World of Warships - Don't Cry For Me San Martina

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @spinnirack3645
    @spinnirack3645 Год назад +137

    I would say morning but as my sleep schedule was thoroughly murdered I'm having lunch right now

    • @noserman1226
      @noserman1226 Год назад +5

      Same. I work overnights 😅

    • @Kellen6795
      @Kellen6795 Год назад +4

      Ayy fellow night people!! Just finished lunch too

    • @paulvamos7319
      @paulvamos7319 Год назад +1

      Good day night shift, time to clean the sub-basement! 😂 😱😭

    • @seaninness334
      @seaninness334 Год назад

      My sleep is screwed too, Thankfully we have fresh Jingles videos.

  • @russward2612
    @russward2612 Год назад +152

    I've been binge watching your Warhammer 40k chaos gate daemon hunter series the past few days. It's amazing how much the world has changed since then.
    It really struck me when I listened to you talk about the loss of QE2 and the ascension of KC3. That was just the beginning. Some losses were more personal than others.
    My 59th birthday happened last Saturday. The older I get, the longer the days last but the faster the years pass. We both had some significant losses in the past year.
    Cherish the moments you get to spend with your loved ones, you don't know how many you will get or when it will all come to an end. There are no guarantees in life.
    🐈🐈‍⬛👑✌️🖖

    • @hamishneilson7140
      @hamishneilson7140 Год назад +2

      Happy birthday friend, hope this year’s a good one for you!

  • @Diurach
    @Diurach Год назад +7

    Jingles thank you for featuring this match! it was a little more stressful than I bargained for and its nice to watch it back with a calm view and commentary!

  • @jerrydickerson1111
    @jerrydickerson1111 Год назад +50

    yay nothing like a World of Warships video from my faviort content creator on my 30th Birthday, been watching since High School thanks for all the years of entertainment Jingles.

  • @sirtogii5216
    @sirtogii5216 Год назад +4

    Djurach is a great streamer. Thanks for reminding me that I need to resub

  • @Melrrian
    @Melrrian Год назад +1

    10:20 Jingles, it's not the Montana's fault. The Goliath simply activated his, "Somebody else's problem" consumable.

  • @winner3or_loser910
    @winner3or_loser910 Год назад +183

    I think, over a very short amount of time, the community seems to have moved on from mentioning Eddie in comments and posts. And I know it will be forever before you, Jingles or anyone else close to him will forget. Though on behalf of the community, I think i will say it one last time from us…
    I’m so sorry for your loss Jingles, and we all miss Eddie as he was such a loving and kind person. I do wish you well and god bless Eddie’s soul. May we never forget such a kind addition to this world ❤

    • @Pincer88
      @Pincer88 Год назад +17

      Strangely I got the same sentiment. It's like everything is 'back to normal' and 'don't mention Eddie.' But I'm quite certain that isn't what's genuinely going on. It's just that as awkward and strange as it may sound, his passing has been very painful, even to us, the loosely coupled members of this community, to whom Jingles and his friends somehow seem so familiar and intimate I think, that we actually have become emotionally involved. It's the authenticity that sets this channel apart from the more plastic ones, that makes our sympathy real. And somehow - in my perception at least - it feels Eddie didn't get a proper send off. It feels like unfinished and unsatisfactory somehow.
      Having said all that, life has a nasty tendency to continue on and leave little room and time to mourn properly, so we try our best and move on, be it with this stone upon our hearts. It will always feel like unfinished business, regardless what ritual or symbolic gestures we make. He went too soon and way too fast to do or say something that felt helpful. It's that feeling of being powerless to convey our sincere involvement in a way that felt like it mattered, I guess.
      Either way, I think we should allow Jingles to mourn in his own way, his own time and in the company of whomever he chooses. Eddie was HIS best friend, not ours, regardless how we authentically feel. RUclips is a strange space in that respect. It's as if we become part of the life of a RUclipsr, when in fact we aren't and can't be.
      And though I do not intend to put words in Jingles's mouth, I think he has the integrity not to make a single buck out of posting a video about Eddie's passing or how he genuinely feels; that would make him drop to the levels of the Kardashians, if you catch my drift. Pretty soon it would feel like self gratifying exhibitionism that's in stark contrast to the remembrance Eddie is deserving of.
      Sorry to weigh in and make assumptions that may prove to be completely false, but this is from the heart and the little Asperger in me told me to post it, since it had been nagging me from some time now too.
      Cheers to you all.

    • @draigaur9543
      @draigaur9543 Год назад +15

      Sometimes not saying anything after someone has past is our way of dealing with it,it’s not that they are forgotten but the hurt is a little bit raw just yet.❤

    • @ChIGuY-town22_
      @ChIGuY-town22_ Год назад +7

      As a fellow salt miner, I am proud of the community members. We all loved and missed Eddie. He will not be forgotten.

    • @russward2612
      @russward2612 Год назад +12

      @@Pincer88 what you said is valid, Eddie is not forgotten but the business of living doesn't stop for the living until they join the departed.
      Let the emotional scabs heal over, don't keep picking at them.
      I lost 5 family members since the beginning of the pandemic, 2 to cancer. If I only thought of them, my abysmal depression would be crippling. So I concentrate on the needs of the living.

    • @Pincer88
      @Pincer88 Год назад

      @@russward2612 Wise words and they ring all the more true, since having worked in an elderly care home (now home, very sick with post-covid) I've seen many slip away to whom I grew more than just a superficial liking. Not very professional, but I always maintained that I'm more than my job title or a robot.
      I very much sympathize with your loss, I really do. The closer people are to you, the heavier the burden of grief. I wish you every ray of light that may help you lift that stone off your heart.
      And you are very right in pointing out how focusing on the living helps maintaining meaning and a certain level of energy. The departed meanwhile will linger on as fond memories, with their struggles fading away ever so slowly into oblivion. It's all we all can do until it's our time.
      Kind regards, Peter

  • @tomigodoy9853
    @tomigodoy9853 Год назад +3

    my contry my country 🇦🇷 🇦🇷 !! Its nice to see the world still remembers us as we are facing economic extinction.
    also the title is on point jingles well done 👍
    the ship is pronounced San Marteen in english, our vowels sound different.

  • @bluesynth7958
    @bluesynth7958 Год назад +17

    The Spanish cruisers are really interesting; their combat instructions reward aggression (unlike most other combat instructions which reward patience). Combined with a very good heal, a 10 second DCP, burst fire, and both hydro and radar, the ships are absolutely deadly to destroyers and cruisers. Most of the content WG has been coming out with imo has fallen on either side of the fence of either having very little influence on matches or having too much influence. It's about time that WG return to creating ships like the San Martin line; highly influential and rewarding to experienced players, yet it has very clear weaknesses and can either be countered or managed if you take the time to understand them.

  • @AllAhabNoMoby
    @AllAhabNoMoby Год назад +21

    San Martin's heal is actually better than Mino's or Goliath's. It heals back 80% of citadel damage. If you manage it well and if you succeed in keeping you combat instructions off cooldown (which Diurach had trouble doing in this game), you are insanely durable.

  • @donutking7
    @donutking7 Год назад +3

    Split is the name of my hometown, and the Yugoslavian DD Split, is perhaps the only destroyer that shelled the city it was named after. Fun times.

  • @signolias100
    @signolias100 Год назад +1

    just a heads up jingles there was a USS Worchester that is the American tier 10 light cruiser. the hull number was CL-144

  • @boydy7351
    @boydy7351 Год назад +8

    San Martin is my new favourite ship, I love Light Cruisers, and this one is amazing. Rewards ballsy play, still very vulnerable, just a well done ship IMO.

  • @silentmoniker
    @silentmoniker Год назад +4

    Top of the morning Jingles..Thank you as always for the entertainment 😎

  • @syedushherahmad311
    @syedushherahmad311 Год назад +23

    Couple of things here:
    1st: The montana made the right call. That conqueror was on 32k health and montana slapped the ever living shit out of him. It was the right choice because conqueror guns overmatch des moines and nevsky, which were the only cruisers left, and the super heal would have doomed them all.
    2nd: des moines, yes, had a sudden brain fart moment. if he had angled towards the island diurach was hiding behind, he could have easily bounced amagi and not die. He threw hard
    3rd: the gearing made a mistake. He could have gone bow in, and torped him just 2 km away. We already saw that San Martin AP shells bounced off when he was angled. He played well, but that was a moment that could have been executed way better

    • @CesarinPillinGaming
      @CesarinPillinGaming Год назад

      Overmatch? you mean HE british splattering?XD

    • @syedushherahmad311
      @syedushherahmad311 Год назад

      @@CesarinPillinGaming conquerer gund overmatch 30mm of armor, using AP

    • @CesarinPillinGaming
      @CesarinPillinGaming Год назад

      @@syedushherahmad311Do they? I always assumed they didn't, and the only who overmatched A Salem or Desmoines was Thunderer's 457 guns.
      Conqueror has 419's

    • @CesarinPillinGaming
      @CesarinPillinGaming Год назад

      @@syedushherahmad311Just saw the official stats of world of warships, you need above 430mm to overmatch 30mm.
      That means republique onwards. Conqueror has lower pen and shorter fuse.

    • @syedushherahmad311
      @syedushherahmad311 Год назад

      @@CesarinPillinGaming i meant overmatch their nose

  • @Qwerty-jl2yw
    @Qwerty-jl2yw Год назад +5

    Jingles, it made sense for the Montana to stop shooting at the Goliath; he had the broadside of a Conq to shoot at and deleted a nearly 50% hp battleship. The Nevsky got the Goliath later anyways

  • @Kenoscope
    @Kenoscope Год назад +3

    Don't cry for me Argentina. Wonderful song.

  • @slateslavens
    @slateslavens Год назад

    10:40 The Goliath engaged his "Someone Else's Problem" field...

  • @usssimshullnumberdd-4095
    @usssimshullnumberdd-4095 Год назад +2

    To be fair to the Montana, he was going to be caught in a cross fire between the Goliath and the Conquerer, so he decided to take out the threat on his broadside first. And he did, we can see he got the Conquerer with his first shot

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 Год назад +76

    Spanish pronunciation isn't all that hard, even if you don't know any of the language itself. Just remember the vowel sounds ("ah", "eh", "eee", "oh", "ooo" for a, e, i, o, and u, respectively), and look for the accents written in the words to tell you which syllables to emphasize.
    So, San Martín is pronounced "SAHN marTEEN".
    Or just ask Drachinifel. :)

  • @Zeknif1
    @Zeknif1 Год назад +2

    Coward! He has no guramba! It is not choosing violence… it is Choosing GLORY!!!
    (And that is why I have a sub-50% winrate)

  • @lindaorr1805
    @lindaorr1805 Год назад +2

    Sweet another great start for the day 👏😎

  • @Stuie_02
    @Stuie_02 Год назад

    Absolute GOLD jingles on the title.

  • @Maringana
    @Maringana Год назад

    Making it look easy as well as plot armor are true Diurach specials. :D

  • @piperpa4272
    @piperpa4272 Год назад +1

    If I had survived, Diurach wouldnt have had a solo warrior :p But I was too focused on the Split to realise there were Gearing torps on the way.

  • @SebaX92
    @SebaX92 Год назад +1

    Worcester was built though and yes, they wanted a light cruiser back then. The U.S. though didn’t want them to have a good new ship, they instead sold the Brooklyn class light cruisers, one of them is in the game as Nueve De Julio.

  • @jamesscalzo3033
    @jamesscalzo3033 Год назад

    Loved the video @The Mighty Jingles! Can't wait for the next video man! Imagine seeing a San Martín Steaming Towards you with a Bayard (Teir 8 French Premium Cruiser), and Either a Gearing or a Forest Sherman and Either the Alaska or Puerto Rico! Would you go for your Red Shirt or your Brown Pants LMAO?

  • @mhoop1
    @mhoop1 Год назад +1

    now i'm gonna have Evita in my head all day.

  • @brennanodea1878
    @brennanodea1878 Год назад

    When Jingles was explaining the existence of San Martin, I could only think the part of jay and silent bob strike back when Ben Affleck was explaining fictional characters. 😂😂😂

  • @Lycanthus78
    @Lycanthus78 Год назад

    lol @ the clip title, nice one Jingles :D

  • @bansh3ee
    @bansh3ee Год назад +1

    Fortunately, Jingles goes into Spanish mode when a certain Italian ship is being played (Julio Cesare)

  • @businesscasualsauron
    @businesscasualsauron Год назад +2

    In fairness to the Montana, he did actually sink the Conqueror.

  • @charlestownshotokan5704
    @charlestownshotokan5704 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing that one.

  • @p_nilly
    @p_nilly Год назад +1

    That Montana decided to smash a broadside Conqueror instead of finishing off the Goliath... (and it worked too)

  • @rantanplan178
    @rantanplan178 Год назад

    5:25 That's not true Jingles. Even at 60m hydro detects submarines, only within assured detection range however (2km)

  • @Vinemaple
    @Vinemaple 11 месяцев назад

    For anyone interested, the two spiciest players whining about subs in the beginning of the match were the enemy Split and the enemy Druid. By contrast, the enemy Mainz was quite up-front about [his] failures, and the enemy Nevsky and Gearing, the most effective players on the enemy team, didn't bother to join in.

  • @lamwen03
    @lamwen03 Год назад +4

    San MarTEEN

  • @Pyroglyphid
    @Pyroglyphid Год назад

    Mooooooorning Jingly boy 💪

  • @saxonchungus
    @saxonchungus Год назад

    San Marteen, Jingles

  • @History_Buff
    @History_Buff Год назад

    *clears throat* Um actually Jingles, the USS Worcester was constructed. (You said based upon the designs of a ship that was never constructed). She was laid down in Jan of '45. She was eventually scrapped and a lot of her armor was actually send to Fermilab to be used as shielding on their particle accelerator. So technically I've seen her ;) .

  • @a4dd221
    @a4dd221 Год назад

    Dear Evil Gnome Overlord, I sincerely hope that is a Julie Covington reference only

  • @beamsy9740
    @beamsy9740 Год назад

    Uhhh Jingles actually there were two Worcester class light cruises launched USS Worcester (CL-144) and USS Roanoke (CL-145). So it a fictional cruiser based on a real cruiser :P

  • @usmlestepexamreview
    @usmlestepexamreview Год назад

    All I heard was "A COMPLETE WORK OF FICTION" 😂

  • @andrewwestberry1841
    @andrewwestberry1841 Год назад

    Jingles, since you were so worried about how to pronounce "San Martin" here are a few tips. Roll the r if you can, say the t by putting your tongue between your teeth almost as if you're biting it (it should sound somewhere between a t and a d), and say the i like a double ee. All together it should sound like San Marrteen.

  • @davidlabedz2046
    @davidlabedz2046 Год назад +1

    A well played game!

  • @BinkyTheElf1
    @BinkyTheElf1 Год назад

    Diurach is probably not named for a Klingon admiral (Durak), but from some Scottish Gaelic. Maybe DYOOR-ach (where the “ch” is said like the “ch” in Bach or och?

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 Год назад +1

    Pretty amazing game! Nice!

  • @DD-mp1kl
    @DD-mp1kl Год назад

    uhhh, Jingles? The US did build 2 Worcester class cruisers. USS Worcester and USS Roanoke. Would it really be so far fetched to just take the Worcester class, adjust the turret arrangement, add some torpedos and swap around the AA guns?

  • @kingscrub3386
    @kingscrub3386 Год назад

    Has anyone got any info on if Jingles is doing a Baldur's Gate playthrough? He may have answered this question in a previous video that I haven't watched yet.

  • @curiousentertainment3008
    @curiousentertainment3008 Год назад

    8:09 Actually Jingles, USS Worcester CL-144 very much did exist. Saying the Martín is based of a nonexistent ship is incorrect. Also you made a video about that very ship.

  • @jmc7034
    @jmc7034 Год назад +1

    Great game

  • @gene7887
    @gene7887 Год назад

    "The truth is that I never left Yue(yang)"

  • @NicoleSatchell-k8b
    @NicoleSatchell-k8b Год назад

    A well played game!. Pretty amazing game! Nice!.

  • @old_guard2431
    @old_guard2431 Год назад

    The difficulties with making the light cruiser AP produce actual damage (note ricochets on the Gearing) plus the long cool-down on the heal (without F-key funny button assist) do provide some challenges for this line.
    Comparing Base XP of winners to losers I think it is useful to factor in the winning team’s 50% XP boost. If you added that 50% to the Gearing player’s score he would have come in second overall, fairly respectable considering the performance of Our Hero.

  • @janwitkowsky8787
    @janwitkowsky8787 Год назад

    Has Jingle played "Panzer Knights"?
    I think he'll like it.

  • @djc5015
    @djc5015 Год назад

    Why does Jingles always take the side of the guy who sent in the replay when he obviously cut off that DD at the beginning?

  • @pete2dc
    @pete2dc Год назад

    it's the "niceness" in chat that gets me...if only EU if only...

  • @metalgoby6390
    @metalgoby6390 Год назад

    Thr Worcester class did exist, though, Jingles. So the design isn't based on a US design that never existed. The Worcester class consisted of two ships

  • @shawnseymour621
    @shawnseymour621 Год назад

    i have a couple of the other lower tier pan am cruisers they are fun.

  • @shadowfox8748
    @shadowfox8748 Год назад

    Jingles must watch flamu dev logs … the war gaming fan fiction that is wows is amazing

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV Год назад

      The saddest part is that Wargaming didn't even *need* to make up a fictional design. Vickers actually designed a light cruiser meant for sale to Argentina that was basically an improved Neptune. With the Friesland/Halland guns as its secondary battery. They also designed what were basically shrunk-down 3-turret versions of Neptune and Minotaur for Venezuela. None of these were ever built, but paper ships are better than outright fake ships. Plus, given how British-flavored the Pan-America cruisers are (being AP only and having superheal), it would've been thematically appropriate to use British designs for the top tiers.

    • @shadowfox8748
      @shadowfox8748 Год назад

      @@RedXlV it is sad. I remember watching the dev blog from flamu when he pulled up how war gaming was basically gifted the tech tree. Real ships and everything. They went for this dumpster fire of a line instead

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV Год назад

      @@shadowfox8748I was a (minor) participant in the forum threads where we were discussing what could go in a Pan-America CL line. Or at least, the English-language threads on the subject. I hopped over to the Spanish-language threads but had to use Google Translate since I've forgotten most of the Spanish I learned decades ago.

  • @geographyRyan
    @geographyRyan Год назад +2

    When you say "based on a design that never existed" are you referring to the Worcesters? Because 2 of those were actually built and saw service

    • @Arthion
      @Arthion Год назад +1

      Jingles moment. Although the US navy would probably sooner forget about them given how.. troubled.. they were

  • @thetaraptorprime6725
    @thetaraptorprime6725 Месяц назад +1

    this looks like a slightly heavier mino-chester

  • @daanseys6115
    @daanseys6115 Год назад

    I'm out of the game for more than a year already, so I'm wondering, what's the thing under his F button?

  • @michaelhildebrandt1898
    @michaelhildebrandt1898 Год назад

    That video title gives me a very bad "Ohrwurm" :-)

  • @DuncanC05
    @DuncanC05 Год назад +2

    G’mornin peeps 🤙✌️😁

  • @michaelturton
    @michaelturton Год назад

    Dear god. I left when the subs came. I see it was a wise decision

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 Год назад

    Think the Montana stopped shooting at the Goliath because it went unspotted.

  • @DiscretionaryLobotomy
    @DiscretionaryLobotomy Год назад

    nice madonna reference

  • @weir-t7y
    @weir-t7y Год назад

    Wait for his heal to come off cooldown....after not using the faster cooldown button

  • @jaywerner8415
    @jaywerner8415 Год назад +1

    "Diving deep works both ways" No it doesn't. Jingles, Subs have a "surface ship finder" It KINDA works like Radar but its not CONSTANT. for 45 seconds or so it send out a sonar wave every 5 seconds that shows you a "shadow" of any surface ship in range where the wave hits them. It does not SPOT enemy ships but it does help a Sub Captain keep track of enemy ships around their sub when they DIVE DEEP. (it only works when your submerged btw.)
    The SUB FINDER however, much to my own amusement, can be used at ANY DEPTH. And that thing will DETECT any Sub within its area at ANY DEPTH. So even if your on the Surface as a Sub and you know their is an enemy Sub in the area and he dives, just pop the sub finder and you got "underwater" radar for like 40 seconds. (now imagine in Hydro Serach did the same dame thing, instead of only 2kms).

    • @Hell_On_Gaming
      @Hell_On_Gaming Год назад +1

      There is so much wrong with sub balance right now, but I will say the minimap spotting consumable is offset by its delayed information and the ship's reduced speed submerged.
      What is really funny to me is that capital ships have batter asw than screen ships. It's probably a hot take, but I'd trade no homing torps for no asw aircraft.

  • @speedernl3146
    @speedernl3146 Год назад

    Hope that Jingles filters the chat in the replay next time.

  • @andrewtheaj2633
    @andrewtheaj2633 Год назад

    The í is like an ee
    So Martín is more like “Marteen”

  • @charlestownshotokan5704
    @charlestownshotokan5704 Год назад

    See Fluffy for the pronunciation.

  • @broccanmacronain457
    @broccanmacronain457 Год назад

    Great Game

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Год назад +1

    ✌✌

  • @gaborferenc2276
    @gaborferenc2276 Год назад

    re 10:52. No, the Conqueror does not

  • @alfgrebs6172
    @alfgrebs6172 Год назад

    Jingles and struggling with every single language, even if its basic :D

  • @gkgameplaycz
    @gkgameplaycz Год назад

    the no-t9 matchmaker is a bit too common nowdays

  • @daftmedic1
    @daftmedic1 Год назад

    Argentinian cruiser you say… *cough* Belgrano *cough*

  • @mileskrieger4627
    @mileskrieger4627 Год назад

    Why do u say NA servers have more cruisers?

  • @Katara19971
    @Katara19971 Год назад

    its sounds like the drink Martini without the last i

  • @HolySoliDeoGloria
    @HolySoliDeoGloria Год назад

    8:16 making *ship up

  • @RealCaptainJaws
    @RealCaptainJaws Год назад

    Diurach is a Klingon name, I don't care what anyone says.

  • @petekaiser8856
    @petekaiser8856 Год назад

    My guess would be "San Mar-TEEN"

  • @bigcat5781
    @bigcat5781 Год назад

    In the 1930's the Argentineans had a couple of cool crusiers

    • @kristoffermangila
      @kristoffermangila Год назад

      As well as the '50s, although that one had the dubious honor of eating a torp from a nuclear sub in the '80s...

    • @jcorbett9620
      @jcorbett9620 Год назад

      @@kristoffermangila And the other one became better known as a torture and rape ship!

    • @fernandomarques5166
      @fernandomarques5166 Год назад

      ​@@jcorbett9620and that one is in the game too!

  • @ethang6735
    @ethang6735 Год назад

    The cardinal rule about the nevsky is NEVER ignore the nevsky... unless its mine then please feel free ; )

  • @Fr33Zone
    @Fr33Zone Год назад

    👌👌👍👍

  • @AdmiralSpaceballs
    @AdmiralSpaceballs Год назад

    1:30 no i prefer the cvs over the subs

  • @Darknamja
    @Darknamja Год назад

    Good afternoon. 1715 hrs (KST) ☺☺

  • @ElmCreekSmith
    @ElmCreekSmith 9 месяцев назад

    San Mar-TEEN'.

  • @09epyon
    @09epyon Год назад

    Mm is surprisingly balanced. Did WG finally break it?

    • @dwwolf4636
      @dwwolf4636 Год назад

      Nahh. It "works" in the same manner as a broken clock does...it's right twice a day..

  • @KingofStreet3
    @KingofStreet3 Год назад

    Am I one of the few people that use dive/depth charge bombers as a poor man’s radar looking for tracers?

  • @tigeriussvarne177
    @tigeriussvarne177 Год назад +1

    Morning y'all

  • @duroph1943
    @duroph1943 Год назад

    👍

  • @markfrank3307
    @markfrank3307 Год назад

    Morning Mighty Jangles. Who is San Martina?

    • @scott2836
      @scott2836 Год назад

      The San Martin was an Argentinian theoretical design. “Don’t Cry For Me, Argentina” is a famous song from the Broadway musical Evita (and the movie that was made based on it).

  • @uh60rider2000
    @uh60rider2000 Год назад

    I think it's pronounced "San Marteen" but I could be wrong

  • @jasonanalco542
    @jasonanalco542 Год назад

    Not to correct the Mighty Salt Mine Overlord but its pronounced "Mar-teen"

  • @raiznsisig
    @raiznsisig Год назад

    Oh... It's from Statsbloke huh...

  • @Zorglub1966
    @Zorglub1966 Год назад +1

    Hi all!

  • @sylvainprigent6234
    @sylvainprigent6234 Год назад

    My very humble opinion is that having two submarines is worse than having one CV.
    I guess this is subjective but as a BB and cruiser player I often find it very very hard to catch the good submarine players.
    And when you can't push, you can't get close enough for your ASW planes.
    CV planes are indeed very bad but I despise submarines