2020 Nissan 370Z Nismo 6-Speed Manual - POV Review
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- 3.7 L V6 with 350 hp and 276 lb-ft of torque
Curb weight: 3,457 to 3,486 lbs
MPG: Up to 19 city / 26 highway
MSRP: From $45,790
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0:00-4:15 Intro & Walkaround
4:15-13:18 Driving Impressions
13:18-16:46 Bose Audio Test
16:46-18:52 Final Thoughts
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finally a review that doesn't immediately complain about how old the car is !!! Getting these second hand for cheap makes these cars a gem
You get them cheap second hand for a reason. Save your money tbh
Those reviews are true. The car is over a decade old. It’s a nice car, but it’s well over do for a redesign.
lol if they stopped making this car, people be like Bring it back amg old cars were the best!
@@neilthomsen1810 lol dude what? This thing is in desperate need of power and new styling.
5K.RIDO you can get them cheap second hand because they’re old. And so what? They’re not unreliable, and getting one for under $20k is quite a deal imo. More HP than the 86 cars or the Miata and roughly in the same price bracket.
It's amazing that the direction sports cars have gone is so bad in the last 10 years that Nissan's utter neglect of this car has actually worked out to it's advantage.
Disagree, Nissan is in the dumpster right now and the 370Z needs a refresh
@@MacroEnabled disagree , modern cars and their stupid safety nannies , like blind spot monitoring , automated braking , auto parking , wait until all those stupid things go bad , they'll cost a shit ton to repair
400z is coming soon
@@93mlo no need to repair, just trade it in for a new one.
@@Hboogie182 trade it in , is why people in this country are broke living paycheck to paycheck , and bitching they can't afford a house or condos. The stupid keeping up with the Jones mentality will keep citizens in this country broke
I own this exact car, same color and it puts a huge smile on my face every single time i get behind the wheel. Nothing else matters.
I'm planning to get one, how difficult is the clutch?
@@manveerghuman5276 2018 and newer have an improved Exedy clutch which is much smoother and easier. If you get a pre 2018, you can easily change the clutch spring for very cheap which improves the feel quite a bit.
@@G.G.001 thank you, I have lots of other questions. I already read about the exedy clutch but didn't know the spring change makes a difference! It's still going to be my first manual car.
@@G.G.001 btw I can't understate how beautiful this car is in real life, so much longer and almost looks like a supercar
@@manveerghuman5276 I've owned many different sports cars and never got so many thumbs up as with this Nismo. It truly is a beautiful car.
Old af but still a great car. I mean how many rwd manual n/a v6’s exist anymore? Truly a dying breed.
Not old......classic! Do we change the Big Mac? The double double?
old af? its a 2020
the gencoupes
stackholm he’s saying old because nothing much changed since 2009
All I can say is, if you saved up and got yourself a car like this or heck, any car you love, then props to you! And the car enthusiasts like you and I are happier that the spirit is there and manuals survive. There's no haters here.....one love.
Everyone: I wish they still made a quick sports car with a manual, rear wheel drive and not too much tech.
Nissan: 370Z
Everyone: Eww its tech is too old
Nissan: SMH
Scott W. Even if they put the BRZ infotainment in here it’d be fine, it needs apple CarPlay, and android auto and no one will complain anymore.
It's more of a price issue in my opinion
@@KayvonGz you don't use those stuff if u r really a purist looking for a basic sports car
Nissan only sold 3k of these last year, no one is buying sports cars anymore
Kuma Bear my point exactly, that is a niche market and the exact reason why it doesn’t sell.
I daily drive my Nismo. I could careless what anyone says. It's breaks necks everywhere I go and it's super fun to drive. All the hate is coming from guys who don't even own a car or have never even driven a Z. The Car is perfect.
Preach it!
how is reliabilty on it? Im considering to daily a Z too
@@BruhMoment-bp2wj Very reliable. Mines had zero problems from the get.
No car is perfect except perhaps the new GT3
@@fzr1000981u ever owned a gt3 or a 370z?
I rather have a totally muted exhaust than artificially pumped in audio.
First thing ima do when i get this car is get rid of that 😂
Yezzir, yezzir. If I wanted fake exhaust sounds, I whip out muh crappy Xbox with Forza
it can be disabled at a dealership but my goodness it sounds like shit
Tesla
I might be biased as a Z owner but I still think these are some of the best looking cars stock, and they also look great with minimal mods. It's just slightly disappointing to see minimal refreshes over the years. However, it is also kinda nice because for the most part there are around 12 yrs worth of parts and knowledge to help you build your Z.
The reverse camera in the mirror is because the “cheap” versions don’t get a touch screen they get those old orange displays.
370Z is luckily being retired this year and an all new model will replace it.
@@BoopSnoot idk we'll see if it's "luckily" or not
@@BoopSnoot "Luckily"? Are you a moron? Making this modern will absolutely destroy everything that makes it good.
Nothing 'cheap' with the way this looks! Keep it simple and pure.
Vipermoon imagine if the new replacement has a CVT transmission since Nissan puts it in almost all of their cars😂😂
This is one of the last purest naturally aspirated V6 old school good vehicle. Nice job nissan.
Yeah nice job Nissan for making it sound like shit!
It's basically a 17 year old chassis and engine.
Are you serious home boy
The neglect sure came to it advantage. Nissan had no intention doing a good job
@@kylechellino2579 A lot of people love the sounds of them, I quite like it as well tbh
Infotainment enthusiasts are killing cars for driving enthusiasts.
Analog is totally passé. Until everything on the inside is made up of MicroLEDs, these cars are totally not worth buying. Hopefully, the whole company goes under.
It's really sad. If everything isn't a crisp screen to pacify them, they whine and complain.
The problem isn’t the tech, it’s the car itself. This car has been the same damn car for 11 years. Literally no innovation whatsoever.
@@gtmike916 That's part of what makes it so great. It's from a time when people actually where involved in driving. It still has a manual transmission, hydraulic steering assist, a naturally aspirated engine.... Hell, it even has a manual parking brake! A lot of these things don't even exist on certain cars anymore. Is this car old? Yes. Could it be made better? Maybe. Could it be ruined by "innovation" and modern trends? Very likely.
@@gtmike916 Cars where better to drive 11 years ago, so that's actually a positive.
Seriously, it's not even like this car was once amazing. 11 years ago, there were better cars than this, but being a survivor from a generation past makes it more of a driver's car than 99% of cars currently for sale.
I just bought one of these Friday and I’ll be picking it up tomorrow! This video just made my excitement level go through the roof, that final audio test had me vibing so hard! Excellent video!
How is it?
Man, I'll still drive the hell out this car!
It’s a good chassis, decent power, great seats, and not an ugly car. But with cars in that 45k(ish) price bracket you’re getting way more up to date infotainment, turbos, magnetic ride suspension, and other creature comforts. Great car, I had a 370Z years ago. It just hasn’t kept up with the times unfortunately. Hopefully the next gen really steps it up.
@@Nelbone i dont want turbos :(
@@Nelbone Supposed creature comforts are a good reason to not buy newer cars, especially if you actually enjoy driving.
@@xb0xisbetter (He seems to have chosen a golf over a GT car to be fair...)
That pumped in sound scared the hell out of me no joke
Sounds like screaming souls from hell.
Why lmao
The Volume of it ramps up above 5k rpm and it becomes an ear splitting honky drone..so bad you wont wanna even go near redline till you disable it
Your point about grip is spot on. The longer I've owned my Z, the more I've come to just trust it around tight bends. Even with the TC off it stays planted very well. The fact that you can just as easily power slide around corners makes it that much more versatile of a machine.
still love my 370z - it's like a breath of fresh air on the road among the vast sea of SUV's...
I'd say this is a great way to start my morning. Love early uploads!!
The Nissan V6 has one of the best V6 engine sound with a good exhaust (especially the 3.5L) so this piping in sound is a crime IMO... Good thing it can be disabled! Great review.
The best V6 sounds are these:
VW R35
370z and 350z
90's Honda NSX
2019 Ford GT
Lotus Exige
I would also add the Jaguar F-Type to your list.
@@alextint5987 g35 and g37 tooooooo
Agree! Also the J32 V6 from Honda
@@DannyPhantomNYC g35/37 share the same engine with the z. Also the vq sounds like a wet trumpet.
classic old but gold car... the way everything feels old in this car makes me like it even more. With some performance mods this car is pure fire.
I have a 2005 and i"m trying to convince my brother to get this one. This is one of the best review/test I have ever see. Congrats!👽
Keeping on bringing the good content. Amazing review once again.
I Love the music parts of the videos, never take them out! It reminds of being in a roadtrip and just cruising along
Bro those first videos were so epic.. this car looked and sounded AMAZING back then I’ll always love the 370 because of that
Had an 09 370z with the upgraded brakes and 305 tires in the rear and 270s in the front. What a car, I had a B&M short shifter in it as well. It was an absolute blast to drive and it had a lot of power. I love the interior on the thing, but it wasn't the perfect car for me. I ended up switching to a C6 corvette and won't look back. But I will tell you, the 370z is a great car and if people get over the "I need a plasma TV infront of me" syndrome, they will really appreciate this car for what it is.
Eew eew plasma tv's , those are so old , it's all about 8k olec TV's
Yusss a manual review
I have a q40 (2015). Can confirm the bose is incredible. Hydraulic power steering and loud engine just livens up every drive. There's this strange combination of luxury and mechanical rawness. Car is an absolute dream.
I have the 2016 Nismo with a stick shift. 5th Z I've owned and this car is crazy fast and a beautiful car.
youre the baddest karen around
One of the only Nissan’s that doesn’t have an awful CVT
Yes, a dying breed unfortunately.
Because it has manual transmission LOL
All cars have ctv transmissions nowadays, do some research
And its almost an unbreakable trans, it can handle around 1000whp and torque.
@@hernanreyes2781 Nope, how about you do some research lmao.
I bought a 2016 new off the lot with a manual and learned to drive a stick with it. It was not easy. I love the car but it is a challenge to drive smoothly without abusing the clutch but is so satisfying. It's like the last bastion of RWD MT out there and is absolutely a driver's car.
The bose audio test is amazing, its like im inside the car!!
Love your demeanor and voice-perfect for car reviews and POV experience.
I wanted one but my wife's boyfriend said it's too low for the winter
😂😂
wait hold up whaat???
hold up wdym
bro😳❓
🤣
you have such a smooth and calming voice 🥴
11:48 man really went for the paddle shift lmao
05:22 more obvious haha
Couldn’t care less about the interior, this is one of the very few cars available with a NA v6 and a manual, a proper driver’s car. It’s also very good looking.
Still looks good even though its old. It is pretty funny seeing a "new car" with interior parts that're in our 2009 Altima coupe though lmao.
😂😂😂true
Yeah idk why nissan didn't update the interior at least if not the engine.
Honestly Im already kinda missing this style of pod gauges from the 2000's, gives it that fast and furious/need for speed look. While every new car has a tablet stuck on the dash and shit
My Rcz 247 CV
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@@grantapalooza998 fr, i prefer the look of these era dashes compared to now. Digital just doesnt feel right idk
Hasn’t changed for almost a decade. I’m ok with that. Some things just don’t need to change.
It might be "old", but it ticks all the right boxes! Would take this over many more modern sports cars. Great review.
Honestly, outside of American muscle, what even _is_ there in the way of modern sports cars with comparable prices and horsepower?
@@Selrisitaif30 335i and 340i
Perfect review, as always....! Keep it going.
This guy definitely deserves more views and subscribers!
11:45 That sound's good! Great car and great vídeo
the handling over all on these cars ( the g35/37's) are amazing as well
The best video I've ever seen for explanation, leadership and enthusiasm 🔥🔥👍🏻
So Raw.. Old School Awesome!!
Great POV vid there too!!
I would love to see more of this car!!🙏🏼🙏🏼
For anyone wondering, the 400z was in the new Nissan commercial. So it's coming.
These are great little cars, my friends 2021 NISMO with turbos is getting a solid 600HP and goes like you wouldn't believe.
One thing that drove me crazy about my old 6MT G35 sedan was how short the 1st gear was. You have to rev the engine pretty high even in normal driving to keep up with traffic. A car with a decent amount of torque I felt like it was a waste to have such short gearing.
I don't care if it's old, it's one of the best cars ever!
Last of the "analogue" cars.
It's nice how much Nissan retained that raw 300zx feeling, however traction and VSC is very nice to have.
Yessssss
I still love the 370z. Yeah, they're pretty outdated (mainly interior wise) but the engine with a manual is so much fun and the new Nismo looks soo good. I can't attest too much about the driving characteristics of the z but I own a g37 sedan and with aftermarket sways, the car drives amazingly well. Just wish the g also had the active rev matching. It would've been a nice feature to play with.
I dpmt understand why people are calling it old and outdated. How is this nisno on the snow does it ride pretty smooth through snow or does rwd rear wheel drive get caught or stuck in snow
@@leonelbarra-alvarez8424 The reason I say it's outdated is mainly the interior with the infotainment system. It was an okay system back in 2009 when it first came out but the fact that you get 2009 tech in a 2020 car was its downfall imo. I think the main argument for the car being old is that the engine and transmission is something out of 2009 where newer cars tend to use direct injection and some sort of forced induction. Don't get me wrong, I love the VQ in this car, but some people may see it as a negative. However, the new Nissan Z does seem like it will solve those issues. I am very excited about the new Z.
In terms of snow performance, I barely have any experience but rwd would be more difficult to drive for the average person because oversteer is generally more difficult to control than understeer. I'm sure that with proper snow tires and a competent driver, they won't have issues but for the everyday driver, it may be more difficult.
I had a 2010 370z and loved that car. Feels very sporty.
Definitely the best 370z review I've seen.
Would be interesting in these vehicles to see the variance between the throttle and engine response if there was a pedal-cam POV.
A 6 speed manual transmission is still available in 2020......Thank you Nissan!!!
I'm so excited for the 2021!!!
Yup, I've heard many times that with the S-mode Auto rev match helps both with not only the downshifts but the upshifts as well. Got the base Z (no rev match feature), and im decently smooth now, can only imagine how much smoother i'd be with that feature.
you'd hate it because rev match on upshift introduces huge rev hang.
What a lovely sports car . Its easy fun to drive and great performance
As old as this car is, it still looks beautiful.
this was a very enjoyable review. And your voice is very soothing
I bought myself a 370z Nismo v2 in April 2022. I love it! In Germany this car is pretty rare and the prices are still increasing. But its absolutely worth the price. I will never ever gonna sell mine. It was my favorite car since i was a child.
One of the last Mohicans… I love it❤️
Thank god you can disable that idiotic artificial sound, it's hideous.
It sounds so stupid! It sounds like a cat moaning!
That’s what other drivers don’t like about noisy sports cars.
It’s literally like smoking cigarettes- don’t impose your habit onto people around you:
So they give you a mic’d version of your engine note instead of you imposing your boom onto everyone else.
@@nextleveljourney6612 ok karen
@@nextleveljourney6612 Lol, stop being silly with this Karen mindset, that doesn't make any sense. Go live in the boonies if a simple car can bother you that much. You'll hardly bother someone with a proper exhaust on any sports car, let alone if it's stock.
QuackGarage - calm down
Quack
(why choose that name if you’re serious about cars, btw ?)
I’m not mad about car sounds.
I like Car sounds and I have a Mazda 5 speed 🕹
I was just speculating why Carmakers are Mic’ing the sound into the BJ for their Buyers.
man! that sound quality is amazing
Thank you for making the videos, love the car.
That fake exhaust sound in the cabin is horrible. Can’t believe how bad it is. Sounds like an old computer F1 game running on a 386 with internal PC speaker.
mrnicktoyou bruh facts
Lmao coming from someone that doesn't even own one or even driven. Shut up dude you're a follower putting a comment that you've seen from somewhere else. I'm sure your minivan makes better exhaust sound
CoupeLifeVQ I have a 6.0 LS V8 with 3 inch exhaust. It makes a better sound than almost anything and doesn’t need fake sound through the speakers.
@@mrnicktoyou that's the point of it. The exhaust is dead silent for men who don't want obnoxious sound all day. I remember when I was 20 loud cars were cool. Preference I guess but the sound is not terrible especially coming from a guy that hears it everyday
I dont mind it
i can appreciate this car because how many RWD v6 2 door sports cars are there left? yes its incredibly outdated but hopefully the 400z is coming.
The 400z was in the new Nissan commercial. Its coming.
@@NotAdamSnider when those drop hopefully so do the prices on 350z and 370z ill def be picking one up
This will still look nicer though
For everyone talking down on this car, you simply won’t find anything that’s been tried and tested for a decade as light as this car with all the aftermarket’s parts being readily available and reliable. Also it has its own special presence on the road.
Love that saying “new old car”.
Yo they're still making this car? Holy crap. I'm definitely getting a lightly used one at some point.
Strictly Come Driving yea there's no point in buying a brand new one you might as well get a older model it's cheaper and is pretty much the same
My legit dream car😌😍 is a Nissan 370Z Nismo
I'm borrowing a friend's 2010 370Z manual and it's crazy how unchanged it is 10 years later. Other than the engine sound, it's a pretty good driving experience.
Test drove one a few months ago and I'm convinced it's the great medium that he suggests. You can drive it towards its limit without feeling overwhelmed while still having a considerable amount of fun. The power coupled with its light weight really makes it a middle weight sports car. The bose system is quite better than you'd expect, especially for a car its age. Im pretty sure I'll own one within the next year.
1650kg ain't lightweight :( biggest flaw of this car. two seater that heavy is absurd.
@@idokwatcher2062 I misspoke, its a middle weight but compared to most of the affordable sports cars and grand tourers on the market here in America its about 300 pounds lighter and typically has a shorter wheelbase/overall length. ~3300 pounds is relatively light compared to a mustang gt at ~3600. Only th I ngs lighter that are in the same affordability bracket are the GT86 platform, Miata and S2000. Me be I ng 5'8 220 I honestly feel too big next to/inside those cars and with the exception of the S2000, there's little to no passing power.
Did you end up getting one?
OMG - these roads....🥺 regards from Europe😉
I love that car! Just a pure driving experience at a reasonnable price! What else do you need? Greetings from Germany!
My dad has a 300zx twin turbo so I grew onto the whole nissan z side and always wanted one of these
Nice vid...I owned one from (nearly) new in 2015 and loved it. Looking to get another in 2020 or early 21...can’t wait 😎
The 370Z sound always reminds me of the DB7s V12.
Yeah that noise enhancement would have to go if I owed this. I’d by a bimmer if I wanted to hear that fake noise bs.
SHEESH THE INTERIOR LOOKING NICE AND PLAIN
I want one..despite the outdated stuff in it still awesome, beside its the power that I care about..NO stupid CVT and turbos just straight natural power..im old school so this up my alley
I like how the 370z tries to keep its roots, sadly though some of the outdated tech is gonna make these sell well for used cars and never be bought new, Idk in my opinion Nissan is lacking compared to other companies when it comes to that, but I bet the driving experience is phenomenal I'd love to test drive one
The driving experience is very... meh. Think 350z but the steering is somehow even more rubbery, the vq37 is ok but doesnt have the same character its predecessor did. Its a 6 tenths car. Comparable to the genesis coupe. Great on paper, disappointing in practice. The miata is the way, especially after its latest refresh.
I've driven one and they are just as fun as you expect.The inside is a little smaller then you'd expect but power is their it is indeed a fun car and sounds Incredible in person under Throttle..deff drive one. Amazing seating position aswell and makes a lot of torque for what it is..Could use another 15hp for the top end power but low end and mid-range is strong..and that 15hp can easily be achieved buy one of the many tunes they make for these cars ..I drove the automatic tho so I can't speak on the manual .I'm sure it's just as fun if not more shifting the gears yourself and the instant throttle response even tho people say these are actually faster in the auto
Nutz kun I don’t know what “rubbery” means. I have a 2017 nismo and the steering is tight. I’ve had the car for 3 years and still get excited in anticipation when I’m about to drive it (It’s not a daily driver).
Major Mayhem we must have driven very different cars, in my experience both the 350z and the 370 suffer from lifeless steering. Its tight but artificially so, it doesnt communicate the road nearly as well as its competitors. But again, it isnt meant to. Its for all intents and purposes a japanese mustang, not a worthy rival of the miata or a 86. Too heavy. Understeers like a pig and that cheap feeling interior translates in to the entire driving experience, everything about it feels halfway complete (once again, a 6 tenths car) Its a real shame too because nissan used to be really good about making playful chassis’. These days they develop a decent engine and cobble the rest of the car together with scraps.
For what its worth though i love the vq35 to death (not so much the 37 for reasons i cant quantify, namely sound) I daily drove an altima with one for years and it refused to die. Sold it with 280k miles on the clock. Then again, it was designed in a much better time for nissan... even then though the build quality was miserable, and its only become worse with time.
@@VolvosandHondas I agree with you on the quality part but disagree with you on comparing a powerful z to a Miata or a86 lol I know your not comparing a HR or G37 or 370z car ..a first Gen auto DE yes I totally agree
I can't lie the buttons and interior looks dated for a 2020 car, but nonetheless a very nice looking car!
The whole interior is at least from 2009
The way the infotainment screen is set is distinctively 2007-2008 g35/g37
The interior would look dated for a 2010 car tbh.
was thinking the same thing and even the exterior of the car looks dated. they really need to relaunch the Z
@@thekornrole They are...
While Nissan/Infiniti don’t really have a car that goes up against. The German M, AMG, and RS models, their cars are pure fun and do cater to the enthusiast in you.
Excellent exhaust and engine sounds, high revving engines, crisp Bose sound systems, reasonable maintenance costs, STRONG aftermarket support.
They make great daily drivers, for the street racing enthusiast, and provide year-round satisfaction for those that truly love to drive.
That being said, I’m about to hop in my Infiniti for a little Sunday cruise, now, myself. ✌🏾
I've never understood all the hate for this car! 350 HP out of a naturally aspirated V6 = fantastic. 7500 RPM redline = fantastic. 3400 lbs give or take = decently light. Available in a 6 speed manual, great brakes, decent weight distribution, and decently comfortable. Never have I ever understood all the hate
Bunch of picky soy beans around. It's the last of a dying breed, and so are enthusiasts apparently. Sad tbh
One word: Jealousy.
Even though the interior is all the way from 2009, it’s still a nice car!!
I think the 370Z is the coolest vehicle nissan produces after the ty-frontier-osaurus and Titan. I like the GTR but i don't like automatics. 370Z wins.
i love 370z
@@poordriverreview8333 i think it's saving nissan. It's a really good naturally aspirated V6 vehicle. I prefer the normal 370Z with nismo seats.
My buddy had one of these for a short time. Blast to drive and sounds great.
Best video for me so far
Lmao, mans car has auto tune 😂
I miss my 09 370z.... interior looks exactly the same tho hahahahahhaa
That’s crazy u used to be with Winding Road, I used to watch them when I was like 10. Now I’m 17 about to turn 18 and get my license, learned quite a bit from u over the years
This guy underrated no cap!!!
I love the interior lol , just a 2009 g37 interior🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️
Can't wait till they depreciate so I can buy for a fraction.
They hold up their value pretty well, specially the manuals
Car still goes for 17k
Just a 2015 or older Nismo or other 370Z for cheaper. Literally no difference at all
A 2009 is literally the same... Unless you want a nismo? I think they came out a bit later, but still, literally the same car...
I don’t think they will depreciate that much but when the 400Z comes out they will probably get a bit cheaper
Oh man, gotta love a manual with no rev hang!
Owned a 2011 370Z, loved that car. So much fun to drive...like a gecko on the road.
Nissan really milked this genereation
milked would be understatement tbh
Yep. They do that a lot. They did it with their trucks.
More like forgot they had it and dropped a new trim lvl to get people happy.
The interior looks dated. Even the interior in the 2008 Acura TL type s looks better then that. But regardless, it’s nice to drive a car with a manual transmission.
Those 3rd gen TLs are the best cars ever. They looked great, ride/handled great and aged very well.
IKhan hell yeah. I use to drive one those Acuras. I had one with a 6 speed manual transmission. It was a good first car.
It has a CD player 😂
@@LunarStrike Some all new Cars have them, not only this one.
Nachowskip it’s a dead media
Memories, I had a 2013 370z with the sport package. It was fun to drive.
When my 86 is paid off I might get one of these. It looks so fun.
Do you like your 86, I can’t decide between that and the 370/400