The amount of effort and dedication is astonishing, channels like this deserve support in all way possible as they present content everyone wonder and desire. Thanks for the video RvidD!
someone has tested on this project.but none have reached this amount of details and accuracy.looking foward to you finishing this chart with melee and consumable damages!it will be epic
Your vids are always so informative - you must have a very analytical mind - great job - thanks for keeping the public informed of your findings, and thanks for the many hours you put in doing the testing
I have to login to give you a like. This is one of the best SOD channels I've ever seen. Ridiculous that videos like this get 5 hundred likes only. It should be thousands!
Another great video bro! I'm surprised you didn't test the MGL-N Firewhirl as well. Even though it can't be found in the game, I believe it's the 2nd MOST USED RANGED WEAPON in the game by players according to an UL's livestream LOL
Hi, in the wishlist i made a post "more information" to ask the devs. to give more numbers on things. I hope you agree on that? (Quick example "heals "some" health", i just want a number). Maybe i even want to know how much health a heart has en how much damage a gun does. (Haert 1000health, gun damage 22p shot. So u know u need 1000/22 shots). They have the numbers, why not share them?
I remember someone asking about explosive damage charts on the subreddit. I suggested they use a small caliber like .22 and low damage gun to assign hp to the pH then on the next pH use an explosive on it and finish it with the same .22 and subtract the difference. This should give the damage of each explosives relative to that .22 shots from that gun. From there you can categorize each explosive. Might be a good video idea for you since you like this kind of data acquisition. Also if you really wanted some data you could use that chart to determine how many of each explosive on that difficulty it would take to killa pH. Furthermore you could use the combined data to determine the cost of killing a pH with each explosive type.
That's the exact plan. But I use CLEO SMG to figure out the required number of explosives in Decimal point. For example, 2.2 Bloater gas grenades to destroy an LZ heart (the numbers are not accurate yet. Working in them)
@@StateofDecayScience Sounds good, I'll be eagerly awaiting what you end up doing with this. Should be some nice data. You should catalog all of this data in Google sheets or something.
Holy crap... I had to STOP and REWIND the video to go back and see that .22 rifle... I thought you had an auto .22 rifle! But you click very fast instead. I should have known, RviD! Thanks for the video, super informative!!!
Excellent video and work put in there. I have a question - Doesn't power fluctuate depending on the gun? So one gun in 5.56 might be more or less powerful than another in 5.56? Or is power purely based on calibre and attachments?
Most guns of a same caliber deliver exactly the same power... there are very few exceptions.. Echo guns deliver less power than similar caliber guns .22 handguns deliver less power than .22 rifles. DIY Network rifles deliver more power. Lever action rifles deliver more power.
You say that guns of the same caliber always do the same damage, but this is not true. For example, .22 pistols do less damage than .22 rifles. Also many WW2 9mm (And other bounty guns) do more damage than usual.
Did you knew bloater gas grenades can deal damage to a plaque heart, i dont know exact numbers but it took me about 80 trown fast after eachother to kill a heart with just the gas, might be way less if you let the gas deal damage over time, but i was too lazy to do it slow
You need only about two or three if you combine it with a flare (or firecrackers or any fire) to blow the gas up. A video about that technique was put up just the other day.
@@Robertmaus yes i know, i was just saying that the gas alone can deal damage to a plaque heart aswell, so no fire or anything, just the gas alone, and it was not meant as something to do it faster with, just a little fun fact about the bloater gas grenades :)
@@StateofDecayScience you said ,,so using any gun in a same caliber will give us exact same result". And I'm trying to Understand what that exactly means :p
I wonder when and how the plague hearts make savages appear because I have a quiet game in terror my last plague heart made me appear 6 or 7 ferals I have never seen her in nightmares to such an extent that without destroying the heart I passed my citizen hero
Because M1 carbine delivers slightly more power compared to any other 9mm. Most of the guns in a same caliber deliver exactly the same damage. There will only be few exceptions like M1 carbine. In 5.56mm, the Masterwork AR will deliver more power than other 5.56 rifles.. In 7.62mm, the FAL will deliver more power than other 7.62 rifles.
I feel like there's a major component of this breakdown that's missing: time. All of the plague hearts here were shot from the tops of cars, and that's a solid enough strategy for shooting footage, but not every plague heart can be fired upon from cover. The amount of time it takes you to fire the requisite number of .22 rounds vs 5.56/7.62 ammo makes a big difference in how long the newly spawns zombies have to find you and eviscerate you. If it's enough time for even one wave to get to you, that's a significant risk (especially on Lethal). I feel like the assault rifle options are unfairly devalued here because the video assumes all plague heart assaults are equal and spherical. The 7.62 fires significantly fewer bullets than the handgun calibers, and that means that you spend less time killing the thing that's calling for backup. Once you get one screamer getting off a scream, and all the others in its area of effect are chaining, that's a problem that gets so much worse so quickly. The faster you can kill the plague heart, the faster you can turn around and stop the mess around you from devolving into insanity. Time is hard to measure, but I think it's worth finding a way to include it in the calculation. Edit: Not all strategies scale up in difficulty. For example, it's much more worthwhile to use your car to plow through a horde on Green and Standard zones, but trying that on Nightmare/Lethal is a surefire way to blow up your car very far from safety. Time is not as big of an issue on Green-Nightmare because of the way the dying plague heart kills all plague zombies in the vicinity, but Lethal is a whole new ball game.
That's why I didn't mention which caliber is best.. Just telling not to use 50 cal or 40mm grenades because not only they are inefficient but slower too.. Choosing other calibers are totally player's preference.
You always come up with cool ideas and provide evidence. Sorry to be rude or disrespectful for saying this but, you Indian guys are so awesome when it comes to these stuffs 🙂🙂🙂 Geniuses! 🤘👌👌
@@StateofDecayScience Odd. What would cause the plague heart to take a different amount of rounds if you dont mind me asking? I have this AK that has 76 ammo to the mag and sometimes the heart will be destroyed with the whole clip and other times I need to shoot it about 20 more times after reloading.
i once had a gun that would 5 shot a lethal heart it needed 50 cal bullets and had increased damage due to a gun mod and could 2 shot in dread it was op as fuck
Gonna be honst here. It pisses me off a bit to see how high caliber weapons mean next to nothing in this game. The only advantage you have with other weapons besides the .22 cal.. is the firerate. Otherwise you are better off using the prepper gun all the time. Eh... fuck me... that kind of ruins a lot of fun you could have finding a good weapon, if you ALWAYS know. "Why bother? .22 cal is best anyway for everything besides firerate."
But don't use .22 because all the semi auto .22 cal guns are 3 times more fragile despite having high durability. Go with 9mm SMGs for efficiency and also durability.
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The Explosives Data chart is finally here!!
ruclips.net/video/eS54Gv5aV78/видео.html
And the melee weapons data chart?? Maybe sometime later!!
aye
powerhouse+heavy weapons looks kill plague heart very soon .
The amount of effort and dedication is astonishing, channels like this deserve support in all way possible as they present content everyone wonder and desire. Thanks for the video RvidD!
someone has tested on this project.but none have reached this amount of details and accuracy.looking foward to you finishing this chart with melee and consumable damages!it will be epic
I did a chart for nightmare zone 10 months ago in Reddit.
Wow what a lot of work you've done here
Your vids are always so informative - you must have a very analytical mind - great job - thanks for keeping the public informed of your findings, and thanks for the many hours you put in doing the testing
Thanks dude you didn’t have to do this but you did it anyway; this must have taken long to make so we appreciate your work
I really love how u explain every detail in each video 🤩✨ keep going like this!!!!
I love the fact that you also included the efficiency calc! Thanks again!
I have to login to give you a like. This is one of the best SOD channels I've ever seen.
Ridiculous that videos like this get 5 hundred likes only. It should be thousands!
Then you should check my explosives guide... It is in the pinned comment..
@@StateofDecayScience By the way can you summarize the increment of bullets for the second plague heart and the ones after it?
Another great video bro! I'm surprised you didn't test the MGL-N Firewhirl as well. Even though it can't be found in the game, I believe it's the 2nd MOST USED RANGED WEAPON in the game by players according to an UL's livestream LOL
Hi, in the wishlist i made a post "more information" to ask the devs. to give more numbers on things. I hope you agree on that? (Quick example "heals "some" health", i just want a number). Maybe i even want to know how much health a heart has en how much damage a gun does. (Haert 1000health, gun damage 22p shot. So u know u need 1000/22 shots). They have the numbers, why not share them?
Yeah, they can.
I remember someone asking about explosive damage charts on the subreddit. I suggested they use a small caliber like .22 and low damage gun to assign hp to the pH then on the next pH use an explosive on it and finish it with the same
.22 and subtract the difference. This should give the damage of each explosives relative to that .22 shots from that gun. From there you can categorize each explosive. Might be a good video idea for you since you like this kind of data acquisition.
Also if you really wanted some data you could use that chart to determine how many of each explosive on that difficulty it would take to killa pH. Furthermore you could use the combined data to determine the cost of killing a pH with each explosive type.
That's the exact plan. But I use CLEO SMG to figure out the required number of explosives in Decimal point.
For example, 2.2 Bloater gas grenades to destroy an LZ heart (the numbers are not accurate yet. Working in them)
@@StateofDecayScience Sounds good, I'll be eagerly awaiting what you end up doing with this. Should be some nice data. You should catalog all of this data in Google sheets or something.
Finally some statistics. Not many SoD RUclipsrs making quantitative content like this.
Tnx man, That was helpful.
Information on this game is damn rare.
Amazing work man as always
Useful information, nice video
thanks for your work homie!
Awesome video bro!
Thank you so much for your work its just amazing information 😉
Liked before watching. lol
useful vid as always. Thanks!
Great vid
All the effort for 1 video, especially testing the magnum rounds, you deserve 1mill subs or more.
Holy crap... I had to STOP and REWIND the video to go back and see that .22 rifle... I thought you had an auto .22 rifle! But you click very fast instead. I should have known, RviD! Thanks for the video, super informative!!!
After your comment, I tested the rapid click feature of mouse's software.
The Prepper's .22 went brrrrrr....
Thanks man, I didn't know Echo guns were unique in this aspect. Do they deal more or less damage?
less
Oh man you have worked a lot for this video lovee u man
The explosives data chart video is the best one
Great videos!
TY this must have took a while to make nice job man! Been looking for this, Trying lethal and expected it to take like 3-4x the ammo
Take a look at the Explosives Data video. It is in the pinned comment. IT has much more useful data
Nice work.
Very interesting video and data
very mathematic approach to the game. i like it :)
This type of people are very rare. Thank you.
Excellent video and work put in there. I have a question - Doesn't power fluctuate depending on the gun? So one gun in 5.56 might be more or less powerful than another in 5.56? Or is power purely based on calibre and attachments?
Most guns of a same caliber deliver exactly the same power... there are very few exceptions..
Echo guns deliver less power than similar caliber guns
.22 handguns deliver less power than .22 rifles.
DIY Network rifles deliver more power.
Lever action rifles deliver more power.
What about crossbow numbers lol? 😛It’ll probably take a full inventory of arrows to do it
58 Standard bolts to destroy a LZ heart with Sniper crossbow.
@Swift BMF Firing 58 shots from sniper crissbow will take an eternity.
Also we will need 200+ bolts if we use Repeating Crossbow
How do the gun stats like power and range affect the weapon? I mean if they do not affect damage, what do they do?
Power affects the damage. But I never had a problem with range. All the guns reach till the end except shotguns.
You simply rock with the numbers!
You must check the Explosives calculation! Video is in the pinned comment. It will be really spicy there!
Plz make another video for explosive chart & other flammable grenades (molotov , fuel bomb , nalpam ...) charts .
Excelente!!!
Is there any noticeable difference in destroying plague hearts between using a brake and the CLEO accelerator?
Brakes are better
You do excellent work.
Would crossbows also be in this equation? i have a stockpile of them and i dont know how many i need
currently playing on Lethal Zone. was thinking the same. Would it work if I use a crossbow since it is quiet and I can use it from a distance?
Based on this I need to pull that .357 SMG out of my vault and give it a go.
That SMG will perform similar to .45..
Time to reload. I should reload.
fast forwarding the dialogues would be awkward
You say that guns of the same caliber always do the same damage, but this is not true. For example, .22 pistols do less damage than .22 rifles. Also many WW2 9mm (And other bounty guns) do more damage than usual.
I want to know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a plague heart.
One. Then you are part of it.
Like for You 102 Now , Good video bro And bye 👋
Did you knew bloater gas grenades can deal damage to a plaque heart, i dont know exact numbers but it took me about 80 trown fast after eachother to kill a heart with just the gas, might be way less if you let the gas deal damage over time, but i was too lazy to do it slow
You need only about two or three if you combine it with a flare (or firecrackers or any fire) to blow the gas up. A video about that technique was put up just the other day.
Already got a video about it. Check "Easier ways to destroy the plague hearts in lethal zone"
@@Robertmaus yes i know, i was just saying that the gas alone can deal damage to a plaque heart aswell, so no fire or anything, just the gas alone, and it was not meant as something to do it faster with, just a little fun fact about the bloater gas grenades :)
@@kittykatz496 Ah, well in that case: Nice to know indeed ;)
Wait, so the power statistic of guns is useless in SoD?
Why?? It clearly shows higher calibers requires less rounds
@@StateofDecayScience i mean if you use two different weapons with the same caliber, but their power is different
@@StateofDecayScience you said ,,so using any gun in a same caliber will give us exact same result". And I'm trying to Understand what that exactly means :p
I wonder when and how the plague hearts make savages appear because I have a quiet game in terror my last plague heart made me appear 6 or 7 ferals I have never seen her in nightmares to such an extent that without destroying the heart I passed my citizen hero
Tests MP5A2 : 80 shots, seems right.
Tests M1 Carbine : 77 shots, now wait a minute.
Insignificant but still a difference.
Because M1 carbine delivers slightly more power compared to any other 9mm. Most of the guns in a same caliber deliver exactly the same damage. There will only be few exceptions like M1 carbine.
In 5.56mm, the Masterwork AR will deliver more power than other 5.56 rifles.. In 7.62mm, the FAL will deliver more power than other 7.62 rifles.
hello how did you get so many rounds in 1 magazine
A high capacity gun. Eternal Guard infinite Rage
I feel like there's a major component of this breakdown that's missing: time.
All of the plague hearts here were shot from the tops of cars, and that's a solid enough strategy for shooting footage, but not every plague heart can be fired upon from cover. The amount of time it takes you to fire the requisite number of .22 rounds vs 5.56/7.62 ammo makes a big difference in how long the newly spawns zombies have to find you and eviscerate you. If it's enough time for even one wave to get to you, that's a significant risk (especially on Lethal).
I feel like the assault rifle options are unfairly devalued here because the video assumes all plague heart assaults are equal and spherical. The 7.62 fires significantly fewer bullets than the handgun calibers, and that means that you spend less time killing the thing that's calling for backup. Once you get one screamer getting off a scream, and all the others in its area of effect are chaining, that's a problem that gets so much worse so quickly. The faster you can kill the plague heart, the faster you can turn around and stop the mess around you from devolving into insanity.
Time is hard to measure, but I think it's worth finding a way to include it in the calculation.
Edit: Not all strategies scale up in difficulty. For example, it's much more worthwhile to use your car to plow through a horde on Green and Standard zones, but trying that on Nightmare/Lethal is a surefire way to blow up your car very far from safety. Time is not as big of an issue on Green-Nightmare because of the way the dying plague heart kills all plague zombies in the vicinity, but Lethal is a whole new ball game.
That's why I didn't mention which caliber is best.. Just telling not to use 50 cal or 40mm grenades because not only they are inefficient but slower too..
Choosing other calibers are totally player's preference.
Holy cringe
You always come up with cool ideas and provide evidence. Sorry to be rude or disrespectful for saying this but, you Indian guys are so awesome when it comes to these stuffs 🙂🙂🙂
Geniuses! 🤘👌👌
how do you clim over the car?
Jump near a car while moving forward. If you have SUV, jump near its front wind shield.
@@StateofDecayScience i cant belive its was that easy
Does the plague heart have a moment of invulnerability when it screams?
No!
@@StateofDecayScience Odd. What would cause the plague heart to take a different amount of rounds if you dont mind me asking? I have this AK that has 76 ammo to the mag and sometimes the heart will be destroyed with the whole clip and other times I need to shoot it about 20 more times after reloading.
If you don't miss any shot and always use the same muzzle attachment/no attachment, the requirement will never change
@@StateofDecayScience It might have been lag if thats the case. Thank you dude you're the best.
i once had a gun that would 5 shot a lethal heart it needed 50 cal bullets and had increased damage due to a gun mod and could 2 shot in dread it was op as fuck
I dub thee the Knight of SoD2
OUR TOWN JUST GOT A LITTLE BIT SAFER 💀
damn 13 rounds of the grenade launcher is just insane. Too much. They should buff it.
Easiest method to kill plague hearts 4 me are pipe bombs
And that's only in Standard zone
I wish you were my math teacher
Next video will have a little math!!
@@StateofDecayScience yes
Wow they really nerfed the 50 cal guns
They had slightly higher capacity mag at release. But then immediately reduced. That's the only nerf 50 cal received.
How do you remember them be?
Gonna be honst here.
It pisses me off a bit to see how high caliber weapons mean next to nothing in this game.
The only advantage you have with other weapons besides the .22 cal.. is the firerate.
Otherwise you are better off using the prepper gun all the time.
Eh... fuck me... that kind of ruins a lot of fun you could have finding a good weapon, if you ALWAYS know. "Why bother? .22 cal is best anyway for everything besides firerate."
But don't use .22 because all the semi auto .22 cal guns are 3 times more fragile despite having high durability.
Go with 9mm SMGs for efficiency and also durability.
The game would be better without plague hearts. Everything about them is designed to piss you off.
I would like the developers to increase all this by 5 times
I have a legacy leader with a .50 gun and ammo press. Been blasting through hearts on every difficulty
Just use Spec Ops Vecor SMG to destroy hearts. 50 cal weapons are slow and inefficient against hearts.