Thanks for putting me on to the BlueAVS Audio Video Capture Card. I haven't checked but I hope this update to Filmic is also available for Android as my phone has built in USB C.... I'm looking forward to a higher output.
I would love to see a comparison of the between recording with Filmic Pro internally and with the external Atamos recorder with the iPad just to see how much of a difference we could expect to see if we were to get USB-C on an iPhone in the future.
Just saw your other comment that on the iPad Pro the signal from USB-C is also compressed which is sad. I really hope that them wanting to push the iPhone as a true Pro camera will come with things such as uncompressed HDMI output and the required ports to do so in the future.
In Filmic Pro is the ap Firstlight to make very good photographs. I should appreciate a course in dept on Firstlight. Can't find how I can use the color histograms and what are the steps to make the best photographs. It would also be great when it is possible to go live with Clean HDMI Out directly from my gimbal (Osmo mobile 3) without a laptop. Thank you so much for your answer!
being able to use filmic pro as a webcam on your computer is brilliant, way better than the 4-5 in app purchases you have to make for the AV apps to make that happen on an iphone
Thanks for explaining this so clearly Blake! Awesome video as per. Just reviewed the OSMO 3 features which are crazy fun! Like you say this is taking Filmic Pro to the next level for sure.
This Flame works well. Haven’t tried the smaller Ninja V, but keep in mind that currently you can only record 1080 and it’s compressed via the Lightning port. So it’s really like doing a screen recording versus a high quality output. Hopefully in the next iPhones they’ll have a USB or Thunderbolt port and will be able to output an uncompressed signal. But of course you can use any monitor really as an actual external video monitor and that works well.
No it’s 1080 60fps via Lightning. The iPad Pro will send 4K 60fps via USB-C. Both are compressed, so internal is higher quality technically speaking. Planning a comparison though.
Thank you Blake. I’m assuming Filmic has auto updated, so will check in a second. Just need to start playing another video that I don’t care about, so I don’t abandon RUclips from your content. (I’m always cautious not to quit YT from creators I really like, as not to send YT negative vibes). See you hopefully. 👍🏻
Hi - amazing content and great overall tone of the videos you produce! Thank you. I see you have the Flame... I have a Ninja V and iPhone 13Pro with the HDMI adapter. I can't seem to get an image on the screen. Latest firmware and updates are in place, cables work. Tested on TV -- all ok. But can't seen to get the iPhone to Atomos Ninja V signal to lock. Any advice?
I’ve heard others have a similar issue with the Ninja V. Have you tried outputting from an iPad via USB-C? My guess is it’s the Lightning which is 1080 and not super reliable, although it does work on the Flame (which is kinda odd). I don’t have a Ninja V to test, so probably not much help I’m afraid. If I hear of anything I’ll post about it. Thanks for watching!
@@iphoneographers thank you - I did hear back from Atomos and they say it works on older products but not anything new, Ninja V included. It has been passed up as a feature request.
You mentioned a benefit of clean HDMI is for use with video conferencing servies like Zoom, 8x8 and Cisco. How could you use both apps at the same time. Is there a way, for example, in Zoom to select Filmic Pro as an input. I am trying to imagine how this would work. Thanks.
Instead of using a webcam you use your phone and Filmic Pro. Zoom or OBS Studio or whatever you use sees the HDMI input from the connected camera (could be a traditional camera too like a Sony mirrorless).
hi iphoneographers. i have a question about the iphone 11pro used with filmic pro. I do not have it but i am thinking about purchasing. I understand that the camera system has 3 lenses: ultrawide, wide, and telephoto. is it possible with the the iphone 11pro to do optical zoom from the ultrawide to the telephoto and vice versa during one unbroken shot?
Not currently. You can record and almost instantly copy to a Wi-Fi drive or to a SanDisk USB stick though. Used to have to do this with a 64GB phone. Upgraded to 256GB and it’s been no problem since.
@@iphoneographers Thank you! Do you have a video step by step of how to, "record and almost instantly copy to a Wi-Fi drive or to a SanDisk USB stick"?
Haven’t done one! But look at the WD Wireless SSD. FiLMiC Pro used to integrate with it and you would send files wirelessly as you shot… But recently they changed it to where now you connect through the Files app. And so you can shoot your clips, then copy them to the SSD right after it. Then you can delete them off your phone. Same goes for a SanDisk USB designed with the Lightning port adapter. These are available on Amazon. Btw, you can also do this with an SSD like the Samsung T5 and here’s a video on how to connect it to iPad or iPhone... ruclips.net/video/8iHc1mc5SJE/видео.html (this is for importing, but exporting is similar process).
Do you feel that it’s ness to have external monitor if you are using an iPhone i understand the big monitor for editing but why would you use external monitor with iPhone when you just look at your phone display especially when they come out with the new Oled Display in iPhone 12 thanks
Depends on the shoot. For quick stuff, no. For more involved shoots definitely yes. More people can see the screen and it’s easier to frame up and expose the image - and especially if it’s sunny.
iPhoneographers I got it do you know of any monitors $100 or less I used the filmic pro clean HDM out with big Monitor it’s super nice! I really like it!
Nice update! They should also improve their codec. If you shoot on extreme, it is almost impossible to edit. You can't even see your footage on a mac. They should put a ProRes in it.
Are you using an iPhone? The files playback on Mac. Extreme is either 100Mbps H.264 or H.265 (HEVC). Apple dictates this, not the apps. It’s possible you don’t have the HEVC codec on your computer, especially if you’re running an older OS. Check that out because again the files work fine. And yeah, ProRes would be cool, but files would unfortunately be too big for the storage size of these phones. Uncompressed HDMI out would be great though, then record ProRes to a recorder! :)
@@iphoneographers The HEVC look good on my phone, but it is really hard to edit on premiere pro. The files from my canon are a lot easier to edit. They should improve their codec.
I can’t seem to get mine to output video to any of my monitors at all. I’m shooting on the 12 pro max with Filmic Pro. Attached is the lightning to hdmi and audio jack, which then connects to my hdmi cable to either my Andycine monitor or benbox (which transmits the picture to a mobile device). But no output still.
It should work without that setting on anyway because before you could always see the output it just had the screen data on there. The obvious thing would be to do a hard restart on your phone… Possibly delete and reinstall the app (but make sure you save any video files first because they will also be deleted)… make sure your cables are good, try them on something else… You could also try it in another app or just the phone itself. The iPhone will send a signal out without using any app to do external screen recordings. Otherwise I’m not sure because this feature normally works great and I’ve used it for years. Hope you get it figured out!
The iPhone 11 Pro Max can shoot up to 4K 60fps can you record to the atmos ninja with that and get higher quality footage or would it make no difference?
Actually it wasn’t! They just added Osmo 3 support which has been long awaited. The DJI SDK wouldn’t allow it before without eliminating support for Osmo 1 or 2, which Filmic Pro didn’t want to do. Now it supports all devices including the brand new OM 4. 👍🏻
@@iphoneographers As Dennis Miller said, "but then again, I could be wrong..." I really like the OM4; the magnetic thing is taking a bit to get used to, but still like nonetheless.
Yes there are apps that do this including one from Sony called Imaging Edge. Or you could use a wireless video system with app like this ruclips.net/video/8uFpN7bxneQ/видео.html.
How do I flip the image? My setup is iPhone to adapter to capture card and into zoom, but the image is mirrored. While it’s ok my hair part is on the wrong side, when I show text it’s a disaster! Looks like Filmic will horizontal swap, but not mirror flip???? Help?!
@@iphoneographers big thx for your respon,, and nice info... but how i can get it...fyi : am using iphone 7 plus... i need your help once more to get it...because my file video want to edit on my editor apps sony vegas...
Hi - my input is showing in iphone ratio (i.e. small narrow screen with large black crop either side). It does this in all recording software. Any suggestions anyone?
Hi, iPhoneographers! I'd just like to ask about your experience on the Filmic Pro app. Have you ever tried monitoring 4K 10-bit Log v3 footage on to an external monitor? I'm in a bit of a situation because we did it manually through a lightning to digital av, HDMI to HDMI, HDMI to SDI, SDI to SDI workflow. We used the Atomos Shogun Inferno by the way. The feed lags when we roll and I'm looking into ways to fix this problem as we're planning to shoot a web series using the iPhone 12 Pro Max. I've been reading some articles and in one No Film School article, there was a mention of the Atomos Ninja V. Upon research, I found out it could loaded an H265 codec. Could this be a solution or would it most probably give the same result? Hoping for your response. Thanks so much!
2:51 Based on circulating rumours/leaks, it appears that USB C on iPhones (regular and Pro SKUs) is unlikely to happen in lieu of moving to an entirely wireless (“portless”) design. IMO I won’t hold my breathe for this to happen; even under pressure from EU, Apple has resisted this change
Oh, yeah, that's all great but what about Terrible Noisy footages coming from an iPhone 11? I made a few tests. The results are horrible.... Having ISO 32 in the brightest day light I got TERRIBLE noise in three footages!!! And the most noisy footage belongs to...., just guess, Filmic Pro, the application at USD30!!! How comes? I think it's an issue of Apple Inc. first of all. But, people...., What's going on?
If you shoot in low light there will be video noise, but keeping the ISO low (try always below 100) you should get good results especially using the standard wide f/1.8 aperture lens. If you use the Ultra Wide or Tele the results will vary and not be as clean or crisp. No idea why daylight footage is noisy unless you’re shooting Log and the shadows are underexposed.
Thanks for putting me on to the BlueAVS Audio Video Capture Card. I haven't checked but I hope this update to Filmic is also available for Android as my phone has built in USB C.... I'm looking forward to a higher output.
Not sure about Android! Let me know as definitely interested in USB-C output.
@@iphoneographers This works perfect on my LG V60!
ProRes recording on smartphone through hdmi was on my wishlist for Christmas and Christmas came early :)
Instablaster
I would love to see a comparison of the between recording with Filmic Pro internally and with the external Atamos recorder with the iPad just to see how much of a difference we could expect to see if we were to get USB-C on an iPhone in the future.
Just saw your other comment that on the iPad Pro the signal from USB-C is also compressed which is sad. I really hope that them wanting to push the iPhone as a true Pro camera will come with things such as uncompressed HDMI output and the required ports to do so in the future.
Great tutorial and tips. Have you used Filmic pro as a virtual webcam (wireless) on zoom?
Does FilmicPro do the multi cam on the iphone? Recording from the rear and front facing camera at the same time?
Yes using their DoubleTake app.
In Filmic Pro is the ap Firstlight to make very good photographs. I should appreciate a course in dept on Firstlight. Can't find how I can use the color histograms and what are the steps to make the best photographs. It would also be great when it is possible to go live with Clean HDMI Out directly from my gimbal (Osmo mobile 3) without a laptop. Thank you so much for your answer!
Open Camera App for Android has clean HDMI out and constant on, so your phone doesn't time out if you are live streaming.
Does this get rid of recording with the iPhone variable frame rate? No more audio drift ????
This is amazing! What are you using between the tripod and the phone mount to get the phone up higher off the desk?
That is a tripod extension rod. It came with the Movo tripod in the video. Not sure if it’s available on its own or not, but pretty handy accessory.
being able to use filmic pro as a webcam on your computer is brilliant, way better than the 4-5 in app purchases you have to make for the AV apps to make that happen on an iphone
Outstanding! I'm really looking forward to seeing you use it with the Osmo Mobile 3.
Thanks for explaining this so clearly Blake! Awesome video as per. Just reviewed the OSMO 3 features which are crazy fun! Like you say this is taking Filmic Pro to the next level for sure.
What Atomos Ninja monitors work best with iPhones as an external monitor? I'm looking into getting one that will work while using FiLMiC Pro
This Flame works well. Haven’t tried the smaller Ninja V, but keep in mind that currently you can only record 1080 and it’s compressed via the Lightning port. So it’s really like doing a screen recording versus a high quality output. Hopefully in the next iPhones they’ll have a USB or Thunderbolt port and will be able to output an uncompressed signal. But of course you can use any monitor really as an actual external video monitor and that works well.
Great update, but confused when you said that it will not output better quality. Will it out put the 4k 30fps from the iPhone to an Atomos (Ninja V)?
No it’s 1080 60fps via Lightning. The iPad Pro will send 4K 60fps via USB-C. Both are compressed, so internal is higher quality technically speaking. Planning a comparison though.
Thank you Blake. I’m assuming Filmic has auto updated, so will check in a second. Just need to start playing another video that I don’t care about, so I don’t abandon RUclips from your content. (I’m always cautious not to quit YT from creators I really like, as not to send YT negative vibes). See you hopefully. 👍🏻
Appreciate it! 😃
And for a Xiaomi android type c, need to buy exactly the same cables?
USB-C to HDMI adapter, otherwise yes.
What adaptor is good for using an iPad....I didn't see it in the description or notes....Thanks
Pretty much any USB-C hub with HDMI output should work or the Apple USB-C HDMI adapter.
@@iphoneographers Thank you for the prompt reply! Cheers
This is great information, thanks for sharing.
In this set up - if I was to use it to record myself during a Zoom call. What would be the best way to get quality audio? Thank you
Connect a microphone to the phone either a small shotgun style mic or a Lavalier.
@@iphoneographers Is it possible to send video out over HDMI and record audio in via external microphone using a lightening adapter? Thanks!
Hi. Is there a way to use an iPad as a monitor which is connected to an iPhone while taping in filmic pro app?
Yes the best way is to use the Filmic Remote app on the iPad to monitor & control the phone… apps.apple.com/us/app/filmic-remote/id661488661
Hi - amazing content and great overall tone of the videos you produce! Thank you. I see you have the Flame... I have a Ninja V and iPhone 13Pro with the HDMI adapter. I can't seem to get an image on the screen. Latest firmware and updates are in place, cables work. Tested on TV -- all ok. But can't seen to get the iPhone to Atomos Ninja V signal to lock. Any advice?
I’ve heard others have a similar issue with the Ninja V. Have you tried outputting from an iPad via USB-C? My guess is it’s the Lightning which is 1080 and not super reliable, although it does work on the Flame (which is kinda odd). I don’t have a Ninja V to test, so probably not much help I’m afraid. If I hear of anything I’ll post about it. Thanks for watching!
@@iphoneographers thank you - I did hear back from Atomos and they say it works on older products but not anything new, Ninja V included. It has been passed up as a feature request.
You mentioned a benefit of clean HDMI is for use with video conferencing servies like Zoom, 8x8 and Cisco. How could you use both apps at the same time. Is there a way, for example, in Zoom to select Filmic Pro as an input. I am trying to imagine how this would work. Thanks.
Filmic pro is on the phone and Zoom is on the computer, not both on the phone.
Instead of using a webcam you use your phone and Filmic Pro. Zoom or OBS Studio or whatever you use sees the HDMI input from the connected camera (could be a traditional camera too like a Sony mirrorless).
hi iphoneographers. i have a question about the iphone 11pro used with filmic pro. I do not have it but i am thinking about purchasing. I understand that the camera system has 3 lenses: ultrawide, wide, and telephoto. is it possible with the the iphone 11pro to do optical zoom from the ultrawide to the telephoto and vice versa during one unbroken shot?
No you can’t do that. You can “kind of” do it in the native app, but there’s a slight exposure shift when it goes to the tighter shot camera.
thankyou
In Filmic Pro is there anyway to record to an external storage device? My iphone storage is WAY too small. THANK YOU!!!!!
Not currently. You can record and almost instantly copy to a Wi-Fi drive or to a SanDisk USB stick though. Used to have to do this with a 64GB phone. Upgraded to 256GB and it’s been no problem since.
@@iphoneographers Thank you! Do you have a video step by step of how to, "record and almost instantly copy to a Wi-Fi drive or to a SanDisk USB stick"?
Haven’t done one! But look at the WD Wireless SSD. FiLMiC Pro used to integrate with it and you would send files wirelessly as you shot… But recently they changed it to where now you connect through the Files app. And so you can shoot your clips, then copy them to the SSD right after it. Then you can delete them off your phone. Same goes for a SanDisk USB designed with the Lightning port adapter. These are available on Amazon. Btw, you can also do this with an SSD like the Samsung T5 and here’s a video on how to connect it to iPad or iPhone... ruclips.net/video/8iHc1mc5SJE/видео.html (this is for importing, but exporting is similar process).
What kind of field monitor are you using?
Atomos Ninja Flame
Do you feel that it’s ness to have external monitor if you are using an iPhone i understand the big monitor for editing but why would you use external monitor with iPhone when you just look at your phone display especially when they come out with the new Oled Display in iPhone 12 thanks
Depends on the shoot. For quick stuff, no. For more involved shoots definitely yes. More people can see the screen and it’s easier to frame up and expose the image - and especially if it’s sunny.
iPhoneographers I got it do you know of any monitors $100 or less I used the filmic pro clean HDM out with big Monitor it’s super nice! I really like it!
iPhoneographers how can you use external monitor not big display but smaller one wireless and if possible is it better to do hdmi connection
Nice update! They should also improve their codec. If you shoot on extreme, it is almost impossible to edit. You can't even see your footage on a mac. They should put a ProRes in it.
Are you using an iPhone? The files playback on Mac. Extreme is either 100Mbps H.264 or H.265 (HEVC). Apple dictates this, not the apps.
It’s possible you don’t have the HEVC codec on your computer, especially if you’re running an older OS. Check that out because again the files work fine.
And yeah, ProRes would be cool, but files would unfortunately be too big for the storage size of these phones. Uncompressed HDMI out would be great though, then record ProRes to a recorder! :)
@@iphoneographers The HEVC look good on my phone, but it is really hard to edit on premiere pro. The files from my canon are a lot easier to edit. They should improve their codec.
I can’t seem to get mine to output video to any of my monitors at all. I’m shooting on the 12 pro max with Filmic Pro. Attached is the lightning to hdmi and audio jack, which then connects to my hdmi cable to either my Andycine monitor or benbox (which transmits the picture to a mobile device). But no output still.
There’s a setting in Filmic Pro to send out “Clean HDMI”. Make sure that’s on. It’s in the Hardware setting menu.
@@iphoneographers that is on as well
It should work without that setting on anyway because before you could always see the output it just had the screen data on there.
The obvious thing would be to do a hard restart on your phone… Possibly delete and reinstall the app (but make sure you save any video files first because they will also be deleted)… make sure your cables are good, try them on something else… You could also try it in another app or just the phone itself. The iPhone will send a signal out without using any app to do external screen recordings.
Otherwise I’m not sure because this feature normally works great and I’ve used it for years. Hope you get it figured out!
What keyboard are you using for your iMac?
Or rather where did you get the keycaps?
It's actually a pre-made keyboard, not keycaps I applied. geni.us/1tEhTMD
The iPhone 11 Pro Max can shoot up to 4K 60fps can you record to the atmos ninja with that and get higher quality footage or would it make no difference?
The lightning port only outputs 1080. You can do it on the iPad Pro but the signal is compressed.
The OSMO 3 was already supported; I used it with mine. What was added recently was the OSMO 4.
Actually it wasn’t! They just added Osmo 3 support which has been long awaited. The DJI SDK wouldn’t allow it before without eliminating support for Osmo 1 or 2, which Filmic Pro didn’t want to do. Now it supports all devices including the brand new OM 4. 👍🏻
@@iphoneographers As Dennis Miller said, "but then again, I could be wrong..." I really like the OM4; the magnetic thing is taking a bit to get used to, but still like nonetheless.
Great video Blake 🤙
Have you tried using the clean HDMI out in combo with a monitor that allows you to load LUTs?
Not yet, but the Ninja Flame does that. Planning to do some more shooting and testing and comparisons soon though.
Thanks for the info, man!
Would it be possible to use your mobile as a external monitor for your Sony camera
Yes there are apps that do this including one from Sony called Imaging Edge. Or you could use a wireless video system with app like this ruclips.net/video/8uFpN7bxneQ/видео.html.
@@iphoneographers thanks, but its lags verry hard so this is why im looking for something with hdmi and Smartphone.
livestream work with anamorphic lens?
Sure, any lens would work ok
How do I flip the image? My setup is iPhone to adapter to capture card and into zoom, but the image is mirrored. While it’s ok my hair part is on the wrong side, when I show text it’s a disaster! Looks like Filmic will horizontal swap, but not mirror flip???? Help?!
Hank Hehmsoth how about Teams?
Great video 👍
dear apple addict..please help me.. i have trouble..why file video from iphone can't play with video (audio only) with quicktime apps on my laptop.
Probably a codec issue. New iPhones shoot H.265, so make sure your computer can playback HEVC.
@@iphoneographers big thx for your respon,, and nice info... but how i can get it...fyi : am using iphone 7 plus... i need your help once more to get it...because my file video want to edit on my editor apps sony vegas...
AWESOME, thanks a lot! 😀
BRILLIANT 👍🏻
Hopefully they let you record in 4K But the view in 1080p on an external display. as it seems to not do that yet
On iPad Pro you can do 4K
How do you get the height you are getting on the phone tripod?
That’s an extension rod that connects to the 1/4”-20 base.
iPhoneographers what’s the name of the base?
That’s a Manfrotto PIXI. There’s a link in the description of the video if you’re interested.
Hi - my input is showing in iphone ratio (i.e. small narrow screen with large black crop either side). It does this in all recording software. Any suggestions anyone?
Sounds like it might be a portrait versus landscape issue? Not sure though. Try rotating the phone to see if that gets it out of that mode.
@@iphoneographers It was! screen orientation was locked. Thank you!!!
Nice & Thanks :)
Thank you❤
Hi, iPhoneographers! I'd just like to ask about your experience on the Filmic Pro app. Have you ever tried monitoring 4K 10-bit Log v3 footage on to an external monitor? I'm in a bit of a situation because we did it manually through a lightning to digital av, HDMI to HDMI, HDMI to SDI, SDI to SDI workflow. We used the Atomos Shogun Inferno by the way. The feed lags when we roll and I'm looking into ways to fix this problem as we're planning to shoot a web series using the iPhone 12 Pro Max. I've been reading some articles and in one No Film School article, there was a mention of the Atomos Ninja V. Upon research, I found out it could loaded an H265 codec. Could this be a solution or would it most probably give the same result? Hoping for your response. Thanks so much!
Thank you Blake. Always watching from Uganda. The course is fantastic.
Thanks! Great to hear.
Ok Filmic Pro ok ok we see you
Cool thank you 👊🏼🎥❤️
Lets pray apple makes a Thunderbolt 4 connection to iPhone.
2:51 Based on circulating rumours/leaks, it appears that USB C on iPhones (regular and Pro SKUs) is unlikely to happen in lieu of moving to an entirely wireless (“portless”) design. IMO I won’t hold my breathe for this to happen; even under pressure from EU, Apple has resisted this change
Yes, seems to be the case. Looks like iPhone 12 will stick with lightning for now though. Really don’t want a completely wireless device!
Oh, yeah, that's all great but what about Terrible Noisy footages coming from an iPhone 11? I made a few tests. The results are horrible.... Having ISO 32 in the brightest day light I got TERRIBLE noise in three footages!!! And the most noisy footage belongs to...., just guess, Filmic Pro, the application at USD30!!! How comes? I think it's an issue of Apple Inc. first of all. But, people...., What's going on?
If you shoot in low light there will be video noise, but keeping the ISO low (try always below 100) you should get good results especially using the standard wide f/1.8 aperture lens. If you use the Ultra Wide or Tele the results will vary and not be as clean or crisp. No idea why daylight footage is noisy unless you’re shooting Log and the shadows are underexposed.
I need a new computer. And editing software to go with. 🤔 I just vlog and fly. I just finally went on Delta. Was sorta good. 🌴🌴Aloha
try davinci resolve, its free and super good, its on pc mac and linux
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2nd....by 2 seconds!!!
Has anyone had luck doing this through Skype? It works, but the video is horrible.