had on me.
Thank you for the review. How was shipping? Any damage problems? I am a bit nervous about ordering electronic gear through delivery service, but these and a few other of the Triangle models seem like a great deal. You mentioned wide vs. narrow disbursement speakers this is what I am battling now in choosing the "best educational guess" in speaker design for my 17'Wx29'Lx6'H drop ceiling. I anticipate any speaker being about 7 to 8 feet apart from one another and about 2 to 3 feet away from side walls. So far I love the Klipsch Forte III's but their very wide disbursement nature may not work. Thoughts? I looked at the Fyne Audio F502 w/ concentric compression tweeter driver in what I guess is a narrow disbursement speaker, that may be better suited for the room, that is until I watched this video. Suggestions? I also demoed the Focal Chora 826, yes not a horn (my favorite type of speaker) but still it has a high efficiency rating (equally as important to me as horns) but it may be a wide disbursement speaker too, as I heard it extending to the side cabinets strongly. Your thoughts? Stay Healthy. Cheers.
Hi Mark, they arrived on a pallet directly from France perfectly intact. I haven’t heard the Fyne Audio F502. If you love the Klipsch Forte III, I would go with them.
Another excellent review Tarun, many thanks and this time a review of something I've never heard of, but these speakers do sound like my kind of kit. I wonder how they'd match up to my 350W (per channel) vintage Bi-Apm set-up. An interesting prospect methinks.
I really like your format for these reviews. By providing *adjacent* pros and cons of individual characteristics, you answer the same questions that pop into my head in real time. There are a couple of questions that come to mind. Does the tweeter placement put it above ear level in a typical arrangement, and does that have an effect? Does the grille cloth make a substantial difference in sound qualities? (It is a pretty/awfully ugly speaker without the grille.) I'm glad of the selection of driver amplifiers you have. To me, this can be the most important aspect of a review: should I have to buy a different amp to accomodate a set of speakers? I tend to admire Triangle's design features as regards driver surrounds and cone surfaces. You inspire me to want to hear them, but not to buy them without hearing them. That's a good thing.
Hi Jim, I appreciate your support and it is good to hear from. I suspect the acoustic centre of the speaker is somewhere between the tweeter and midrange. Still, higher than most people’s listening height. Not a problem unless you are within 2 and half meters distance from the speakers. The definitely do sound better with the grills off. It isn’t heaven and earth but noticeable al the same. Thankfully the grills are magnetic and easy to remove 🧲 Thank you for watching and commenting 😉👍
thank you for another clearly and obviously informed opinion. Its much appreciated. I know its impossible to review every active speaker, but I've been considering the edifier s 3000 pro. Do you have an opinion on that speaker? Thank you again for the great work.
There were no significant cabinet resonances at the volumes I played them at. They have quite a lot of internal bracing. I suspect the drivers are quite light. Thank you for watching 😉
Hi Tarun, Greetings from Vienna. I was following many of your Reviews and got inspired to look into buying a mid range Amplifier. I still do not understand how to match my speakers with the rating of the Amplifier. I have two Canton Chrono 509 DC speakers . The speakers shows a rating of 4-8 Ohm, 160/320Watt . My question is what power rating shall I look for in an Amplifier for these speakers. If I have to match with 160watt as a minimum then its a expensive beast, which I cannot afford now. Currently I am using a Onkyo TX -Nr 636 AV (rating 60W) to drive these speakers and I guess there is big room for improvement. Can you suggest me some amplifiers for these speakers in a 1000-1500euro range.
Hi Barun, thank you for watching and your kind words of support. I haven’t heard that speaker I am afraid. There are many good choice of amplifiers that will work with a wide range of speakers at that price. It will come down to a matter of personal taste. Some to consider... Hegel H95 Naim Nait 5Si Rega Elex R Audiolab 8300A Roksan Kandy K3 Good luck 😉👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks Tarun. Just saw your review of M10. Seems like the best fit to what I want to have. Unfortunately its costs a fortune ad can't afford it in short term. :)
Hi and thanks for a good and detailed review. can you please tell me the difference between Triangle and Monitor audio preferably silver model? Thanks just bought the silver 500 5.1 6G and i find them to be harsh and to bright and lacking base, i drive them with Marantz sr7015. The store tells me that i need to burn them in for 100h and have now burned them in for 20h and no big change, thinking of returning them. appreciate your feedback
Hi Raphy, some of the MA speakers can be a little bright. The sound will improve with run-in but normally does not change the overall tonality that much. I would send them back. I haven’t done an AB comparison between MA and Triangle. Good luck 😊👍
Nice review again. 2 woofers of 160mm means 201 sq cm between them, which converts to a single 22.6 cm diameter woofer (8.9"). Are two better than one bigger? As they are parallel, there is an impedance issue, but they will be faster, more precise that the inertia of a larger one. As to the "horny" character (pardon my intended pun), toe in beyond straight at your ears gives a wider listening position optimum and is especially convenient when the horns are at their best when the edge of the sonic cone touches your ear, not the center. As to the woolly nature, at 1.23 m high, they seem rather high for a relaxed listening position. As to the impedance going low, their crossover was designed to break apart for bi-amping - it would be really interesting to discover what the sonic effect would be if you bi-amp these. Note - 160mm is 6.3" not 5.5" = there are 25.4 mm in an inch. When you go decimal, then note that units are chosen by the experience depending on context. In the imperial system you do that too. You walk 5 kilometers, have a car 4.4m long, have a height of 1m86 m (i.e. 1 m and 86 cm). Also, when we use a unit, we imply a level of precision. "1230 mm high" means "between 1229.5 mm and 1230.5 mm high". The mm unit is used in construction cases. When we describe smaller things, we move to cm and for the tine to mm, etc.
Hi there buddy. I was wondering can have also a set of a old pair of B&W DM 602 Bookshelf speaker. I was wondering what integrated amplifier do you think would be a decent pairing with the speakers I was thinking of buying a second IOTAVX SA3 but I was considering a Yamaha I will also consider any other brand if you would recommend as well Thank you very much for your advice and help
Hi Felix, B&W speakers can be a little on the bright side of neutral. I have always enjoyed their sound with Arcam amplifiers as the warmth of the Arcam combines well with the dry and slightly sharp presentation of the B&Ws to provide a balanced sound. Just my personal opinion though. In the end it is just a matter of personal, taste.
Hi Felix, should be a good choice. You could save a bit by going for the SA10 or even the previous A19. I have heard the A19 as it was quite a special little amplifier at it’s price.
I am wondering how would the big brother Genese Lyrr sounds like? Have you heard of them? Are they similar to Quartet? Can't find any video review of them. Any great review! Love it
Great review and love the channel, Tarun! I know others have brought this up before but have you considered doing something about the acoustics of your room? I notice how lively it is in every video. My room is treated to deal with both flutter echo and 1st/2nd reflection points. I'm also in a basement with carpet. A few days ago I experimented and removed the absorbers that handle just the flutter echo but left the reflection point absorbers and the tonality of my system instantly became bright and the soundstaging became messy and greatly lost depth and width. I know treatments aren't ideal from a visual standpoint. Are you considering doing any treatments?
Thank you Sean. I appreciate your support and feedback. The room is a touch lively but not as bad as it comes across in the videos. Problems with converting 3.5mm output from mic to usb C to feed my iPad. I am limited to how much treatment I can have in the room as it is a family space. I have my system set up in a semi near field arrangement. Sounds pretty good in the listening position. Good to hear from you and thank you for watching 😉👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 speakers could be apart as much as possible, the room is 6m wide so i can be seated far away from them... iKnow, low ceiling isn't perfect... actually I have an dilemma... I'm about to buy Hegel H190 and I'm not sure which way to go... floorstanders... or maybe Triangle Comète Ez and then, with time (&money) add a pair of subwoofers, thank you so much for your time
Thanks for the review, I’ve ordered the Genese Lyrr in white. What do you think of the build quality? What is the finish like? I would really like to see a comparison of the Genese and the Signature as they look almost identical. It would be interesting to see what you get for the extra money!
Thank you Lee. The Genese are well constructed speakers. The gloss white is nicely finished. Just about to film my review of the Triangle 40th Ann Cométe 😊👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks for the quick reply, I think this may just be the year that triangle become more popular, and rightly so. I’ll definitely watch the Comete review .
A British Audiophile sounds great. You can deliver a great review even on Bose gear! Forgot to mention on our last trend regarding good recordings, I still have to dive into the Lionel Ritchie catalogue. BTW, why don’t you make a video approaching all these different audiophile pressings, Ike these Mofi ultra gain, 1 step, half speed, technical differences between analog and digital masters, how they impact vinyl pressings, etc. Bet you would nail it! Keep going with this great channel. Lastly, all my photo gear has been purchased at Adorama, they are simply second to none!
Thank you Felipe. Your support is much appreciated. I am probably not best placed to talk about vinyl as I have had an all digital system for years. Love the format though. I have just started a relationship with Adorama, I hope they may be able to give me some advice of photography gear for vlogging.
A British Audiophile hey Tarun, I am looking forward for the analysis. I do hear you about vinyl, but I bet you can still deliver in the subject than most of the vinyl “audiophile” channels out there. I do quite a bit of photography, and you’ll be very pleased with Adorama. Very helpful and knowledgeable folks there.
Hello! Your room sounds very live in each video. It may just be your recording setup doing it. If you’re using an Omni mic, you may consider another choice. If I’ve already mentioned this previously I apologize. I only bring it up because your content would be improved with less room sound. One friend to another. Is your room this live when listening? Edit: Very well done, by the way! ✨
Thank you buddy. The room is a touch on the lively side but not as much as it comes across in the video. I use an iPad Pro to film and unlike previous models , it has no 3.5mm connection. Apple Ahhh!!! I have to use a 3.5mm to USB C adapter and they all sound awful. Tried a few. The lavalier mic overloads the audio (to much gain) and the shotgun mic doesn’t have enough gain and picks up too much room sound. Both mics are much better with my sons iPad which has a 3.5mm input. I can’t justify spending a whole lot at the moment in video and audio gear, so not sure what I can do to fix the problem.
A British Audiophile Understood. You’ll get it taken care of down the road. Let me know when you’re ready for reasonably priced suggestions and I’ll try to be helpful. Again... only trying to help your content quality. You always have a good result overall, so forget I said anything till the time is right. Your friend in California, Chuk
Always a pleasure to hear from you my friend. I know that any input you give is always with the best intentions. I would love to hear your suggestions on how I can improve the quality of my videos Chuk. As I have no experience or knowledge in this field. Just learning on the job. 😉👍
Good Morning Tarun , can I request you to make a good and easy to understand video on “ holographic images “ from 2 speakers only, without subs , how can we achieve this experience with budget in mind , your views in this particular method will be very helpful for your viewers as we do believe in your natural talent of describing things in simple and humble way , thanks in advance 🙏
Hi Atri, thank you for the suggestion. Holographic imaging is not easy to achieve. Most systems produce a good left to right soundstage but one that lacks depth. Getting a truly 3D soundstage and precise imaging within it is a shortcoming of 2 channel audio. It can be done with very good quality (expensive) components and a room set up correctly. High end multi channel audio systems do better but are even more expensive and have to be fed with high quality, well mastered multi channel recordings. There are only a handful of those, mainly for demo purposes to showcase what is possible. You might find this link interesting... ruclips.net/video/FU5-ZdprCrc/видео.html
Lovin the the floor-standing review!! :) I know a lot of audiophiles don't like floor-standers maybe their sound it more impressive to the newbie!!?? But to me my floor-standers gave me a more immersive experience than my bookshelves ever did! Maybe its amplifier dependent!!?? I would love to see a review of the Revel Concerta2 F35 speaker and my grail the Sonus Faber Venere S speaker!! Great review though thanks for your work!!
Thank you Chris. I appreciate your support. I did send Harman International an email a couple month back about reviewing their M106s. Time to follow up with a reminder. Thank you for jogging the memory.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 They are Italian I find them to be well rounded, vocals and mid range clear and well presented . I would say just slightly less than being bright. Bass can sometimes dominate due to the downward firing bass unit. I'm running on an old Restek Challenger amp and an old Pioneer SACD player. All of it is around 12 years old and well used.
Sound like a very nice system Cactus. Not much has changed in amplifier tech (except class D) and speaker tech in the last 12 years. I suppose it comes down to what you want to achieve by changing and how much you want to spend.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks for the advice you have just saved me a small fortune. Loving the channel by the way only discovered you about a week ago.
Hi Cactus, that seems like a sensible decision. There is no point spending similar money on gear today than you did 12 years ago. You will need to spend circa 3x more to get a significant improvement and it may not be worth it.
5:10 Never heard proof of a RUclipsr being completely sober when recording a video (or felt the need for it) but you have, very convincingly I might add, provided the evidence for that!
That was a tricky B-roll shot to do on my iPad without a gimbal. It is all about getting your foot position right and keeping your balance. Sat here now with a glass of wine in hand responding to comments 🍷😉
I really thought you were going to end up not liking them. At any rate a thrown forward image and a minimization of side reflections..yeah I do not think would be for me. Kind of disappointing because I have always liked the looks of Triangle. Still enjoying my Sonus Faber Olympica Is paired with McIntosh tubegear.
I am French and lived in the UK for 12 years before. I have had my fare share of French and English speakers, currently owning Focal speakers and I still have some 20 years old Triangle Antal speakers. I tremendously enjoyed the ruthless ATC scm20 when living in the UK.A very good friend there owned your Proac Response 1 SC and I spent many nights listening to those singing beauties. French and British people don't sound the same for sure and the extra politeness of the British can be found in their speakers (may be not ATC). British rooms are not that large on average and I was wondering what is the size of your listening room? If your listening position is close to the back wall, I would expect a slightly muddied sound from this speaker, which could explain some of your impressions. Back in my 3.5m by 4m listening room in the UK, I tried by failed to integrate floorstanding speakers in a satisfactory manner.
Hi les, my room is about just under 4m wide and 8m long. Half way along in widens at the back to about 6m. These speakers are on the large side, I wouldn’t want to try to accommodate anything bigger as they need quite a bit of space around them. I listen about 2.5 to 3m away from the speakers.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 You have a nice room for a pair of floorstanders then! Very good review in any case, I like your combination of scientific and subjective explanations.
Hey buddy I keep coming across a lot of your videos and they’re all very informative you’ve helped me in the past and deciding on simple set ups for my basement and my bedroom all which I am very happy in making those decisions I was wondering what is your current living room set up if you don’t mind me asking I would like to know what amplifier and sources and speakers are you using if you don’t mind me asking unless you have a video That you can direct me to thanks for any information that you can give me
Hi Felix, I did do a video on my room set up when I started my channel last year. The only thing that has changed is that I am running an Auralic Aries Mini as the primary source instead of the Toshiba Notebook. Link below... ruclips.net/video/WRLexTI1ZM8/видео.html
Amazing review as always buddy I have one question that’s off-topic. I wanted to put a small little system together for light and low level listening in my bedroom I was wondering why integrated amplifier would you recommend because I am definitely not going to go with separates and pay a fortune and watch speakers would you recommend I would like to keep the budget under $1500 US for a set of speakers and a simple integrated amplifier thank you so much I would appreciate any advice that you can give me on this
Thank you Felix. Very much appreciated. I would go actives. They take up less space have generally much better grip and control compared to their passive alternatives. Great for low level listening. In the U.K. the choice for me would be easy, Acoustic energy AE1s but I suspect they are better value here than overseas. I also really like the Elac Navis ARB-51 which are more widely available. A bit more than $1,500 but have amplifiers built in. I hope that helps. Thank you for watching 😉👍
A British Audiophile Thank you very much that actually helps tremendously I would’ve never thought of going that direction but it makes more sense takes up less space and less to worry about I really appreciate it I will definitely look into it thank you very much keep up the amazing work buddy enjoy your weekend
Thank you Felix. My next review will be on the active AE1s. May I recommend you watching it. My reasons for suggesting the active route may make more sense after that review. I can’t give too much away at the moment.
Hi anon, there certainly used to be a British sound years ago. Typified by the BBC LS3/5A. It was limited in bass, had a beautiful and natural midrange and rolled of highs. Not sure about a French sound as such. Triangle and Focal are both well known French speaker brands and both sound quite different. Good question. Thank you for watching 😉
They came directly from Triangle in France. Hugo, their GM, told me that they are trying to sort out a U.K. distributor. I would email them directly Vic. Very approachable guys and gals at that company.
Good review, however your USA pricing is way off base. As you mentrioned the new replacement equivilant from Triangle is the Signature Delta at a $9000.00 a pair USA dollars. It is very unlikely that your price shown of $1249.00 each is true. The EZ line Antal speaker that is one step below is $4500.00.
Hi Phil, I took it from the Adorama website. I think the have done a bulk deal with Triangle, hence the low price. Thank you for watching and your feedback 😉
Has nothing to do with ALL horn-loaded tweeter. I have horn-loaded tweeter and the cymbals and strings sound behind the speaker. There is plenty of air, what you do not get is the "echo" feel from the room the recording happens, so it sounds more like your room than some other room.
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I have the complete opposite opinion after a 6h listening session. Its the speakers that sounded boring to me. They did not excite once. These Triangles sounded completely seperated from eachother. They did not work together to create a stage, not even 2D, f.e. the voices came from each speaker and not from a single point between the speakers. Moving them closer to eachother and more off the back wall or moving them entirely did not improve anything. They lacked dynamics as well and no real separation between instruments, no transparancy at all. Furthermore, the buildquality was not excellent. That plastic twinbase port looked cheap, the finish didn't look great eather and the rubbery finish on the tweeter felt sticky. Could be my general expectations are too high for speakers in this price range, since they are only about 2400 euro, but then again, I would not spend that kind of money for the quality I heard.
Apologies, I think sound clips are entertaining but not a reliable way to judge a speakers performance. Essentially you are listening to a system through another system. Good fun all the same. Copyright infringement prevents me from doing them anymore 😉
Hi neil, it is the 3.5mm to USB C adapter not the room. Tried a few solutions. Work in progress. The sound on this video does come out too echoey when I play it back on my system.
I have seen/heard that Tekton speakers are very good! very sensitive aimed at tube amps.. They are meant to sound very good but can't buy them here in the UK?.. Damn..
@@abritishaudiophile7314 No idea sir but the star arrangement for the midrange is supposed to be very good? I saw a vid and they awarded the 'MOAB' outstanding speaker of the show! Gotta be good. Out performed speakers well out their price range.. Look very good indeed!
That room sounds horrible. How can you pay so much money for audio equipment, to then place it in an untreated room? It makes no sense to me. Edit: I take back some of what I’ve said previously. After watching your video on speaker setup, I think I understand a bit more. So, let’s say you were a sound engineer about to do a final mix. Am I right in saying, you would also use a designed and treated studio environment? And although that may sound better from a critical listening standpoint, that room only has one intended purpose. But this room isn’t intended to be a studio environment. It’s purpose is to be a place you can enjoy quality sounding music, to your own level of listening satisfaction. Yet still have the room be kinda lively and open, so it feels you’re in a home rather than a commercial setting. So rather than adapting the environment to work better with the speakers, audiophiles tend to try and look for the speakers that work best sonically with that specific room. If you took the time to respond to this, it’d be much appreciated. Not being an audiophile myself, I’d like to know if my understanding of this is somewhat correct, being as a lot of audiophiles tend to just shun you the moment you mention room treatment. I hope you have a good day.
Hi, room treatment is beneficial but many people don’t understand how much of it you need of it to make a difference. You need to know what you are doing and deal with specific problems, be it bringing down the RT60 time or flattening bass resonance peaks. The good news is that a well designed speaker with good off-axis performance can sound very good in a normal living space as long as the speakers is well chosen for the room and set up correctly. My room sounds pretty good. The problem I have is that I shoot these videos on my iPad Pro and have to convert the mic’s 3.5mm output to USB C into the iPad. There lies the problem. Thank you for watching and your feedback 😉
A British Audiophile - Hi, thanks for the response. I feel we’re both kind of on the same page then. You’re right. Some people treat their rooms without understanding of what they’re actually doing, this sometimes results in a poorer sound. In a professional environment, the ideal is a flat frequency response, not a dead one. And too much of the wrong treatment, or even the wrong kind of treatment in places, can really kill the sound or cause a multitude of other unwanted effects. Now I’m no expert, and I’m still trying to understand things like, what I need to do in certain rooms, why I need to do those things, how to target specific frequency ranges more effectively, and so on... So I can almost guarantee your understanding of this subject is a lot greater than mine. But I’m currently building a small home studio, and I’m nearly at the room treatment stage. So this genuinely peaked my interest, and I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Regarding my opinion of the sound of your room in the video, I just thought it sounded really lively. I agree though, that isn’t exactly the greatest of recording paths haha. But hey, I guess it’s convenient and it works. Plus, you’re producing some really good content, and that’s what matters. I also really like the fact that you don’t try to blow smoke up peoples arses. There’s too many audiophiles that do that, and it tends to give the rest a sort of ‘bad reputation’. So honestly, keep up the good work you’re doing. It can be very informative. If you ever consider an upgrade to your audio rig though, but want to still keep it fairly portable, I’d highly recommend the Sound Devices MixPre-3 with something like a Shure SM7B. It’s a battery powered recorder, for portability and convince. I’ve not used it myself, but I know a few people who have, and I’ve heard nothing but great things about them. And the larger MixPre-10 has been used on multiple albums from bands such a Tool. Regarding the sound of my studio control room, I think I might just get someone in to help me design something acoustically sufficient. With it not being very large, I don’t want to risk killing the sound, or wasting money having to redo it. So if you happen to know anyone from the midlands area, that you’d recommend, it’d be much appreciated. And if you ever consider making a video covering room treatment, different listening environments, maybe even speakers with room calibration. Like monitors from Genelec, or using the Sonarworks Reference 4 software. Then I would love to hear a more in-depth opinion about the subjects. I hope you have a great day anyway. Cheers.
Thank you The Fake News Frog🐸 I appreciate your advice on the mic and mixer choice, I certainly need it. It is not my area of expertise. It is tricky to get good low frequency response in small rooms. They inherently have resonances further up the frequency range merely due to the dimensions. You need quite a lot of bass traps to get them under control. Start with the corners, floor to ceiling, and then take it from there. I will do a video on the subject, although my knowledge only takes me so far. I can’t justify having bass traps in my living space to the extent that they would make a difference. Fortunately, there are some work arounds. Getting the speaker position right is the main thing as you can shift the resonances out of your listening position and get a reasonable decent bass response. Also, having subs helps. One good, two even better. By moving from 2 bass sources (main speakers) to 4 bass sources (mains + subs) you can get a much flatter bass response. They are an effective active bass management solution. The other thing I would focus on, is the RT60 time. Most studios want to get this between 0.3 and 0.7s. I personally think if it is below 1 sec for a domestic listening room, your are good. You don’t want it to be too dead as this kills spacial effects, weakens the central image and causes a dip in the frequency response at around 2khz due to head related transfer functions. Specifically, head shadowing. Also, as I test speakers, I need to determine their off axis performance and I don’t want to kill the first reflection points as this marks if there are any problems with the off axis performance of the speaker. Once again thank you for watching and contributing 😉👍
Unfortunately, due to the size of the channel and copyright issues, I can’t do that anymore. It is a shame as I enjoyed doing the music clips for entertainment purposes and to showcase music. I don’t believe you can judge a system listening through another system though. Thank you for watching Arkman 😉
There's lots of reviews out there of these. Including Stereophile, which has measurements. And Zero Fidelity has a video on them. I've yet to see anyone get very excited though. I think they're seriously overpriced myself. But to each his own.
HH Scott nobody on the tube has done the M700. All reviews are of the gain cell dac & s300 combo. There is an underlying current that the GCD is the weak link. I'd like some reviewers' take on the m700 without the GCD. The Stereophile review is positive - various internet opinions are positive and negative. Someone on the tube like Tarun who has experience with way more products than the average internet dude can provide a lot of value.
@@shimofo1 I see what you mean. That makes sense. I've got a preamp (Holographic Audio Pre Twenty Five) like that. I've only seen a review with the matching amp. It would be nice to see what is said about it by itself. I got a deal on it. So I didn't mind taking the leap. I will say that PS Audio gear isn't a bad deal if you've got stuff to trade in. But at full price. I wouldn't consider it myself. Those amps use Ice Power modules. Kind of outdated really. I have an Ncore amp myself, and it's pretty good. But you've really got to be careful what you match it with, or it can completely lack emotion. For that kind of money. I would look at the new Purifi stuff myself. It's supposed to be a lot better. Did you see the new NAD that came out yesterday? It's $2k, and uses the Purifi modules. It can be bridged too, if you're stuck on the monoblock thing. Either way. Good luck on your hunt/journey. And have a great day. ✌️
@@shimofo1 BTW I've heard that the DAC is really good in that GCD. But the preamp part isn't so good. It would be interesting to see a review, or hear it, with another preamp added to the mix. And Audio Excellence Canada did a video on the new Stellar integrated amp, and loved it. Said they fixed the issues with the combo, and it was up their with the Hegel integrated amps. Just thought I would throw that out there. ✌️
Hi John, the acoustic centre of the speaker is somewhere between the tweeter and mid. It is still a little high but not a problem. If you are more than 2.5m away.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 you ever have any doings with avi S21 amplifier with phono stage, supposed to be a good phono stage and good amp, looking for one if you see one let me know in the comments I'll give you my details has to be in the UK. I see you have those speakers towing in you seem to like that in your setup! you're not a fan of pointing straight out, your a bit limited on space specially with the sideboard there
Hi John, I have only heard the AVI stuff a couple of times at shows. Has a good reputation though. I suspect you may have to be quite patient to track down a good used example in the U.K. I play around quite a bit with positioning to get the speakers working the best I can in the room. The room places certain limitations. I usually find that some degree of toe-in tends to work.
Not during COVID Mick. Just enjoy listening to my system when everyone else is in bed. I normally use that time to research my videos or respond to comments from my listeners. I need to discipline myself and go to bed at a reasonable hour if the dark rings under my eyes have any chance of disappearing 🥱🥱🥱
I can hear audio opinions from anyone but I truly enjoy and benefit from your videos because you have a nack for educating us along our audiophile journey. This one is a great example. Thank you.
That is extremely kind of you C Adam and one of the reasons I do this channel. Thank you for watching and your support is very much appreciated 😉👍👍
I've recently purchased these bad boys. Couldn't be happier with that decision. 5 stars from me! I'm no hifi expert but I now enjoy music listening on a whole new level than ever before!
That is great 😉
So glad to hear you talk about the timimg issue. This is one aspect that is ignored too often in speakers. Contrary to alot of people's opinions, it is audible when done right.
Thank you J Ked 😊
Your technical approach is always inspiring, specially, in this case, the explanation on the differences between the dispersion of horns and "normal" tweeters. Learned a lot! Thanks!
Thank you TCC. Much appreciated 😊👍
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Nice way to talk about Triangle speakers, you manage to give us a balanced view with well described pros and cons
Thank you Michel 😊👍
Hello,
Thank you for this very interesting video and description.
I've had a pair of quartets in Genese for 5 years now and I'm very happy with them too.
I have made a few small modifications to improve them..
I asked a technician to modify the filters by removing the poliswitches, I changed the capacitors, and rewired the internal wiring. Today they sing wonderfully associated with a musical fidelity msi5 and a nad c658.
Now I am very happy with the result .
Thank you Miguel. I appreciate you watching and sharing your experiences 😊👍
Hi mate!
I have these speakers too and thinking about the tuning. Can you give me your email address? I would like to get more technical details from you! Thank you!
Useful comparisons and appreciated that you explained the amp pairings too - wish more reviewers were more specific about the pairings they used to evaluate gear.
Thank you Michael. I appreciate you watching. 😉👍
Wow Tarun , thanks for another great product review , means a lot for your loyal subscribers.
Thank you Atri. Much appreciated. Always a pleasure to hear from you 😉👍👍
Tarun is a guide and he is here to aid you in what may be a difficult choice. Speakers can make or break a system’s voice, so being well informed is key to not making a poor choice. Be mindful and listen well to what Tarun says. This could prevent a poor decision which you will regret. Try finding a dealer which will allow you an audition at home as this is the best way to really know for sure what you are getting. That may be difficult to find, but it would be worth it. Stay safe mates!😊👍🏻😷
Thank you Mark. That means a lot coming from you. 👍 Are you well? Have you been busy?
A British Audiophile, right now I’m reorganizing my life and removing excess. Getting ready for life’s next round and trying to stay positive. Hope for the best, do what you can do and let God do His will. Stay safe all! 😊👍🏻😷
Thanks for the comparative impressions. It makes all the difference and I hope more reviewers do the same to provide context to their evaluations.
Their pros and cons are typical floorstanders vs bookshelfs at the same price range 👍. Great review as always :) .
Thank you Albeshr. I appreciate you watching and sharing 😉👍
Good review detailing the tradeoffs inherent in the HiFi pursuit. I agree they look great with the grills on, I disagree that they don't look as good sans grills. I find the industrial design / styling of the drivers, port, and base above average. Details like the silver badge tie it all together into an elegant result.
Thank you Normal Man. I agree, it is an attractive speaker 😉👍
Firstly, those speakers come off as looking very nice, and your review was excellent as usual, Tarun. Bravo sir, and thank you very much!
Thank you Nick. Much appreciated. Always great to hear from you my friend 😀👍
Hi Tarun! I own the exact speakers in piano black finish. I have conpared them to a couple of more expensive speakers, harbeth, sonus faber, and prefered the triangle quartet. I own them for about 3 years and I would only change them with speakers in the top range from triangle, the magellan series. I think they are very fast, detailed and fun speakers. Your review was as always spot on. Also i really enjoyed the video with the dac power supply. I own a chord hugo2 and I am really temped to try a high end power source. Best regards!
Thank you AMC RO. Great to hear about your experiences 😊👍
I just got the borea triangle br03s ...they sound amazing out of the box...no break-in time....gorgeous designed speakers....awesome reviews....Thank You Tarun....
Thank you Mark, much appreciated 😉👍
Oh man, in my opinion their Borea line of speakers are the best speakers they ever produced. You can't find their tonality even up to 5k a pair, only think that comes close is the Focal Aria lineup.
Very interesting Narekaci. I am reviewing the Trios next. They potentially could have many of the Quartets qualities but without the drawbacks. Much earlier to integrate 2 drivers than 4. I am keen to find out. I was reluctant to review the Boreas as there are so many reviews already out there. I may have to rethink this if the Trios turn out to be any good. It may be interesting to see how they compare to the Trios but I am getting ahead of myself 🤔
@@abritishaudiophile7314 I have had the pleasure of trying the Trios and they can be considered as a upgrade to the BR03. However, their tone is still a bit different, due to being horn loaded tweeters instead of Borea's soft dome. I would recommend a listen of the BR03.
Thank you Narekaci 😉
Tarun, Really enjoy your posts. Recently got a Jern 14 speakers for my home office, very satisfied with it. Smooth sound with good imaging and staging. Just listen to them, when you have a moment.
Hi Bijil, they are good guys at Triangle. Really pleasant to deal with, very supportive in providing information. I have the Trios in for review and I wouldn’t mind taking a look at the Borea’s as well.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 The BR09 are really nice and what started my hifi journey, but compared to the quartet, they are a league behind. I thought I needed to A/B test the two speakers - to decide what to keep, but After a quick listen to the quartets, I never got around to turning back on the BR09's :-)
@@hhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnn There is something about these Triangle speaker that puts a smile on your face when listening 😉
after seeing youre review of these i got a very good deal on their bigger version,the genese lyrr,very pleased with them so far,they seem a little bass light but as they are new i hope and expect this will improve over time and use,i ue them with a naim uniti and a naim power amp as well and i find them open,fast and detailed,love the way they handle acoustic music
That is great 👍
Thanks Tarun. Beautiful and unique speakers. I have a pair of Triangle Borea Br03. A really excellent speaker in it's price range. One oddity, the hole in the binding post screw on caps have a hole in the end supposedly to allow a banana plug to enter. The problem is that the hole is .010" too small to allow the passage of a banana connector. You can remove the cap to fit bananas or do as I did, and drill out the hole to .171". I chamfered the hole as long as I was at it. I have no idea why this anomaly exists but it might help explain Peugeots. .
Thank you for sharing James. I will probably get around to reviewing the BR03s at some point too 😉👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 The contrarian in me wants to find fault with equipment that is rave reviewed. I have to say in the case of the Bro3, when paired with the right gear, the speaker is just amazing.
In my opinion, TRIANGLE makes the sweetest sounding speakers. 'Accuracy' buffs stay away.
These certainly have a beautiful tonality Olu 😉
@@abritishaudiophile7314 l heard them at the NYaudio show, and was struck by the sweetness of the sound. Will buy a pair down the line. Right now, working with JBL and Vandersteen.
What audio equipment were they using with them ... That would be the deciding factor on there sound signature
Speaker are always a good place to start and then put together a system around them.
They are INCREDIBLE for orchestral music, for everything else, they are ok. I listen to mainly rock, anf I returned them for a pair of Focal Aria 926, now those are true rock and roll speakers.
Hi Tarun! As always another very informative review on these speakers. Thank you.👍😊
Thank you James. I appreciate you watching and commenting 😉👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 No Tarun thank you! You are one of the few audio reviewers I look forward to watch and listen too. I believe I know when someone is honest and has good integrity.👍😊
Very kind, thank you James 😉👍
Fantastic review. I'm getting to it late, but needed to comment that you continue to put out fantastic content.
Thank you Enrique. That is very kind 😊👍
Hi Tarun! I read in many magazines and youtube videos over the years that Triangle speakers have a very distinctive sound and look, but sadly, I never had the opportunity to listen to any of them. I certainly would love to have a listen if just to judge for myself how they sound! Great review! Thanks!
Thank you Yves 😊👍
Your ability to describe audio equipment is...excellent!
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Thank you Mr Petersen. Much appreciated 😊👍
It would be great if Proac would " reach out too" but i wouldnt hold my breath , great channel Arun
I agree Cloudy Day. At the moment they are not supporting reviews on RUclips. Thank you for watching and your support 😉👍
Very good video. Clear-Concise-Precise
Just like your comment jworthe. Thank you for watching and I appreciate your support 😉👍
I'm in love with the brand. They have an enjoyable sound. Plus their support team is amazing.
After buying 2 sets of speakers from them. I wanted to upgrade the little borea Br02 crossover. I asked them the values for the coils and they gave me the answer. Amazing !
They're the only brand with beyerdynamic that are not afraid to respond those type of questions.
They're confident enough and they make their own drivers so no fear of copycats.
Nice video Tarun !
Hi yannick930, I am not surprised. They are amongst the nicest and most responsive bunch of people I have had the pleasure of dealing with up to now. Up to an including their GM. Lovely tonality to these Genese Quartets too.
Hello Tarun, I hope I wrote your name correctly. I came across your channel recently while researching for a new pair of HiFi speakers, and I'm glad I did. So thank you for all the time, research, energy, and effort you do so that the likes of me can make an informed decision before purchasing a set of speakers and other high end electronics.
I'm not an audiophile, and don't know much about the technical aspects of neither speakers nor amplifiers. I'm just a simple guy who enjoy good music. In that regard I'm learning a whole lot from watching your videos.
I want to upgrade and try a different brand. Hence why I'm interested in Triangle, but hesitating between the Genese Quartet and the Delta Signature. Their design appeals to my senses. Where I live the Delta cost 6000€ whereas the Quartet is half the price, but they are hard to get hold of. I'll have to order them from abroad, which deprives of the chance of listening to them before I can decide.
I've had the chance to listen to the Delta, let me just say that the richness of the sound spoke to my soul! In your review of the Quartets you say that they are all about "tonality, dynamics, and engagement." You also touched on clarity and resolution being sacrificed as a result. Quartet is in the high mid range of the Genese lineup, can lack of clarity and resolution be justified at this price bracket from such a household name, or is this a matter of taste? Have you had the chance to review the Delta, did you notice the same clarity and resolution issues? I know they are worlds apart, but is the difference in technical details, material and sound quality worth the price difference?
Given your extensive knowledge, your insight would greatly be appreciated, and your opinion even more so.
Warm regards,
Saxe
Thank you Saxe. It is great to have feedback like that. Quite often a fuller, richer sound comes at the expense of clarity. You can have both but that comes with increased cost. I haven’t heard the Signatures but I suspect they will have greater clarity. The Genese is an older design. You may be interested in watching my review of the 40th Anniversary Cométe which has more modern driver. They do the Antal floorstander version too. Link below 👍😊👍
ruclips.net/video/39R1cHwCrTw/видео.html
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thank you!
Great review 👍🏻 and Adorama I like what you're doing !
Thank you buddy 😊👍
Lovely looking speakers. Great informative review.
Thank you Ajay 😉👍
Another Superb Review ! ...Spot on about the horn tweeters ,Not for everybody 👍
Thank you Anand. I appreciate you watching and your support 😉👍
I would like to add "not for every room" as the tweeters are very sweet sounding provided there's enough room height and preferably also a rug on the floor and something absorbing on the ceiling is mandatory if the height is lower than 2,5 x the height of the Quartets. In the room this video was shot in it is easy to hear that it has acoustical problems (way to long RT60 and most likely a lot of flutter echo as well)
I own the Genese Quartets and love them, but I cannot agree with them being forgiving in terms of room acoustics. In nordic hoses with relatively moderate ceiling heights the height of the Quartets places the horn tweeter almost mid way between floor and ceiling and if both are hard surfaces (hardwood, painted wood, plaster) the reflections arrive almost simultaneously and at a too high level and causes smearing and an unpleasant hardness. A nice rug and ecophon solo on the ceiling made for a small miracle.
Also, bi-amping is a must if using ie AV-receivers or other moderately current capable amps to power them
Excellent review Tarun. Keep doing more love it...
Thank you MsRajapandianchandru . I appreciate you watching and your kind words of support 😉👍
Great job on this one man!
Thank you Ron. Good to hear from you 😉👍
Lovely looking speaker, but I'm not sure they would suit my 16' X 11' 6" room. The fact that they reach down to 35htz sounds like they would be ideal for me, if my room is large enough. 1m out from the wall may be to intrusive in my room. Good review yet again Tarun.
Hi steve. Great to hear from you. You need to be at least 2.5m away from them as well. Something smaller would be advisable 😉👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 It's finding a speaker that digs so deep with the bass that's the hard part. So far PMC's Twenty5.26 seems to fit the part, but at almost 9 grand it's out of my price range. As you know I do love that deep bass.
@Anthony Martino way too large for my 16 X 11.6 room but sound interesting. I live in the UK so that could also be an issue. My budget is around £3000 so a good pair of second hand high end PMC, Proac or Spendor may be a better option for me.
@@steverees1936 Have a look at Quadral Aurum floorstanders. These generally sound great while digging deep.
These are not bass heavy speakers, they are NOT deep.
Great review! Very professional
Thank you Doug. Very much appreciated 😉👍
I have the bigger brothers, the Signature Deltas. Absolutely amazing speakers!
I bet fvl089. Thank you for sharing 😉👍
Thanks for the review. New Triangle models seem to have sonically evolved from my old Triangle Antal XS speakers.
Thank you for watching and sharing Raul 😉👍
Great review on a speaker companies product that doesn’t get much coverage.
Thank you Patrick😉👍
Nice! Thanks, been waiting for your review, 'couse Sean and Steve had good impressions from Trio standmount speaker
Yes, they have a beautiful tonality Raymondey. Thank you for watching and commenting 😉👍
Great review! I've heard and enjoyed the bookshelves(sp?) at audio shows but not the towers. May have to get a pair of these beauties.
Hi P W, I am looking forward to reviewing the Trios. It is possible that they may have many of the qualities without some of the drawback. Much earlier to integrate two drivers than four. Would be interesting to find out 🤔👍👍
Hi Bro 👋 Presently iam using Atc Scm 40 Floor Stander Speakers for the last Nine years Exactly" So if i upgrade to Triangle Australe Ez will be a better choice your feedback please
I had a pair of “knock off” brand speakers that had a similar driver setup. It also had the kind of sound you described, though with more issues due to port location and cabinet resonances.
That is very interesting. Thank you Rennie 😉
Really nice and half the price of what I’ve been considering.
Thank you for watching and commenting Dennis 😉👍
I do alot of pro sound setups, and from my humble expertise, using a Compression HF causes the sound to be thrown a extra couple of feet futher. So what I am saying is that you should add a extra meter or two to your listening test position from the speaker. hope this help.
Thank you Jeremy 😉
Thanks for the review. I have a longstanding relationship with Triangle and still have a pair of Cometes and a TE60 stuffed up in the loft. There was something about the fun factor of their gear that stopped me discarding those units when I upgraded my system past their level, many years ago. Triangle do seem to aim towards a dense and pungent sound but have you considered the environment of your system? Just my opinion but it looks like your room might need some additional damping. Also, I've never received such true musical benefit as when I invested in purer mains and vibration control. I don't know if you've experimented in that area but I only ( after 25 years of gear in and out ) achieved true musical satisfaction once I invested into improving the environment of my system.
I honestly think it is worthwhile spending as much on the vibration suppression, mains and cabling as on the system. I'd much rather have a system with £5000 spent on the above and the same on the 'core' components than £10,000 spent on just CD, amp and speakers, with minimal investment in what surrounds, supports and feeds that system. Endlessly upgrading electronics and speakers only brought some ( admittedly very welcome and necessary ) 'hifi' improvements ( resolution, tonality, definition, soundstaging ) but improving the environment made the music sensical and relatable, which I believe is the core of musical enjoyment. For lack of a better way of putting it, the 'soul' of music really only arrived then and I can swap in and out gear belonging to friends and the musical 'core' is always accessible. Anyway, perhaps you are completely happy with your system as is but thought I'd throw in my twopence. Sorry if I sound like a reviewer for HiFi+ but that's my honest experience. Thanks for an enjoyable channel and all the effort you put in.
Let me start by saying I have no personal or commercial relationship with the company I am about to mention to you. My only relationship with them is as a satisfied consumer.
Absolutely agree that clean AC and vibration damping of equipment are an audible improvement. I'm also that guy who hears the effects of the CD Stoplight clearly.
Acoustic Fields has a very informative series of you tube videos and other resources dealing with room acoustics. You might enjoy them.
"sensical and relatable"... please clarify Lee!
@@legrandmaitre7112 I meant the music came together, as a whole, that made the intention of the music 'make sense' and made it easier for me to relate to the intention of the music being communicated to me. I wasn't improving individual, elements such as 'resolution,' 'tone', 'dynamics,' 'bass extension,' ect. I was improving the overall effect it had on me.
Thank you for the review. How was shipping? Any damage problems? I am a bit nervous about ordering electronic gear through delivery service, but these and a few other of the Triangle models seem like a great deal. You mentioned wide vs. narrow disbursement speakers this is what I am battling now in choosing the "best educational guess" in speaker design for my 17'Wx29'Lx6'H drop ceiling. I anticipate any speaker being about 7 to 8 feet apart from one another and about 2 to 3 feet away from side walls. So far I love the Klipsch Forte III's but their very wide disbursement nature may not work. Thoughts? I looked at the Fyne Audio F502 w/ concentric compression tweeter driver in what I guess is a narrow disbursement speaker, that may be better suited for the room, that is until I watched this video. Suggestions? I also demoed the Focal Chora 826, yes not a horn (my favorite type of speaker) but still it has a high efficiency rating (equally as important to me as horns) but it may be a wide disbursement speaker too, as I heard it extending to the side cabinets strongly. Your thoughts? Stay Healthy. Cheers.
Hi Mark, they arrived on a pallet directly from France perfectly intact. I haven’t heard the Fyne Audio F502. If you love the Klipsch Forte III, I would go with them.
Another excellent review Tarun, many thanks and this time a review of something I've never heard of, but these speakers do sound like my kind of kit. I wonder how they'd match up to my 350W (per channel) vintage Bi-Apm set-up. An interesting prospect methinks.
Thank you Keith. I think all that power will be handy. Just needs to be a good sonic match. Thank you for watching 😉👍
The driver layout is interesting. I do see a properly small midrange. 2 tweeter! Interesting.
Hi Audfile, I see one tweeter and a relatively large midrange...
I really like your format for these reviews. By providing *adjacent* pros and cons of individual characteristics, you answer the same questions that pop into my head in real time. There are a couple of questions that come to mind. Does the tweeter placement put it above ear level in a typical arrangement, and does that have an effect? Does the grille cloth make a substantial difference in sound qualities? (It is a pretty/awfully ugly speaker without the grille.)
I'm glad of the selection of driver amplifiers you have. To me, this can be the most important aspect of a review: should I have to buy a different amp to accomodate a set of speakers?
I tend to admire Triangle's design features as regards driver surrounds and cone surfaces. You inspire me to want to hear them, but not to buy them without hearing them. That's a good thing.
Hi Jim, I appreciate your support and it is good to hear from. I suspect the acoustic centre of the speaker is somewhere between the tweeter and midrange. Still, higher than most people’s listening height. Not a problem unless you are within 2 and half meters distance from the speakers. The definitely do sound better with the grills off. It isn’t heaven and earth but noticeable al the same. Thankfully the grills are magnetic and easy to remove 🧲 Thank you for watching and commenting 😉👍
thank you for another clearly and obviously informed opinion. Its much appreciated. I know its impossible to review every active speaker, but I've been considering the edifier s 3000 pro. Do you have an opinion on that speaker? Thank you again for the great work.
Edifier are building a solid reputation but I haven’t heard the 3000 Pro so can’t say for sure if it is any good. Thank you for watching David 😉👍
How are the cabinets on these? I like the idea of these speakers but they're seemingly light and I haaaate when I can hear cabinet resonance
There were no significant cabinet resonances at the volumes I played them at. They have quite a lot of internal bracing. I suspect the drivers are quite light. Thank you for watching 😉
Hi Tarun, my Triangle Genese Lyrr have just arrived, did you spend long running the Quartet’s in? I’m 6 hours in and they are opening up nicely.
Hi Lee, I spent as long as I could, a few weeks, but I bet the pay would benefit from further break in 😊
You can get these at richer sounds for £1299 on vip club would you consider anything at that price could beat it?
@@kaydencarr7930 not to my knowledge. They are a bargain at that price 😊
Hi Tarun, Greetings from Vienna. I was following many of your Reviews and got inspired to look into buying a mid range Amplifier. I still do not understand how to match my speakers with the rating of the Amplifier. I have two Canton Chrono 509 DC speakers . The speakers shows a rating of 4-8 Ohm, 160/320Watt . My question is what power rating shall I look for in an Amplifier for these speakers. If I have to match with 160watt as a minimum then its a expensive beast, which I cannot afford now. Currently I am using a Onkyo TX -Nr 636 AV (rating 60W) to drive these speakers and I guess there is big room for improvement. Can you suggest me some amplifiers for these speakers in a 1000-1500euro range.
Hi Barun, thank you for watching and your kind words of support. I haven’t heard that speaker I am afraid. There are many good choice of amplifiers that will work with a wide range of speakers at that price. It will come down to a matter of personal taste. Some to consider...
Hegel H95
Naim Nait 5Si
Rega Elex R
Audiolab 8300A
Roksan Kandy K3
Good luck 😉👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks Tarun. Just saw your review of M10. Seems like the best fit to what I want to have. Unfortunately its costs a fortune ad can't afford it in short term. :)
Hi and thanks for a good and detailed review. can you please tell me the difference between Triangle and Monitor audio preferably silver model?
Thanks
just bought the silver 500 5.1 6G and i find them to be harsh and to bright and lacking base, i drive them with Marantz sr7015.
The store tells me that i need to burn them in for 100h and have now burned them in for 20h and no big change, thinking of returning them. appreciate your feedback
Hi Raphy, some of the MA speakers can be a little bright. The sound will improve with run-in but normally does not change the overall tonality that much. I would send them back. I haven’t done an AB comparison between MA and Triangle. Good luck 😊👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks
Nice review again.
2 woofers of 160mm means 201 sq cm between them, which converts to a single 22.6 cm diameter woofer (8.9"). Are two better than one bigger? As they are parallel, there is an impedance issue, but they will be faster, more precise that the inertia of a larger one.
As to the "horny" character (pardon my intended pun), toe in beyond straight at your ears gives a wider listening position optimum and is especially convenient when the horns are at their best when the edge of the sonic cone touches your ear, not the center.
As to the woolly nature, at 1.23 m high, they seem rather high for a relaxed listening position.
As to the impedance going low, their crossover was designed to break apart for bi-amping - it would be really interesting to discover what the sonic effect would be if you bi-amp these.
Note - 160mm is 6.3" not 5.5" = there are 25.4 mm in an inch. When you go decimal, then note that units are chosen by the experience depending on context. In the imperial system you do that too. You walk 5 kilometers, have a car 4.4m long, have a height of 1m86 m (i.e. 1 m and 86 cm). Also, when we use a unit, we imply a level of precision. "1230 mm high" means "between 1229.5 mm and 1230.5 mm high". The mm unit is used in construction cases. When we describe smaller things, we move to cm and for the tine to mm, etc.
Thank you for watching and commenting JP 😉👍
Hi there buddy. I was wondering can have also a set of a old pair of B&W DM 602 Bookshelf speaker. I was wondering what integrated amplifier do you think would be a decent pairing with the speakers I was thinking of buying a second IOTAVX SA3 but I was considering a Yamaha
I will also consider any other brand if you would recommend as well
Thank you very much for your advice and help
Hi Felix, B&W speakers can be a little on the bright side of neutral. I have always enjoyed their sound with Arcam amplifiers as the warmth of the Arcam combines well with the dry and slightly sharp presentation of the B&Ws to provide a balanced sound. Just my personal opinion though. In the end it is just a matter of personal, taste.
A British Audiophile Thank you very much. I appreciate the advice. I’m just looked up the Arcam SA20 what you think of this model.
Hi Felix, should be a good choice. You could save a bit by going for the SA10 or even the previous A19. I have heard the A19 as it was quite a special little amplifier at it’s price.
A British Audiophile once again I can’t thank you enough For all the advice and help that you have given me thank you once again
You are most welcome Felix. Good luck 😉👍👍
Genese ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for watching Andrei 😉
I am wondering how would the big brother Genese Lyrr sounds like? Have you heard of them? Are they similar to Quartet? Can't find any video review of them. Any great review! Love it
Thank you Chester. I haven’t heard the Lyrr. If engineers properly, they should have a similar sound to the Quartets but designed for bigger rooms 😊👍
Great review and love the channel, Tarun! I know others have brought this up before but have you considered doing something about the acoustics of your room? I notice how lively it is in every video. My room is treated to deal with both flutter echo and 1st/2nd reflection points. I'm also in a basement with carpet. A few days ago I experimented and removed the absorbers that handle just the flutter echo but left the reflection point absorbers and the tonality of my system instantly became bright and the soundstaging became messy and greatly lost depth and width. I know treatments aren't ideal from a visual standpoint. Are you considering doing any treatments?
Thank you Sean. I appreciate your support and feedback. The room is a touch lively but not as bad as it comes across in the videos. Problems with converting 3.5mm output from mic to usb C to feed my iPad. I am limited to how much treatment I can have in the room as it is a family space. I have my system set up in a semi near field arrangement. Sounds pretty good in the listening position. Good to hear from you and thank you for watching 😉👍
A carpet or a larger rug would help a lot.
Nice speaker 👍
Thank you for watching Erik 😉👍
great review, congrats, would you say 6x5x2.5 meter room (with an opening) is big enough for these monsters... thanks
Thank you Dpro78. The 2.5m might be a bit of an issue . How far apart are the speakers going to be and how far are you going to be from them?
@@abritishaudiophile7314 speakers could be apart as much as possible, the room is 6m wide so i can be seated far away from them... iKnow, low ceiling isn't perfect...
actually I have an dilemma... I'm about to buy Hegel H190 and I'm not sure which way to go... floorstanders... or maybe Triangle Comète Ez and then, with time (&money) add a pair of subwoofers, thank you so much for your time
Thanks for the review, I’ve ordered the Genese Lyrr in white. What do you think of the build quality? What is the finish like?
I would really like to see a comparison of the Genese and the Signature as they look almost identical. It would be interesting to see what you get for the extra money!
Thank you Lee. The Genese are well constructed speakers. The gloss white is nicely finished. Just about to film my review of the Triangle 40th Ann Cométe 😊👍
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks for the quick reply, I think this may just be the year that triangle become more popular, and rightly so. I’ll definitely watch the Comete review .
Great review, one more! Still makes me feel happy about the psb choice! How about a review on some of their towers?
Hi Felipe, I have spoken to the PSB U.K. rep. I will be getting some of their speakers in. One of my favourite brands. 😉👍
A British Audiophile sounds great. You can deliver a great review even on Bose gear! Forgot to mention on our last trend regarding good recordings, I still have to dive into the Lionel Ritchie catalogue. BTW, why don’t you make a video approaching all these different audiophile pressings,
Ike these Mofi ultra gain, 1 step, half speed, technical differences between analog and digital masters, how they impact vinyl pressings, etc. Bet you would nail it! Keep going with this great channel. Lastly, all my photo gear has been purchased at Adorama, they are simply second to none!
Thank you Felipe. Your support is much appreciated. I am probably not best placed to talk about vinyl as I have had an all digital system for years. Love the format though. I have just started a relationship with Adorama, I hope they may be able to give me some advice of photography gear for vlogging.
A British Audiophile hey Tarun, I am looking forward for the analysis. I do hear you about vinyl, but I bet you can still deliver in the subject than most of the vinyl “audiophile” channels out there. I do quite a bit of photography, and you’ll be very pleased with Adorama. Very helpful and knowledgeable folks there.
Thank you Felipe 😉
Hello!
Your room sounds very live in each video. It may just be your recording setup doing it. If you’re using an Omni mic, you may consider another choice. If I’ve already mentioned this previously I apologize. I only bring it up because your content would be improved with less room sound. One friend to another.
Is your room this live when listening?
Edit: Very well done, by the way! ✨
Thank you buddy. The room is a touch on the lively side but not as much as it comes across in the video. I use an iPad Pro to film and unlike previous models , it has no 3.5mm connection. Apple Ahhh!!! I have to use a 3.5mm to USB C adapter and they all sound awful. Tried a few. The lavalier mic overloads the audio (to much gain) and the shotgun mic doesn’t have enough gain and picks up too much room sound. Both mics are much better with my sons iPad which has a 3.5mm input. I can’t justify spending a whole lot at the moment in video and audio gear, so not sure what I can do to fix the problem.
A British Audiophile
Understood. You’ll get it taken care of down the road. Let me know when you’re ready for reasonably priced suggestions and I’ll try to be helpful. Again... only trying to help your content quality. You always have a good result overall, so forget I said anything till the time is right.
Your friend in California,
Chuk
Always a pleasure to hear from you my friend. I know that any input you give is always with the best intentions. I would love to hear your suggestions on how I can improve the quality of my videos Chuk. As I have no experience or knowledge in this field. Just learning on the job. 😉👍
A British Audiophile
chrdarm@aol.com we will talk about it when you wish.
Good Morning Tarun , can I request you to make a good and easy to understand video on “ holographic images “ from 2 speakers only, without subs , how can we achieve this experience with budget in mind , your views in this particular method will be very helpful for your viewers as we do believe in your natural talent of describing things in simple and humble way , thanks in advance 🙏
Hi Atri, thank you for the suggestion. Holographic imaging is not easy to achieve. Most systems produce a good left to right soundstage but one that lacks depth. Getting a truly 3D soundstage and precise imaging within it is a shortcoming of 2 channel audio. It can be done with very good quality (expensive) components and a room set up correctly. High end multi channel audio systems do better but are even more expensive and have to be fed with high quality, well mastered multi channel recordings. There are only a handful of those, mainly for demo purposes to showcase what is possible. You might find this link interesting...
ruclips.net/video/FU5-ZdprCrc/видео.html
Cheers Tarun !
Lovin the the floor-standing review!! :) I know a lot of audiophiles don't like floor-standers maybe their sound it more impressive to the newbie!!?? But to me my floor-standers gave me a more immersive experience than my bookshelves ever did! Maybe its amplifier dependent!!?? I would love to see a review of the Revel Concerta2 F35
speaker and my grail the Sonus Faber Venere S speaker!! Great review though thanks for your work!!
Thank you Chris. I appreciate your support. I did send Harman International an email a couple month back about reviewing their M106s. Time to follow up with a reminder. Thank you for jogging the memory.
is there are actual sound test of this speaker model..???
Sorry, I don’t do sound demos Leon. Can’t get it past copyright. Sorry to disappoint. Thank you for watching 😉
What are your thoughts on Chario speakers. I have an old pair of their pegasus they have served me well but I think I'm ready for a change
I have heard the name but not that familiar with those speakers Cactus. What is their general sound characteristic?
@@abritishaudiophile7314 They are Italian I find them to be well rounded, vocals and mid range clear and well presented . I would say just slightly less than being bright. Bass can sometimes dominate due to the downward firing bass unit. I'm running on an old Restek Challenger amp and an old Pioneer SACD player. All of it is around 12 years old and well used.
Sound like a very nice system Cactus. Not much has changed in amplifier tech (except class D) and speaker tech in the last 12 years. I suppose it comes down to what you want to achieve by changing and how much you want to spend.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks for the advice you have just saved me a small fortune. Loving the channel by the way only discovered you about a week ago.
Hi Cactus, that seems like a sensible decision. There is no point spending similar money on gear today than you did 12 years ago. You will need to spend circa 3x more to get a significant improvement and it may not be worth it.
Are Triangle a french manufacturer? I remember briefly hearing a pair in France many years ago. They had a distinct sound.
Yes, they are french 😉
5:10 Never heard proof of a RUclipsr being completely sober when recording a video (or felt the need for it) but you have, very convincingly I might add, provided the evidence for that!
That was a tricky B-roll shot to do on my iPad without a gimbal. It is all about getting your foot position right and keeping your balance. Sat here now with a glass of wine in hand responding to comments 🍷😉
A British Audiophile
Cheers! 👍
I really thought you were going to end up not liking them. At any rate a thrown forward image and a minimization of side reflections..yeah I do not think would be for me. Kind of disappointing because I have always liked the looks of Triangle. Still enjoying my Sonus Faber Olympica Is paired with McIntosh tubegear.
Hi Pete, they are not for everybody but have a beautiful tonality 😉
I am French and lived in the UK for 12 years before. I have had my fare share of French and English speakers, currently owning Focal speakers and I still have some 20 years old Triangle Antal speakers. I tremendously enjoyed the ruthless ATC scm20 when living in the UK.A very good friend there owned your Proac Response 1 SC and I spent many nights listening to those singing beauties. French and British people don't sound the same for sure and the extra politeness of the British can be found in their speakers (may be not ATC).
British rooms are not that large on average and I was wondering what is the size of your listening room? If your listening position is close to the back wall, I would expect a slightly muddied sound from this speaker, which could explain some of your impressions. Back in my 3.5m by 4m listening room in the UK, I tried by failed to integrate floorstanding speakers in a satisfactory manner.
Hi les, my room is about just under 4m wide and 8m long. Half way along in widens at the back to about 6m. These speakers are on the large side, I wouldn’t want to try to accommodate anything bigger as they need quite a bit of space around them. I listen about 2.5 to 3m away from the speakers.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 You have a nice room for a pair of floorstanders then! Very good review in any case, I like your combination of scientific and subjective explanations.
Thank you les😉👍
Hey buddy I keep coming across a lot of your videos and they’re all very informative you’ve helped me in the past and deciding on simple set ups for my basement and my bedroom all which I am very happy in making those decisions I was wondering what is your current living room set up if you don’t mind me asking I would like to know what amplifier and sources and speakers are you using if you don’t mind me asking unless you have a video That you can direct me to thanks for any information that you can give me
Hi Felix, I did do a video on my room set up when I started my channel last year. The only thing that has changed is that I am running an Auralic Aries Mini as the primary source instead of the Toshiba Notebook. Link below...
ruclips.net/video/WRLexTI1ZM8/видео.html
A British Audiophile Thank you so much for the link and the info going to view it right now
Amazing review as always buddy I have one question that’s off-topic. I wanted to put a small little system together for light and low level listening in my bedroom I was wondering why integrated amplifier would you recommend because I am definitely not going to go with separates and pay a fortune and watch speakers would you recommend I would like to keep the budget under $1500 US for a set of speakers and a simple integrated amplifier thank you so much I would appreciate any advice that you can give me on this
Thank you Felix. Very much appreciated. I would go actives. They take up less space have generally much better grip and control compared to their passive alternatives. Great for low level listening. In the U.K. the choice for me would be easy, Acoustic energy AE1s but I suspect they are better value here than overseas. I also really like the Elac Navis ARB-51 which are more widely available. A bit more than $1,500 but have amplifiers built in. I hope that helps. Thank you for watching 😉👍
A British Audiophile Thank you very much that actually helps tremendously I would’ve never thought of going that direction but it makes more sense takes up less space and less to worry about I really appreciate it I will definitely look into it thank you very much keep up the amazing work buddy enjoy your weekend
Thank you Felix. My next review will be on the active AE1s. May I recommend you watching it. My reasons for suggesting the active route may make more sense after that review. I can’t give too much away at the moment.
A British Audiophile Definitely buddy I can’t wait to see it
Hi, great video. Are they made in France or China? Regards
I can’t recall 🤔
Is there a 'french sound' to loudspeakers? I mean in general.
Hi anon, there certainly used to be a British sound years ago. Typified by the BBC LS3/5A. It was limited in bass, had a beautiful and natural midrange and rolled of highs. Not sure about a French sound as such. Triangle and Focal are both well known French speaker brands and both sound quite different. Good question. Thank you for watching 😉
Triangle-Classical Music: Baroque, Romance
Focal-Acoustic music: Rock/Blues
Nice of Adorama to provide the speaker. I wonder what it cost to ship from the US? and what carrier was used. I may want to order a pair?
They came directly from Triangle in France. Hugo, their GM, told me that they are trying to sort out a U.K. distributor. I would email them directly Vic. Very approachable guys and gals at that company.
WOW I’m not normally this early 🥇
... catches the worm. Thank you for watching 😉
Good review, however your USA pricing is way off base. As you mentrioned the new replacement equivilant from Triangle is the Signature Delta at a $9000.00 a pair USA dollars. It is very unlikely that your price shown of $1249.00 each is true. The EZ line Antal speaker that is one step below is $4500.00.
Hi Phil, I took it from the Adorama website. I think the have done a bulk deal with Triangle, hence the low price. Thank you for watching and your feedback 😉
Has nothing to do with ALL horn-loaded tweeter. I have horn-loaded tweeter and the cymbals and strings sound behind the speaker.
There is plenty of air, what you do not get is the "echo" feel from the room the recording happens, so it sounds more like your room than some other room.
Thank you for watching and sharing Bastian 😉
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Hi Руфат, thank you for the suggestions. Got a few products to review at the moment.
I have the complete opposite opinion after a 6h listening session. Its the speakers that sounded boring to me. They did not excite once. These Triangles sounded completely seperated from eachother. They did not work together to create a stage, not even 2D, f.e. the voices came from each speaker and not from a single point between the speakers. Moving them closer to eachother and more off the back wall or moving them entirely did not improve anything. They lacked dynamics as well and no real separation between instruments, no transparancy at all.
Furthermore, the buildquality was not excellent. That plastic twinbase port looked cheap, the finish didn't look great eather and the rubbery finish on the tweeter felt sticky. Could be my general expectations are too high for speakers in this price range, since they are only about 2400 euro, but then again, I would not spend that kind of money for the quality I heard.
Thank you for sharing your experiences 😊
please remove that salt lamp that sits on your stereo components. It will corrode the metal parts and eventually destroy the system.
Thank you 😊
I can’t believe you did not let us hear the speakers
Apologies, I think sound clips are entertaining but not a reliable way to judge a speakers performance. Essentially you are listening to a system through another system. Good fun all the same. Copyright infringement prevents me from doing them anymore 😉
Tarun, the echo in your room! Try fixing it first.
Hi neil, it is the 3.5mm to USB C adapter not the room. Tried a few solutions. Work in progress. The sound on this video does come out too echoey when I play it back on my system.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Thanks, I've watched your other videos, they've been fine, but this one is really harsh.
It sounds fine when I play it back through my system. I am not quite sure what the issue is neil. What are you experiencing? An echo?
I have seen/heard that Tekton speakers are very good! very sensitive aimed at tube amps.. They are meant to sound very good but can't buy them here in the UK?.. Damn..
Hi cp070476, they have some interesting designs with the multiple tweeter arrangements. I wonder how they get around comb filtering effects.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 No idea sir but the star arrangement for the midrange is supposed to be very good? I saw a vid and they awarded the 'MOAB' outstanding speaker of the show! Gotta be good. Out performed speakers well out their price range.. Look very good indeed!
Thank you cp070476. Interesting 🤔
The reality is that wife consent excludes these from any consideration. A common issue for many of us.
Hi David, I don’t think I would get away with having them in our living room for much longer either 😉
That room sounds horrible.
How can you pay so much money for audio equipment, to then place it in an untreated room? It makes no sense to me.
Edit: I take back some of what I’ve said previously. After watching your video on speaker setup, I think I understand a bit more.
So, let’s say you were a sound engineer about to do a final mix. Am I right in saying, you would also use a designed and treated studio environment? And although that may sound better from a critical listening standpoint, that room only has one intended purpose. But this room isn’t intended to be a studio environment. It’s purpose is to be a place you can enjoy quality sounding music, to your own level of listening satisfaction. Yet still have the room be kinda lively and open, so it feels you’re in a home rather than a commercial setting.
So rather than adapting the environment to work better with the speakers, audiophiles tend to try and look for the speakers that work best sonically with that specific room.
If you took the time to respond to this, it’d be much appreciated. Not being an audiophile myself, I’d like to know if my understanding of this is somewhat correct, being as a lot of audiophiles tend to just shun you the moment you mention room treatment.
I hope you have a good day.
Hi, room treatment is beneficial but many people don’t understand how much of it you need of it to make a difference. You need to know what you are doing and deal with specific problems, be it bringing down the RT60 time or flattening bass resonance peaks. The good news is that a well designed speaker with good off-axis performance can sound very good in a normal living space as long as the speakers is well chosen for the room and set up correctly. My room sounds pretty good. The problem I have is that I shoot these videos on my iPad Pro and have to convert the mic’s 3.5mm output to USB C into the iPad. There lies the problem. Thank you for watching and your feedback 😉
A British Audiophile - Hi, thanks for the response.
I feel we’re both kind of on the same page then. You’re right. Some people treat their rooms without understanding of what they’re actually doing, this sometimes results in a poorer sound. In a professional environment, the ideal is a flat frequency response, not a dead one. And too much of the wrong treatment, or even the wrong kind of treatment in places, can really kill the sound or cause a multitude of other unwanted effects.
Now I’m no expert, and I’m still trying to understand things like, what I need to do in certain rooms, why I need to do those things, how to target specific frequency ranges more effectively, and so on... So I can almost guarantee your understanding of this subject is a lot greater than mine. But I’m currently building a small home studio, and I’m nearly at the room treatment stage. So this genuinely peaked my interest, and I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Regarding my opinion of the sound of your room in the video, I just thought it sounded really lively. I agree though, that isn’t exactly the greatest of recording paths haha. But hey, I guess it’s convenient and it works. Plus, you’re producing some really good content, and that’s what matters. I also really like the fact that you don’t try to blow smoke up peoples arses. There’s too many audiophiles that do that, and it tends to give the rest a sort of ‘bad reputation’. So honestly, keep up the good work you’re doing. It can be very informative.
If you ever consider an upgrade to your audio rig though, but want to still keep it fairly portable, I’d highly recommend the Sound Devices MixPre-3 with something like a Shure SM7B. It’s a battery powered recorder, for portability and convince. I’ve not used it myself, but I know a few people who have, and I’ve heard nothing but great things about them. And the larger MixPre-10 has been used on multiple albums from bands such a Tool.
Regarding the sound of my studio control room, I think I might just get someone in to help me design something acoustically sufficient. With it not being very large, I don’t want to risk killing the sound, or wasting money having to redo it. So if you happen to know anyone from the midlands area, that you’d recommend, it’d be much appreciated.
And if you ever consider making a video covering room treatment, different listening environments, maybe even speakers with room calibration. Like monitors from Genelec, or using the Sonarworks Reference 4 software. Then I would love to hear a more in-depth opinion about the subjects.
I hope you have a great day anyway. Cheers.
Thank you The Fake News Frog🐸 I appreciate your advice on the mic and mixer choice, I certainly need it. It is not my area of expertise.
It is tricky to get good low frequency response in small rooms. They inherently have resonances further up the frequency range merely due to the dimensions. You need quite a lot of bass traps to get them under control. Start with the corners, floor to ceiling, and then take it from there. I will do a video on the subject, although my knowledge only takes me so far. I can’t justify having bass traps in my living space to the extent that they would make a difference. Fortunately, there are some work arounds. Getting the speaker position right is the main thing as you can shift the resonances out of your listening position and get a reasonable decent bass response. Also, having subs helps. One good, two even better. By moving from 2 bass sources (main speakers) to 4 bass sources (mains + subs) you can get a much flatter bass response. They are an effective active bass management solution.
The other thing I would focus on, is the RT60 time. Most studios want to get this between 0.3 and 0.7s. I personally think if it is below 1 sec for a domestic listening room, your are good. You don’t want it to be too dead as this kills spacial effects, weakens the central image and causes a dip in the frequency response at around 2khz due to head related transfer functions. Specifically, head shadowing. Also, as I test speakers, I need to determine their off axis performance and I don’t want to kill the first reflection points as this marks if there are any problems with the off axis performance of the speaker. Once again thank you for watching and contributing 😉👍
Enough talk, let's hear them.
Unfortunately, due to the size of the channel and copyright issues, I can’t do that anymore. It is a shame as I enjoyed doing the music clips for entertainment purposes and to showcase music. I don’t believe you can judge a system listening through another system though. Thank you for watching Arkman 😉
@@abritishaudiophile7314 thank you for the reply
Review PS Audio M700 please. Nobody has reviewed them.
Thank you for the suggestion Alex. I would have to reach out to the U.K. PS Audio distributor. The new integrated may be worth looking into as well.
There's lots of reviews out there of these. Including Stereophile, which has measurements. And Zero Fidelity has a video on them. I've yet to see anyone get very excited though. I think they're seriously overpriced myself. But to each his own.
HH Scott nobody on the tube has done the M700. All reviews are of the gain cell dac & s300 combo. There is an underlying current that the GCD is the weak link. I'd like some reviewers' take on the m700 without the GCD. The Stereophile review is positive - various internet opinions are positive and negative. Someone on the tube like Tarun who has experience with way more products than the average internet dude can provide a lot of value.
@@shimofo1 I see what you mean. That makes sense. I've got a preamp (Holographic Audio Pre Twenty Five) like that. I've only seen a review with the matching amp. It would be nice to see what is said about it by itself. I got a deal on it. So I didn't mind taking the leap. I will say that PS Audio gear isn't a bad deal if you've got stuff to trade in. But at full price. I wouldn't consider it myself. Those amps use Ice Power modules. Kind of outdated really.
I have an Ncore amp myself, and it's pretty good. But you've really got to be careful what you match it with, or it can completely lack emotion. For that kind of money. I would look at the new Purifi stuff myself. It's supposed to be a lot better. Did you see the new NAD that came out yesterday? It's $2k, and uses the Purifi modules. It can be bridged too, if you're stuck on the monoblock thing.
Either way. Good luck on your hunt/journey. And have a great day. ✌️
@@shimofo1 BTW I've heard that the DAC is really good in that GCD. But the preamp part isn't so good. It would be interesting to see a review, or hear it, with another preamp added to the mix.
And Audio Excellence Canada did a video on the new Stellar integrated amp, and loved it. Said they fixed the issues with the combo, and it was up their with the Hegel integrated amps. Just thought I would throw that out there. ✌️
The tweeters seem rather high well above your head sounds like they have missed the mark
Hi John, the acoustic centre of the speaker is somewhere between the tweeter and mid. It is still a little high but not a problem. If you are more than 2.5m away.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 you ever have any doings with avi S21 amplifier with phono stage, supposed to be a good phono stage and good amp, looking for one if you see one let me know in the comments I'll give you my details has to be in the UK.
I see you have those speakers towing in you seem to like that in your setup! you're not a fan of pointing straight out, your a bit limited on space specially with the sideboard there
Hi John, I have only heard the AVI stuff a couple of times at shows. Has a good reputation though. I suspect you may have to be quite patient to track down a good used example in the U.K. I play around quite a bit with positioning to get the speakers working the best I can in the room. The room places certain limitations. I usually find that some degree of toe-in tends to work.
It's only create a vast soundstage, since it's a horn, doesn't have to be ear level.
You look tired my friend.......
I am getting older and need to stop burning the candle at both ends Mick 😉
Hi Fat Rat, are you there yet?
Happy belated birthday Fat Rat ! Are you mellowing out with age or is that a stupid question? 😜
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Age! Now there's a thing or too many hi fi shows doing demos
Not during COVID Mick. Just enjoy listening to my system when everyone else is in bed. I normally use that time to research my videos or respond to comments from my listeners. I need to discipline myself and go to bed at a reasonable hour if the dark rings under my eyes have any chance of disappearing 🥱🥱🥱
That’s a lot of speaker for the price.
Hi Doug, certainly competitive with other very good floorstanders at this price point. Thank you for watching 😉