If I didn't check to see if you uploaded a new video I likely wouldn't have seen this video for now. The notif button really is hit n miss. Great video as always. Let's say you were only using Fanatec gear what would you go with?
Considering how expensive those things are for real enthusiasts (from dedicated companies) I would say Fanatec is NOT expensive. Best thing is, you can buy in the 2nd hand market and get some really sweet deals. I got myself a 911 Porsche RS3 (or was it 2) with some plastic fanatec pedals and a heavy duty metal stand for 130 EURO. Its old, and I had to clean it with alcohol to take off the dried up oils.... but its one hell of a setup for a casual like me. Currently, a CSL DD 8Nm+Podium wheel+V3 inverted pedals+shifter will set you back around 1800 EUR. You can expect to get that in ... 4 years? in 2nd hand market for 1200 EURO. (But you better be checking every day cus that will be bought fast). I already saw 1 ad for a used CSL DD for sale in Poland, but price is way too high. EDIT: Podium classic wheel that is.
@@tinyspeaker I disagree. I am not going to buy it myself (it is too expensive for how little I would use it), but for a real enthusiast all gear is expensive. The fact is that Fanatec has managed to bring the price down a lot.
It’s time Fanatec starts sending you some stuff. Hell, If I hadn’t sold all my Fanatec gear at the start of the year I would have sent it to you. I practically gave it away.
@@hexa8700 I used Fanatec hardware for the last 4 years and I wanted out of the ecosystem. Just stay away from the ClubSport shifter and the Podium line and you’ll be good.
@@ricardofrancisco7684 it’s notorious for failing. Constantly selecting the wrong gears. I had two that failed me that had to be sent in for repair. One of them twice. The first one failed in the first two months. It’s a known issue with that shifter. Just search around.
My cousin has a fanatec setup which he got for free from a friend of his who is a racecar driver and I've tested it out a few times and he has the clubsport wheel gt v2 and I LOVE the way the paddle shifters feel.
Great Video! I hope fanatec saw this video and gave you a complete set of their podium line. For sure they sold a bunch of stuff just because of your video
I wish they offered more wheels in 350mm. My actual track car wheel is 350mm, and it makes driving on the sim feel a little like a toy with the smaller wheels. 270mm is WAY smaller than most cars. The OEM E36 steering wheels are 350-370mm-ish.
@@dolovo_gaming3081 I've considered that, but then I have to bring the wheel inside, remove the quick-release, re-affix it to the one for the base, then reverse all that before I can use it in the car again. It's too much of a hassle IMO. 270mm is LAUGHABLY small, and makes the wheel feel like a toy. 330mm is the absolute smallest they should go. Most aftermarket wheels are either 330mm or 350mm.
Regarding the Flat 2 V2 and the Round 1, these are much smaller than passenger car wheels. They're meant to emulate open wheel cars, from junior level to 70s-90s F1 stuff. The 270mm diameter is far smaller than the 330-360mm you get in most passenger cars. Generally 300mm is middle of the road, whereas larger ones are more suited for GT/Road cars, and smaller 270mm wheels are more for F1 cars and open wheel cars that require faster adjustments.
Fanatec is a little much for what I would like to spend, but I'm thinking I should at least look into that H-pattern shifter. It looks nice and seems to be a little bit less pricey than a lot of their lineup
Hey OC! I was looking to get into sim racing and I was wondering what is a good first wheel for a Xbox user. Also, great content. Haven't even watched the full vid but ik its going to be a banger
as a g29 owner (the g29 is the same as g920 just for playstation) i would say for the first wheel get a g920/g29 its high quality plus its pretty easy to wheel swap the g29/g920 and for a first wheel you dont need the ffb of a tmx when you can still break your wrist when playing beamNG
nice video, to be perfect, I just miss, for someone that only knows Fanatec as a brand name, what do you need to buy for a basic setup seems you need a "hub", some podium wheels come already with it and there's the padel shifter, what mounts where, and what does one really need to buy normally it's main unit + pedals + wheel, but seems there's a bit more we need? maybe someone in the chat can help 😊👌
What's great about these products is that platform compatibility is also interchangeable to a degree. For instance... For Playstation compatibility, you need a wheel base which is compatible with Playstation, and then you can use ANY wheel, even one made for Xbox, and the wheel base will MAKE that wheel compatible with Playstation. For Xbox, you NEED an Xbox wheel, but it doesn't matter which wheel base you use. That means if you have a Playstation wheel base but want to use it on Xbox, it won't work if you use a Playstation wheel. But, put an Xbox wheel on it, and it will MAKE the wheel base compatible with Xbox. The reason for this is that the respective security chips for Playstation and Xbox are in the wheel base and wheel (respectively). I found this out after browsing the Fanatec website for some time, and it's actually brilliant, because I really wanted the McLaren V2 GT3 wheel, but my wheel base is PS compatible. Because that wheel is an Xbox wheel, and my wheel base is a PS wheel base, it actually means I can use that combination on ALL THREE PLATFORMS. Absolute genius, Fanatec!
I think you can burn this amount of cash with buying a civic + 2 track days. And you'llbe around 100 miles tops driven on the track. Meanwhile a kit like this should last for years. Sadly IRL racing is a fuckton of money. (Nonetheless I promised myself also to buy a e36 and work on it to eventually take it out for track days )
I have a set of the hanging clubsport V3 pedals so they do exist. They work as designed although I am considering changing to the more traditional floor mount design.
@@macho1212 isnt the th8a like 150 or something though? that's how much it cost me at least. in any case shifters are expensive because they're kind of a niche item in an already niche market. simply put they charge this much because they can. it's a pretty decent shifter though and the build quality is really good. it's pretty much indestructible
Because they got series in their name it sounds almost like a motorsport ranking XD. CSL: Competitive Starter League ClubSport: (Clubsport is already a rank on its own, just like you can see in gt7 café lol) Podium: For the ones who got experience with standing on the podium places.
Automobil Leather = The same Leather that in case of the RS Steering Wheel cause it’s a Porsche Replica like (918 RS Wheel) you become in a Porsche or another German Upper Class Car (BMW,Mercedes,Porsche,Audi). It’s not the Highest Leather Quality (Nappa / .....) but like the Normal or against extra pay (Past Times often)
Ok, I get that this is all really high quality and whatnot, but the 400$ drift wheel with basically no functions is kinda insane. What justifies the price point? On the other wheels, you also get leather and high quality stuff, but in addition to tactile buttons, shift and clutch pedals and maybe even a recreation of a real racing wheel from a real car, which has to be developed, designed and licensed. That kinda justifies the price for those wheels, but the drift wheel is basically a leather wrapped donut.
I guess the materials the reside with it? like carbon fiber or other type of materials that make that price? if its just typical metal, yeah its garbage, me personally though, idc if its metal, a wheel is a wheel yk if its solid ill buy it $100 tops or less
"CS Steering Wheel Drift" - $400 MOMO Drifting Steering Wheel - $260 Fanatec must be smoking a fairly serious strain of crack before setting those steering wheel prices.
I'm going to buy their v3 inverted pedals, clubsport steering wheel, shifter + handbrake. So all of these looks like top tier, but also I want to buy CSL DD + boost pack instead of DD1. So my question is, is it good enough to fit with other products? Because it costs like pedals haha.
This is really great, I've been looking at Fanatecs hardware and have been confused but this helped me out, same with the thrustmaster video, love watching your videos. Also would you say the TMX Pro or G920 are better? I saw in another comment you mentioned T248 but I heard it's releasing almost at the price of a T300
Very good video. Lots of info in a short period of time. If and when I upgrade from my Thrustmaster T300RS set up I may give Fanatec a nod. Hopefully by then they'll make all the wheels compatible with all the DD bases. I just can't see a point in buying the heavy hitter DD's just for 12 more NM's of FFB. I'm just doing this for fun, and I'm guessing I could make my T300 work for me if I really wanted to try and get any further than online racing. But I'm guessing, it's almost as hard to get on to an E Sports Team as it is a real racing team. And even then the baseline to start is IRacing, and that's a commitment in both time and money. If you don't have the time, it ain't worth the money. Especially when you can race plenty of people online in all kinds of different games.
Dude, I recommend reaching out to them first to initiate the conversation. Just shoot them a message on a couple social media platforms and see what they have to say🤷
Hi, great video! One thing tho, I'm very confused if you can mix match any wheel series with the CSL DD base? Additionally, can you do the same with the pedals, like, have Clubsport v3 pedals with the CSL DD base? Will it all work ok together?
⚠️ Thrustmaster’s Sim Racing Eco System Explained: ⚠️
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If I didn't check to see if you uploaded a new video I likely wouldn't have seen this video for now. The notif button really is hit n miss. Great video as always. Let's say you were only using Fanatec gear what would you go with?
@@densfordb4699 Probably the CSL DD since its the only one I could ~realistically~ afford...
@@OCRacing 8nm am assuming, but I mean no limitations? Maybe that could be a video series 🤔.
@@OCRacingman we need at 2024 update on this
It's good you emphasize on how ridiculously expensive certain products and accessories are, because they really are that.
Considering how expensive those things are for real enthusiasts (from dedicated companies) I would say Fanatec is NOT expensive.
Best thing is, you can buy in the 2nd hand market and get some really sweet deals.
I got myself a 911 Porsche RS3 (or was it 2) with some plastic fanatec pedals and a heavy duty metal stand for 130 EURO.
Its old, and I had to clean it with alcohol to take off the dried up oils.... but its one hell of a setup for a casual like me.
Currently, a CSL DD 8Nm+Podium wheel+V3 inverted pedals+shifter will set you back around 1800 EUR.
You can expect to get that in ... 4 years? in 2nd hand market for 1200 EURO. (But you better be checking every day cus that will be bought fast).
I already saw 1 ad for a used CSL DD for sale in Poland, but price is way too high.
EDIT: Podium classic wheel that is.
U pay what you get. Go with the Logitech if you want something cheaper
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.. It's still very expensive.
@@tinyspeaker I disagree.
I am not going to buy it myself (it is too expensive for how little I would use it), but for a real enthusiast all gear is expensive.
The fact is that Fanatec has managed to bring the price down a lot.
@@lrmcatspaw1 Umm $150 for a 180 Watt PSU is quite a markup
The idea of a manual 7 speed which can instantly switch to a sequential is unfathomably cool to me
LMAO "for those who don't use turn signals" killed me
Lmao that gave me a good chuckle too, and I drive a bmw 😂😂
For someone who’s just getting into the fanatec ecosystem this video was genuinely very helpful, and the video quality was amazing as always 💪🏻
Glad you enjoyed ☺️
The BMW turn signal joke was so unexpected but absolutely spot on.
It’s time Fanatec starts sending you some stuff. Hell, If I hadn’t sold all my Fanatec gear at the start of the year I would have sent it to you. I practically gave it away.
Why did you sell it. I just wonder becuase i will buy some fanatec gear
@@hexa8700 I used Fanatec hardware for the last 4 years and I wanted out of the ecosystem. Just stay away from the ClubSport shifter and the Podium line and you’ll be good.
@@OhItsThat what's up with the clubsport shifter?
@@OhItsThat what do you currently use?
@@ricardofrancisco7684 it’s notorious for failing. Constantly selecting the wrong gears. I had two that failed me that had to be sent in for repair. One of them twice. The first one failed in the first two months. It’s a known issue with that shifter. Just search around.
This literally feels like the Apple of Sim-Racing
😂 😂😂I thought the same thing
This series is great! And useful.
Good to hear!
Like and subscribe then
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i appreciate you making this vid made my life easier fr
My cousin has a fanatec setup which he got for free from a friend of his who is a racecar driver and I've tested it out a few times and he has the clubsport wheel gt v2 and I LOVE the way the paddle shifters feel.
Easiest way to explain their system:
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Pay 10x what the sh!t is worth and wait a year...this company must be ran by elon musk
the small jabs throughout the video made it worth the watch!!!! keep it up :D
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05:29 bro just described every form of circuit racing
Sick video, just got into Fanatec family myself so very helpful. Well deserved nap
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Great Video! I hope fanatec saw this video and gave you a complete set of their podium line. For sure they sold a bunch of stuff just because of your video
I wish 😂
@@OCRacing okay, so they didn't. Damn man
This was the video I had been searching for weeks for 🥳🙏
I love all of these subtle roasts 😂
Spectacular video. Worth every second of my time.
Thanks, William 😀 glad you enjoyed
Hilariously, the Fanatic Bentley wheel is $2K and the BMW is $1500.
I think I like my $200 McLaren V2!
I';m looking to get into simracing and I've got to say, this is a great guide. Thanks!
Thank you for these videos from each companies eco. I needed this!
I wish they offered more wheels in 350mm. My actual track car wheel is 350mm, and it makes driving on the sim feel a little like a toy with the smaller wheels. 270mm is WAY smaller than most cars. The OEM E36 steering wheels are 350-370mm-ish.
You could get the custom rim base and put your own wheel onto that.
@@dolovo_gaming3081 I've considered that, but then I have to bring the wheel inside, remove the quick-release, re-affix it to the one for the base, then reverse all that before I can use it in the car again. It's too much of a hassle IMO. 270mm is LAUGHABLY small, and makes the wheel feel like a toy. 330mm is the absolute smallest they should go. Most aftermarket wheels are either 330mm or 350mm.
if your have 6x70mm bolt pattern you can use your track car wheel on it with podium/clubsport hub (dont bother with csl hub its shit)
Regarding the Flat 2 V2 and the Round 1, these are much smaller than passenger car wheels. They're meant to emulate open wheel cars, from junior level to 70s-90s F1 stuff. The 270mm diameter is far smaller than the 330-360mm you get in most passenger cars. Generally 300mm is middle of the road, whereas larger ones are more suited for GT/Road cars, and smaller 270mm wheels are more for F1 cars and open wheel cars that require faster adjustments.
This video makes it very clear, how Fanatec ended up name-sponsoring IRL racing series
Thank you. Explained it better than their website
just what I needed
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Very nice vid mate 👌
Glad you think so :)
And please, take a comment too for the algorithm. Excellent delivery.
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Beautiful. 20 seconds and I got exactly what I needed to know❤️
I recently got interested in driving games and looking for budget DD wheel. This video is really helpful
Brilliant video man, that Train of Thought really got me! 🤣
great job on 10k subs
Thank you 🙏
@@OCRacing np man
Hopefully he does not forget us when he's over 100k...
@@manuelhernandez2017 he wont because we'll still be here
"The clubsport handbrake which I heard has a tendency to brake"
Honestly I'd be worried if it couldn't!
I'll be going now.
Delete this comment. 😂
What a great compilation. I wish I had come across your video a month ago!
Fanatec is a little much for what I would like to spend, but I'm thinking I should at least look into that H-pattern shifter. It looks nice and seems to be a little bit less pricey than a lot of their lineup
Great series! Maybe explain another brand as well haha
I did a similar video on Thrustmasters eco system.
@@OCRacing Do logitech :)
Do Simagic:)
Vegetable studio ( ac initial d content creator) uses the clubsport v3 inverted pedals and a momo Honda wheel rim
im kinda glad I chose moza after seeing this video. I feel like i just got slapped with a ton of info and thousands of dollars lol
Hey OC! I was looking to get into sim racing and I was wondering what is a good first wheel for a Xbox user. Also, great content. Haven't even watched the full vid but ik its going to be a banger
I typically recommend the G920. HOWEVER, I will be checking out the Thrustmaster T248 shortly, so stayed tuned 👀
@@OCRacing thanks so much! can't want for the t248 vid!
TMX is a good one to start with
as a g29 owner (the g29 is the same as g920 just for playstation) i would say for the first wheel get a g920/g29 its high quality plus its pretty easy to wheel swap the g29/g920 and for a first wheel you dont need the ffb of a tmx when you can still break your wrist when playing beamNG
@@dbabu51 the pro version right? I've heard that the normal versions pedals are trash
Just commenting to support you in the algorithm.
nice video, to be perfect, I just miss, for someone that only knows Fanatec as a brand name, what do you need to buy for a basic setup
seems you need a "hub", some podium wheels come already with it and there's the padel shifter, what mounts where, and what does one really need to buy
normally it's main unit + pedals + wheel, but seems there's a bit more we need?
maybe someone in the chat can help 😊👌
No mention of magnetic paddle shifters in the Clubsport lineup. Make sure you check the specs before you buy.
I find you're voice very calming.
Hi! you forgot the GT DD pro (idk if it was announced when this vid was made) that is a csl dd wheel base with xbox+ps4+pc compatabilty
What's great about these products is that platform compatibility is also interchangeable to a degree. For instance...
For Playstation compatibility, you need a wheel base which is compatible with Playstation, and then you can use ANY wheel, even one made for Xbox, and the wheel base will MAKE that wheel compatible with Playstation.
For Xbox, you NEED an Xbox wheel, but it doesn't matter which wheel base you use. That means if you have a Playstation wheel base but want to use it on Xbox, it won't work if you use a Playstation wheel. But, put an Xbox wheel on it, and it will MAKE the wheel base compatible with Xbox.
The reason for this is that the respective security chips for Playstation and Xbox are in the wheel base and wheel (respectively).
I found this out after browsing the Fanatec website for some time, and it's actually brilliant, because I really wanted the McLaren V2 GT3 wheel, but my wheel base is PS compatible. Because that wheel is an Xbox wheel, and my wheel base is a PS wheel base, it actually means I can use that combination on ALL THREE PLATFORMS. Absolute genius, Fanatec!
I wanted to get into iracing but after this it may be easier to just clap out a civic and real race
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I think you can burn this amount of cash with buying a civic + 2 track days. And you'llbe around 100 miles tops driven on the track. Meanwhile a kit like this should last for years. Sadly IRL racing is a fuckton of money. (Nonetheless I promised myself also to buy a e36 and work on it to eventually take it out for track days )
"for those of you who don't use turn signals" hahahaha love the video, man, very helpful
I have a set of the hanging clubsport V3 pedals so they do exist. They work as designed although I am considering changing to the more traditional floor mount design.
Yup, have them too. Though I wouldn't hav gotten them if I didn't get them used for 300ish €
I wish there was a good budget shifter option
(Logitech shifters needs mods to be considered "good")
TH8A Shifter
Yeah, I’m expecting a few to be released in 2022 hopefully.
@@davidk6408 200+ dollars really isn't considered budget for a lot of people.
SHH Shifter
@@macho1212 isnt the th8a like 150 or something though?
that's how much it cost me at least. in any case shifters are expensive because they're kind of a niche item in an already niche market. simply put they charge this much because they can. it's a pretty decent shifter though and the build quality is really good. it's pretty much indestructible
Donut Media is literally the only people i’ve seen use the Rennsport cockpit outside of sim racing expos
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Because they got series in their name it sounds almost like a motorsport ranking XD.
CSL: Competitive Starter League
ClubSport: (Clubsport is already a rank on its own, just like you can see in gt7 café lol)
Podium: For the ones who got experience with standing on the podium places.
Thank you, great video and explanation 👍
nice overview, thanks!
this video is criminally underrated
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You get a like because of the DD for playstation thing made me laugh.
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Automobil Leather = The same Leather that in case of the RS Steering Wheel cause it’s a Porsche Replica like (918 RS Wheel) you become in a Porsche or another German Upper Class Car (BMW,Mercedes,Porsche,Audi). It’s not the Highest Leather Quality (Nappa / .....) but like the Normal or against extra pay (Past Times often)
Thank you for your effort!
So a question can i use a fentac wheel with a wheel base from thrustmaster and Logitech?
No
Great vid
I think they made the csl elite pedals come with a third pedal as well
CSL Elite Pedals come with a Load Cell upgrade that will add that third pedal, but they've been discontinued
suggestion: you can include torque of those wheelbase, which makes the significant difference between each model
One day I want to get a whole rig setup for the F1 games, knew it was gonna be expensive but I'm realizing now that it'll prolly be 2-3k at least. Lol
Just ordered inverted pedals. I'll let you know how good they are!
Please do!
Ok, I get that this is all really high quality and whatnot, but the 400$ drift wheel with basically no functions is kinda insane. What justifies the price point? On the other wheels, you also get leather and high quality stuff, but in addition to tactile buttons, shift and clutch pedals and maybe even a recreation of a real racing wheel from a real car, which has to be developed, designed and licensed. That kinda justifies the price for those wheels, but the drift wheel is basically a leather wrapped donut.
I guess the materials the reside with it? like carbon fiber or other type of materials that make that price? if its just typical metal, yeah its garbage, me personally though, idc if its metal, a wheel is a wheel yk if its solid ill buy it $100 tops or less
“For those of you who don’t use turn signals” lmaooo
CSL DD cost like 700-800 USD where I live. Absurdly expensive. I'm jealous of you guys 😂
Bro im going back to school on Monday and ill be back in December 😃 great vid and i hope to come back seeing the grown channel 🙂
School started this past week for me 🥲 any reason you can’t watch RUclips while in school?
@@OCRacing im a full time boarder 🙂
thanks for including info about price. i want a fanatec wheel
Question how much would be a good price to pay on the used market for a csl elite base and wheel?
great video man
i realy glade i found this video iwas going to buy logitec pro driving
Thanks for the video
Which wheel / base combo would you recommend for someone on a budget?
Can you use a thrust master sf1000 steering wheel with a fanatec wheel base?
Unfortunately not
Thanks for making this video
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THANKS!
"CS Steering Wheel Drift" - $400
MOMO Drifting Steering Wheel - $260
Fanatec must be smoking a fairly serious strain of crack before setting those steering wheel prices.
Thank you. So for ps5, get podium or the get bundle or the f1 bundle???
Great video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
thanks for this review..
The extra $50 for the PS4 CSL Elite is for Sony's hardware compatibility license
the fact that fanatecs wheels are more expensive than actual steering wheels for actual cars
Insane
Great video!
Thanks Hamad, hopefully it was helpful 🙏
Funny how i got recommended this THE SAME DAY i get my CSL DD in the mail
It's because I'm always watching...
Will the clubsport steering wheel RS work with the CSL DD for together? Fanatec takes forever to answer anything!
you think the csl dd will ever be available again on their website?
I'm going to buy their v3 inverted pedals, clubsport steering wheel, shifter + handbrake. So all of these looks like top tier, but also I want to buy CSL DD + boost pack instead of DD1.
So my question is, is it good enough to fit with other products? Because it costs like pedals haha.
When you start judging the product from its price
That "Jesus christ man" got you a laugh, sub, and thumbs up.
This is really great, I've been looking at Fanatecs hardware and have been confused but this helped me out, same with the thrustmaster video, love watching your videos. Also would you say the TMX Pro or G920 are better? I saw in another comment you mentioned T248 but I heard it's releasing almost at the price of a T300
Also good job on 10k
I tend to prefer to G920 as it blends a good deal of performance with quality.
If I use a clubsport RS wheel and clubsport hub on a Podium DD2 will I get the full 25NM torque?
For anyone with a fanatic f1 sim setup, which pedal is recommended if money is not a problem for me
Very good video. Lots of info in a short period of time. If and when I upgrade from my Thrustmaster T300RS set up I may give Fanatec a nod. Hopefully by then they'll make all the wheels compatible with all the DD bases. I just can't see a point in buying the heavy hitter DD's just for 12 more NM's of FFB. I'm just doing this for fun, and I'm guessing I could make my T300 work for me if I really wanted to try and get any further than online racing. But I'm guessing, it's almost as hard to get on to an E Sports Team as it is a real racing team. And even then the baseline to start is IRacing, and that's a commitment in both time and money. If you don't have the time, it ain't worth the money. Especially when you can race plenty of people online in all kinds of different games.
R u looking to sell ur t300rs
Dude, I recommend reaching out to them first to initiate the conversation. Just shoot them a message on a couple social media platforms and see what they have to say🤷
They’ll come eventually. There views are too tempting 😂
Hi, great video! One thing tho, I'm very confused if you can mix match any wheel series with the CSL DD base? Additionally, can you do the same with the pedals, like, have Clubsport v3 pedals with the CSL DD base? Will it all work ok together?
Yes
my cousin has the clubsport pedals v3 inverted
Interesting...
I have 2 choices
Buy an real car
Buy an "midrange" Fanatec Setup
Great video.
What‘s the difference between the last 3 wheel bases? Does it just have more Nm and a better design?
Which one will you recommend for drifting by that I mean the wheel and pedals
I think they'll all be perfectly suitable for drifting (if you're talking about the wheelbases).
@@OCRacing no RUclipsrs reply this fast idk why but you my brother are one of a kind man I’m supporting you no matter what
@@OCRacing btw do you know which wheel or pedals to go for drift sim build