The results were a lot more predictable though because the gap between Williams, McLaren, Ferrari and Benetton and the midfield was something like 3 seconds a lap
@@jacobmassey3897 yes but reliability used to play a huge role, and exploits were much more possible: a great opportunity for minor teams and young drivers, and a source of turns of events at any moment of the race.
Honda also made a huge leap in horse power and mid range torque mid season. They called it VTEC. Introduced it at Spa. Guess who won.. Not a Williams. McLaren made the chassis 15 kg lighter just before Hungary. Guess who won.. Not a Williams.
@@hungrysurfer9471 As a package the McLaren Honda was the best from the 1991 season. Williams passive car from 1991 was a really good car but the Williams active car from 1992 and 1993 was one of the best cars if you know how to drive those cars. Mansell knew as well as Damon Hill who used to be the tester from the Williams Team back in those days. On the other hand both Patrese and Prost never liked the active car. Too heavy to drive and both Patrese and Prost liked to put their own driving style on each and every corner which was impossible with the active car all the way active suspension and traction control made all the job instead of the driver. And that is why Patrese was faster than Mansell on the passive car from 1991. Patrick Head himself admitted Patrese was faster than Mansell on the passive car. On the active car from 1992 was a complete different scenario for both Mansell and Patrese. Mansell was almost 2 seconds faster than Patrese on a regular bases with the active car from 1992. I strongly suspect on that Williams FW14-B active car Nigel Mansell was unbeatable. No other driver would've beat Mansell driving that same car from 1992. Not Senna nor Prost. No-one. By 1994 with the new regulations the Williams car was a passive car once again like in 1991. Senna was having some problems driving that Williams and that is why the Williams Team offered Riccardo Patrese (who was retired from Formula One for the first time in 1994) to be the official tester of the 1994 Williams car all the way it was pretty much the same car Patrese was faster than Mansell in 1991. Patrese said he wanted the OK from Senna himself. So that tragic weekend at San Marino the Williams Team, Ayrton Senna and Riccardo Patrese reunited and agreed Patrese will be the official tester from the Williams team. Senna was very very happy indeed to have Patrese included as a tester in order to learn much faster the secrets of the car. Patrese was excited as well. A few hours after the meeting Senna was dead and the Williams Team offered the sit to Patrese the next week. It was all very very fast indeed. Riccardo was in shock and finally having deep doubts on the matter Patrese admitted he was very lucky to had the opportunity to drive during so many years in Formula One without never being seriously injured. The dead from Ayrton Senna was shocking for Patrese and finally he refused the offer from the Williams Team knowing very well that decision meant he was out of Formula One for good.
I miss all those ESPN guys. Met them all at the GI Joes Budweiser 200 in Portland Oregon, for maybe 10 years straight. Such good memories. Thanks guys.
Using up some fuel on the delay starts = shorter race 😕😕😮 My Beta tapes have as many international feeds as I could track and decode. Any commercial = change. Porsche had a lazy engine in the Footwork which there was only one start and 3 parade laps, no clutch excuses. Great upload Rallydick. Already subscribed.
I stopped watching for years after Senna got killed. What brought me back was Max. Max with his intensity is only second to Senna. I sure do miss the "Turbo Era" from the 80s though. Ungodly horsepower. Las Vegas coming up but I don't like street circuts.
Nice comments. I also stopped watching once Senna had passed but life goes on - started again in 95'. I'm not very technical - more sensual so I enjoyed the sound and power of the V10's till 2006. Interest went downhill really after that...the V8's were just too small ( 2.4's) and of course the turbo's now are just not the answer. Impressive technology etc but F1 should be about the spectacle not just technology - like when you hear a car on the street that makes everyone stop and say what is that?!!
Yes Ayrton Senna was magic, but I think that Piquet was just as good. The livery of the cars of those days was much sexier and the cars carried (gasp) race numbers so that we could easily tell who was who.
I remember Herbert Brundle Rosberg and others liking the layout of the esses and the fast last corner but saying it was too bumpy 1986 to 91. Then it got resurfaced before 1992 race and that was really good. Mexico became a drivers favourite. In the 1960s Stewart Surtes Clarke Hill liked the layout but not lack of safety rails.
Killed the track saddly, that turn was iconic and very fast they even could made it with more angle for cars getting even faster for the straight. The problem is we could see cars getting +380 or even higher speeds at end of the straight with DRS on and following another car but we would see alot more overtakes, those type of tracks allow lots of overtakes
Спасибо , хоть посмотрю на знаменитьй последний поворот в мексике из которого сейчас сделали пародию , в єтом повороте вообще вся сила єтой трассь бьла !!
So great to see real men in real V8’s I was a little kid and I loved F1 sadly when they started bringing in hybrid rubbish and the halo I was just disappointed you see the young guys race on motorbikes and they don’t even have a seatbelt 😜 I know Max Verstappen would love to be racing a V8 or V12 great sounding motors with no electric hybrid 💩 where they have to slow down to get more power or whatever it is I don’t really watch it much anymore. I believe they shouldn’t be able to hear from the pit and just use the old boards that way no cheating with swapping places etc. I also hate paddle shifting I think it’s been in F1 for decades but to see the olden day cars with the bloody gear stick on the outside of the car how insane. I think the cars of the 80’s were the best no computers and just full power it was awesome but then we get computers that can control so much. Still the way they drive today and the speeds it’s crazy I think I’d pass out from fear 😂 taking a corner at 100 miles an hour.
senna true master because he wasnt angel because true masters are using also a little dirty tactics. Prost was a great driver but he wasnt Senna because Senna was more meaner driver. Mansell was underrated. Also great to see finnish driver Jyrki JJ järvilehto who was a talent who make succees better off formula 1 when he won one champion title but i dont remember what it was exactly, but in formula 1 he never reachee of his all potential. once he was quite close a true big change to get one of the best top1-5 driver i remember he got injured.
Dreadful reliability in first half of the season but always rapid. Once they sorted the gearbox Williams had the best package. Mansell was an animal in that car.
Two takeaways from this video. One, the camera work and director are some of the worst I've seen for motorsports. Two, the Mexico City circuit should still use the Peraltada curve.
But what happened to Mansell (or his Williams) in the last 20 laps?! He'd been more than 25 seconds adrift of Patrese, with Senna breathing down his neck. Then some magic happened (car balance came good with less fuel?) & Nigel started to literally fly! He was under 1.5 sec to Patrese at the finish line. Real wonder!
Mansell's car was suffering from an overheating engine so he had to back off after taking the lead. Halfway through the race he adjusted the fuel mix to the engine, which fixed the overheating issue and then he could drive the car as he wanted.
I waited 30 years to watch this race for the first time, because I already knew what the story was about. But you, you cut off the battle between the Williams drivers, which is the big plot of the race! Why did you do that? You cut out the most exciting part of the race! Incredible!
Sometimes some parts of video are unable to upload (dunno why). Imola and Monaco don't have copyright parts and when they were above 200k views gets down forever
30 + entrants, 26 starters, 10 different engines, 2 makes of tyre. F1 was interesting back then.
Was "free" to enter and much more open technically.
The results were a lot more predictable though because the gap between Williams, McLaren, Ferrari and Benetton and the midfield was something like 3 seconds a lap
@@jacobmassey3897 yes but reliability used to play a huge role, and exploits were much more possible: a great opportunity for minor teams and young drivers, and a source of turns of events at any moment of the race.
@@jacobmassey3897 You reckon the results aren't predictable these days ?
@@buckfaststradler4629Field is much tighter now, I like modern F1 more, with different tyre strategists, and lot of action
🤘🏻THX❤waiting for years to see this old races in 50/60fps
luv ya bro
Difícil encontrar corridas antigas com essa qualidade de imagem
That second half of 91 season the Williams made a huge leap in development and was already the car that dominated 92.
Honda also made a huge leap in horse power and mid range torque mid season. They called it VTEC. Introduced it at Spa. Guess who won.. Not a Williams. McLaren made the chassis 15 kg lighter just before Hungary. Guess who won.. Not a Williams.
@@hungrysurfer9471 As a package the McLaren Honda was the best from the 1991 season. Williams passive car from 1991 was a really good car but the Williams active car from 1992 and 1993 was one of the best cars if you know how to drive those cars. Mansell knew as well as Damon Hill who used to be the tester from the Williams Team back in those days. On the other hand both Patrese and Prost never liked the active car. Too heavy to drive and both Patrese and Prost liked to put their own driving style on each and every corner which was impossible with the active car all the way active suspension and traction control made all the job instead of the driver. And that is why Patrese was faster than Mansell on the passive car from 1991. Patrick Head himself admitted Patrese was faster than Mansell on the passive car. On the active car from 1992 was a complete different scenario for both Mansell and Patrese. Mansell was almost 2 seconds faster than Patrese on a regular bases with the active car from 1992. I strongly suspect on that Williams FW14-B active car Nigel Mansell was unbeatable. No other driver would've beat Mansell driving that same car from 1992. Not Senna nor Prost. No-one. By 1994 with the new regulations the Williams car was a passive car once again like in 1991. Senna was having some problems driving that Williams and that is why the Williams Team offered Riccardo Patrese (who was retired from Formula One for the first time in 1994) to be the official tester of the 1994 Williams car all the way it was pretty much the same car Patrese was faster than Mansell in 1991. Patrese said he wanted the OK from Senna himself. So that tragic weekend at San Marino the Williams Team, Ayrton Senna and Riccardo Patrese reunited and agreed Patrese will be the official tester from the Williams team. Senna was very very happy indeed to have Patrese included as a tester in order to learn much faster the secrets of the car. Patrese was excited as well. A few hours after the meeting Senna was dead and the Williams Team offered the sit to Patrese the next week. It was all very very fast indeed. Riccardo was in shock and finally having deep doubts on the matter Patrese admitted he was very lucky to had the opportunity to drive during so many years in Formula One without never being seriously injured. The dead from Ayrton Senna was shocking for Patrese and finally he refused the offer from the Williams Team knowing very well that decision meant he was out of Formula One for good.
Yep if it wasn’t for reliability issues in the first Mansell probably would have won the title, or been closer.
I miss all those ESPN guys. Met them all at the GI Joes Budweiser 200 in Portland Oregon, for maybe 10 years straight. Such good memories. Thanks guys.
Using up some fuel on the delay starts = shorter race 😕😕😮 My Beta tapes have as many international feeds as I could track and decode. Any commercial = change. Porsche had a lazy engine in the Footwork which there was only one start and 3 parade laps, no clutch excuses.
Great upload Rallydick. Already subscribed.
My thanks for another video.
This is wild with the switching from BBC to ESPN to the various different international commentary feeds.
1:27:18 is the norm in contemporary Formula 1.
1:42:19 that's a bit prescient.
Back when F1 was watchable.
R.I.P. Senna 😢
I stopped watching for years after Senna got killed. What brought me back was Max. Max with his intensity is only second to Senna. I sure do miss the "Turbo Era" from the 80s though. Ungodly horsepower. Las Vegas coming up but I don't like street circuts.
Nice comments. I also stopped watching once Senna had passed but life goes on - started again in 95'. I'm not very technical - more sensual so I enjoyed the sound and power of the V10's till 2006. Interest went downhill really after that...the V8's were just too small ( 2.4's) and of course the turbo's now are just not the answer. Impressive technology etc but F1 should be about the spectacle not just technology - like when you hear a car on the street that makes everyone stop and say what is that?!!
If you don't like F1 why do you keep mentioning it keep crying hater it's still amazing today
@@MichaelSchumacherfan91 F1 today is a far cry to what it was back in the 80's.
Where's your boi Schumacher now?
A vegetable
Yes Ayrton Senna was magic, but I think that Piquet was just as good. The livery of the cars of those days was much sexier and the cars carried (gasp) race numbers so that we could easily tell who was who.
This used to be a superb track to drive. A drivers favourite like Suzuka. Then they destroyed it.
No kidding. It's a go kart track compared to this.
Massive spuds are required for the final corner.
That's BS. It was very bumpy back then, the drivers did not like it because of that.
Name one driver who said it was their favourite. Driver used to complain about it. The driver's favourite circuits were Silverstone, Spa and Suzuka.
I remember Herbert Brundle Rosberg and others liking the layout of the esses and the fast last corner but saying it was too bumpy 1986 to 91. Then it got resurfaced before 1992 race and that was really good. Mexico became a drivers favourite. In the 1960s Stewart Surtes Clarke Hill liked the layout but not lack of safety rails.
The 80s and 90s where the golden years of F1 I miss those races and teams
I hope you manage to get the full 91 season uploaded, that would be awesome!
The apogee of Formula One (from 1985 to 1992)! 😭
If you’ve ever been inside an f1 car you know going that fast in those is wild af
Olivier Grouillard Qualified for 10th place..not bad.
Possibly Patrese's greatest weekend.
Not "possibly". Riccardo himself considers this 1991 Mexico GP as his best ever win! ;)
Indeed. He put in a great performance that day.
He managed the tires perfectly.
1.03.56 - No fault Martin Brundle - Right rear wheel came adrift
4:41 Before the Stadium Section has been born..., 24 years later...
Killed the track saddly, that turn was iconic and very fast they even could made it with more angle for cars getting even faster for the straight. The problem is we could see cars getting +380 or even higher speeds at end of the straight with DRS on and following another car but we would see alot more overtakes, those type of tracks allow lots of overtakes
35:28 race starts
Thank you
The cars looked good back then.
I would say the best looking cars in F1 history existed between 1991-2008
When men were men. No boys here
It's all relitive..
Is it me, or the track had more run off area back then?
yeah it looks so tight nowadays
it doesn't help that the cars are gigantic boats now...
Larger runoff, but almost minimal safety barriers
THEY ARGUE THE CIRCUIT "IS" SAFER NOW W/O THE RUN OFFS OF THE PAST-WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?
@@PenguigTHE TYRE BARRIERS (AND THE GRAVEL RUN OFFS) WERE WHERE THEY HAD TO BE(SENNA COULDN'T SAY THE SAME AT TAMBURELLO ONLY 3 YEARS LATER...)
Not a full race though as in time 53:40, patrese was just behind Mansel and then it skip so that Patrese was like in 4 second lead😢
Yep, I need to cut some footage. Thank FOM
@@rallylodix why cut the pass for the lead ?
FOM copyrights 🤷
@@rallylodix You're saying you've got to be careful showing overtakes?
After uploading it said that this part of film (and some others) cannot be in video due FOM copyrights
AMAZING ❤ THANKS ❤ REMEMBERING SEASON F1❤ 1991 SEASON ❤
Curious that none of the broadcasts showed how Patrese passed Mansell at the early stages.
This is an amazing track... what did they do to you 😢
Amazing race! #forzaferrari 🏎️
Why aren't there the points? 😲 😞 I miss them.
I was there with my best friends smoking weed at the end if the main straight just before the braking point. Best trip ever
“Mercedes rumoured to return to F1…” wonder how that turns out… 😮
The ondoard take of Jean Alesi is incredible
35:25 race start
camera man&woman should to show more also top15-30 drivers.
Forgot how much the I missed the commentators for this broadcast.
I think appoge f1 in 1984 a 1993!!
The camera angles in general were awful!. But i do like the lack of overflowing info on screen
58:50 - Ricardo Patrese’s “GREATEST DAY”?????
🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
Lembrando corrida sem drs e tinha ultrapassagens agora porque drs ?
capelli&Gugelmin = great colour cars
Спасибо , хоть посмотрю на знаменитьй последний поворот в мексике из которого сейчас сделали пародию , в єтом повороте вообще вся сила єтой трассь бьла !!
ty
This race had more red flags than an Soviet parade.
Dennis Noyes??
How do you get so many views? I post full races and no one watches? lol
39:30 : Jean-Louis Moncet 🇲🇫
So great to see real men in real V8’s I was a little kid and I loved F1 sadly when they started bringing in hybrid rubbish and the halo I was just disappointed you see the young guys race on motorbikes and they don’t even have a seatbelt 😜 I know Max Verstappen would love to be racing a V8 or V12 great sounding motors with no electric hybrid 💩 where they have to slow down to get more power or whatever it is I don’t really watch it much anymore. I believe they shouldn’t be able to hear from the pit and just use the old boards that way no cheating with swapping places etc. I also hate paddle shifting I think it’s been in F1 for decades but to see the olden day cars with the bloody gear stick on the outside of the car how insane. I think the cars of the 80’s were the best no computers and just full power it was awesome but then we get computers that can control so much. Still the way they drive today and the speeds it’s crazy I think I’d pass out from fear 😂 taking a corner at 100 miles an hour.
1:51 “KYOSHO” ❤😊
Burger, I somehow don’t rember this driver 😂
senna true master because he wasnt angel because true masters are using also a little dirty tactics. Prost was a great driver but he wasnt Senna because Senna was more meaner driver. Mansell was underrated. Also great to see finnish driver Jyrki JJ järvilehto who was a talent who make succees better off formula 1 when he won one champion title but i dont remember what it was exactly, but in formula 1 he never reachee of his all potential. once he was quite close a true big change to get one of the best top1-5 driver i remember he got injured.
I remember the 1991 season Mansell was at his peak but the Williams as a dreadful car
Dreadful reliability in first half of the season but always rapid. Once they sorted the gearbox Williams had the best package. Mansell was an animal in that car.
Our Nige put up a good fight.
Great salad days my friends , fab times
Two takeaways from this video. One, the camera work and director are some of the worst I've seen for motorsports. Two, the Mexico City circuit should still use the Peraltada curve.
Perfect Mexico 👍
Like nobody could make out any of the sponsors on TV
Yes
But what happened to Mansell (or his Williams) in the last 20 laps?! He'd been more than 25 seconds adrift of Patrese, with Senna breathing down his neck. Then some magic happened (car balance came good with less fuel?) & Nigel started to literally fly! He was under 1.5 sec to Patrese at the finish line. Real wonder!
Patrese just backed off and brought it home.
Mansell's car was suffering from an overheating engine so he had to back off after taking the lead. Halfway through the race he adjusted the fuel mix to the engine, which fixed the overheating issue and then he could drive the car as he wanted.
adorei
35:00
missä on JJ
Jim Carrey Voice!
I waited 30 years to watch this race for the first time, because I already knew what the story was about. But you, you cut off the battle between the Williams drivers, which is the big plot of the race! Why did you do that? You cut out the most exciting part of the race! Incredible!
With that part I can't upload video. Go thank to FOM
@ FOM won’t allow you to upload the best battles of the race? why? is this the same with your other uploaded F1 races?
Sometimes some parts of video are unable to upload (dunno why). Imola and Monaco don't have copyright parts and when they were above 200k views gets down forever
The constant switching between english and french commentary is really annoying.
Nigel "nice" mansel
1k likes
Formula 1 now???? Boring as hell....
wtf? how many languages. ridiculous.
Its a gobal sport ignorant guy
The talking Americans with their American talk ruined this coverage