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1988 10 12 1988 NLCS Game 7 New York Mets at Los Angeles Dodgers
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I was 14 in 1988. A freshman in High School in Central California, surrounded by A's and Giants fans. This was a magical time.
I was 8, living outside of San Francisco. This year was so sweet.
Fresno, California
Chico, Ca.
I was 10 and a native New Yorker.Davey Johnson not pulling Gooden after the Shelby walk in Game 4's ninth inning served pivotal.😢
@@user-uf3rh8kf9s I look back and I still can't explain it but The Dodgers going all the way that year seemed pre-determined. Everything worked out for them against all odds.
I was in 5th grade in Santa Barbara, CA and a huge Mets fan...because Gary Carter was my idol. The kids I went to school were all die hard Dodger fans. We would play kickball at lunch pretending we were playing these games. I was crushed that the Mets got beat here. They were the better team all season, but when a team gets hot the way the Dodgers did, there is no way to stop them.
Dodgers were better
Great classic game. Me being a big NY Mets fan was very disappointed that we did not win the World Series in 1988. Orel Hershiser was hot done the stretch and was awesome against the Mets and As. It is over 32 years later and I still cannot believe we lost to the Dodgers in the NLCS. It shows how difficult it is to win a championship (we still have 86). I only have admiration for Orel Hershiser. Keep them classics coming.
oral much?
thank you, thank you, great moments, Hershiser was the hero in this postseason!
cmchipocludo92 he certainly was, but in the World Series, though he won two games, he wasn’t as dominating as he had been earlier and even he has suggested that perhaps the World Series MVP could have been awarded to Mickey Hatcher, who was Gibson’s replacement and was the team’s spark plug and top run producer for the World Series. In fact, little remembered tidbit-Gibson’s moment in the sun of hobbled Hobbesian Heroics in Game 1 wouldn’t have been possible without Hatcher’s two-run homer in the first inning.
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The sound quality on this video is ahead of its time. I hooked it up to my TV the other day, and it looks and sounds great.. thank you man for the memories
Always trips me out to see Gibson shaking hands with Valenzuela. Who would have thought what was to happen 3 days later. The is the team that made me fall in love with Baseball.
As a Dodger fan living in the NY area in 1988, this was soooo satisfying. Especially hearing the announcers who sound like Mets partisans desperately conjuring up hopeful scenarios in the early innings, speculating about Hershiser's weaknesses, or how the difference in Johnson's strategies might require the Mets to score 3 runs to win instead of 2. And in hindsight, you can sit back and smugly say to yourself, "Nope, still not enough".
This game was the end of the 80's Mets. In 1989 they won 87 games and finished 2nd but they were no real threat to win the division because they struggled during most of the year. In 1990 they finished 2nd again and won 91 games but they struggled at the beginning of the year and wound up not being able to overcome the Pirates despite rebounding later in the year. I firmly believe if the Mets had overcome LA they would have beaten Oakland just like the Dodgers did. After 1990 Strawberry left for LA and that was pretty much it for the Mets of that era. They should have been a dynasty but it did not work out for them.
Nah…..they got garbage lucky in 86…..and in 85 and 87 there’s no way the Cardinals were better. The got lucky in 86 and in 85, 87, & 88 they were beat out by inferior teams…..that’s not the mark of a dynasty.
@@thefrase7884 Agreed. They had the talent to do more.
@@thfzn3130 game 4 scoissia home run ended them
aww
The cocaine did them in..
I was 11 at the time. A few days after this game, I attended Game 1 of the 1988 World Series on October 15, 1988.
That season the Mets beat the Dodgers 10 out of 11, but I recall McCarver said before the series that he felt the Dodgers had a good chance because their pitching was as good , and he also felt the Mets made too many outs in the air and relied too much on the long ball. Boy was he right.
Only once in 7 years of being in contention did the Mets not fold when challenged. That was 1986. Every other year, in either the regular season or playoffs they folded like a bunch of pretentious party boys.
@@user-wj8ui1lw8b they were good enough to be good, but too often not good enough to be great.
@@dzanier Yup. Just think, if either Houston or Boston had beaten them in '86 they'd be regarded as one of if not the biggest bust team ever for not achieving what it looked like they could. In retrospect, former Orioles Davey Johnson and Frank Cashen were trying to win with an AL, Orioles style team in the NL
As a die-hard Mets fan,this marked the "Waterloo" of Mets 1980's contention!
That was a long, eternal wait until 1999 when they clinched their next postseason berth. Definitely the most painful loss in my 35+ years of Mets fandom.
it was all Davey johnsons fault for not bringing in Randy myers to pitch to mike sciosa in game 4
Davey johnson just handed over the pennant to the dodgers
I watched every game in this series and it's a myth that Orel was the winning factor. He started games 1 and 3 and the Mets won both games. What cost the Mets this series was their starting pitching. Cone was lousy in game 2, and Fernandez was lousy in game 5. And yes, Davey Johnson made a huge error in game 4 when he didn't bring in Myers to pitch to Soscia. Gooden had pitched great but the correct move was to bring in lefty Myers to face lefty Soscia.
Orel did come out of the pen to save game 4, but you're not wrong otherwise at all. Game 4 changed everything, but this was also just a back and forth series all week long. Nothing against Fernandez, but not having Ojeda for this series really proved a key point. He would have started game 5 and likely pitched a lot better than Sid did (i'm a Sid Fernandez fan but it's the truth).
2:18:41 Besides Gibson's HR, no time has Dodger Stadium been louder than this.
I Don't know in 2021. Cody's Homerun vs the Braves in Dodgers Stadium was pretty close! In 2020 Kike hitting a tieing Home Run if that was at the Stadium. That place would have been so loud! Then the Bomb Cody hit in 2020 if that was in Los Angeles the place would have gone crazy! Let not for get about that Mookie Betts homerun! Dude he made it 3 to 1 or Tampa!
Game. 4. Pissed this series away.
aww
Absolutely! If Gooden does not give up that homer, the Mets win the series, likely in 5. I was stationed in Italy at the time (Air Force) and it was the biggest disappointment I've had as a Mets fan (there have been many, unfortunately). And it was the biggest because they really had a team that should have at least gone to the World Series.
I remember being in shock that The Mets actually scored runs off of Hershiser in this series. He seemed like he had a cheat code..
The Dodgers basically singled the Mets and Athletics to death. Between Sax and Hatcher, this team knew how to find holes in the infield. They did hit for power with Gibson and Marshall, but they were mostly a singles team. Mets fielding errors in the 2nd inning did them in. Griffin gets a bunt that should have been caught. With the bases loaded and Hershiser up, Jeffries drops the ball and doesn't get an out. Then they fail to get an out when Marhsall grounds to the 2nd baseman with a bad throw to 2nd.
Jeffries 😂 what a joke he was.. hyped up by the media.
I was 5 years old when this happened, and this series are my earliest baseball memories. Still bleed Dodger blue all these years later
I was torn between two loves lol if you will
My first baseball memory was also at 5 (1974 A's Dodgers WS).
Its always sad to see Fernando shaking Gibsons hand Fernando was injured couldn't play in games in 1988
I recall in that 30 for 30 documentary on Fernando, him saying that even though his team won the World Series that year, 1988 was still one of the worst years of his life. Not only was he injured for the first time in his career, but his father died.
The screwball does a number on your elbow. It's a credit to him that he didn't get injured sooner.
Fernando pitched 142 innings in 1988, but none in the playoffs or World Series
1988 All Star
1988 World Series champion
World Series MVP
1988 Nl Cy Young Award
1988 Gold Glove
1988 Nl leader in Wins
Drug Rehabs or not... Mets had no chance in a game 7 against Hershiser!
Still a magical year for Mets Fans.
Plus 1988 NLCS MVP
59 straight scoreless
he didn't lead the league in win I believe it was Jackson from the reds
@@joedaddy13both won 23 games in 88.
This series still bugs me lol. I was 22 at the time and the Mets were on their way to a dream matchup with Oakland. Well, the gritty dodgers messed it up. And Orel Hershiser was awesome 🤦🏿♂️. Those losses in games 4 and 5 did them in because they had to play catch-up and face Orel again in game 7
If the Mets had Bobby Ojeda in either game 4 or 5, the Mets would have won the series. Ojeda cut his finger cutting bushes in his yard.
Hershiser just put the team in his back the whole season and post season.
@@timbrown5576 I agree
It was the 9th inning of game 4 that did the Mets in.
awww
Thanks for the memories!
My unofficial pitch count on Hershiser: 131!
I remember that year when the Dodgers won the pennant I was a teenager
Gonzalez catch was fire
This is why Ron Darling acts butthurt in the booth every October
darling? aww
Certain things are repeated with a team being the giver and recipient. The 1988 Mets were heavily favored to win the NLCS and were upset by the Dodgers, a decade before, the Cincinnati Reds were the favorite in the 1973 NLCS.. as a Mets fan, that was my first thought. The Mets won 10 out of 11 games over the Dodgers during the 1988 season.. They were trying to get back to the WS after winning in '86 and missing the playoffs in '87. The Dodgers were destined to win.. there's no guarantee in sports only Vegas gets to win😂
Saxy really was the spark on this team wasn't he? Gibby was the slow burn that kept it going.
42:40 that's an amazing camera shot! How often do we see the pitch, hit, and play at the plate like that?
I was a big Mets fan but also a big Dodgers fan (I wanted to be different I guess) so it was a win-win but I really liked the mets more and it's unfortunate Orel was on or who knows what would have happened.
Iron arm, the great bulldog Orel Hersisher
It caught up to him a few years later having major shoulder surgery
Hernandez with a really costly blunder on that bunt in the 2nd inning.
too much coke. or too much arrogance
46:17 was, I think, the final aggravation of Gibson's knee injury that sidelined him for the World Series (with the one notable, dramatic exception, of course!) He was hobbled even before this, but that slide is where he actually suffered ligament damage and rendered himself basically unable to play.
And yet he still made such a HUGE impact on the World Series in just one AB.
Left Hamstring, not knee.
@@ACEDIAMOND666 it was both. The left hamstring injury was aggravated on a steal of second in the 9th inning of Game 5. This slide messed up his right knee which was the final straw keeping him from starting in the World Series
Only complaint about this video is the picture to sound delay
There is nothing like that LA crowd when they are really fired up
The end of the Mets' relevance for another decade.
New York nightmare....although in fairness....the Mets really lost the series in Game 4 in the 9th inning when Davey did not put in Randy Myers for Gooden
TOTALLY AGREE! Randy Myers was so good that season...
goodein? not good.punk. loser thug...scum.1 hit wonder...
If Bob Ojeda doesn’t get injured, I believe the Mets win this series.
HoJo, you gotta swing at that pitch right down the middle son
what a glorious beatdown
Why start the game with darling if youre gona put in relief Doc..
Ron Darling got rocked in this game. i wonder if he had lingering PTSD from being hazed as a rookie 🐈
Please don't forget that Orel was a San Francisco Giant at one time.
Orel Hershiser pitched for the S.F. Giants during the '98 season and had an 11 and 10 record.
BASEBALL was real fun play by real players not WIMPS
Mike Marshall looks like Chris Taylor
The audio needs to be fixed. It's a second too fast for the picture.
Why would you put Carter in the 7th spot on offense?
Orel basically won the series by himself 😂
He really didn't. The Mets won 2 of the 3 games he started. Yeah, he dominated game 7 but this was a long, great series with a lot of heroes and goats.
Hershiser lost game 1 in the 9th inning and lost game 3 also before saving game 4. So that's 1 win, 2 losses, and a save. Belcher had a better series winning games 2 and 5 but people don't talk about him as much.
Jefferies error huge mistake
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And I Remember 🤔 Thinking 🤔 That "I Hope That He Will Be Okay!"
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Great series but game# 7 mets had no chance when they saw BULLDOG step on the mound...The end of the Mets......
I can’t watch this
awwwww
Worst day of my life as a met fan
stupid Davey johnson for not letting randy myers to pitch to mike sciosa in game 4
How was the Dodgers so dominating but 2 years earlier a much better Astros team lost to the same lineup
NOPE!!! Kevin Elster, Gregg Jefferies, and Kevin Mc Reynolds were not members of the '86 World Series winners.
@@clyde9990 agree.mets were bums.shoulda lost to the great astros pitching staff.never shoulda 'won' the world series' (which they diddnt) buckner and ghetto can boyd lost the series.....oil can biggg mouthed ghetto douche and mop haired buckner lost the series....the pukers, the mets just survived the dumb aresed stupidity of the red SUXX, and loooosers, like oil can, boy'd...and mop haired bill fuckner.....oops.....
Lost to double nickel
This Mets team should have won at least 3 WS
Relic Radiation Which years?
Jose Carranza 2015
The Mets keep Tom Seaver for the 1984 and 1985 seasons, and they probably win the division in one or both of those years...
@@michaelbanaszak7775 It was the pitching depth that cost the Mets in those years. In 1984, Doug Sisk imploded in that August series in Wrigley Field and after dealing Walt Terrell for Howard Johnson, the Mets' starting pitching wasn't so deep after Gooden and Darling.
The Athletics could have also won 3 from 1988 to 1990, but only won one.
So Many Pitches the Mets Couldve Hit
The dry note globally delight because soda secondarily suit beyond a amuck birthday. fresh, fantastic hat
Alster looks like greinke and bats like him
Man John Shelby was the Cody Bellinger of that year! Al Michael and that other guy going hard for the M E T S! M E T S! Mets Mets Mets! 😂 Dodgers this year just need to get out there and take care of business
I remember a 7 year old me very upset after this game
I was 12 and I went into a closet and cried afterwards.
I turned 11 on November 19!
aww....
A Mets disaster from the get go. Not one redeeming thing for a Met fan in this game.
Yup, they definitely were outplayed by an inferior team in this series. And the Dodgers pulled together to beat a more talented team. A credit to Lasorda, Hershiser, Gibson, and the many role players who never stopped believing they could be one of the most unlikely teams to win a pennant and WS that year, as we know what happened next vs the A's...
At least we won the east. We've had some good years and there are plenty more to come! Lgm!
The Mets were overly confident.
Basically the Dodgers won it all because Hershiser was hot.
Cone’s dud in Game 2 and Game 4 Gooden giving up Scosia homerun in the 9th did the Mets in.
Go Dodgers!!!
Ron Darling starting any game 7 is a mistake. Davey Johnson cost the Mets in this series. Cone shouldn't have been writing any articles and Socia shouldn't have been hitting against Doc.
andrew seed It’s easy to second guess after it happens.
Davey didn’t lose the series, the Dodgers beat the Mets.
Jose Canseco said it best after the series, " The Dodgers just had everything working for them." They had great pitching but were a very weak hitting team. They didn't hit a lot of balls hard; they just found the holes. They moved runners over and got them in by making contact. When the Mets or A's made mistakes the Dodgers cashed them in.
bbigjohnson069 Dodgers actually did hit the baseball hard many times. You should watch the World Series highlights video.
Lenny Dykstra said the same thing in his book, that Davey Johnson should've gone with Dwight Gooden. According to Dykstra, it wasn't anything personal about Ron Darling, he just believed that since Gooden was the Mets' ace, you're supposed to go with who brought you to the dance. And presumably, Gooden was the Mets' best shot against a guy like Orel Hershiser, who was virtually unhittable in 1988.
@@TMC1982Part2 also depends on home field advantage. By today’s rules, of course, the Mets would have had home field advantage since they had the better regular season record, but back then it was just alternating between East and West divisions to determine that. Had the Mets had home field advantage, Darling would have been a better choice, you heard the stats that he was 11-1 at home, 6-8 on the road. Though yes, I’m guessing he also had some Game 7 demons from two years earlier, when he didn’t pitch well in Game 7 of the World Series either, though his teammates got him off the hook in that one. Couldn’t do it this time against Bulldog.