This RUclips channel is actually so good. Instead of just promoting their product (which I pay for and believe is definitely worth it), they actually make videos about very interesting technological topics which are very high quality and sometimes even more engaging/interesting/entertaining than videos from larger RUclipsrs such as LTT. It is unlike other similar channels which just have promotional videos and nothing else. This channel and the Surfshark company is truly top notch!
As an English language learner from Europe, I’m curious where exactly did you spot the excessive use of articles in this video. Because I didn’t catch anything unusual while rewatching it in 2x speed :)
So, as a native speaker, there are super small things that you can catch, kind of like an american can tell if someone is canadian or midwestern based off of cadence, inflections, and turns of phrase etc. Just dropping small things like an 'a' or 'the' shows english is not native. All the same, his knowledge of the language is damn impressive. If I could speak any other language with half the fluency he does, I'd consider that impressive. @@aRandomPersonOfTheInternet
3:25 Rufus also gives you 6 additional options if it detects that you are adding a Windows 11 ISO (it doesn't need to be Tiny11 specifically), and one of these options is to disable the requirement for TPM 2.0. The other 5 are just as useful. Pretty neat stuff. 12:29 You can also use an application called BloatyNosy to debloat the system. Maybe a suggestion for a future video? :) Also, great video! Hold my thumbs up!
Tiny10 exists, if you have an old PC that handles windows 10, then you'd rather try Tiny10 which gives you enough options, if you really really need a working windows on that machine.
i heard tiny10 messes up some things with the gpu because it has no windows store, might not get it. I'll get tiny11, because I've seen people get a better experience with it
The best thing to do for old computers that are absolutely needed to run a modern OS is to install more RAM, provided that's possible. The laptop in this video only has 3GB. Even back in the day, I wouldn't purchase my machines with so little memory. 4GB minimum is a must. Laptops from this era should be upgradeable to 4GB if not 8GB. All my HP laptops from this time can be increased to 8GB. It makes a HUGE difference, even in browsing. If RAM is sufficient, replacing the HD with an SSD is the next step, and that will transform the system. They're dirt cheap. It doesn't matter what OS or software you have installed on an old computer if the hardware is not up to the task. This video is a 'can it be done' experiment. Of course, it can be done but it's not enough to install a stripped-down version of an OS, any OS, to run apps these days. I have laptops from 2008 that I use _daily._ You really need to upgrade the hardware in a legacy system for daily use. After that's done install a light OS.
I had an old windows laptop with 4gb of ram. Was slow as hell til I upgraded to 12 gb of ram, and after that the speed increase was incredible. I don’t use that computer anymore tho because last year I got one that’s a lot, LOT better
for doing normal browsing, pdf reading, consuming media, linux is still better choice for old computer. specially when you use something like openbox, it would run like recent hardware
Yep, Linux is complicated but is worth it for ancient hardware even older than this laptop in the video. But for Tiny11, I’d definitely recommend it over CrOS Flex due to it’s simplicity of running stuff like EXE files and browsing the web well
After installing Tiny 11, run Chris Titus' Winutil to remove even more stuff. After start up, then run KillEm utility to kill processes to give you more CPU and memory.
@@jalisahkennedy4845I sure they do, but I fail to see what relevance that has to my point. Why would I hate someone who provides me with endless "flip-flopping" amusement while I enjoy my first cup of coffee in the morning? Only a toddler thinks in terms of "hate". "Get me those sweets, mummy, or I will hate you forever." I don't need to hate anyone who I can simply choose to ignore and who has no influence on anything I do. You're not a toddler, are you?
Fun part is that this is a corporate channel, which is supposed to post only their products ie, basically advertise or tutorials for their own products. This is a testament to this guy's personality. He singlehandedly made a boring channel fun to watch.
Try out Windows 10 LTSC. It is an edition of Windows 10 that has absolutely no bloatware, no OneDrive, No UWP, ONLY X86_64. It even has the Windows 7 Calculator. You will get what feels like lifetime support upto 2035.
Me using too It also have no ugly multimedia programs so i installed irfanview with minimalizing options in configuration, and winamp It's better than vanilla windows bloat
i installed tiny11 on a 2004 xp laptop with a core 2 duo at 2.1ghz, 4gb memory, 256gb ssd and it honestly runs quite well. youtube playback is sadly only limited at 480p, but it brought an old pc back to life. web browsing is manageable, but larger sites take several seconds to load. it's nice how de-bloated versions of windows can bring old pc's back to life
The drawback with windows 11 versions like this is they are about to implement patches that will detect the actual hardware and disable win 11 if its not running all the requirements despite the install bypass. They do make a similar version to this of windows 10 that I use instead. Windows 10 lite.
I use my old laptop from 2012 or 11 i think (not sure how old but it is old) to play retro games and watch videos on my tv by vga. I used linux, tiny 10, android x86, batocera, lakka, retropie. Linux was by far the best for me. Android x86, for me, did not have native bridge which did not allow some android apps and games to run at all.
8:00 You can install latest macOS on older unsupported MacBooks by just flashing it from a bootable drive and it works just fine. Many people over YT have done that as well for your reference.
I personally use a dell latitude E5500 as my daily PC. It had 4gb of ddr2 upgradable to 8, a core 2 duo p9700 upgraded from a t7250 a Intel gm45 chipset gpu and a 250gb 860evo. It's more than usable, needs more ram, though 4gb sticks of ddr2 are horrifically expensive. Other than that it's great and can do some light gaming like half life and even triboots windows xp, 7 and 11 all x64
The elevated price for 4Gb ram stick sucks. I flip old laptops and there is a lot of performance still to be milked out of older models that can be upgraded to 8Gb, yet the cost makes it prohibitively expensive to buy
I've used Tiny 11 and also Tiny 10 before, and they're fine for their purpose. The problem is when you get a new major update, sometimes things get really broken. Nowadays I'm all LMDE6 on all of my laptops, with Windows 11 only on my gaming machine...which I will change when I'm not feeling so lazy.
I have a similar machine from 2008, it is tiny. STandard 2Gb Ram. Fortunately it had a RAM slot, I upgraded to 8Gb RAM, and SSD. Installed Linux Mint 21 (latest 2024 version) and it works a charm as a web and file server.
I did a comparative performance test on a Nickelodeon - branded Dell Netbook running on an Atom processor and 1GB ddr2, first booting to Tiny 10 and then to Zorin OS, and Zorin was, by far, the most responsive. The netbook was booting from a HDD, so that makes it even more impressive.
@@guaiqueritech the difference here is zorin was developed for low end hardware meanwhile that's not the case for windows ppl modded it to get it to work but it doesn't mean stability you r comparing things means for completely different systems to begin with
If you like Zorin, try Mageia Cauldron and enable ZRAM. It is so fast and smooth. Even on a very old Dell Vostro 1700 with a Core 2 Duo and only 3G of RAM (though I did install and SSD).
@@eterna1379 again, no: 1) the purpose of the video is to try to give additional life to older hardware using alternatives to Windows 2) the video is evaluating a cut-down version of Windows meant, precisely, to keep older systems in use. I’m providing an easy to migrate to alternative that works even better. 3) you are conflating Zorin OS Lite (meant for older hardware) with Zorin OS Core (meant for modern hardware); the fact that the Core version runs on good on older hardware is because it’s merely less resource-intensive than Windows, but that’s on par with most Linux distros 3) therefore, my comment is still valid: an alternative to windows that’s easy tu run on older hardware.
I’ve loaded Tiny10 into laptops of this era and similar specs, and it runs very decently. There are a few hoops to jump through to allow it to update (it’s disabled by design in the build I have), but it is a great alternative for people who 1) can’t be bothered to learn the nuances of a new OS and/or 2) require specific programs that only run on Windows
@@zetsubou3704 so far it has only updated drivers, not added unnecessary programs. By the way, Windows Update is enabled by default on more recent versions of Tiny10
Yes, I have several laptops that were made in that year. Some have SSDs and that makes a huge difference. Also, their RAM is at least 4GB. I would never run a machine these days with less than that even for the lightest duty, regardless of OS.
@@jamesaron1967 yes 4GB is a must. 2GB is doable if you run a less resource intensive OS like windows 8.1, XP or Linux but still not ideal. Luckily most computers from that era can be upgrade to 4 sometimes 8GB of ram.
I'm watching this from a 2010 Laptop this is my second laptop and it's not obsolete because I have a I7 740QM and a HD 6370M GPU with 8GB Ram with Windows 10 (11 is shit) and to be honest with a SSD is fast as hell I don't need to upgrade since It's my second Laptop it works extremly well
i got a laptop with 4th generation cpu(1.70ghz, 2.40ghz turbo boost) i didnt made any upgrades on it and it works pretty well it can run bmgdrive on 26gfps which is playable im surpised it can run it obviously on low graphic but for a laptop made in 2016 that it came with a 256ssd 8gb ram 940m nvidia gpu and 2.40ghz cpu is really good it costed 300euros(1500PLN) im happy with it@@SurfsharkAcademy
@@luke_avila it has driver issues with NVIDIA NVS 3100M, also the IDT audio can’t change the equalizer and the quick launch buttons don’t open correctly. Also there is no sound through the DisplayPort with newer nvidia drivers. Only the oldest one works but the flight simulator I use flight gear requires a 2013 or later nvidia driver. Also recently the built in microphone would stop working after the laptop sleeps. So my experience with the laptop is not that good anymore
1:34 there is a lot wrong with that. If you pay for that operating system, then the company behind it should only serve you exactly that. The money you paid, should be enough for the operating system. They should NOT include ads on top of the premium you already paid. Windows is the only operating system you pay for and yet they are the only ones who put a metric ton of ads on top of that. This is a very huge problem.
i wish budget and reliable laptops were made with low specs but important stuff like ports, disc drives, bigger screens and heck even 7200rpm hdds. i say that be perfect for entertainment use
the installation speed depends greatly on your host media speed, meaning your tiny usb flash drive also has tiny speed. ssd source installs almost immediately.
This HP Laptop for 2009 is not exastly "OLD" I mean it is but if you are talking about Old and Retro computers then you are talking about Windows 98 computers which you should get one and play some 90s game for pure nostalgia
Extensions like h264ify (or the enhanced version of that extension) do wonders for old laptops in youtube. RUclips switched to VP8/VP9, and later to AV1 as their video codecs. Old laptops tend to lack GPU accelerated decoding for those codecs, and hence it has to be done via the CPU (which isn't exactly great on these old laptops). By using that extension, you force youtube to serve videos using the h264 codec, which is extremely well established, and for which these laptops more than likely have GPU decoding support. This massively lowers CPU usage and makes video playback a hell of a lot smoother. It does produce lower video quality and it caps at 1080p60, but for those laptops that is perfectly fine.
A+ for this comment! On Linux, Chrome browser also works much better on old hardware with acceleration disabled! I also use The Marvelous Suspender extension (Chrome) and uBock Origin and my old Core 2 Duo with 3G and a ZRAM swap is super smooth.
I have a toshiba a300 from 2008, it's sorta obsolete (Core 2 Duo paired with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470), it has windows 8.1 with 3 GB ddr2 ram and an HDD. It's surprisingly kinda fast, I have no idea why it's so good, but I still use it sometimes for fun, like playing Half life or Garry's Mod in the range of 20-30 fps.
I have a 10-year-old Dell laptop with an AMD E1 6010 processor. This processor appears to have the performance of a Core2 Duo. I found that installing the full version of Windows 11 was fine as long as I installed nothing from Windows Updates. If the updates came, it made the laptop unusable. The laptop became super slow and the screen froze for a second several times each minute. To permanently disable Windows Update, the only way I could find was to go to Settings and tell it that my internet connection was a metered one. Windows Update is set by default to not download updates on a metered connection. To make things a bit faster, I installed Tiny11 instead. It works well.
I use 8.1 cutdown version on c2d PCs. It works way better on old hardware and HDDs than 10 and 11, and also works optimal on old laptops like core i5 2360m, where Win10 running suboptimal even on ssd.
Linux can be awesome and all but not all laptops work properly on some laptops, ESPECIALLY 2-in-1 laptops. Though I was able to workaround much better with Fedora but Tiny11 can help a lot of people who doesn't have any experience in tinkering their laptops.
I installed tiny11 on a pc that can run windows 11 very well even thought i had to bypass specs but tiny11 removed things i actually need like video player msgamingoverlay(for its recording capability) my win11 got corrupted so i installed tiny11
I own an Intel MacBook Pro from 2015. I'm considering installing Tiny 11 on it because it can't get updates anymore due to lack of storage. Plus other issues as well.
I also agree with using old hardware in modern days. It feels so great! I actually use an Inspiron 1525 from 2008 with an Intel Core 2 Duo T6400 daily. I tried many operating system: Windows Vista (default), Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10, Windows 11, Ubuntu (haven't tried other flavours of Ubuntu tho). Ubuntu can actually be resource consuming too. Windows 10 is very slow on it and sometimes unusable. Windows 7 also can be slow at times and Windows Vista actually runs the best and gives good battery life too. Windows XP also runs the best but it's way too outdated relatively
You could go one step further and copy all the ISOs of your OSes to Ventoy :) 1 USB drive and as many ISO files that can fit on it, ready to install the one... 10 ISOs and 1 USB drive instead of 10 ISOs and 10 USB drives...
I've been planning a retro Windows XP built (circa 2008), but I don't want to deal with program incompatibility, browsers not working, etc. I think this might be what I was looking for.
You should stress that if you have a great computer that is older and you want Windows 11 then put a SSD in and go for it. I have some older 11 year old OptiPlex's and they have a quad-core i5 and 8 Gb of ram. They are real clean. I got a SSD in it now and put Tiny11 on it and I would not have been able to do this without Tiny11. It skipped all the hardware recommendation's and that was nice. Anyhow, runs great. I have it at 17 Gb on my SSD. So yeah, ok, it works, it runs well. I just went to Microsoft and got Edge on my external HD and loaded in my OptiPlex and we are all good to go. So now that I mentioned it then try it yourself. It loaded to the desktop in 16 minutes!
My biggest questions is how are you not getting screen stutters my sister's 2015 laptop has screen stutters it freezes for a bit and then work again so I need some help with this
Windows 10 on my 2013 Asus took about 5-10 minutes to be usable on boot. I put Zorin on it, from boot to open/editing Libre office Writer document: 56 seconds. Not going back.
Amazing that W11 Tiny would run at all on the Vista machine. But how does W11 Tiny bypass the W11 requirement for UEFI? That is a hardware BIOS-based function, isn't it?
10:50 Maybe is better to install ssd and upgrade 8gb of ram to have less than 50% of RAM usage, also use Chris Titus windows utility can bring less cpu processing, more ram and privacy controlled through powershell.
Yeah obviously, the original windows 10 ran very poorly on an HDD it's almost mandatory to use an SSD, so that would kind of remove the whole point for using tiny 10
Most of the forced software (and hardware) "upgrades" are for their benefit. Not ours. Windows 7 already did everything I need. As did Word, excel, PowerPoint etc. This is true for most people who don't use their PC for gaming or 3d design/ editing. It's infuriating when that laptop that did everything perfectly suddenly starts crawling at a snails pace as warnings and nagging pop up everywhere to demand that you "upgrade" and software companies stop their product working on old Windows.
i love how surfshark is getting audience from IT through this entertainment videos and also growing community in this channel to keeps the brand existing. at first i was attracted with the title and thumbnail of this video, and then a couple of seconds in beginning of this video. good job for the branding & marketing team, perhaps i would love to hear if surfshark has open their recruitment for that team.. :p pretty much appreciated!
Question: can a i5 6500 paired with 16 GB ddr4, 256 GB SSD (Sata or nmve) plus an HDD of 500gb be enought to do: web design (paired with Photoshop, ilustrator and adobe XD or Figma), use some electric and electronic circuit simulation apps ,PCB and PCL design (simple things for a university student), use of control and automation systems apps (also simple things for a university student), project management applications and programming with arduino, assembly language, bank and Windows system apps Ana other things related to this Os system?
i installed lubuntu on my similarily specced laptop but lego starwars the complete saga wont run well via proton. on windows 10 it ran well. ima try dualbooting
Does it work on Unsupported Processers? Anyone can Reply to me I just Need to know, Planning on Upgrading my School PC But its Processer is not Supported
I am going to install this onto my personal laptop (Ryzen 7 4800H, 16 gig ram) just to reduce the amount of ram and cpu usage to give more room for games
They always say it's fast, and it's never fast. I installed many different Linux distros on my old, low powered PC, and they were all extremely slow. They weren't any faster than Windows.
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What do you think of Tiny11? Is it worth it? Or do you think Linux is better for old PCs?
Tiny11 can also run on old PCs.
I feel linux is better for them as you can never trust a 3rd party Windows ISO as it could be infected with anything without your knowledge.
I prefer Tiny 11
Like a few ex girlfriends would say, that's a lot of power in a tiny package...
I Prefer The OG software that it runs
I got i3 3rd gen laptop. Installed tiny10 to replace win7 last year. It worked like a charm. No need to go to Tiny11 from the same developer.
I have full win11 on latitude e6430 (i7-3720qm,16gb ddr3, 1tb samsung 870 qvo) and it works ok
@@C64Loverno crap, your system requirement matched with Win11 recommended specs.
@@bagasangga well.. except 8th gen intel core and tpm 2.0 ;)
@@C64Lover _bruh..._ I didn't expect to use the proccessor that was a year ago without a TPM 2.0 XD.
So, is it UEFI or legacy BIOS only?
@@bagasangga UEFI
This RUclips channel is actually so good. Instead of just promoting their product (which I pay for and believe is definitely worth it), they actually make videos about very interesting technological topics which are very high quality and sometimes even more engaging/interesting/entertaining than videos from larger RUclipsrs such as LTT.
It is unlike other similar channels which just have promotional videos and nothing else. This channel and the Surfshark company is truly top notch!
how much did you get paid to post this comment
I really appreciate you commenting this, truly!
@@Connie_TinuityError nothing I just thought the video was very good...
I didn't even notice this was Surfshark's channel.
yeah, these are very good content, they actually focus solely on content and promotes a very small portion to their product.
On a stock Windows 10/11 install, make sure to select English (World) option to remove 3rd party bloat from the beginning
Good tip! Will have to try it sometime
..don't forget to change after install, or nothing will update. Don't worry, it'll let you know.
Not working anymore. Microsoft fixed that.
@@mariussm7797 I couldn't get it on windows 10 recently either, but 11 worked (for me).
Microsoft removed that opinion
I am so curious where you’re from. Dropping little things like an ‘a’ or ‘the’, is super European, but your “Hollywood” accent is really impressive.
Lol thanks! I'm native Lithuanian but picked up an American accent as a child watching RUclips and tons of American media :D
As an English language learner from Europe, I’m curious where exactly did you spot the excessive use of articles in this video. Because I didn’t catch anything unusual while rewatching it in 2x speed :)
So, as a native speaker, there are super small things that you can catch, kind of like an american can tell if someone is canadian or midwestern based off of cadence, inflections, and turns of phrase etc. Just dropping small things like an 'a' or 'the' shows english is not native. All the same, his knowledge of the language is damn impressive. If I could speak any other language with half the fluency he does, I'd consider that impressive. @@aRandomPersonOfTheInternet
you speak wonderfully! thank you for the reply. I've thought about putting tiny 11 on my steam deck.@@SurfsharkAcademy
@@SurfsharkAcademyyo I’m Lithuanian too! I totally thought you were polish before
3:25
Rufus also gives you 6 additional options if it detects that you are adding a Windows 11 ISO (it doesn't need to be Tiny11 specifically), and one of these options is to disable the requirement for TPM 2.0. The other 5 are just as useful. Pretty neat stuff.
12:29
You can also use an application called BloatyNosy to debloat the system. Maybe a suggestion for a future video? :)
Also, great video! Hold my thumbs up!
hey can you help me?
an old laptop which is HP 2000notebook i want to try the tiny11 do you recommend?
@@GHlKl phoenix is lite or revision os
ghost spectre is the best
@@rizonware can it work on a 4gb ram amd E300 cpu?
You guys should try builds from Windows x lite.
Look for ultra lite if you have low end PC
Tiny10 exists, if you have an old PC that handles windows 10, then you'd rather try Tiny10 which gives you enough options, if you really really need a working windows on that machine.
some windows 7 machines can run tiny10 ok too
i heard tiny10 messes up some things with the gpu because it has no windows store, might not get it.
I'll get tiny11, because I've seen people get a better experience with it
or use windows 10 ltsc, after all it has longer support
@@PieManXD Win 10 LTSC works well for english speaking regions
@@2free2snakes what
The best thing to do for old computers that are absolutely needed to run a modern OS is to install more RAM, provided that's possible. The laptop in this video only has 3GB. Even back in the day, I wouldn't purchase my machines with so little memory. 4GB minimum is a must. Laptops from this era should be upgradeable to 4GB if not 8GB. All my HP laptops from this time can be increased to 8GB. It makes a HUGE difference, even in browsing.
If RAM is sufficient, replacing the HD with an SSD is the next step, and that will transform the system. They're dirt cheap. It doesn't matter what OS or software you have installed on an old computer if the hardware is not up to the task. This video is a 'can it be done' experiment. Of course, it can be done but it's not enough to install a stripped-down version of an OS, any OS, to run apps these days. I have laptops from 2008 that I use _daily._ You really need to upgrade the hardware in a legacy system for daily use. After that's done install a light OS.
I had an old windows laptop with 4gb of ram. Was slow as hell til I upgraded to 12 gb of ram, and after that the speed increase was incredible. I don’t use that computer anymore tho because last year I got one that’s a lot, LOT better
How do i download ram
@@lindypill you dont
for doing normal browsing, pdf reading, consuming media, linux is still better choice for old computer. specially when you use something like openbox, it would run like recent hardware
Yeah Linux is still lighter IMO
I am using GhostBSD on a 2012 laptop with an AMD dual core CPU and 8 gigs. it runs like a charm now.
yeah but linux, in my personal experience, can have alot of problems with the wifi adapter chips and require to install some goofy 3rd party drivers.
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg that could be pretty much any OS tbh.. at least windows kinda same when windows itself does not have from its repo.
Yep, Linux is complicated but is worth it for ancient hardware even older than this laptop in the video. But for Tiny11, I’d definitely recommend it over CrOS Flex due to it’s simplicity of running stuff like EXE files and browsing the web well
Can't believe someone else uses the solid colour trick! I always use the colour black since I use wallpaper engine anyway
Wallpaper engine is awesome
I would also recommend ventoy instead of Rufus, I think it's a bit faster and allows you to have a bunch of other ISOs loaded on the same drive
After installing Tiny 11, run Chris Titus' Winutil to remove even more stuff. After start up, then run KillEm utility to kill processes to give you more CPU and memory.
If you need Chris "Mr. Flip-Flop For Views" Titus for your PC support then, "God help you".
@@terrydaktyllus1320 haters gotta hate
@@jalisahkennedy4845I sure they do, but I fail to see what relevance that has to my point.
Why would I hate someone who provides me with endless "flip-flopping" amusement while I enjoy my first cup of coffee in the morning?
Only a toddler thinks in terms of "hate".
"Get me those sweets, mummy, or I will hate you forever."
I don't need to hate anyone who I can simply choose to ignore and who has no influence on anything I do.
You're not a toddler, are you?
U just said a whole lotta nothing also why am I getting a noti for this 😭 idek wdh ur talking abt
Bro whattt😂 me sitting here wondering wdh U speaking abt 😭
I salute you for the hard work you put in your videos i haven't watched other videos but I'm sure that all of them are made with hard work
Fun part is that this is a corporate channel, which is supposed to post only their products ie, basically advertise or tutorials for their own products.
This is a testament to this guy's personality. He singlehandedly made a boring channel fun to watch.
Try out Windows 10 LTSC. It is an edition of Windows 10 that has absolutely no bloatware, no OneDrive, No UWP, ONLY X86_64. It even has the Windows 7 Calculator. You will get what feels like lifetime support upto 2035.
2035, woah! Nice going to try that one!
@@SurfsharkAcademyHe made a typo. It is up to 2025.
@@OnlySolyn He said about regular one, not IoT.
aint it until 2032? the ltsc iot version i mean
Me using too
It also have no ugly multimedia programs so i installed irfanview with minimalizing options in configuration, and winamp
It's better than vanilla windows bloat
I have Tiny10 on my old laptop. It's so much better than Tiny11 since the bloat is missing and now runs in my living room.
i installed tiny11 on a 2004 xp laptop with a core 2 duo at 2.1ghz, 4gb memory, 256gb ssd and it honestly runs quite well. youtube playback is sadly only limited at 480p, but it brought an old pc back to life. web browsing is manageable, but larger sites take several seconds to load. it's nice how de-bloated versions of windows can bring old pc's back to life
The drawback with windows 11 versions like this is they are about to implement patches that will detect the actual hardware and disable win 11 if its not running all the requirements despite the install bypass. They do make a similar version to this of windows 10 that I use instead. Windows 10 lite.
what the heck, i was born in 2008
I was born in 2010
Same bro I was born 2008
Usss bro
Same
I have several computers from 2006-2010 that I use regularly with windows 10/11 and they all run it perfectly fine if you put in more ram and an SSD.
my laptop from 2009 died 2-3 years ago. Rest in peace, old friend
I use my old laptop from 2012 or 11 i think (not sure how old but it is old) to play retro games and watch videos on my tv by vga. I used linux, tiny 10, android x86, batocera, lakka, retropie. Linux was by far the best for me. Android x86, for me, did not have native bridge which did not allow some android apps and games to run at all.
4:24 Thumb up icon lid up in colors , when you ask to leave a like.
yes it even works woth the subscribe button same colorful ring
8:00 You can install latest macOS on older unsupported MacBooks by just flashing it from a bootable drive and it works just fine. Many people over YT have done that as well for your reference.
I personally use a dell latitude E5500 as my daily PC. It had 4gb of ddr2 upgradable to 8, a core 2 duo p9700 upgraded from a t7250 a Intel gm45 chipset gpu and a 250gb 860evo.
It's more than usable, needs more ram, though 4gb sticks of ddr2 are horrifically expensive. Other than that it's great and can do some light gaming like half life and even triboots windows xp, 7 and 11 all x64
The elevated price for 4Gb ram stick sucks. I flip old laptops and there is a lot of performance still to be milked out of older models that can be upgraded to 8Gb, yet the cost makes it prohibitively expensive to buy
I've used Tiny 11 and also Tiny 10 before, and they're fine for their purpose. The problem is when you get a new major update, sometimes things get really broken. Nowadays I'm all LMDE6 on all of my laptops, with Windows 11 only on my gaming machine...which I will change when I'm not feeling so lazy.
I have a similar machine from 2008, it is tiny. STandard 2Gb Ram. Fortunately it had a RAM slot, I upgraded to 8Gb RAM, and SSD. Installed Linux Mint 21 (latest 2024 version) and it works a charm as a web and file server.
I did a comparative performance test on a Nickelodeon - branded Dell Netbook running on an Atom processor and 1GB ddr2, first booting to Tiny 10 and then to Zorin OS, and Zorin was, by far, the most responsive. The netbook was booting from a HDD, so that makes it even more impressive.
You are comparing apples to oranges here.
@@JamesSmith-ix5jd I am literally comparing operating systems, so…no
@@guaiqueritech the difference here is zorin was developed for low end hardware meanwhile that's not the case for windows ppl modded it to get it to work but it doesn't mean stability you r comparing things means for completely different systems to begin with
If you like Zorin, try Mageia Cauldron and enable ZRAM. It is so fast and smooth. Even on a very old Dell Vostro 1700 with a Core 2 Duo and only 3G of RAM (though I did install and SSD).
@@eterna1379 again, no:
1) the purpose of the video is to try to give additional life to older hardware using alternatives to Windows
2) the video is evaluating a cut-down version of Windows meant, precisely, to keep older systems in use. I’m providing an easy to migrate to alternative that works even better.
3) you are conflating Zorin OS Lite (meant for older hardware) with Zorin OS Core (meant for modern hardware); the fact that the Core version runs on good on older hardware is because it’s merely less resource-intensive than Windows, but that’s on par with most Linux distros
3) therefore, my comment is still valid: an alternative to windows that’s easy tu run on older hardware.
I’ve loaded Tiny10 into laptops of this era and similar specs, and it runs very decently. There are a few hoops to jump through to allow it to update (it’s disabled by design in the build I have), but it is a great alternative for people who 1) can’t be bothered to learn the nuances of a new OS and/or 2) require specific programs that only run on Windows
Wouldn't enabling updates reinstall some of the bloat and services that were removed originally?
@@zetsubou3704 yes it does
@@zetsubou3704 so far it has only updated drivers, not added unnecessary programs. By the way, Windows Update is enabled by default on more recent versions of Tiny10
Now I gotta try this with my laptop from 2012/2013!
I also tried it on my T400 (2008 too)
And it's great!
i just tried this and its worth it .....Thank you
I’ve installed the full version of windows 11 on a dual core computer from 2008 with an ssd and it ran totally fine.
Yes, I have several laptops that were made in that year. Some have SSDs and that makes a huge difference. Also, their RAM is at least 4GB. I would never run a machine these days with less than that even for the lightest duty, regardless of OS.
@@jamesaron1967 yes 4GB is a must. 2GB is doable if you run a less resource intensive OS like windows 8.1, XP or Linux but still not ideal. Luckily most computers from that era can be upgrade to 4 sometimes 8GB of ram.
I'm trying on a Sony Vaio with windows 7 and it doesn't let me install windows 11, I did the bypasses but nothing
@@beamishlotus7269 weird, do you have a core 2 duo or an i3/i5/i7?
I'm watching this from a 2010 Laptop this is my second laptop and it's not obsolete because I have a I7 740QM and a HD 6370M GPU with 8GB Ram with Windows 10 (11 is shit) and to be honest with a SSD is fast as hell I don't need to upgrade since It's my second Laptop it works extremly well
That's still a great PC, enjoy!
i got a laptop with 4th generation cpu(1.70ghz, 2.40ghz turbo boost) i didnt made any upgrades on it and it works pretty well it can run bmgdrive on 26gfps which is playable im surpised it can run it obviously on low graphic but for a laptop made in 2016 that it came with a 256ssd 8gb ram 940m nvidia gpu and 2.40ghz cpu is really good it costed 300euros(1500PLN) im happy with it@@SurfsharkAcademy
I put an i7-740QM in my Elitebook 8440p which was a poor investment because it has tons of driver issues on windows 10 and 11
@@0w3nn I understand AMD GPUs (Especially older ones) have lots of driver issues but when you get them working they're good enough
@@luke_avila it has driver issues with NVIDIA NVS 3100M, also the IDT audio can’t change the equalizer and the quick launch buttons don’t open correctly. Also there is no sound through the DisplayPort with newer nvidia drivers. Only the oldest one works but the flight simulator I use flight gear requires a 2013 or later nvidia driver. Also recently the built in microphone would stop working after the laptop sleeps. So my experience with the laptop is not that good anymore
1:34 there is a lot wrong with that. If you pay for that operating system, then the company behind it should only serve you exactly that. The money you paid, should be enough for the operating system. They should NOT include ads on top of the premium you already paid.
Windows is the only operating system you pay for and yet they are the only ones who put a metric ton of ads on top of that. This is a very huge problem.
i wish budget and reliable laptops were made with low specs but important stuff like ports, disc drives, bigger screens and heck even 7200rpm hdds. i say that be perfect for entertainment use
the installation speed depends greatly on your host media speed, meaning your tiny usb flash drive also has tiny speed. ssd source installs almost immediately.
This HP Laptop for 2009 is not exastly "OLD" I mean it is but if you are talking about Old and Retro computers then you are talking about Windows 98 computers which you should get one and play some 90s game for pure nostalgia
Extensions like h264ify (or the enhanced version of that extension) do wonders for old laptops in youtube. RUclips switched to VP8/VP9, and later to AV1 as their video codecs. Old laptops tend to lack GPU accelerated decoding for those codecs, and hence it has to be done via the CPU (which isn't exactly great on these old laptops). By using that extension, you force youtube to serve videos using the h264 codec, which is extremely well established, and for which these laptops more than likely have GPU decoding support. This massively lowers CPU usage and makes video playback a hell of a lot smoother. It does produce lower video quality and it caps at 1080p60, but for those laptops that is perfectly fine.
A+ for this comment! On Linux, Chrome browser also works much better on old hardware with acceleration disabled! I also use The Marvelous Suspender extension (Chrome) and uBock Origin and my old Core 2 Duo with 3G and a ZRAM swap is super smooth.
I recently installed tiny11 on my win11 incompatible 2015 dream pc.
I have a toshiba a300 from 2008, it's sorta obsolete (Core 2 Duo paired with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470), it has windows 8.1 with 3 GB ddr2 ram and an HDD. It's surprisingly kinda fast, I have no idea why it's so good, but I still use it sometimes for fun, like playing Half life or Garry's Mod in the range of 20-30 fps.
Windiws 8.1 Pro is the quickest and most efficient modern Windows, period.
I have a 10-year-old Dell laptop with an AMD E1 6010 processor. This processor appears to have the performance of a Core2 Duo. I found that installing the full version of Windows 11 was fine as long as I installed nothing from Windows Updates. If the updates came, it made the laptop unusable. The laptop became super slow and the screen froze for a second several times each minute. To permanently disable Windows Update, the only way I could find was to go to Settings and tell it that my internet connection was a metered one. Windows Update is set by default to not download updates on a metered connection. To make things a bit faster, I installed Tiny11 instead. It works well.
So, no security updates?
@BoraHorzaGobuchul None, I'm afraid
how come i need to wait like 25 hours for the thing to install
I love old computers too!
I use 8.1 cutdown version on c2d PCs. It works way better on old hardware and HDDs than 10 and 11, and also works optimal on old laptops like core i5 2360m, where Win10 running suboptimal even on ssd.
Linux can be awesome and all but not all laptops work properly on some laptops, ESPECIALLY 2-in-1 laptops. Though I was able to workaround much better with Fedora but Tiny11 can help a lot of people who doesn't have any experience in tinkering their laptops.
I installed tiny11 on a pc that can run windows 11 very well even thought i had to bypass specs but tiny11 removed things i actually need like video player msgamingoverlay(for its recording capability) my win11 got corrupted so i installed tiny11
VLC? OBS?
Yeah- the Xbox overlay with its recording the past 30 seconds or something
Don’t know if there’s already an app that can do that
Vanilla video player, gallery sucks
Vlc, irfanview, winamp
Rufus will also remove the TPM requirement if you want to run an untouched windows iso
Im using 13 years old thinkpad just upgraded the hdd to sdd and now runs windows 10 and feels like a new laptop
What do you do about drivers? Are all drivers automatically found such as video, wireless, sound etc.?
I own an Intel MacBook Pro from 2015. I'm considering installing Tiny 11 on it because it can't get updates anymore due to lack of storage. Plus other issues as well.
I also agree with using old hardware in modern days. It feels so great! I actually use an Inspiron 1525 from 2008 with an Intel Core 2 Duo T6400 daily. I tried many operating system: Windows Vista (default), Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10, Windows 11, Ubuntu (haven't tried other flavours of Ubuntu tho). Ubuntu can actually be resource consuming too. Windows 10 is very slow on it and sometimes unusable. Windows 7 also can be slow at times and Windows Vista actually runs the best and gives good battery life too. Windows XP also runs the best but it's way too outdated relatively
what you need is an ssd
fun fact: i used the regular win 11 iso and used rufus to bypass the requirements.
You could go one step further and copy all the ISOs of your OSes to Ventoy :)
1 USB drive and as many ISO files that can fit on it, ready to install the one... 10 ISOs and 1 USB drive instead of 10 ISOs and 10 USB drives...
SHOULD I DO A FRESH REINSTALL OF WIN 7 OR GO FOR TINY 11 ON MY OPTIPLEX 745 2007
I've been planning a retro Windows XP built (circa 2008), but I don't want to deal with program incompatibility, browsers not working, etc. I think this might be what I was looking for.
For an old 2011 laptop, it is better to get Windows LTSC or Tiny 10/11, or Linux? 👀
i love old computers too
with tiny11 installed do we still need to do regular windows updates?
9:49 : pressing “Adjust for best performance” is what I did for my laptop because it turns them all off!
On my PC I can't install any version of .NET Desktop Runtime after 5 with Tiny11. Even when freshly installed.
Website not opening, why?? Is there any alternative
That thinkpad L480 is pretty cool, i have a e480 with a 7th gen i5 that I use for isolated app testing
My laptop is 4 years younger than this red beauty. For sure going to install tiny11
Tiny 11 wont run on my old dell vostro 1014,any help please
There is a program that updates the date of the pc every time you turn it on, I use it since I was too lazy to change that little battery from it.
I just use Win10 ltsc for old computers and works amazing
Surfshark should sponsor your videos mate
:D ikr
Definitely. Insane how they havent found this guy yet. Its like they are made for eachother!
You should stress that if you have a great computer that is older and you want Windows 11 then put a SSD in and go for it. I have some older 11 year old OptiPlex's and they have a quad-core i5 and 8 Gb of ram. They are real clean. I got a SSD in it now and put Tiny11 on it and I would not have been able to do this without Tiny11. It skipped all the hardware recommendation's and that was nice. Anyhow, runs great. I have it at 17 Gb on my SSD. So yeah, ok, it works, it runs well. I just went to Microsoft and got Edge on my external HD and loaded in my OptiPlex and we are all good to go. So now that I mentioned it then try it yourself. It loaded to the desktop in 16 minutes!
i love old computers
My biggest questions is how are you not getting screen stutters my sister's 2015 laptop has screen stutters it freezes for a bit and then work again so I need some help with this
Windows 10 on my 2013 Asus took about 5-10 minutes to be usable on boot. I put Zorin on it, from boot to open/editing Libre office Writer document: 56 seconds. Not going back.
Can you compare this with the same laptop running chrome os flex?
Amazing that W11 Tiny would run at all on the Vista machine.
But how does W11 Tiny bypass the W11 requirement for UEFI? That is a hardware BIOS-based function, isn't it?
10:50 Maybe is better to install ssd and upgrade 8gb of ram to have less than 50% of RAM usage, also use Chris Titus windows utility can bring less cpu processing, more ram and privacy controlled through powershell.
Yeah obviously, the original windows 10 ran very poorly on an HDD it's almost mandatory to use an SSD, so that would kind of remove the whole point for using tiny 10
Hows this thing using 6% cpu and 56% ram whic his the same as mine but i have a 10th gen intel i5 and 16gb of ram 😭😭
Thanks for your work. Would you like to update the Arm64 version of Win11 to the latest version?
Windows 10 32 bit would work better considering dual core cpu and 3 gb ram and plus windows 10 is still supported for 2 more years
What About Old Drivers which only supports Windows 7 ? Will they support Win 10 ?
It's insane to me that you haven't put at least a $20 ssd in that.
True, for future projects I'll def will. Thanks for watching!
What about licensing for Tiny11? Do I have to worry about putting a Windows 11 license on it?
Should i back up my laptop before installing tiny11?
Yes
6:49 - Should play fine if the display drivers are installed (I have this model of laptop so I might check and report back).
Most of the forced software (and hardware) "upgrades" are for their benefit. Not ours.
Windows 7 already did everything I need. As did Word, excel, PowerPoint etc. This is true for most people who don't use their PC for gaming or 3d design/ editing.
It's infuriating when that laptop that did everything perfectly suddenly starts crawling at a snails pace as warnings and nagging pop up everywhere to demand that you "upgrade" and software companies stop their product working on old Windows.
i love how surfshark is getting audience from IT through this entertainment videos and also growing community in this channel to keeps the brand existing. at first i was attracted with the title and thumbnail of this video, and then a couple of seconds in beginning of this video. good job for the branding & marketing team, perhaps i would love to hear if surfshark has open their recruitment for that team.. :p pretty much appreciated!
could tiny 11 help my netbook with some video playback in web browsing and as well possibly remotely play games?
you need a GPU with A good HW video decoder for this.
@@terabyte100 the other laptops I have though need repair though (currently have my gaming laptop and a netbook)
how is 56% of ram utalized? you have like 2 or 3gb of ram on there?
WinToHDD doesn't recognise it as valid OS , how to work then ?
Wait which iso file do u have to download?
i dont want to be that guy but, you didn't install the graphics drive. that slows down anything visual
Security updates might be an issue?
Why I still have an update on windows 11 tiny?
Question: can a i5 6500 paired with 16 GB ddr4, 256 GB SSD (Sata or nmve) plus an HDD of 500gb be enought to do: web design (paired with Photoshop, ilustrator and adobe XD or Figma), use some electric and electronic circuit simulation apps ,PCB and PCL design (simple things for a university student), use of control and automation systems apps (also simple things for a university student), project management applications and programming with arduino, assembly language, bank and Windows system apps Ana other things related to this Os system?
can i back to window 10 or 8.1 or 7 i
f i install it i must format my pc or not
and he require to activate it or not
Please do a video on the aspire one series GZ5 it’s physically impossible to get a good OS on it without upgrading the internals🙏
On older laptops, is it smarter to add more ram or change the hard drive to SSD to gain some speed?
Yes. SSD is a huge change
i installed lubuntu on my similarily specced laptop but lego starwars the complete saga wont run well via proton. on windows 10 it ran well. ima try dualbooting
could have mentioned how much space it would take o the c drive
Does it work on Unsupported Processers? Anyone can Reply to me I just Need to know, Planning on Upgrading my School PC But its Processer is not Supported
I am going to install this onto my personal laptop (Ryzen 7 4800H, 16 gig ram) just to reduce the amount of ram and cpu usage to give more room for games
I notice that your plant looks like needs water...
They always say it's fast, and it's never fast. I installed many different Linux distros on my old, low powered PC, and they were all extremely slow. They weren't any faster than Windows.