Gil's Arena Debates Who Is More Influential - Steph or MJ?
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Gil's Arena Debates Who Is More Influential - Steph Curry or Michael Jordan as they dive into the hot take machine and discuss which all time great has made a bigger impact on the NBA and sports landscape. They also discuss the ESPN Top 100 and why players like Kyrie Irving and Ja Morant should be fueled by the blatant disrespect before examining the new Load Management rules and how they will impact the 2024 NBA Season. Please Like and Subscribe!!
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Chapters
Intro 0:00:00
Show Start 0:03:28
House Is Burning - Pick 2 0:08:29
Jimmy Butler Won't Quit Coffee For A Ring 0:10:45
Something You Wouldnt Give Up For A Ring? 0:16:23
Will Tyrese Maxey Take The Leap? 0:23:08
Can Maxey Keep Embiid in Philly? 0:47:50
Should A Team Trade for Harden? 0:50:38
Debating If Michael Jordan Was A Bad Teammate 1:01:26
ESPN Top 100 List Is Horsesh!t 1:20:12
Ja Morant Slides From #9 to #36 1:39:35
Is Lebron Still A Top 10 NBA Player? 1:46:46
Who is More Influential - MJ or Steph? 1:54:28
MostlyFans 2:18:01 
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" you talk stupid cause, that's how you thinking." 😂 I'm dead
Gil Finally says what we all been thinking and what Myko has been saying 😂😂😂😂
That was so needed😂😂😂 Gil spared him long enough
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Shit had to be said at some point 😂😂
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I love Rashad McCants man 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 He be gettin' on their nerves!
He really do 😂 he really be having some valid point. They just be talking over him 😂
He says stupid shit every time 😂😂😂
@@michaelmaynor6500valid points? Are we listening to the same show? 😂
@@michaelmaynor6500🧢🧢🧢
TBH if mccants not on the show im not watching it 😂
Y’all need to Make An All time NBA draft between Y’all four (Gil, Brandon, Mccants, & Kenyon) & debate WHO Drafted the best Team 🤣💯
Great idea but they would be fighting 5 picks in 😂
how u gon leav out JJ!! sht,he can can n most def,or wht u just got him strictly playin tha h🎙st role like his g'pap Ernie aka EJ🤣😂🤣
Rashad: You seem triggered.
Gilbert: Don't pretend that you talk stupid to trigger me. You talk stupid because thats just how you're thinking.
Flamed him up 🔥 😂😂😂
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Fucking classic lmao!!!!!
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Man... I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!
It's like sitting in a barber shop just kicking shit with players about their craft.
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Common kmart tell them you can put your hands to anyone, tell them karl malone do not want to fight you when you went upside down on karl's head .
@@villabeal3eGil is a shock jock
on crip y’all tripping if y’all think this show doesn’t need Mccants. Without him everybody would just be agreeing with eachother. He makes the conversations more interesting with his crazy takes. Him and gill chemistry/ arguing is needed
I agree 💯
You really said on crip then followed up on some gentle ish lol
Facts
He’s dumb..
@@dolo747just cause it’s on crip doesn’t mean it has to be violent 💯
I rarely agree with mccants but Jordan has never been bigger than Micheal Jackson ... NEVER
Yet Michael Jackson had MJ in his Video. Mike Jack was big musically and Mike Jordan was big in sports they were both evenly big in their respective profession.
You sound stupid just like McCants
Yea MJ was just as big..where you been living? MJ is still one of most famous people in the world
Over the years, Jordan has outgrown MJ. Doing their time, nobody was bigger than M. Jackson.
I think what he was trying to say was MJ was the Michael Jackson of basketball but due to McCants ignorance he said it the other way
Gil said “Don’t think that you’re talking stupid triggers me.. You talk stupid because that’s how you’re thinking”!
Woooooooah! 🔥🔥🎤
I rock with Mccants but Gil cooked his ass there
@@Honcho35 Bruh, you ain’t never lying.
Man seeing gil in his throwback jersey brings back some good memories. I loved the wizards personally because of him and larry
let's be honest. mccants and Kmart together on set is brilliant 💕 you get the calm swagger of mccants and the fire passion of Kmart, along with the brilliance of gil🎉. 'Kmart uknowimsayin count ended at 256'
Maybe Kmart got the swagger, and McCants got the passion?
Idk.. i get your point tho
Was more than 256 😂😂😂
That’s the OPPOSITE sweetie… Kmart is the CALM one and Mccants gets wild and weird….😂😂
how can we be honest about your opinion
I agree the only one I don’t enjoy watching him in every episode is Josiah, he always askin dumb questions to try the others to vouch on his opinion but all of the other cast members I love the chemistry between all of them even mccants his energy is also part of the reason this show is one of the hottest of the moment
Magic and Bird saved the league.
Jordan made the game global.
Steph changed the way the game is fundamentally played.
Wilt changed the rules of the game.
Jordan making the game global is why he will forever be the GOAT...
Look at the last few MVP selection Giannis, Joel and Jokic. The game ain’t changed that much.
13 years before the League changed the sized of the lane because of Wilt, they doubled the size of the lane because of Mikan. Point is, size has always been a major factor in the game. Wemby is about to walk into the League and do things none of us have ever seen. Combining size and athleticism is what makes a professional athlete. Don't forget Steph is 6'3". Amongst us mere mortals, he's the tallest guy in the room.
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Jordan did more than make the game global. Stop saying this stupid point. Jordan revolutionized the sporting world. Do you understand the significance of Jordan’s shoe making 126M in its first years? It is the reason Messi, Ronaldo, and other athletes can almost say “I’m a billionaire.” It’s why sports marketing is so high level now. Jordan is the most influential figure in sports since Pele
Whoever be laughing in da background Is funny AF 😂🤦🏾♂️
"Let the work work"- RaShad McCants, 2023
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He said he think Michael was in there smoking dope with them omgggg I love Mccants Man 😂😂💯
“Just the simp that accepted it” 😂😂 get em Mccants
Only Gilbert would choose to leave the kids🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro McCant’s ways of defining a word is wild. “Give up means to give up.”😭😭😭
One of the best episodes I seen. It’s experts talking about their craft
You seem triggered 😂😂
“Get off the ball Michael!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 McCants is HILARIOUS
“Swing it” 😂😂😂
There was an interview where Jordan stated that he hogged the ball because his team was too willing to give up by halftime any time that they were losing. Loughery gave Mike the green light
McCants was getting flamed so bad he resorted to saying MJ was smoking dope because he had no come back.
Plus MJ’s influence on the team is what pushed them to win not the other way around
You feel me *Pause*... That whole team and City took on his Personality... And when scotty couldn't get it done by himself who did he run to?
@@curtaviuskenner2842mj never did it himself either
@@olblue3478 thats a fact. You cant just take a Superstar out of a team and say get it done and get upset when they dont. If you take Scotty out Mike doesnt win either. Also, when Scotty didnt get it done, they were 1 bad call away from the NBA finals. Of course if you add the best player in the world to that team they will get it done next time.
Lol that shit hurt yo lil feelings didn't It ? 😂😂
I know for a fact mj was smoking and drinking. Tf yall talking bout trying make it seem like smoking is bad. Kmart should opened his mouth and said hold on gil smoking doesn't make you a bad teammate cuz he did it. So Stephen Jackson was a bad teammate then too. If anything why isn't Gil saying HE was a bad teammate lol
MJ is the most influential NBA player ever. He is arguably one of the most influential sports figure ever. There is a reason why in popular culture you still hear people say: He is the Michael Jordan of XXXXX. There's no comparison.
Facts!!!! 💯
YUP
He’s the Micheal jackson of xxxxx * I think u mean ..
@@josheasy6716nobody fucking said that, ever.
Lol you Niggas gas cost the price of cigarettes
Aye Kenyon Kilt Me When He Called The ESPN Workers FatFucks 😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
& Josiah’s laugh is legendary 😂🤦🏾♂️
His laugh make u laugh. Lol
As me a kid growing up in Chicago in the 90s to this day I still praise every players on those bulls teams. From Jordan to S.King to Luc to Randy Brown.
facts even jp and bj
Right. These new ppl made it about Jordan. We were Bulls Fans. Everyone had a role.
@@WeKnowTheDifference exactly
you know differnce kind embarassing impact of MJ to steph
They side conversations off the subjects they be talking about be the best part of the show.
Kenyon do not want harden to play with kenyon jr or get him traded for harden 😂
What's wild is Harden gets athletic 4's & 5's paid via PnR...SMH
He said u don’t think Michael jordan was in there smoking dope with them 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Y’all TWEAKING thinking Jordan was more famous than Michael Jackson at ANY POINT
On god😂
My dude in the 90s it was pretty damn close bruh cut the cap
I swear.
He was just as famous 😂
@@lucianodadon7822he act like it was far apart 😂 in the 80’s it was far fetched but in the 90’s it damn sure was close
Josiah: let's keep this thing rollin...
Kmart: WHY? 🤣
Wait a minute......Rashad was labeled as a bad teammate and that's why he couldn't find a team that wanted him.
Yea that and they said he was putting more into his relationship with the kardashian instead of committing to the team.
Bro shit up you was a bad employee and no job wanted you stop hating on that man he still got paid
They probably thought Mike was a bad teammate because he expected greatness and they was trying to just collect a check
Right!!!! 💯
That’s exactly what Gil was tryna explain it did have the right words
Lol you must ain’t watch the doc. He admits he was a bad teammate dumbass
lol expected greatness when later on?? Until he started winning with Pippen 😂😂
Gil speaks out from a perspective of being a premier great scorer. A confident successful scorer. He was great 💯
“Are You Throwing Shade Again ?”🤣🤣🤣
We need more lifestyle convos. The impromptu car convo hilarious 😂
Have u ever heard kenyon story about how he bout a phantom lol hilarious and real
@@certifiedchaos4643where did he tell that story lmao, any link
@@MoeSkittles247 knuckleheads podcast 🤣🤣🤣
BJ Armstrong been catching hella strays 😭😭
Availability is the one aspect that these guys have overlooked. You have to be on the court to be effective.
They took issue with the rankings of
Durant
Kyrie
Ja
Zion
All guys that are injury prone or suspended to start the year
True, but they always thinking talent 🤷🏾♂️
AD ??
@@torch2nine They can never understand that sometimes players are not just evaluated on talent or what they have accomplished. The list was a projection of what ESPN thinks the players are going to land next season. They have zero reading comprehension skills. They just see ESPN and already disagree before they even realize what exactly ESPN is talking about.
Imma need Gil to do da 1 hand dribble every episode from now on.😂Im weeeaaakkk
Deadass 😂
Bravo Gil's Arena❗️....Keep it Coming❗️
HUGE FAN of the show and the former players on the show! Everyone is different… gives so many perspectives. I usually side with Gil/Kmart. I like the emotional investment by each person on this panel. That being said I’m looking forward to potential guests/former players… Shaq, KG, Shumpert, guys that are passionate as you guys are… KD, JJ Reddick, etc. Just my opinion… this show should have like 2.7million subs 😅. Doesn’t matter about the numbers but I’m just saying a lot of ppl should be watching.
Nah. They are all the sane though. All about the new generation
I’m
100% with Gil on the MJ bad teammate part. He's on fire with everything. Unfortunately the other hosts - and surprisingly K-mart, who played when MJ was playing - weren't able to comprehend the truth.
But KMart agreed with Gil, so Is confused with your statement
KMart agreed with him
MJ damn near put his arm in the rim when he dunked on Patrick ewing....go back and look at him hit his mid forearm on the rim first.
The thing is, you can't say MJ was a bad teammate and use passing as one of the metrics when Michael would pass to Steve Kerr and others in crucial moments.
Lmao yes the hell you can! One pass doesn’t erase him not making an abundance of them! That’s one moment in a 13 year career. Obviously he’s made one more but thinking he can’t be a bad teammate because he made the Obvious right play once doesn’t equate to him being a great teammate
There is a game against Larry Bird on RUclips, Bulls was down 1 or 2 points and Jordan took 2 or 3 contested 3 when someone near was completely open. That's just bad game decisions and they lost that game against Bird in his final year.
@@gregharper6382 you can say that but unless you've seen him play his entire career (which I haven't) then I am not sure how you can say that. As far as I'm concerned a bad teammate would never do that.
They said the same about Kobe, but I saw him pass plenty.
LeBron has passed up game winning shots (some where he was the best option) in the playoffs and regular season and lost games, it has been said he can be very passive aggressive and manipulative with his teammates. Do you consider him a bad teammate?
@@pavlosegeda8294 people make bad decisions. LeBron has passed balls on game winning plays and lost games. I'm sure both he and MJ had their reasons and I am not sure I could argue with them. Nor do I agree that simply being open makes you a better option.
@@gregharper6382you do realize that the coach before jackson out Jordan at point and he is the only player to have 10 straight triple doubles right? His passing was off the chart. He was on ball. Research instead of speaking out of your ass
Kenyon going in today. Best show yet.
Yoiu guys should do a documentary on the panel creating the TOP 100 list.
DUde, this would be ! view show or film streaming.
Seeing Kenyon arguing with Stacks, and Gil laughing with Crowned McCants in the background lmao
Aye K ! 😂 they ain’t catch yo “ Life “ movie reference 🤣🤣🤣😭
We can't compare MJ and Steph. With MJ we can look at 30 years of cultural and basketball influence. With Steph we are assuming that next year will be a continuation of his influence, but we doing know. It's the "bird in the hand worth two in the bush" saying. A quantifiable known vs an immeasurable unknown.
well said
Ppl make it seem like Steph reinvented the game but it’s overblown. Look at the last few MVP selections and who is dominating the game. It’s not players like Steph or Trae Young or even Dame. Mid range is still prevalent and big are showing us that they can still dominate the game more than small shooters.
@@2cents250Joel and Jokic are big men who are given the green light to pull from 3 and will do it often even though they’re dominant post players
@@2cents250lmfao buddy thats not how it works. Look at all of their three point attempts. Look at THEIR TEAMS three point attempts. Look at every teams style of play. I respectfully hate mfks like you who do this. Basketball is a TEAM SPORT. MVPS prove nothing when the topic is about the literal sport and it’s interconnectivity.💀💀💀💀
They all got Jordan's at home. How many of then wear the under amour
How they got Luka in front of Steph that’s baseball cap 😂
40:27 Kenyan face got me crying when McCants said “leave them alone” 😂😂😂😂
the background laughing makes it so much better 😭
McCants has improved a lot.
Bill Rissell averaged 18 but he also only shot like 42-44% from the field
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1:17:06 “who drinking glizzy water?”😂😂😂💀
Intro music is fire on this Friday workday
MJ was dunking at 5'8". He then grew to 6'6". If you are 5'8" and dunking your vertical is AT LEAST 44". So if you grow to 6'6", your muscles get stronger as well. So it is not inconceivable to say MJ's vertical was 48".
Lmao dunking at 5”8 doesn’t mean your vert is 44
@@prestonstrong7040I swear folks say anything 🤦🏾😂
that does not mean ur vert is 44
Lmao delusional
Lmao. Dudes just make up anything that sounds logical to them
McCants be right most the time lol Gil ass just be hollering 😂😂😂
Huuuuuuh mccants ass barely right
Facts. Gil crazy frfr
@@ghjk75 😂😂😂😂 I swear to god. He funny as hell
Basically lol
When bro said so you never enjoy a cup of coffee I felt exactly what he means 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😭😭😭
Love when this crew together man we need everybody on at once
Yo k mart face when mccants said “ young Oprah “ 😭😂😂😂😂
Kobe gave us a little insight saying they debated 91 v 03. 98 v 09 would be crazy one too.
09 Kobe was fuckin deadly. Probably one of Kobe's best years in terms of jump shooting and could still drive to the hole and slam it down. Not to mention probably his most clutch year too
@@aiyachristian imagine him vs an MJ with the IQ level of two 3Peats😮💨. Shhhh den got SURious😂😂
1:12:29 Gil & Mccants went at it the whole time 😂😂😂😂 RM be trolling and Gil be getting mad ash at his takes
36:57 🤣 his big toe 😂 I can see AD missing cause he sprained his pinky toe 😂
McCants contradicts himself every time😂😂😂. Love the show all these guys are dope.
I’m rocking with Rashad here. You can be a tyrant as a teammate and talented as a champion at the same time. Jordan was both. Kobe was too. Phil Jackson kept both of them in check and accountable to the team, whether it was the Bulls or the Lakers.
What has he ever won to know what it takes to win in the league
Rashad is hating. Stop it
Nah, no one was hating. Not Rashad. Not Gil. Not Kenyon. They all just got strong opinions and viewpoints. They even said they'd fight each other if they had to make a list ranking the top 100 themselves. That ain't hate.
Hate is taking a gun out and killing people on the spot for disagreeing with you. No one in that room is doing that. That's actual hate, and that's the difference. Now stop.
After torching Gils Walker Texas Ranger jeans from two days ago and then yesterdays prison release fit and commissary shoes. Gil fit came all the way correct today with the throwback jersey of himself 🔥🔥
Can tell y'all watched film on y'all selves bc the improvements are visible all around!! Keep itt #teamgilarenas
“Aye Bring Dat Gatorade!” Is Insane LMFAOOOO
Hoverboard had Kenyon vexed
McCants be deflecting his ass off when he get proven wrong 😂😂
1:12:10 McCants had me rolling at this part😂😂😂. For some reason he sounded like my grandpa
This pod is legit one of the best. The passion is unmatched
Fun Facts
Gilbert Arenas career
20.7
5.3 assist
3.9 rebounds in 11 seasons
3 all star games
1 most improved player
3 all nba
a fucking BUCKET
@rickyquattlebaumjr3535 yeah he had game. Just not one of the top scorers by avg over a 10yr span. But he got buckets
@jalenpastel I forgot that. So he had a good career not great. So where do you rank him out of all time guards
"I think Jordan was back there wit em" 💀💀💀
Had me rollin' when he said that🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
K-Mart @1:31:25 mark "We don't expect you to fuxking to." 🤣😂
intro is dope. great content
This show is so awesome
Mike is the most popular NBA basketball player thus far period, however, influence changes from era to era predicated on how the league markets the game through media, advertisements, sponsorships, etc. to promote it's popularity, so there may be more people whom should be added to this debate from era to era instead of head to head or one on one in order to make it more comparitable and competitive in the spirit of debate
OG every 10 seconds “Knowemsayyin” 😂
that laptop tray got you locked in Jo 🤣
Please keep Kenyon & Rashad together! Love the combo! Must see TV!
I think Rashad is must see TV with anybody across from him. He makes the show exciting as hell!
“Don’t pretend like you talk stupid to trigger me. You talk stupid because you stupid” - Gil
Is it obvious?
46:06 “move around boy” is crazyyyy for bill in the 60s😂😂😂
Another Banger 🔥🔥
Gilbert really don’t care about winning 😂
Yes he does. He's just not delusional.
You hit it right on the head. It's like talking about Tom Brady based on his 40 time and how much he could bench press. Completely overlook WINNING and being clutch. Gil's greatest scorers are all just bigger and longer versions of MJ who were all less clutch. It's so crazy, KD and LeBron don't post up because that shit look too much like MJ (KD pulled out his MJ shit in game 3 of the 2018 Finals after LeBron did it in game 2 of that same playoffs against Toronto).
He does but for him winning is money over status that a ring brings. In the end, basketball is just a game, it's a sport winning a ring in something like that isn't really worth that much.
I think mccants just takes outrageous takes to get the others riled up. Cause that Michael Jordan a bad teammate debate was a stupid fucking point he stood on. Especially of what his history says about how he feels about Kobe and Jordan and being a leader
I'll say this, K-Mart inspired me to go to the gym 🤣😂😂 I need that "Fat Mf" as a sound bite lmao
Hey betta not wife the work! 😂😂
U have to remember what Pippen was and what he looked like when he got to the bulls! Lol 😂 I wouldn’t have passed him the ball either. Jordan made Pippen!!! Scottie had someone to emulate and be like
Ain’t no debate without Mccants, lowkey the star of the show.
1:11:52 “I think Mike went in there and smoke some dope.”😂
Numsayin count been hilarious lmao
Michael Jackson was the most famous person ever. Gil and Kenyon are tripping. Basketball wasn't even worldwide like music was. Jackson was famous everywhere. Jordan was famous in countries that actually watched basketball.
Wouldn’t that mean something tho beings tho majority of European countries and even other countries have soccer as the number 1 sport over in their area?
Jordan is a cultural icon. Not just for basketball, but because of the popularity of his shoes.
People in countries that are not basketball fans, even were aware of Michael Jordan, and who he was.
People who don’t listen any other black people’s music listen to Michael Jackson…. See I can make the same dumb ass point 😂😂
@@mj234evaMichael Jackson was known around the world with Jackson 5 and then solo. Jordan became known to the world in the 90s.
Rashad is a goat at what he does on this show, man’s is always on point/ always passionate , deserves to wear the crown
He’s honestly the only one using logic, Gil & KMart being biased lol
@@YounGod95your right bro, I love Gilbert’s opinions the most tho for some reason, I feel like his knowledge is BEYOND the average basketball player, BUT what rashad brings to the table is the FIRE and energy the show needs, without Rashad it might be stale when it comes to the back and forth arguments, BUT even with that, they cracked some funny ass jokes RIGHT after yelling at the top of they lounges lol , real solid gentlemen on the show man/ I been watching Gil’s arena over ALL of espns tv shows, they just more authentic with it.
Lmfao that blur @38:22 made me go cross eyed wtf
Mcants shirt has me dying. $ 4 P... This dude is wild for real.
What’s it mean?
Jordan was never bigger than Jackson they made statues of Jackson people passed out when they saw him there’s levels gil defending his child hood hero as he should but definitely trippin on that one
The mj vs mj debate was wild mccants be on point 💯💯
Great episode
Some one should do a clip of the faces of everyone when mccants is talking 😂😂😂
How Gil say Pippen opinion don’t matter cuz Scottie wasn’t there when Jordan wasn’t winning .. but Gil can speak on all Jordan teammates & what they was doing lol
Scottie also said he was better than Jordan lol Scottie didn’t start saying these things until after the last dance stop playing man
Bruh Jordan son is banging Scottie ex wife lmao enough said
@@caprice3509 It’s nothing wrong with him feeling tht way .. he was an X factor in all them ships , All NBA , All Star, All Defensive .. now if he say he’s a better scorer , that’s delusional.
@@hberryma MVP, scoring title, dpoy? Which one Scottie got?
Pippen was a equipment manager for the basketball team as a freshman in college. His team didn't go to the NCAA tournament until after he left. Kenny Smith beat him out for 1st team all rookie.