Super. My railroad eats traction tires for breakfast, especially when the locomotives operate outside, so I have filled in the slots in the wheels on all but two of my locomotives. I still operate a Maerklin Relex to Kadee knuckle coupler conversion car, so those F units would be quite welcome on my railroad. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.
What a beauty both the Berlin S-Bahn as well as the F7s. I happen to have the S-Bahn with the extra third car and four F7 pairs: Santa Fe, New Haven, Rio Grande and Burlington Northern. But I only have an oval where to run my trains. I have plenty of track, semaphores, etc. but not space to build my layout.
I agree for the maintenance aspect, for the rest, that's quite a generalisation you make here... No mainstream manufacturer did anything detailed before the late 1980s. They were just making toys that cannot be compared with what came later or what is done today. Check an early 80s catalogue from Fleischmann/Roco/rivarossi/Jouef etc, there is not much difference in level of detail. Some myths have a tendency to stick for some reason, these old girls weren't that bad... I love them as they are 😉 thanks for the visit today!
With a little inspiration from you I too have gone back and made some bids on items from the 80's that I wished I had then. It's pleasantly affordable and just as magical now as then.
When I started my Marklin adventure in the 1970s, the Santa Fe F7s were my "dream" locomotive...probably still are. Thankfully Marklin has started with more American rolling stock (yes, I'm biased...I live in the US), but would love to see more from the guys and gals in Goppingen. I have one of their New York Central ALOC PA diesels, and she was pulling 35 cars like it was nobody's business.
Edit: All internaitonal Märklin fans suffered the same treatment until the 1980s 😢 Very strong ALCO by the sounds of it... Thanks for spending some of your valuable time here today 🙏
@@The3rdRail If I don't comment on each video, I thank you for making them. I would like to see Marklin come up with New York Central passenger cars, or possibly even a Hudson.
Really nice. I also have this Santa Fe set, but eventually it got repainted into the bloody nose Southern Pacific. I still have them, stored somewhere. I also had the Santa Fe caboose 4570, and that also got repainted into an SP caboose. The three were bought by my father back in the late 60s and never had a problem with them. Cheers!
Lovely catch. Congratulations. I have the F7 but a little older which I love and also the Berlin S-Bahn bought on e-bay, plus the extra third wagon which I bought last September in a used market held during a train fair in Berlin which very conveniently was being held about 200 meters away from the hotel I was staying that weekend, what a coincidence!!! In the fair was the experimental diesel ICE, a few steam locomotives, some old electric and diesel ones, the turntable was being use a lot, and I was able to ride in the cabin of a steam locomotive.
Thanks! You need one more 4019 for your S-Bahn, and you'll have a protypical "Halbzug" 😉 They ran mostly in 4 ("Halbzug") or 8 ("Ganzzug") car configuration in West Berlin. Sometimes (very early morning or very late at night), you might have caught a "Paßzug", that's a quarter unit with 2 cars only. I spent many hours travelling in them. Sounds like the fair was fun. Thanks for the visit.
Wow, the EMD F7 💓 You are an absolute bargain man. We've been looking for one used but prices on bidding sites are going mental atm. E.g., a Santa Fe F7 set with two B (middle) units and coaches..., 600 Euro as lowest starting price. A motorised A unit on its own, over 200 Euros 🙄 The B unit came out in the early 1990s as it seems, so out of your 1980s scope but it makes the set complete in our case. Well, you have fared extremely well there. The entire combination seems to be heavy but the motor can obviously handle it (of course). Question about traction tyres though, or rather perhaps an idea for you to cover some day. Of course all manuals can be found on Märklin's website with the parts list and tyre item number to be used. However, we just wished there was a simple overview of all tyres used by M through time. You'd be expecting some logic in the item numbering system but the lower or higher figure doesn't always seem to be a resp. smaller or larger tyre. Quite confusing. Perhaps we haven't found that overview yet, if it even exists. Cheerio.
@@The3rdRail Ahah, let's see if we can find the catalogues of all years 1960+ online somewhere (we have seen it somewhere). Thanks a million 🙂 Edit: found them on the site of Nico Spilt 👍
@@The3rdRail It's some sort of start. At first glance, that page in the catalogues still do not mention the actual diameter in mm of the types though and for what diameter wheels in mm. Only which loco needs what item number, but we'll get there somehow. We'll dig all the catalogues, try to find all different wheel diameters Märklin ever made 1960+ and all the exact diameters of the tyres applicable for which wheel diameters; put that in Excel. Thanks again :)
Why do you need to know the exact size? Isn't the combination of model number and tire reference enough? That has never been an issue for me, I have never needed to know the exact wheel size. That would be quite complicated to remember... You also have a reference table for a long list of common locomotives in any 1970s/80s instruction leaflet that came with a locomotive at the time (it was the same leaflet for all locos).
Excellent video as usual and looks like you got some good bargains. I have both of those sets in my collection and will get them out for some running although my Santa Fe is not running as well as it should - will need to try and find the problem.
Santa Fe OH YES one time i got to have a F7 too... remember as a kid, it was unreachable there in the window of the store... so cool that you have the Waggon that fit too ! Great Show ! Thank You! please why was there no "that little car on the end" on Passenger trains? greetings
@@The3rdRail OH thankd for that Link! so i do not need two with drivercabin =) here until 29 of Februar is "Heckeschneiden" cut all that where Birds wil settle allowed... not real fun for me... first Projekt will be my Holland Train on all that passenger cars the sides of the Boogies(?) where not with clamps just burned flat to hold with a "Lötkolben" see on my video about OH i feelt that pain, as you had to order Rail fitting Axles =O so if i have that ready, would you have then a look at my Holland Train it it fit you sight of those things? here noone else cares... gave the 231 SNCF to my girlfriend as a present to get her into that Boat *LOL* AND yes she looked your ETAT viedo too =)) OH please one Question extra! by looking your ETAT video i had a look at my Märklin 3317 BR 231 SNCF AND oh yes i hate kleinanzeigenVerk... on the right side the second Speisepumpe(?) is missing ! what would you do? there are spareparts form weinert but whitch kind of Speisepumpe i coose? afte googeling is Tolkien Speisepumpe the right one? OH yes here it goes 9,50 plus 7,- Euro shipping... in the next answer i try a link, sometimes al is removed if ther is one in text have a nice Sunday ! all the best regards sincerly yours Stefan from the North of germany =)
I like the S Bahn Unit, I have to admit I would love one of those. The Santa Fe locomotives look good. Wouldn’t interest me. My latest purchase was a 34550 BR 55 from Germany. The import duty was quite steep on it( about one third of the purchase price.)
Note the way that even with a load, the powered bogie gives a controlled start without surging dramatically. And this is not even one of Marklin's best performing power units. I have often wondered if this is the same power bogie as under the V-200 hydraulic? I wonder if you could have sourced a replacement stator or rotor for the rail car if that had proved the problem; or for the 3060? Marklin were happy to supply bits in the eighties. Finally, the 3060s seem to run hot; not a fault, just the design spec. Much enjoyed.
🙏 I have plenty of spares. People send me what they take out when doing digital conversions. This type of things is pretty easy to get in the usual places. at a push, a battered baby loco can be used a source. The v200 (3021) has a larger motor.
I love that Santa Fe loco!
On my wishlist for a long time but to expensive or to damaged..
You are lucky.
Cheers.
Thanks! Yes, I do feel lucky.
Super. My railroad eats traction tires for breakfast, especially when the locomotives operate outside, so I have filled in the slots in the wheels on all but two of my locomotives. I still operate a Maerklin Relex to Kadee knuckle coupler conversion car, so those F units would be quite welcome on my railroad. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.
Thanks for the visit today! Have a good weekend.
What a beauty both the Berlin S-Bahn as well as the F7s. I happen to have the S-Bahn with the extra third car and four F7 pairs: Santa Fe, New Haven, Rio Grande and Burlington Northern. But I only have an oval where to run my trains. I have plenty of track, semaphores, etc. but not space to build my layout.
Thanks again. One step at a time...
I love märklin loco's there not so detailed but they have great quality with a little maintenance they can run just as new like they were 70 years ago
I agree for the maintenance aspect, for the rest, that's quite a generalisation you make here... No mainstream manufacturer did anything detailed before the late 1980s. They were just making toys that cannot be compared with what came later or what is done today. Check an early 80s catalogue from Fleischmann/Roco/rivarossi/Jouef etc, there is not much difference in level of detail. Some myths have a tendency to stick for some reason, these old girls weren't that bad... I love them as they are 😉 thanks for the visit today!
With a little inspiration from you I too have gone back and made some bids on items from the 80's that I wished I had then. It's pleasantly affordable and just as magical now as then.
🤞
When I started my Marklin adventure in the 1970s, the Santa Fe F7s were my "dream" locomotive...probably still are.
Thankfully Marklin has started with more American rolling stock (yes, I'm biased...I live in the US), but would love to see more from the guys and gals in Goppingen.
I have one of their New York Central ALOC PA diesels, and she was pulling 35 cars like it was nobody's business.
Edit: All internaitonal Märklin fans suffered the same treatment until the 1980s 😢 Very strong ALCO by the sounds of it... Thanks for spending some of your valuable time here today 🙏
@@The3rdRail If I don't comment on each video, I thank you for making them.
I would like to see Marklin come up with New York Central passenger cars, or possibly even a Hudson.
Really nice. I also have this Santa Fe set, but eventually it got repainted into the bloody nose Southern Pacific. I still have them, stored somewhere. I also had the Santa Fe caboose 4570, and that also got repainted into an SP caboose. The three were bought by my father back in the late 60s and never had a problem with them. Cheers!
Glad you liked the video, happy hunting 😉
I UK Marklin friend,
Thks. For yr video, the Santa Fe was my 1st. Loco 50 years ago and still runs like te 1st. day 👌
🙏
Lovely catch. Congratulations.
I have the F7 but a little older which I love and also the Berlin S-Bahn bought on e-bay, plus the extra third wagon which I bought last September in a used market held during a train fair in Berlin which very conveniently was being held about 200 meters away from the hotel I was staying that weekend, what a coincidence!!!
In the fair was the experimental diesel ICE, a few steam locomotives, some old electric and diesel ones, the turntable was being use a lot, and I was able to ride in the cabin of a steam locomotive.
Thanks! You need one more 4019 for your S-Bahn, and you'll have a protypical "Halbzug" 😉 They ran mostly in 4 ("Halbzug") or 8 ("Ganzzug") car configuration in West Berlin. Sometimes (very early morning or very late at night), you might have caught a "Paßzug", that's a quarter unit with 2 cars only. I spent many hours travelling in them. Sounds like the fair was fun. Thanks for the visit.
Those carpet fibers can cause major troubles!
But only rarely on bullet proof vintage Märklin 😃
Very nice Santa Fe consist - really nice! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Many thanks!
I have the same Santa Fe’s, glad to see them on your layout. Thank you for the great video.
Thanks for watching!
great buy and you make working on the motors so easy I am only new so still have lots to learn cheers Alan
You can do it! Thanks for the visit.
As an American the way you pronounced caboose is correct!
you been paying attention 👍😉 Thanks for the visit!
Interesting as always, definitely will add to my wishlist these American rolling stock 😊
Sorry! 😉
I like the rail car correct choices for the Santa Fe locomotive. As well as all the other videos that honor rail car history
You are too kind, thanks for the visit.
Wow, the EMD F7 💓 You are an absolute bargain man. We've been looking for one used but prices on bidding sites are going mental atm. E.g., a Santa Fe F7 set with two B (middle) units and coaches..., 600 Euro as lowest starting price. A motorised A unit on its own, over 200 Euros 🙄 The B unit came out in the early 1990s as it seems, so out of your 1980s scope but it makes the set complete in our case. Well, you have fared extremely well there. The entire combination seems to be heavy but the motor can obviously handle it (of course).
Question about traction tyres though, or rather perhaps an idea for you to cover some day.
Of course all manuals can be found on Märklin's website with the parts list and tyre item number to be used. However, we just wished there was a simple overview of all tyres used by M through time. You'd be expecting some logic in the item numbering system but the lower or higher figure doesn't always seem to be a resp. smaller or larger tyre. Quite confusing. Perhaps we haven't found that overview yet, if it even exists. Cheerio.
Tires: Look in the catalogues, there is usually a double page table with the common consumable part references. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@@The3rdRail Ahah, let's see if we can find the catalogues of all years 1960+ online somewhere (we have seen it somewhere). Thanks a million 🙂
Edit: found them on the site of Nico Spilt 👍
🤫
@@The3rdRail It's some sort of start. At first glance, that page in the catalogues still do not mention the actual diameter in mm of the types though and for what diameter wheels in mm. Only which loco needs what item number, but we'll get there somehow. We'll dig all the catalogues, try to find all different wheel diameters Märklin ever made 1960+ and all the exact diameters of the tyres applicable for which wheel diameters; put that in Excel. Thanks again :)
Why do you need to know the exact size? Isn't the combination of model number and tire reference enough? That has never been an issue for me, I have never needed to know the exact wheel size. That would be quite complicated to remember... You also have a reference table for a long list of common locomotives in any 1970s/80s instruction leaflet that came with a locomotive at the time (it was the same leaflet for all locos).
Excellent video as usual and looks like you got some good bargains. I have both of those sets in my collection and will get them out for some running although my Santa Fe is not running as well as it should - will need to try and find the problem.
Fingers crossed! Thanks for your time today.
Santa Fe OH YES one time i got to have a F7 too... remember as a kid, it was unreachable there in the window of the store...
so cool that you have the Waggon that fit too ! Great Show ! Thank You!
please why was there no "that little car on the end" on Passenger trains?
greetings
WoW a like so fast ??
what Passengercars will fit to the Santa Fe ?
Glad you enjoyed... Caboose was for the rear brakeman and train conductor, nowhere to sit towards the back of the train otherwise.
somehting like that i'd say: www.maerklin.de/en/products/details/article/26496
@@The3rdRail Thank You =)
I am dreaming of the Blue Bird märklin Set...
@@The3rdRail OH thankd for that Link! so i do not need two with drivercabin =)
here until 29 of Februar is "Heckeschneiden" cut all that where Birds wil settle allowed...
not real fun for me... first Projekt will be my Holland Train on all that passenger cars the sides of the Boogies(?) where not with clamps just burned flat to hold with a "Lötkolben" see on my video about
OH i feelt that pain, as you had to order Rail fitting Axles =O
so if i have that ready, would you have then a look at my Holland Train it it fit you sight of those things?
here noone else cares...
gave the 231 SNCF to my girlfriend as a present to get her into that Boat *LOL* AND yes she looked your ETAT viedo too =))
OH please one Question extra!
by looking your ETAT video i had a look at my Märklin 3317 BR 231 SNCF
AND oh yes i hate kleinanzeigenVerk...
on the right side the second Speisepumpe(?) is missing !
what would you do?
there are spareparts form weinert
but whitch kind of Speisepumpe i coose?
afte googeling
is
Tolkien Speisepumpe
the right one?
OH yes here it goes 9,50 plus 7,- Euro shipping...
in the next answer i try a link, sometimes
al is removed if ther is one in text
have a nice Sunday !
all the best regards
sincerly yours
Stefan from the North of germany =)
great deal on the F-7's. So many I see are very scratched with bad decals...
Thanks!
Berlin SBahn a great unit, does it use the same chassis as the zugspitzbahn?
Indeed it is, I don't know about the Zugspitzbahn
märklin 3185, habe ich mir angesehen, die Drehgestelle sind identisch,
I like the S Bahn Unit, I have to admit I would love one of those. The Santa Fe locomotives look good. Wouldn’t interest me. My latest purchase was a 34550 BR 55 from Germany. The import duty was quite steep on it( about one third of the purchase price.)
This was bought in a UK auction. Yep duties are a killer, especially when you have to pay 20% on used goods... enough said...
Note the way that even with a load, the powered bogie gives a controlled start without surging dramatically. And this is not even one of Marklin's best performing power units. I have often wondered if this is the same power bogie as under the V-200 hydraulic? I wonder if you could have sourced a replacement stator or rotor for the rail car if that had proved the problem; or for the 3060? Marklin were happy to supply bits in the eighties. Finally, the 3060s seem to run hot; not a fault, just the design spec.
Much enjoyed.
🙏 I have plenty of spares. People send me what they take out when doing digital conversions. This type of things is pretty easy to get in the usual places. at a push, a battered baby loco can be used a source. The v200 (3021) has a larger motor.
Thanks for that; it makes sense the smaller motor runs warmer. @@The3rdRail
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