Bethesda Responded to the Starfield Controversy...

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @MercuryManProduction
    @MercuryManProduction Месяц назад +1615

    The cope coming from Emil is honestly sad at this point. The man is completely in denial, and as long as he wields power at Bethesda, I have very little hope for ES6.

    • @Lady_Amelia-Eloise
      @Lady_Amelia-Eloise Месяц назад +11

      Why?

    • @KaijuAKD
      @KaijuAKD Месяц назад +215

      They stopped talking to gamers years ago. This quotes are for shareholders, and none of them play videogames

    • @thomasthedankengine6510
      @thomasthedankengine6510 Месяц назад +121

      @@Lady_Amelia-Eloise simple every game by Bethesda since fallout 4 has been garbage.

    • @Olafmikli
      @Olafmikli Месяц назад +47

      They've been bad since oblivion

    • @jhonayo4887
      @jhonayo4887 Месяц назад +119

      ​@@Lady_Amelia-Eloise because he's a trash writer

  • @SuperCarrot
    @SuperCarrot Месяц назад +250

    My biggest problem with Starfield is how inconsequential everything is. Say you finish faction quest, it doesn't change state of the world at large that much. You build yourself base after base. You become producer of everything. In the end of the day it doesn't matter. You go through unity only to do it again. The whole game design, the ending and new begging make every decision you make during the game hugely inconsequential.

    • @mattmark94
      @mattmark94 Месяц назад +44

      "None of this matters" is the worst message you can insert in an rpg.

    • @theguylivinginyourwalls
      @theguylivinginyourwalls Месяц назад +25

      @@mattmark94 And they had a golden ticket to actually _do something_ with the whole "nothing matters" angle with the multiverse garbage. And they did what we all should expect from Bethesda by now: _absolutely nothing._

    • @sternencolonel7328
      @sternencolonel7328 Месяц назад +15

      absolutely on point, I could live with a lackluster story without any consequences for a while, if the rest of the content would work properly.
      I loved the basebuilding in FO4, but in starfield ?
      They serve no purpose other than looking pretty and after seeing my freshly hired crew getting gunned down by my own base defense turrets, repeatedly, I lost any interest in this pointless endeavor.

    • @scubasteve3032
      @scubasteve3032 Месяц назад +5

      And there lies the problem, shortly after starting this game, I came to the same conclusion that none of this matters.

    • @paulustrucenus
      @paulustrucenus Месяц назад +2

      ​@@mattmark94Fun is not realism, Fun is reinforcement.
      Gabe Newell

  • @frolicsomgaiety
    @frolicsomgaiety Месяц назад +1102

    No way the company that sold the same game to us 40 times is resting on their laurels and rent seeking! No way

    • @otiswalsh8923
      @otiswalsh8923 Месяц назад +36

      resting on their yannys?

    • @theoneand0y
      @theoneand0y Месяц назад +19

      @@otiswalsh8923the dress is blue and black actually

    • @WokeFatti
      @WokeFatti Месяц назад +12

      That’s capitalism for ya

    • @numberonedad
      @numberonedad Месяц назад +61

      the excuse that starfield is a "massive game" is hilarious. there are many games larger by every metric.
      the truth is that starfield is a small, shallow, cramped game, especially by space adventure sim standards (emil's words).

    • @Ike_of_pyke
      @Ike_of_pyke Месяц назад +28

      ​@@numberonedadliterally every time I hear "it's huge " I look at no man's sky and Eve and elite

  • @GrimGalore
    @GrimGalore Месяц назад +844

    "We've like heard your criticisms... But we're like actual game designers... So we like know more than you" - Emil Paganini, probably

    • @urikomik3663
      @urikomik3663 Месяц назад +31

      Oh don't worry just let them fail and lose money eventually they'll get it. Or the company ends, up to them really. Sure keep designing your game however you want it, even if players don't buy it.

    • @medievalpeanut4269
      @medievalpeanut4269 Месяц назад +12

      @@urikomik3663it’s owned by Microsoft now, I don’t know how much they will be allowed to continue to screw up but ai have a feeling they’ll be allowed to do this for more time to come.

    • @CollideFan1
      @CollideFan1 Месяц назад +5

      Yeah those fans are tourists 🙄

    • @Jodie-G198
      @Jodie-G198 Месяц назад +8

      Don't besmirch my violin-man Paganini's name like this, again, please. 😆 The elder man actually was competent in his chosen profession.

    • @mathers000
      @mathers000 Месяц назад

      @@medievalpeanut4269 yeah it's owned by microsoft so they'll be allowed to screw up even more, just look at 343

  • @lisa1162
    @lisa1162 Месяц назад +214

    I tend to agree with the point that the reason people were upset with the ending of Fallout 3 wasn't that it ended, but they kill you off with radiation, when you can have radiation immune companions that could have saved you from dying, but straight up refuse.

    • @reaperdragon1
      @reaperdragon1 Месяц назад +2

      Ummmmm spoilers!!! 🤣🤣

    • @goatslayer3160
      @goatslayer3160 Месяц назад +54

      That's the perfect example of how delusional and self absorbed Emile is.
      He once said "Even if you write the next great American novel, and it's great and beautiful, the players are just going to rip out the pages and make paper air planes with it."
      They did eventually give you the ability to let your companions do it instead, but the ending changed and said that the true hero was your companion and that the player was just a coward.
      In no world other than Emile's does that make any sense at all. He was just salty the players didn't like his garbage writing and very clearly took it out on them. He thinks players hate his writing because they're essentially mindless toddlers incapable of appreciating good writing, he obviously hates us. It used to be that hating the people who put bread on your table was a sure-fire way to get fired, not anymore though. Bethesda is finished, they'll never make a good game again.

    • @thunderkrux7745
      @thunderkrux7745 Месяц назад +30

      “I'm sorry, my companion, but no. We all have our own destinies, and yours culminates here. I would not rob you of that.” If they said this at a moment in a game where there’s a chance for character building or an important moment in a character arc, that would be one thing. But in a role playing game where you’re expected to end your life is ridiculous. The fact that they changed the ending so you survive is proof that even they couldn’t stand by that ending

    • @brianm.595
      @brianm.595 Месяц назад +9

      It was a pointless design choice that showed basic lack of understanding about why people play games. Its not a novel... it's not a Shamalan movie, we didn't want a twist. They didn't want to hear it way back then. My own hated bethesda change was fusion cores for power armor. That's not a fallout thing. Power armor is rare in that universe (one of the reasons why your character would put up with the brotherhood of steel.) Bethesda made up "refueling" your power armor a thing so they could be different and litter the world with power armor.

    • @sykrotima9528
      @sykrotima9528 Месяц назад +3

      I would have respected the CHOICE if it was intended to tell a more fulfilling story.
      The way it was implemented was stupid though because it felt like it wasn’t ended properly, though the DLC did further the story.

  • @pko1683
    @pko1683 Месяц назад +585

    reminder emil said story doesn't matter. This guy is the head writer, wrap your brain around that.

    • @paulbryan6716
      @paulbryan6716 Месяц назад +58

      Clearly he doesn't have one.

    • @fireballs7346
      @fireballs7346 Месяц назад +5

      when did behtseda had ever good story its all about exploration and characters and places

    • @madmantheepic7278
      @madmantheepic7278 Месяц назад +83

      @@fireballs7346 they had some, now there's nothing. If you don't understand why having atleast some story matters in a game then i cannot help you.

    • @rbrb3967
      @rbrb3967 Месяц назад +42

      If story doesn’t matter then neither does his job

    • @TheNuts1225
      @TheNuts1225 Месяц назад

      Story doesn't matter in an rpg lol.

  • @ronburgundy2457
    @ronburgundy2457 Месяц назад +601

    What they fail to understand is that the resentment consumers have for this game will 100% carry over to their next release no matter how good it is. If you can't acknowledge failure and then gaslight your supporters you will end up losing a lot of support in the future.

    • @Ydrakar
      @Ydrakar Месяц назад +60

      The only way i’m playing tes6 at this point is if it is superior to skyrim in all departments on launch (unlikely) doesn’t have a creation club (incredibly unlikely) and better mod support (effectively impossible.)
      And even then it’ll have to be 90% off.

    • @oroboros88
      @oroboros88 Месяц назад +24

      I would love to agree but literally look at COD, ppl have been dumping on it for years and yet they still keep coming back every release like an abused wife

    • @Ydrakar
      @Ydrakar Месяц назад

      @@oroboros88 well, CoD players are orcs.

    • @AlaiasAlias
      @AlaiasAlias Месяц назад

      @@oroboros88CoD fans are braindead drones, they can’t think, ofc they buy it every year, same goes to NBA 2K FIFA etc.

    • @samwyatt8634
      @samwyatt8634 Месяц назад +8

      @@Ydrakarthose are some very rigid expectations, you won’t be playing tes6 then.

  • @GinSoakedBrain
    @GinSoakedBrain Месяц назад +129

    Never forget that this studio BROKE Fallout 4 and walked away.

    • @Mkrause762
      @Mkrause762 Месяц назад +23

      Theyve broken Skyrim every update for 10+ years

    • @fluffernutter6633
      @fluffernutter6633 Месяц назад +1

      @@Mkrause762 They have not, they've updated and fixed the game for 10+ years.

    • @Mkrause762
      @Mkrause762 Месяц назад +8

      @@fluffernutter6633 every update breaks nearly every mod and all of the upgrades they’ve released (special edition, legendary edition) have been downgrades

    • @fluffernutter6633
      @fluffernutter6633 Месяц назад

      @@Mkrause762 Mods are irrelevant, they aren't part of the official game. I use mods and I don't blame Bethesda when they update their game. If updates "break" your modded game that's 100% on you.
      Special and Legendary edition were not "downgrades" Special edition was a straight up upgrade in every possible way, even modders will tell you that special edition is better.
      Legendary edition is debatable, you get a bunch of content but you have to update your game and your mods. Again, if you have to update mods that's on you, otherwise Legendary Edition is just a straight-up improvement to the base game.

    • @Mkrause762
      @Mkrause762 Месяц назад +6

      @@fluffernutter6633 the sound in special edition is worse for one, dude I’ve played legendary edition the new content is garbage

  • @klaesegret75
    @klaesegret75 Месяц назад +470

    Starfield may be a technical marvel for bethesda, however, it's not a technical marvel for the industry at large. Mass effect, No Man's Sky, Star Citizen... do I need to go on?
    For crying out load. Modders figure out how to implement vehicles in fallout 4 before bethesda could figure out how to implement vehicles in starfield.

    • @twaindriver
      @twaindriver Месяц назад +46

      Funny too because that vehicle they added in Starfield feels comically wrong, I swear they are trolling us.

    • @tjep2670
      @tjep2670 Месяц назад +15

      I dont think they couldn't figure it out. They stated multiple times that they just didn't want to have it in their game, or felt it wasn't needed.

    • @Papa-Murphy
      @Papa-Murphy Месяц назад +21

      Seriously. At best it’s a technical marvel for the Creation Engine, but that’s on them for being shortsighted and refusing to swap.

    • @Someguy6571
      @Someguy6571 Месяц назад +10

      @@Papa-Murphy swap to what? Unreal? Creation engine is fine. It's Bethesda being lazy and not wanting to develop these things.

    • @Papa-Murphy
      @Papa-Murphy Месяц назад +11

      @@Someguy6571 Unreal would be a massive improvement. They have more people working on Unreal than Bethesda has total employees, so it will always be way better.
      Bethesda would just need to port over whatever RPG systems and their Modloader they want, but that will still be way easier than them trying to catch up to Unreal.

  • @Biomancy
    @Biomancy Месяц назад +205

    And in Starfield the NPCs no longer have daily schedules. It's back to the Morrowind days where the shopkeepers are always at the counter and never go to sleep.

    • @nicolapellegrino1072
      @nicolapellegrino1072 Месяц назад +3

      Don't have daily schedule because there are different timings among the planet systems... obviously you can travel from a planet system to another and there was the risk of finding the store closed. Normal Npcs have the daily schedule.

    • @Biomancy
      @Biomancy Месяц назад +35

      @@nicolapellegrino1072 they could just have made schedules work on universal time instead of local time since it wouldn't make sense for someone to work 8 hours local if each local hour is 100 earth (universal) hours. I kinda wish sleeping worked on universal time for that reason, or at least have an option to switch between them.

    • @ErMarietto
      @ErMarietto Месяц назад +22

      Cause they developed the game in 2 years but keep telling you the story that they did it in 8 years.

    • @my0866
      @my0866 Месяц назад +1

      Good, I would hate to travel to a planet to use a shop, just to wait for the shops to open, or sleep for a few hours, wasting my time.

    • @generalgreevus8773
      @generalgreevus8773 Месяц назад +9

      ​@@ErMariettoIt looks like they spent only 8 months on actual development. I cannot imagine Emil and Todd will have a job for very long if the elder scrolls 6 will be a commercial flop. I guarantee behind closed doors Microsoft is fuming because they are not getting any money back they spent after dropping 8.1 billion dollars to buy Zenimax

  • @robovinefilms1811
    @robovinefilms1811 Месяц назад +94

    Forgive me if I thought THE Bethesda Game Studios was capable of more. Being contrarians to the reception and leaning on "Hard Work."
    This isn't an indie developer.

    • @memeticks3610
      @memeticks3610 Месяц назад +12

      Ironically an indie studio did better, it's called "No Man's Sky".

  • @TallDarknGruesome
    @TallDarknGruesome Месяц назад +30

    If i spend 2 days cooking a meal that ends up burnt and salty, the wasted work doesn't make it a good meal.

    • @ICCUWANSIUT
      @ICCUWANSIUT Месяц назад

      Yes this studio reads as if they learned the lesson on how to burn the food and how to over salt the food and are proud of doing so.

    • @LegDayLas
      @LegDayLas Месяц назад +2

      But you still try to eat it and tell your partner who cooked it for you that you appreciate the effort :D
      The problem here is we are not married to Bethesda, we actually hate them at this point lol. We don't care how hard they worked, we are no longer sympathetic to their incompetence.

    • @charlyb.9406
      @charlyb.9406 Месяц назад

      ...and it doesn't get better if you cook it again

    • @flyawayq5115
      @flyawayq5115 17 дней назад

      @@LegDayLasThis is the way

  • @KT-ki6gz
    @KT-ki6gz Месяц назад +277

    “No ego, no arrogance”
    Guy has no self-awareness and needs to go, sorry 🤷‍♂️

    • @DeeZire
      @DeeZire Месяц назад +26

      He's ignoring the first rule of PR - you can't communicate your way out of a problem you behaved your way into.

    • @tiberiuskirk2593
      @tiberiuskirk2593 Месяц назад +4

      Emil has all the signs of a narcissist. Everyone has ego. It came free with your humanity.

    • @Kaylinatka
      @Kaylinatka 22 дня назад

      Emil is quite possibly the worst canditate for being a writer. the guy hasnt lived a life he could write about. he was the fat geek in mom's basement, cradled by family and religion until Todd gave him a job. from then on they happily lived in the bethesda bubble. both never deemed storytelling as important EVER. you often hear and see them actually talking down to creating stories.

  • @KirkulesTM
    @KirkulesTM Месяц назад +24

    In no way is Starfield the biggest, richest space simulation RPG anyone could imagine nor is it in any way the best game Bethesda has developed. Fo4 had better gameplay and crafting, Skyrim had better level and world design, Morrowind has some of the best story and questing (and the secrets were mind-blowing). What even is Starfield when compared to their own work, does it do anything better than their previous titles?

  • @Jan_von_Gratschoff
    @Jan_von_Gratschoff Месяц назад +162

    Yeah Bethesda has a 10 year plan for their games alright. That plan is outsourcing the majority of dlc content development to modders with the studio taking off a slice of the creation shop sales, while their own dlc content is downgraded to the bare minimum and sold at full dlc prices.

    • @dranzerjetli5126
      @dranzerjetli5126 Месяц назад +5

      Modders are the best thing to happen to Bethesda. They just don't have to fix anything and use the unpaid free labour to sell their games. Its actually quite genius if you think about it.

    • @BossMan302
      @BossMan302 Месяц назад +8

      The problem is all the good Bethesda modders want nothing to do with starfield. It’s not even worth modding.

    • @goatslayer3160
      @goatslayer3160 Месяц назад +4

      You could also argue that modders are the worst thing to happen to Bethesda. If they didn't have the mind set of "the players will just fix everything and make it an actually good game for us" then Starfield may have turned out very differently.
      Of course you could also argue that Bethesda is extremely incompetent and are going to release garbage no matter what, so it's better to have modders who might be able to turn it into something actually good.
      Perhaps it's a mix of both.

    • @zachrohler1047
      @zachrohler1047 Месяц назад

      Bethesda gets more than a slice. We have to buy their currency to buy creations. They get the entire pie, then we give modders the currency, which they also take a chunk of. Ergo Bethesda is getting paid twice for stuff they had nothing to do with. Their currency doesnt even exist so they lose nothing at all. But they gain twice.

    • @-carpet-
      @-carpet- Месяц назад +3

      Starfield feels like it was designed just to be a space themed platform for mods and then they added a story last minute so they could actually sell it as a game.

  • @jayporter1981
    @jayporter1981 Месяц назад +500

    Idk how anyone at Bethesda could play a game like Cyberpunk 2077 and then think to themselves "wow, we've done a great job on Starfield"

    • @E-087
      @E-087 Месяц назад +45

      Cyberpunk was trash not so long ago

    • @WarPoodle-pc5wu
      @WarPoodle-pc5wu Месяц назад +80

      I'm convinced that no one at bethesda ever actually plays games. I think they are just doing their jobs and that's why every game is getting more and more soulless and devoid of joy

    • @brandonklein1526
      @brandonklein1526 Месяц назад

      @@E-087nah. Had a bad launch and QUICKLY recovered and then came an amazing top tier DLC well worth the money

    • @jiffypoo5029
      @jiffypoo5029 Месяц назад +61

      I'm not defending Starfield, but seriously, Cyberpunk 2077 is the gold standard, it's the first real AAAA game.
      Nothing competes with Cyberpunk 2077.

    • @smark667
      @smark667 Месяц назад +26

      @@jiffypoo5029 I wish they had got it right from the start, because the time they spent fixing things, they could have spent on another dlc. But you're right it is top tier now

  • @Trompimanful
    @Trompimanful Месяц назад +130

    Seriously concerned for ES6….
    What happened? I think the majority of fans agree that starfield is not the best what Bethesda can do. I had more fun with the Dawnguard DLC than the whole base game of starfield.

    • @okonkwojones
      @okonkwojones Месяц назад +2

      Ouch

    • @fireballs7346
      @fireballs7346 Месяц назад +3

      dude🤣

    • @jharju2352
      @jharju2352 Месяц назад +2

      It's not about the best they can do, I'd argue. Bethesda's intention is to keep delivering bottom-tier trash so as to normalize lack of standards when it comes to Fallout or TES. They are trying to manipulate you into lowering your standards to "Meh, at least it's a Fallout game" so they can pump out effortless cashgrabs, one after the other.

    • @agentbrown5542
      @agentbrown5542 Месяц назад +1

      I think the majority of fans actually think Starfield IS the best the Bethesda can do and that's the problem.

    • @Mkrause762
      @Mkrause762 Месяц назад +1

      And dawnguard is not great

  • @Renzo_M314
    @Renzo_M314 Месяц назад +116

    Emil is dragging down the whole company and yet Todd doesn't want to acknowledge it because they're close friends since the older Elder Scrolls games

    • @deztructo123
      @deztructo123 Месяц назад +42

      That's on Todd, being a weak leader and not having the guts to side line Emil and secure the company's future. He's letting his life's work blow away into the wind.

    • @captain4318
      @captain4318 Месяц назад +3

      Nah dude, at best you can say he's responsibility for all writing. Which isn't great, but it never has been. And writing isn't what gets people playing BGS games. It's a tiny part of the full picture.

    • @deztructo123
      @deztructo123 Месяц назад +20

      @@captain4318 you're kidding right? All aspects need to come together to form a successful game as a whole. The whole issue people have with Bethesda games right now IS the story writing. If they got that part right, the other gripes become much smaller. So it's not a stretch to lay blame at Emil's feet, because he's really dropping the ball and everyone else at Bethesda is letting that happen.

    • @NikolaAvramov
      @NikolaAvramov Месяц назад +17

      ​@captain4318 It's only tiny because Todd doesn't appreciate its importance and potential.
      New Vegas is carried by It's writing.

    • @captain4318
      @captain4318 Месяц назад +4

      @@NikolaAvramov True. I'm not saying the writing shouldn't be better or isn't important for games, but I'm saying it clearly has never mattered for BGS games. Which is a huge shame, but a simple fact. It certainly has been better than with Starfield, but it's never been much besides a good quest here or there. So clearly, it's not the one big thing that gets people to buy a BGS game. Doesn't mean they should continue to drop the ball on it, but it certainly isn't the big issue with Starfield. Great writing would've been nice, but definitely wouldn't have changed much about the reception to Starfield.

  • @Takeo4906
    @Takeo4906 Месяц назад +41

    You can clearly tell that all of the real talent that made bethesda successful left the company long ago

    • @pko1683
      @pko1683 Месяц назад +6

      many such cases to be honest

  • @smsov2312
    @smsov2312 Месяц назад +166

    They need to get rid of Emil. Dude has been the main writer of every single story that is universally hated by Bethesda fans.

    • @hypocriticalsatire3966
      @hypocriticalsatire3966 Месяц назад +12

      I initially didnt give in to Emil hate but the guy was head writer/designer for fallout 3/4 minus some dlc. Bethesda games with the strongest writing were elder scrolls games

    • @quasifex3869
      @quasifex3869 Месяц назад +9

      He's also was the writer for Dark Brotherhood quest line in Oblivion which is considerd as one of the best quests in the game.

    • @nicolapellegrino1072
      @nicolapellegrino1072 Месяц назад +7

      Emil Pagliarulo wrote the best questlines in Bethesda games and is a veteran... the problem are the "fans" who criticize a game without even getting deeper in the mechanics of the game... and I've known lots of them.

    • @theboy1625
      @theboy1625 Месяц назад +34

      @@nicolapellegrino1072he’s good at writing focused stories but when it comes to writing a whole overarching story he’s horrible at it. He’s has his moments like with making the dragon language out of claw marks but he’s only good at that small ideas

    • @OpoOnTheGo
      @OpoOnTheGo Месяц назад +28

      ​@@nicolapellegrino1072ah yes, the only thing wrong with Starfield is the critics... very profound insight, Mr. Emil.

  • @16bitzntricks
    @16bitzntricks Месяц назад +145

    I genuinely think Emil Pagliarulo needs to stay off social media, in general. This feels like a story I've heard multiple times now that always roots back to him just yapping on Twitter for whatever stupid reason.

    • @Ultradocker
      @Ultradocker Месяц назад +1

      stay off social media? The guy should never get a job in the industry again and taint games with his dogshit writing.

    • @MechaMan2012
      @MechaMan2012 Месяц назад +11

      I've seen a bunch of devs like that. Talented to some extent in some areas, but social interactions is not one of them. For Emil it's especially bad because for a while now he's made it abundantly clear that, if he hears there were some people who did like his stuff or if the game can pull some metric that sounds great to the uneducated, he just handwaves any negativity as a lie.

    • @RickReasonnz
      @RickReasonnz Месяц назад +3

      Surely his bosses must tense whenever he opens his yap. Why aren't they reining him in?

    • @TNTspaz
      @TNTspaz Месяц назад

      ​​​​He is in a leadership position at Bethesda. He also very obviously is full of himself and can't take criticism. Now imagine trying to work with this guy who basically only has to answer to Todd. Who tells him he is God's gift to mankind. Imagine being a low to mid level designer who is trying to tell him he did something wrong. Now couple this with the fact the studio has such an information lock down that the only people legally allowed to talk about the inner workings of the studio are Emil and Todd. Everyone else has to do it anonymously​@@RickReasonnz

    • @NikolaAvramov
      @NikolaAvramov Месяц назад +18

      ​@@MechaMan2012Emil isn't talented.

  • @Libertas_P77
    @Libertas_P77 Месяц назад +12

    I appreciate you holding BGS to account along with MrMatty. You’re both my top BGS channels, but I appreciate you’re not just blind fanboys that don’t provide them with the criticism that both Bethesda need, and are being the voice of the community.

    • @mattmark94
      @mattmark94 Месяц назад +2

      isn't Mr Matty a bethesda shill?

    • @Libertas_P77
      @Libertas_P77 Месяц назад +3

      @@mattmark94 He published a highly critical video on Shattered Space, so no he’s a fan but clearly not a blind shill.

  • @Colorado-Coyote
    @Colorado-Coyote Месяц назад +133

    You were on the money when you said we want games that feel like they were lived in. That was my favorite part about skyrim and fallout. You just don't get that and starfield. I missed the books and the stories they had in skyrim

    • @CanEHdianBob
      @CanEHdianBob Месяц назад +14

      I remember actually reading every single book I found in Skyrim. With Starfield, I close immediately to Take it.

    • @thebreadbringer
      @thebreadbringer Месяц назад +7

      Bethesda has never made a Fallout world that feels lived-in, though. Fallout 3 has people living in tetanus shacks 200 years after the bombs, with pre-war skeletons in their living areas. Same for Fallout 4 where there's just garbage everywhere, even though people live there.

    • @angelmessenger8240
      @angelmessenger8240 Месяц назад +4

      @@thebreadbringer That frustrates the life out of me, there's plenty of brooms.

    • @winzyl9546
      @winzyl9546 Месяц назад

      That hasnt been the case for the FPS fallout games though.

    • @martoncsepregi7099
      @martoncsepregi7099 Месяц назад +1

      Thing about the books, many of them are from earlier titles.

  • @skullbucket819
    @skullbucket819 Месяц назад +18

    With his current philosophy, Emil is entirely unfit for his position. He actively avoids critiques of his products, so he will never learn, and BGS games will continue to fail.

  • @TheBHAitken
    @TheBHAitken Месяц назад +80

    Whenever developers say that 'making games is hard" I reply "That's WHY you get the big paycheck, remember?" Bethesda STRIPPED the game engine including several FUNCTIONS that could have alleviated a LOT of the complaints including most of the loading screens. I have NO sympathy for them whatsoever. Whenever Emil asks us to "cut him some slack" I end up thinking that he really doesn't deserve that huge paycheck he gets from Microsoft.
    Seriously, Elder Scrolls 6 is going to end up being an empty map with buildings/encounters/quests going for $10 a pop. They did it with Flight Simulator, Microsoft will happily do it here.

    • @pko1683
      @pko1683 Месяц назад +24

      I've heard more "making games are hard" in the last two years than the previous 25.

    • @brycedery9596
      @brycedery9596 Месяц назад +4

      @@pko1683 Culture of entitlement inside the offices grows on par with a belief in their own exceptionalism.

    • @Faminetheblack
      @Faminetheblack Месяц назад +9

      Seriously, they act like we're asking them to do brain surgery. Just make a good game, they've had the tools for like 25 years. They're just too incompetent to get anything good done.

    • @SquatchingYou
      @SquatchingYou Месяц назад

      I see your point but most game devs don’t get very big paychecks lol

    • @martymcyourflysdown6872
      @martymcyourflysdown6872 Месяц назад +2

      @@brycedery9596 Interesting choice of words. A good example of Entitlement would be all the spoiled kids crying that Bethesda made a game they didn’t like..

  • @monkeyzone4562
    @monkeyzone4562 Месяц назад +56

    to say that no other studio knows dlc 4 months after the Shadow of the Erdtree and a year after Phantom Liberty which are dlc that can be compared to full games is a whole new level of arrogance i didnt know possible

    • @statixfear
      @statixfear Месяц назад +3

      I guess he just meant dlc, in general. He didn't quite clarify that it was GOOD dlc 😂

    • @zuzoscorner
      @zuzoscorner Месяц назад +2

      What is this Paradox where htye relase overpriced DLC for features th should have been the base game.

    • @HiveFleetKronos40K
      @HiveFleetKronos40K Месяц назад +1

      the price isn't great either. in the uk, phantom liberty is £25, blood and wine is £16, shattered space is £26, erdtree is £35 but i'd happily pay £35 for erdtree, blood and wine and phantom liberty. shattered space should be like £15 at absolute maximum

    • @CreativeUsernameEh
      @CreativeUsernameEh Месяц назад

      shadow of the erdtree was significantly worse than the base game and also clearly unfinished with tons of cut content, no ending, and false advertising that was cut… not to mention narrative retcons. It kinda shat on the base game and retroactively ruined a lot.

  • @btbarr16
    @btbarr16 Месяц назад +35

    Let me guess before I watch the video. Their response was still somehow tone deaf. Am I right?

  • @ravinous
    @ravinous Месяц назад +11

    Starfield has an interesting setting, were you can't experience any of the actual interesting events. The main quest would have worked as a side quest as a faction quest, but it doesn't work as a stand alone story to drive a game.

    • @jonjonson6840
      @jonjonson6840 Месяц назад +2

      This! Its like the whole main quest was designed around the new game+. And no aliens, besides animals. They should of stuck to just our solar system then. Whats the point of diff solar systems if you dont discover another alien race? It gets boring fast and it did for a lot of players.

    • @sanholo2483
      @sanholo2483 Месяц назад

      This, add to it quest design, which is atrocious and the lack of in game consequences for your actions which your player experiences and lack of choices makes the whole "start over again" pointless

    • @HiveFleetKronos40K
      @HiveFleetKronos40K Месяц назад

      the entire time i played through the uc vanguard questline i was wandering why the game wasn't set during the war

  • @KeithZim
    @KeithZim Месяц назад +37

    All game franchises owned by publicly traded USA companies are dead. WallStreet is death for great games. They only sell almost good...

  • @thedave7599
    @thedave7599 Месяц назад +9

    "the biggest, richest space simulation RPG anyone could imagine" yeah that sure isn't Starfield... It's not even close and the fact they think it is just shows how arrogant and disconnected from reality Bethesda is

    • @lennysmileyface
      @lennysmileyface Месяц назад

      I thought space sim involved simulating space.

    • @harkonan5913
      @harkonan5913 20 дней назад

      give avorion a try, loads of fun

  • @ransom--
    @ransom-- Месяц назад +33

    Juicer,
    I'm glad you are getting more critical of Bethesda while still being reasonable. They need criticism from major outlets, content creators, etc... because their last two major releases have been pretty bad. I'd like to see them return to making good games and part of that process is their fans letting them know that this isn't what they want.

    • @Odder-Being
      @Odder-Being Месяц назад +5

      As you can see fans do let them know that this isn't what they want but Bethesda is tone-deaf. The only way for them to change is that there are no pre-orders for TES-VI. And if that game also sucks with bland characters/uninteresting quest writing there will be hardly any sales. That's the moment Bethesda is going to feel it $$$ wise.

  • @quickchicken506
    @quickchicken506 Месяц назад +2

    I'm glad to see you finally do an honest review instead of just cuddling the devs. Thank you

  • @shadoeboi212
    @shadoeboi212 Месяц назад +31

    Starfields biggest issue is and continues to be the story and the universe. Like the individual systems are good to ok but the connective tissue is meh

    • @thebreadbringer
      @thebreadbringer Месяц назад +4

      Exactly. Though, I'd say it's a little more than meh. It's the most boring world I've ever seen, both aesthetically and lore-wise. No intelligent aliens, no properly thought-out factions, no interesting designs. Just fucking bland.

    • @julieblair2615
      @julieblair2615 Месяц назад +1

      It seriously feels like they spent most of their time trying to make the procgen work and left story, lore, and concepts to the last minute. Or rather that they thought space was so inherently interesting that the game didn't need its own creative formulation.

    • @shadoeboi212
      @shadoeboi212 Месяц назад

      @@julieblair2615 its not that anything of the main story or world building is bad per say but its shallow. like there are some well written stuff(UC and the terrormorph plot from the UCs questline) but then you got stuff like the main quest line which has some interesting ideas they dont do anything with

  • @brananananandon
    @brananananandon Месяц назад +51

    We have space travel but can't swim underwater...

    • @danteunknown2108
      @danteunknown2108 Месяц назад +12

      So funny story, recently someone made a shuttle pod mod for the game and when you go straight up into the sky to it's maximum height, the old creation engine splash animation happens over your head. So there's a theory going around that to do different gravity on planets, they might have just rendered the game as though the player is *always* under water. That might have something to do with the no diving thing if you think about it. The water surface might be a texture at the *bottom* of already "rendered" water physics 🤔🤣

    • @TruFirefly
      @TruFirefly Месяц назад +5

      Or being the only person in the known universe with a vehicle

    • @dranzerjetli5126
      @dranzerjetli5126 Месяц назад +2

      Ironic coz swimming was done in previous bethesda games

    • @nicolasferreiro4492
      @nicolasferreiro4492 Месяц назад +2

      Deep as a puddle anyway...

    • @BoredPandaZA
      @BoredPandaZA Месяц назад +1

      We have space travel but no roads or highway system for vehicular transportation in our 'cities'

  • @Colorado-Coyote
    @Colorado-Coyote Месяц назад +42

    One of the things that upset me the most was them not having books to read, like they did in skyrim. They were one of my favorite parts and made me really feel like the world was an ecosystem with people who actually lived in it.

    • @cheylikespie
      @cheylikespie Месяц назад +7

      i agree 10,000%. I feel like throwing us into a brand new world with nothing to refer to, books would have helped really build that universe. Tell me more about how space travel was developed. I'm feeling more and more that Bethesda is catering less and less to the nerds, just trying to streamline for as many players as possible.

    • @torranlegrand3094
      @torranlegrand3094 Месяц назад +8

      The writing team ar bethesda is dead and gone. They cant write à decent stoy to save their lives.

    • @Nyaxxy
      @Nyaxxy Месяц назад

      I mean lore-wise it makes sense that in the far future they'd use tech, not books. And there are data slates and consoles that do give stories and world building, but I do agree it doesn't feel the same and the world building is always localised and not something bigger or broader.

    • @A_N1ne
      @A_N1ne Месяц назад

      Nearly all of Skyrim's books were written during Morrowind's development and a lot of them were based off fanfic from the Daggerfall forms. I wish it had books even if it was only 25% of the amount found in TES games, but that's what happens when you have 0 dedicated writers and a brand new setting.

    • @commanderpanda9356
      @commanderpanda9356 Месяц назад

      ​@A_N1ne that's not true at all. Skyrim has a lot of books unique to its release.

  • @CyberClu
    @CyberClu Месяц назад +8

    The Steam reviews weren't "Overwhelmingly Negative." They were "Mostly Negative." You know, like Earth..."Mostly Harmless."

    • @peterd9698
      @peterd9698 Месяц назад +2

      I recently wondered if someone could replace the legion from Fallout NV with the romans from Life of Brian...
      ... similarly, I wonder how much of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy could be modded into Starfield.
      That is my personal solution for fixing SF: If bethesda stepped back from writing, concentrated on polishing mechanics, and introduced a few changes so that other content creators could introduce different main stories, different beginnings, different quests to access the space powers mechanics etc. Also have no unkillable NPCs. Let the players royally F-up if they want to.

  • @harrydbastard
    @harrydbastard Месяц назад +63

    They could probably be forgiven for saying it's the best game they ever made if they hadn't constantly screwed up everything else and even broke games that were working perfectly fine with bad updates

    • @CtheBest2day
      @CtheBest2day Месяц назад +7

      Im still butthurt about the Fallout 4 "Next Gen Update"

  • @Mahbu
    @Mahbu Месяц назад +16

    I don't know why he'd mention horse armor. It is one of the most reviled subjects in all of gaming, especially as some - including myself - feel it contributed/initiated the trend of paid dlc. Before that, games were complete or mostly complete and the most you'd have to pay for post launch were expansions or sequels.

    • @RAM4elightbars
      @RAM4elightbars Месяц назад +1

      Not Just mention it, but also mention it right alongside examples of the studio continuing to do the same thing.

  • @damace3838
    @damace3838 Месяц назад +39

    The head writer doesnt understand his audience or how to communicate with them, gotcha.

  • @Lunar_Leit
    @Lunar_Leit Месяц назад +7

    i just don't feel like i can connect with Starfield's world. i get that it's space, there isn't much out there, but it just feels like the game gives me nothing to latch onto, only very few times do i get to stumble upon something (something handmade), like the abandon space stations are really awesome, like you wonder what happened, but there is not much content like that in Starfield.
    the 10th time i find a research facility that looks exactly like the 9 others, i don't say "hmm, i wonder what happened here", it feels like such a disconnect when i see the same generated structures, with little to no lore or thought put into them.
    in Skyrim, i know every single thing is there for a reason, so i feel like i'm in a thought-out world.

    • @dranzerjetli5126
      @dranzerjetli5126 Месяц назад

      Dude you didnt see the repetition in the dwarven ruins or the falmer infested caves or the draugr tombs. All these environments were same AF. That made me realize how over hyped Skyrim was and it was a terrible game with mediocre gameplay even the quests were boring AF.

    • @Lunar_Leit
      @Lunar_Leit Месяц назад

      @@dranzerjetli5126 you can have your own opinions, but calling it a "terrible" game is just false. terrible games don't receive this much love and played as much as Skyrim is being played.
      we all know what a terrible game actually looks like. so maybe reserve it for that.

    • @alyrhos
      @alyrhos Месяц назад

      I kind of feel like for it being space there's actually too much out there. You can land anywhere on any planet besides Earth and there will be at least three abandoned facilities within walking distance of your landing site. Like, the game keeps going on about exploration being dead, so Constellation has to chart all those unknown worlds out there. But wherever you go, there are man-made structures inhabited by pirates, Spacers or settlers already there. Just let me have a nice view somewhere without an old factory that I've already seen on 16 other planets before, Todd, I'm begging you!

  • @cristianhurtadocabezas208
    @cristianhurtadocabezas208 Месяц назад +11

    Emil Plagiarulo should not be on The Elder Scroll's VI

  • @ShadowAimai
    @ShadowAimai Месяц назад +35

    Emil is no writer. He is a game *journalist* who wormed his way into the position he is right now by writing good reviews for Bethesda. Look at his record. He doesn't even have a well received fanfic to his name.

    • @woodsgump
      @woodsgump Месяц назад +5

      ah that explains everything because when I saw his background he was a journalist reviewing Thief and then asked or probably “wormed” his way to Thief II The Metal Age where he designed some of the levels 😅

    • @ShadowAimai
      @ShadowAimai Месяц назад +2

      @@woodsgump Right. The studio faced bankruptcy a little while later, and Emil did the same thing with Bethesda after that.

  • @janekbrat6951
    @janekbrat6951 Месяц назад +4

    I think they made a pretty big tactical blunder by releasing shattered space as the first DLC. They should have satrted with one that added some big new gameplay mechanic, like adding big customizable capital ships, implement mech engineering, a completely new enemy faction or space station building. Or at least expand on existing things, like adding a bunch of new locations for planet-surfaces, expanding the outpost system so you can build actual settlements or even small cities, maybe an overhaul for the abillity temple thingies. Shattered space added just a little bit more of what was already there. Might have been fairly decend as second or third release, a contained story DLC for 15/20 dollars maybe. But as a first release 30 dollar flag ship DLC, it was doomed to fail from the start.

  • @redypo
    @redypo Месяц назад +12

    When you really think about it, no one remembers the writing in most of their games. Just specific characters and the atmosphere. Emil is a fraud and needs to be blacklisted from the industry

  • @14kmt
    @14kmt Месяц назад +46

    Are they expecting us to blindly buy the next expansion?

    • @pistolpete7422
      @pistolpete7422 Месяц назад +16

      Yes

    • @TNTspaz
      @TNTspaz Месяц назад +7

      Look at the way people talk about Starfield within the Bethesda bubble. Yes. They don't just expect people to blindly buy it. They expect to even be praised for it

    • @dammyoyesanya4656
      @dammyoyesanya4656 Месяц назад

      @@pistolpete7422good luck to them seeing as Shattered Space didn’t even move the needle at all

    • @Grubnar
      @Grubnar Месяц назад +4

      "Don't ask questions! Just consume product, and get excited for next product!"

    • @HappilyAntiTrans
      @HappilyAntiTrans Месяц назад +1

      Yet most of yall are

  • @WarNvrChanges
    @WarNvrChanges Месяц назад +5

    Emil is living in a fantasy world. If Starfield were to ever have another release it would be a massive flop. I think Bethesda Game Studios knows this too. The truth is BGS has skated by because of their priorly established fanbase. But that fanbase has been burned on their last two game releases so I don’t expect them to be able to continue on with people giving them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I for one won’t be.

  • @biggod9964
    @biggod9964 Месяц назад +5

    Starfield would definitely benefit from a sim settlements type mod

  • @Gam3Junkie7
    @Gam3Junkie7 Месяц назад +13

    SS is overall a decent DLC...for 15 dollars, not 30. They swung and they missed out on 2/3rds of the DLC's potential.
    1st: they shot themselves in the foot with the illusion of choice ending having no value or impact.
    2nd: they didn't add a Va'ruun staryard or other ship parts despite IN THE DLC the Ship Technician of Dazra says "you're lucky I have experience with other manufacturers" indicating that there IS a Va'ruun-specific ship industry!
    3rd: the weapons they did add were mostly reskinned variants of other pre-existing weapons, INCLUDING the Prenumbra, which, unless you BUY THE VULTURE Creation ALSO, the game DOES NOT natively provide the AMMO for!
    Finally: they ONLY did something with Dazra and its environs, which, while I appreciate that level of detail, there was no point in adding a WHOLE NEW STAR SYSTEM full of even more empty planets/moons.
    The ONLY really good thing to come out of this is the beautiful bleak environment of Va'ruun Kai and all the particle weapon ammo that you would otherwise have to pony up tons of credits for.

  • @WarNvrChanges
    @WarNvrChanges Месяц назад +4

    Emil says “ Nobody at BGS is patting themselves on the back while ignoring our players “ while………… patting himself on the back and ignoring the players

  • @BionicFreakOfficial
    @BionicFreakOfficial Месяц назад +15

    I'm sick of people not mentioning the ACTUAL problems in Starfield: It's a self-proclaimed "space game" that isn't a space game at all.
    -It doesn't have actual planets, it just has rng squares.
    -It doesn't have actual spaceflight/spaceships, it just has a teleporting house that includes an entirely optional mini-game where you get
    to teleport into "space" and shoot at things with the worst flying system I've ever seen in a "space" game.
    -It doesn't even have proper zero-G, it instead has a forced "up and down", which defeats the purpose of being in space (you know, the place with no "up and down").
    -And the game is LOADED to the brim with, well... loading screens!
    The proper fix would be to give us SEAMLESS travel EVERYWHERE (no loading screens), actual planets (NO SQUARES), fully manual 6DOF spaceflight, and proper zero-G.

    • @Tearakan
      @Tearakan Месяц назад

      Which is crazy since they do have legitimate zero g fighting in the game. It's just as a person instead of as a spaceship....

  • @marioroman2753
    @marioroman2753 Месяц назад +32

    Nobody should pre-order ES6, stop giving these clowns at Bethesda your money until they EARN it. The only way they will change is if sales tank which as terrible as starfield was it still sold well.

    • @dranzerjetli5126
      @dranzerjetli5126 Месяц назад +5

      Ppl paid loads of money for skyrim re releases. They also bought fallout 4 after the release of the TV show. Don't expect ppl to not consume.

    • @9lowin9Hor5
      @9lowin9Hor5 Месяц назад

      Todd Howard: "People will buy anything." He added: "That doesn't mean you should do it. [But] they will buy anything. That sounds terrible."

  • @Joshua2019
    @Joshua2019 Месяц назад +10

    outposts are pretty useless. Wish they were more like fallout settlements.

  • @humblekek-fearingman7238
    @humblekek-fearingman7238 Месяц назад +4

    Emil just needs to stand down, his rise in the company directly correlates to an overall lowering in story telling quality.

  • @leonbrooks2107
    @leonbrooks2107 Месяц назад +3

    I’m one of the weird ones who actually enjoys playing Starfield. Even I can’t justify paying the amount Bethesda are asking for this DLC.

    • @kanekissjgod7264
      @kanekissjgod7264 Месяц назад +2

      Weird nah lol, i actually enjoy it too, but this DLC just wasn't it, sure it was nice playing it with fresh new eyes, but replaying it multiple times? It gets real real stale. Compared to skyrim's dawnguard DLC, even till this day i'm finding new stuff on that
      DLC, but. The thing with shattered space for me, is just heavily story driven, lack of content. Like what? 6 new weapons and a couple of new grenades? That was it...? They could of done something similar to dawnguard or better. New powers, New Perk Tree(Starborn), More ships(or new), A new mechanic with the vortex's, and so on(I'm just ranting at this point lol).

    • @leonbrooks2107
      @leonbrooks2107 Месяц назад +1

      @@kanekissjgod7264 I haven’t bothered getting Shattered Space due to the ver reasons you have described. I watch quite a few gamers on RUclips and Twitch and not one has said this DLC was worth buying.

    • @kanekissjgod7264
      @kanekissjgod7264 Месяц назад

      @@leonbrooks2107 Yea nah lol unless you really are a va'ruun fanatic, then sure, but other then that, you're not missing out on much, other then scenery and a couple of gear. Try snagging it when it goes on sale if anything.

  • @Valefor
    @Valefor Месяц назад +5

    This game was giant open and empty it feels more like scaffolding for a game not a finished game. Like it's meant to have planets filled by mods and Bethesda couldn't be bothered

  • @MnemonicHack
    @MnemonicHack Месяц назад +10

    Emil is a good example of the Peter Principle, in my opinion. He did great working in past things, including the dragon language in Skyrim and the Dark Brotherhood quest line.
    But placed in charge of an entire world, he just wasn't up to the task. It wasnt all his fault of course. There were multiple people who didn't quite hit where they were aiming. But being a front man means taking flack if something goes wrong.

  • @paulnolastname9422
    @paulnolastname9422 Месяц назад +2

    You just did a video on "15 Secret Choices" for Fallout 4. I'd like to see you do that for Starfield. I'm not sure you can, because my problem with Starfield is 1.- Very shallow world building; 2 - Nothing seems to link factions together; 3 - The main game still has many borked up missions that were never fixed' 4 - The new DLC broke my game and Steam says I need to delete my game and reload. So, my solution - Play Fallout 4 over again.

  • @Caz69amaR
    @Caz69amaR Месяц назад +7

    How Emil is still a part of bethesda is beyond belief... He is honestly the reason many people just dont buy their games anymore

    • @mattmark94
      @mattmark94 Месяц назад

      He is an old friend of Todd Howard, that's why he has so much power despite his incompetence.

  • @hellorin
    @hellorin Месяц назад +1

    what if instead of ingame digital goods store, you'd have an actual ingame gift shop (which is inside the actual game) where you can buy items which would be shipped to your house irl

  • @jackdruin8750
    @jackdruin8750 Месяц назад +20

    So any news on fallout 4 fix coming anytime soon 🤔🤔

    • @MechaMan2012
      @MechaMan2012 Месяц назад +4

      To parody what was said in the interview about Starfield:
      "Well, just know that on Xbox we've been getting a lot of people enjoying it."
      That's how I see that going down. Could always be proven wrong, but I would not put too much stock in them putting out another patch in the near future.

    • @TheLastCustomer
      @TheLastCustomer Месяц назад +2

      The fix is simple: use a mod to restore it to a previous version.

    • @Sapsche
      @Sapsche Месяц назад +1

      My favorite observation for that matter, is that they managed to immediately add a splash text to FO4's start menu "A very S.P.E.C.I.A.L. congratulations to Fallout on Prime for their Emmy wins!", after the -Amazon- series won the awards, but they're not able to fix the quests that they've *just* added to FO4 (namely _All Hallows Eve_ , the mysterious signal that's part of the quest, simply can't be received. I know, the quest is not hard locked, but still).

    • @Tearakan
      @Tearakan Месяц назад +1

      Restore previous version. There is a way to do it on steam

  • @nimarus3118
    @nimarus3118 Месяц назад +7

    Exploration is what really destroyed the game for me. Land on a planet and found a Research Tower. Okay, this is fun. Find some Dogstar something that's being run by robots. I find skeletal remains and piece together the tragedy that happened there. It think "This is good, I'm liking this so far!" I find a Starship Crash Site and think "I wonder if anyone is alive? Maybe I can help someone?" I'm still enjoying the game. Then, I notice the pattern...the cookie cutter shapes. Every Research Tower is a copy of the last with some minor variables changed. Same layout, enemy and loot placement, everything. The only variation is enemy type and what loot is in the chests. Every one of those factories being run by robots is exactly the same. Every starship crash site is an exact copy of the last. It starts to feel like I'm stuck in Groundhog's Day, reliving the same explored locations again and again and again. A wide open ocean that's only 3 inches deep. I still remember feeling the great weight of disappointment as I realized how pointless exploring the 1,400+ planets in Starfield really is. Will Bethesda ever fix that? Nope. Will Bethesda sell me a $5 asset flip in their paid mod storefront? You bet they will!

  • @devonmoreau
    @devonmoreau Месяц назад +6

    I would give Starfield a 5/10. I would give Skyrim and Fallout 4 a 9/10.

    • @dranzerjetli5126
      @dranzerjetli5126 Месяц назад +1

      Lol when its the same as skyrim and fallout 4 just larger
      All terrible games

    • @dannylive3000
      @dannylive3000 Месяц назад

      @@dranzerjetli5126People wouldn’t still be playing them if that were the case

  • @sstteev
    @sstteev Месяц назад +1

    The guy's name is Emil, not Amil.

  • @420CAK
    @420CAK Месяц назад +3

    13:31 the only quest that stands out is Groundpounder and I can’t remember the names of the commanding officers for the life of me

  • @jp.metalhead
    @jp.metalhead Месяц назад +14

    Bethesda are quick on implementing creation club BS than making a good game

    • @Pantyliner121
      @Pantyliner121 Месяц назад

      Mods are the main feature of any Bethesda game I have played. Their vanilla games have always been trashy to a certain degree. 😉

  • @DalomarGrimm
    @DalomarGrimm Месяц назад +8

    Technically the game runs on my potato system as the most stable experience from Bethesda right out of the box.
    The writing, characterization, dialogue, story (except certain arcs like with the UC vs. Crimson Raiders,) seemed supremely contrived. Even inter-npc relationships didn't have the feeling of being organic but more artificial and forced.
    Starfield had a good scifi premise that was poorly executed as if it were made by folks who had an idea of what scifi stories might be without actually having read or experienced real scifi stories.
    In the beginning of the core game I counted three missed opportunities in the first two hours to hook in the player and empower them with choice that could be more immersive and invest the player in the universe, giving a more organic path to pursue the story and side quests.

  • @Sound557
    @Sound557 Месяц назад +3

    The older you get the more Benson’s speech about excuses becomes relevant.

  • @Sir_Jimmothy
    @Sir_Jimmothy Месяц назад +6

    I'm only 12 mins in and while I don't doubt that Starfield is their biggest game, after only 287 hours, it feels like I've done everything. I've gone NG+10, gone through every main and side quest a handful of times, done everything that's popped up randomly warping to planets, and it seems like there's nothing left to do.
    All the POIs are the same, and unless I wanted to visit every world multiple times over in hopes of triggering every single random event, it just feels like I've completed everything the game has to offer. I haven't gone back for Shattered Space, and I'm not yet sure whether I will.
    In contrast, I've played 600 hours in the original Skyrim, 242 in Special Edition, and 1247 in Fallout 4, not to mention the other Fallout games, and I know for a fact that there's more I haven't seen in those. While Starfield may be huge, it feels empty, even not taking into account all the desolate worlds.

  • @danieldragotti2608
    @danieldragotti2608 Месяц назад +3

    Emil needs to go. He shouldnt be lead writer.

  • @comatoast87
    @comatoast87 Месяц назад +6

    You have to be insane to model your business and products around shareholders and upper-management who do not play games and do not resonate with the audience they claim to cater to AND expect your company to be successful. The walls are crumbling around the "giants" so they will learn one way or another.

  • @merrickfernandez4734
    @merrickfernandez4734 Месяц назад +2

    Howw is Emil still employed?????

  • @bobSeigar
    @bobSeigar Месяц назад +12

    "I declare MY product a technical Marvel."
    What is new? Not new to _you_ but new?
    "Starfield has Personality."
    As much as mud.

  • @bobby1129
    @bobby1129 Месяц назад +2

    My fav non-main companion is Kaiser the robot . anyone who played the UC vanguard faction quest knows that robot had such a cooo story and personality. I was so sad that we weren’t able to recruit him :(😢

    • @EloquentiaSerpentis
      @EloquentiaSerpentis Месяц назад +1

      "Cool stuff you can't interact with" is the real soul of the game itself really.

    • @bobby1129
      @bobby1129 Месяц назад

      @@EloquentiaSerpentis ya it’s unfortunate this one I’m not able to recruit but man I will remember tht character as one of bethesdas best imo

  • @aersla1731
    @aersla1731 Месяц назад +9

    Starfied fan base is strange, I don't understand the tribalism behind it. I think maybe if it was the only game you have ever played, I could see why you would defend it so much. It's not the worst game ever but I think just some of us that have played previous BGS titles expected a bit more. This was definitely the final straw for me and BGS games. I would have to wait and see if es6 will be good after the novelty wears out.

  • @CalamariPlaysStarfield
    @CalamariPlaysStarfield Месяц назад +8

    Bethesda is coping hard, they seem to be making more shitty games as time goes on and it's just going on a downward spiral. I'm genuinely concerned for ES6 at this rate

  • @davidb4715
    @davidb4715 Месяц назад +4

    What I expected out of starfield was summed up in another game. Eve online, in their latest video from the scope showed an actual cult doing cult things. And I don't play eve anymore, but wanted the serpent worshipers to be them, not Dr. Seuss of a faction.

  • @Rabaheo
    @Rabaheo Месяц назад +9

    Dude, 3-5$ for some individual skins, that's not DLC, that's microtransactions.

  • @KaijuAKD
    @KaijuAKD Месяц назад +4

    Watching this video because it's the only way I have to give Juice a little push. Love this channel, But Starfield is not even worth pirating.

  • @CaptainSteen
    @CaptainSteen Месяц назад

    Great video! I loved the 1st play through but something felt off. I couldn't explain why I didn't want to keep playing Starfield or the pre ordered DLC. You summed it up perfectly. The game doesn't have any memorable quests, factions or non companion characters. I played and replayed Fallout 4 for 5 years straight.

  • @Uncommon_Valor
    @Uncommon_Valor Месяц назад +3

    Man just fire Emil at this point, dude is so insanely tone deaf it’s wild. Also as you mentioned I can remember specific random quests in Skyrim and I haven’t played in 2-3 years. I played through 2 faction quest lines and quite a few random side quests, I have zero motivation to start up the game and try playing through the last main faction quests. I enjoyed starfield it just feels empty and uninteresting after 30-40 hours in the universe and dozens of “random” locations with spacer after spacer.

    • @Uncommon_Valor
      @Uncommon_Valor Месяц назад +1

      Also somehow having a ton of nameless NPCs makes the cities feel more empty than whiterun and that place only had 74 NPCs.

  • @Legion-p6y
    @Legion-p6y Месяц назад +2

    And I responded by putting my wallet away and telling them to eat one…

  • @retroambassador2945
    @retroambassador2945 Месяц назад +3

    They wanted it to be the big three, but wanting that does not make it so.

  • @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677
    @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 Месяц назад +2

    If Emil refuses to take criticism, then he needs to be fired. And since Todd is too lazy and smooth brain to do it, we all need to go over his head and pressure Microsoft to fire Emil. I have various ideas to do it and I strongly plea and urge all of you to follow it if y'all want a good Elder Scrolls 6:
    *Boo Todd Howard at the next Game Con he'll appear and mass chant Fire Emil.
    *Spam pleas to fire Emil to every official Microsoft account.
    *Mass Refund Starfield
    *Threaten Microsoft with mass refund and boycott of Microsoft games.
    *Repeat.
    I don't wanna hear any of you saying this idea is ridiculous. It's better than allowing him to ruin Elder Scrolls 6 and any future Fallout games.

  • @mistere9099
    @mistere9099 Месяц назад +9

    My biggest issue with Starfield is that they neutered the "choices matter" component of their games. If NG+ is going to be a thing, we should've had to be the ability to make our universes look as different as possible to reward replaying the game. I've played Fallout 4 multiple times with multiple different outcomes and it's made the game feel different-ish every time.
    I do think that Starfield is going to be a cult game, though, and it does have a bright future despite Bethesda not going all the way with making the writing more dynamic.

    • @dranzerjetli5126
      @dranzerjetli5126 Месяц назад +1

      Is it though?? Is there even any difference??

    • @HM-eg9hv
      @HM-eg9hv Месяц назад +2

      I seriously don't understand how anyone would love starfield. If you want space... give no mans sky a shot.

    • @HeadsFullOfEyeballs
      @HeadsFullOfEyeballs Месяц назад +1

      I mean, they got rid of meaningful choices a long time ago. Morrowind was really the last game of theirs that had no qualms about denying you things based on your choices. Fallout 3's main quest is linear until the very end, and other quests don't affect each other. You can do every quest and join every faction on a single character in Oblivion and Skyrim (barring some civil war battles), even when it makes no sense in-universe. Fallout 4's faction choice is perfunctory, you can do _almost_ every quest for each of them and only pick a side at the very end of the main questline, a decision which only has minor cosmetic effects on the rest of the game.

  • @andredulac4456
    @andredulac4456 Месяц назад

    I think there could be 2 easy fixes to make the exploration better : -make modulable POI with random associations, so you never know what you will discover.
    - Make factions interact with each others. I want to move to a planet and hear a distress signal about an UC base attacked by pirates, something like that.
    Adding random villages and small towns would also be great make the universe alive. We heard about a BIG wars for the control of the galaxy, but you can find only like 5 cities and some random scavenger camps with 3 people inside... honestly it feels like pirates are more numerus and powerful than both the UC and liber astra...

  • @nightowl360
    @nightowl360 Месяц назад +4

    Starfield may be the biggest game Bethesda has made, but also by the far the emptiest, and so shallow. If possible, Bethesda should revamp the game and only open up access to planets that have "something to offer". Something to offer means unique quests, unique equipment or new features. 1000 planets is a TERRIBLE CONCEPT when considering 99.9 % of the planets have nothing to offer. Imagine if only every 30th episode or so of Star Trek actually had the crew discovering something new, and the other episodes just had a loop of a planetary surfaces for 30 minutes. Not too exciting.

    • @Caculon
      @Caculon Месяц назад

      In Skyrim it was so easy to get side tracked because there was always something interesting around the corner (I'm exaggerating a bit here.) so people could follow the beaten path they've been down before but still find something new. But a giant empty world where you have to dig to find something interesting seems to me to be contrary to design of the older games.

    • @willwilson9353
      @willwilson9353 Месяц назад +1

      This is an excellent example of what starfield is. A real time TV series of space exploration. Captains log, nothing of note to report. Scanning of the next planet will begin in a few hours. I really hope the canteen has tacos tonight.

  • @marekkos3513
    @marekkos3513 Месяц назад +2

    When they released FAllout 76 , it was a masterpiece for Bethesda Games , and they were so proud of it

  • @MateuszWasTaken
    @MateuszWasTaken Месяц назад +7

    It's sad to see. I've been playing since Morrowind. I would love ES 6 to be a 10/10. But the delusional fans and devs won't allow it. Starfield had "very positive reviews on Steam when it came out. Delusional players affirm Bethesda devs in their own delusions, that the games they make are perfect, and everyone who criticizes them are haters.

  • @mitchburtoway2862
    @mitchburtoway2862 Месяц назад +1

    Enjoying a game with this much negative backlash feels so dirty. I haven't gamed in awhile so maybe I just got rosed covered glasses, maybe it's just a honeymoon phase.

    • @YourPalKindred
      @YourPalKindred 25 дней назад

      Enjoy what you want. Just because the rest of us don't enjoy it does't mean you aren't allowed to or should feel bad for it

  • @andresbogado7133
    @andresbogado7133 Месяц назад +3

    Emil and Todd self sucking is sad to see, they need to go.

  • @bigjeff
    @bigjeff Месяц назад +1

    4:22 sure bro, You put more into this than Phantom Liberty 😂

  • @aonutsihasnouith
    @aonutsihasnouith Месяц назад +4

    1:30 Elder Scrolls responds, big three it’s just big me. And drops a 5 track run of starfield disses in response.

  • @Minednam
    @Minednam Месяц назад

    Juice you are the best when it comes to Bethesda. You and Mr Matty are my go to

  • @SonofStormblessed
    @SonofStormblessed Месяц назад +4

    The thing this guy (the dev, NOT Juicehead) doesn’t seem to get is that we WANT Bethesda to be known for Fallout and the Elder Scrolls. They’re great games, so having to wait as long as we have is ridiculous, and is beyond annoying at this point. Him saying now we are known for Starfield too is not a positive, it’s negative. But they don’t seem to get that. Almost all of us Elder Scrolls and Fallout fans didn’t want, or ask for an MMO and a new franchise. We wanted more of what we actually love.

  • @xblue555
    @xblue555 Месяц назад +1

    Whenever they say "gamers have high expectations" is the lazy way to say: like it or don't buy it. Games used to come out as complete games, not "we will fix it later." Having loading screens when everything is on a SSD these days is not really needed; the game even says you need one to play it. The world is a mess where everyone bickers over nothing. When I first played, it didn't hit me till the Crimson Fleet, where you are having to argue with someone over and over and over again until the leader tells you to stop. Another issue is that the universe is empty, like F76. The game is 100s of years in the future, and there are at least 8 billion people on Earth, IRL and in the game's story. In the game time we are in, the universe has only maybe 1000 people in the game. Based on that, having 4 major cities that have less than 100 people in them is ridiculous. A lot of the stories were fun, but the game is rated M and plays like a teenager who learned their first curse word. Crimson Fleet are not the pirates the universe says they are. I am still playing the game with mods to flush out the game more, but having modders fix this much of a Bethesda game and charging the player to do so is not cool and should not be accepted.

  • @torranlegrand3094
    @torranlegrand3094 Месяц назад +14

    Bethesda has shown its consumers that they refuse to listen to customer feedback. If they keep this up they will go down the path of Ubisoft, I am never buying a game from them ever again until they start listening to fans and get a decent writting team to work on their games. What a shame.
    Bethesda rpg's are my favorite games by far and this situation is very saddening to me. The mighty have fallen and elder scrolls 6 seems doomed.

  • @DarkZodiacZZ
    @DarkZodiacZZ Месяц назад

    I think that mission where you are an observer to Shrödinger's box has the same impact as nuking the Megaton. You get to decide if a group of people continue existing or not. That one gave me old sci-fi episode vibes.

  • @calebszyszkiewicz719
    @calebszyszkiewicz719 Месяц назад +5

    get rid of emil bring back kirkbride

    • @Pickle_Maniac
      @Pickle_Maniac Месяц назад

      There are nerds willing to crawl out of their basements, spouting lore as they zombie hoard the studio with chim lol.

  • @marktaylor6553
    @marktaylor6553 Месяц назад

    I think you hit the nail on the head - the content is there, but its bottled up in three areas (now four), and we also got the 'open world' to explore, but the content isn't THERE - those areas are boring. We want all that content as PART OF the exploration, and they have completely lost that aspect. And also as you've said, the characters (thus, the writing) makes you not care about the NPCs, at all. Not even the companions.

  • @theomnidegenerate5236
    @theomnidegenerate5236 Месяц назад +3

    1:00 that’s not even true and if that was their goal, they still failed. No man’s sky is larger with far more variety and a better space simulator than Starfield is and I don’t even just mean right now I even mean back it it’s release I mean, it was disappointing sure but it was still in near infinite universe you could explore, and it actually had more procedurally generated content and Starfield dead, but also remember that it came out with technology that was 10 years older than what Starfield had to work with for its current day release. Oh wait actually no it didn’t. I forgot they refused to abandon their creation engine, which was obsolete over 10 years ago, so I guess technically it was an even playing field.😂