Super interesting to hear your inside perspective. But I can't help but feel there's a lot of information missing. It's very vague what your role was at Retroid. From the video I get the impression that you were an external advisor. But that wouldn't match with saying you 'created' it, and in the comments you say otherwise. So what is it? Were you employed by the company? Did they temporarily hire you? What did you do, exactly? Didn't others contribute? Claiming to have created the device requires some explanation. Otherwise you can't expect people to believe it.
@@TakiUdon I'm sorry, but unless you wrote the code, designed the shell, sourced the parts, created the electrical schematic and printed the PCBs, then you can't say you created the whole device, let alone any single component. A lot more goes into creating the device than picking an SoC and shell design from someone else's output. Moreover, it takes away from the people that actually did that work.
Yeah, I was actually waiting for the part where he was "creating" it. All I heard was I suggested, I asked, I gave feedback, I didn't like, I liked. Not quite the same tbh. lol Whining about things and asking to do better is not the same as creating.
I agree. He provided feedback and some guidance but I'm sure there were other people who had a greater input. I honestly don't like that he purposefully titled the video misleadingly. What's so hard about just saying "Hey, I helped!". Saying you created it makes it seem like no one else helped or had any input.
*Ok, you were either dishonest in the past or you are being dishonest now.* When you promoted Retroid Pocket in the past (for RP2, RP2+ and so on) and encouraged people to buy their products, you said you had given "some input" on the design of the RP3, while presenting yourself as NOT working for them. You only started to talk about it in details when you parted ways with Retroid on the RP3 launch. Before that it was (more or less) hidden. NOW you say you CREATED the RP3 design, which means you did work for Retroid and your implication was on a much bigger scale you implied, meaning you DID have an interest in people buying their products (for a potential collaboration on a Retroid Pocket 4, 5, etc) and you were not honestly reviewing their products until you parted ways with them. When I look at the comments here and compare it to Reddit or on some other RUclipsrs' videos, I fear you'll be deleting my comment. Hope I'm wrong, but we'll see.
1. I did not talk about the RP3 while reviewing or making videos on the RP2/2+. 2. I did not work for Retroid. 3. People buying something that I designed/helped to build has/had zero bearing on being able to design/help to build other handhelds.
@@TakiUdon You reviewed the RP2 and the RP2+ and encouraged people to buy those devices. You ALSO said (on your video advising people not to buy the RP3) that the RP3 was built BEFORE the launch of the RP2+ but had been delayed for months due to major issues. Which means, based on what YOU said, that when you covered the RP2+ in your videos, you had already designed the RP3 and were actively collaborating with Retroid (something which wasn't fully disclosed until your RP3 video). There's a difference between "being sent an early copy" or "giving some advices on ergonomics" and "fully designing/creating a device" (while not disclosing your full involvement with said company when reviewing their products). So either you created the RP3 (which means you WERE working with Retroid, whether you were being paid or not), or you're tryinng to take credit for something that isn't yours. In all cases, some things don't add up in your explanations.
For someone who's claiming to have designed this device you sure say "I don't know how this ended up this way" A LOT. Sounds like maybe you weren't as involved as you thought?
I didnt buy an rp3 or 3 plus because of your original video..but this video espeically after everyone elses is making me wish I did. This entire video imo you do not come off like you usually do. Not a good look imo
Love my Retroid Pocket 3+. Its a solid device, especially with the Vita buttons mod. Would love to see a more powerful version in the future, similar if not the same design with analogue triggers and better thumb sticks.
@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie I love this thing, and yes Xbox Game pass is playable. However, the screen is a little small for modern titles. My two cents would be to look for something with a touch bigger screen if cloud gaming is important, perhaps Ayn Odin?
@@Chazz-Gaming This was very helpful, I like the Retroid pocket however I am going to look into other options as well. However I am considering purchasing a Retroid Pocket. Thank you!
It definitely seems like it was a returned device or a test device they never reset. The RP3+ I received had the setup screen and had no ROMs. It's my favorite handheld at the moment
@@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 In January, trough the retroid page. For that price, it was my best bet in south América. I earn around $400 bucks each month in what Is here a good paying job, so a Odín was not an option.
I've owned nearly a dozen retro handhelds and the RP3 design is my favorite by far. I remember thinking when I got a switch lite that if somebody created a retro device like it, they would fly off the shelves.
I got two rp3+ for my three and five year old. It's great as it the perfect size for little hand and cheaply user repairable. I curate their library of retro games and android games. I need to work on their frontend but otherwise it great. As a parent, access to retro games and play store without worrying about cameras and facetime elements has been a great feature.
I did so much research for a mobile emulator… the fact I’m playing wind waker everywhere I’ve been going for the last week is amazing… it’s enough for me.. worth it so much thank you man. I’m my fourth grade self can’t believe it’s a pocket GameCube… I remember my laptop couldn’t even run a GameCube emulator at the time and only did gba advance… it’s amazing to see the progression and seems fun to actually design something like this.. I hope you keep improving and making more
If only it was as simple as copy the Switch Lite (even if we were to say that you improve absolutely nothing from their design). I'm sure by now you'd see plenty of good clones on the market, yet none exist.
I thought you once said that you had nothing to do with the production of these devices and knew nothing. But I guess that was when you were getting hate for it being released so shortly after the 3.
I’m using my RP3+ now while traveling. I love the feel of it personally over the RP2+. It might be the screen. I’m old, man. That extra inch or so makes a difference. I’m also amazed at what it can do for the price. SFO airport had Wi-Fi strong enough to stream games from the Xbox cloud. Streaming games! In an airport! Like, I would never have believed it was possible a year or two ago, but here we are! Thanks, Taki.
Respectfully, I disagree with your end comments. It feels like nitpicking, in my opinion. The RP3+ is the best CHEAPER handheld gaming device. There's nothing that compares to it, and it outperforms its competitors. If you're looking for a cheaper handheld that can play basically play everything up to PS1 perfectly, along with select games from higher end consoles, the RP3+ is the way to go. Not to mention the fact that the RP3+ is customizable! It truly is a great system, its kinda disappointing to hear the designer talk about it in a negative light. Still, you did a great job designing it (besides the start and select buttons, haha). Thank you! You designed a great gaming device that I, along with others, absolutely love.
You said that there is hidden power in the device that you know how to unlock, but give absolutely no details how to do it. That is kind of important to share with the community.
But that doesn't get them to fix the software and this is the same software that will be used on the Flip. It's easier for them to just fix it and OTA it out to everyone, not just people who watch me talk about it.
@@TakiUdon tbh it sounds like youre just bitter about working with them because of their different business values. I couldn't care less if they decided to ship roms for the mainland market. If they listened to you, they may have a better product, but they also may not be as profitable or still around as a company. The reality is that there are corners that need to be cut to meet launch windows and problems with suppliers, and cost cutting that needs to happen to create a financially viable product. As a designer you're breaking the cardinal rule by designing for yourself and not the market. For example, not every gives a damn about retro feeling controllers. Look at the Nintendo Switch joycons. "It's supposed to be the people's brand." Really? Who decided that? You? Who are the 'people' its really designed for? I think they made the mistake of letting in a nobody with no business or engineering or design experience into their house. Sure you helped because their design vendor sucked, but if I were them I would thank you for your contribution and definitely not keep you around going forward. You holding out on adhoc software fixes just to spite them or 'get them to see the light' is just the final straw. Tired of hearing your entitled whining. "ItS eAsY tO jUsT fIx It AnD oTa." Really? Who's gonna sponsor that? Have you ever ran a technical development project? Have you ever budgeted for a development project? I'm gonna guess no. So sit down and be quiet.
@@TakiUdon and another thing. Any moron can sit down and pick apart what is wrong with something. But if you can't come up with a solution of how to get from A to B while keeping your stakeholders happy and then execute the plan to completion, then you are just noise. No utility, just getting in the way.
@@TakiUdon whether or not that would be the best solution, the chances are they won't do that. so everyone who watches you and has this device would appreciate some advice on how to fix it ourselves
dude, i don't know if you noticed, but you get carved up on reddit for claiming your creation here.😅 I'm glad for you to be proud of your work and it's honest to build distance for implementations you didn't recommend. But isn't it a bit dangerous to tell insights about a job result you sold to retroid's property? Or is this revenge for not getting paid or something? :O
I didn't sell it to them. They wanted help to make a new brand and pitched this as the central product. There are other projects that I have been even more involved in than this, but there are also ones that my role ends at design, or some late stage in product development. If the ask on the manufacturer for something that I want to exist is too great (cost/time/difficulty), I'll offer up everything that I can do for free to make it happen. In many cases, the experience is invaluable. Those are usually the terms that I go for because some of the stuff that I pitch takes a significant investment. I also don't think this review is that harsh. The only real disappointment for me is seeing two issues that were claimed to have been fully addressed in response to my RP3 video (screen flickering/rambo app killing). Aside from that, it's just price. I can't be the only person who thinks this is too close to Odin pricing. As for Reddit, I don't care. I lived this and I know what I did. Half the people think I'm lying and the other half are arguing about semantics. Obviously other people worked on this too and I have talked about them before in videos, interviews, and on Discord, but you don't see any of them denying that this one was mine. If you exclude things that were outsourced (pcb layout, initial 3D modeling, heat solution, etc), the entire team that actively worked on this was on average 5 or so including me. Depending on the point of production, this number could go up (beta and RC testing had 2 people testing full-time) or down (painting & plastic injection mold testing was just me and one other person).
As a proud RP3+ owner, I thank you for your hard work, sir. And, for the record, I bought mine from the source here in China, and mine came with exactly no ROMs.
There’s simply too much sketch going on for me to believe you 1. you are the only one who’s ever shown their unit showed up with Roms on it 2. No film on the screen 3. Screen doesn’t say plus I think you’ve probably sourced this from a third party in China Also: you didn’t create this. Don’t be ridiculous Also do you expect your viewers to believe you’ve never watched another RUclips video of the device you allegedly “created” You’ve embarrassed yourself here bro
@@TakiUdon it may easy it does not mean that it is likely. A product you had “invested two years of your life in” you weren’t curious as to what other prominent tech/retro handheld RUclipsrs thought? That’s very hard to believe. I’ve no doubt you were clearly involved in its development - you demonstrate this effectively in the video. It’s creator? I’m sorry just no. I think you should post a redacted receipt of this order you made directly from retroid proving you ordered it from them and it came preloaded with Roms.
I never said they were trash. The only mention I ever made with the word trash in my RP3 video was on the RP2 rumble motor. The video said I didn't think the product was ready for retail.
I'm pretty happy with my RP3+. The LCD is marked without a +, but it looks great and hopefully it stays that way. The rumble is very weak, but I expected that from the RP2+. I will probably add an auxiliary motor because there isn't much room to swap a larger one in.
The rp3+ is basically a smaller switch lite with dumb start/select placements and pleasing Nintendo nostalgia colors. It's super efficient and comfortable so there's nothing wrong with that. It also has good power to price ratio which sounds like the main mission statement of the product even though it wasn't the $100 price point.
Listening to this video seem to me you have gripes with this company and your review reflects this I think. By the way I live in the States and purchased my RP3+ from official store and no roms were included and a lot of other things you said in this video are not the case with my device. You sound very biased indeed for someone who "Created this Device".
Wow, thank you for giving the company designs and feedback for the device, it looks amazing. Man, I can't believe my entire childhood of gaming could end up on a single pocket device someday.
I think the only thing you need to do is add some grippage on the back end to conform to natural hand/finger slack. Holding a thin square for long periods while actively moving thumbs can REALLY tire and ache. (Take it from an old gamer ;) )
I really hope they bring back more funtastic colors with the flip and RP3+ . Thanks for your input for the RP products Taki. I think your input made them a lot better and now Retroid is killing it in the handheld space right now.
@@Pridetoons why so offended? I'm basing my assertions on the fact that Retroid sells out of their stock right away and people on their sub reddit seem pretty excited about their products.
@@LessonsOnTheWeb I'm not offended, It's just they only came out with one good Handheld. Every handheld before this one was garbage. Retroid has a horrible Track Record when it comes to Build Quality. Also by your metric Anbernic's Win600 was "Killing it" because it sold like hotcakes when it came out and still sales to day.
I prefer the RP2 stick layout which is why I prefer my Odin Pro over my RP3. But the main reason I am cautious of the RP3+ is because I was sent a faulty RP3 & The RP3+ were up for orders within a week
They're coming out with a Retroid Pocket Flip now and you can expect the RP4 to come soon after. It's best to wait for when there is a big bump in power before upgrading.
Saying you want a $99 handheld more powerful than the rest, isn’t a design, but a mission statement. Watching this it seems like you kinda maybe art directed or creative directed the product, not designed it. Designing it means you sat down and made mock ups. Telling people you don’t like something, is just being a customer, but a lot of art directors that’s just what they do. Have no idea what they want, throw out some subjective terms that doesn’t mean anything (make it look good and very fashion), and then endlessly complain until they give up, and just accept something. If it works they take credit, if not than they blame it on the craftsmen. Worked in China for too long 😂😂
thank you, was considering gifting this to someone completely new to emulation (was going to configure it myself before gifting). considering the odin lite more now. great work taki!
You have all this insight but didn't address the really obvious elephant in the room: why on earth did they release the 3+ just THREE MONTHS after the 3? Luckily I didn't buy the 3 but a lot of people did and telling those people just 3 months after they bought it that it has been superseded was a real dick move.
I address this at the end of the video, and my sentiments are the same. One of the final things I did before leaving the project was to finalize T618 as the processor for the 3+. I would have tried to veto a 3-month launch window had I stayed, but I was overridden on the RP3 launch, so there is zero guarantee that they would have listened.
The way he’s speaking you would think he developed and manufactured the entire thing without any input.. if I were the industrial designer, PCB architect, software and hardware engineers or ICT engineers I would be pissed… you have feedback, if I gave feedback or suggestions (which I do) to Sony it wouldn’t mean that the PS5 was designed and crafted by me….
I think the roms being on the sd card may be at fault of the local seller rather than the company as a whole. I haven't heard of other people receiving their rp3/+ with roms pre-installed.
Understandable. I would feel similarly in your position and I really did think that retroid these days has been above board. Especially because I had a very good experience. Booted to the startup wizard, no roms preloaded, I even (stupidly) ordered during CNY and the customer support responded when they got back from break. Regardless, good work on this system. It’s been getting a lot of use over here.
Daaaaaamn. I like how far the user-friendly android front ends are getting ^^ the rom setup feels very off-brand freal though. Did not expect that at all 😮💨
why didnt you bother to show the settings you used for each game? they look like they run incredibly well on your device, even better than ones in other videos that have more optimized settings than default
@@TakiUdon i was mostly referring to the 3DS emulation, but i later found out that the emulator constantly gets updated. crazy how only a month ago most games were barely playable
@@TakiUdon no you didn’t. You said it yourself, you only gave suggestions. You also mentioned you don’t know why they took certain decisions, like the texture on the back. The “creator” of a device would know that, no?
As many have said in the past the design is basically a Nintendo switch light. Which is a design many of these retro handhelds seem to copy if not doing a Gameboy style. So basically nothing too innovative just copying Nintendo for the most part. I find in interesting that he mentioned other companies bringing out devices every few months when that’s exactly what retroid did with this handheld and that’s why so many customers are annoyed right now who only just recently got there retroid 3. Regardless what device everyone has I hope they enjoy plays it.
@@TakiUdon Indeed, I remember Retroid asking on RUclips which type of buttons we prefer, shorty before original RP3 launch. And since some RP2 users like me had found the RP2 buttons too stiff, I answered conductive rubber. Man was I wrong since I loved the dome switches of my first RP3 and now abit less the conductive rubber of RP3+ buttons. But it is still, IMO, the best handheld out there, I truly love my RP3+ along with the confortable official grip❤. Great job Taki 👍. Just sad for you about this drama between you and the company.
I have a Pocket 3+ on its way right now, as an upgrade from my Pocket 2+. I sincerely hope it doesn't disappoint me. But, that you were so heavily involved in its development is really encouraging. I hope Retroid start giving a toss again and fix the issues soon.
Taki, I'd love to see you review the Odroid Go Ultra. I think that with your insights into the industry and knowledge of the inner workings of these devices you would be able to a offer a fresh perspective. Thanks for the great content!
@@wordsmith451 completely disagree since I own one. Unfortunately some reviewers wrote off the device before it even had cfw. It's definitely worth consideration. Especially being significantly cheaper than its competitors and receiving updated kernel support as we speak. It's also primarily a Linux device vs the Android devices that you're taking about.
@@Andyyy982 I love Hard Kernel but I have the Odroid Go Advance and its not made as well as the chinese devices and the reviewers seem to have said the same for the OGS and OGU. I would love to support them over a chinese company but until the make a good quality handheld I'm not going to buy one from them.
The issue with all the odroid products is the quality of build and inputs. I had an OGS, and it was by far the worst quality for dpad, buttons, and analogue sticks out of any of the other handhelds I owned at the time (V90, Pocketgo s30, rg351p). Screen wasn't particularly good either, poor viewing angles.
@@retroman-- That's a different story entirely. For one the OGA was the first RK3326 handheld, as such it is responsible for a lot of the handhelds we see today as those companies all really established themselves in that era. Secondly, the OGA was a DIY kit. It was designed with simplicity in mind to help encourage assembly and a greater understanding of your devices. The OGA BE was one of the first handhelds to come with built-in wifi and it did so without any of the caveats of others like the Anbernic RG351p which was plagued with interference owing to their wifi chip placement. The OGS saw a bump in quality as it was no longer a DIY kit, despite what naysayers say. The screen was lovely, although some folks did get unit that appeared a little more washed out. But again that's still the state of handheld gaming from all of these companies from ayn to Retroid and everyone in between. The problem is some influential reviewers let loose opinions that weren't subjective, which lead to this gross misunderstanding of the quality of the Odroid products. Which in my experience of owning several Anbernic and Odroids, the Anbernic devices have been far more problematic. The RG351P I have was plagued with battery and button issues. The screen is dim. It's a dog, I've had to open it up multiple times. When I finally found the root of the trouble, it was because the battery contacts weren't soldered to the board they were just pushed together with some kapton tape over the contacts. Which is very poor assembly. I have since soldered the contacts and now the device charges and performs as it should. I've never really had cause to open my OGAs or OGS or even my OGU. I only did when I felt like spicing things up with colorful buttons, or in one case membranes.
This is absolute nonsense. What about the engineers who actually made this thing a reality? the software developers who made it all work? How can you honestly think it's ok to say this when you put 0% of the actual physical labor and time it took to make get this thing together. Also, you say you designed it but then also say you told another design company what was wrong with the ones they were making and then they came back with this. I'm done with this channel, honestly.
@@tgm.nabam101 I tried android phone + controller before I purchased a retro device and although the performance was great, the weight + size meant it wasn't the choice for me.
This has to be a return, this was not my experience at all with this handheld. I had a screen film, no roms and also when I turned it on it started at the new user menu.
I love the retroid pocket 3 + so much that I bought a second one a few months later for co op with my wife or any visitors. Great screen/ great performance in comparison to what’s on the market.
I really like the RP2+ and will hold off for another generation before upgrading. The only RP2+ complaint I can come up with is that it it can be little uncomfortable for longer sessions. The buttons still feel good, the screen ratio works for all of the systems i use, and i like the smaller form factor despite the comfort issues. What I would like to see is a 4:3 screen in a shortened RP3+ style body with a next gen performance upgrade.
If you already use android phone I recommending getting the galaxy z fold 4, with a gamesir x2 Bluetooth controller. It is 4:3, has a beautiful screen and some of the lowest input lag I've experienced on an android. It also has a Snapdragon 8 gen 2 which has plowed through every emulator I've thrown at it. I've yet to test switch but it should plow through a fair portion of that too. I searched for the right handheld for years and was surprised this folding iPad thing beats everything on the market 😂
I'm with you on Waiting 1 more Gen, maybe 2. We're so close to a pocketable handheld being able to emulate PS2. The hardware is out there, it just needs to become affordable.
So you basically contributed and a lot of r&d but you did not bank roll the actual creation or pay the staff, suppliers etc...Creation is a strong word and I don't want to be that guy but can't let this slide either. Thank you for your contribution
@@TakiUdon The retro community is grateful and too be honest you caught me in a bad mood that logged into RUclips to switch off. The bad mood was brought on by the stress off owning a business and having employees etc whom rely on having an income and indeed I value them but juggling rising costs and keeping things a float gets too you, heck I've been working for free since 2017 and all my employees are making more than me... Not that any off them know and I keep persevering but indeed it gets too you at times. Peace and Love too all
Just wanted to echo the crowd and say that my Retroid came from the official GoRetroid store (bought in the US) and came with no ROMs or SD card, and it booted to the initial setup screen. I think your system was returned and not wiped. I love my handheld too, and it is slowly becoming my primary "console"!
Uh yeah I don't fully believe you here. Like I know your extremely industry adjacent but might be better to describe your involvement as being a consultant.
Greetings from Taiwan. I bought my RP3+ from their Taobao store and it didn’t come with a SD card or any ROM inside. But I got the information from some retrogamers here that there are some 3rd party sellers would bundle that for an extra cash, and they all come preconfigured, which will skip the config startup altogether and no screen film. I suspect that the unit you got is a return unit from one of those stores, pretty common in Chinese B2B scenarios. Love your work, I enjoy this device so much, thank you.
Thanks for your contribution for the RP3+! I have an original "RP1" and the 3+ is leaps and bounds in terms of quality! I was ready to never get a Retroid device ever, until I saw reviews for the 3+. Fantastic work!
Taki, I appreciate your videos and what they've done for gaming handhelds, but, don't you feel like maybe using "I" so frequently only serves to discredit the work of the designers, engineers, and various others who work at the company? You almost make it sound as though they were leaderless and visionless prior to your involvement. If you were a consultant, they're going to use some of your ideas, and, they're going to discard others. That's how it goes. Take the experience and simply move on. You already had your say on the company last year. Having pride in your accomplishments is fine, but, this FIFTY minute video just comes off as passive-aggressive & petulant.
@@TakiUdon If you were more than a consultant, this video comes off as even worse. Anyone who considers doing business with you in the future now has to contemplate whether or not you're going to use your platform to burn them if you feel it's warranted. Hope this is the last we hear of your involvement with this company, and, I certainly hope you'd disclose any similar relationships in advance going forward.
I didn't burn them. I have valid four critiques after using the device. Four. Three that are objective, and one that is subjective. That's too harsh in your eyes?
@@TakiUdon That's a bit of a straw man. The critiques of the DEVICE, in and of themselves, taken in isolation, are fine. It's when viewed in the context of the rest of your video where I take issue. Again, your heavy implication, woven throughout the entirety of the runtime, that the folks at the company are essentially headless chickens without your involvement, is what I find harsh, not your review. Your review of a five-month old device is neither here nor there. In any case, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Let's move on and see where your channel goes next.
I love nintendo switch design, but I just really hope the smaller company retro handheld could really use more original design. I think design with slight rear grip is more practical.
@@TakiUdon It has nothing to do with this situation, it has to do with the way you talk. You make it sound like without you these people are nothing, beneath you even. Now i see on other comments youre also saying you funded this whole thing?
A lot of claims made without actual evidence in this video. Sounds like you were little more than a product tester that felt slighted by Retroid for whatever reason and are now trying to take credit for "creating" the whole thing when you didn't actually design or engineer any parts of it. Is your next video going to be about how you "created" the AYN Odin or something because you tested it before it went into production? I'm starting to question if you actually work with any of these companies or if you just have access to some of the early prototypes and mockups of these handhelds through a friend or family member that actually works there. Without showing any receipts for your claims, your claims have no weight and a handful of 3d printed mockups don't really prove anything.
" He was afraid he would go to prison by doing something like this with other products that he's sold in the past" My brother in christ is this a real easy way to get a Subpoena when the hammer drops. Be careful.
I'm happy retro actually listened to your design inputs, I love your vids and often visit your reviews as I trust your word. Quick question though- Would the sticks get the same drift that the NS has? Or have they found a way around it
Love the insight ,but I'm really confused on your relationship with the company that developed and sells the RP3 . Are you an outside contractor hired or asked for input ?
He's literally just some guy who complains to them and sends them a bunch of emails. To say he "Created" the RP3 is a massive overstatement, at most, at most he was asked for feedback on the various designs. Since he's a youtuber with a large following who could either hurt of help their reputation, it makes sense that they'd kowtow to his suggestions, but it clearly has inflated his ego.
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I just wish they’d add GameCube colored buttons to their indigo colored versions now, like a green A and red B. once that’s added, I’d be stoked. 😊
You wouldn't think so, but stuff like that makes manufacturing more costly and complicated. I agree though.
that is a very sexy handheld !
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Ah, so you're responsible too for the rp3+ horrible start&select placement?
Lol
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Nah they kept them in storage for so long that's why they were defective
And saving Retroid 50 cents by not putting decent joysticks in it?
@@CigsInABlanket the joysticks are alright they really could've been better
You didn't create the RP 3+, stop with click baiting
Sounds to me more, like you just gave consulting input on something.
Super interesting to hear your inside perspective. But I can't help but feel there's a lot of information missing. It's very vague what your role was at Retroid.
From the video I get the impression that you were an external advisor. But that wouldn't match with saying you 'created' it, and in the comments you say otherwise.
So what is it? Were you employed by the company? Did they temporarily hire you? What did you do, exactly? Didn't others contribute?
Claiming to have created the device requires some explanation. Otherwise you can't expect people to believe it.
That's why I said this video could have been 5 hours long.
@@TakiUdon I'm sorry, but unless you wrote the code, designed the shell, sourced the parts, created the electrical schematic and printed the PCBs, then you can't say you created the whole device, let alone any single component. A lot more goes into creating the device than picking an SoC and shell design from someone else's output. Moreover, it takes away from the people that actually did that work.
@@TakiUdonwhy couldn’t you answer any of this person’s questions? lol
Taki logic:
Taki: "Hey, you should make the Mona Lisa have brown hair."
Also Taki: "I created the Mona Lisa"
Not quite.
"I designed the Retroid Pocket 3! Also please ignore the fact that it looks nearly identical to a Switch Lite!"
@@IrregularInterest there are only so many ways to add modern gamepad controls to a rectangular screen
Yeah, I was actually waiting for the part where he was "creating" it. All I heard was I suggested, I asked, I gave feedback, I didn't like, I liked. Not quite the same tbh. lol Whining about things and asking to do better is not the same as creating.
I agree. He provided feedback and some guidance but I'm sure there were other people who had a greater input. I honestly don't like that he purposefully titled the video misleadingly. What's so hard about just saying "Hey, I helped!". Saying you created it makes it seem like no one else helped or had any input.
what is your relationship with the company? you say a lot that you did this and that and i find it confusing
*Ok, you were either dishonest in the past or you are being dishonest now.*
When you promoted Retroid Pocket in the past (for RP2, RP2+ and so on) and encouraged people to buy their products, you said you had given "some input" on the design of the RP3, while presenting yourself as NOT working for them. You only started to talk about it in details when you parted ways with Retroid on the RP3 launch. Before that it was (more or less) hidden.
NOW you say you CREATED the RP3 design, which means you did work for Retroid and your implication was on a much bigger scale you implied, meaning you DID have an interest in people buying their products (for a potential collaboration on a Retroid Pocket 4, 5, etc) and you were not honestly reviewing their products until you parted ways with them.
When I look at the comments here and compare it to Reddit or on some other RUclipsrs' videos, I fear you'll be deleting my comment. Hope I'm wrong, but we'll see.
1. I did not talk about the RP3 while reviewing or making videos on the RP2/2+.
2. I did not work for Retroid.
3. People buying something that I designed/helped to build has/had zero bearing on being able to design/help to build other handhelds.
@@TakiUdon You reviewed the RP2 and the RP2+ and encouraged people to buy those devices.
You ALSO said (on your video advising people not to buy the RP3) that the RP3 was built BEFORE the launch of the RP2+ but had been delayed for months due to major issues.
Which means, based on what YOU said, that when you covered the RP2+ in your videos, you had already designed the RP3 and were actively collaborating with Retroid (something which wasn't fully disclosed until your RP3 video).
There's a difference between "being sent an early copy" or "giving some advices on ergonomics" and "fully designing/creating a device" (while not disclosing your full involvement with said company when reviewing their products).
So either you created the RP3 (which means you WERE working with Retroid, whether you were being paid or not), or you're tryinng to take credit for something that isn't yours.
In all cases, some things don't add up in your explanations.
@@orakaa Yeah I don't trust this RUclipsr
@@TakiUdonyou didn’t work for Retroid. You didn’t create the product. Why continue the hyperbolic lie?
For someone who's claiming to have designed this device you sure say "I don't know how this ended up this way" A LOT. Sounds like maybe you weren't as involved as you thought?
Software changed a lot after I stopped reviewing alpha/beta builds. That all seems to have gotten worse.
Exactly! He provided input but he titled the video to make it seem like he was the mastermind and sole person responsible.
I didnt buy an rp3 or 3 plus because of your original video..but this video espeically after everyone elses is making me wish I did. This entire video imo you do not come off like you usually do. Not a good look imo
I don't see how, but okay.
Love my Retroid Pocket 3+. Its a solid device, especially with the Vita buttons mod. Would love to see a more powerful version in the future, similar if not the same design with analogue triggers and better thumb sticks.
Is it good for cloud gaming? Is it worth it to buy today?
@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie I love this thing, and yes Xbox Game pass is playable. However, the screen is a little small for modern titles. My two cents would be to look for something with a touch bigger screen if cloud gaming is important, perhaps Ayn Odin?
@@Chazz-Gaming This was very helpful, I like the Retroid pocket however I am going to look into other options as well. However I am considering purchasing a Retroid Pocket. Thank you!
You got exactly what you wanted lol
It definitely seems like it was a returned device or a test device they never reset. The RP3+ I received had the setup screen and had no ROMs. It's my favorite handheld at the moment
Same here. Mine came without a rom or a SD.
same here! i got a blank RP3 and RP3+ earlier this year. it's still questionable to say the least (that taki would get a refurbished device)..
Did you buy it in China?
@@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 In January, trough the retroid page. For that price, it was my best bet in south América. I earn around $400 bucks each month in what Is here a good paying job, so a Odín was not an option.
@@nicolasmolina8558 are you guys in mainland china? Your English is very good!
Or did you not watch the video? Lmao
I've owned nearly a dozen retro handhelds and the RP3 design is my favorite by far. I remember thinking when I got a switch lite that if somebody created a retro device like it, they would fly off the shelves.
Except the horrible horrible horrible select/start position. Hoping someone mods it to another location.
@@suhtangwong I've gotten used to it, but its also because I am a huge guy, so my index finger reaches over to click them fine :P
@@BanditTech I'm 6'4 but I still have to adjust my whole hand just to press it 🤦🏼♂️
I still much prefer the staggered thumbsticks, having them symmetrical at the bottom is a terrible choice
@@Digger-Nick but, it looks amazing!
... ... did you though?
I got two rp3+ for my three and five year old. It's great as it the perfect size for little hand and cheaply user repairable. I curate their library of retro games and android games. I need to work on their frontend but otherwise it great. As a parent, access to retro games and play store without worrying about cameras and facetime elements has been a great feature.
Including a camera would have been good for the local market, but I have some of the same thoughts as you.
Can you say you created the device when you’re a consultant?
I guess it would depend on how much the consultant did. I wasn't a consultant.
Well Anbernic did listen to many of my suggestions when they made the RG353P. I'm glad they listened.
@@TakiUdon The way the video is formatted, it makes it seem it was a consulting position.
@@Pridetoons Thank you for creating the RG353P!
I did so much research for a mobile emulator… the fact I’m playing wind waker everywhere I’ve been going for the last week is amazing… it’s enough for me.. worth it so much thank you man. I’m my fourth grade self can’t believe it’s a pocket GameCube… I remember my laptop couldn’t even run a GameCube emulator at the time and only did gba advance… it’s amazing to see the progression and seems fun to actually design something like this.. I hope you keep improving and making more
Can you share your Windwaker settings
@@dubljay0612I too would like to know of these settings 🙏🏽
Wow. It took them two years to figure out how to copy the Switch Lite's design?
If only it was as simple as copy the Switch Lite (even if we were to say that you improve absolutely nothing from their design). I'm sure by now you'd see plenty of good clones on the market, yet none exist.
It feels like he’s knocking any change they made from his original design it’s like he wasn’t included in the decision so he doesn’t like it
I thought you once said that you had nothing to do with the production of these devices and knew nothing. But I guess that was when you were getting hate for it being released so shortly after the 3.
This product predates my "why I didn't review RP3" video.
I’m using my RP3+ now while traveling. I love the feel of it personally over the RP2+. It might be the screen. I’m old, man. That extra inch or so makes a difference. I’m also amazed at what it can do for the price. SFO airport had Wi-Fi strong enough to stream games from the Xbox cloud. Streaming games! In an airport! Like, I would never have believed it was possible a year or two ago, but here we are! Thanks, Taki.
Yeah. A decent screen size is key. Otherwise the visuals are just lost.
So if you were partly responsible for the design of this device..... Why on earth did you chose to put the start + select buttons where they are?
Respectfully, I disagree with your end comments. It feels like nitpicking, in my opinion. The RP3+ is the best CHEAPER handheld gaming device. There's nothing that compares to it, and it outperforms its competitors. If you're looking for a cheaper handheld that can play basically play everything up to PS1 perfectly, along with select games from higher end consoles, the RP3+ is the way to go. Not to mention the fact that the RP3+ is customizable! It truly is a great system, its kinda disappointing to hear the designer talk about it in a negative light. Still, you did a great job designing it (besides the start and select buttons, haha). Thank you! You designed a great gaming device that I, along with others, absolutely love.
Do the people who *actually* built this care that you're taking credit for it?
Considering that I *actually* created this, no. The relevant people don't care about that at all.
@@TakiUdon ::i-made-this.gif::
@@TakiUdon You created a video bro. You're about as responsible for this product as I am for Arby's restocking the sauce after talking to the manager.
You said that there is hidden power in the device that you know how to unlock, but give absolutely no details how to do it. That is kind of important to share with the community.
But that doesn't get them to fix the software and this is the same software that will be used on the Flip. It's easier for them to just fix it and OTA it out to everyone, not just people who watch me talk about it.
@@TakiUdon Have you let them know about the issue? Because you are the only one to even notice that there is some performance problems.
@@TakiUdon tbh it sounds like youre just bitter about working with them because of their different business values. I couldn't care less if they decided to ship roms for the mainland market. If they listened to you, they may have a better product, but they also may not be as profitable or still around as a company. The reality is that there are corners that need to be cut to meet launch windows and problems with suppliers, and cost cutting that needs to happen to create a financially viable product. As a designer you're breaking the cardinal rule by designing for yourself and not the market. For example, not every gives a damn about retro feeling controllers. Look at the Nintendo Switch joycons. "It's supposed to be the people's brand." Really? Who decided that? You? Who are the 'people' its really designed for? I think they made the mistake of letting in a nobody with no business or engineering or design experience into their house. Sure you helped because their design vendor sucked, but if I were them I would thank you for your contribution and definitely not keep you around going forward. You holding out on adhoc software fixes just to spite them or 'get them to see the light' is just the final straw. Tired of hearing your entitled whining. "ItS eAsY tO jUsT fIx It AnD oTa." Really? Who's gonna sponsor that? Have you ever ran a technical development project? Have you ever budgeted for a development project? I'm gonna guess no. So sit down and be quiet.
@@TakiUdon and another thing. Any moron can sit down and pick apart what is wrong with something. But if you can't come up with a solution of how to get from A to B while keeping your stakeholders happy and then execute the plan to completion, then you are just noise. No utility, just getting in the way.
@@TakiUdon whether or not that would be the best solution, the chances are they won't do that. so everyone who watches you and has this device would appreciate some advice on how to fix it ourselves
dude, i don't know if you noticed, but you get carved up on reddit for claiming your creation here.😅
I'm glad for you to be proud of your work and it's honest to build distance for implementations you didn't recommend. But isn't it a bit dangerous to tell insights about a job result you sold to retroid's property? Or is this revenge for not getting paid or something? :O
I didn't sell it to them. They wanted help to make a new brand and pitched this as the central product. There are other projects that I have been even more involved in than this, but there are also ones that my role ends at design, or some late stage in product development. If the ask on the manufacturer for something that I want to exist is too great (cost/time/difficulty), I'll offer up everything that I can do for free to make it happen. In many cases, the experience is invaluable. Those are usually the terms that I go for because some of the stuff that I pitch takes a significant investment.
I also don't think this review is that harsh. The only real disappointment for me is seeing two issues that were claimed to have been fully addressed in response to my RP3 video (screen flickering/rambo app killing). Aside from that, it's just price. I can't be the only person who thinks this is too close to Odin pricing.
As for Reddit, I don't care. I lived this and I know what I did. Half the people think I'm lying and the other half are arguing about semantics. Obviously other people worked on this too and I have talked about them before in videos, interviews, and on Discord, but you don't see any of them denying that this one was mine. If you exclude things that were outsourced (pcb layout, initial 3D modeling, heat solution, etc), the entire team that actively worked on this was on average 5 or so including me. Depending on the point of production, this number could go up (beta and RC testing had 2 people testing full-time) or down (painting & plastic injection mold testing was just me and one other person).
This dude mad cuz this company packed their console with roms, and didn't do exactly what he wanted them to do xD!
Yes, because I like the company and I do not want them to face legal action that would close the company. Is that bad?
@@TakiUdon Going off the title of your video.. it sounds like you put the ROMs on there.
As a proud RP3+ owner, I thank you for your hard work, sir. And, for the record, I bought mine from the source here in China, and mine came with exactly no ROMs.
Did you get it with an SD card? Can you share the store name with the Chinese characters?
I bought mine from the official store, and it didn't come with an SD card full of Roms either. I am from Brazil.
I wondered if the China-market version is the only one to include ROMs, but there seems to be some conflicting info
Where can i buy this exact one with the roms already in it? Or yours?
@@LucasAndrade-wh3xk I'm sorry to hear that 😞
There’s simply too much sketch going on for me to believe you
1. you are the only one who’s ever shown their unit showed up with Roms on it
2. No film on the screen
3. Screen doesn’t say plus
I think you’ve probably sourced this from a third party in China
Also: you didn’t create this. Don’t be ridiculous
Also do you expect your viewers to believe you’ve never watched another RUclips video of the device you allegedly “created”
You’ve embarrassed yourself here bro
Do you know how easy it is to actively avoid watching a RUclips video about a specific product?
@@TakiUdon it may easy it does not mean that it is likely. A product you had “invested two years of your life in” you weren’t curious as to what other prominent tech/retro handheld RUclipsrs thought? That’s very hard to believe.
I’ve no doubt you were clearly involved in its development - you demonstrate this effectively in the video. It’s creator? I’m sorry just no.
I think you should post a redacted receipt of this order you made directly from retroid proving you ordered it from them and it came preloaded with Roms.
"I created the Retroid Pocket 3+" Sure you did, bud. What was your R&D budget? Target BOM cost?
He poured the plastic molds himself bro...
It's "I, I, I" when he talks about his ideas and "they, they, they" when he talks about flaws in the finished product.
@@ravikanodia How awfully convenient for Taki that all the issues aren't from him.
Great but didn't you trash retroid and say the 3 was garbage and you wouldn't recommend anyone buy one in one of your videos?
I never said they were trash. The only mention I ever made with the word trash in my RP3 video was on the RP2 rumble motor. The video said I didn't think the product was ready for retail.
I'm pretty happy with my RP3+. The LCD is marked without a +, but it looks great and hopefully it stays that way. The rumble is very weak, but I expected that from the RP2+. I will probably add an auxiliary motor because there isn't much room to swap a larger one in.
You really screwed up with those side and start/select placement.
The rp3+ is basically a smaller switch lite with dumb start/select placements and pleasing Nintendo nostalgia colors. It's super efficient and comfortable so there's nothing wrong with that. It also has good power to price ratio which sounds like the main mission statement of the product even though it wasn't the $100 price point.
There is something fatiguing about this video. It seemed a bit spacious. Must be my imagination, though.
Listening to this video seem to me you have gripes with this company and your review reflects this I think. By the way I live in the States and purchased my RP3+ from official store and no roms were included and a lot of other things you said in this video are not the case with my device. You sound very biased indeed for someone who "Created this Device".
No gripes. Originally planned to have price as my only con. Everything else happened while I filmed.
I just ordered one on Saturday (my first retro handheld EVER) and watching this video has me even more excited!!!
Wow, thank you for giving the company designs and feedback for the device, it looks amazing. Man, I can't believe my entire childhood of gaming could end up on a single pocket device someday.
in some ways i actually think the RP2 looks "cooler" than the RP3. there's just something about it that's aesthetically pleasing
Completely agree! I wish I could swap shells for the retro looks.
rp2 look original, rp3 look like switch lite copy
so... its a stolen switch lite design - good job?
Did you "create" your kid too or would you say you advised your wife?
haha sick burn!
I think the only thing you need to do is add some grippage on the back end to conform to natural hand/finger slack. Holding a thin square for long periods while actively moving thumbs can REALLY tire and ache. (Take it from an old gamer ;) )
I love the rp3+ really hope a similar form factor will stay
BUT put select and start in a SMART area 🤦🏿♂️
I really hope they bring back more funtastic colors with the flip and RP3+ . Thanks for your input for the RP products Taki. I think your input made them a lot better and now Retroid is killing it in the handheld space right now.
No they're not, they only made one good Handheld. You can't be this bad at math.
@@Pridetoons why so offended? I'm basing my assertions on the fact that Retroid sells out of their stock right away and people on their sub reddit seem pretty excited about their products.
@@LessonsOnTheWeb I'm not offended, It's just they only came out with one good Handheld. Every handheld before this one was garbage. Retroid has a horrible Track Record when it comes to Build Quality. Also by your metric Anbernic's Win600 was "Killing it" because it sold like hotcakes when it came out and still sales to day.
@@LessonsOnTheWeb they’re not offended, just an asshole who communicates thru condescension!
It's a long winded confusing "No" folks. Being a long time fan, I must say, I was served my 1st Taki Word Salad.
I don't believe there's a single person at this company that would say otherwise, sorry.
I prefer the RP2 stick layout which is why I prefer my Odin Pro over my RP3. But the main reason I am cautious of the RP3+ is because I was sent a faulty RP3 & The RP3+ were up for orders within a week
They're coming out with a Retroid Pocket Flip now and you can expect the RP4 to come soon after. It's best to wait for when there is a big bump in power before upgrading.
Thank god at least one other person likes the stick on the top left. I thought I was going insane
@@TheRealAncientCarthage so muche better the stick on the top left, like on switch.
@@TheRealAncientCarthageDozens of us!
I get it though, dpad on top makes more sense for all 2d games. But my main target platform is N64.
Saying you want a $99 handheld more powerful than the rest, isn’t a design, but a mission statement.
Watching this it seems like you kinda maybe art directed or creative directed the product, not designed it.
Designing it means you sat down and made mock ups. Telling people you don’t like something, is just being a customer, but a lot of art directors that’s just what they do. Have no idea what they want, throw out some subjective terms that doesn’t mean anything (make it look good and very fashion), and then endlessly complain until they give up, and just accept something. If it works they take credit, if not than they blame it on the craftsmen.
Worked in China for too long 😂😂
So Nintendo should be doing you for cloning the switch lite? Not sure if you should be proud of that.
If it was a clone of the SL, it would not have been awarded a design patent.
@@TakiUdon Do you have a link to the patent?
thank you, was considering gifting this to someone completely new to emulation (was going to configure it myself before gifting). considering the odin lite more now. great work taki!
It's a great device.
You have all this insight but didn't address the really obvious elephant in the room: why on earth did they release the 3+ just THREE MONTHS after the 3? Luckily I didn't buy the 3 but a lot of people did and telling those people just 3 months after they bought it that it has been superseded was a real dick move.
I address this at the end of the video, and my sentiments are the same. One of the final things I did before leaving the project was to finalize T618 as the processor for the 3+. I would have tried to veto a 3-month launch window had I stayed, but I was overridden on the RP3 launch, so there is zero guarantee that they would have listened.
So you designed the switch lite too right?
I'm confused how can you review something you made...
ruclips.net/video/2K5Gqp1cEcM/видео.html
@@TakiUdon Video isn't available 🤔
@@TakiUdon Ah I see now, link didn't work a few days ago cause he was hacked😂
The way he’s speaking you would think he developed and manufactured the entire thing without any input.. if I were the industrial designer, PCB architect, software and hardware engineers or ICT engineers I would be pissed… you have feedback, if I gave feedback or suggestions (which I do) to Sony it wouldn’t mean that the PS5 was designed and crafted by me….
Exactly
Could you say a few words about start and select buttons? Why are they placed on the top edge?
Why are the start and select bottons in such a strange place?
I think the roms being on the sd card may be at fault of the local seller rather than the company as a whole. I haven't heard of other people receiving their rp3/+ with roms pre-installed.
Same. Not a single person. Taki should've ordered like any normal person would've.
If it makes you feel better, mine shipped properly, with no roms or anything like that. I play it all the time and I love it.
It does, I wanted everything to be above-board.
Understandable. I would feel similarly in your position and I really did think that retroid these days has been above board. Especially because I had a very good experience. Booted to the startup wizard, no roms preloaded, I even (stupidly) ordered during CNY and the customer support responded when they got back from break. Regardless, good work on this system. It’s been getting a lot of use over here.
So you took design cues from the switch light and used them as your own? Bravo.
Daaaaaamn. I like how far the user-friendly android front ends are getting ^^ the rom setup feels very off-brand freal though. Did not expect that at all 😮💨
It’s him. He’s John Retroid.
can't wait for the proof :D
why didnt you bother to show the settings you used for each game? they look like they run incredibly well on your device, even better than ones in other videos that have more optimized settings than default
If you have something specific, I can try to help you. I generally left everything on default sans GC/Wii.
@@TakiUdon i was mostly referring to the 3DS emulation, but i later found out that the emulator constantly gets updated. crazy how only a month ago most games were barely playable
You didn’t create it, you just gave ideas and retroid worked their asses off to make it work.
No, I created it. No one there would deny that.
@@TakiUdon no you didn’t. You said it yourself, you only gave suggestions. You also mentioned you don’t know why they took certain decisions, like the texture on the back. The “creator” of a device would know that, no?
Thank you. It’s 100% the best small form factor android based retro device. It all comes together so well.
As many have said in the past the design is basically a Nintendo switch light. Which is a design many of these retro handhelds seem to copy if not doing a Gameboy style. So basically nothing too innovative just copying Nintendo for the most part. I find in interesting that he mentioned other companies bringing out devices every few months when that’s exactly what retroid did with this handheld and that’s why so many customers are annoyed right now who only just recently got there retroid 3. Regardless what device everyone has I hope they enjoy plays it.
Metal Domes D-Pad and ABXY are exceptional on RP3+
Yes, it's fine. Doing two types at the same time is strange.
@@TakiUdon Indeed, I remember Retroid asking on RUclips which type of buttons we prefer, shorty before original RP3 launch. And since some RP2 users like me had found the RP2 buttons too stiff, I answered conductive rubber. Man was I wrong since I loved the dome switches of my first RP3 and now abit less the conductive rubber of RP3+ buttons.
But it is still, IMO, the best handheld out there, I truly love my RP3+ along with the confortable official grip❤.
Great job Taki 👍. Just sad for you about this drama between you and the company.
Love my rp3+
Pretty device and functions incredibly well for it's price point
I have a Pocket 3+ on its way right now, as an upgrade from my Pocket 2+. I sincerely hope it doesn't disappoint me. But, that you were so heavily involved in its development is really encouraging. I hope Retroid start giving a toss again and fix the issues soon.
Taki, I'd love to see you review the Odroid Go Ultra. I think that with your insights into the industry and knowledge of the inner workings of these devices you would be able to a offer a fresh perspective. Thanks for the great content!
It's not even worth a look. Especially with devices on the horizon like the KT R1
@@wordsmith451 completely disagree since I own one. Unfortunately some reviewers wrote off the device before it even had cfw. It's definitely worth consideration. Especially being significantly cheaper than its competitors and receiving updated kernel support as we speak. It's also primarily a Linux device vs the Android devices that you're taking about.
@@Andyyy982 I love Hard Kernel but I have the Odroid Go Advance and its not made as well as the chinese devices and the reviewers seem to have said the same for the OGS and OGU. I would love to support them over a chinese company but until the make a good quality handheld I'm not going to buy one from them.
The issue with all the odroid products is the quality of build and inputs. I had an OGS, and it was by far the worst quality for dpad, buttons, and analogue sticks out of any of the other handhelds I owned at the time (V90, Pocketgo s30, rg351p). Screen wasn't particularly good either, poor viewing angles.
@@retroman-- That's a different story entirely. For one the OGA was the first RK3326 handheld, as such it is responsible for a lot of the handhelds we see today as those companies all really established themselves in that era. Secondly, the OGA was a DIY kit. It was designed with simplicity in mind to help encourage assembly and a greater understanding of your devices. The OGA BE was one of the first handhelds to come with built-in wifi and it did so without any of the caveats of others like the Anbernic RG351p which was plagued with interference owing to their wifi chip placement. The OGS saw a bump in quality as it was no longer a DIY kit, despite what naysayers say. The screen was lovely, although some folks did get unit that appeared a little more washed out. But again that's still the state of handheld gaming from all of these companies from ayn to Retroid and everyone in between.
The problem is some influential reviewers let loose opinions that weren't subjective, which lead to this gross misunderstanding of the quality of the Odroid products. Which in my experience of owning several Anbernic and Odroids, the Anbernic devices have been far more problematic. The RG351P I have was plagued with battery and button issues. The screen is dim. It's a dog, I've had to open it up multiple times. When I finally found the root of the trouble, it was because the battery contacts weren't soldered to the board they were just pushed together with some kapton tape over the contacts. Which is very poor assembly. I have since soldered the contacts and now the device charges and performs as it should. I've never really had cause to open my OGAs or OGS or even my OGU. I only did when I felt like spicing things up with colorful buttons, or in one case membranes.
This is absolute nonsense. What about the engineers who actually made this thing a reality? the software developers who made it all work? How can you honestly think it's ok to say this when you put 0% of the actual physical labor and time it took to make get this thing together. Also, you say you designed it but then also say you told another design company what was wrong with the ones they were making and then they came back with this. I'm done with this channel, honestly.
Among other things, I also did software development on this device.
@@TakiUdon Sure you did. We all totally believe you.
He works in retroid
Handheld largely inspired by switch lite: I didn't want it to look like Chinese companies are only good about stealing
Now it all makes sense - this is my favourite handheld. Weight, layout, power, price. It's all perfectly balanced.
My favourite handheld is my phone 🙃
@@tgm.nabam101 Stick a gamesir or a razer kishi v2 (or a mount and controller) and you got the best handheld available
@Tagum Nabam no buttons, it sucks lol
@@sycoraz my favourite gamesir x3
@@tgm.nabam101 I tried android phone + controller before I purchased a retro device and although the performance was great, the weight + size meant it wasn't the choice for me.
This has to be a return, this was not my experience at all with this handheld. I had a screen film, no roms and also when I turned it on it started at the new user menu.
Yep, he got a returned product
Dude calm down… you basically gave them a switch no big special design 😂
I love the retroid pocket 3 + so much that I bought a second one a few months later for co op with my wife or any visitors. Great screen/ great performance in comparison to what’s on the market.
I'm genuinely surprised you're doing reviews and actually working with retroid after how damning your retroid pocket three review was
I didn't review the RP3.
@@TakiUdon corrections, the damming comments you made about it. I'm glad you mended your relationship
I really like the RP2+ and will hold off for another generation before upgrading. The only RP2+ complaint I can come up with is that it it can be little uncomfortable for longer sessions. The buttons still feel good, the screen ratio works for all of the systems i use, and i like the smaller form factor despite the comfort issues. What I would like to see is a 4:3 screen in a shortened RP3+ style body with a next gen performance upgrade.
There’s the upcoming anbernic rg 405 that might work for you then
If you already use android phone I recommending getting the galaxy z fold 4, with a gamesir x2 Bluetooth controller. It is 4:3, has a beautiful screen and some of the lowest input lag I've experienced on an android. It also has a Snapdragon 8 gen 2 which has plowed through every emulator I've thrown at it. I've yet to test switch but it should plow through a fair portion of that too. I searched for the right handheld for years and was surprised this folding iPad thing beats everything on the market 😂
@@RandomizationShow Erm, it retails for ~$1700.
@@paulie-g I'm on a payment plan like any other phone. Which is why I specified if you already used android phones
I'm with you on Waiting 1 more Gen, maybe 2. We're so close to a pocketable handheld being able to emulate PS2. The hardware is out there, it just needs to become affordable.
So you basically contributed and a lot of r&d but you did not bank roll the actual creation or pay the staff, suppliers etc...Creation is a strong word and I don't want to be that guy but can't let this slide either. Thank you for your contribution
I can only say that if that is your biggest holdout, then I satisfied that requirement as well.
@@TakiUdon The retro community is grateful and too be honest you caught me in a bad mood that logged into RUclips to switch off. The bad mood was brought on by the stress off owning a business and having employees etc whom rely on having an income and indeed I value them but juggling rising costs and keeping things a float gets too you, heck I've been working for free since 2017 and all my employees are making more than me... Not that any off them know and I keep persevering but indeed it gets too you at times. Peace and Love too all
Just wanted to echo the crowd and say that my Retroid came from the official GoRetroid store (bought in the US) and came with no ROMs or SD card, and it booted to the initial setup screen. I think your system was returned and not wiped.
I love my handheld too, and it is slowly becoming my primary "console"!
Can you send the one you didn't like to me,, i don't mind their policy or piracy 🙏
Seriously, i have only retroid pocket 2
50mins of a man publicly stroking his own ego.
Not quite.
Uh yeah I don't fully believe you here. Like I know your extremely industry adjacent but might be better to describe your involvement as being a consultant.
Greetings from Taiwan. I bought my RP3+ from their Taobao store and it didn’t come with a SD card or any ROM inside. But I got the information from some retrogamers here that there are some 3rd party sellers would bundle that for an extra cash, and they all come preconfigured, which will skip the config startup altogether and no screen film. I suspect that the unit you got is a return unit from one of those stores, pretty common in Chinese B2B scenarios.
Love your work, I enjoy this device so much, thank you.
Thanks for your contribution for the RP3+! I have an original "RP1" and the 3+ is leaps and bounds in terms of quality! I was ready to never get a Retroid device ever, until I saw reviews for the 3+. Fantastic work!
I love your videos but this comes off as as pretentious
Under the circumstances, it makes sense. He was in communication with the company in for the standard RP3
Taki, I appreciate your videos and what they've done for gaming handhelds, but, don't you feel like maybe using "I" so frequently only serves to discredit the work of the designers, engineers, and various others who work at the company? You almost make it sound as though they were leaderless and visionless prior to your involvement. If you were a consultant, they're going to use some of your ideas, and, they're going to discard others. That's how it goes. Take the experience and simply move on. You already had your say on the company last year. Having pride in your accomplishments is fine, but, this FIFTY minute video just comes off as passive-aggressive & petulant.
I wasn't a consultant and I only used I for things I did.
@@TakiUdon If you were more than a consultant, this video comes off as even worse. Anyone who considers doing business with you in the future now has to contemplate whether or not you're going to use your platform to burn them if you feel it's warranted. Hope this is the last we hear of your involvement with this company, and, I certainly hope you'd disclose any similar relationships in advance going forward.
I didn't burn them. I have valid four critiques after using the device. Four. Three that are objective, and one that is subjective. That's too harsh in your eyes?
@@TakiUdon That's a bit of a straw man. The critiques of the DEVICE, in and of themselves, taken in isolation, are fine. It's when viewed in the context of the rest of your video where I take issue. Again, your heavy implication, woven throughout the entirety of the runtime, that the folks at the company are essentially headless chickens without your involvement, is what I find harsh, not your review. Your review of a five-month old device is neither here nor there. In any case, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Let's move on and see where your channel goes next.
I thought Retroid 3+ was a mocked version of a Switch Lite.
I love nintendo switch design, but I just really hope the smaller company retro handheld could really use more original design. I think design with slight rear grip is more practical.
you take way too long to say the same thing several times lmao this video did not have to be 50 minutes long
This whole video feels like he thinks hes better then everyone else im sorry but hes gotten preachy lately, holier than thou type.
Sorry you feel that way. Would love to know how you'd handle this situation though.
@@TakiUdon It has nothing to do with this situation, it has to do with the way you talk. You make it sound like without you these people are nothing, beneath you even. Now i see on other comments youre also saying you funded this whole thing?
A lot of claims made without actual evidence in this video. Sounds like you were little more than a product tester that felt slighted by Retroid for whatever reason and are now trying to take credit for "creating" the whole thing when you didn't actually design or engineer any parts of it. Is your next video going to be about how you "created" the AYN Odin or something because you tested it before it went into production? I'm starting to question if you actually work with any of these companies or if you just have access to some of the early prototypes and mockups of these handhelds through a friend or family member that actually works there. Without showing any receipts for your claims, your claims have no weight and a handful of 3d printed mockups don't really prove anything.
I don't think anyone from Retroid would disagree with my claim, sorry.
Thank you.
Odin lite it is. Shame some ideas never come to fruition.
" He was afraid he would go to prison by doing something like this with other products that he's sold in the past" My brother in christ is this a real easy way to get a Subpoena when the hammer drops. Be careful.
"created", lol
I'm happy retro actually listened to your design inputs, I love your vids and often visit your reviews as I trust your word. Quick question though- Would the sticks get the same drift that the NS has? Or have they found a way around it
The hall sensors would fix that
it's inevitable, no matter how hard you avoid reviewing it LOL!
I really like my RP3+ but I wish the analog stick and d-pad were swapped positions, like the RP2
Love the insight ,but I'm really confused on your relationship with the company that developed and sells the RP3 . Are you an outside contractor hired or asked for input ?
He's literally just some guy who complains to them and sends them a bunch of emails.
To say he "Created" the RP3 is a massive overstatement, at most, at most he was asked for feedback on the various designs.
Since he's a youtuber with a large following who could either hurt of help their reputation, it makes sense that they'd kowtow to his suggestions, but it clearly has inflated his ego.
I have RP3+ and I'm very satisfied. 👍
Why didn't you tell them to put the Start/Select buttons in a better location? 😢😢😢
It's a little more complicated than that. :\