What a blessing to have come across your channel🙏quit cold Turkey after long term denial and abuse…. On day 10 off opiates/street “opiates” and it has been the worse feeling ever but needed to go through this pain to be sure to never ever feel this way ever again. Thank you for all your valuable information Dr. Coleman much appreciated Sir!!
@@gravydavy9930 stay strong man!! I’m on day 28 as of today and to be honest the first 2 weeks was not fun but I’m feeling much better! Much respect to you for taking the first step in quitting!💪🏽💪🏽 things that helped me were music, keeping the mind busy. My appetite was off but tried to eat at least one solid meal and I purchased restless legs meds otc and it helped a bit.
@@2nostromo28 days today… my energy levels feel low still but thank God I’m able to get through each day, able to work even though it feels way more strenuous but mentally and physically feel much better. Thanks for asking🙏🙏🙏
Alcohol wasn't easy to stop but easier compared to cigarettes or opiates it's like the difference in being shot a few times or eaten by 10,000 ants. Alcohol is by the day where opiates and cigarettes are by the minute. It's much easier to tell myself I don't want to drink than to tell myself I don't want to be on opiates because drinking is so sloppy and it's a few hours a day where opiates start in the morning and continue all day just like cigarettes. This Dr knows the reality of opiate addiction, I wish more Drs did.
I think a lot of times it is more difficult to get off pain meds because the person is really in pain even if they don't even realize how much pain they are in because they've been in pain so long, but their body knows they're in pain and it craves pain meds because you are actually in pain. Sometimes I'll be going along, busy and when I slow down I realize that I'm in a lot of pain, then suddenly I want my pain pill.
Before my T1diabetes popped out I drank and did cocaine. Used that as a performance enhancer. Was a high level network engineer and stared at computer screens for hours at the time. Was good at my job. Got sick and cocaine and alcohol where the first to go. Took me 7years to quit cigs. Fk cigs. Those are the hardest to quit. Opiates you have to remember all the happiness you get from dope is how much sadness you must endure stopping it.
Yeah but the people who don't need them are the ones who struggle physically and mentally because it makes you feel like a worthless loser that you let something completely control every aspect of your life and it's so hard to get off of.
Thank you sir for video. You are very accurate in your assessment of opioid use. Iam a chronic pain patient and even though my dose has not been increased in 8 years I feel the affects of not getting my medication on time if the pharmacy runs out of my opioid mds and it puts me in withdrawal til there able too get my opioid in stock. I have gone as long as 2 weeks waiting for them to get my md in stock and opioid withdrawal is awful. Saying it’s like the flu is such a understatement cause it’s so much worse. I almost called my pain center and requested subs or methodone cause it was that bad
I agree 💯 %. I haven’t experienced ANY worse Pain on This Planet AS BaD as Opiate WithdrawaL. I would rather Die than keep going through withdrawal. It’s just too much to bare 🤦🏻♂️ 😞 😔 😢 😭
im currently on day 4 without tramadol. the restlessness and insomnia is some of the worst i experienced. not having fever or shakes like with heroin but man o man is the withdrawal genuine.
@@Sargassian I wanted to ask because I too have failed but this time I'm doing much better. My wife brought Kratom. It prevents the WDs like magic. Well it is another type of opiate and the powder tastes like sh1t. I worked out the minimum amount I needed to counter the missing Morphine (used orally for 7 years) and used a taper schedule to get down to 3 g/day and then jumped off completely. Just starting day 4 and its fine. I slept about 3 hours today which, as you know is a lot. Tired but no body aches/spasms. Good luck. let me know if you have questions. Kratom is the goods
I’ve gone through withdrawals from many opiates and none of them were as bad as tramadol! I had all the typical horrid withdrawal symptoms plus brain zaps! Those were awful! I lost so much weight in 6 days time and froze to death! The restless legs were the worst! Again, I have endured withdrawals many times but none were as horrific as coming off tramadol!
The thing that gets me is the depression. I'm not a hardcore addict like many would describe themselves. But I have tried to quit many many times but the depression or hole it leaves in my life always catches me out. I just feel depressed so much.
Hi rember its never to late to get clean i was on heroin and metherdon for well over 33 years i ended up detoxing my selff im now about a year clean my point is life is for liveing rekovery is a long painfull road but it can be doune
The depression sucks for sure, you literally forget how good it feels to be sober. With that said, please quit before you start the physical withdrawls. They are no joke. Once it gets to that point, you deal with all of that plus the depression.
@@picolascage5270 yes m8 the rattel is brutal but i can honestly say its werth it going threw all of it i wasted 33 years on opit id give enything too get them years back but i can honestly say metherdon saved my life but haveing saying that i wished someone had told me how hard it was to get off but like i siad no matter how long ya bin on it its never to late to get clean hope your ok m8
I do understand depression. As a 9 year old I couldn't save my brother and watched him get ran over crushing his face in. I took all the blame and blamed life damming it deep down. This is definitely what led me to drugs. Lately, it's called slow in my city, the fentanyl, and I've been playing tug a war with her for several years. But... I'm on day 6 cold turkey. Somehow, feeling great. Am smoking weed, but that's all. No sleep, except 3 hours for the first time yesterday. Been taking it differently this time for some reason. Like, I really want recovery to work. I want my brain back. My decisions. My freedom. Best of luck all 🤞 we are a community that can make it.
I've been addicted to opiates, Suboxone, alcohol, benzos, weed, cigarettes. I only still smoke cigarettes. Opiate withdrawal was definitely the worst but tbh alcohol and benzos was no joke as well because I had withdrawal seizures from alcohol. While it's not the same kind of withdrawal feeling, it pretty rough. But still opiates was the worst. Oddly enough when I was younger, I tried to kick Suboxone a few times and wasn't ever able to because obviously I would withdrawal. But a couple yrs ago I finally did it and it wasn't that bad at all. Idk why it was different that time. It wasn't like I really wanted to quit or was motivated to. But I did it and haven't looked back and haven't done opiates either.
I thought benzo's where the worst mentally and opiate's the was the worst in both mental and phisical pain. I just quit suboxone and really is hasnt been that bad. And even like you said Ill still be using snus when this is all over. Tobacco and nicotine are the worst mentally out of ANY drug on the planet.
@@Mikesusendsadasdc I mean I guess it's all subjective. When I was doing hella opiates & would w/d (without subs) it was the worst! But on subs, it was easy obviously. Quitting subs was easy too, you just have to want to. Benzos was a whole nother experience. I guess you could say it was "mental" if you mean it felt like my brain was getting little electrical "zaps" and would wake up panicking. Alcohol was worse than benzos for sure though. Seizures are no joke. Best of luck to you on quitting Suboxone homes! If I can, you can! Just don't even entertain the idea of going back to opiates, nowadays it's not even remotely worth it. 💕💕💕 P.S. I still smoke cigarettes. I hear ya on the whole tobacco thing. It is what it is.
I was on heroin and methadone for 13 years. I got bored with the heroin and quit, but then had to taper the methadone, which was a pain. Then the withdrawal and PAWS afterwards. It’s not easy, but you can do it if you really want to.
Doctor colman you treated me in Virginia, i did wonderful for awhile but had to had 2 laser and one shockwave lithotripsy surgery and took dulidud for months.... I got horrible symptoms and had to go back on a low dose of bupe.... And have had so much chronic problems (chrons disense) and wah wah im back on methadone.... Miserable slave But it was just back luck with my health , you all were great Thank you doctor coleman if your the same one from Richmond Va. I was from kentucky
Thanks, Joseph. Yes, this is Dr Coleman of the Coleman Institute in Richmond, VA (and now in 7 other states). Sorry to hear about challenges you have had to contend with. Best wishes!
I think sometimes the intense desire to feel. Normal again after months of post acute wd gets blamed as cravings. As long term recovery addict from opioids I cannot relate to cravings for the drug. In fact I hate the drug but what I do crave is to feel normal energy normal strength normal brain sharpness etc. There is a big difference in definitions
I relate, I’ve been on Dr prescribed opiates for over 20 yrs for chronic pain. I don’t know life without them, I was on a time released one for the last 10 yrs. Only time I had problems is when my pharmacy wouldn’t fill it, or my insurance refused to pay for it. So my dr just switched me to pills not time released, changing my dosage every month. I’ve been through wd many times, it’s hell in hell. I’m slowly lowering the dosage they tell me to take, I’d rather find other ways to deal with my pain then go through this forever. I do smoke pot, it helps a little. I don’t crave it, I don’t get a rush etc at all. I wish I was never put on them, they did give me fentanyl patches years ago. I passed out from it, that scared the hell out of me. I was done with that game, so now I have 3 different milligrams of the MS Contin / morphine . So that’s going to help me get off them, I’m just doing it a couple weeks at a time. I’ll get off them I have no doubt on that, it’s just hard learning the dosage to lower and avoid wd. I too miss my energy and my memory etc, I just forget what life’s like without them. I wish you luck 🙏
@@wshazbot62 agreed - the energy is the hardest to give up!!! I suspect maybe people that don’t get the energy boost, sometimes have an easier time with it than those of us who do; because other substances can also give euphoria, but not the energy boost sometimes
Threw what?? I've been Through a bit myself, Definitely Threw it Down. 👍🏻 ttl8tr I'm a hit this drive Thru! Welp Ya'll gtg I'm Threw 4 now!😉🤔 👍🏻😂 funnie rite thar Ya'll! Dang it just threw my hip out. 🤯 there's the garbage truck! 🤯😂👍🏻😅
@@philluphardagain4925 So he misspelled "through" as "threw." This is no reason to make light of the subject matter. There is a polite way to correct a man's misspelling without being rude.
I pray that you have, or will beat this horrible addiction. Speak to a trained medical professional who can help you if you need it. I wish you all the best.
My story started with cancer (2018). After 5 years, I was on 8mg of Dilaudid every 3h. My tolerance and dependence was so high that I had hyperalgesia. Yes, my chronic pain was EXPANDED by that opiate. Not to mention low immunity , edema, no stamina. THANKS GOD THAT POISON IS PART OF THE PAST
i’m addicted to dilaudid right now. due to my wisdom teeth being impacted it’s been about 1 year and 2 months everyday. if you can talk i’d love to ask you some questions from someone who has went through🤞🏼🫡
Yeah bro. I'm from the UK and I got given heavy pain meds (morphine, hydromorphone) after suffering a stroke which paralysed the right side of my body. Was totally unnecessary to be honest as it was basically always going to be painful doing the physio required to get myself back to a somewhat normal life. I was 7 and by the age of 14 I was using street opiates and was in and out of psychiatric units and detoxes. It's weird because in the UK they're usually very careful about what they prescribe to you....this was in 2001 though so I know it's become more regulated and understood. This video was very interesting!
GABAergics like alcohol, benzos, GHB and barbiturates cause the worst physical withdrawal symptoms, it can even kill you. That's not comparable to opioids.
Xanax withdrawal was the worst experience of my life. When I started hallucinating music that wasn't playing and hearing imaginary sirens, I knew shit was about to get nasty
I’ve endured withdrawal of those drugs you mentioned and pretty much every opiate known to man. The worst drug I ever came off of was tramadol. No lie! It was pure torment. No one believes me but it’s true. Methadone sucked but tramadol was a nightmare. I think it must be different for everyone.
I've been addicted to opioids ever since I was introduced to them, first by a doctor which was Tramadol in 2012 and then by a man I met in rehab in 2014, with him I went into Oxy. Where I live, which is not the U.S, we don't really have heroin so there is no "cheaper alternative" to Oxy so getting high has always been extremely expensive. I'm on Suboxone now but I want off that shit as well! I hate that drug and I'll always regret the day I said yes to being put on it in rehab in 2017. I've been an addict since I was a teen and my whole family deals with this disease so I've been using since 14 but never ever has my life gone to so much shit as when I was introduced to Oxy and Benzo's! My life literally got ruined! There is nothing more horrific than the withdrawals from these drugs, but I will say I completely understand why that guy said "it's like getting a hug from God". I haven't gotten that high in years because of my tolerance but I'll never forget the first time I got that high, there is nothing that has ever in my life felt as good. But eventually it destroyed my life. Not worth it no matter how good it felt. I've actually been thinking about the Coleman method to get me off Suboxone but I am so scared of these withdrawals! NOTHING is as horrible!
boy, I can relate to you completely…I’ve been on Norco (from my doctor) for 17 years now & it’s destroyed my life…I just cannot quit them…the WORST withdrawal ever….so very violent for me…I’ve tried Suboxone, but I stopped because my vomiting was uncontrollable….if I had known what opioids do to the brain, I would have never taken them…I think my next step to quit will be either Methadone or the Coleman Institute…but, you ain’t kidding….HORRIFIC withdrawal!!!
You just got to jump, stay committed and stay strong. You can beat that drug! I promise you will feel better sooner than later. It's not fun but you just got to accept that you're going to feel bad for a few weeks or so. Don't lose hope you can beat it!
@@venice9405 never ever use replacement drug you can do it I mean it I read a lot here I read about addiction and still I say no one's knows what's heroin is I reached the maximum if I tell you what I do ull go crazy but everything has an end . The most brutal is when I have no choice but to find an iron rod and push it into electricity to get electruded don't dare do that I'm not asking you to try it don't don't it will kill you because I still don't know how I'm alive there is nothing I didn't see I met the devil himself . Fight on it will go
It takes so long for your brain to neutralize after coming off. You feel sick for months even when the “physical” is supposed to over in 72 ish hours. It’s a general feeling of unrest and unwell. Skin feels like ants crawling underneath. Legs are restless and it just destroys your ability to sleep.
Honestly this video sounds like it makes the case for opioids not against them. We all know about the tolerance situation but I was on three Norco tens a day for over 20 years and never abuse them and didn’t ever try to get more or move on to street drugs I crushed my hip and pelvis in a fall through a roof. The side effects are so slight that you can’t even tell people are on this drug it helps with mental pain it helps with physical pain it makes you happier, what is the problem? Not everybody pushes it to the extreme with opioids a lot of us just want to have a peace of mind and be pain-free or at least less pain and there’s nothing wrong with helping mental pain as well. My doctor retired and I lost my pain meds all at once it’s been years and I feel terrible I hurt all over, I’ve been on disability because of it for years and now that I have a medical marijuana card a pain clinic won’t even see me in Ohio. It seems the same situation with benzodiazepines. Anything that actually works they don’t want you to have any part of. They want you on mine controlling SSRIs and antidepressants that completely take you out of the game and numb your mind. They are just as hard to get off as any other narcotic. They will shove them down your throat as many as you can eat but if you ask for a Xanax or a pain pill because you have pain or anxiety they treat you like the devil. What’s the point of making anti-anxiety medication when they won’t prescribe it to people with severe anxiety and what’s the point of pain meds that actually kill pain but again will not prescribe them. I am disabled and my whole left side was crushed why can’t I get a pain pill? Literally suffering every single day of my life now. At least they have tried me on 13 different types of antidepressants! Never felt so bad in my life after taking SSRIs. The system is screwed up.
I would be up the creek if I had to depend on an anti-depressant, I absolutely cannot take those things. I've been on pain meds for 20+ yrs and it doesn't appear to be so difficult to get into a pain mgnt here in Ga. But my sister and her husband live in SC down along the coast Beaufort her husband has MS and has excruciating headaches at times and my sister says there are no pain meds to be had there. Disgusting. I would not have had any kind of life without my pain meds.
@@amberlilly4101 they’re taking everyone’s pain meds in Ohio now. I was talking to my neighbor up the road and he was on pain meds and his doctor has retired now as well and they gave him a referral to a pain clinic but when he called the pain clinic to set up the appointment they told him they would not be prescribing opioids they were going to be doing other types of pain management like physical therapy and injections. They are making it to where you can only get opioids for end of life pain. They blame the war on opioids and all of the deaths from them on people who have legitimate prescriptions for their pain but it’s actually all of the fentanyl pouring over our border that is killing everyone. Watch the suicide rates and the accidental overdose rates climb as they crack down more on things as simple as Vicodin that you can’t even get unless you’re dying in Ohio. When I was young I remember going to urgent care with a toothache and getting prescription for 30 Vicodin’s with a refill. Nobody thought anything about it. If you’re having no issues getting yours be glad but be aware because they are cracking down no joke. I never thought I would have to go without mine after 20 years and I’m sitting here doing it now.
I agree with the opioid part. Trying to take the pills away just gave way to fentanyl and now everyone’s dying. And people like you are in pain. However with benzos I can’t say I agree. The withdrawal from those is absolutely BRUTAL and lasts many months, even years. And they can cause CNS damage. I only took my prescribed dose of benzos and 6 months of my life were gone trying to taper off and I still deal with those withdrawals. And I never abused it either t
@@shadowX9365 Yeah I’ve been on the benzo‘s for years also. I was on 6 mg a day of Xanax at my highest point and I’m down to 2 mg right now. I definitely agree with you about coming off the benzo‘s being hell. Learning more and more about it the lower I get on my dosage. I am hoping and praying I don’t have long crazy protracted withdrawal that last for years. Honestly I do fine on 2 mg and if I could stay there I wouldn’t worry about it but they are cutting back on opioid and benzo prescriptions. It’s just a matter of time and I would rather get off of them in my own time starting now while I still have a script for them instead of on their time and having to come off too quick. I got cut off the first time when I lost my doctor and had major issues then found a psychiatrist but they’re already sounding like they’re wanting to cut back on the 2 mg. I know why tea is filled with horror stories of coming off benzos. I’m hoping I’m the exception to the rule! Lol
Dr. Coleman does it again. Thank you for another much needed video. My favorite part is how memories of opioid use are generally pretty good especially in comparison to alcohol, thus being much harder to not return. Memories I believe are the key in recovery. Remembering who you we're, who you really are naturally. The most positive and powerful memory you can muster can get endorphins moving. Here's to recovery y'all 🙏
I got 2 years 6 months with God. I'm going to AA and doing the 12 steps this time. I feel confident that I won't use today! 47 days, working out helps, and Im looking into supplements to offset the damage to my nuerology.
pretty good show.i;m 80/ i quit once for 2 yr 3months. joind na. been popping perks the last few years. trying to taper off again. pretty hard. good luck i do dope for mental pain not phytsical. my son and some family do drugs so how do i give up my family to prevent temptation. some times i realise legalization and moderation could be better than what we have today. don;t do the first one is the best advice i could ever give you. thanks
I was about to point out that "endorphine" is literally a portmanteau of "endogenous morphine" right when you made the very same point. I'm usually unimpressed with doctors talking about opioid addiction, but I've subbed to this channel because I've been so impressed with this channel.
@@thecolemaninstituteforaddi6234 can you kindly talk specifically about Tramadol withdrawal? Am a medical professional was on Tramadol low dose but for about 20yrs...was also on pregabalin for the past 5yrs, I suffer with chronic upper back pain, am now on methadone for 1yr now on 20mg/2mls per day, it takes away the back pain, I don't crave tramadol I haven't taken it for all the time I ve been on methodone which is 1yr now, and even if I miss taking methadone I don't think of tramadol, but I do take pregabalin when I don't get methadone so as to manage the pain and withdrawal, I d also take something for sleep, for nausea that's if I don't take methadone even for a day .. because the fatigue, pain, nausea, etc gets really bad that I cant even function. My question is if I start exercising will the withdrawals go away? Need to stop methadone because it's really difficult to travel everyday to the centre it's expensive too on transport that is...I need to start reducing methadone until I stop completely, but what else can I do so I don't withdrawal on methadone as well?..am willing to do anything so I can start seeing patients again...I have no energy, it was tramadol that helped me for 20yrs to attend patients as it took away pain and fatigue... please help
I’ve been on pain meds for over ten years, fist was percs then was OxyContin 40mg 3 times a day with break thru meds then I lost my insurance so the doctors put me on methadone. When I got my insurance back the war on drugs started then I was on opana but then my new dr. Started me on Fentanyl 100 mcg every 48 hours and dilaudid for break through. I never used more then what was prescribed nor did I get high from anything but now I’ve worked up such a tolerance for the Fentanyl that I start getting hot and cold sweats around the 40th hour, if only the dr kept me on the oxy that worked great for me I wouldn’t be going through this hell. All because the war on drugs is failing and now I suffer along with many others.
I have 3 people I know who suffered severe pain, had their doctors wean them off so they ended up suffering horrible pain. WELL they found a way to END their pain permanently....but I'm so sad to have my friends take the easy way out...do I blame them? NOPE....the war on drugs....is only hurting those of us who suffer chronic pain...I've promised I will NOT take easy way out....but then again I might be a liar!
wait.....its 5 people I know who've died from lack of their pain not being managed properly....sheeeze, hard to count when I'm in so much efffing pain!
I'm severely disabled and have been since i was a little kid. I just dealt with the horrible pain and stress up until i got around the age of 35. Well of course i knew about pain medication so i went to several doctors and they all got defensive about it. I was running my self ragged trying to get pain medication legitimately. What really pissed me off was i knew quite a few people getting pain medication for injuries that didnt require such pain medication. Like hydrocodone 10s for a stubbed toe. Or a bicycle wreck that sprained someone's ankle...Oxytocin 20s Then there's me... I was shot on accident by my dad when I was 4, it went in my stomach at high downward angle it took out 1 of my kidneys put a hole through my liver and the bullet got lodged in my spine. Well it came to rest 8n a bundle of nerves that controls my bladder, bowels and it crippled my right leg. Well needless to say my body functions isn't automatic like a normal person, i have to cath and ill spare you the horrible details of my bowels.. Well my right leg was 90% paralyzed and when I was 5 they fitted me with a brace. It was the exact same braces that forest gump had on. Well in a bad turn of events the shop who made my brace did something wrong in the measurements and the shoe connected to the brace caused a horrible wound to appear on my paralyzed foot, Well i couldn't feel it and this massive wound got gangrene no matter how much my mom cleaned it, well long story short they ended up amputating my leg-off up above the knee. So i walked on crutches from 7 years old till 17. Then i got a prothstisis i wore it till my early 30s but it caused me to have open sores that would never heal become of the way the leg anchored. I had a big almost inch deep gash under the right of my nutsac where the leg was up to my inner thigh, and it also kept busting my stump open. So it got so bad my doctor said Tom i hate to say this to you but if you don't quit wearing the fake leg we're eventually gonna have to amputate the rest of your remaining right stump off up to you pelvis. So i was like fuck that, So ive been walking on one crutch the most part of 30 years. My arms are fucked up from the crutches, tendons are torn ive had some horrendous falls and still got that bullet in my back that hurts like hell, i have phantom pain that are devastating. So you can imagine my frustration when i got to these damn doctors and they see me they see my chart and still tell me no!!! So many doctor's havr told me know i had no choice but to take advil which doesn’t do jackshit really. Well now im borderline kidney dialysis from taking nsaids all my life for pain because these heatless doctors wouldn't help me legitimately by prescribing some pain medication without all that extra bullshit mixed in the pain medication, like oxy, morphine, ect. So ive been fucked all the way around by self righteous doctors who dont give 2 hoots in hell about people who really need and is a prime candidate for pain management.. No only thing they care about is what insurance you got and how much money they can make.
Wow! I can’t even imagine what all you have been through. It does seem like the people who really need it for pain can’t get any meds to help with the pain. In my experience, when I didn’t really need pain killers, I’d get them prescribed and the times I felt like I really did need them, they wouldn’t prescribe. The US created a monster in the 90’s when oxy came out and they used it for any little thing that a couple pills of Tylenol could have been therapeutic but instead they started pushing Drs to write these scripts for oxy saying, “it was a miracle drug with NO side effects.” After that, they started opening pain clinics and urging Doctors to write even more scripts because peoples tolerance went up and their lower current dose needed to be increased to be effective with, lstill no side effects.” Fast forward 10-15 years later the truth comes out of how dangerous and additive these drugs really were and cracked down on Dr’s for writting opioid medications. Because of that demand for them went up as well as the prices, so people switch to heroin because it was much cheaper, stronger and flooded everywhere. Now that the monster was created, it got out of hand so fast and snow balled that there’s very little chance of, putting the monster back in the cage.” Now that my books finished and you have read my comment thus far, I thank you and those that wish to comment on this with their own thoughts is encouraged. :)))
Hi I read your comment and was moved to tears ... I thought my addiction was worst thing that could ever happen but after reading your comment I realized how strong willed you are ... PS opioid will make your life worst so please stay away from it
What do you do if you are a chronic pain patient and every time u have a period of time of not using ur prescription opioids of 2 weeks or more and u find ur physical pain level is such that it makes it difficult too function without ur opioid prescriptions?
@@clasmaster1471 ur right. They don’t seem too care, I have been on my opioids for 10 years and with the storage of mds now iam having trouble getting my prescribed md
If I become unable too get my opioid prescription for my chronic pain because of shortage of mds now, I may have to relay on kratom and CBD and THC which I have had to relay on before. It requires high doses of CBD and moderate amounts of kratom in liquid form and the CBD in liquid or chews.
Riddle me this: I've been taking a relatively high dose oxycodone for chronic pain (so I'm told - 120mg/day) for approximately 30 years and I've always feared withdrawals - mostly because of all that I've heard and in films like Trainspotting. However ... I DO run short on occasion and from time to time I'll have to go 2-3 full days with nothing. Here's what I notice: I don't get cravings - like where it's all you can think of. I don't buy anything elsewhere. I just make way to tuck in for a couple of days and so far, honestly I haven't encountered ANY really bad symptoms like nausea, vomiting, shitting etc. I DO become extremely weak and my motivation to do ANYTHING goes right out the window. Other than that it's almost as if I don't withdraw at all and I've never been given a decent reason why - my doctor and pharmacist simply shrug and say "fortunate." Can you give me any possible reasons for this lucky break? I should add that I take them specifically for pain and not to get high. In fact I can't even see how anyone DOES get buzzed on the stuff - because it does nothing mind-altering for me. Could it be because of that? No cravings because there's no feeling to chase? Could it be the I don't metabolize OC very well and am therefore on a much lower dose than I'm getting? To that end, it doesn't really kill the pain as much as I'd like and that is why I run short occasionally ?? I'd like to hear the ideas of an addiction Dr. I'm not denying that I DO have an addictive personality. I had to quit alcohol 25 years ago because I liked it TOO much, but that went successfully, as did the cigarette habit that went away later that same year.
Hi trust me you are the lukyest person in the world to not get eny withdrals i was adicted to heroin and metherdon for over 33 years and trust me withdreasls are brutal i withrewed for over 7or8 months 24hour a day you dont sleep pluss you carnt control your arms or legs and the hangsyety i was awake for 4 weeks i was luky i got a dr to give me sleeping pills thing is wen your sleep deprived like that you feal like your looseing the plot with metherdon it takes months to get off it has such a relly long halth life i trewly do wish you good luck all the best from scotland
Is your oxycodone immediate release, or extended release (like OxyContin)? If you take extended release formulations, the entire timeline of withdrawal takes longer. They begin, peak, and dissipate days longer in time at each stage than immediate release
120mg a day isn't all that high, a lot of heroin users would be doing what is equivalent to at least 4x times that dose in a day. and like you say you're not abusing them, and clearly aren't even succeptible to addiction since you dont even get buzzed off them. you have a physical dependence which is significant but no mental addiction which is what drives a user nuts in withdrawal... it's like heart ache, you are in love with the feeling and can't stop chasing. the mental aspect of withdrawal an addict experiences make the physical aspects beyond unbearable.. it's like completely falling apart in every way
Kratom stops opioid withdrawal and is sold in grams, not milligrams, so it is much easier to taper. A slow kratom taper over a month or two with Agmatine Sulfate (which reduces tolerance), followed by an antidepressant like Wellbutrin along with D-Phenylalanine (which inhibits the enzyme that degrades endorphins) makes it easy to walk away from an opioid addiction. Why don't they do this?
I so agree with you. I am a lost opiate addict. I have been for years after my Fibromyalgia diagnoses. I quit 5 years ago, however, it only lasted about 7 months. Been back on since and it just gets worse. To a point where you feel you're dying...💔. I am scared every day😭
I’m right there with you…I’ve been on Norco for 17 years & I just can’t quit them…my withdrawal is just too violent…I have a problem & I curse Kaiser Permanente for giving me these pain pills 17 years ago…I need them now just to properly function…I will pray for you🙏🌸
I understand your struggle! I’m documenting my methadone detox and holy cow! I think they should be used acutely and never for long term pain management. I’ve been diagnosed with S.L.E. and prescribed heavy daily dose (160mgs) for 20 years. I’m now off of methadone completely for 9-10 months. IT CAN BE DONE!! It sucks but if you want it enough you’ll be ready to and then experience the most beautiful things!!! I’m sorry you all may be going through this!!! If you want to talk please lmk. Positive vibes, love and blessings!!!💪🙏✌️❤️
OK doctor....IF you can lower my chronic pain, cure my Ehlers-Danlos, broken Leg, 2 failed rotator cuff surgeries, 1 failed knee surgery, both arms have Popeye from the bicep muscle falling off the shoulder bone and bunching up into hard knot....damaged nerve from a bile duct surgery AND failed spinal surgery....then take my drugs away BUT you must transfer MY pain onto yourself, see how it feels to go without meds....and oh....this is only a few things I'm suffering from, but I'm sure your eyes began glazing over...I'm tempted to start growing my own puppies or move to Afghanistan....my pain is wicked bad for decades....and oh, the headon collision with a drunk 20 yrs ago changed everything.,,,,I'm SICK of hearing from misinformed people to take CBD oil for my pain....are you EFFING kidding me? Snorting Garlic flavored Olive Oil works better than CBD oil. I've lost 2 friends from suicide due to their chronic pain being unmanaged.
I hear you. Some of these doctors talk like we are taking pain meds for the fun of it. Even if you have an understanding doctor, the pharmacists give you a hard time. Now the DEA is cracking down on the pharmacies and throttling the amount they can order. Last month on my fill date Walgreens was completely out of pain meds and didn't expect an order for TWO WEEKS. The truly infuriating part is that we legitimate pain patients who need this medicine to function are treated like addicts while the government allows illegal fentanyl to pour over the border. I am 75. My body is not going to heal. The failed implants are not going to suddenly start working. The arthritis is not going away. I will never get another surgery that only causes more scarring, less mobility, and more pain. I am a Christian. I trust God. But sometimes the medication is how He helps us to keep going. I know a lot of people who have ended it all because the pain was more than they could bear. It's a horrible thing for surviving loved ones. I'm not going to do that to my family. I am so tired of having to drag myself to the pain management doctor every 4 weeks because they can't give you a refill. The added stress of not knowing if I will be able to get the medication is raising my blood pressure so now there's one more thing causing me anxiety. I cold turkeyed off this crap 11 years ago. I tried every including prednisone which caused a 40 lb weight gain. You're right about CBD: useless. Now I'm hearing about kratom. Really? Honestly, I'm afraid of it. Welp, time to get ready for the PM appointment. The doctors are very nice, but the government is trying to take prescription treatment out of their hands. I will pray for you.
I like how you put that. To transfer your pain to the Dr , so he can understand how you feel. Every day i wake up and some days i cry. I think How am i going to get through another day hurting. I take my pain med and wait for it to work so i can get up and get a shower. Id love for anyone that says that ppl shouldn't take pain meds, to do cbd listen to music meditation and so on, to feel like i do for one week without pain meds. Maybe they can take a small sharp pebble and put one in each shoe so every time they step down it hurts like hell. Go to work like that and be on your feet all day. Then when you take those sharp pebbles out of your shoe , it dont hurt to walk anymore. WHAT A RELIEF?? Well thats what pain meds are for chronic pain patients . We need relief we deserve to the help. Im tired of the stigma . Yeah if i stop my meds ill go through withdrawals. Ill get help . But untill this pain is down 50% ill take them. One of the problems with drs cutting off pain meds is the ppl go to the streets and get them. They can get ones laced with fyntinol and die. Or they can take more than they should because they dont have to drop for the pain dr every month , so why not? DRS cutting back too much or cutting pain patients off because they are scared of the cdc is one of the problems pain patients that are monitored by pain drs every month usually stick to the rules so not to be cut off. But tey still get punished and cut off of cut back too much or too fast Just because the government and cdc put all the statistics in one category. Opoid deaths. Over dose. From drinking with them orbuying off streets laced = all ppl and chronic pain patients cut off cut back. FK them all. They will find them on the streets, so why not take care of your pain patients for what they deserve. Pain relief so hey can have a decent life.
@@BS-dq1kznot true. They put us and all ppl taking them in the same category. Unless you, yourself have been a chronic pain patient , then you do NOT know. We ALL get treated like addicts. If im wrong.Then tell your pain management story. Im thinking you don't have one.
Prescribing opiates has been the lowest since it’s ever been. But the overdose rate is the highest. It’s ever been. We been using opiates for thousands of years. Opiates are not the problem. Fentanyl is the problem. From the border.
I have quit trying to kick my heroin habit without "medicated assistance" and i am now on my 16th year of methadone and recon i will be on it till i die from old age. Quality of life is non existant when all you can think about is to stay clean for one more day, one more hour, one more minute... F**k it, i have a job now that i am able to keep BECAUSE i`m not busy craving. I have a great woman who accepts my occasional limp methadone-dick, a little blue pill fixes that problem when it occurs and i have normal friends and hobbies. And to those who say that "you`re not REALLY clean on methadone" i say screw you, it`s my life not yours
Doesn’t matter if it’s your life what they r saying is true. Your on LIQUID HANDCUFFS methadone withdrawl long term is worse then heroin. And for me was worse even then fetti
This is a very good video. I had a shocking unbearable unexpected withdrawal after just 3.5 days on oxycodone for shoulder surgery. I had had a minor episode years before coming off a short term perocet use post surgery - remember thinking wow if this got worse it would be devastating. It was - within a half hour there was no way I was waiting to hear back from my doctors office and ended up taking one pill - whatever it took to make it go away. I knew the risk of taking more when not in pain - it worked. We think my episode was due to reduced kidney functioning which created a higher level than normal in my body. It left me interested in the topic of - are doing enough to put the fear of God into potential users - scare the crap out of them - I think too many think oh you might get addicted then you get help no big deal. I think more prevention could happen if people know there is no way in hell you ever want anything to do with withdrawal. Addiction is not the worst bad, you need to be very afraid of withdrawal, and the opiates are the worst.
I have ckd stage 3 . Been on opioids for decade for pain .hey NSAIDS make our kidneys worse. So what the hell do we take for pain. I agree withdrawal is the worst. Why can't we just stay on instead of living in chronic pain?
As being a opium addict I've been in and out of rehabs from my experience alcohol is by far the worse addiction and the cold turkey by far is the worst
Alcohol withdrawals are deadlier. Not nearly as painful though. I mean, if you want to go down that road, then a strong benzo or barb addiction would be "the worst addiction" but that's not my experience. Like, seizures can kill you and you simply cannot cold turkey tranquilizers or anticonvulsants including alcohol, but I'd rather go through alcohol detox than methadone detox if I had to pick. Also, worth pointing out, it's not about what "the worst" addiction is. Like, it isn't a contest. End of the day, every withdrawal syndrome sucks and no one is handing out medals for enduring "the worst one."
Yes but then you can end up like me addicted to it for 8 years. Im 2 days in and the withdrawals are just as bad as any other opioid. RLS, aches and pains etc.
@@JonKonik11 Thank you for speaking up. I should be more careful. In case it might help... This is what I asked ChatGPT to do and her response: I want to taper off Kratom. I am taking 4grams 5 times a day. I would like to taper off to zero within 4 weeks. Please send me a table format ChatGPT Here's an example of a tapering schedule for kratom, based on the information you provided: Week 1: Day 1-2: 3.5g, 5x/day Day 3-4: 3g, 5x/day Day 5-7: 2.5g, 5x/day Week 2: Day 8-9: 2g, 5x/day Day 10-11: 1.5g, 5x/day Day 12-14: 1g, 5x/day Week 3: Day 15-16: 0.75g, 5x/day Day 17-18: 0.5g, 5x/day Day 19-21: 0.25g, 5x/day Week 4: Day 22-23: 0.125g, 5x/day Day 24-25: 0.125g, 4x/day Day 26-27: 0.125g, 3x/day Day 28: 0.125g, 2x/day Note: This is just an example and may not be suitable for everyone. It's important to talk to a healthcare professional before starting a tapering schedule, as they can provide personalized guidance and support. Additionally, listen to your body and adjust the tapering schedule as necessary. Nostromo: Ian...I have empathy for you. I know what wds feel like. If I can help in any way let me know. For what it is worth I would never go Cold Turkey again. Find the minimium dose that works and go from there. I got much more help from ChatGPT than just the schedule. OpenAI.com is the webpage
@@JonKonik11 How are you doing? If you put up a temporary email we can get connected. I'm nobody, no expert but I would help as much as possible. Don't have to go it alone
Lots of talk about how bad they are but what do people with chronic pain do. Been using 10/325 hydrocodone for years and would like to stop but the pain wins after about 24 hours. Taking 3 to 4 pills a day through my pain management doctor.
Im on 130mg of methadone. And have been for addicted to morphine since i was 15, and at around the age of 30 i changed over to methadone. I still have hope ill stop one day. Or am i fooling myself?
It doesn’t matter if you’re on 100 mg or 2 mg unfortunately you just need to decide if you want to come off everyone is scared of the withdrawal affects however it doesn’t last forever and it can take years to get your mental health back on normal, you can do it 🙏
I was told that I had chronic pancreatitis and poot on palliative hospice and for 8 years given 125 Micah g of fentanyl and for 30 mg morphine sulfate a day and now I am off of these medications with the second opinion from a professor of medicine and I don't know how I'm going to get through this 114 lb I'm on 2 mg of ibuprofen 2 times a day how long will this nightmare last?
FYI first switch to kratom Then switch to only stem vein Taper as much as comfortable Then Mega dose vit c Over 3days increase tolerance to high doses of it while still on kratom 4th day stop kratom On that day take as much as 5grams every two hours in juice You can do this up to 80grams per day Do that for 3 to 4 days while getting plenty of protein Then when ready taper off the vit c I also used niacin and NAC for anxiety and cravings. I got off it. U can too. The rest is-all in your head.
That's absolutely what I did - except that I wasn't addicted to opiates first (just got addicted to Kratom). I thought the vitamin C was a joke, until on the third day after my first half teaspoon I had no withdrawals (after the vit c loading phase of 5,000 mg every 3 hrs)
I’m documenting my methadone detox and I don’t know about methadone being used as an assist with other drugs. It comes with its own “stuff.” There is hope!!!💪💪💪✌️❤️
@@anon681 AWESOME! I can feel….it’s not been easy, but 1 million times better than I could have imagined while on methadone. May I ask how you are doing? I appreciate you asking. Lmk how things are going. Positive vibes, love and prayers. 💪💪💪💪💪💪✌️✌️✌️✌️❤️
Hows it going m8 ya still doing ok i spoke to you a few months ago im the one who did my own detox and mouved from england to scotland im still clean and im doing relly well hope its the same for you m8 all the best my frend
Can i ask? If the person is a drug addict for so many yrs like heroin opioids all drugs. Does this person can change? If they never undergo to detox and therapist? Pls help i need an advice. Thank you
Yes you can sweetheart but you have to fight its will go but you have to fight offcourse you can change you weren't born with it yes you can yes you will go through hell I'm sorry to tell you but I swear it you can you can
Are you ok it will go I've seen hell 13 years of heroin addiction I can afford it then I went down as I said you were not born with it cross three days and start you can do it please talk
Dude....I am from Slovenia.Country you never heard of. You are the first "on line"doctor who kinda understand opoid addiction. I just disagree about alcohol....It's the same thing.Once you play with your brain it's over.
Off methadone almost 4 years did it for a week and I am going to bad withdrawals I feel so stupid that was the hardest drug to get off of I almost went crazy I can't believe I had forgotten😢
I can withstand a majority of the oxycodone symptoms but the most overwhelming symptom is insomnia. I've tried melatonin and it worked at first with 20mg a night but now it doesn't work at all. Any other more adequate /effective solution to not sleeping?
I slept for over an hour yesterday evening! 5 days with no sleep. I was begging for 5 minutes sleep but it was over an hour! Imagine being grateful for one hour of sleep... I'm hoping I get the same or more today.
YOU need to find chronic pain suffers another alternative ...You have information for drug addicts and none for elderly suffering from chronic pain...Get .
You cannot sleep sir smh that's why it's hell because it won't let you sleep if you do fall asleep it's only for like 15min and you body jurks waking you back up and guess what you feel even worst don't you think it wouldn't be as hard to quit if you could atleast sleep shit YOU CAN'T NOTHING HELPS ITS PURE HELL 😢😢
I just want to get off Suboxon. My pain doctor like everyone I have seen since my back fusion are great in prescribing it but to help me get off of it they don’t know how or want to! I think it’s malpractice that I have to even think about getting off it myself! Because I have tried and I kept going into withdrawals! Which is not very much fun! But he just says you just have to go without for a few days and see what happens?! That is just BS! So what can I do? I’m feeling kind of lost out here,
Opiates should only be prescribed for short term surgical procedures and terminal cancer patients. Opiates, particularly fentanyl are the absolute worst thing you could ever do to yourself especially long term.
I so wish I could be clean again I truly wish I could but I half to have surgery and don't want to don't want to be worse off if it don't work God plez heel me
Terminally ill cancer patients and life threatening traumatic injuries are reasons why opioids are needed in medicine! Would you let a surgeon operate on you without anesthesia?
I have a very important question. Will my boyfriends subs transfer to me through semen and sweet when I stay with him on the weekends? Bc it's Tuesday and I feel like I'm going through withdrawal
Are you trying to encourage relapse by saying those things. Instead of helping to overcome the withdrawal u're indirectly demoralising the recovering patients or those thinking to quit
He must assume everyone is in agony. Opiates do nothing for a normal healthy person except lower there endorphins. Then slowly over months do they give you relief.....minor euphoria
Xanax is the worst hands down gone off methdone and Fentanyl patch,but that was a walk in the park compared to go off Xanax .1,2 month off then your just started the hard time that can last upp to many years 😢😢😢😢😢yeah Years
What a blessing to have come across your channel🙏quit cold Turkey after long term denial and abuse…. On day 10 off opiates/street “opiates” and it has been the worse feeling ever but needed to go through this pain to be sure to never ever feel this way ever again. Thank you for all your valuable information Dr. Coleman much appreciated Sir!!
How's it going?
I'm on day 4 ...cold turkey I'm dying
@@gravydavy9930 stay strong man!! I’m on day 28 as of today and to be honest the first 2 weeks was not fun but I’m feeling much better! Much respect to you for taking the first step in quitting!💪🏽💪🏽 things that helped me were music, keeping the mind busy. My appetite was off but tried to eat at least one solid meal and I purchased restless legs meds otc and it helped a bit.
@@2nostromo28 days today… my energy levels feel low still but thank God I’m able to get through each day, able to work even though it feels way more strenuous but mentally and physically feel much better. Thanks for asking🙏🙏🙏
@@moneymitchy7046 You learn a lot about yourself... the hard way. Nice going
This guy is the very best on the net regarding opioids and withdrawl.
Really much better than any other source on the net.
Thank you so much for your kind words. Best wishes!
Alcohol wasn't easy to stop but easier compared to cigarettes or opiates it's like the difference in being shot a few times or eaten by 10,000 ants. Alcohol is by the day where opiates and cigarettes are by the minute. It's much easier to tell myself I don't want to drink than to tell myself I don't want to be on opiates because drinking is so sloppy and it's a few hours a day where opiates start in the morning and continue all day just like cigarettes. This Dr knows the reality of opiate addiction, I wish more Drs did.
I think a lot of times it is more difficult to get off pain meds because the person is really in pain even if they don't even realize how much pain they are in because they've been in pain so long, but their body knows they're in pain and it craves pain meds because you are actually in pain. Sometimes I'll be going along, busy and when I slow down I realize that I'm in a lot of pain, then suddenly I want my pain pill.
Before my T1diabetes popped out I drank and did cocaine. Used that as a performance enhancer. Was a high level network engineer and stared at computer screens for hours at the time. Was good at my job. Got sick and cocaine and alcohol where the first to go. Took me 7years to quit cigs. Fk cigs. Those are the hardest to quit. Opiates you have to remember all the happiness you get from dope is how much sadness you must endure stopping it.
Some people genuinely need this medication
Yeah, some people who sell it
Ya actually a lot of people need them .
Yeah but the people who don't need them are the ones who struggle physically and mentally because it makes you feel like a worthless loser that you let something completely control every aspect of your life and it's so hard to get off of.
Doctors don’t spend enough time with patients to know the difference in someone who needs it and someone who doesn’t
of course they do, that doesnt make it any less bad to be addicted to it though
Thank you sir for video. You are very accurate in your assessment of opioid use. Iam a chronic pain patient and even though my dose has not been increased in 8 years I feel the affects of not getting my medication on time if the pharmacy runs out of my opioid mds and it puts me in withdrawal til there able too get my opioid in stock. I have gone as long as 2 weeks waiting for them to get my md in stock and opioid withdrawal is awful. Saying it’s like the flu is such a understatement cause it’s so much worse. I almost called my pain center and requested subs or methodone cause it was that bad
I agree 💯 %. I haven’t experienced ANY worse Pain on This Planet AS BaD as Opiate WithdrawaL. I would rather Die than keep going through withdrawal. It’s just too much to bare 🤦🏻♂️ 😞 😔 😢 😭
@@RobertWilliams-oy1flI had to check… it’s “bear”.
“Bare” means “make naked”; “bear” means “endure”.
I look it up so I can learn.
im currently on day 4 without tramadol. the restlessness and insomnia is some of the worst i experienced. not having fever or shakes like with heroin but man o man is the withdrawal genuine.
The withdrawal from tramadol is mostly snri withdrawal...i am going through it right now but i am doing it slowly.
Are you winning? I used Kratom to taper down morphine use. works for me.
@@2nostromo i failed. the craving got to be too much. ima give it a retry in the near future though!
@@Sargassian I wanted to ask because I too have failed but this time I'm doing much better. My wife brought Kratom. It prevents the WDs like magic. Well it is another type of opiate and the powder tastes like sh1t. I worked out the minimum amount I needed to counter the missing Morphine (used orally for 7 years) and used a taper schedule to get down to 3 g/day and then jumped off completely. Just starting day 4 and its fine. I slept about 3 hours today which, as you know is a lot. Tired but no body aches/spasms. Good luck. let me know if you have questions. Kratom is the goods
I’ve gone through withdrawals from many opiates and none of them were as bad as tramadol! I had all the typical horrid withdrawal symptoms plus brain zaps! Those were awful! I lost so much weight in 6 days time and froze to death! The restless legs were the worst!
Again, I have endured withdrawals many times but none were as horrific as coming off tramadol!
The thing that gets me is the depression. I'm not a hardcore addict like many would describe themselves. But I have tried to quit many many times but the depression or hole it leaves in my life always catches me out. I just feel depressed so much.
Hi rember its never to late to get clean i was on heroin and metherdon for well over 33 years i ended up detoxing my selff im now about a year clean my point is life is for liveing rekovery is a long painfull road but it can be doune
The depression sucks for sure, you literally forget how good it feels to be sober. With that said, please quit before you start the physical withdrawls. They are no joke. Once it gets to that point, you deal with all of that plus the depression.
@@picolascage5270 yes m8 the rattel is brutal but i can honestly say its werth it going threw all of it i wasted 33 years on opit id give enything too get them years back but i can honestly say metherdon saved my life but haveing saying that i wished someone had told me how hard it was to get off but like i siad no matter how long ya bin on it its never to late to get clean hope your ok m8
I do understand depression. As a 9 year old I couldn't save my brother and watched him get ran over crushing his face in. I took all the blame and blamed life damming it deep down. This is definitely what led me to drugs. Lately, it's called slow in my city, the fentanyl, and I've been playing tug a war with her for several years. But... I'm on day 6 cold turkey. Somehow, feeling great. Am smoking weed, but that's all. No sleep, except 3 hours for the first time yesterday. Been taking it differently this time for some reason. Like, I really want recovery to work. I want my brain back. My decisions. My freedom. Best of luck all 🤞 we are a community that can make it.
@@JaredHoneymanhow are you doing?
I've been addicted to opiates, Suboxone, alcohol, benzos, weed, cigarettes. I only still smoke cigarettes. Opiate withdrawal was definitely the worst but tbh alcohol and benzos was no joke as well because I had withdrawal seizures from alcohol. While it's not the same kind of withdrawal feeling, it pretty rough. But still opiates was the worst. Oddly enough when I was younger, I tried to kick Suboxone a few times and wasn't ever able to because obviously I would withdrawal. But a couple yrs ago I finally did it and it wasn't that bad at all. Idk why it was different that time. It wasn't like I really wanted to quit or was motivated to. But I did it and haven't looked back and haven't done opiates either.
What does benzos?? D2s? Lol
I thought benzo's where the worst mentally and opiate's the was the worst in both mental and phisical pain. I just quit suboxone and really is hasnt been that bad. And even like you said Ill still be using snus when this is all over. Tobacco and nicotine are the worst mentally out of ANY drug on the planet.
@@Mikesusendsadasdc I mean I guess it's all subjective. When I was doing hella opiates & would w/d (without subs) it was the worst! But on subs, it was easy obviously. Quitting subs was easy too, you just have to want to. Benzos was a whole nother experience. I guess you could say it was "mental" if you mean it felt like my brain was getting little electrical "zaps" and would wake up panicking. Alcohol was worse than benzos for sure though. Seizures are no joke. Best of luck to you on quitting Suboxone homes! If I can, you can! Just don't even entertain the idea of going back to opiates, nowadays it's not even remotely worth it. 💕💕💕
P.S. I still smoke cigarettes. I hear ya on the whole tobacco thing. It is what it is.
@@Mikesusendsadasdchow much and for how long were you taking subs?
I was on heroin and methadone for 13 years. I got bored with the heroin and quit, but then had to taper the methadone, which was a pain. Then the withdrawal and PAWS afterwards. It’s not easy, but you can do it if you really want to.
PAWS?
PAWS?...
@@tyreniaking6153 Post Acute Withdrawal Symptoms. The methadone’s out your system, but you suffer the effects of withdrawal still.
@@picolascage5270 Post Acute Withdrawal Symptoms. The methadone’s out your system, but you suffer the effects of withdrawal still.
@@tyreniaking6153 Post acute withdrawal syndrome
Doctor colman you treated me in Virginia, i did wonderful for awhile but had to had 2 laser and one shockwave lithotripsy surgery and took dulidud for months.... I got horrible symptoms and had to go back on a low dose of bupe.... And have had so much chronic problems (chrons disense) and wah wah im back on methadone.... Miserable slave
But it was just back luck with my health , you all were great
Thank you doctor coleman if your the same one from Richmond Va. I was from kentucky
Thanks, Joseph. Yes, this is Dr Coleman of the Coleman Institute in Richmond, VA (and now in 7 other states). Sorry to hear about challenges you have had to contend with. Best wishes!
I think sometimes the intense desire to feel. Normal again after months of post acute wd gets blamed as cravings. As long term recovery addict from opioids I cannot relate to cravings for the drug. In fact I hate the drug but what I do crave is to feel normal energy normal strength normal brain sharpness etc. There is a big difference in definitions
I relate, I’ve been on Dr prescribed opiates for over 20 yrs for chronic pain. I don’t know life without them, I was on a time released one for the last 10 yrs. Only time I had problems is when my pharmacy wouldn’t fill it, or my insurance refused to pay for it. So my dr just switched me to pills not time released, changing my dosage every month. I’ve been through wd many times, it’s hell in hell. I’m slowly lowering the dosage they tell me to take, I’d rather find other ways to deal with my pain then go through this forever. I do smoke pot, it helps a little. I don’t crave it, I don’t get a rush etc at all. I wish I was never put on them, they did give me fentanyl patches years ago. I passed out from it, that scared the hell out of me. I was done with that game, so now I have 3 different milligrams of the MS Contin / morphine . So that’s going to help me get off them, I’m just doing it a couple weeks at a time. I’ll get off them I have no doubt on that, it’s just hard learning the dosage to lower and avoid wd. I too miss my energy and my memory etc, I just forget what life’s like without them. I wish you luck 🙏
@@wshazbot62 agreed - the energy is the hardest to give up!!! I suspect maybe people that don’t get the energy boost, sometimes have an easier time with it than those of us who do; because other substances can also give euphoria, but not the energy boost sometimes
Thanks for your help I’m 27 a father and a husband and it’s not easy going threw this.
You are so welcome! If there are other topics you'd like us to do a video on, please let us know. Best wishes!
Took me 12 days of withdrawal and now I feel great man I feel back to myself man. The I motions you loose are gained and you feel once more.
Threw what?? I've been Through a bit myself, Definitely Threw it Down. 👍🏻 ttl8tr I'm a hit this drive Thru! Welp Ya'll gtg I'm Threw 4 now!😉🤔
👍🏻😂 funnie rite thar Ya'll!
Dang it just threw my hip out. 🤯 there's the garbage truck! 🤯😂👍🏻😅
@@philluphardagain4925
So he misspelled "through" as "threw." This is no reason to make light of the subject matter. There is a polite way to correct a man's misspelling without being rude.
I pray that you have, or will beat this horrible addiction. Speak to a trained medical professional who can help you if you need it. I wish you all the best.
My story started with cancer (2018). After 5 years, I was on 8mg of Dilaudid every 3h. My tolerance and dependence was so high that I had hyperalgesia. Yes, my chronic pain was EXPANDED by that opiate. Not to mention low immunity , edema, no stamina.
THANKS GOD THAT POISON IS PART OF THE PAST
i’m addicted to dilaudid right now. due to my wisdom teeth being impacted it’s been about 1 year and 2 months everyday. if you can talk i’d love to ask you some questions from someone who has went through🤞🏼🫡
Yeah bro. I'm from the UK and I got given heavy pain meds (morphine, hydromorphone) after suffering a stroke which paralysed the right side of my body. Was totally unnecessary to be honest as it was basically always going to be painful doing the physio required to get myself back to a somewhat normal life. I was 7 and by the age of 14 I was using street opiates and was in and out of psychiatric units and detoxes. It's weird because in the UK they're usually very careful about what they prescribe to you....this was in 2001 though so I know it's become more regulated and understood. This video was very interesting!
Yes I’m in the uk as well ruined my life x
Same here Julie, hurts to think what could have been.@@juliewoodhead969
Methadone and benzodiazepine withdrawal, in my "expert" opinion, by far and away possess the most severe and longlasting withdrawal period.
GABAergics like alcohol, benzos, GHB and barbiturates cause the worst physical withdrawal symptoms, it can even kill you. That's not comparable to opioids.
Xanax withdrawal was the worst experience of my life. When I started hallucinating music that wasn't playing and hearing imaginary sirens, I knew shit was about to get nasty
I’ve endured withdrawal of those drugs you mentioned and pretty much every opiate known to man. The worst drug I ever came off of was tramadol. No lie! It was pure torment. No one believes me but it’s true. Methadone sucked but tramadol was a nightmare. I think it must be different for everyone.
I've been addicted to opioids ever since I was introduced to them, first by a doctor which was Tramadol in 2012 and then by a man I met in rehab in 2014, with him I went into Oxy. Where I live, which is not the U.S, we don't really have heroin so there is no "cheaper alternative" to Oxy so getting high has always been extremely expensive. I'm on Suboxone now but I want off that shit as well! I hate that drug and I'll always regret the day I said yes to being put on it in rehab in 2017. I've been an addict since I was a teen and my whole family deals with this disease so I've been using since 14 but never ever has my life gone to so much shit as when I was introduced to Oxy and Benzo's! My life literally got ruined! There is nothing more horrific than the withdrawals from these drugs, but I will say I completely understand why that guy said "it's like getting a hug from God". I haven't gotten that high in years because of my tolerance but I'll never forget the first time I got that high, there is nothing that has ever in my life felt as good. But eventually it destroyed my life. Not worth it no matter how good it felt. I've actually been thinking about the Coleman method to get me off Suboxone but I am so scared of these withdrawals! NOTHING is as horrible!
boy, I can relate to you completely…I’ve been on Norco (from my doctor) for 17 years now & it’s destroyed my life…I just cannot quit them…the WORST withdrawal ever….so very violent for me…I’ve tried Suboxone, but I stopped because my vomiting was uncontrollable….if I had known what opioids do to the brain, I would have never taken them…I think my next step to quit will be either Methadone or the Coleman Institute…but, you ain’t kidding….HORRIFIC withdrawal!!!
p.s….so true about Oxy’s (like a Hug from God)….I buy Oxy’s off the street when my
Norco Rx gets low, and wow, I realllllly love the feeling…..
You just got to jump, stay committed and stay strong. You can beat that drug! I promise you will feel better sooner than later. It's not fun but you just got to accept that you're going to feel bad for a few weeks or so. Don't lose hope you can beat it!
@@venice9405 never ever use replacement drug you can do it I mean it I read a lot here I read about addiction and still I say no one's knows what's heroin is I reached the maximum if I tell you what I do ull go crazy but everything has an end . The most brutal is when I have no choice but to find an iron rod and push it into electricity to get electruded don't dare do that I'm not asking you to try it don't don't it will kill you because I still don't know how I'm alive there is nothing I didn't see I met the devil himself . Fight on it will go
You still here @annalucy89?
“Opium is the drug that lulls every sorrow”. Beautiful quote from Homer’s Odyssey.
It takes so long for your brain to neutralize after coming off. You feel sick for months even when the “physical” is supposed to over in 72 ish hours. It’s a general feeling of unrest and unwell. Skin feels like ants crawling underneath. Legs are restless and it just destroys your ability to sleep.
Honestly this video sounds like it makes the case for opioids not against them. We all know about the tolerance situation but I was on three Norco tens a day for over 20 years and never abuse them and didn’t ever try to get more or move on to street drugs I crushed my hip and pelvis in a fall through a roof. The side effects are so slight that you can’t even tell people are on this drug it helps with mental pain it helps with physical pain it makes you happier, what is the problem? Not everybody pushes it to the extreme with opioids a lot of us just want to have a peace of mind and be pain-free or at least less pain and there’s nothing wrong with helping mental pain as well. My doctor retired and I lost my pain meds all at once it’s been years and I feel terrible I hurt all over, I’ve been on disability because of it for years and now that I have a medical marijuana card a pain clinic won’t even see me in Ohio. It seems the same situation with benzodiazepines. Anything that actually works they don’t want you to have any part of. They want you on mine controlling SSRIs and antidepressants that completely take you out of the game and numb your mind. They are just as hard to get off as any other narcotic. They will shove them down your throat as many as you can eat but if you ask for a Xanax or a pain pill because you have pain or anxiety they treat you like the devil. What’s the point of making anti-anxiety medication when they won’t prescribe it to people with severe anxiety and what’s the point of pain meds that actually kill pain but again will not prescribe them. I am disabled and my whole left side was crushed why can’t I get a pain pill? Literally suffering every single day of my life now. At least they have tried me on 13 different types of antidepressants! Never felt so bad in my life after taking SSRIs. The system is screwed up.
I would be up the creek if I had to depend on an anti-depressant, I absolutely cannot take those things. I've been on pain meds for 20+ yrs and it doesn't appear to be so difficult to get into a pain mgnt here in Ga. But my sister and her husband live in SC down along the coast Beaufort her husband has MS and has excruciating headaches at times and my sister says there are no pain meds to be had there. Disgusting. I would not have had any kind of life without my pain meds.
@@amberlilly4101 they’re taking everyone’s pain meds in Ohio now. I was talking to my neighbor up the road and he was on pain meds and his doctor has retired now as well and they gave him a referral to a pain clinic but when he called the pain clinic to set up the appointment they told him they would not be prescribing opioids they were going to be doing other types of pain management like physical therapy and injections. They are making it to where you can only get opioids for end of life pain. They blame the war on opioids and all of the deaths from them on people who have legitimate prescriptions for their pain but it’s actually all of the fentanyl pouring over our border that is killing everyone. Watch the suicide rates and the accidental overdose rates climb as they crack down more on things as simple as Vicodin that you can’t even get unless you’re dying in Ohio. When I was young I remember going to urgent care with a toothache and getting prescription for 30 Vicodin’s with a refill. Nobody thought anything about it. If you’re having no issues getting yours be glad but be aware because they are cracking down no joke. I never thought I would have to go without mine after 20 years and I’m sitting here doing it now.
I would leave ohio.you can't get anything there.all states aren't like that
I agree with the opioid part. Trying to take the pills away just gave way to fentanyl and now everyone’s dying. And people like you are in pain.
However with benzos I can’t say I agree. The withdrawal from those is absolutely BRUTAL and lasts many months, even years. And they can cause CNS damage. I only took my prescribed dose of benzos and 6 months of my life were gone trying to taper off and I still deal with those withdrawals. And I never abused it either t
@@shadowX9365 Yeah I’ve been on the benzo‘s for years also. I was on 6 mg a day of Xanax at my highest point and I’m down to 2 mg right now. I definitely agree with you about coming off the benzo‘s being hell. Learning more and more about it the lower I get on my dosage. I am hoping and praying I don’t have long crazy protracted withdrawal that last for years. Honestly I do fine on 2 mg and if I could stay there I wouldn’t worry about it but they are cutting back on opioid and benzo prescriptions. It’s just a matter of time and I would rather get off of them in my own time starting now while I still have a script for them instead of on their time and having to come off too quick. I got cut off the first time when I lost my doctor and had major issues then found a psychiatrist but they’re already sounding like they’re wanting to cut back on the 2 mg. I know why tea is filled with horror stories of coming off benzos. I’m hoping I’m the exception to the rule! Lol
Dr. Coleman does it again. Thank you for another much needed video. My favorite part is how memories of opioid use are generally pretty good especially in comparison to alcohol, thus being much harder to not return. Memories I believe are the key in recovery. Remembering who you we're, who you really are naturally. The most positive and powerful memory you can muster can get endorphins moving. Here's to recovery y'all 🙏
Finally a Dr who knows what hes tsking about when it comes to opiates
I got 2 years 6 months with God. I'm going to AA and doing the 12 steps this time. I feel confident that I won't use today! 47 days, working out helps, and Im looking into supplements to offset the damage to my nuerology.
pretty good show.i;m 80/ i quit once for 2 yr 3months. joind na. been popping perks the last few years. trying to taper off again. pretty hard. good luck
i do dope for mental pain not phytsical. my son and some family do drugs so how do i give up my family to prevent temptation. some times i realise legalization and moderation could be better than what we have today. don;t do the first one is the best advice i could ever give you. thanks
I was about to point out that "endorphine" is literally a portmanteau of "endogenous morphine" right when you made the very same point.
I'm usually unimpressed with doctors talking about opioid addiction, but I've subbed to this channel because I've been so impressed with this channel.
Thanks for sharing your feedback, Abigor Anathema. If you have other topics you’d like us to cover, please let us know!
@@thecolemaninstituteforaddi6234 can you kindly talk specifically about Tramadol withdrawal? Am a medical professional was on Tramadol low dose but for about 20yrs...was also on pregabalin for the past 5yrs, I suffer with chronic upper back pain, am now on methadone for 1yr now on 20mg/2mls per day, it takes away the back pain, I don't crave tramadol I haven't taken it for all the time I ve been on methodone which is 1yr now, and even if I miss taking methadone I don't think of tramadol, but I do take pregabalin when I don't get methadone so as to manage the pain and withdrawal, I d also take something for sleep, for nausea that's if I don't take methadone even for a day .. because the fatigue, pain, nausea, etc gets really bad that I cant even function. My question is if I start exercising will the withdrawals go away? Need to stop methadone because it's really difficult to travel everyday to the centre it's expensive too on transport that is...I need to start reducing methadone until I stop completely, but what else can I do so I don't withdrawal on methadone as well?..am willing to do anything so I can start seeing patients again...I have no energy, it was tramadol that helped me for 20yrs to attend patients as it took away pain and fatigue... please help
I’ve been on pain meds for over ten years, fist was percs then was OxyContin 40mg 3 times a day with break thru meds then I lost my insurance so the doctors put me on methadone. When I got my insurance back the war on drugs started then I was on opana but then my new dr. Started me on Fentanyl 100 mcg every 48 hours and dilaudid for break through. I never used more then what was prescribed nor did I get high from anything but now I’ve worked up such a tolerance for the Fentanyl that I start getting hot and cold sweats around the 40th hour, if only the dr kept me on the oxy that worked great for me I wouldn’t be going through this hell. All because the war on drugs is failing and now I suffer along with many others.
Thank you for sharing your story, Tracy. Very sorry to hear about your experience. Best wishes!
I'm in a virtually identical situation.....
@thecolemaninstituteforaddi6234 The guy that got pulled over and was relieved it was over, was his name Mike Mccoy?
I have 3 people I know who suffered severe pain, had their doctors wean them off so they ended up suffering horrible pain. WELL they found a way to END their pain permanently....but I'm so sad to have my friends take the easy way out...do I blame them? NOPE....the war on drugs....is only hurting those of us who suffer chronic pain...I've promised I will NOT take easy way out....but then again I might be a liar!
wait.....its 5 people I know who've died from lack of their pain not being managed properly....sheeeze, hard to count when I'm in so much efffing pain!
Keep going. One day at a time
I'm severely disabled and have been since i was a little kid.
I just dealt with the horrible pain and stress up until i got around the age of 35.
Well of course i knew about pain medication so i went to several doctors and they all got defensive about it.
I was running my self ragged trying to get pain medication legitimately.
What really pissed me off was i knew quite a few people getting pain medication for injuries that didnt require such pain medication.
Like hydrocodone 10s for a stubbed toe.
Or a bicycle wreck that sprained someone's ankle...Oxytocin 20s
Then there's me...
I was shot on accident by my dad when I was 4, it went in my stomach at high downward angle it took out 1 of my kidneys put a hole through my liver and the bullet got lodged in my spine.
Well it came to rest 8n a bundle of nerves that controls my bladder, bowels and it crippled my right leg.
Well needless to say my body functions isn't automatic like a normal person, i have to cath and ill spare you the horrible details of my bowels..
Well my right leg was 90% paralyzed and when I was 5 they fitted me with a brace.
It was the exact same braces that forest gump had on.
Well in a bad turn of events the shop who made my brace did something wrong in the measurements and the shoe connected to the brace caused a horrible wound to appear on my paralyzed foot,
Well i couldn't feel it and this massive wound got gangrene no matter how much my mom cleaned it, well long story short they ended up amputating my leg-off up above the knee.
So i walked on crutches from 7 years old till 17.
Then i got a prothstisis i wore it till my early 30s but it caused me to have open sores that would never heal become of the way the leg anchored.
I had a big almost inch deep gash under the right of my nutsac where the leg was up to my inner thigh, and it also kept busting my stump open.
So it got so bad my doctor said Tom i hate to say this to you but if you don't quit wearing the fake leg we're eventually gonna have to amputate the rest of your remaining right stump off up to you pelvis.
So i was like fuck that,
So ive been walking on one crutch the most part of 30 years.
My arms are fucked up from the crutches, tendons are torn ive had some horrendous falls and still got that bullet in my back that hurts like hell, i have phantom pain that are devastating.
So you can imagine my frustration when i got to these damn doctors and they see me they see my chart and still tell me no!!!
So many doctor's havr told me know i had no choice but to take advil which doesn’t do jackshit really.
Well now im borderline kidney dialysis from taking nsaids all my life for pain because these heatless doctors wouldn't help me legitimately by prescribing some pain medication without all that extra bullshit mixed in the pain medication, like oxy, morphine, ect.
So ive been fucked all the way around by self righteous doctors who dont give 2 hoots in hell about people who really need and is a prime candidate for pain management..
No only thing they care about is what insurance you got and how much money they can make.
Wow! I can’t even imagine what all you have been through. It does seem like the people who really need it for pain can’t get any meds to help with the pain. In my experience, when I didn’t really need pain killers, I’d get them prescribed and the times I felt like I really did need them, they wouldn’t prescribe. The US created a monster in the 90’s when oxy came out and they used it for any little thing that a couple pills of Tylenol could have been therapeutic but instead they started pushing Drs to write these scripts for oxy saying, “it was a miracle drug with NO side effects.” After that, they started opening pain clinics and urging Doctors to write even more scripts because peoples tolerance went up and their lower current dose needed to be increased to be effective with, lstill no side effects.” Fast forward 10-15 years later the truth comes out of how dangerous and additive these drugs really were and cracked down on Dr’s for writting opioid medications. Because of that demand for them went up as well as the prices, so people switch to heroin because it was much cheaper, stronger and flooded everywhere. Now that the monster was created, it got out of hand so fast and snow balled that there’s very little chance of, putting the monster back in the cage.” Now that my books finished and you have read my comment thus far, I thank you and those that wish to comment on this with their own thoughts is encouraged. :)))
Why don’t you write a book 😂😂😂
Hi I read your comment and was moved to tears ... I thought my addiction was worst thing that could ever happen but after reading your comment I realized how strong willed you are ... PS opioid will make your life worst so please stay away from it
@@ameliamartins5705 thank you
@@richardpedley6291 Your welcome ... I pray life gets better for all of us
What do you do if you are a chronic pain patient and every time u have a period of time of not using ur prescription opioids of 2 weeks or more and u find ur physical pain level is such that it makes it difficult too function without ur opioid prescriptions?
I agree, they don’t care. I lost my pain meds after over 20 years of being on them now I can’t hardly leave the house.
@@clasmaster1471 ur right. They don’t seem too care, I have been on my opioids for 10 years and with the storage of mds now iam having trouble getting my prescribed md
If I become unable too get my opioid prescription for my chronic pain because of shortage of mds now, I may have to relay on kratom and CBD and THC which I have had to relay on before. It requires high doses of CBD and moderate amounts of kratom in liquid form and the CBD in liquid or chews.
Riddle me this:
I've been taking a relatively high dose oxycodone for chronic pain (so I'm told - 120mg/day) for approximately 30 years and I've always feared withdrawals - mostly because of all that I've heard and in films like Trainspotting. However ... I DO run short on occasion and from time to time I'll have to go 2-3 full days with nothing. Here's what I notice: I don't get cravings - like where it's all you can think of. I don't buy anything elsewhere. I just make way to tuck in for a couple of days and so far, honestly I haven't encountered ANY really bad symptoms like nausea, vomiting, shitting etc. I DO become extremely weak and my motivation to do ANYTHING goes right out the window. Other than that it's almost as if I don't withdraw at all and I've never been given a decent reason why - my doctor and pharmacist simply shrug and say "fortunate."
Can you give me any possible reasons for this lucky break? I should add that I take them specifically for pain and not to get high. In fact I can't even see how anyone DOES get buzzed on the stuff - because it does nothing mind-altering for me. Could it be because of that? No cravings because there's no feeling to chase? Could it be the I don't metabolize OC very well and am therefore on a much lower dose than I'm getting? To that end, it doesn't really kill the pain as much as I'd like and that is why I run short occasionally ?? I'd like to hear the ideas of an addiction Dr. I'm not denying that I DO have an addictive personality. I had to quit alcohol 25 years ago because I liked it TOO much, but that went successfully, as did the cigarette habit that went away later that same year.
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Hi trust me you are the lukyest person in the world to not get eny withdrals i was adicted to heroin and metherdon for over 33 years and trust me withdreasls are brutal i withrewed for over 7or8 months 24hour a day you dont sleep pluss you carnt control your arms or legs and the hangsyety i was awake for 4 weeks i was luky i got a dr to give me sleeping pills thing is wen your sleep deprived like that you feal like your looseing the plot with metherdon it takes months to get off it has such a relly long halth life i trewly do wish you good luck all the best from scotland
Is your oxycodone immediate release, or extended release (like OxyContin)? If you take extended release formulations, the entire timeline of withdrawal takes longer. They begin, peak, and dissipate days longer in time at each stage than immediate release
@@williamguy88 Immediate.
120mg a day isn't all that high, a lot of heroin users would be doing what is equivalent to at least 4x times that dose in a day. and like you say you're not abusing them, and clearly aren't even succeptible to addiction since you dont even get buzzed off them. you have a physical dependence which is significant but no mental addiction which is what drives a user nuts in withdrawal... it's like heart ache, you are in love with the feeling and can't stop chasing. the mental aspect of withdrawal an addict experiences make the physical aspects beyond unbearable.. it's like completely falling apart in every way
Kratom stops opioid withdrawal and is sold in grams, not milligrams, so it is much easier to taper. A slow kratom taper over a month or two with Agmatine Sulfate (which reduces tolerance), followed by an antidepressant like Wellbutrin along with D-Phenylalanine (which inhibits the enzyme that degrades endorphins) makes it easy to walk away from an opioid addiction. Why don't they do this?
Money. Money. Money.
I so agree with you. I am a lost opiate addict. I have been for years after my Fibromyalgia diagnoses. I quit 5 years ago, however, it only lasted about 7 months. Been back on since and it just gets worse. To a point where you feel you're dying...💔. I am scared every day😭
I’m right there with you…I’ve been on Norco for 17 years & I just can’t quit them…my withdrawal is just too violent…I have a problem & I curse Kaiser Permanente for giving me these pain pills 17 years ago…I need them now just to properly function…I will pray for you🙏🌸
@@venice9405...so sorry. I totally understand. I feel the same. Thank you for the prayers. I'll be praying for you too.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Tamera. You're definitely not alone. Best wishes.
I understand your struggle! I’m documenting my methadone detox and holy cow! I think they should be used acutely and never for long term pain management. I’ve been diagnosed with S.L.E. and prescribed heavy daily dose (160mgs) for 20 years. I’m now off of methadone completely for 9-10 months. IT CAN BE DONE!! It sucks but if you want it enough you’ll be ready to and then experience the most beautiful things!!! I’m sorry you all may be going through this!!! If you want to talk please lmk. Positive vibes, love and blessings!!!💪🙏✌️❤️
@@tameramares5785 how are you doing lately? I’m curious and trying to bring awareness to the opioid epidemic. Healing vibes your way!!!✌️❤️
I lost my wife of 10yrs to a Fentonyl overdose ! Been on suboxone for 5 months now. It helps but I'm still depressed 😔
OK doctor....IF you can lower my chronic pain, cure my Ehlers-Danlos, broken Leg, 2 failed rotator cuff surgeries, 1 failed knee surgery, both arms have Popeye from the bicep muscle falling off the shoulder bone and bunching up into hard knot....damaged nerve from a bile duct surgery AND failed spinal surgery....then take my drugs away BUT you must transfer MY pain onto yourself, see how it feels to go without meds....and oh....this is only a few things I'm suffering from, but I'm sure your eyes began glazing over...I'm tempted to start growing my own puppies or move to Afghanistan....my pain is wicked bad for decades....and oh, the headon collision with a drunk 20 yrs ago changed everything.,,,,I'm SICK of hearing from misinformed people to take CBD oil for my pain....are you EFFING kidding me?
Snorting Garlic flavored Olive Oil works better than CBD oil. I've lost 2 friends from suicide due to their chronic pain being unmanaged.
I hear you. Some of these doctors talk like we are taking pain meds for the fun of it. Even if you have an understanding doctor, the pharmacists give you a hard time. Now the DEA is cracking down on the pharmacies and throttling the amount they can order. Last month on my fill date Walgreens was completely out of pain meds and didn't expect an order for TWO WEEKS.
The truly infuriating part is that we legitimate pain patients who need this medicine to function are treated like addicts while the government allows illegal fentanyl to pour over the border.
I am 75. My body is not going to heal. The failed implants are not going to suddenly start working. The arthritis is not going away. I will never get another surgery that only causes more scarring, less mobility, and more pain. I am a Christian. I trust God. But sometimes the medication is how He helps us to keep going. I know a lot of people who have ended it all because the pain was more than they could bear. It's a horrible thing for surviving loved ones. I'm not going to do that to my family.
I am so tired of having to drag myself to the pain management doctor every 4 weeks because they can't give you a refill. The added stress of not knowing if I will be able to get the medication is raising my blood pressure so now there's one more thing causing me anxiety.
I cold turkeyed off this crap 11 years ago. I tried every including prednisone which caused a 40 lb weight gain. You're right about CBD: useless. Now I'm hearing about kratom. Really? Honestly, I'm afraid of it.
Welp, time to get ready for the PM appointment. The doctors are very nice, but the government is trying to take prescription treatment out of their hands. I will pray for you.
He is talking to the people who are taking pain meds and can get by without it. Obviously not those who can’t.
I like how you put that. To transfer your pain to the Dr , so he can understand how you feel. Every day i wake up and some days i cry. I think How am i going to get through another day hurting. I take my pain med and wait for it to work so i can get up and get a shower. Id love for anyone that says that ppl shouldn't take pain meds, to do cbd listen to music meditation and so on, to feel like i do for one week without pain meds. Maybe they can take a small sharp pebble and put one in each shoe so every time they step down it hurts like hell. Go to work like that and be on your feet all day. Then when you take those sharp pebbles out of your shoe , it dont hurt to walk anymore. WHAT A RELIEF?? Well thats what pain meds are for chronic pain patients . We need relief we deserve to the help. Im tired of the stigma . Yeah if i stop my meds ill go through withdrawals. Ill get help . But untill this pain is down 50% ill take them. One of the problems with drs cutting off pain meds is the ppl go to the streets and get them. They can get ones laced with fyntinol and die. Or they can take more than they should because they dont have to drop for the pain dr every month , so why not? DRS cutting back too much or cutting pain patients off because they are scared of the cdc is one of the problems pain patients that are monitored by pain drs every month usually stick to the rules so not to be cut off. But tey still get punished and cut off of cut back too much or too fast Just because the government and cdc put all the statistics in one category. Opoid deaths. Over dose. From drinking with them orbuying off streets laced = all ppl and chronic pain patients cut off cut back. FK them all. They will find them on the streets, so why not take care of your pain patients for what they deserve. Pain relief so hey can have a decent life.
@@BS-dq1kznot true. They put us and all ppl taking them in the same category. Unless you, yourself have been a chronic pain patient , then you do NOT know. We ALL get treated like addicts. If im wrong.Then tell your pain management story. Im thinking you don't have one.
@@AngelinaX23i dont feel high on them but i do get pain relief.
Prescribing opiates has been the lowest since it’s ever been. But the overdose rate is the highest. It’s ever been. We been using opiates for thousands of years. Opiates are not the problem. Fentanyl is the problem. From the border.
I have quit trying to kick my heroin habit without "medicated assistance" and i am now on my 16th year of methadone and recon i will be on it till i die from old age. Quality of life is non existant when all you can think about is to stay clean for one more day, one more hour, one more minute... F**k it, i have a job now that i am able to keep BECAUSE i`m not busy craving. I have a great woman who accepts my occasional limp methadone-dick, a little blue pill fixes that problem when it occurs and i have normal friends and hobbies. And to those who say that "you`re not REALLY clean on methadone" i say screw you, it`s my life not yours
Doesn’t matter if it’s your life what they r saying is true. Your on LIQUID HANDCUFFS methadone withdrawl long term is worse then heroin. And for me was worse even then fetti
Please try to quit . I was on methadone for 12 years . I quit cold turkey n it took me 16 days to feel normal again but I GOT MY LIFE BACK
@@Dumperr41416 days...should more like 6months
This is a very good video. I had a shocking unbearable unexpected withdrawal after just 3.5 days on oxycodone for shoulder surgery. I had had a minor episode years before coming off a short term perocet use post surgery - remember thinking wow if this got worse it would be devastating. It was - within a half hour there was no way I was waiting to hear back from my doctors office and ended up taking one pill - whatever it took to make it go away. I knew the risk of taking more when not in pain - it worked. We think my episode was due to reduced kidney functioning which created a higher level than normal in my body.
It left me interested in the topic of - are doing enough to put the fear of God into potential users - scare the crap out of them - I think too many think oh you might get addicted then you get help no big deal. I think more prevention could happen if people know there is no way in hell you ever want anything to do with withdrawal. Addiction is not the worst bad, you need to be very afraid of withdrawal, and the opiates are the worst.
I have ckd stage 3 . Been on opioids for decade for pain .hey NSAIDS make our kidneys worse. So what the hell do we take for pain. I agree withdrawal is the worst. Why can't we just stay on instead of living in chronic pain?
As being a opium addict I've been in and out of rehabs from my experience alcohol is by far the worse addiction and the cold turkey by far is the worst
Alcohol withdrawals are deadlier. Not nearly as painful though. I mean, if you want to go down that road, then a strong benzo or barb addiction would be "the worst addiction" but that's not my experience. Like, seizures can kill you and you simply cannot cold turkey tranquilizers or anticonvulsants including alcohol, but I'd rather go through alcohol detox than methadone detox if I had to pick.
Also, worth pointing out, it's not about what "the worst" addiction is. Like, it isn't a contest. End of the day, every withdrawal syndrome sucks and no one is handing out medals for enduring "the worst one."
Blackhatter I would have to agree.
Wanted to remind that Kratom can be useful to taper off other opiates. worked a treat for me
Yes but then you can end up like me addicted to it for 8 years. Im 2 days in and the withdrawals are just as bad as any other opioid. RLS, aches and pains etc.
@@JonKonik11 Thank you for speaking up. I should be more careful. In case it might help... This is what I asked ChatGPT to do and her response:
I want to taper off Kratom. I am taking 4grams 5 times a day. I would like to taper off to zero within 4 weeks. Please send me a table format
ChatGPT
Here's an example of a tapering schedule for kratom, based on the information you provided:
Week 1:
Day 1-2: 3.5g, 5x/day
Day 3-4: 3g, 5x/day
Day 5-7: 2.5g, 5x/day
Week 2:
Day 8-9: 2g, 5x/day
Day 10-11: 1.5g, 5x/day
Day 12-14: 1g, 5x/day
Week 3:
Day 15-16: 0.75g, 5x/day
Day 17-18: 0.5g, 5x/day
Day 19-21: 0.25g, 5x/day
Week 4:
Day 22-23: 0.125g, 5x/day
Day 24-25: 0.125g, 4x/day
Day 26-27: 0.125g, 3x/day
Day 28: 0.125g, 2x/day
Note: This is just an example and may not be suitable for everyone. It's important to talk to a healthcare professional before starting a tapering schedule, as they can provide personalized guidance and support. Additionally, listen to your body and adjust the tapering schedule as necessary.
Nostromo: Ian...I have empathy for you. I know what wds feel like. If I can help in any way let me know. For what it is worth I would never go Cold Turkey again. Find the minimium dose that works and go from there. I got much more help from ChatGPT than just the schedule. OpenAI.com is the webpage
@@JonKonik11 How are you doing? If you put up a temporary email we can get connected. I'm nobody, no expert but I would help as much as possible. Don't have to go it alone
Lots of talk about how bad they are but what do people with chronic pain do. Been using 10/325 hydrocodone for years and would like to stop but the pain wins after about 24 hours. Taking 3 to 4 pills a day through my pain management doctor.
Is there an agonist replacement that won’t effect gut motility?
Oh I wish! Subs make my gut slow to a complete halt. It’s awful!
You all seem quite on top of this issue…are you familiar with something called ‘Tapentadol?’ I can’t find too much on it, but it’s quite insidious.
Im on 130mg of methadone.
And have been for addicted to morphine since i was 15, and at around the age of 30 i changed over to methadone.
I still have hope ill stop one day. Or am i fooling myself?
It doesn’t matter if you’re on 100 mg or 2 mg unfortunately you just need to decide if you want to come off everyone is scared of the withdrawal affects however it doesn’t last forever and it can take years to get your mental health back on normal, you can do it 🙏
Very well explained. So does this imply that "antidepressants" are not going to help as much?
I was told that I had chronic pancreatitis and poot on palliative hospice and for 8 years given 125 Micah g of fentanyl and for 30 mg morphine sulfate a day and now I am off of these medications with the second opinion from a professor of medicine and I don't know how I'm going to get through this 114 lb I'm on 2 mg of ibuprofen 2 times a day how long will this nightmare last?
It’s like fighting the devil physical
I am on day 3
It’s the type of pain u wouldn’t wish to ur worst enemy
FYI
first switch to kratom
Then switch to only stem vein
Taper as much as comfortable
Then
Mega dose vit c
Over 3days increase tolerance to high doses of it while still on kratom
4th day stop kratom
On that day take as much as 5grams every two hours in juice
You can do this up to 80grams per day
Do that for 3 to 4 days while getting plenty of protein
Then when ready taper off the vit c
I also used niacin and NAC for anxiety and cravings.
I got off it. U can too.
The rest is-all in your head.
That's absolutely what I did - except that I wasn't addicted to opiates first (just got addicted to Kratom). I thought the vitamin C was a joke, until on the third day after my first half teaspoon I had no withdrawals (after the vit c loading phase of 5,000 mg every 3 hrs)
@@darlamckinnon4546Really?! Vitamin C helps withdrawals?
I’m documenting my methadone detox and I don’t know about methadone being used as an assist with other drugs. It comes with its own “stuff.” There is hope!!!💪💪💪✌️❤️
How did id go ?
@@anon681 AWESOME! I can feel….it’s not been easy, but 1 million times better than I could have imagined while on methadone. May I ask how you are doing? I appreciate you asking. Lmk how things are going. Positive vibes, love and prayers. 💪💪💪💪💪💪✌️✌️✌️✌️❤️
@@FitzSchlitz I'm on methadone rn 10-20mg daily tapering my 500mg daily oxy addiction rn :) how's it going?
@@brookroddy8106 going well. I’m almost 2 years methadone free. How are they tapering you down? Healing vibrations!!💪💪💪💪💪✌️✌️✌️❤️
Hows it going m8 ya still doing ok i spoke to you a few months ago im the one who did my own detox and mouved from england to scotland im still clean and im doing relly well hope its the same for you m8 all the best my frend
Very informative!! Thank you!!!!
Can i ask? If the person is a drug addict for so many yrs like heroin opioids all drugs. Does this person can change? If they never undergo to detox and therapist? Pls help i need an advice. Thank you
Yes you can sweetheart but you have to fight its will go but you have to fight offcourse you can change you weren't born with it yes you can yes you will go through hell I'm sorry to tell you but I swear it you can you can
Are you ok it will go I've seen hell 13 years of heroin addiction I can afford it then I went down as I said you were not born with it cross three days and start you can do it please talk
Clean up okay ill keep comingafter you till u do
We are in 2023 live your life life is beautiful dont choose or go where we went i cant talk about it may god help you
And what's worse than opiates, suboxone and methadone
Opioids ≠ opiates.
Dude....I am from Slovenia.Country you never heard of.
You are the first "on line"doctor who kinda understand opoid addiction.
I just disagree about alcohol....It's the same thing.Once you play with your brain it's over.
Off methadone almost 4 years did it for a week and I am going to bad withdrawals I feel so stupid that was the hardest drug to get off of I almost went crazy I can't believe I had forgotten😢
when detoxing from opioids on a stepdown process, does the withdrawal get easier?
I can withstand a majority of the oxycodone symptoms but the most overwhelming symptom is insomnia. I've tried melatonin and it worked at first with 20mg a night but now it doesn't work at all. Any other more adequate /effective solution to not sleeping?
Kratom
I slept for over an hour yesterday evening! 5 days with no sleep. I was begging for 5 minutes sleep but it was over an hour!
Imagine being grateful for one hour of sleep...
I'm hoping I get the same or more today.
Im on day 10 finally slept 8 hours. Embrace the suck you can win the battle!@@strangelee4400
Take Vit D a lot and Calcium and Magnesium Vit C tons of water. The Opiates have destroyed all your vitamin stores.@@strangelee4400
i disagree, benzodiazapines are sooo much worse
Yeah man they are.
Dr.Coleman wish you were in Northern Maine ❤
Couple of days aches and pains and you be fine. Dont focus your energy on withdrawal and disregard the horror stories.
Kinda sounds like you don’t really know what you’re talking about there champ 🫠
@@hayleybloxham-parker8068 You’re cute, “champ”.
YOU need to find chronic pain suffers another alternative ...You have information for drug addicts and none for elderly suffering from chronic pain...Get .
Can one OD on suboxone while tapering to a low dose? Thank you.
please give answer my arm vein collapse with i v drug after 6 years ago. please tell me for recover my vein and its bad efffects on my arm and body
You cannot sleep sir smh that's why it's hell because it won't let you sleep if you do fall asleep it's only for like 15min and you body jurks waking you back up and guess what you feel even worst don't you think it wouldn't be as hard to quit if you could atleast sleep shit YOU CAN'T NOTHING HELPS ITS PURE HELL 😢😢
The dopamkne hypothesis can not explain why benzos, GHB and barbiturates are among the most addictive substances out there
Actually yes it does those drugs work on the dopamine receptors oh a different way. I don’t understand the Neuroscience but there are articles
Doc is tapentadol stronger then oxcy??
What are the benefits and differences between each MAT? How would they know which one is best for that patient there working with?
I would love to know where he got these bogus stats. And some of us actually need these.There is no way these are worse then heroin or even alcohol
I just want to get off Suboxon. My pain doctor like everyone I have seen since my back fusion are great in prescribing it but to help me get off of it they don’t know how or want to! I think it’s malpractice that I have to even think about getting off it myself! Because I have tried and I kept going into withdrawals! Which is not very much fun! But he just says you just have to go without for a few days and see what happens?! That is just BS! So what can I do? I’m feeling kind of lost out here,
Very helpful
Thatn you for your information
You’re very welcome!
Opiates should only be prescribed for short term surgical procedures and terminal cancer patients. Opiates, particularly fentanyl are the absolute worst thing you could ever do to yourself especially long term.
good advice 🤩
Never ever touch heroin never do that
Never ever invite the devil .heroin
Drugs are not about joy that’s what people don’t know before using them
Help! With the current shortage of Suboxone I can only get Subatex, can I substitute suboxone with subatex???? Pleease o need an answer asap
Did you find an answer? I believe you can switch
@@Killmaisy thanks, I have no option I have to have my meds, so pse hold thumbs
@@michelleduplooymalherbe2837
Yeah, no sweat. You'll prolly like txt better
@@t8r507 THANKS ALL WORKED OUT OK AND IT IS BETTER YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!
@@Killmaisy EVERRYTHING WORKED OUT FINE THNKS FOR YOUR CONCERN
I'm on vacation and I'm withdrawaling and it sucks
Been there and done that! It’s horrible!
I so wish I could be clean again I truly wish I could but I half to have surgery and don't want to don't want to be worse off if it don't work God plez heel me
Terminally ill cancer patients and life threatening traumatic injuries are reasons why opioids are needed in medicine! Would you let a surgeon operate on you without anesthesia?
How too get off suboxon
Not sure medical literature would support opiate addiction worse than meth addiction
I have a very important question. Will my boyfriends subs transfer to me through semen and sweet when I stay with him on the weekends? Bc it's Tuesday and I feel like I'm going through withdrawal
I fucking feel like I'd sell my kidneys to get some money for Tramadol. O can't get myself to do shit.
Are you trying to encourage relapse by saying those things. Instead of helping to overcome the withdrawal u're indirectly demoralising the recovering patients or those thinking to quit
Who are you responding to?
idk what about Xanax those aren't even fun
Still not worse than alcohol. Imo
They are not like hug from god doc they are like kiss and drug from god directly that euphoria ❤ u kno that feeling heaven and hell on earth
Naloxone did NOTHING for me
Why aren’t u talking about megadoses of vitamin c???? It works!
Why can I satay on opioids all my life. I’ve became a Dr on methadone since 1980. Nobody knows and I feel good. Legalize methadone
What ?
He must assume everyone is in agony. Opiates do nothing for a normal healthy person except lower there endorphins. Then slowly over months do they give you relief.....minor euphoria
Xanax is the worst hands down gone off methdone and Fentanyl patch,but that was a walk in the park compared to go off Xanax .1,2 month off then your just started the hard time that can last upp to many years 😢😢😢😢😢yeah Years
Yes. Opioids are the worst.
I think benzodiazepine are worse. I’ve wanted to die everyday 6 years now withdrawals still going
Just say you are not ready to quit that's all I know it's hell let me tell you heroin addiction is worst on earth
Maybe the withdrawal not the psychological addiction . Benzo's ain't touching opioides in anyway in terms of feeling good .
It's true you'll never know how strong you are until being strong are ur only option
Your okay it's physcological
Benzo’s are much worse
Xanax is way worse
They are. I was hooked for 3 years and it took 12 days to feel better clean for over 2 months now easy dayz ahead.
Congratulations on pushing through and making the 2-month mark! Best wishes.
Im addicted to morphine. Im really struggling to get off it. I keep reducing then going back up.