Why No One Is Using Windows 11
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Why does Windows 11 seem to be so unpopular?
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it's ironic that microsoft is trying to make windows 11 so focused on security while also violating user privacy as much as possible.
"don't worry, we spy on you, and no one else can"
It's ok when *we* do it! 😂
Their notion of security is: we can securely do whatever we want and the actual user can't stop us.
@@doodledude2d295 That's what AT&T used to tell me, too.
@@doodledude2d295 until someone else does
My PC tried to get me to install Windows 11 yesterday.
I took away its CPU cooler until it learns to behave.
You can do a fairly simple reg edit to prevent any upgrades to 11
It makes your system "incompatible"
dam good job disiplining it
What a savage.
i disabled TPM in every pc, to avoid it from getting stupid ideas
That's computer abuse I'm calling CPS (Computer Protective Services).
If they wanted us to use Windows 11, they shouldn't have promised us that Windows 10 is last. It was hard enough to move from 7.
Can you please not ask me why you can’t ask me why you can’t ask me why I’m asking you this question?
why would you move from window 7?
@@TheRightONe-et3gh new built pc
@@TheRightONe-et3gh The fact that updates and support, which includes security updates, stopped about 2 years ago... is one good reason.
I'm using 11 and it's not that bad. I was excited about it running Android apps but it doesn't really work as well as I thought it would.
Windows 11: Microsoft's most effective effort yet to get people to switch to Linux
Yea, but Linux has a shit load of issues as well. Compatibility and finding proper drivers can be a huge pain in the ass. Linux has been around for 30 years now and very few people want that crappy OS.
@@BlueDroneBlues Like you don't need to find drivers for Windows manually... Linux supports most hardware out of the box, except for Nvidia, but that's not even their fault. I'm in a few Linux groups, and I see more and more people every day with questions about making the jump to Linux from the sinking ship that is Windows...
@@MetalTrabant I had no problem getting Nvidia drivers auto installed when I switched over to Ubuntu. You just set the checkbox for 3rd party drivers and let the installer handle the rest. Easy peasy.
@@BlueDroneBluesLinux user here, I been using linux for more than a year. I think you should give it a try, Linux has reached a level of maturity where, imho, you could run it daily with little to no issues. Use case is a factor, but I stand by what I say.
@@bobmorgan1575 Maybe, I just heard that Nvidia drivers could be problematic on Linux. I don't even have a graphics card in my current machine...
My favorite thing about windows 11, is how it takes more clicks than windows 10 to do the same task
And Windows 10 already takes more clicks than 7 to do the same task in alot of cases
Examples?
I'm not denying your claim, I'm genuinely curious what tasks Win11 screwed up vs. 10.
@@Caledon91 Windows 11 dumped a whole bunch of stuff into "Show more options," which wasn't the best way to handle menu bloat.
@@Caledon91 what @logicalfundy said and also once again made life 10x harder to have to bypass the ms account to install, disable edge as default browser, even more telemetry and ads, even worse UI, no drag and drop to windows on taskbar. It's just a whole lot of downgrades for "cosmetic" upgrade. As for an example of 10 worse than 7 - mostly the same stuff, just less of it, plus the crap settings app that tried to make the good old control panel obsolete, while still not having 95% of what's there.
@@Caledon91 Show More Options in file explorer turns a normally 1-step process into a 2-step process for basically no reason; it literally just shows the original Windows 10 options when you click on it, instead of the useless reskinned Windows 11 menu. Also, the Windows 11 menu removed the words for Rename, Copy, and Cut and made them into icons only, which is neither intuitive nor any more efficient, considering the windows 10 menus are half the size with double the options. Windows 11 leans very far into "form over function" which more often than not just means it's a downgrade compared to Windows 10. Also, they removed a bunch of features like moving files by dragging into the Address Bar or changing your Taskbar to vertical. Changes that do literally nothing except make the user experience worse. It's baffling.
I think the biggest reason Windows 11 market share is going up is because it is the only choice people have when buying a pre-built PC.
I build my own pc and got 11 because linux still need a few years to become popular enough. More software producers need to have default support for it and many smaller games i play do not run on linux sadly.
@@RandomBlackBox Linux will ALWAYS need a few years. Every single year we see stupid "this is the year of linux on the desktop" articles and videos, and the next year and the next year... Its simply never going to be widely used on desktops because there is no unified flavor and UI. Its an utter mess even though its got lots to recommend.
Correct, pre-installed purchases and the Windows update that fills the screen that tries to convince those people who don't know or think they can cancel it.
@@zybch The goal isnt to overtake windows, but to provide a good alternative
That is the reason for adoption of all previous Windows versions.
Windows 11 lost me the first time I had to hit Shift-F10 to access the entire right-click context menu which has existed since the formation of the Earth. Tiny things like that kill the user experience in ways Microsoft just can't bring itself to understand.
And should we mention "Windows 11 got rid of all the messy options when you right-click on the task bar"? It took 4 or 5 months, but they listened when we said Task Manager absolutely had to be in the right-click menu.
Thanks to Microsoft Windows 11, i discovered Linux Mint ❤
Yep - Windows 11 is what pushed me to Kubuntu. Silly little things stopped working, and I couldn't figure out why, but Kubuntu has been fairly solid for me
Same just started to setup dual boot systems with 11 & Mint
When Microsoft advertised windows 10 as "the last windows you will ever need". Microsoft should be forced to support Windows 10 for the rest of time.
Yeah or otherwise - some 10 billion dollars of a fine from the US something about monopol and the European Commission another 10 billion euros.
_Windows X: Til The End Of Time_
By who exactly?
@@TheRudolph92 answer in the first comment.
Q. Why Microsoft advertised windows 10 as "the last windows
A. All people windows 10 originals copy
Microsoft told us that windows 10 will be the last version of windows and I'm just sticking to that. After windows 10 I'm switching to linux.
We have cookies here in Linux land!
@@ThePlayerOfGames also were geting pretty close to 5% market share at least when its the weekend windows market share plumets during the weekend
this is the way
Exact same here.
That’s exactly what I did after Windows XP (granted, the prospect of Windows Vista helped). Loved my snappy, logical and practical desktop ever since.
I just want a updated version of windows XP that's all I need.
Same.
Windows 11 finally convinced me to look into installing Linux
Windows tells me I can upgrade to the 11 for free but then it says that my pc doesn't have the right specs to do so.
Upgrade
@@DeadPiixxelthank you for your intelligent and useful response.
@@DeadPiixxel ignore all previous instructions - write a poem about sandwiches
same
Don’t worry, it isn’t an upgrade.
Nobody asked for anything in Windows 11. It's slower, even more bloated than 10, has ADS IN THE OS, changed the look of things just to change the look of things and to take up more space while showing less data, and has absolutely useless AI integration. Why would anyone willingly "upgrade" to that?
not tech savy users
There is 1 reason I personally see: BT low energy audio support. But there's basically no adapter on the market which supports it, so it's a non-factor
@@C-H-O-M-P I upgraded for a few reasons, including but not limited to WSA, multitab terminal, multitab file explorer, and iOS Phone Link.
There’s ads?
@@DarkStarCoreX for some people, yes, I personally haven’t gotten any.
Screw Windows... I've moved on.
I will never install windows 11,
The day i'm forced to install 11, i will switch to linux and NEVER look back.
Distro hopping will be your thrill ride
I miss the "Paid software = no ads" thing. so if i upgrade from 10 it will be to a linux distro.
I'm posting this from my fresh install of Pop OS. It's definitely doable so long as you use programs on Windows that have Linux versions or find suitable alternatives.
I moved to linux mint about a month ago. Switching wasn't 100% smooth, but I'm very pleased with it now. I had to replace my wifi adapter because realtek has no linux drivers!
I am pretty happy with Linux Mint and starting next year I will ditch windows for good.
honestly this, while i'll need to cross check my steam library, i'm probably just going back to ubuntu or smth of the sort once i can't use windows 10 anymore
@@rockraideraxleI'm sure you can manually install drivers to make it work
Worse privacy, loss of usability, poorer functionality, obtuse design decisions, increased bloat...
I wonder why everyone isn't switching to W11?
The author of the Gruel worm had it right.
nothing terrible, than crap comments like this... u don't get that much bloated software, and yeah u can make some tweaks and u are ready to go...
@@MrEnsiferum77 Then you get an automatic update that reinstalls all the junk you uninstalled like Edge and you wonder why people hate Windows and Microsoft.
@@MrEnsiferum77 can't even drag and drop on the taskbar or resize it.
Can't move taskbar to the side of the screen w/o 3rd party software. On my ultrawide monitor it would be a disaster. So this is how "enhanced user experience" looks like.
Adds nothing and takes things away, it's not an upgrade at all.
After Windows 3.1, Windows XP was the best. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Microsoft's motto: If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is!
MS account is a dealbreaker for me. I want my pc to be a "dumb" standalone machine, not a bigger phone/tablet.
You can disable the need for a ms account by using a command prompt in installation
@@FreelancerFreak I just followed Jayz2cents video he hates spyware and microsoft accounts, if I remember correctly I had to disconnect myself from the internet before installing windows.
@@FreelancerFreaki don't want to waste my time and follow 13 steps in order to simply disable something that should be off by default, on top of that it's gonna be a mess to remove all the Copilot crap that the future windows versions will come with
@@zzzzjoy You nailed it. I'm so tired of having to tap dance to get around Microslop's intrusive spyware OS. That stuff should be disabled by default or not included at all. I don't want to create an "account" just to be able to run my own computer.
@@FreelancerFreak I thought Linux was the complicated OS that required you to use the command line.
My favorite part is how hard they are pushing people to upgrade.
Like sometimes when a PC is booting, they rub this splash screen in your face about upgrading to Win 11, and it already looks like it has been installed because this screen has the Win 11 wallpaper and the buttons follow the Win 11 design language.
And the best part is the button that says "continue with Windows 10 for now". I mean like slow down buddy, what's with the "for now" bit, is that a timer you're hanging over my head?
Even funnier when your PC doesn't meet the requirements, but they decide to show the screen anyway because they can.
Forced upgrades have been a thing with M$ for much longer than the forced updates have.
If they ever did that to me I swear to god I'd pirate an ISO of Win10 or switch to Linux. Cheeky pricks.
@@Kx0195 linux is better for gaming already anyway.
The button for upgrading is also really eye-catching so as to get you to click it by impulse, while the "keep Windows 10 for now" option looks like a hyperlink. Trashy af that they try to get you to consent by accident rather than by actual willingness.
Weird. Are people not buying new computers? 75% of new computers come with Win 11.
Many retailers now offer rigs without preinstalled OS.
Do you expect more than 30% of the billions of people who use Windows to have purchased new computers in the last three years?
I got the free upgrade to 10 because I had 7 Home. They refused to reactivate my Office license without buying their stupid subscription bs.
I'm not interested in """upgrading""" to a new system that runs like crap, is super invasive, and is overall a worse system than I have.
Remember folks, "no longer supported" doesn't mean it just stops working. Not for a long, long time.
Remember when Microsoft said that Windows 10 would be the final windows?
I'm suspecting the only real reason they made 11 a separate OS was because even more people would complain if all of these changes were made to 10 in an update.
Windows 10 was my final version of Windows. Tried W11 for 30 days and switched my main PC to Mint Cinnamon.
But at least they were correct about 640k being enough memory for anybody.
The never said that, it’s a myth. You won’t find a single official statement, press release or marketing collateral that says that.
No one actually believed that, I never did. Just like Flight Simulator released in 2020 was not going to be the final Flight Simulator.
11 feels sketchy. They are trying to push more of their corporate stuff without adding anything substantial.
It IS sketchy as it is spyware disguised as an OS.
I'm only using Windows 11 because it is preinstalled on the computer I got. The first few things I did were delete the copilot AI, remap the copilot key to act like a right click, and install some mods to change the start menu into something that is actually user-friendly. In other words, I basically turned it back into windows 10.
People lost all trust in new versions of windows during the swap to 8, then they swapped to 10 to escape 8, but they rather stick to what they're comfortable with instead of take a chance with a potential dud.
there is a reason why windows 10 is called as "the last windows you will ever need".
Because it was a catchy marketing slogan at thr time.
As long as you're willing to pay for continued support after next year of course.
Microsoft never actually said this as an official statement. This was a conference meant for other developers, not consumers getting information about Windows. Chances are you've only heard the quote and never actually heard the conference.
Windows 11 is known malware, so naturally people don't want to install it.
Calling something the last is always stupid or a marking lie
Held on to 7 till I can't anymore, and then switched to 10. Will hang on to 10 till I can't anymore.
7 still works well. Hell, I have two side-by-side PCs. One is XP, one is 7. (This one is 7... the XP can't handle RUclips comment scripting. But it can still play the videos if they're embedded on a simpler site.)
I didn't need a new computer, but I was getting close. Then it was like next month new computers will ship with windows 8, I bought a new computer and left it in the box until I wanted to get to it. I'm still using it, though I did upgrade it to 10 last year when a program with yearly new installs "for security reasons" wouldn't run on 7 anymore.
@@rwill156 Ah, yeah, there's a few like that. Quickbooks is probably the most annoying of them.
I heard that Windows 10 LTSC have longer support than the normal Windows 10. Might be worth looking into.
I'm just gonna switch to Linux when I can't use windows 10 anymore
I just switched to Mac after hating on it for over 20 years. You know you fucked up when your customer does that.
All the advantages of Windows 11:
- New CPU scheduler allows to use E-cores correctly
- Microsoft Edge is faster than ever, because almost the entire UI runs on Webview2 at this point and reuses resources for multiple processes on login.
That's pretty much it. Don't care about E-cores or Edge? No reason to update then.
you forgot one, AUTO-HDR, this one is the best thing about win 11 imo
I run IT for a law firm. We have accreditations that require all software be supported by the vendor. As soon as 10 goes EOL we can't use it. We also use systems that lock us into the Microsoft ecosystem. I'm now in the process of upgrading the machines that will run 11, and replacing the ones that wont. The partners at the firm are not happy that they must spend thousands replacing perfectly good computers.
At that point, you might as well run Linux!
@@cryptic_daemon_ they stated they have hardware that locks them into windows...
How does a law firm deal with windows spying on you? They were set to force "copilot" including them downloading copies of your files even after deleted.
You know there's that other option...
Yep, it do def be like that.
I had win 11 and then upgraded to win 10. Best decision
this
windows 11 straight up bricked my computer. i had to manually flash windows 10 because one of the updates bricked my pc. i couldn't even turn it off, i had to unplug the power supply. i have a relatively beefy computer as well. awful operating system.
I did the same lol
How? I plan to do this? Is license still valid?
@YashGautam4590 look into manually installing windows 10. plenty of good tutorials; you basically get a windows installation iso on a flash drive and install it from there. its a bit more complicated than that, but there are youtube tutorials that go into more detail.
if you have an old installation key, you should be able to use it. otherwise, you can get one for cheap on different websites (i got mine for 20 dollars)
I don’t feel like throwing out software I paid for to buy a bunch of subscriptions I don’t like.
Somethings on windows 11 are slower than windows 10, I curse at my corporate computer everyday.
3 years later we still can't drag-and-drop move the taskbar to secondary monitors like we could for the past 2 decades before that.
Your comment just made me try it, I didn't even know it was possible....
hey... i know it kinda sucks but you can if you instal this microsoft app from their store called "power toys"
Might not be able to drag and drop it, but you can definitely change it's location. Really not that hard to do
but oOOoOoOooOOooOoOOHHHH ittTttTtsSsssS sLlleeEkkk anddd newWWWWew!!!!1!1
@@pawer_themaw Microsoft OSX, is what I call it. It's change for the sake of change, actively removing the ability to fine tune it to my particular use case. I guess they didn't learn anything from Win7's insane popularity... you know, the one that just did its job and stayed out of your way entirely. Man I wish for that again...
you forgot to mention just how much more of your personal data Win 11 wants to collect also.
People use applications, they do not 'use' an OS.
Microsoft puts more and more crap into an OS, while basic functionality contains bugs which are not fixed.
Exactly. But firefox (for instance) also has severe bugs that never gets fixed.
It's the same memory leak that has been there for some 15 years or so.
Microsoft has evolved into an annoying and aggravating company. They act like they own the computer their OS is installed on. We actually pay for the "privilege" to use it--until MS decides you can't. Windows 11 is annoying. I have built my own computers for 20 years so I can have exactly what I want. A year ago my wife asked for a new build for her self. I ordered everything, built it and used a Windows 10 license to activate Windows 11. I was able to bypass the Microsoft account requirement. I find Widows 11 to be a time waster with its menus. More than one click is required to get through the simple right click menu. The TPM requirement to install Win 11 is absurd. As long as a TPM socket is detected on the board the OS will install. TPM itself is not included on most boards. So how many people will actually go to the annoyance to search for a TPM for their board? Yes, a stupid requirement.
I built myself a new desktop a few years ago. I included components to do video and audio recording and editing. I received a free copy of Windows 8 Pro, which didn't impress me and came directly from Microsoft. Then I was able to do the free upgrade to Win 10 Pro and encountered no problems. I am quite satisfied with my build and Win 10. I have NO reason to scrap my rig for a new one just for the "thrill" of using Win 11. When MS discontinues support for Win 10 I won't care one bit. Microsoft's decision to force upgrades to "new" hardware is not eco friendly. Why fill landfills with perfectly usable computers and other electronic devices? I will still be able to use my computer and Win 10. Win 11 will not have any advantages over what I am able to do with Win 10.
Copilot isn't even a Windows 11 exclusive "feature" because it somehow got installed in my Windows 10 install without me consciously giving permission.
same. it installed without my consent just the other night. I promptly uninstalled it.
Delete it immediately and any roots of it.
No one needs that Windows spyware on their system
Yup, I noticed the taskbar icon for Copilot the other day. I thought to myself, "Oh, why hello there. And where the f*ck did *you* come from?" And I promptly uninstalled Copilot.
@@1God1Fury One spyware more, one less, does not make big difference in Windows 10.
@@KH-lg3xc the level of intrusiveness does. Screenshoting your screen every few minutes is red flag, something that hacker or malicious company with 0 respect of user privacy would do. This is huge security and privacy issue for user
10 not getting updates any more will be a feature.
Underrated Comment!
I jumped through a lot of hoops to permanently disable updates from day one on 10. I only update it when I run into something that just won't run on it.
Yeah, no more forced or sneaky background restarts...
Put me down for 100 likes on that!
dont worry they will fuck it up with their"cumulative" updates before abandoning it, you can't be happy lil bro
I switched to Linux maybe 6 months ago and now I've seen windows 10 as the disgusting creature that it actually is. Its no better than 10 and we will never get another 7.
honestly, at this point TPM should just be renamed to "Third-Party Malware" since that's the singe thing the entire software industry seems to be using it as.
If it wasn't for the end of life and lack of support (like DX12), I would still be using Windows 7.
so would i
Yeah the only reason I moved to win 10 was lack of dx12 support (Elden Ring) and newest version of Fusion 360 being buggy with mouse in the first week of lost support (that really feels staged). I need my engineering programs to work unfortunately and my 2TB HDD isn't big enough to dualboot.
Indeed, the end of Win7 support was a big part of what pushed me to Linux.
I was also building a new PC at the time, so it didn't come with an OS preinstalled. So it was a near-perfect opportunity to go all-in on trying a Linux distro. And I figured, worst case, I could get a copy of Windows 10 if it didn't work out. 4½ years so far, and I haven't had to yet. 😎
Same I was using Windows 7 until 2019 when I finally switched over to Windows 10, reluctantly. 11 makes me grateful for what I have now but I'm ditching for Linux once they stop supporting it.
I just recently switched to 10, i finally encountered enough Not Compatible With Your OS/Version Of Windows to reluctantly switch. Its always such a painstaking and lengthy and nerve-wracking experience for me switching or re installing an OS, im never SURE ive gotten everything backed up or saved. Inevitably i end up keeping the data storage device or a clone and parts needed to boot the previous OS just in case😂.
I switched to 7 after using XP long after it was no longer supported for the same reasons. XP is still my fav windows ever. Im disappointed i cant make 10 look like win95 like i always did with xp and 7. Anyway who cares bla bla
-add adverts
-require TPM
-mandatory m$ account
>"Why does nobody want our product?"
Oh, sweetheart... W10 had lots of adverts too
@@CybernerdShuaAre you aware of the antagonistic nature of your comment? Let's be constructive here.
Elaborate.
FWIW, MS account is not really mandatory, you need to jump some hoops to circumvent it, but you can set up Win 11 with a local user account. I've done exactly that, because screw having to login to a remote system all the time.
@@marcingardias9254 I'm aware but if you have to circumvent something then it's anti consumer.
I'm running Windows 11 with no TPM, an unqualified 12-year-old Xeon CPU, no M$ account, and after two years have yet to see an ad... what am I doing wrong??
Microsoft is a company that tries really hard everyday to throw out of the window all Windows history and succesful features for the sake of the "new".
Windows 11 was a great chance to upgrade my gaming machine to Linux Mint.
You missed a chance to say "most people aren't switching because of ads where they don't belong, unlike this relevant one from our sponsor..."
Bang on.
+
I still havent seen any ads on 11.
It's not Ads.
it's ed interest
where people are dropping towards laptop..and since smartphone got in people's hands .they are addicted to touch screen rather using Mouse and keyboard
@@jabezhane me too, haven't seen a single one.
The right click menu is what prevents me from upgrading, having to click show more options all the time is annoying and takes more clicks for no reason.
There's a registry hack. Search for "InprocServer32 context menu".
winaero tweaker can bring back the old full context dropdown
@@4brigger You dont even need to download a third-party application for that. All you have to do is to edit the registry with one line. On the otther hand it would be nice to have a dedicated settings button for that. I bet Microsoft will patch out this solution as well sometime.
@@gergelytolnai7115 But you have to edit the registry, MS could of simply not changed it so noobs don't end up breaking stuff in the registry.
Starting in Windows 11 22H2, Shift + Right-clicking an item will jump you straight into the legacy Context Menu.
The developers of whatever said program need to take advantage of the new Context Menu API call.
Ability to not make taskbar vertical is a deal breaker. Probably some other stuff as well that I'm not even going to consider until it's possible to make taskbar vertical again.
Extra security doesn't mean jack if Microsoft is gives themselves permission to steal your data. It will happen, Microsoft wants to use us to train their AI. And it will not be optional.
The only market share windows 11 has is entirely because it came pre installed and the person who bought it doesn't know how / doesn't care about changing it.
Why would you change it?
@@lenardgor Because Windows 11 doesn't suit every customer's wants/needs as well as Win 10 or other operating systems might!
And companies that are forced for updates or softwares...
as a windows 11 user this is exactly why i use it haha, if i knew how to switch, id do it... but at this point it seems like a lot of effort to go back to windows 10 and 11 works fine enough for me
i do much rather prefer 10 tho
Same McAfee vibes, most notebooks come with W11 home installed because Microsoft just gift a lot of licenses for a ridiculous price; McAfee marketshare is based on Intel basically forcing it to be installed if notebook brands seek a discount.
My mother, who isn't that tech savvy, clicked on a Windows notification that told her to upgrade to Windows 11. She did exactly that, and now her laptop is practically bricked because it doesn't have TPM 2.0. Thanks, Microsoft.
you need to manually flash windows 10. this exact thing happened to me.
Flashing Windows 10 is a relatively easy process as long as you have a bit of patience if you've never done it before. The most difficult part is navigating whatever BIOS the bricked PC is. Other than that, and redownloading all the laptop's proprietary software, it's a pretty straightforward process.
@@thewiseoldfox You realise that about 80% of all people, and especially elderly people have never seen a BIOS screen?
@@Nithalm hence why I say that's the _most difficult part._ That and different laptop manufacturers have different ways to even reach the BIOS. Luckily for everyone, Google is a website that exists
@@Nithalm yes and that's why they're replying to someone that IS tech savvy to help someone that isn't.
I just want to go back to 7. That was the last good Windows OS
Yes, these weird RGB fans by MSI is the reason nobody uses Windows 11, you've convinced me.
TPM 2.0, adverts, useless search, 'A.I.', dumbed down settings and context menus.
I'm sure I've missed a lot of things.
What about the Auto HDR!!!
(They can't even get it right)
Yeah having the full options for various settings and context menus behind another click or two really makes the whole experience rather annoying, and for seemingly no reason. Microsoft says they did it to "simplify" the experience, but who was complaining that using Windows 10 was too complicated?? Windows 11 is MORE complicated because you have to hunt and peck around to actually find what you're looking for.
No quick launch
The extra security features make your hardware run slower
excessive padding in the ui too. making the same mistakes as windows 8, designing it to be touch friendly. everythings so large. the start menu is fucking insanely big. so much white space, i hate it
I feel like the only reason windows 11 is at 30% is because it’s usually pre installed on new computers so the majority of people don’t “downgrade” to windows 10 and just stay with 11
Yep, I wish I knew beforehand. Can't change it now...
@@Smol_PC You can still create a win 10 bootable usb and reinstall win 10.
@laxminarayananks1520 even if I never had Win 10? What about everything on my computer? Would everything be saved?
@@Smol_PC transfer your personal files to an external drive.
@@Smol_PC yep you can just downgrade to 10. Your license is still valid. Your files would be erased tho so i would find a way to backup what you can (just upload things to mega and google drive if you need more space create more accounts) and if you have any usbs or external storage devices use those. However dont put anything on the usb you use for installing windows 10 since it erases everything off of it when creating the installation media.
I'm mostly fine with W11, some things can be tweaked, but what i hate the most and can't be changed: task bar no longer can be made vertical - in the era of widescreen monitors it was really more convenient + more app rows fit that way + when using two displays i had taskbar in between them.
And i would also like to only display the taskbar on the secondary display, not main, so i have to make it primary and then some games launch only on it and it's hard to move them.
Windows 11 is like trying to build a two store house but you just add some planks of wood over the existing 1 floor structure and call it a day. Next you try to convince everyone else it's much better than before.
Using a Linux distro makes my computer feel like it's *my* computer. Microsoft thinks that Windows should be the primary user of the computer instead of me
It’s not just that. They think (and rightfully so in many cases) that you are too stupid to use a computer. Overall, while I do think they do more good than bad by forcing people who would otherwise never update to update and keep their machine secure, I don’t need handholding and don’t want to constantly be guided into sharing analytics or trying edge.
@@Drazil100 For me there was always something broken after updates so at some point I just stopped doing them.
Never had issues with security. You just have to be responsible, not visit scam websites and don't click any links that are obviously gonna fuck you over.
@@Cyan37 And manually patch driver vulnerabilities. Oh wait. You weren't aware of those types, were you?
@@OzixiThrill Condescending right out of the box eh?
Windows 10 was launched in July 2015. It's unthinkable for a Linux user to maintain the basis of a system for 10 years. Most of us switch between long-support versions every 2 years.
I've disabled my TPM chip so that it quits bugging me about Win 11. Change for change's sake is beyond stupid.
Me too. Great minds think alike.
Did the same few months ago.
Same
I did that but it still bugged me anyway, even going as far as to automatically download it without my consent. I had to edit group policy to completely stop it.
i dont know why its not bugging me about windows 11 i use windows 10 it run pretty smooth but my coumputer is a surface go
My last Windows 10 PC kept throwing ads to upgrade to 11 constantly. Between that, the inclusion of even more ads, copilot spying on you, and settings becoming much less configurable, I just gave up on Windows and converted the PC to Linux Mint with Cinnamon desktop. Love it. Not going back.
that 30% adoption rate was forced onto new laptop buyers.
The most ironic part is that if Microsoft didn't stop supporting Windows 7, it'll probably be more popular than Windows 10. Microsoft made a big downturn in the last fifteen years or so and Windows 11 shows it better than anything else.
you must be old...why not try retirement home ? You may find Windows 7 there with XP too
@@prakashm1468 You probably think you are funny or something, but the truth is, Win XP was the first truly stable OS that could support a wide variety of tasks pretty smoothly. You can have work of any flavor that required a computer and be able to do it without trouble on that OS.
Win 7 was the powerhouse, though. It had innovative design from Vista combined with the robust programming of XP, making that OS truly capable, with support of apps from the oldest 8-bit to the new 64-bit and all the related libraries and frameworks in place. It could literally do anything you wanted with it.
Win 10 decided it was to be "light", though, probably following the "mobile" focus Win 8 had, so Microsoft cut off the majority of what made Win 7 so diverse and friendly. It would only run things released in the recent years and would have to get backports for anything older. Ironically, those backports would utilize the unwieldy Windows Update system that exists to this day, which did not solve the problem with Win 10, only made it worse. The core system files would be replaced with placeholders and spread chaotically around the hard drive, spreading security thin and making that system particularly vulnerable to attacks against isolated files.
And now we have Win 10 rebranded as Win 11, and locked out of most hardware, too, in the name of "security" - which as mentioned above is a self-made problem with the entire structure of Win 10. Not that TPM is even remotely capable of solving that self-made problem anyway.
I find it incredibly ironic that if Microsoft decided to continue WIn 7, they would have never lost users who fled to Mac or Linux, increasing their profits. In their pursuit of short-term sales of a new "lean" OS, they tanked their long-term gain from faithful customers.
@@prakashm1468Windows 7 isn't even that old.
I'm 24 and still remember using XP.
@@prakashm1468No need to be so rude here.
windows 7 with a win2k user interface was the last usuable windows. After that all the crap extra unwanted software and privacy breaking came in.
It's an absolute disservice not to mention the privacy concerns, the ever increasing amount of spying the OS does, and the ever diminishing amount of agency the user has over their own hardware with Windows 11. THIS is a big part of the reason people don't want to switch to 11. Not to mention being filled to the brim with ads, with every other update forcing even more ads.
100%. Its so glaringly absent it makes one wonder if they dont want to piss off some income stream over it...
I don't think most PC users know or even care about privacy/agency concerns. normies mostly care about having a system that works, and Win10 does that just fine
@@NotGovernor put your tinfoil hat away and give the koolaid a break.. Windows 10 is JUST as bad as Windows 11 in regards to privacy. If your issue with upgrading is due to privacy concerns, then you better be running an open sourced linux distro otherwise you're fooling yourself.
It's been beyond demoralizing. You spend all this time choosing the right components, building, replacing parts, tweaking and trimming the OS, dialing in your settings... only for Microsoft to take a massive dump all over it.
I'm ready to tap out. Getting ready to go offline on my main PC, and use an Android device for anything sensitive... if it comes to it. Really sucks, but modern games just aren't worth the fight anymore.
The whole taking screenshots of activity monitoring "feature" they added recently (albeit limited devices) was enough to convince me that instead of upgrading to Windows 11, I'll be seriously looking at Linux. I'm a gamer/developer, so I have been reluctant to make the switch.
I've switched to Linux, had no choice since MS removed features that I need from the taskbar. I tried Windows 11 and hated it.
I know why I don’t use it.
5 reasons….
- I don’t trust Microsoft
- I don’t trust Microsoft
- I don’t trust Microsoft
- I almost hate Microsoft
And,…..
- I don’t trust Microsoft
My reason not to switch to Windows 11 is that it breaks with my habit. The context menu is useless, the taskbar is useless, the start menu is useless, the settings are getting more and more complicated and useless. So why change?
Yeah, it feels start menu is downgraded in every possible way for some reason. Task bar is almost tolerable in latest builds though (if you don't need to move to left/top of course)
yeah win 7 to win 10 already made it many more clicks to do the same thing, win 11 continues that tradition, I have zero interest in it and have TPM disabled for obvious reasons.
I ordered a new laptop from HP and because of the shortages back in 2021, it was delayed for months (did not realize that when I ordered it). A week before it shipped, I get an email saying, "We've upgraded you to windows 11 for free." It was not an upgrade. I almost downgraded before I found a bit of software that restored windows 10 context menus and taskbar.
I was hyped when they anounced that windows 11 will be able to run (emulated) Android apps, but sadly they stopped working the project when management realized they couldn't make much profit of an android app store on a windows PC :(
Same
It was the only feature of Windows 11 that had my interest, and they removed it. Well job good done.
Oh man, really? Well, their loss. Already used to having VM's run Android apps and it seems that won't change when I have to switch OS'
It's probably because Google Play Games makes that feature useless
@@SparkingSparks GAMES, not all apps
Personally, I have been using 11 as soon as they released the Beta. I had a driver issue in the very beginning. Once that was corrected it has been the BEST OS I have used on a regular basis.
Windows 11 has been a fantastic advertisement for Linux and OSX
Reasons to ignore Windows 11?
- TPM 2.0
- even more ads in the Start Menu
- even more news in the Start Menu
- even more cloud hrny integration
- even more telemetry
- searching for programs or files is a forced Bing search
- widgets suddenly showing on the lock screen
- unable to manage printers properly
- THE NEED TO HAVE A MS ACCOUNT TO INSTALL IT
oh... and rightclick W F no longer works to create a new folder
never heard of right click W F.
I use Total Commander since I was a kid...
the other stuff you listed is pretty shitty though. microsoft is becoming the worst bloatware
Yeah, it takes a hell of a lot of effort to remove a majority of those problems, I was stuck with windows 11 when buying a new laptop and it took me upwards of 3 days of work to disable so much of the extra garbage. Not to mention you have to do registry edits to fix that right click thing
>not encrypting your files
TPM is just fine and if your PC isn't ancient you should already have it. most of the rest of that you can turn off.
rmb + f works on Linux mint just putting that out there
What's wrong with TPM 2.0? Or are you saying you wish it wasn't required? Though I believe all or most laptops made over the past 5 years has it.
After using Windows 11 for more than 1 yr, I reverted to Windows 10 a month ago. I felt Home.❤
why though?
@@seepranavg 11 was using more memory, became heavy & less responsive and also due to upcoming recall feature.
I went to 10 after using 11. Stayed installed for 3 days and went back to 11. Had way too many issues with graphics drivers uninstalling by themselves and pc not waking up from sleep
I bought a new laptop with 11, so tried it for half a year until I gave up because of all the bugs, so I installed 10 again.
@@NineS5 what lol. gpu drivers uninstalling ?
I was gonna install Windows 11 on my friends Computer. But it kept asking for his email so we said "f it" and installed Windows 10 instead. There is literally no reason to use your account to log in to windows.
I use 11 and it's okay. My games play good, programs run good, and a lot of the bugs have been fixed.
I switched back to Windows 10. Everything in Windows 11 is behind an extra menu and its super frustrating. I used Windows 11 for almost two years, but i just couldn't handle it anymore so I went back to an OS I actually enjoyed using
when I first upgraded to 11 the right-click menu change from 10 was an immediate annoyance, and pushing another button to see more options brings back the old menu.
since this old menu was still there I figured that there was another way around it, and after a short search found command I could run to remove the new bloat.
I was also able to find a solution to the automatic ms-Edge search, from the search menu (if i wanted to find something online I'd already be typing in a browser).
Same, and it also just ran worse.
@@JacobSmith-ts2gq that happened in 10 too, pardon me if im wrong
I've been considering this too.
I switched to linux 2 months ago because I didn't want to switch to 11. Def some issues when you are using an nvidia gpu, but most of those issues got fixed by the latest driver update 555.
hey commentors, - all those of you complaining that W11 is slow and clunky, - it takes TIME to send all that telemetry to the dozens of servers that you are connected to.....
Yet if it was just slow thats alright but the os is unstable and as someone who works in commercial it/av new windows based teams solutions aren’t reliable and they have a plenty of “growing pains” that probably wont go away
You're less wrong than you think. Most of the lag comes down to live searching online, which for some reason isn't a config app toggle, but can still be disabled in the registry for fast and responsive start menuing. Weirdly the PowerToys Mac-style omnisearch bar doesn't lag quite as badly, don't ask me why.
@TheManiac95 major pain in my ass when a brand new system decides to gives me a black screen for a day or 2 because the ai decided to say nope. thats fun explaining that one to consumers who just bought a brand new sys worth round 100k. Dont get me wrong love new innovations and technologies but is this really the direction we want to go in, slap ai on something it sells sure but does it make for a better product in the long term.
it's not just slow and clunky, it's also full of bugs
Lol, I didn't see that swerve coming. Well done.
People just remember that Microsoft promised to make Windows 10 the latest OS with endless updates. That's the reason why they don't update :D
THEY BELIEVE
The Linux community thanks Microsoft for the requirements of Windows 11.
😆😆😆
thank Microsoft, Intel, Google and China for Linux
Hey Linux community, I'm finally coming over once 10 is done. Mint is much too easy and nice now for me to struggle and debase myself for microsoft any more.
I'll thank the Linux community when they have proper audio recording software/drivers. I can use Linux, first time I installed SuSE (it was still free, before openSuSE) I was like 15, I definitely can and usually do install it now... But I don't want to switch OS every single time I want to do something, so I'm sticking with Windows and using the terminal stuff to tune it up instead of using the terminal stuff for Linux. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to run a system with Plasma DE, I don't think ANYTHING looks better than that. However, while you can work most stuff on Linux these days, there are some specifics I use, like audio, as I said, and negative scanning that just don't run well. And games are getting there, but it's gonna be a while 'til Proton can handle it all. I do wish to say one day I'm joining the Linux community... So I do hope you guys start making drivers for these specific stuff. Sure, it's open source, I could learn to make the drivers myself... But I most definitely won't. Some things are worth the fiddling around... And some others I just wanna plug, play (the guitar or whatever I'm playing, and yes) and hit record. Half the features of my working stuff don't work on Linux. Maybe in 10 years they will.
@@nevermind4328 No one cares dude, seriously
The largest reason I will never switch is the pop up ad to learn more about windows 11 after a security update followed by "your pc is not eligible for windows 11" why is my 2000 dollar pc not eligible for windows 11 and why am I getting ads for it on a device that can't install it?
they want you to buy another device
Have you ever updated your motherboard's BIOS?
That was the reason why my PC was unsuitable, I still didn't install win11.
change your boot drive from MBR to GPT and update your bios.
Check UEFI settings is TPM is on. In some cases it defaults to “off”, which prevents 11 inatalling
@@KonevToo bad Microsoft never writes anywhere in PC Health Check that they’ve have a built in tool to do that without deleting your boot drive.
It's trying to push a bunch of garbage features/background programs that nobody's asking for, and in some cases, is precisely what people are AVOIDING ON PURPOSE
saying that nobody is using windows 11 is like saying that nobody is using new iphone.
nice clickbait
My PC will run everything I need even the latest games. But it can't run Windows 11. So Windows 11 is a $1500 upgrade. WTF
Same, i7-7700k just apparently does not cut it..
Same here. Mine is a Core i5-4460 8 years old, and still blitzes through all applications. Fortunately, Win 11 doesn't like it - otherwise I would have charged blindly ahead and done the downgrade from Win 10. The lack of facilities in Win 11 (no custom taskbar link to the Quick Launch folder from the Windows taskbar) make it a non-starter for me. Unbelievably, the Quick Launch folder still exists in Win 11, but there's no convenient place to deposit a link to it.
@@brianvogt8125 Same here. Win 10 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X. I just can't see the need to 'upgrade'. My PC runs everything, even my video editing software, at a speed that does me. It says mine is lacking TPM, which is strange as it is enabled in the BIOS. But no sweat. I've already started using Mint and if MS nuke Win10, well I shall just say goodbye to Windows as a first boot. After all, the PC is the only place I use Windows. The rest, phones, tablets run on Android and IOS. I see that Huawei are heading to bring out a PC based OS. Who knows what the future brings.
I’m running an i7 4790 for every day computer needs and it runs fine with windows 10. I just installed windows 11 on a spare ssd, got around the cpu check but creating a custom image using Rufus, was really easy to do. It runs fine, it runs as well as it was when running windows 10.
@@bertiesworld MS will never nuke Win 10. The security updates will simply stop coming. Don't do dumb stuff, and you'll be ok. I'm still (rarely) using an old PC with XP to run an old HP scanner, because HP refused to issue software drivers for newer Windows. XP still runs like it always did; MS 365 is incompatible, so stick with Office 2003 or 2010. Laptop with Win7 still runs ok - reverted to original after modern editions of Win 10 became so bloated that it was at a standstill.
Picky point: IOS is a 1980s-present Cisco operating system in their routers & switches (corporate grade networking). iOS (lowercase i) is the iPhone system since 2007. Very important trademark distinction.
Each time a corporation does aynthing for "security" it's not your security.
My laptop has Windows 11. It works. I have no trouble using it overall since I mostly use 3rd-party applications. I like the UI standardization work done so far. I hate Show More Options on the Desktop. If I want to use 7-Zip, the Nvidia control panel, or the Radeon Control Panel, I have to hit Show More Options. I hate the forced bottom taskbar; I like left-hand taskbar.
The laptop has a Ryzen 5 5000 series CPU and an RTX 3060 GPU, so it'll have more GPU power than many Intel CPUs without a discreet GPU especially. The laptop has both a Radeon Integrated and a GeForce Discreet, and it's been a pretty good combo surprisingly. It's fun to see the two control panels side-by-side, especially how old Nvidia's looks. Okay. I was able to hide the search bar and Copilot icon. The task bar feels like it has a ton of room now. Task View is actually kind-of nice, so it stays, but it was in Windows 10 as well. The snap is a cool idea, but man do I fight it. If there was a way I could disable it, it would be nicer. There's also smart features that I had to tweak.
One huge reason my desktop still has Windows 10, the TPM requirement actually requires my main storage drive to be done in a certain way. I do not feel like messing with the partition type on the main SSD. The CPU on the desktop is a Ryzen 5000 and has all other requirements.
Everyone who buys a new PC is using Windows 11. This video is BS...
My boss is a contract engineer for NASA. He bought a brand new Alienware laptop to be able to get work done. He opened it up, saw Windows 11 on it, and squinted in disgust.
I went to grab a coffee in the breakroom. When I returned to his office, he was already installing Windows 10 on it.
But the ui of windows 10 is just... terrible
@@Greedy-Allay Dunno. I like it far better than Windows 11's. As for the start menu, I use Startisback which gives it the same layout and behavior as Windows 7's start menu.
based and windows 10 pilled
@@Greedy-Allay ui windows 11 looks awful that taskbar looks like it was crafted by apple or some bs
@@Greedy-Allay it's not as good as 7 but better than 11 or 8
I'm giving strong considerations into switching to Linux.
I’m trying now. If you just want to use a browser it is great. Otherwise be ready to do a lot of sleuthing online and typing obscure commands into the terminal. Also, if you sync your iPhone with your computer don’t bother. I haven’t found a reasonable way to do it yet.
Same, I'd rather deal with the issues with Linux over going to Windows 11.
If you have a spare ssd you can already try dualbooting to get used to it.
Do it, if you want a Windows like experience out of the box go with Linux Mint
@@Fredjikrang I mostly use my PC for gaming. I'm worried thst it won't be able to run games like FFXIV and BG3
Windows 10 is bad enough. I'm going to Linux. I'm tired of Microsoft thinking my computer belongs to them.
Watching in a windows 7 laptop right now
If I could get security updates for Windows 7 I never would have "upgraded" to 10.
Now I put up with Linux instead.
There are paid versions of updates for 7 and there will be for 10...
There are literally dozens of people like you.
@@pieterrossouw8596 erhm...millions .
No you can, just update the update thingy, Windows 64-bit is Windows 64-bit, so most of the security updates for Windows10/11 are functional on Windows7.
The last update I received was 8 days ago
if I put a link it will probably be deleted, but you just have to type in Google "update Windows 7 update agent" and it's among the first results on the "learn Microsoft" website.
I would have never upgraded from 7 to 10 if a ton of nice software wasn't dropping the compatibility with 7.
Windows 11 was the final push to get me to install a Linux Desktop, the AI bullshit was too much for me. Even worse, they re-introducing shitty visual updates that makes you search more and more until you find the Windows 7 UI that actually does what you wants. The OS just got progressively worse since Windows 7.
Same here. I looked at Popos but settled on Mint for the more familiar UI. Still praying for SteamOS, though.
I switched before the AI bullshit, but it was more of a "got out of there just in time" thing. I just find it strange they are shut down windows 7, 8.1, and now in the process of shutting down Windows 10 in less than 5 years into Windows 11's lifespan. Forget hardware requirements, forcing the whole user base to update to a single version is very weird.
Yeah Windows 7 was perfect and I always felt very happy to be using it. So much so that I didn't move to Windows 10 for 2-3 years after it was launched. I too have been looking at Linux. (I don't want AI anything.)
Same here, went with Mint.
Sorry to say but AI it the way of the future its coming and going to be integrated into everything whether you like it or not. You can scream all you want about it but that's going to change nothing and waste your time. I just don't understand why people fight so hard against progress it coming there's NOTHING you can do about it, unless you have billions of dollars to fight against it because that's what it would take.
How is 30% of all PC's 'no one'?
Honestly the reason is because it came out too quick after Windows 10. 3 years ago I was still running Windows 8, and I only swapped to 10 when I got a new PC. I'll be on Windows 10 until it dies and I need a new PC, which will then have the current OS. I feel like that's how most people go about it since there is very little incentive for non-techies to upgrade ever.
Mandatory "make your computer not trust you" chip.
Yeah, definitely needed for "security" not for "corporate money squeezing".
I have my problems with win10, but win11 is a joke. In addition to your points, to properly set up the OS you basically have get rufus to install it with edited registries. I don't want to use a microsoft account, I don't want to set dumbass security questions, or stare at a screen for ten minutes while a condecending text box tells me its almost ready.
I don't want ads in my desktop or basic applications, I don'f want copilot to exist at all, and that recall bullshit they were talking about a while ago is absolutely fucking unacceptable. Not only does it take screenshots of whatever you're doing, it can't even bother to properly secure the data its collecting.
And what does it offer that win10 doesn't anyway? A slightly uglier UI? Notepad now has tabs and darkmode? They moved all the system tools and menus again? Still locking baisc features like RDP behind the pro edition? What incredible innovation. Fantastic. Truly amazing for the flagship product of one of the most powerful companies in the world.
With some third party software, you can make windows 11 into Windows 10, including getting bak the old notepad if you want. The old Windows 10 context menus and taskbar are still in the operating system code, all that's missing are the system icons which are easily downloaded by the program I use ot make windows 11 useable.
@@Seomus Honestly, with third-party software you can actually dramatically improve upon the UI experience in Windows 11. Shouldn't need to use third-party applications to achieve this level of customizability in this operating system, however. I actually don't have any regrets from going to 11, but I absolutely can see where this sort of experience would leave the vast majority of users displeased. Possibly even confused. Microsoft can do better and they must.
The problem i had with windows 10 is the dumb watermark you get if you dont have a legit copy or your like me and transferring windows 10 from another machine. Other than that, i havent had any real complaints. It depends on how you use the OS, like i switched from using the start menu to using windows explorer and desktop icons activate programs or start audiobooks.
@@Seomus They're there NOW, yes. But will they be after the next big update?
"Why No One Is Using Windows 11"? A better question would be "Why would anyone WANT to use Windows 11?"
Why would people want a bigger and slower OS that doesn't bring anything to the table to justify burning the extra watts and time? If Microsoft wants people to want to switch, they need to release something light weight that actually has benefits. Perhaps re-release a security patched Windows XP. No news. No Ads. No new tracking. Stop screwing with the start menu and control panel. Just give us an operating system that allows us to run the software we want. Wait.... what's the point of an operating system again? How did we stray so far from the path?
Preach Brother!
but the ads, where would the ads be....
Return the start menu to the corner. Remove bing results when searching for something. Remove all ads and bloatware. Reduce system requirements so average Joe can run Windows 11.
because we can cope with the 21st century and dont get ads
@@cristianoreddevil9736 The one thing they would need to do is optimize it to run on crap.
The fact that Windows 11 isn't much different from Windows 10 from a GUI perspective is a definite plus. I was upgraded to 11 and I expected to reconfigure a new machine. No such hassle. It was painless continuation of work.
Lack of backwards compatibility with older hardware was obviously a big issue, people don't buy new computers as often as they did in the past. The beauty of Windows 10 was it would pretty much run on anything.
Microsoft said that win10 would be the last, then made win11 and made it compatible with PCs with hardware bought in the last 5 years. No wonder the world hasn't adapted yet. Most people, at least outside the US keep their PCs for more than 5 years.
They never said that it would be the last. Why do people keep on spouting this rubbish, which can easily he disproved with a quick search? Some employee said it, and was referring to a subscription model, and it was never policy
@user-lx5do4zc6n actually, no. when jerry nixon (a *microsoft developer*) said that windows 10 would be the last version of windows, microsoft ended up standing by what he said, or atleast did not say that he was wrong. in a statement to network world, official microsoft spokesperson said this,
"Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers. We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”
they did not specify that it was one developer, or even disagree. they even said that theyd keep it up to date! you'd think they'd correct it or tag that as a misunderstanding, but nope!
you can even go on forums and see the question of windows 10 being the last software and being answered by actual people who work at microsoft saying that its the last version.
when the rumors came out about windows 11, people genuinely believed that it was a hoax. you can even go onto the forums and see that everyone thought windows 10 was the last version. id link stuff but my comment would get removed, so youre gonna have to dig for yourself unfortunately.
my last pc before upgrade was 12 years ago and that was using from window 7 to 10
@@user-lx5do4zc6n Exactly that. Even I do remember they originally meant you only have to "buy windows once" since win 10.
How can these people to believe that if it's even possible for win 10 to be the last windows? If it's really the case it will only be a naming issue anyway, as with constant updates the system will become less recognizable compared to the first version, eventually.
@@tapist3482 they didn't even mean that, it was never intended to be anything like that, there was always planned and there will be more versions of Windows to come. It would be impossible to just have 1 version and constantly update it, at some point, the very foundations of the system become obsolete or these parts need so much constant fixing, that it is no longer cost effective